Episode 4054: Matt Gaetz For AG Creates Nuclear Fallout In Media

Summary

Episode 4054: Matt Gaetz For AG Creates Nuclear Fallout In Media

Introduction

In Episode 4054 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the explosive nomination of Congressman Matt Gaetz as the Attorney General (AG) by President Donald Trump. This episode dissects the potential ramifications of Gaetz’s nomination on the Department of Justice (DOJ), the media landscape, and the broader political arena.

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1. Breaking Down the Nomination

The episode kicks off with Katie Tur reporting on the pivotal announcement made by President-elect Donald Trump, nominating Matt Gaetz, a controversial Florida Congressman, as the next Attorney General.

• [00:00] Katie Tur: “Breaking news into CNN just moments ago... Donald Trump has nominated his pick for Attorney general, and that is Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz... These confirmation hearings are going to be intense, to say the least.”

Jake Tapper echoes this sentiment, highlighting the unprecedented nature of nominating Gaetz, who is atypical compared to previous candidates due to his contentious background.

• [00:19] Jake Tapper: “Matt Gaetz... that'll knock you right off your feet.”

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2. Reactions from the Justice Department

Katie Tur conveys strong reactions from within the DOJ regarding Gaetz’s nomination, describing it as “insane” and questioning his suitability for the role.

• [00:36] Katie Tur: “...Justice Department who just used the word insane to respond and react to this potential appointment... questioning whether Matt Gaetz can be confirmed.”

Steve Bannon builds on this, emphasizing the threat the nomination poses to the DOJ’s independence and the rule of law.

• [01:04] Steve Bannon: “...a blow to the independence of the Department of Justice... undermining of the rule of law in this country that is so fundamental... one step closer to countries that we heretofore have viewed as enemies of a democracy.”

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3. Matt Gaetz’s Qualifications Under Scrutiny

The discussion shifts to Gaetz’s legal credentials, with conflicting statements highlighting controversies surrounding his suitability for the AG position.

• [02:53] Jake Tapper: “Is Matt Gaetz a lawyer?”
• [02:53] Steve Bannon: “He's not a lawyer.”
• [02:54] Jake Tapper: “He is a lawyer.”
• [02:54] Mark Wayne Mullen: “He is a Lawyer.”

This exchange underscores the contentious debate over Gaetz’s qualifications, with Tapper and Mullen defending his legal background despite Bannon’s objections.

Jake Tapper further critiques Gaetz’s lack of prosecutorial experience compared to previous AG nominees.

• [03:05] Jake Tapper: “... Matt Gaetz has never served as a prosecutor. He was only briefly in private practice... one of the fiercest defenders that Donald Trump has had.”

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4. Potential Impact on DOJ and Government Integrity

Katie Tur and Steve Bannon express deep concerns about Gaetz’s potential impact on the DOJ and broader government integrity. Tur highlights the fear among career civil servants regarding Gaetz’s disdain for the DOJ.

• [04:04] Katie Tur: “...Matt Gaetz has shown disdain for the Department of Justice.”

Bannon warns of a "primordial scream" signaling the decline of American democratic institutions.

• [04:35] Steve Bannon: “This is the primal scream of a dying regime... It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?”

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5. Steve Bannon’s Perspective on the Nomination

Throughout the episode, Bannon provides a fervent defense of Gaetz’s nomination, framing it as a strategic move against the "deep state" and governmental corruption.

• [05:16] Steve Bannon: “...Gates, Hegseth Tulsi, Bill McGinley, Stephen Miller, and there's more going to be coming. We are about to change this country for the better.”

He continues to praise Gaetz’s political maneuvers and his role in opposing the former Speaker of the House, highlighting Gaetz’s strategic acumen.

• [30:38] Mark Wayne Mullen: “...the confirmation hearing is going to be critical because this is the same DOJ that exonerated Matt Gaetz...”

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6. Confirmation Hearings and Strategic Communications

The discussion transitions to the upcoming confirmation hearings, with Bannon and his guests strategizing on how to ensure Gaetz’s smooth confirmation despite opposition from within the Senate.

• [34:11] Mark Wayne Mullen: “...the confirmation hearings alone might bring down the DOJ... Matt Gaetz is brilliant. He's constantly underestimated...”

Bannon underscores the importance of maintaining pressure and leveraging social media to support Gaetz’s nomination.

• [43:27] Steve Bannon: “...get Caroline Wren on Twitter, get her and Truth Social and let's get these folks through and let's save the country.”

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7. Guest Insights and Support

The episode features guests like Darren Beatty and Caroline Wren, who lend their support to Gaetz’s nomination, emphasizing his resilience against DOJ scrutiny and his commitment to restoring law and order.

• [31:18] Darren Beatty: “...the DOJ is at the center of this very dark theme... Gates is not only a lawyer... but he has been at the receiving end of that very kind of persecution.”

Mark Wayne Mullen highlights Gaetz’s strategic prowess and his potential to dismantle perceived corruption within the DOJ.

• [35:34] Mark Wayne Mullen: “...Matt Gaetz is a master, master chess player here. He is going to be so impressive in these confirmation hearings...”

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8. Broader Implications for the Administration

Bannon extends the discussion to other key appointments, including Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence (DNI), portraying the administration’s strategic reshaping of governmental institutions.

• [40:06] Steve Bannon: “...Tulsi Gabbard at DNI, you got Matt Gaetz at Justice...”

This broadens the narrative to suggest a comprehensive overhaul aimed at "draining the swamp" and combating the "deep state."

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9. Public and Political Reactions

The episode touches on public sentiment and the anticipated media backlash, reinforcing the narrative of resistance from established media outlets and the political establishment.

• [44:47] Mike Lindell: “...catch the war room policy. But none of them want to come on here. They're still, I think, afraid over in California.”

This segment underscores the polarized reactions and the challenges Gaetz may face during his confirmation process.

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10. Closing Remarks and Future Outlook

Concluding the episode, Bannon reiterates his unwavering support for Gaetz, forecasting a transformative impact on the DOJ and the broader fight against governmental corruption.

• [51:49] Steve Bannon: “Matt Gaetz is going to begin a long, multi-year process against the globalists, against the deep state, to set things right.”

He emphasizes the historic nature of the nomination and the anticipated battles within the Senate.

• [53:31] Steve Bannon: “Matt Gaetz, the firebrand has been nominated by President Trump to Attorney General...”

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Conclusion

Episode 4054 of Bannon’s War Room presents a fervent defense of Matt Gaetz’s nomination as Attorney General, positioning it as a pivotal moment in the battle against perceived governmental corruption and the "deep state." Through passionate commentary and strategic discussions, host Steve Bannon and his guests articulate the significance of this appointment, the challenges ahead, and the broader implications for American governance and justice.

Notable Quotes:

• [01:04] Steve Bannon: “...a blow to the independence of the Department of Justice... undermining of the rule of law in this country that is so fundamental... one step closer to countries that we heretofore have viewed as enemies of a democracy.”

• [03:05] Jake Tapper: “...Matt Gaetz has never served as a prosecutor. He was only briefly in private practice... one of the fiercest defenders that Donald Trump has had.”

• [30:38] Mark Wayne Mullen: “...the confirmation hearing is going to be critical because this is the same DOJ that exonerated Matt Gaetz...”

• [34:11] Mark Wayne Mullen: “...the confirmation hearings alone might bring down the DOJ... Matt Gaetz is brilliant. He's constantly underestimated...”

• [43:27] Steve Bannon: “...get Caroline Wren on Twitter, get her and Truth Social and let's get these folks through and let's save the country.”

Transcript

[Katie Tur]

Breaking news into CNN just moments ago, posted to social media. President elect Donald Trump has nominated his pick for Attorney general, and that is Florida Congressman Matt Gates, a Republican firebrand, a lightning rod for controversy. These confirmation hearings are going to be intense, to say the least.

[Jake Tapper]

We just got a little bit of breaking news. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General. That's who Donald Trump is nominating or trying to nominate for Attorney General. Matt Gates. He thought Pete Hegseth was surprising. Matt Gates, well, that'll knock you right off your feet.

[Katie Tur]

Gotten two different texts from different people at the Justice Department who just used the word insane to respond and react to this potential appointment. And then also questioning whether Matt Gates can be confirmed. And one person asked me to research whether anyone had ever been nominated for the post of Attorney General who had been investigated by the Justice Department. We'll have to look into that. But my initial reading is that I can't think of any time that's ever happened in American history of the most.

[Steve Bannon]

Prominent people of the Department of Justice, all selected by Donald Trump, saying they cannot do this. And so what I see with these announcements is a real blow to the independence of the Department of Justice, that the independence of the intelligence community, and that is, you know, to put a fine point on it, if this were to come about, that is a blow to any check that they could pose to the president and an undermining of the rule of law in this country that is so fundamental that it really takes us one step closer to countries that we heretofore have viewed as enemies of a democracy.

[Jake Tapper]

In D.C. today, bracing for the return of Donald Trump presidency. Within the last hour, Trump making clear just what kind of presidency he had in mind all along by naming Congressman Matt Gates as his choice to be the country's Attorney general. Trump making that news in a social media post by saying that Gates will, quote, end weaponized government, which is in and of itself a delusion of the far right. It is yet another sign, though, that Donald Trump is rewarding loyalty this time above everything else as he builds a new cabinet. Since Gates was all in on Donald Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election. In fact, he was so concerned about his criminal exposure that he asked Donald Trump for a pardon. In the last days of Trump's first presidency, Gates was also under investigation for sex trafficking as recently as 2023. He will now lead the department that once investigated him. Should he be confirmed of the legal. Is Matt Gates a lawyer?

[Steve Bannon]

He's not a lawyer.

[Jake Tapper]

He is a lawyer.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

He is a Lawyer.

[Jake Tapper]

And he was briefly in private practice before he was elected to Congress. However, I'm sorry, before he was elected to the Florida House, where he served some time before he did.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

You need to be a lawyer.

[Jake Tapper]

I believe that you should be a lawyer to be the Attorney general. But, Katie, this is a really stunning announcement because when I think about various people in Trump worlds who are floated as possible attorney generals, all of them are people who had serious legal credentials as well as fidelity to Donald Trump. And I want to be clear about that, because when we talk about the Mark Paolettas of the world, or Mike Davises, or even someone like Todd Blanche, who has recently served as Donald Trump's personal attorney, all of them had experience, if not in the executive branch itself, in or around the Department of Justice, the Supreme Court and in Congress that would have allowed them to serve that role. Matt Gates, on the other hand, has never served as a prosecutor. He was only briefly in private practice. But what he has been is one of the fiercest defenders that Donald Trump has had throughout his original presidency and on through the future.

[Katie Tur]

But this kind of appointment is really striking fear and trepidation in the hearts of the career civil servants over there, because what they revere above all is respect for the law and procedure and norms. And look, we can't prejudge. I mean, Matt Gaetz may, may become a different person if he gets confirmed as Attorney General, but what he's shown so far as a member of Congress is disdain for the Department of Justice.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah.

[Jake Tapper]

And Donald Trump was going to become a different person when he got the White House in 2016.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Katie Tur]

MAGA Media I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Mike Lindell]

War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

[Steve Bannon]

Wednesday, the 13th of November, in the year of our Lord 2024. There are days that what we do here at the War Room is just so amazingly enjoyable that the feeling you get and the buzz you get is incredible. One of the in this, you know, I was going to start with thun one and the dead hand in McConnell and all that. And President Trump once again, what a rock star. He just so thune promising some recess days, but promising we'll stay here every day. We will, we will get every one of his nominations through and he gives the biggest, I guess f you. Okay, here you go, bro. Here you go. Start with Matt Gaetz, my new attorney General. Matt Gaetz is the fiercest of the fierce warriors. He is the firebrand of firebrands. He, Matt Gaetz single handedly conceived of in this very building, the Breitbart Embassy, conceived of the exact strategy and tactics and execution to take down a sitting speaker. First off, to hogtie a sitting speaker of the House for the first time ever and to do it in January 23rd with McCarthy and then to take him out nine months later after he had lied to everybody. That's the kind of individual Matt Gaetz's brilliant, determined, focused, relentless. So President Trump wanted what you see with Weisman. And by the way, Weisman, bro, you are going to prison for so long. It's going to be so enjoyable. All of the, all of the, everything that you guys did, everything you've done for years, starting back with Comey Weissman. And I got to tell you, Weissman, I found out a lot about you when I was in federal prison. You are going to have a very tough ride there, bro. You're going to have a very tough ride there. Yep. You see Weisman, the shock inside this city, I can't describe it. I kind of knew it. That's why I said, and I told some people, hey, there's one that's going to make, it's going to make Pete Hegseth look like General Grant, this thing. And President Trump did it and did it before I think anybody expected. He'd been mulling this over for many days. And the people that worked on this to keep it secret were absolutely amazing. I think they actually talked in code. But President Trump has just thrown down against the apparatus. He said, okay, yep. And he gave you a couple of conventional picks out of the box. There's a couple of conventional picks in it. Marco Rubio, Senator Rubio being one of those. Although Senator Rubio is as anti CCP as you can get in this city. Not war room level, but pretty, pretty, pretty hard. Ian Waltz and they got some neocon tendencies. I think President Trump will take care of that. So a couple of conventional picks there. But man, the unconventional ones. Tulsi Gabbard at dni, all of. And hey, when Matt Gaetz was announced, Hegseth and Gabbard, there will be one hour confirmation hearings. Stamp, good process, good move on. Give him a stamp. I cannot tell you. It's hard to describe how this has hit the city like an airburst. And here's the reason. Matt Gaetz does not play games. Matt Gaetz, with a handful of rebels and not even President Trump on our side. And Fox News adamantly against us, adamantly opposes. That's where you never see Gates on. On Fox took down a sitting speaker of the House for the first time in the history of this republic. Let me repeat that. The first time in the history of this republic. You think he's a tough fighter. You think he's smart, you think he's both strategic and tactical. What do you think he will do to the deep state? He's a firebrand. He hits like a blowtorch. But he's got a brain, an ability to think on his feet and speak on his feet. That's very rare. Look how few people in this town have that. I'm honored. He's been the co host here. He's been the host here. He's been one of our biggest contributors over the years. And when we had to get into the fight, he was on every day. And he was blocked by so much other media, including Fox News, that essentially blocked him. I also think this shows you the demise of Fox News. They head up there. We'll play a clip later. It's Trey Gowdy trashing him, by the way, Trey Gowdy, before you trash Matt Gaetz, let me just ask. Inquiring minds want to know. I'm asking for a friend. Why did you leave so quickly? And why didn't you go to, you know, be a prosecutor or U.S. attorney or go to a big law firm or get a big payday? Go to a big law firm. Why people want to know why you left so quickly. I've heard a lot of rumors, but we don't traffic in rumors here. I'd like you to come forward and just tell people. Why did you leave? People like to know. And I think Trey Gaddy, before you start coming to Matt Gaetz, understand a lot of people don't like you. You were a traitor in the, in the House Intelligence Committee when they removed. When Ryan, who's on the board at Fox, removed Devin Nunez and you took over and you basically work with Swalwell and Shifty Schiff. Yes, You. I was there. I was there for what, 20 hours being grilled. Uh huh. Cost me a fortune. I had Bill Burke and Alex Spiro, two great lawyers. And you're coming after Gates. Hey, Matt Gates is going to get confirmed. Do you know why Matt Gates is going to get confirmed? Because Donald John Trump, who's soon to be the 47th president, wants him as his Attorney General. Look at that. Look at the thing he put on. Truth Social. President Trump has thought this through. He's going to hit the Department of Justice with a blowtorch. And that blowtorch is a guy named Matt Gaetz. This is called Game On. I've talked about deconstructing the administrative state and taking on the deep state. Well, hey, Game On. Got Tulsi Gabbard at DNI, you got Matt Gaetz at Justice, you got Bill McGinley, you have Stephen Miller, you have some hammer. Pete Hegseth, you have some hammers. Yeah. Pete Hegseth's never run a big organization and that's the most complicated. You got to put some people around Pete. There's no doubt about that. Pete will want that. He'll need that. There's a lot of good people out there. You can do that. But Pete's got. Pete's a leader. He's kind of a madman. But hey, you need that in this situation. You need that, you need that. So they're all in meltdown. You'll see their face. Andrew Weissman was about to cry because Andrew Weissman understands the next five years of his life, his legal bills, because of what he's done to this country and Weismann and people like it. McCabe, I think you were right. And if we could pull that clip so I can play it later. McCabe, remember on CNN saying, I've got to, I'm going to leave the country and kind of starting to cry. He wasn't crying when he was the big shot. Trying to run people down, right? Coming over, getting on me, getting on Trump, getting on people. Big shot then, not so tough now. Your voice was quaking. Well, yo, yo, we got Matt gates now. So McCabe, hey, I don't know, it's a free country or quasi free country. You're a free man, you can do what you want. Maybe now it's time to get on that plane and go to that country we don't have an extradition treaty with. I think there's going to be a big American colony. I'll pick a random country. Uae, Dubai, Right. They're all going to hang out in Dubai. I think there's going to be a big American colony there. Incredible. Matt Gaetz has been nominated as the Attorney General of the United States of america by the 47th President of the United States, President Trump. Folks, this long, tough struggle in President Trump's hero's journey and your hero's journey, this is what winning feels like because we got a long, tough fight ahead of us. But man, you put down in the trenches with us. Gates, Hegseth Tulsi, Bill McGinley, Stephen Miller, and there's more going to be coming. 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[Katie Tur]

You got to think about this guy. This is a guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a time of day to after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl. And there's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him. Because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ed medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night. This is obviously before he got married. And so when that accusation came out, no one defended him. And then no one on the media would give him the Time of the day. All of a sudden, he found fame because he opposed the speaker of the House back in November. And he's always stayed there. And he's not. He was never going to leave until he got this last moment of fame by saying, by, by going after a motion to vacate.

[Steve Bannon]

It's important to know Congressman Gates has never been charged with any sex trafficking crime. And he gave this statement to CNN in response. I don't think Mark Wayne Mullen and I have said 20 words to each other on the House floor. This is a lie from someone who doesn't know me and who is coping with the death of the political career of his friend Kevin. Thoughts and prayers.

[Katie Tur]

Are you going to vote for Matt Gaetz? You know, Matt Gaetz and I, there's no question that we've had our differences. They've been very public about it. I completely trust President Trump's decision making on this one. But at the same time, he's got to come to Congress and sell himself. There's a lot of. Or to the Senate and sell himself. There's a lot of questions that are going to be out there. He's got to answer those questions, and hopefully he's able to answer the questions right. And if he can, then we'll. We'll go through the confirmation process. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from the great state of Oklahoma. Good to see you, sir. Thanks so much for being here. I really appreciate it.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow, wow, wow, wow. Mark Wayne Mullen. You got to remember Mark Wayne Mullen, kung fu fighter from Oklahoma. He's. He was McCarthy's bestie and he was crushed when we crushed. Remember that quote? No one in media would give him the time of day to put him on. Yo, bro, I take it you're not a boardroom watcher. Of course, Fox wouldn't. If you're watching Fox TV for stupid people, yeah. You wouldn't see Gates. Gates was banned. Gates was banned. He was banned. But Gates took down a sitting speaker of the House. And remember President Trump when he did that was not President Trump's fight. Didn't want to have anything to do with it. Kind of like Kevin, we had different ideas about what had to happen, but it was fine. He kind of gave us. He kind of gave us room to maneuver. Maybe jumped in and up. He gave us room to maneuver. But he knows that Gates is his fiercest defender and his most brilliant defender, as he has. And today, Matt Gaetz has been nominated to be Attorney General of the United States of America. And let me be brutally frank. About that. And Mark Wayne Mullen, thank God and very gentlemanly goes on, said those other things before, but Matt Gaetz has been exonerated by the, by the FBI and the DOJ never charged. It was dropped. A lot of rumors and a lot of things were spread to try to destroy Matt Gaetz and to try to destroy Matt Gaetz's wife, Ginger, a great person. But Mark Wayne Mullins right there, hot take. He said, hey, it's President Trump's. He says Matt's got to come up some stuff. And Senator Mark Wayne Mullens, I agree with you 1,000%, Matt. Congressman Gates is going to have to go there and he's going to make the case now. He can make the case, but he's one thing Matt is not shy about is putting forward his case. And Mark Wayne Mullins said the quiet part out loud. This is President Trump. It's a new day. President Trump has the House, the Senate and the executive branch. And to be brutally frank, he's got the courts. Yep. This is called full spectrum dominance. Full spectrum dominance in a military term. And President Trump deserves and will get the attorney general he wants, like you'll get the CIA directory wants and we'll get the DNI wants. It's advice and consent. Give us your advice and then consent. We'll take it on board. Tell us what you think. I got it. Okay, fine. Thank you very much. Not consent. Give me a vote. There's some between two. Two senators already said I'm not gonna vote for him. Okay. We'll go through the secret vote for Thune in a minute. But I get. He's put Thune on notice. Put Dune on notice. Hey, you told me you would give the recesses. That's how you even got to this approval today. And you committed and committed to me. That would be Trump, that they will take as much time as possible, do as much as possible, stay as possible and confirm his nominees. I'm going to need a clock here, brother. Thank you, sir. The I'm always better with the clock because I'll keep talking forever on this. I'm all worked up. You can tell I'm all worked up. And I got. Caroline Wren's going to come here and Darren Beattie is going to come here. People have been in this fight down in the trenches with us and know what reality is and know what the confirmation's got to be and what's going to happen. Let me repeat this. Matt Gaetz, the. Matt Gaetz, the firebrand has been nominated by President Trump to Attorney General and given a mandate according to President Trump's truth. And if the guys in Denver can get a chance and put his truth social post up, because it's kind of lengthy, it's actually truth takes a big, you know, you can get a big old statement on truth. This one takes, I think, a couple of truths because this one was a truth to power. This is a city of lawyers. And like the Constitution's a contract. The Constitution is a contract at the day. It's A in M and A terms. It's a merger of equals among unequal entities. And that's. You had to have trade offs and balances of powers and checks and balances. It's all laid out there. The Constitution that's been around for what, 235 years and served us so well in the Constitution. Right. The Senate is kind of the human resources department. So they get, they get, they get, they get to have, they get to have a vote. They get to have a say. So. And, and we appreciate that. But President Trump's got a team. He's thought this through and he gave Gates a mandate. President Trump got a mandate from the American people. This is exactly what Lincoln argued in the executive order of the Emancipation Proclamation. What he said is that I put the Emancipation Proclamation out there as an executive order and I gave the people two years to think about it, and they reelected me. This is Lincoln. Therefore, I need the amendment to the Constitution because I put the executive order out there. I freed the slaves in the areas under rebellion because that's what my lawyers and we work through as an executive order. The White House counsel and the Attorney general worked through as what he could do at the time. And he then said, but I allowed the time for the people to chew on it, let it sink in and think about it. And the American people voted. That's what happened here. That's the exact analogy. Here they have President TRUMP With 92, I don't know, felonies. They've indicted him how many times? They've done the show trials in New York. They tried it in Georgia, tried to do a show trial, but they had a whole show trial. He's supposed to be sentenced on the 26th of 34 felonies. I used to sit there in Danbury and say, hey, I want to show hands. How many people here have more felonies than the guy trying for President Trump? You know how many hands went up? Zero. None. None in a federal prison. None. The American people weighed and measured this. It was what is what. Essentially they ran on, he's not a Democrat.

[Katie Tur]

He's.

[Steve Bannon]

He's a dictator. He's an authoritarian. He's Caesar Kagan wrote it in the Washington Post all over. This is what got the assassination attempts going. The American people could weigh and measure, and they weighed and measured in the great common sense and wisdom of the American people. Yes, the American people that fought a revolution. After weighing and measuring and thinking about it for decades, The American people then came together after the war and after thinking about it and having the Constitution, having. Going around different parts of the country and the colonies and voting on it, weighing and measuring it in the Civil War, all the lead up in the 1840s and the 1850s, getting more violent, more radical. People talking about it and beating each other up here and hitting them with canes. Canaan people on the floor of the Senate, John Brown, you know, potential slave revolts. All of it bloody. Kansas leading up, getting more intense, more bloody. American people waited and measured it. Finally, South Carolina pulled the trigger. American people said, no, we backed Lincoln. We got to put this down for the Union. And then two years later says, it's got to be for more than a union. We have to eradicate human bondage in this republic. We have to do it from 1863 or 18, from January 1863. But after Antietam, American people weighed and measured it. And Lincoln said that. He says, I put the Emancipation Proclamation out there and I let the American people, I let it settle. I let them think about it. And then they voted and they basically voted Lincoln back in. And what was equivalent to a landslide for him and the army is what did it. The people on the battlefield are the ones that drove him over the top. That's what Trump did. Trump four years ago didn't have to do any of this. He came back and what did they do? They tried to strip him of his property and his business, and then they indicted him and they went after him day after day after day. And Andrew Weitzman, all of. And Katie Tur and Nicole Wallace and all msnbc every day. Donald Trump's a dictator. Donald Trump's authoritarian. Donald Trump's a criminal, a common criminal. And what did Trump do? He took it to the American people. And the American people weighed and measured it and thought about it. And what did they do? They returned him in a landslide. That he takes both other parts of the government. He holds the House and takes the Senate. That's what he thought. And brings in working class blacks, working class Hispanics, Muslims. In Michigan, they saw it. They were inundated with it and they thought about it and they rendered a verdict. Trump's verdict was Tuesday, a week ago, and that verdict was that we back him. And so now political class, now globalist, has nothing to do with vengeance whatsoever. The American people have mandated this. The American people want this set right. And the way you set it right, you need instrumentality. President Trump's an instrument of the American people and Matt Gaetz is President Trump's instrument. And coming to the imperial imperial capital and gonna set things right. Short commercial break Darren Beatty and Caroline Wren on the other side. Are you tired of progressive corporations that continue to further alienate conservative Americans, all the while eroding the future of the American dream? Companies like Starbucks strong Army customers to support abortion or PayPal, canceling accounts or political views. Maybelline making a mockery of women by supporting transgender models. And Bud Light forcing gender ideology on you when all you want is to enjoy a cold beer. But thanks to Public Square, you don't have to fund companies like this any longer. 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It's a new day. You work on this audience. You've been here for what, five years now? The work you've done, the victory you made possible, the hard work in being there for some battles that looked impossible. Like I said, it's just starting. But man, it's going to be impressive. I got two of the people that are closest to the worm. The great Darren Beattie from Revolver and Caroline Wren. Caroline, we'll start with you. I'm going to get Darren in Here a second. Caroline, put this in perspective. What has happened really, over the last 72 hours coming out of Mar a Lago, the Winter White House, with President Trump epitomized by the announcement day of Matt Gaetz's attorney general.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

It's just. It is huge. This is the biggest. It was a kind of a surprise for everyone, but it is so important that they just did this. And I love all these media types talking right now about the Senate confirmation hearings are going to be a problem for him. People need to understand the Senate confirmation hearings alone might bring down the doj, because remember, the FBI and doj, they tried to frame Matt Gaetz, The DOJ tried to extort his family, and then the DOJ completely exonerated Matt Gaetz without putting out the evidence that exonerated him. That's the evidence that's gonna come out in his DOJ hearing. So this is the hearing alone, literally will shake up and bring down that agency.

[Steve Bannon]

Just absolutely amazing. Darren Beatty, your first thoughts when you heard this? You've been in the trenches like Caroline with brother Gates for many, many years.

[F]

I couldn't believe it. It was such great news. This is the most important position, and he picked the absolute best guy. That's all you need to say about these appointments. The most important position. He picked the best guy. So I think this bodes very well for the future.

[Steve Bannon]

Why is he. Darren, why is this the most important, and why is he the best guy for the most important.

[F]

Great question. Well, it's the most important because the DOJ is at the center of this very dark theme that really intensified in the Biden administration, which was the weaponization of our government politically in order to go after Trump supporters. There's the national security element, but then there's the corruption of law and order itself in this country, resulting in a lot of very good people being charged with crimes, being convicted of political crimes, even being put in prison, as you know, for nothing. That has to stop. And the place that stops is at the doj. That is the stinkiest, the slimiest, the most disgusting part of the swamp, and it's what needs to be drained in order to restore law and order in the country. Gates is not only a lawyer, not only understands that agency, it's not only a MAGA stalwart, a Trump firebrand from the very beginning, but he himself has been at the receiving end of that very kind of persecution. So what better person to embody all the things that you need to correct an agency like that, to bring it to heel and have the nation heal as law and order is restoring the country rather than the corruption of justice that we've seen under the Biden, really Biden, Harris administration. The DOJ needs to be cleaned out and hopefully we can have someone clean out the DHS as well.

[Steve Bannon]

Very powerful Darren Beatty to bring it to heel and then let the nation heal. So Caroline, how do we actually do that? How do you actually. The confirmation process and the Democrats, you know, you got Murphy up there, they're already setting up for a battle here. You've got a lot of weak willed Republicans. And of course today, you know, the dead hand of McConnell still controls the Senate through John Thune. So walk me through the kind of communication strategy and messaging you have to put forward to make sure that Matt Gates sails through confirmation.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Well, I do think you can afford to lose three and then you have JD Vance as a tie vote. But again, I think this confirmation hearing is going to be critical because this is the same DOJ that exonerated Matt Gaetz. The evidence that they're claiming they're going to put out in this confirmation hearings to try and bring him down is actually what is going to expose how corrupt that they are. And he is. Matt Gaetz is brilliant. He's constantly underestimated. He's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. And so Matt Gaetz knows all these supposed things come out in the confirmation hearings. And so I'm sure if I back Gates, I'm excited about it to go through that process. I actually predict some people are misquoting right now. I saw a lot on Twitter that Susan Collins has already come out as a no. She said she was shocked about the nomination. I'm sure that she is. And she said she'll sure she'll have many more questions, but she has not come out as a firm no. He's gonna go through this process. And I actually predict that he doesn't lose. I mean, maybe you lose Murkowski just because she. You just can't stand Donald Trump. But Matt Gaetz is a master, master chess player here. He is going to be so impressive in these confirmation hearings and then I just cannot wait to see what he does at the doj. You know, I was quietly rooting for Mike Davis, but I'd say this is a pretty damn good alternative to it. I hope that Matt gives Mike the viceroy position that we all know that he deserves, but this is going to be. I cannot wait to watch him just play, just dominate the Senate.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, in the cold open we had Ruben From NBC News, their chief legal correspondent. She. She actually pitched Mike Davis and Mark Paoletta as guys that can get confirmed. She actually said, no, this is what Matt Gaetz does to people. This is how you move. You don't move the Overton window. You shatter the Overton window. She sat there and she's obviously a left winger, but she's pretty reasonable. She said, oh, you know, Mike Davis, guys like Mark Davis, Mark Paoletta worked inside the system years. They could be confirmed. But Matt Gaetz, Pete Hegs. Pete Hegseth, like I said, he makes him look like General Grant. So he's in. Tulsi's in. Gates will get in. But Darren, go back, because this is your. Darren, you have been. You and Raheem have done this job of color revolutions and the deep state and what's going on with Benz and other people. Put in perspective. How important is this to have a guy like Gates who under. This is in his bones, the marrow of his bones, he understands this. Right. How important is this to have a warrior, a fighter, someone who's had his back against the wall? He came here to this building the day he found out about the FBI investigation. We had. We sat down for several hours. And as someone that they've come after, too, hey, when they come after you that first couple hours, it's a gut check. It's a pretty lonely feeling. This is a hero. They tried to destroy him. Destroy him. To send him to prison for many decades. He fought through that. He didn't quit. He didn't surrender. He didn't run away. He didn't cut a deal. He stood on principle. How important is to go after the deep state? Because that's where here's not administrative state. This is deep state work. This is wet work. Right? Yeah. How important is it to have a guy like Gates at this moment in time and for President Trump to send a signal because people say it looks like a bunch of conventional Republicans. Boom. For President Trump to actually make him his attorney general.

[F]

Yep. It's an indispensable element to a successful second term. It's an indispensable element to the deep cleaning of the system that our country needs in order to be set right, in order to genuinely reshape things in such a way that our country is on a positive trajectory as we move through this century. It simply has to happen. The DOJ needs to be cleaned up, and the rest of the national security apparatus needs to be cleaned up. But the DOJ strikes even closer to the heart of the corruption because it's one thing we already kind of know the CIA is going to be corrupt. That's their job. And, you know, same thing more or less with a lot of these kind of intelligence world organizations. But the DOJ is so central to this concept of law and order that Americans, according to our self conception, think of as a distinguishing feature of the United States. That's what makes us a free country as opposed to others. And so the fact that that very concept of law and order, blind justice, not perverting the criminal system, that's what puts us in banana boat territory. Even more so than the CIA doing crazy stuff that it's been doing and the DHS and some of these others, that's very dangerous and serious. But the fact that the Department of Justice, that the justice system itself was so poisoned and so rotten, that's really what made a lot of people, a lot of Americans stop and think and say, we're a banana republic at this point when we're corrupting the justice system to in a petty fashion go after political enemies. If we're on that route, we're on the route to the trash bin. So the DOJ is the epicenter of all of this. And we need an exceptionally capable and courageous person like Matt Gates. He showed us what he's made of. He's been through the trials.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes.

[F]

He showed us what he's made of. And there are actually very few people that really show you what they're made of. Trump has had these moments where you can't fake it. Either you have it or you don't. And you show the nation that through how you behave under extreme stress and duress. He's done that.

[Steve Bannon]

Amen. Amazing. Darren, how do people get to Revolver? How are they following on social media?

[F]

Revolver News, we have a piece up advocating for Scott Besant for Treasury. I encourage everyone to go there and read this. This is going to be another critical appointment because the Fed chair, Powell could be one of the villains coming up and trying to disrupt the agenda in this second term. So I encourage everyone to look at that.

[Steve Bannon]

Revolver News, actually, my producer might jump on you. We may try to get you back in the second hour. The article about Besson, so brilliant. I may want to track you down, if not tomorrow morning. Darren, thank you so much for carving time out on a historic day. I mean, we can't even get to all the news. So much has happened today. Caroline, you know Matt Gaetz personally and he is one of the best examples of. When I say courage is the most important of all virtues, because it is upon courage that all the other virtues. Rest your thoughts on Matt Gaetz, the person and the man.

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

He is a wonderful, wonderful person, but you're right, he's completely unafraid. And Matt Gaetz grew up in a very political family. His father, Don Gates, is a brilliant political operator. So Matt grew up watching this. He knows this business. This is why they underestimate him every time. But Matt, when he goes after something, he gets what he wants. And that's why this pick is so incredible. There will be no more fiercer defender of Donald Trump and more importantly, though, of the rights of we the people. The DOJ has been infringing upon those rights my entire life. And it is going to be so refreshing to actually see someone as brilliant as Matt Gaetz fight for us and we the people and to fight back for those rights of us. And so this is exciting. I want to see Kevin Patel at FBI next. And you know What? Hey, Kevin McCarthy, how do you like them apples?

[Steve Bannon]

Kevin McCarthy goes from Chief of staff with Jeff Miller a week ago, the day after the victory. So a week ago today, Kevin McCarthy is on the short list. And I mean short list. I mean, it's like between him and really, Susie, I always thought that Brooks was kind of a third with Jeff Miller. Jeff Miller, the monster lobbyist, is hanging out in Mar a Lago for days. He goes from that to, I don't know, I don't know, maybe leaving. Maybe he's maybe leaving the country with Weissman. Maybe they get, maybe they book a condo together or an Airbnb in Ibiza or somewhere. Caroline, Red, your social media, I know you're going up nonstop on this. And folks, tonight is going to be all people are going to be on this thing. It's kind of game on now. These confirmation hearings are going to be so massive for Tulsi Gabbard, for Pete Hegseth, for Matt Gaetz, for, I guess Marco Rubio, glide through. But for some of the others that President Trump has, the treasury, that's going to come up probably tomorrow. And the other, you know, the dag, that deputy attorney general, all of it. And Gates is going to have an amazing team. Where do they go for social media, ma'am?

[Mark Wayne Mullen]

Sure. Well, remember, it was the war posse that got the Kevin McCarthy thing done through the app. So Grace better get ready and the war possibly ready to start dialing their senators. This is going to be a fun confirmation. We got to keep the pressure on Caroline Wren on Twitter, get her and Truth Social and let's get these folks through and let's save the country.

[Steve Bannon]

Caroline Wren thank you, ma'am. Good on you. Gates is your nominee. Gates came from the show as a springboard. Short break. Back in a moment. For 10 years, Patriot Mobile has been America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And when I say only, trust me, they're the only one. Patriot Mobile is a proud supporter of the show and I am proud to partner with them. Patriot Mobile offers dependable nationwide coverage giving you the ability to access all three major networks, which means you get the same coverage you've been accustomed to, but without funding the progressive left. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're sending the message that you support free speech, religious freedom, the sanctity of life, second amendment and our military veterans and first responder heroes. Their 100% US based customer service team makes switching easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their team will help you find the best plan for your needs. Just go to patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot get a free month when you use the offer code. Bannon Join me make the switch today. Patriotmobile.com Bannon that's patriot mobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot Action Action Action War.

[Mike Lindell]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Mike Lindell]

Well, Steve, I do want to quick tell you this out here in California and there are a bunch of them that come up to me and they're so happy, you know, that our great real president won. And they brought up, I told them I was going on the war room. They're all pro Trump hope they're part.

[Steve Bannon]

Of the war room policy.

[Mike Lindell]

But none of them want to come on here. They're still, I think, you know, afraid over in California. I know, going on the war room. But people, you know, people are excited. You talk about Matt Gates. That's what they were talking about here. People are excited missing in California so far, you know, what the president's done. And I'm excited about everyone he's picked so far. Less maybe one or two. But you know, you just, you can already see the stuff he's putting into place. You can already. Wow, this is going to manifest to this because he already has such great proof of concept like you said, Steve, in 2018 and 19 where we were, I mean, you talk about all of these, you know, just one thing fixed, like you say, the shipping. You fix the shipping and the cost of shipping out economy, it just everything goes down in price. And I'm excited. You talk about Matt Case getting, you know, the attorney general and all these appointments he's doing. I mean, you got to be excited too. I think everybody's excited. I know they're excited. Out here in California, they're hearing one thing after another. And behold, a white horse.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

Mike Lindell. Love you, brother. We'll see you back here tomorrow morning.

[Mike Lindell]

All right, thanks, Lindell.

[Steve Bannon]

Somebody that put it all on the line. Matt Gaetz put it on the line. Donald Trump put it on the line. I can go down the list. Help. Lindell has been investigated by everybody. Think he's. You think he's a good witness for the weaponization thing. They try to bankrupt him. They've tried to criminalize everything he did. He's got lawsuits all over the place. They're trying to put him out of business. FBI stopped him in a. In a. In a what? An Arby's took his phones. The jackbooted gestapo. It's a new day dawning. And Matt Gaetz is going to get confirmed by the United States Senate and he's going to be Donald Trump's Attorney General of the United States of America. And Matt Gaetz is going to begin a long, multi year process against the globalists, against the deep state, to set things right. Short break. Back in a moment. You owe back taxes, right? Here's the question. Why is the IRS targeting you and not millionaires who owe a fortune compared to you? Rich people have tax attorneys. You probably don't. Tax Network USA are patriots you want on your side to solve your IRS tax problems quickly and painlessly. Their attorneys, strategists and expert negotiators employ brilliant strategies designed to solve your IRS problem quickly in your favor. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which to avoid. And Tax Network USA learned of a.

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