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Episode 4051: Dem’s Anti-Trump Battle plan Exposed; Censorship Warfare Intensifies
Episode 4051: Dem’s Anti-Trump Battle plan Exposed; Censorship Warfare Intensifies ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Natalie Winters
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people.
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Stephen K. Bannon
A conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Mike Benz
War Room here's your host, Stephen K.
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Natalie Winters
Ban.
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Philip Patrick
For your reaction. Wall Street Journal just dropped a story under this headline. Quote, trump draft executive order would create board to purge generals. The panel could abandon the military review process and raise concern about the politicization of the military. Quote, the Trump transition team is considering a draft executive order that establishes a warrior board of retired senior military personnel with the power to review three and four star officers and to recommend removals of any deemed unfit for leadership. If Trump approves the order, it could fast track the removal of generals and admirals found to be lacking in requisite leadership qualities, according to a draft of the order reviewed by the Wall Street Journal. But it could also create a chilling effect on top military officers, given the passed vow to fire woke generals referring to officers seen as promoting diversity in the ranks at the expense of military readiness.
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Natalie Winters
So it looks like President Trump is going to get his own generals after all. Yeah, you can suck on that. Atlantic and msnbc. You're in the War room. It's Natalie Winters Hosting today, Tuesday, November 12, just one week after history was made in the year of our Lord 2024. Got a packed show for you. My Benz is going to be joining us later on, but we are going to go behind enemy lines. Yes, that's right. I said it. The enemy within. We're going to flesh out the contours of what is shaping up to be the resistance 2.0 that is coming after Donald Trump already. I'm not just talking about the Rhino senators that are just a stone's throw away from me. You know, they always love to say that we can't just love our country only when we win, right? Well, how about this? You can't destroy this country. Invade it, loot it, pillage it, absolutely. Tank it and get away with it. That's going to be the new mantra, right? Moving forward and no amount of Soros funded, Das or weird woke perversions of what criminal justice means. Is it going to change what the punishment is, and rightfully so, for treason. And I'm looking at you, Mark, Millie, but I'm sure there's a pretty deep bench of people just like you. It'll be interesting to watch them rat each other out. But here's the thing, right? We sat here and I know Steve and I told you that you're going to see a chorus of voices in the same way that the Atlantic tried to tell you that, oh, we need a pandemic amnesty. It was just a mistake. It was the fog of war. You're going to see that same type of refrain coming from all of these people, the ones who are, I don't know, being advised to leave the country. Yeah, those people saying that. Oh, the deep state, the weaponization of government. No, no, it's actually a good idea. Don't persecute. Don't prosecute us for that. Well, the day has come because the Atlantic and all their genius put up a story today. There really is a deep state. That's the headline, and I want to read a synopsis. Again, this isn't war room. This is the Atlantic. The railhead of the globalist propaganda regime operating within the federal health agencies is an actual deep state, albeit a much more benign and rational one than what Trump has talked about. Whether you know it or not, you've likely seen this deep state in action, full stop. Yeah, I've seen this deep state in action, and I'm not just talking about COVID For the four months that I had to sit in this chair, this audience has seen the deep state in action. Right, but thank you, Atlantic, for explaining this to us. I'll keep going because it only gets more maddening. It was the reason Trump's preferred treatment for Covid during the early phases of the pandemic. Hydroxychloroquine was not flooding pharmacies, and it was why Covid vaccines were not rushed out before the 2020 president. Both of those efforts were stopped by civil servants, despite overt pressure from Trump and officials in his administration. Public health officials didn't buck Trump to sabotage him. They did so because both measures were scientifically unsolid. Well, I'm glad the Atlantic has finally admitted that the deep state exists, because I don't know about you, I only heard for years this show get dragged through the mud and be titled the number one spreader of misinformation for making those exact same claims. Names about COVID And I'm not even adjudicating in the post game analysis world where we were also right on the origins of COVID 19 too. But right, what you're seeing develop is essentially, we'll use an intel term, a limited hangout for the deep state. In other words, the deep state is benevolent, the deep state is kind. We need the deep state in order to keep the crazies in check. Right? Again, I'd go a step further. The deep state didn't just try to meddle their hand in post pandemic prevention. No, no, no. You guys caused and created the pandemic. I'm looking at you, Anthony Fauci, who by the way, it's been awfully quiet lately. I've never seen him miss an opportunity to give his analysis that absolutely no one asked for. Right. There's never a microphone that he won't run to. Haven't seen him giving any post election analysis. But here's why this is scary in my opinion, because this deep state, the permanent political class, the in your face state, whatever you want to call it, they're very much like, shall we say, a hydra in the sense that when you chop off ahead, and I think we chopped off ahead metaphorically on November 5th, just a week ago, it only grows back and multiplies, right? You get two more and in this case you're getting civil society and the guardrails of democracy. Now, to the whole guardrails of democracy crowd, I'd ask you, you want to know what an actual guardrail of democracy looks like? A wall on the southern border. Where were all of you guys when this country was being invaded? Here's a pro tip. When you guys are having your post game analysis, trying to understand your autopsy of why you guys lost the election, it's really this simple. You guys hate America and the American people know it. But I digress on that. They're not even really traitors in the sense that if you line them up, you do the columns of what they've done to help this country versus what they've done to help other countries. I think you basically have a zeroed out on the pro America stuff, evidenced of course by their aversion to anything that's America first. But these people are effectively foreign agents, right? I mean, the policies that they've put out, whether it's the southern border, the endless forever wars, immigration, you name it, basically are as much. I think if Xi Jinping were writing the executive orders, I'm not sure he would have changed much coming out of the Biden regime. Right. But here's the crazier part and here's where we're really going to get into strategy, which is so imperative for this audience to be ahead of the curve because you guys are the tip of the spear in fighting back, being the counter resistance. Because you know all too well these hack Republicans we have up on Capitol Hill aren't going to do anything to help us. You guys maybe remember Rosa Brooks of Transition Integrity Project Infamy? She founded it and she's back with a vengeance. These people just won't go away. But they held the war games, simulating a Trump victory, a Trump loss, a Trump administration. She has a new piece out today, and I want to read you what is a very important line that will dictate arguably the next four years of your life. The opening salvo, like I said, of the Resistance 2.0. Our exercises suggested that the best means of pushing back against autocratic Trump administration actions lie in the realm of politics and culture. They don't want to put it through the courts because they don't think that the Supreme Court necessarily has their back. Reading further into her piece, we can, for instance, find ways to throw sand in the gears whenever possible. Patriotic civil servants and military personnel faced with ethically problematic directives can raise questions. Insist on legal reviews, demand greater clarity, ask for more process. She goes on, saying that these Democratic donors need to create even larger, vaster dark money networks to prop up and defend the forthcoming wave of whistleblowers. We know that's always been their predetermined and beloved tactic of ways to subvert the Trump administration shouldn't be lost on anyone. That just a few months ago the Office of Legal Counsel or special counsel rather reworked the guidelines when it comes to whistleblowers. Right. They might not have taken the House, though there are some still active races going on. But I'm sure they'll try to flip the margins. Mark Elias is tweeting up a storm today trying to flip races so they can't legally impeach him right through traditional levers of power, but they will wage a full scale shadow impeachment warfare campaign. Right? Because the object of impeachment, the goal, the objective isn't even really the impeachment articles or the Senate trial. It's to demean and to throw, as they say, sand in the gears, deny and stop the momentum that the Trump MAGA movement has built. So they'll kneecap him any way they can. And their preferred tactic, it's a word you hear Rachel Maddow saying a heck of a lot, and it's something that Steve and I have been drilling down on is this idea of civil society and protests. We're going to get into Norm Eisen later because he has some brilliant, as you could just imagine, I'd say evil genius, but I don't think he's a genius, just evil ideas how to further subvert American democr. But here's the thing, right? If they don't have the traditional levers of power here in the United States to go after President Trump, they will outsource, as they always do, their subversion and their attacks against President Trump to the global stage. More precisely, the globalist stage. I want to read a couple of recent headlines for you guys. On the same exact day that President Trump won overwhelmingly, might I add, to rub it in, the WHO put up an article, WHO study lists top endemic pathogens for which new vaccines are urgently needed. And they put 17 pathogens that they think our money needs to be used to go find the vaccines. And we always know when they try to discover the vaccines, they're reverse engineering the cure to the next pandemic. And all their returns seem to go up quite nicely. Right, sure. No conflicts of interest there then. Just today, the WHO demands urgent integration of health and climate negotiations ahead of COP 29. And when you read the article, it really brings to fruition everything that we have warned about for years on this show saying that climate change intersects with public health. And because of that, we need to have a coalition of every country that's working together to stop these made up crises in the name of, I don't know, making people like Klaus Schwab and Antonio Gutierrez even more powerful and having influence over your, your life. And then the best part, also breaking today, global pandemic treaty negotiations to conclude by May. The WHO says, right, if they can't rely on their apparatchiks here, if they're busy in the civil society column, they're going to double down, triple down, quadruple down on the globalist superstructure to wage war partly against Trump, but also against you, the MAGA movement. And today you have the NATO chief coming out melting down, saying that, oh, the Ukraine war is really important for United States territorial sovereignty. Yeah, maybe you should put out a statement about America's southern border. Is that in your vocabulary? Probably not. Yeah. Well, Norm Eisen put out a very telling tweet today. And that is the future of American democracy may look uncertain, but there are proven strategies for responding to illiberal Democracy. We should look at lessons learned in Central Europe and Turkey. And he points to Poland and Hungary in this long form. Brookings Institution report about all the ways that the United States has. Catch this. Waged color revolutions across the globe to bring about their perverted version of liberal democracy. Which brings us back to, I think, the opening of this show in where their version of liberal democracy is generals like Mark Milley getting to run the show and pretend that they're real alpha men, when in reality they're hiding at nice, swanky D.C. cocktail parties while they're sending your children and grandchildren to die to defend the borders of other countries and then demeaning you and calling you not Nazis, fascists and Hilarion for daring to support a candidate who. Catch this has the wild concept of putting America first. And he's not just saying that you're politically unwise. He's attacking you, your character and your soul. Oh, and by the way, if you're Christian, you're also a crazy bigot, zealot, religious, Christian nationalist. So you know what, Norm Eisen, you have all your playbooks about color revolutions and all these playbooks, all these strategies. Oh, we're gonna drill down and we're gonna let our audience know exactly what you guys want. But it didn't work on November 7th, and it's not going to continue to work because you haven't met this audience yet. And we don't give up without a fight. Just ask Kamala Harris. We'll be right back.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Natalie Winters
You're back in the war room, the show that was actually just named by Axios as one of the top post Trump victory MAGA media spaces leading the charge. Yeah, we know that Axios. You could have told us that a few years ago, but thank you for catching up. Might I just also add on a serious note, I'd like to dedicate the honor that Axios just bestowed upon us to none other than Merrick Garland, who thought that he could throw Stephen K. Bannon in jail and break this show. We just emerged as one of the, if not the most powerful shows in the media ecosystem that's not just maga, but for the entirety of this country. How's that for getting out of prison? Merrick Garland, you tried to destroy this show and we're going to take so much damn pleasure and reporting on the wholly justified probes into the crimes that you committed. Opening bid what you did to Stephen K. Bannon. We'll then go to the southern border, then we can go to what happened overseas, and then maybe we'll go to your family and your finances because I'd love to see who's been paying you. And we're going to take a lot of joy in reporting on that at the tip of the spear of MAGA media. And that's not me being narcissistic. Axios says as much. Yeah, Axios, which you probably read and you should get used to reading because maybe we'll break it in Axios, that we're investigating you. So thank you, Merrick Garland, for making this show grow so much. It's the Biden version of the Streisand effect. You throw a host in prison and suddenly it skyrockets and rips and roars like it never has before. So thank you, Merrick Garland, shout out to you. And I guess we'll throw Lisa Monaco and Matthew Graves and all those wonderful people in there, too. On that note, I think we are joined now by Mike Benz, who we're going to get into what CISA's future should look like. This sort of incoming censorship, information warfare. But I'm curious, though, just before we get into all that on the Color Revolution stuff, Norm Eisen's, I mean, quiet part out loud. Talk about an example of that tweet saying that he needs to use his same Color Revolution playbook here in the United States. Your thoughts on sort of this concept of civil society emerging as the hotbed of resistance?
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Mike Benz
Yeah, well, this is stock and trade intelligence work is that you cloak the operations of a shadow government in the nonprofit NGO university activist civil society space. I mean, this is what the CIA got in trouble for in the 1970s and then put on steroids starting in the 1980s for doing. And the fact is, Norm Eisen was born in this world, created by it, molded by it. Norm eisen was the U.S. ambassador to the Czech Republic and claimed that one of his proudest achievements was effectively leaning on the government of the Czech Republic to prosecute the enemies of the US embassy there. He is part of a post 2010 flock of state Department global puppeteers who've sort of crafted this doctrine that they call transitional justice, which is the idea that after the State Department floods the zone with cash and media and assets to tilt an election in a foreign country, a close election that they narrowly win in order to achieve a state of democratic stability where they don't need to worry about the other side ever winning again, they engage in this program they call transitional justice, which is the idea that when a country transitions from an autocratic leader to a democratic leader, you have to use the justice system against everyone from the previous political party so that they can't win the next election because they're all in jail. For example, if you look at this is what was done in the Czech Republic, this is what's happening right now in Poland. In fact, one of the CIA's top cut out a civil society institution called the National Endowment for Democracy, which calls itself an NGO, but it is 100% funded by the US State Department and is formally accountable to the House Foreign Relations Committee. I'm sorry, the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and was created in a letter from our CIA director in 1983, that it was set up for the express purpose of getting back the powers the CIA had lost in the 1970s. They wrote a direct article with the audience being the new Prime Minister of Poland who had narrowly won an election, giving him a list of names of everyone to round up from the previous political party to ensure populism is stamped out and does not rise again. It's explicitly using the criminal justice system to prosecute the people that they cannot honestly defeat in the political process. So that was done under the banner of an anti corruption probe, under the banner of transitional justice all over Central and Eastern Europe from about 2010 to 2016. And when Trump won the election here, that same flock of dirty diplomats took that same template that they had crafted in their little Frankensteinian incubator zone in central and Eastern Europe and deployed that against Donald Trump. So lo and behold, Norm Eisen goes from doing that transitional justice strategy to win politics through prosecutors in Central and Eastern Europe, and then he takes it Home to be Mr. Prosecute Trump here. And so it's no surprise that he would post that. I think what's so shocking about it is that he posted in the context of Alvin Bragg needing to keep his criminal case alive because prosecuting Trump is the only way to get rid of him because we can't beat him.
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Natalie Winters
Well, like you always say, there really is no, I think, sizable distinction between domestic and foreign policy. But I'm curious your thoughts. There's a lot of discussion among the MSNBC crowds of the world saying how it was disinformation and misinformation that caused Kamala Harris to lose with the corollary to I think if they embrace that idea logically, you would think that they'll double down on their censorship efforts and try to launch these programs probably globally. You always track to a lot of this comes, you know, from, from British funding or British manpower. But I'm just curious your thoughts on how you think they will be able to continue to wage, you know, censorship warfare in a post, post Trump victory era.
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Mike Benz
Yeah, they have two main strategies for this. There's the state strategy and then there's the global strategy. So the state strategy is going to involve a whole swarm of new state laws. California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Illinois, all the big blue states. There's going to be a big push by the censorship industry activists there to codify laws that put restrictions on the kind of content that social media platforms can host. And their goal there is going to be to Balkanize the country and create a sort of market disruption so that the only tech companies who are allowed to proliferate that kind of content there, lest they lose their ability to operate in the state or suffer heavy revenue fines, are going to be the ones who comply with those content restrictions. They're also going to use a push around something called media literacy, which is those states are going to box out social media platforms that allow free speech and box out news institutions like the War Room in order to prevent them from being accessed in public WIFIs, in order to be able to prevent them from being cited in high school or middle school or elementary school exams. You already see this. A major push to start that effort began in 2021. It really began in 2017, but it's escalated dramatically in the past few years. And it will fall on effectively the legal system to enforce the First Amendment against these states, which are going to try to create state level restrictions on what the platforms can host. But that's one battle at home. The second battle is that we are about to witness a replay of the transatlantic flank attack, as I call it, from the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election. They blamed the 2016 election on free speech. And that is what gave rise to the creation of the censorship industry that spans all of NATO and now beyond which is that they were out of power after 2016, just like now. Democrats lost the executive branch, they lost the House, and they lost the Senate, all there in 2016. And so what they did in order to get the ball rolling on censorship is you had these exiles from the Hillary Clinton State Department and the John Kerry State Department take their special set of skills, which is backchanneling with foreign regulators and foreign diplomats to do shadow diplomacy to essentially leverage their financial heft, to leverage the favors that they can repay once they return to power, in order to get foreign governments to institute censorship restrictions on American companies that were hosting pro Trump content or pro Trump accounts. So that was the sort of Transatlantic flank attack. 1.0. You are going to, mark my words, you are going to see an exodus from Tony Blinken, State Department, and they are going to go straight into civil society. Jobs at Brookings, at the Atlantic Council, at csis, at the Council on Foreign Relations, at the Penn Biden center, at Stanford University and the Harvard Belfer center, and you name it, they are all going to get their little purchase there and they're going to take that residual influence and they're going to be making back channel deals with NATO, with the European Union, with the governments in Brazil, in Australia. And they are going to try to do that Brazil strategy that they were able to successfully do under Brazil and make it so that the only platforms that are allowed to have global dominance on social media are the ones who do not allow their political enemies to have a voice. And there will be a constant fight between the Trump administration's diplomatic efforts through the government and the blobs censorship, diplomatic efforts in the shadow government.
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Natalie Winters
I think they say that the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. It's the supreme art of war is to censor your enemy without fighting. And I think you are so correct. They're gonna find a way, like they always do, to outsource, outsource this warfare to whatever globalist entity it may be. Mike, if you can hang with us through the break, I want to get your thoughts on what you think the future of CISA should be. I know the war room, and I'm sure the audience joins me, fully endorses disbanding it. This country's been okay since 2018 without it. A lot of these problems started, I think, when we had CISA come up so they could, what, lie to us about election results? Because they're not doing very good on the cybersecurity stuff. I don't know about that, but maybe that's all by design, right? I think we also got Philip Patrick joining us, Mike Lindell, but more with Mike Benz in the don't get me wrong forthcoming massive amount of information and censorship warfare because you guys were so effective on November 5th. But, hey, it's a fight we're willing to fight. We'll be right back.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Mike Benz
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Natalie Winters
You're back in the War Room. We're still joined by Mike Benz. Mike, your thoughts on how we can best, once and for all, kill the censorship industrial complex? At least the government side of things. Do you think we need to disband cisa? Is it focusing on State Department? Your thoughts?
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Mike Benz
All of it, actually. My foundation, ffo, is going to be putting out a comprehensive list of every single government department, every single government agency, and every single government program involved in Internet censorship. From the State Department to the Pentagon to the IC to the National Endowment for Democracy to USAID to HHS to DOJ to DHS to the National Science Foundation. That will be published next week. And we will continue to update and add more details for interested citizens to find out more at some point next week. But effectively it's everywhere. I mean, you mentioned cisa for one. CISA is one of the most corrupt institutions in its infant history. It was only created in late 2018, basically just in time for the 2018 midterms. It was created as a sort of political accident because of the intensity of Russiagate and the idea that we needed to secure our cyber systems against Russian hacking of the DNC type events, which turned out to not even necessarily be. I'll be charitable and say it was. At best it's unsubstantiated, at worst, it's the opposite of what happened. But the fact is CISA is a laundromat for rogue actors in the CIA and NSA to get domestic jurisdiction for black ops and very quickly. It was only born again in 2018, and by mid-2020 they had already seized long armed jurisdiction over all opinions on the entire Internet by U.S. citizens by mission creeping their way from saying that cyber threats, cybersecurity has to cover tweets containing misinformation or disinformation or mal information. True facts that simply lead people to a misleading conclusion. Because tweets on the Internet containing misinformation or YouTube videos or Facebook posts undermine public faith and confidence in our democratic institutions, which are required for a healthy democracy. And so it's really, if you tweet that Trump is innocent of Russiagate, then you are committing a cyberattack on the integrity of the Justice Department, which is a hallowed institution of our democracy. And so it needs to be censored by our cybersecurity agency. This is the sort of thing that the CIA and NSA would not be able to get away with because they're not allowed to target domestically. But if you take a bunch of rogue hackers and rogue black ops planners from CIA or from NSA and you park them at dhs, suddenly everyone from coast to coast becomes a fair game target as long as they are allowed to operate. This is not some hallowed institution that's been around for 250 years like the State Department or like the Defense Department itself. It is a brand new baby and it has been a twisted little sister from the day it was born. This thing needs to go back in the box. And if they want to continue to have some domestic role in cybersecurity, they should put their names in a resume and apply for it, or apply for themselves in a brand new congressional vote and see if that holds up in A Democratic vote at that point. But for now, the first step is saying sayonara to censorship.
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Natalie Winters
Mike, we'll definitely have to have you back on when you put that report out. In the meantime, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on. Where can they go to do that?
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Mike Benz
Best places on X, it's MikeBencyber. I'm highly prolific on there, so check me out.
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Natalie Winters
Thank you so much for joining us. We'll definitely have you back on. How about this, Cissa? Metaphorically burn it down and salt the earth around it. I think that's what CISA's future should look like. That's what we call justice. Speaking of justice, you know, turbulent times are ahead of us. Stephen K. Bannon always said, luckily we got the best guys in the business. Birchgold. Philip Patrick joins us now. We focused on how all the federal agencies are actively working to subvert President Trump's agenda. Right. The concept of Trump proofing, it seems like the Treasury Department, the Fed, all those lovely actors are engaging in those same tactics. Can you walk through how difficult they're going to make this transition, trying to convert it into essentially a Pyrrhic victory? For Donald Trump, it's going to be.
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Mike Lindell
A tough job for a number of reasons. First of all, he's going to be fighting a machine. Bureaucratic inertia, roadblocks along the way, that's to be expected. But we also have to remember the fiscal basket case that President Trump is walking into. Washington borrowed $762 billion from July through September in the up and coming quarter. So the first quarter of President Trump's presidency, they're planning to borrow another 823 billion billion. That is the largest amount ever for a single quarter. The overall federal shortfall was $1.83 trillion for the fiscal year of 2024, the high or the third highest now on record. So the key takeaway here is to look at the numbers. They are going up 762 to $823 billion. That is the wrong direction. Now, there's two ways out of this. There's austerity, higher taxes, lower spending, and a broad economic contraction or growth. Right. Make smart investments funded by debt that improve the economy. To look at it from President Trump's perspective, I'd say broadly speaking, he's an upside guy, not a downside guy. Right. He's a deal maker. He likes the idea of leverage and he's used it successfully. So the hope now is that economic growth, growth will outpace debt growth, but it is a long term goal and there are short term costs associated with it. But like you say, they are putting up roadblocks and they're going to make the job difficult. I saw a good example of this. I saw Scott Besson interviewing actually on the war Room and he was talking about how Yellen had spiked the cannons. This is a really good example. She moved virtually all borrowing to the short end of the curve, which was actually more expensive than long term debt. From a financial standpoint, it is nonsensical. It's like paying your 7% mortgage on a 29% credit card. But I think the intent was very clear. The first thing she wants to hand the Trump administration was a huge pile of short term debt that immediately needs to be refinanced. Pardon this expression, but it is the fiscal equivalent of taking a dump on the desk and walking out the door. But that is what President Trump is dealing with. But people have to understand it is spiteful and it shows the Biden administration's priorities. They are willing to burn the country down around them if it keeps their party in power. Well, it didn't work. President Trump has a tough job to do. If anyone can do it, he can. But the one nice thing to hear is we're not being gaslit by the administration. They're being truthful. Elon Musk has come out and said, look, look, we have to reduce spending. We have to live within our means. It's going to involve temporary hardship, but it will create long term prosperity. I've been waiting to hear these words for four years and I'm very excited. We have good leadership, but it's going to be a very tough job.
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Natalie Winters
Obviously, the debt ceiling deal is sort of a poison pill. You already have Powell saying he doesn't want to step down. What are other roadblocks you think this audience needs to be on the lookout for when it comes particularly to fiscal issues, the economy.
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Mike Lindell
Look, I think the Federal Reserve are not looking like they're wanting to play play ball. We're seeing debt financing increasing even though the feds are dropping interest rates. Jerome Powell obviously saying he's not going to step down if he starts to say, look, Trump's policies, tariffs are inflationary. That may be a rationale to keep rates higher and obviously restrict growth in the economy. But I think he's going to be dealing a lot with a lot of it. And we've just got to remember the problems that he's inherited. We have $36 trillion of debt, debt service payments last fiscal year were $1.2 trillion. That will handicap the administration that's coming against funds they have to invest in the economy. So I think all around it's going to be a tough job and they're going to make it even tougher for in.
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Natalie Winters
Philip Patrick, if people want to get in contact with you, Birch Gold, speak to people on the team. Where can they go to do that?
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Mike Lindell
Really simple. Birchgold.com Bannon Birchgold.com Bannon that'll get them access to a free information kit as well as the end of the Dollar Empire series. I think we're going to be working on a new installment soon. And to reach me, PhilippPatrick on getter.
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Natalie Winters
Philip, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon.
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Mike Lindell
Thanks, Natalie. I look forward to it.
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Natalie Winters
Of course. And Warren Posse, I got some good news for you guys. President elect Donald Trump has selected none other than our very own Bill McGinley as White House chief counsel. Shout out to Bill. Shout out to this audience. It shows you how important and critical you guys are to this wonderful MAGA movement. Gotta support the show, obviously. Birchgold.com Bannon you ought to be checking out patriotmobile.com Bannon I think Bannon's easy enough to remember. Support companies that don't hate you, of course. Hometitleok.com Bannon and slnt.com you know you support the show. Tip of the spear of MAGA media. That's axios. You know how much it pained them to have to write that headline. Probably just one other fun fact for this audience. You guys know we track everything that Mark Elias does. I'm his number one fan. There's this group called Contest Every Race and it's this far left progressive. They describe themselves as anti fascist so that tells you everything you need to know about them. But they're propped up by democracy docket which is Mark Elias organization. And In I believe 230 races where they say election deniers were running, they put forth entirely astroturfed candidates, you know, dark money. No one knows who's funding them to compete against these so called election deniers, right? These democracy subverters. And they had 42 candidates across primarily swing states. And you guys are going to love this. In every single race that they put up these fake democracy larping, crisis actor, false flag, whatever you want to call them, people, empty vessels, listless vessels, deep state subcontractors. I could go on. They lost every single race. Every single one. And I think there's a beautiful metaphorical significance that the so called democracy subverters beat out the dark money left wing socialist Marxist communist hacks in every single race. That they were propped up by the Marcoliaces of the world. And that my friend is the power of the MAGA movement. It's the power of this audience. And you know who else we need to make sure is receiving some of that wonderful power that is the Senate. You guys know it's 202-224-522-43121. Like I said yesterday, President Trump endorsed thunes primary opponent in 2022. Case closed. We don't want him, certainly don't want corn and he's probably even worse. We got Rick Scott. You guys have a reputation to uphold and a reputation who can get speakers deposed. Just ask Kevin McCarthy and maybe ask Jeff Miller too because I don't think they're probably doing too well, especially with Bill McGinley emerging victorious on all things chief counsel. But it's 2022253121 call your senator to make sure that they a don't vote for anyone whose last name is Thune or Cornyn. But more importantly, no secret ballots. It's offensive to all the election integrity activists in this audience. If we're going to run our Senate elections behind closed doors without verifiable chain of custody ballots, how can we demand that our country do the same? Right? Or maybe these people never actually cared about election integrity. That's probably also true. I don't think Mitch McConnell has done much to move the needle on that. So let's make sure we don't repeat decades more that America last.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Unknown Speaker
The voters that came out that made the difference in 2020 in Milwaukee, in Detroit, in Philadelphia, in Atlanta, working class voters, white, Hispanic, black, working class voters came, came out, made the difference, gave Joe Biden the margin of victory in those swing states. It didn't happen this year. And David's point is, of course, there are a lot of people that were really stretched that were working class and, and there wasn't, as Rev. Allen said a month ago, there wasn't the excitement where he had seen it four years ago in Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, people.
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Natalie Winters
I would like to put out a missing persons alert for the 10 million Democratic voters that didn't show up a week ago. Except I guess that implies that they're people and that's not quite the case because as we know on this show, they never actually existed in the first place. By the way, my favorite part of that clip. What is it he says? Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and one other. Only the largest hotbeds of election fraud in the history of this country, let alone in 2020. They don't even realize. Maybe that's why their viewership has cratered. Catch the this 50%, 50% since election day. Hey, we'll, we'll take the converts. Speaking of other people, Norm Eisen, I think he might be watching the show because he just tweeted out Trump's win should not be viewed as a personal or ideological triumph for maga. Well, I don't think you get to dictate how we internalize our victory and normal humbly push back and say it was a triumph for maga. Just ask Kamala Harris and just ask, I don't know every swing state. Yeah, that's right, seven for seven. But speaking of Norm Eisen, and it maybe sounds like I'm obsessed with him. It's not that. It's just that Norm is the rail head of the color revolution, vanguard of the Resistance 2.0. He was behind the impeachments, the law fair, all that stuff. So of course he did a long thread today talking. He's sad that Jack Smith is not proceeding. He's been lobbying for him to continue with his case against President Trump. But he thinks that Bragg and Mershon should continue with their two separate cases against President Trump because he thinks that it doesn't pose a threat. I'll read his words, but those don't raise the same kind of risk as or a major distraction of a president's time and day in, day out work life as sitting for a trial. It would basically consist of his lawyers taking a little time to explain the argument, share the briefs with him and the like. That's hardly unmanageable. So Norm Eisen, Mr. Democracy, Democracy, Democracy, who literally spends every 15 seconds of his life telling us that Russia is imminently going to destroy the United States and that Ukraine is like the most important issue that we must care about. He thinks that we live in a geopolitical time where the president, the president, President Donald J. Trump has enough free or spare time to undergo two criminal prosecutions instead of focusing on tackling the Chinese Communist Party, focusing on ending what's going on in Ukraine, focusing on tamping down the fire in the Middle east, focusing on securing our southern border, focusing on rooting out and expelling domestic terrorists. I'm not just looking at college campuses when I say that focusing on rooting out the enemy within, getting the military under check and under control. Norm Eisen is so sick and twisted. And that whole group of lawfare apparatchiks are so America last and hate this country so much. Not just saying because they all want to move to Canada hate this country so much that they would rather see President Trump be stuck dealing with lawfare than allow this country to thrive and succeed. And that is quite telling. That is the epitome not just of America last but of America never. And these selfish globalist traitors who have taken advantage of this country for way too damn long. It's on full display and we're really enjoying watching the freaking out and the panicking. Maybe we'll use it as evidence in your trials until we get to that point. We have Mike Lindell who I think for the I don't know if it's the first time in war room history, but is joining us from I think a from the sky in an actual airplane that's in flight, which is pretty cool. Mike Lindell hit us with the latest all things my pillow.
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Mike Lindell
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Natalie Winters
Mike, thank you so much for joining us. Something tells me we will have you back on very soon. And Warren posse. Don't worry, Steve is back. He's hosting the 6pm he just, shall we say, was out on assignment up in New York. I got a PTSD to him being away for four months hosting. But thank you as always, for hanging with me. We're gonna keep drilling down on all things resistance, all things color revolution. We're gonna keep trolling Mark Elias Normaisen who think that Trump's win should not be viewed as a personal or ideological triumph for maga. I don't think the losers get to determine the conditions of victory. Right. I remember when I sat here in this chair and said that victory, some would call it justice, will be Stephen K. Bannon providing live commentary on the trials of people like Hillary Clinton and Jack Smith thrown Merrick Garland for good measure. That's what justice, not retribution, looks like. And all the mainstream media that's melting down. There's a huge piece today. Trump is only putting loyalists in his cabinet. Yeah. With the BS you guys have thrown at him. For nearly a decade. No wonder why he wants loyalists. I mean, should he put World Economic Forum embedded or United nations loyalists in instead? Would that, guys, would that make you happy? I'm sure it would become January 20th. There's gonna be a different tone here in Washington D.C. it's gonna go a little something not like Billy Strings. I think that's who's playing. I honestly don't even know who that is. It's gonna go like America first responded, restoring the Republic. And we're keeping the Republic.
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Unknown Speaker
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