
Episode 4052: Seizing The Institutions ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
What's more important here is these appointments. Dan, let's focus on big day.
Dan Bongino
I won't.
Stephen K. Bannon
Senate Republicans are going to choose a majority leader, and if they choose the right majority leader, Donald Trump's going to get a recess and then he's going to do recess appointments. He's going to have a clear path to putting in place the people who will fulfill his election mandate. And you will see people like Cash Patel, by the way, as part of that. If that's not happening tomorrow, if John Thune or John Cornyn get control of the senate like Mitch McConnell did, we're not going to have a Trump Cabinet. It's going to be the same kind.
Dan Bongino
Of chaos we had come on the idea that John Thune or Cornyn won't support a Trump. They might say no to someone like Cash Patel. They might say no to someone like Ken Paxton. Do you think Ken Paxton should be Attorney General? Really?
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, you have to do your homework here.
Dan Bongino
Tell me what I didn't do.
Stephen K. Bannon
There's 4,000 appointments that have to be fulfilled. Thousand of those are Senate confirmed. One thousand and four years of Mitch McConnell, who is just the puppeteer for Cornyn. We didn't get half of those. And we took 100 days to get 80% of the Trump Cabinet. Just the secretaries. We didn't get our deputies, undersecretaries, assistants. And it's a big deal, Dan. So don't tell me democracy is working when the party that holds the Senate.
Dan Bongino
Yeah, I know.
Stephen K. Bannon
The party gets in the way of.
Dan Bongino
Appointments because the Senate shouldn't have a role according to your democracy, even though that's what it says in the Constitution. They should ignore their role. You asked me to do my homework. That's one thing I kind of did my homework on.
Stephen K. Bannon
People who are the Senate majority leaders or the Senate majority leader should be somebody who supports the Trump landslide. Look, the shipping now, they want an end to inflation. They want secure borders. They want mass.
Dan Bongino
The idea that Corn and the idea that.
Peter Navarro
Get it.
Stephen K. Bannon
If you put in the Cabinet la.
Dr. Peter Navarro
What can we expect from the meeting this morning?
Elon Musk
Look, we know that Trump is now going there with Elon Musk, who is going to huddle with House Republicans as they celebrate what they expect to be another term in the majority. And this really sets up a landscape, guys, that we've talked about before, one where Trump is coming into office with control of both chambers on the other side of Pennsylvania Avenue. It's exactly what he had last time. But to me, the biggest key difference is the ways that these Conferences have changed over the last several years. They have become more pro Trump, they have become more pro Maga, and just in greater number as well. And so both on the House and Senate side, that is a dynamic. As we watch this party chart a path, I think what's fascinating on the House side is just the ways in which he has allies installed at every turn and in every committee. People who are wielding gavel power, who will have subpoena power. Many of them are allies like Jim Jordan and others. The speaker of the House, too, Mike Johnson, told us just yesterday he's not just seeing Trump today, but that he'll be spending the weekend at Mar A Lago because they want to be able to hit the ground running with a full plan for January when Trump gets back in office.
Dan Bongino
Country does need to see, assign a symbol, an image of a peaceful transfer of power. Hence the Oval Office meeting in a couple of hours.
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Well, this is. Except for four years ago, this is what happens. And again, very, very few incoming presidents are liked by the incumbent president who is leaving, who thinks they did a better job. I spoke earlier this morning about Harry Truman being insulted by Ike, just sitting there and looking bored while he was giving him advice. And then, of course, jfk, him lecturing jfk. So it's going to be fascinating. Andrew Ross, working your thoughts?
Mika Brzezinski
You know, I think you need this, this moment, in a way. I know there's some folks straight by it, but I think it's one of those moments where you want to be, you know, you want to see, you want to see the country come together. No matter what side of the aisle you're on. In these circumstances, it's something I think most Americans wish it happened the first time around. So I don't think there's, there's much more to say about it than that.
Dr. Peter Navarro
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
Peter Navarro
You'Re not going to stop it.
Dr. Peter Navarro
It's going to happen.
Dan Bongino
And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Okay, welcome. It's Wednesday, the 13th of November, in the year of our Lord 2024, and this is obviously a massively historical day. President Donald J. Trump returns, returns to the imperial capital even as we speak. He's landed at Dulles. There are meetings all day. He's going to go to the White House. He will be at the, he's going to go speak to the House conference. He will see. They're going to have a secret vote later, I think on leadership, or vote later on leadership. And then you're going to go the Senate. The Senate's going to have their secret vote. We must make sure. We're having inroads, folks, but we have not seized the institution. 202-224-3121 I just want the audience to know your impact right now. It's being reported not by the war room. We're repeating what other news sources are saying. It looks like Cash Patel may be the new director of the FBI and Tulsi Gabbard may be the new head of dni, the director of National Intelligence, which, as you know, all 17 intelligence agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency, report up to that big fight today is this whole concept, this construct we have for the war in posse, the vanguard, the cadre of this movement, is about seizing the institutions. It's vitally important to seize the institutions. Dr. Peter Navarro joins me. Dr. Navarro, you gave a master. Peter, you gave a master class last night, not just on Higbee's, who was a fairly friendly audience over at Newsmax, Carl Higbee, the great Navy SEAL over there. And by the way, Carl dropped by. I want to thank Carl. He dropped by the our broadcast the other night. Didn't have time to get him on because he was going someplace else. But just a great, great guy.
Stephen K. Bannon
He's really good. Now, Steve, kind of a Pete yeah.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Okay, here's the rule, Peter. When I talk, you just sit there and nod and say, that's br. Just look at me. Just look at me with those eyes and say, you're amazing.
Stephen K. Bannon
The.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Steve, just keep talking. God, dude, I go to prison for a couple. No, I go to. I go. No, no, no. I go to prison for a couple of months. You get in here, get the mic, and everybody else pays attention. Natalie's been good. Dave Brat's been good. Anyway, Cash Patel, FBI, Tulsi DNA. Peter, before I get into the Senate thing, I may play your thing. You were a masterclass on Abrams. They ought to teach that. We're going to teach that in our gladiator school in a hostile environment. Peter Navarro keeps steady, just keeps answering and drives the narrative forward. But I want to ask today about President Trump going to seeing Biden, Melania, the great Melania, she's like, she's having her hair done today. She can't, she doesn't have time to go have tea with Jill. Talk to me about what should be accomplished today as President Trump goes to the White House. You were on the transition. You were on the campaign in 16. You were on the transition team. You were the first guy, I think, on Inauguration Day to go over the White House and get to work. You've been with President Trump the entire way. What is it about in transition? Why is this meeting important? What's going to happen today, sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, first of all, good for Melania. I think she just wrote the epilogue to her fantastic book. It's just, that's just she stands up just like the Donald does. And good for her. Look, here's the concern. Joe Biden and the people who control him are going to try to do all sorts of lame duck things that are going to be not only harmful to the republic, but just in the face and contrary to the mandate that Donald Trump just received. So it would be nice for that discussion with Joe Biden, for Donald Trump to let Biden know in no uncertain terms that whatever he tries to do is going to be undone the nanosecond Trump arrives and that it would be better for Joe to recognize what has happened here in terms of what needs to be done in this country and see if that can happen. I think the more important thing is going to happen up on the Hill. Donald Trump is going to, I hope, try to make sure that somebody not named John Thune and John Cornyn are majority leader of the Senate. And I'm already hearing, you know, the problem, Steve, is like I'm already hearing some people in Trump land want to do compromise. Well, let's get Cornyn because at least he's up for reelection and we can pressure him. And this, that and the other thing, I mean, that's like a fool's mission. It's really important here. And you know, Carl Higbee out of nowhere came up with the idea of maybe making J.D. vance the Senate Majority leader. It was done once before, like 100 and something years ago. But under no circumstances, Steve, can Donald Trump leave Washington and have John Thune or John Cornyn as the Senate Majority leader. That's what's at stake. And for your viewers, this is an action, action, action day straight out of the war room posse, you need to light up the switchboards at the Senate switchboards and let them know. Because here's the thing. Just institutionally, if we get a good Senate Majority leader, Unlike the Mitch McConnell we had, we can get two things. We can, first of all, a recess within 30 days of Donald Trump taking office. And that's important institutionally because that will allow Donald Trump to put in what's called recess appointments. They'll be there for two years, which is plenty of time in Trump land. And we'll get not only cabinet secretaries, all 22 of them. We should get the deputies that go with them. And then if we're really smart, we'll get the undersecretaries and assistance, and then we'll get the UN folks, we'll get folks at the FBI, the dni, the CIA. Just boom, you get the UN Ambassador. And if we don't do that today, I think that's Donald Trump's most important mission, getting a good Senate Majority Leader. If we don't do that, we get into protracted guerrilla warfare with both sides of the aisle and the Senate. See, what Schumer does is he screws the spigot down on the amount of time you have to run appointments through committee hearings. And that was a real constraint. And then you have the rhinos doing a hold. Somebody will come up, they'll put a hold on somebody, and the next thing you know, it's six months later. So that's the big deal today, Steve. Everything today, this day, must be about what happens with the Senate Majority Leader election. And it's got to be out in the open, Steve. It's just got to be out. But otherwise these people are going to lie in cheap steel.
Dr. Peter Navarro
I'm just going to beg to differ on one thing. You're going to stick with me for another segment for the audience. And look, we know we're putting you ahead of the curve, and I think you're seeing some of the announcements. The great Bill McGinley last night, one of our regular contributors had been here from the beginning, folks. I talked about election integrity over the last four years, headed up the RNC and the campaigns. Great efforts. Name White House Counsel, White House Counsel. The three most important jobs in the West Wing are Chief of Staff, White House Counsel, and Director of omb. Then you go down to Domestic Policy Council, National Security Council, nec, which are the power policy places. I do Disagree with you, Dr. Navarro, which is I rarely disagree with you. The theory of the case here is the seizure of the institutions. So the president today will be both with the Senate, the House, and he'll also be over at the White House. It's very important, I think, that President Trump lays out exactly what his transition is going to be and how in depth it's going to be because we must hit the deck plates running in the Senate. I believe that Cornyn and Thune have already agreed with the recess appointments even to be considered. I think they've agreed to that. If we do not get Rick Scott. And Rick Scott's a very imperfect instrument, ladies and gentlemen, as is Stephen K. Bannon, as is Dr. Peter Navarro, as is Tucker Carlson, as is Elon Musk, and as our own beloved leader, President Donald J. Trump. It's better than the alternative. We had to face a very brutal fact that the evil Mitch McConnell on the way out fought a rearguard action and he will win with Thune. And there's so many ways procedurally to slow down this agenda in the Senate because of the procedures of the Senate. Okay, Johnny Conn of Breitbart is going to take us out with American Heart. We're going to take a short commercial break. Dr. Peter Navarro joins me on a historic day in the imperial Capital of Washington, D.C. the return of Donald John Trump. Back in a moment. So I suggest you take a look inside.
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Dan Bongino
See a sign, a symbol, an image of a peaceful transfer of power. Hence, the Oval Office meeting in a couple hours.
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Well, this is except for four years ago. This is what happens. And again, very, very few incoming presidents are liked by the incumbent president who is leaving, who thinks they did a better job. I spoke earlier this morning about Harry Truman being insulted by Ike, just sitting there and looking bored while he was giving him advice. And then of course, jfk, him lecturing jfk. So it's going to be fascinating. Andrew Ross Orkin, your thoughts.
Mika Brzezinski
You know, I think you need this, this moment in a way. I know there's some folks straight by it, but I think it's one of those moments where you want to be, you know, you want to see, you want to see the country come together. No matter what side of the aisle you're on in these circumstances, it's something I think most Americans wish it happened the first time around. So I don't think there's, there's much more to say about it than that.
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Okay, coming up.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, Andrew.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Thank you, Andrew.
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Dr. Peter Navarro
We had to get the reaction. Dr. Navarro. Morning, Mika. Mika's really looking forward to bringing the country together, is she not? Dr. Navarro, MSNBC folks, ratings are down two thirds. Morning Joe's down. Andrew Ross Sorkin, who's a super progressive on Wall street trying to, trying to put the olive branch out to the Trump, the second Trump term. Peter, I'm sure you'll be on there one day talking about bringing jobs back with manufacturing, but morning, Mika. Mika not having it. And Joe was about to say, yeah, it's a good idea. And she gave him that dirty, nasty look that she can give. Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
The fun part was. Andrew Ross Sorghan, if Morning Morning Joe and me, they're, they're hopeless. But Sorghid's on squawk box. One of, one of the things you watch regularly. I've been canceled on there since Donald Trump walked out of the White House. It's like they just don't want to acknowledge the reality. But Hussorkin apparently has got the message. What's the big issue here, Steve? We've got a landslide. Trump has a landslide. He needs to govern the way the people have asked him to. And if you look at the top line, things that need to get done, we've got to handle the inflation issue and that's going to be drill, baby, drill. We got to handle the border issue. We've got, that's going to be secure the border. He can do that quickly. The mass deportations will take a long time on the inflation issue. We've got to get control of federal spending. And then you've got like the Woke issues men out of women's sports and all that getting some law and order going. But I get back to the significance of the day. Steve, you are so good at calling important days. And November 13th here today, 2024. Who gets in as Senate Majority Leader and under what conditions and promises they make will have a tremendous impact on the next four years. And I've lived that experience inside the Trump administration in the room when we would tear our hair out time after time because Mitch McConnell wouldn't declare a recession and wouldn't move our appointees through the process. And unless we get somebody who will do that, we're going to have to compromise on.
Dr. Peter Navarro
But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down. The Senate has kind of been. Remember back when it was formed, the state legislatures had. They wanted the Senate to be like a House of Lords, the property classes that would keep. That would be as a check on the House of Commons, which was the House. And they gave the House all the power. They gave the House the power to initiate the only reason people agreed to the Constitution, the 13, you know, the 13. The only reason they signed on, on the merger of equals of unequal entities and being an M and a guy can tell you it's so difficult and how they pulled it off. Remember, they pulled it off in 100 days and they lied to people, misrepresented. What they were just going to go update the Articles of Confederation because we were in an economic depression because you couldn't coordinate commerce. You could. The big thing was taxes. They would only agree to the Constitution if the House of Commons or the House of Representatives. All revenue generation comes out of there, right? Declare war comes out of there. The budget comes out of there. Really the investigations come out. They gave that power to the people and they wanted those guys constantly in motion of being back to the people to be reelected. The House really became treaties, which they wanted two thirds. So it was like the Roman Senate. Right. And treaties. And really the. They were the Human Resource Department advice and consent to confirm, to confirm senior level positions in the executive branch. It's kind of a check and balance. But even if they give. I want people to understand this, Peter. I want to make sure you and Iron sink with Thune and Cornyn saying, okay, we'll give you some, we'll give you a couple of days of recess. They're going to fight it. But if they have to do that to get across the ability of the Senate leader to jam up everything else is historic. If they want to slow down if they want to slow down the process, particularly on things like tariffs. The centerpiece of President Trump's second term, with all the capital markets that we have, is the Peter Navarro, Bob Lighthizer, the economic nationalism centered around the concept of protectionism. Right. To bring manufacturing jobs back and to get reciprocity. Reciprocity in trade deals. The Senate could jam all that up, could they not? Theoretically.
Peter Navarro
Dr. Navarro.
Stephen K. Bannon
Look, I think it's important, as Donald Trump's in Washington, I hope he has a total awareness of the following. The two things that slowed his agenda down significantly in his first term was the U.S. senate, controlled by Republicans and under Mitch McConnell's globalist Rhino, open border rule. And then people within his own administration, inside the West Wing, people like Gary Cohn, people inside his cabinets, Tillerson, Mattis and those clowns. And in order to get his agenda right and for his legacy, he can turn out literally to be the best president, not just in modern history as he's been, but in all of history. But that's why today is so important. It's like the first part of the two part problem he's going to face. He's got to get people in there who institutionally know how to move his trade agenda and his border agenda in his West Wing and in his Cabinet. And he's got to get the Senate to allow those people into the government and also not stand in his way. And we have seen the Senate repeatedly get in the way and they're going to like push for the traditional Republican things in terms of the Q. Remember, we got into tariffs late because Reince Priebus in the West Wing and then the Senate and the House. Paul Ryan wanted to do the traditional Republican agenda, Steve, rather than the transformational Trump agenda. So this is a big day, Steve. This is a really big day. And the posse is up to this because they know exactly how to do this. I know you will mobilize them. But I can't stress how historic this day will be. And this will be one of the most important days to determine how well Trump agenda goes.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Okay, why are we here? Why are we here? Why are we here with Trump even coming back to D.C. why are we here with Trump going to talk to the Senate and the House and kind of trying to kowtow because this cadre, this vanguard, did not give up. You and Boris and a handful of guys, men and women in this audience, in the audience. Remember, Bill. Hang on, hang on. 75%. Close to, let's say two thirds. I'll be gentle. Two thirds. Of MAGA kind of got wobbly for a while. One third with hardcores in this thing. When he left that tarmac, we said, we're not giving up. We're fighting to get it back. Because the story, the story has to, the American story has to have the return of the hero. And they just had this thing stolen. We will be back. We shall return. Like MacArthur said, we shall return. And Donald Trump's returning today. Let me be blunt. The numbers 202-224-3121 if. And the first vote if Scott finishes third, and he will finish third. As of right now, he's out. Barrasso didn't step up. We didn't hammer this. When I say seize the institutions, I mean seize the institutions. If they come out of here today with Thune and Cornyn, I don't care how much happy talk they give us and I don't care how many days of recess. Let's say they throw a couple of days of recess in there. Mitch McConnell is going to have his dead hand. It's like a dead hand switch. He's going to have his dead hand on power. On power. The Senate is set up institutionally different than the House. Institutionally different. You have so many procedural things in the Senate you can do to gum up the works. Let's put it on the flip side. Elizabeth Warren, who's as smart as they get up there on the Democratic side, she's signing general quarters. They got to get back and get their judges in. We reported this last week. Remember, we talked about it. Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and the guys, the judges guys, Hawley, they're going to do everything in a rearguard action to slow her down. She doesn't get one judge, not one. And we'll have another 20 or 30 or 40 slots for Trump judges. She gets it. But the procedures there that we can slow her down and chop block her are the exact procedures they can use to chop block Trump's identity. Write this down today because there was not enough focus and we didn't have enough balls to say, no, McConnell's out. We defeated him. The people have rendered their verdict. We don't want Ryanism. We don't want McConnellism. We don't want Republican ways today. If Thune or Cornyn, and I don't care how much fealty they show to Trump initially. I don't care how much they kowtowed to the maga. I don't care how they kiss the ring. It's a defeat. We must face it as a defeat. We're here. This show is about reality, not about fantasy. The reason we got this victory is because of this audience. The reason President Trump has returned, because he had the courage to step forward and say, like Cincinnatus coming back from the plow, I'm prepared to put myself forward. Will you have my back? And we have to be honest with ourselves. This will be a defeat. The forces that oppose US channel through McConnell too. Thune and Cornyn, short break. Navarro, hang around for a second. You're actually been a good guest this morning, although you try to grab the mic all the time. Dr. Peter Navarro on the other side in the war room. Little children in a straight line don't.
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Please do this today.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Okay, so a lot is going on right now. President Trump's over at the house. He's talking. He's talking, walking the House through his sweeping victory and his sweeping victory. He also referred to Mike Johnson. Is Navarro still up? He referred to Mike Johnson as a great guy. Look, we got to be realistic on this. We do not hold. We do not agree with the president on that topic. We just think leadership. These institutions of the House and Senate, they have their own dynamics. They have their own because they get these donors, the lobbyists. This is why we call it the cartel or why the guys like Russ Vogt call it the cartel. And we get we're fighting the cartel the entire time. No, we do not think Mike Johnson is a great guy. We don't think he's a great speaker. We think he's done a terrible job. And here's where the rubber is going to meet the road. Hey, get your number two parental out and just write this all down. President Trump's going to be inaugurated in the 20th and I think shortly in February. So, like, 10 days later, you're going to hit the debt ceiling. We're going to have to pass a budget. Right. Because the cr, they're going to kick the cr from, from December 20th, right. On Christmas Eve into January or February, as they should, to let President Trump make the decisions they're talking about. Maybe kick it down the road for nine months. That would take it out of President Trump's hands. Or do omnibus, which will fight tooth and nail. So that'll be there. And then the tax cuts. You guys are working on the tax cuts to reinstate the tax cuts, because they all come off, I think, in February. That firestorm. And it's a firestorm coupled with the deportations. And Peter, this is why it's so important to have McGinley in his white House counsel, because you got to get the right ag, because the Office of Legal Counsel and the Attorney General have to sign off on the deportation plan of Tom Homan and Stephen Miller. We got. Our guys are there. Homan's fantastic. Stephen Miller, deputy chief of staff for policy and really the connective tissue to Homan inside the White House for the mass deportations. It's just like the travel ban. Peter, you were there, the travel ban, as President Trump said. And Stephen Miller and I worked on it. It was going to be upheld by the Supreme Court because we had an Office of Legal Counsel opinion people should understand in the structure of the Justice Department. And Navarro will tell you, Navarro's a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University. I'm a MBA from Harvard University. But everything that we did, I'm an investment banker. Peter's an economist and intellectual. But everything in the White House has to go through the White House counsel and the Attorney General. The attorney General may be the toughest job in all government. Here's why everything crosses their desk. Not just the investigations and the criminal and the civil everything. The Pentagon does everything. The DHS does everything. The State Department does everything. Peter Navarro does on trade, on, you know, getting jobs to shipyards, on everything he did in Philadelphia, shipyard up in Green Bay, everything you did on all the trade deals. Your brilliant idea about Mexico, right, About using the tariffs as actual leverage. All of it goes through the Justice Department. That's why it has so many lawyers. That's why the pick of the Justice Department is so important. But institutionally, Peter, regardless of where you end up, you're one of the architects of President Trump's economic plan. He's got a very precise plan he's looking at to bring peace and prosperity to the world and high value added manufacturing jobs back to the United States of America so people can have one salary in support, a family of four. To do that, the House and the Senate got to be with the program. And with a very small minority in the House and a very small minority majority in the Senate, both in the House and the Senate, it's going to be incumbent that everybody's on the same page, particularly as we go through the firestorm. And remember this, folks, we're going to go through a firestorm. It just is because we're adding a trillion dollars of debt every hundred days. The debt's at 37 trillion. It's going to be 40. Epoch Times has reported the great report is over there. There's going to be $1.4 trillion right now of new financing that if it's Scott Bessin, whoever's the secretary of treasury, are going to have to sell those out into the market and we're going to add that to the national debt. So, Peter, on top of that, you know, look, Johnson's just not with our program. We just have to be. He may tell President Trump that. He may go down to Mar a Lago and say that, but when they're behind closed doors, he's not with the program and Cornyn's not with the program and Thune's not in the program. So the reality is we just had a sweeping election on the policies of Donald Trump, and it was Trump they were voting for. Why they Trump they voting for? They love his courage. They love the fact he loves America. They love the fact he's not a quitter. They love the fact that they couldn't break him. Right. That's how they brought this coalition together. Dr. Navarro, your thoughts?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, first of all, one of the big appointments you're going to see now, Steve, is not just AG but the Office of Legal Counsel because that's the portion in the DOJ bureaucracy where they sign off on every executive order that goes through doj, on what they call form and legality. And Brett Kavanaugh, by the way, got his start in that office. That's the prize. That's the plum. So I'll be looking very closely at that. I just want to say briefly about McGinley before, I want to talk about the economics. Bill McGinley is one of the original warriors. He got his butt kicked repeatedly when he was the head of Cabinet affairs in the first Trump White House by the likes of John Kelly and Mick Mulvaney and all of these jerks who didn't understand the brilliance and toughness of McGinley. And like a soldier that he is, he fought on. And when he was on the war room, repeatedly fighting this fight with us, Steve and I couldn't have been happier for Bill McGinley to get that post. And that's a good deal. Now, here's what I'm worried about, Steve. If you're a student of history like you are, and I am, if you remember what happened to Ronald Reagan after the stagflation of the 1970s, the first 18 months were hell on earth. I mean, it was just, it was like, this is the grand failure. I mean, few people remember that. My concern here, if we don't take the appropriate actions fiscally and if we don't quickly drill, baby, drill, and if we don't quickly handle the border issues, we're going to run into that same fiscal cliff over. We go over it and we run into really tough economic times, tough times in the financial markets, and then they'll go point, start pointing to Trump and say he's a failure. That was all a bag of wind. Right. And the point is, Steve, that he can't prevent that from happening unless he gets his people in to do what he needs to do in a timely way. And that's again, why we need.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Okay, but hang on, but hang on.
Stephen K. Bannon
But hang on, hang on. Will recognize the problem.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Hang on, hang on. He's over there at the house. You ought to get these pictures up. They're all out there like little children. Got their phones up and they're taking their photos like little kids and they're done. President Trump been there, done that. You've seen it. Yeah. He's sitting there, he's talking about how the big victory had and the coalition came to. That's amazing. And Jay Sherman's reporting. Hey, that he, Jake Sherman, wish he talked about debt and wish he had talked about spending cuts and wish he talked about all that. Maybe it's not the right format, but President Trump did not mention anything about it. Maybe I would advise him to say, hey, maybe you got to talk about. Hey, we got to get our act together here. He also gave a ringing endorsement of Johnson. Ringing endorsement. So now we're in the position. Now we're in the position. You oppose Johnson, you oppose President Trump. Look, this audience is here. This show is here. The reason I do this every day is to move this movement forward to save the Republic. And President Trump is the leader of this movement. Does not mean that we cannot disagree. We do disagree with President Trump on occasions. On this one, we're just going to have to disagree. No, we're not giving a ring endorsement for Polly Pockets. The reason is we see him in action. If he had supported President Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hang.
Dr. Peter Navarro
If he had supported President Trump, dude, you should support him early on with some policies and some investigations and maybe defunding. Defunding the invasion of the border and defunding the investigations into Trump and defunding Jack Smith. By the way, Jack Smith just announced he's resigning before Trump gets back. Jack, look, bro, you make sure when you resign and you and the wife book flights. Make sure, brother, when you book your flight to take your vacation, it's to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the United States of America. Bro, just take it. That's. That's free. Don't. Yeah, we already gave you the preserve of the document. So look, Jack Smith, Mike Johnson had every. President Trump. We'd love you. You don't have to. You got on the show right now two guys that went to federal prison at 70 years old. Actually, one went to a federal prison the hard way. Hold it. Another guy went to a camp. Another guy went to a camp in Miami and worked on his. On his tennis game. That would be Navarro. No, I went to a fricking federal prison. So look, you got. You can't. Our loyalty. Our loyalty is paramount. We got to tell you. We got to tell you. We got to tell you. Today's. We're not winning on Capitol Hill.
Peter Navarro
We're not.
Dr. Peter Navarro
They're going to glad hand you. They're going to sit there like little children and take those photos. Let me get a photo of President Trump. Got to get a photo.
Stephen K. Bannon
They'll crawl all over the.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Yeah, go ahead.
Stephen K. Bannon
I just want to reemphasize all the crap that Mike Johnson and those people in the house did not do for you and me, for President Trump and for this country. They kicked that can down the road so many times, it's got like 3,000 footprints on it. And they left us that mess. And there's no way you can praise these infamous men. You cannot do that. They have created a mess. And they could have. All that stuff they gave away, Steve. They could have attached riders to it so we could have secured the border and handled that situation. They could have disbanded the J6 committee in a way which said it was improperly constituted and unduly authorized and thereby helped the President in his court cases. And you and I and ours and all the other people in the Trump world, from Rudy to Eastman or Clark, they didn't do any of it. They turned their back on President Trump at the beginning of the Biden term because they didn't think Trump was coming back.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Hang on.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hear me on that, brother.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Hang on.
Stephen K. Bannon
They didn't think he was coming back.
Dr. Peter Navarro
Yeah. Hang on. This is not about us. I've never whined about. I've never whined about that prison. I've. This is not about a prison sentence. I was honored. Honored to serve in federal prison like I was honored to serve my destroyer. I will never bend the need of Nancy Pelosi or these corrupt people that run this Imperial Capitol. I will never do it. Ever. However, the House had full authorization to go after these guys, to take the J6 report, have a vote and throw it away. Not just because Congress ran out, it expired. To actually take positive action. If they had done that, there wouldn't have been the basis for Jack Smith to go and use that document to go after President Trump. There wouldn't have been. The document couldn't have been used in Colorado to try to get him off the ballot. That falls on McCarthy. We drove McCarthy from office, ladies and gentlemen. Never been done in the history of this republic. And Johnson did nothing, did nothing to support Trump. Nothing real. It's all performative. So, no, on this day, you must seize the institutions. If we don't seize the institutions, the revolution is getting a setback from the established order of the Republican Party. This is as clear as the note. This is. This is obvious, Peter. Where do people go? I know. You got to bounce. Where do people go to get your books? You got to get the maggot new maga deal because it's the blueprint for what we're going to do. Where do folks go, Sir? Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Dr. Peter Navarro
Dr. Navarro. Thank you, brother. Love you. Get you back up here. Thank you, sir.
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Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. So we have many fights ahead to implement the President's agenda, which is America's agenda is not. They're just not going to sit there and go, oh, this is tremendous. This is great. They're already building up resistance at the state level. You see, these are very organized. Natalie's got now some inside baseball she'll share with us later this afternoon. We're all over this resistance movement, but hey, it's when the, when you take on the established order. Half of our fight has been with the Republican establishment. I'm sorry to have to break that news to people, but come on, folks, you know that the established order works through the cartel, works through the money that flows through the city. Why does money flow through the city? You have a budget of six and a half to $7 trillion a year. That's just what flows through regularly. You have all kind of off balance sheet pockets of things going on. The face amount of our Debt is what, 37 trillion? Adding a trillion dollars every hundred days. You know the mantra here in the war room. But the contingent liabilities, the contingent liabilities of Social Security, Medicare, many other things, contingent liabilities, that means they're not hard liabilities, but on a certain condition, they would be true. The net present value of that is between 100 and 250, I think, trillion dollars. One day soon I'll walk you through that. But for now, take the contingent liabilities against the US Dollar against the full faith and credit of the United States government. And who's the full faith and credit of that? That would be you. This is what I kind of taught at Danbury. The prisoners there, most of whom you had to have a GED to actually get in the class because I tell you, a lot of prisoners show up there, particularly Hispanics and African Americans that just dropped out of school. So they require you to get a ged. And these young men are plain smart. They have native, raw intelligence. They're very smart. Oftentimes they haven't been educated properly. So they don't know a lot of the basics of even the US Government because they haven't been taught to them. They certainly don't know about modern capital markets or macroeconomics, although their lived experience. They're very smart. When you start talking about it, they understand something's going on. Their communities. This is why they were pro Trump, or this is why they. I should say pro Trump. Some were pro Trump, very pro Trump. But they were all virtually to a person, except for a handful anti Kamala Harris and quite frankly, anti Democratic Party, because they said the Democratic Party doesn't respond to us in these big cities. It's one of the reasons now I do. And Vanity Fair did a cover story on us, Bannon's war room, and went through kind of what we teach here in the war room and talked about you, the audience, as it talked about other groups and conferences, et cetera. But it was a. The writer did a very good job. I recommend strongly you go and buy the November issue of Vanity Fair and keep it and read it. It's a compliment to you. One of the things they talked about was the. Was the end of what we talk with Birch all the time at the end of the dollar empire. And we do all those installments. Not that we're opposed to the dollar. We want a strong dollar. I do think it has to be a discussion and a public debate that we will lead over the years about do we want to be the prime reserve currency? Because with the prime reserve currency comes a lot of obligations. One would almost say empire type obligations. That should be a public debate, which we don't have now. President Trump's forcing it. This is what America first means. We should have that. But in the system, in the global economic and financial system we have. If you destroy the dollar, the first people that get crushed or the people get crushed the most are the working class and middle class in the good old United States of America. That's what we support, the strong dollar. We support the dollar and dollar being strong. This is why I tell people to go to Birch Gold and they're a big sponsor of the show. Why? Well, I think you've seen the move in Gold over the last couple years. Kind of think we are right, although we don't give financial advice, we just lay out the macroeconomic. I will tell you, we're going to head into a firestorm. I can tell you this because the world's over leveraged. And when I see the Chinese Communist Party stroking who are, although they're communists, they're very tight with the dollar when they stroke over a trillion dollar check to infuse it into their regional financial institutions, banks and governments, because guess what, they got a real estate problem that is a ticking time bomb on their country. You know, we're overleveraged. We just are. I think there's $300 trillion of debt in the world right now led in the United States. This thing's spinning out of control and President Trump's going to have to confront it. I would have loved for him to said a word or two about that today to give him a heads up. Hey, lads, ladies and gents, I'm going to be back here, you know, in about 70 days, 80 days. The first thing we're going to get to is cutting their spending. And I got Vivek and I got Elon, I got these two young smart guys and they're telling me they're going to cut a trillion dollars out of this and, hey, reorganize stuff. Go for it. 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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4052: Seizing The Institutions
Introduction
In Episode 4052 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon engages in a critical discussion with co-host Dan Bongino and guest Dr. Peter Navarro. The episode, titled "Seizing The Institutions," delves into the strategic importance of selecting a Senate Majority Leader who aligns with former President Donald Trump's agenda. The conversation centers on the potential for recess appointments, the hurdles posed by Republican Senate leaders, and the broader objective of transforming key American institutions to fulfill Trump's policy mandates.
1. The Crucial Role of Senate Majority Leader Selection
Timestamp: [00:00 – 01:32]
Bannon opens the discussion by emphasizing the pivotal role that Senate leadership plays in advancing Trump's policy goals. He asserts that the selection of a Majority Leader who supports Trump is essential for facilitating recess appointments, thereby allowing Trump to install key officials without waiting for Senate confirmation.
Bongino challenges this perspective, questioning whether Republican leaders like John Thune or John Cornyn would genuinely support Trump's nominees, citing examples such as Ken Paxton for Attorney General.
Bannon counters by highlighting the extensive list of appointments stalled under previous Senate leadership, attributing the delays to Mitch McConnell's obstructionism.
2. Barriers Within the Republican Senate
Timestamp: [01:29 – 03:22]
Bannon elaborates on the internal Republican resistance to Trump's appointments, suggesting that Senate Majority Leaders like Thune and Cornyn might hinder Trump's ability to secure key positions. He underscores the inefficiency and obstructionism within the Senate, portraying it as a significant barrier to implementing Trump's agenda.
Bongino echoes skepticism about the Senate's willingness to support Trump, emphasizing the constitutional role of the Senate in appointments despite Bannon's suggestion to bypass this responsibility.
3. Strategies for Institutional Seizure
Timestamp: [05:14 – 22:12]
The conversation shifts focus to broader strategies for "seizing the institutions." Bannon and Navarro discuss the necessity of undermining traditional Republican figures who may obstruct Trump's plans. Bannon proposes that defeating establishment Republicans within the Senate is crucial for enabling Trump's policy initiatives, including economic reforms and border security measures.
Navarro adds depth to the discussion by analyzing the structural challenges within the Senate, referencing historical contexts and the original intentions behind Senate powers. He emphasizes the need for strategic control over key institutional processes to facilitate Trump's legislative and executive objectives.
4. Opposition from Within the Republican Establishment
Timestamp: [22:12 – 29:25]
Dr. Navarro contends that even if some Republican senators appear cooperative on the surface, institutional procedures and entrenched power dynamics will likely impede Trump's agenda. He warns of procedural tactics, such as holds and extended committee reviews, that could delay or block appointments and policy initiatives.
Bannon reinforces this by discussing the historical inefficacies of previous Senate leaders like Mitch McConnell, expressing concern that similar obstruction could recur unless proactive measures are taken.
5. The Path Forward: Mobilizing Support and Action
Timestamp: [29:25 – 43:17]
Bannon outlines a tactical approach for Trump supporters to influence Senate leadership decisions. He advocates for mobilizing the audience to contact Senate offices, expressing strong support for pro-Trump Majority Leader candidates. The goal is to ensure that the Senate facilitates Trump's recess appointments, thereby accelerating the implementation of his policy agenda.
Navarro supports this strategy by emphasizing the importance of controlling financial systems and implementing economic reforms. He also addresses the overleveraged global economy as a pressing issue that Trump must confront.
6. Challenges and Internal Disagreements
Timestamp: [37:01 – 43:17]
The dialogue reveals tension between Bannon and Navarro regarding the assessment of certain Republican leaders’ support for Trump. Navarro expresses frustration with figures like Mike Johnson and highlights internal disagreements about the effectiveness of current Republican strategies. This segment underscores the complexities and divisions within the pro-Trump movement regarding the best pathways to achieve their objectives.
Dr. Peter Navarro: “If he had supported President Trump, you should support him early on with some policies and some investigations and maybe defunding.” [38:23]
Stephen K. Bannon: “They could have attached riders to it so we could have secured the border and handled that situation.” [41:02]
Conclusion
Episode 4052 of Bannon’s War Room emphasizes the strategic imperative of selecting a Senate Majority Leader aligned with Donald Trump's vision to expedite recess appointments and implement significant policy changes. Hosts Bannon and Bongino, alongside Dr. Navarro, discuss the obstacles posed by Republican Senate leaders who may resist Trump's agenda. The episode advocates for proactive mobilization of Trump supporters to influence Senate leadership decisions, thereby seizing institutional control to fulfill their political objectives.
Notable Quotes:
Stephen K. Bannon: “Senate Republicans are going to choose a majority leader, and if they choose the right majority leader, Donald Trump's going to get a recess and then he's going to do recess appointments.” [00:05]
Dan Bongino: “Do you think Ken Paxton should be Attorney General? Really?” [00:51]
Stephen K. Bannon: “If we don’t do that today, we get into protracted guerrilla warfare with both sides of the aisle and the Senate.” [12:31]
Dr. Peter Navarro: “The established order works through the cartel, works through the money that flows through the city.” [42:34]
Stephen K. Bannon: “This show is about reality, not about fantasy. The reason we got this victory is because of this audience.” [41:01]
Final Thoughts
For listeners seeking to understand the intricate dynamics of Senate leadership selection and its impact on Trump's potential second term, Episode 4052 provides a fervent perspective on the urgency of seizing institutional control. The discussion underscores the perceived necessity of bypassing traditional Senate procedures to swiftly implement policy mandates, reflecting the strategic mindset of Trump's inner circle aiming to reshape American governance structures.