Episode 4056: Not Being Tied To the Conventions Of The Past

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Episode 4056 - Not Being Tied To the Conventions Of The Past

Introduction

In Episode 4056 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the tumultuous political landscape surrounding the nomination of Matt Gaetz for Attorney General. The episode emphasizes a break from traditional political conventions, advocating for a radical overhaul of established institutions to align with populist principles. Through intense discussions with guests Brian Kennedy, Jeff Clark, Peter Navarro, and Mike Lindell, Bannon explores the implications of Gaetz’s potential leadership and the broader movement to reshape American governance.

Matt Gaetz Nomination and DOJ Overhaul

Bannon opens the episode with a critical view of the current media landscape and introduces the central topic: President Donald Trump's selection of Congressman Matt Gaetz as Attorney General (00:01–02:56). He expresses skepticism about Gaetz’s confirmation, highlighting the resistance within the Senate:

Steve Bannon [00:51]: "President elect Donald Trump has selected Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida to serve as Attorney General and lead the Department of Justice. If confirmed by the Senate, he would head the department he has in the past called to be shut down."

Bannon criticizes the Department of Justice (DOJ), referencing past investigations into Gaetz and arguing that Gaetz embodies the disruptive change Trump promised:

Steve Bannon [03:17]: "Also a confirmed Gates would lead the department that once investigated him for sex trafficking... This is what Trump's agenda looks like."

Concerns Over DOJ’s Future Under Gaetz

The conversation intensifies as Bannon and his guests discuss the potential impacts of Gaetz leading the DOJ. They express fears that Gaetz could undermine civil rights protections and weaken institutional checks and balances:

Steve Bannon [05:25]: "It's sickening to think that this person could be in charge of all of the different things that affect Americans across the board. You know, our civil rights."

Guests voice worries about Gaetz’s loyalty to Trump and the possible lack of internal resistance within the DOJ:

Steve Bannon [06:38]: "You'll have Matt Gaetz sitting in the Situation Room having these debates on policy and saying, go ahead, I've got your top cover."

Historical Parallels and Revolutionary Spirit

Bannon draws parallels between the current political climate and historical revolutionary movements, particularly referencing Shakespeare's Henry V to underscore the revolutionary zeal driving the movement:

Steve Bannon [12:08]: "This is a revolutionary moment. There's an Unbroken chain back to the principles and the values from that revolutionary journey."

Guest Insights and Strategic Perspectives

Brian Kennedy’s Revolutionary Analysis (18:06–27:24): Brian Kennedy, a key guest, elaborates on the revolutionary nature of Trump’s nomination choices and the broader strategy to dismantle entrenched bureaucratic structures:

Brian Kennedy [23:36]: "With the right people at the top, I think it's going to be much less difficult than we think."

He emphasizes the need for competence over traditional credentials in rebuilding government agencies:

Brian Kennedy [25:34]: "This could take weeks or months to dismantle if we're smart about it. And we need to be smart, constitutional, and orderly about it."

Peter Navarro’s Endorsement of Gaetz (30:02–34:08): Peter Navarro, another guest, fervently supports Gaetz’s nomination, portraying him as a strategic and aligned choice for Trump’s agenda:

Peter Navarro [32:14]: "Matt Gaetz is a strategic thinker and he brought down Speaker McCarthy... He's just completely aligned with President Trump."

Navarro highlights Gaetz’s role in supporting Trump’s efforts and combating what he perceives as entrenched corruption within the DOJ.

Jeff Clark’s Critique of Established Media and Political Figures (35:01–40:50): Jeff Clark criticizes mainstream media and political figures who oppose Gaetz, labeling them as part of a corrupt establishment:

Jeff Clark [35:01]: "Anything he says that comes out of his mouth has nothing to do with rationality. He's just pissed because Matt Gaetz took that son of a bitch out the door into the trash can of history where he belongs."

Clark underscores the necessity of Gaetz’s role in rooting out corruption and weaponizing lawfare against Trump allies.

Sergio Gore and Administrative Strategies (37:19–42:35): The discussion shifts to personnel strategies within the Trump administration, with Bannon praising Sergio Gore’s role in managing appointments:

Steve Bannon [37:19]: "Sergio Gore is the guy who makes it all happen there."

Jeff Clark anticipates the logistical challenges of staffing the administration, advocating for recess appointments to bypass Senate confirmation hurdles:

Jeff Clark [40:50]: "If you try to get them all done in one year, which Sergio Gore will probably be able to do, it's an even bigger number."

Conclusion: The Revolutionary Path Forward

Bannon wraps up the episode by reinforcing the revolutionary spirit driving the movement to reclaim and reshape American institutions. He acknowledges the challenges ahead but remains optimistic about the ability to mobilize and effect change:

Steve Bannon [43:08]: "This is how you assist getting him a job in the early days of the Trump campaign... These guys are the kind of guys you want in the trenches."

The episode concludes with a call to action for supporters to remain vigilant and committed to the movement’s goals, emphasizing unwavering dedication to defending the Republic and pursuing justice against perceived adversaries.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Steve Bannon [00:51]: "If confirmed by the Senate, he would head the department he has in the past called to be shut down."
• Steve Bannon [05:25]: "It's sickening to think that this person could be in charge of all of the different things that affect Americans across the board."
• Brian Kennedy [23:36]: "With the right people at the top, I think it's going to be much less difficult than we think."
• Peter Navarro [32:14]: "Matt Gaetz is a strategic thinker and he brought down Speaker McCarthy."
• Jeff Clark [35:01]: "He's just pissed because Matt Gaetz took that son of a bitch out the door into the trash can of history where he belongs."

Final Thoughts

Episode 4056 of Bannon’s War Room serves as a fervent discussion on the strategic nomination of Matt Gaetz and the broader efforts to revolutionize American governance. Through passionate dialogues and historical analogies, Bannon and his guests articulate a vision of dismantling entrenched institutions to restore popular sovereignty and constitutional integrity. The episode underscores a pivotal moment in the ongoing political struggle, advocating for decisive action and unwavering commitment to the movement’s revolutionary ideals.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Brian Kennedy]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Steve Bannon]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Brian Kennedy]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Steve Bannon]

Everyone else looked at AG as if they were applying for a judicial appointment. They talked about their vaunted legal theories and constitutional bs. We have a graphic of this. Gates was the only one who said, yeah, I'll go over there and start cutting effing heads. That is according to a Trump adviser. Again, that was from reporter Mark Caputo. So, cutting effing heads, what does that tell you about what kind of Attorney General Matt Gates would be? Well, I think it tells you all you need to know. Look, if Trump was trying to send shockwaves through official Washington, he succeeded. Gates was not on anybody's short list. And from my perspective, it shouldn't be that surprising. Look, Trump campaigned on this platform that he was going to shake up doj, he was going to turn it upside down, he was going to clean house, etc. Etc. And from that perspective, Matt Gaetz is arguably a very logical choice.

[Jeff Clark]

I think it is going to be.

[Steve Bannon]

Difficult to get him confirmed. I think that there are a lot of Republicans who either publicly or privately harbor serious doubts about this nomination. If you have reached out to us since the election and though many were disappointed by the results, you've let us know you appreciated our reporting and the reporting of those results in a calm and measured way. We have been especially thankful for the kind words we've received from those who voted for President Trump, and we're going to continue our best efforts to be fair and objective in reporting on the incoming administration. Now, unfortunately, the next story does involve us personally a bit, but we still give you the facts while remaining object. So here they are. President elect Donald Trump has selected Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida to serve as Attorney General and lead the Department of Justice. If confirmed by the Senate, he would head the department he has in the past called to be shut down. I don't care if it takes every.

[Brian Kennedy]

Second of our time and every ounce of our energy. We either get this government back on.

[Steve Bannon]

Our side or we defund and get.

[Brian Kennedy]

Rid of abolish the FBI, cdc, atf.

[Steve Bannon]

Doj, every last one of them if they do not come to heal.

[Brian Kennedy]

And I don't think it's too much to ass.

[Steve Bannon]

Also a confirmed Gates would lead the department that once investigated him for sex trafficking. In late 2020, the FBI started investigating allegations that Gates was involved in the trafficking of a 17 year old girl. At the core of the case was testimony from a former Gates associate who is now serving an 11 year prison sentence for several federal crimes, including trafficking. But the investigation into Gates ended in February of 2023 with no charges filed. Gaetz abruptly announced he was resigning from Congress yesterday after Trump posted the AG nomination on social media. Multiple media outlets reported yesterday the House Ethics Committee was set to vote this week on releasing a report about him. Quoting from the Washington Post, Gates has been under investigation by the bipartisan committee for allegations that he may have eng in sexual misconduct, illegal drug use and accepted improper gifts. So if Trump keeps doing this, there's two direct impacts. Number one, he is losing his House Republican majority. It's crazy to say that he is going to nominate the House Republicans into the minority if he's not careful, mike Johnson said last night. I've told him it's enough already. You can't keep nominating House Republicans for administration positions or else we will be in the minority and you will no longer have all branches of government. That's number one. Number two, if he does, if he puts forward these picks that are so problematic, it's going to just eat up valuable Senate time. And a lot of Republicans complained that the first hundred days of the last Trump administration were wasted. And that is true. They didn't get much done in those first hundred days and they want to take advantage of these hundred days. If you waste your time on stunts like this, you're going to just be really behind the eight ball in getting an actual agenda enacted, which he may or may not care about. But traditional presidents would care about that. You know, nightmare with me, how, how.

[Brian Kennedy]

Much damage could he theoretically do?

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, it's sickening to think that this person could be in charge of all of the different things that affect Americans across the board. You know, our civil rights. What's he going to do when hate crimes happen? What's he going to do when we have the rise of hate across the country that we're seeing every Single day. Even more so now when some of these people are emboldened to carry out these acts. What's going to happen in that situation? What's going to happen with checks and balances when someone in the administration tries to skirt the rule of law? Those were numerous situations that happened during my tenure in the White House, during my tenure in the Trump administration. There were even things that were. Bill Barr held the line. Right. There were other people in the room. So we don't have that. So picture this now. It's Matt Gaetz sitting in the Situation Room having these debates on policy and saying, go ahead, I've got your top cover. I've got your back. That is what many of us were warning about. Yeah, this is the worst case scenario, to be honest. And I think Glenn is right. I've worked with a lot of the people at DOJ and the people that serve in the FBI under doj. I mean, this is just really alarming. And I wonder whether there'll be mass resignations. And that really actually worries me even more so because what does that department.

[Brian Kennedy]

Look like going forward?

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, we want the mass resignation. So let's get on that. We're going to have. We're gonna have. Okay, we're gonna have mass declassification of documents. We're gonna have mass deportations of illegal alien invaders, and we're gonna have to have mass resignations. Go ahead. Permission. Granite. Resign, baby. Take all your kind with you. All of it. This roll. No whinging. It's amazing what a lack of. What's been interesting to see is how they can't. They are like spoiled children. This comes from the credential class. They've really never had to work for anything. They've never had tough jobs. They've never had to sacrifice anything. And you see how they. You know, it's the typical kids that get the soccer trophies for coming in last, but you get a participation trophy. So the participation crowd doesn't know how to handle things. One thing we know is that in throwing the toys out of the pram that they have abandoned MSNBC and cnn. I think the most coverage of Morning Mika is getting now is obviously with the War Room, because we love Morning Mikael, but they're not handling this well. And that's great because they have one of the most smartest articles I saw, said, hey, for years, they handled their voters as groups and not as individuals. Didn't talk to them as people about what their aspirations were and how they wanted to get, you know, what their journey through this life was going to be like. And how in making society more productive, you can make it wealthier and spread that wealth out to people so that you had a capitalist system with everybody, every man a capitalist, every woman, too. They didn't do that. You see this kind of. Was it in Kuwait? This whole discussion, we monitor it pretty closely. They have hard work. They have a decade or more. Because I've said for years and years and years, we've had the civil war on our side of the table, and now we're dominant and ascendant with President Trump. But the war we've had between the grassroots and the grassroots conservatives and the Tea Party against the established order, the Republicans, the rhinos, the money, the lobbyists, the donors, you know, we haven't totally won. Let me pull, let me go back to the Financial Times. Republicans snub Trump allies by electing Thune as leader. That was a loss. And Cornyn's out there right now saying he's got to go through that report on Matt Gaetz in detail the process. Cornyn's out there. Every in Texas remember it. Cornyn, you either get with the program, brother. Are you going to finish third in your primary that I guarantee you people in Texas not going to tolerate the same way they didn't. We didn't tolerate you trying to, you guys trying to turf out you personally trying to turf out Paxton. Jeff Clark, your thoughts and observations. Sir, you were a senior. You were a senior under one of the worst attorney generals, Bill Barr. You were one of the senior folks over at justice in a Justice Department that never got its act together from the bar perspective. You did a great job. Tell us what the meaning and purpose of the Gates nomination to be Attorney General of the United States is.

[Peter Navarro]

Sir, I think that the nomination of Matt Gaetz to be Attorney General is truly inspired, Steve. It's an excellent pick. It shows President Trump's visionary nature, and it shows that President Trump needs to pick and knows how to pick leaders. Right. And, you know, I'm gonna try to outdo you a little bit here on your erudition. I heard you talking about the Bonhomme Richard with John Paul Jones. You know, I've just begun to fight. So what I want to talk about in terms of Matt Gaetz, and he really does remind me of this is the St. Crispin's Day speech from Shakespeare's Henry V, right before the Battle of Agincourt where the British are, you know, massively outnumbered by the French, but they wind off, wind up pulling off a massive victory it's just a very inspiring speech. It's got this famous line of, you know, we few, we happy few, we band of brothers. That's the kind of inspiration that Matt Gaetz can give to the Justice Department to lead it into a new era and a new era of cleaning out the institution which is infected in various, you know, different ways. You know, putting it back on the straight and narrow, putting the FBI back on the straight and narrow, working with President Trump's future nominee to head the FBI and get rid of Christopher Wray. And, you know, what's the. Who is St. Crispin, right? He is the patron saint. He was a weaver. And what's been weaved over the last four years and even, you know, under President Trump by traders inside the Justice Department, a lot of lies, a lot of schemes like Russiagate. But what Matt Gaetz is going to help lead is to weave it back into a consistent fabric, a fabric of American law, a fabric of equal protection of the laws. Steve. And I just could not be more over the moon about the inspired nature of President Trump's pick in tapping Matt Gaetz to head up that department that, you know, I've spent so much of my career in.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the difference between Harvard College and Harvard Business School. Clark is actually educated. I want to go to that speech from Shakespeare, Henry V, because I think for the audience, and maybe even a more phrase is when he talks about those who are not here on the battlefield with us will regret this for the rest of their lives. Right. Remember, they say that line, I think, predicates the band. It's the lead into the band of brothers. What he says is that those that sleep, I think, in safe beds or whatever, that are not here on the battlefield with us will regret this the rest of their lives. Because this is a unique moment in history, of English history. Is that not correct, Jeff?

[Peter Navarro]

That is correct, Steve. And one of the other aspects of the speech that I'd call to your attention, it sounds a lot like a Steve Bannon. Right? And I can also hear it coming from a Matt Gaetz, you know, like, don't let the door hit you on the way out. You know, he says to the troops, look, if you want out of here, if you don't want to fight this battle with me because you think the odds are too high, I'll pay your freight to get back to England. And so just go. And, you know, you can imagine if there's a commander like that and he's telling you that, look, you're going to regret this. For your entire life if you do that. But I'll facilitate you leaving us if you really are cowardly like that. But I'm calling on you to realize that what's going to happen in future Saint Crispin's Day, after we win this battle with a smaller group, and then if there's a smaller group, we're all going to get more honor, is when people come to Saint Crispin's Day, you're going to roll up your sleeves and you're going to show them your battle scars. Of these are the scars that I got on Saint Crispin's Day.

[Steve Bannon]

That's exactly what this moment is. That's exactly what this moment is. This moment is a unique time in history for this republic and it's going to go one way or the other. Yes, we just won a massive landslide victory and I would love to be able to tell you that President Trump's going to be able to take his magic wand out and just wave it. It's all going to be better. It's not. This is a struggle every day. Do you see it? Why is that? Because now you've breached their ramparts. And unwashed masses, just like Jackson of populism back in, what, the 1830s, you're actually close to seizing the institutions and making this revolution permanent. And they understand that one of the most unique moments in the history of this republic is before us. And you, audience, are one of the protagonists. You're one of the drivers of the action. Short break Clark and the elites are getting desperate. They now want to use the technology behind Bitcoin for their own Orwellian purposes. Their goal, to dominate our economy by forcing everyone to use central bank digital currencies, which they control. Imagine your every purchase being called into question, your every move tracked like you live in a communist country. This is not the America we want, but it is the America they want to create. Fortunately, you can fight back. I believe owning gold is the best solution. Why? Because it keeps you in control and safeguards your savings. Plus, with a gold IRA from Birch Gold, you can move your IRA or 401k into physical gold without paying any taxes or penalties. To learn more, get a free info kit by going to Birchgold. That's birchgold.com Bannon Birchgold is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings. Let me repeat that. Birchgold Group is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings. So take a stand right now. Go to birchgold.com bandit and get your free info kit on Gold IRA here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Two things on the financial side. Remember, if you've gotten a letter from the irs, don't put it in a drawer. If you put it in a drawer, doesn't mean that it doesn't metastasize. It is every day the penalties and the fees grow and the interest. It's a process and you have to engage in the process. There's not an option of not engaging in process because they are. It's the irs. They're going to get something. So it's just the size of the something they get, the way that you get professional help to walk you through what your alternatives are and what the process is. AS Tax Network USA, go to tnusa.com Bannon It's a very simple way that you fill out a little bit of paperwork to see if it even makes sense for you to talk to one of their advisors. And the initial advice is totally free. So go ahead, talk to them today. If you got it. Don't be anxious. Fear not. Trust the process with an advisor. Don't, whatever you do, don't just call. Once you call, you're locked into the system. Call Tax Network USA first. Walk through it and then make your decision. But do it today. Also, Birch Gold, we give you access to Philip Patrick and team. There's going to be a lot of turbulence here. The world's got, I don't know, $300 trillion in debt at all levels. I keep saying we're about to have the world's largest margin call. It's going to happen. Go to Birchgold. They can get, they have all the alternatives for the IRAs, the 401ks, all of it. It's too complicated for me. It makes my brain hurt. But they know it backwards and forward, forwards. So go talk to them. Philip Patrick and Theme birchgold.com ban go check it out. Today. Brian Kennedy joins us. So I'm kind of outnumbered. I got two of the smartest guys in the two of the best educated, smartest guys in the Mega Man. In fact, Kennedy, you're actually a Ph.D. i should call you Dr. Kennedy, correct?

[Brian Kennedy]

No, actually, I never finished any of that. So I'm just Mr. Kennedy O'Brien to the audience. But I was enjoying the Henry V discussion there. And it's important to remind the posse that at the time of the American Revolution, Shakespeare was more widely read in the colonies than it was in England. And all of Shakespeare's work had a profound impact on how the American colonists thought about these things. And everybody wants to remember the Saint Christmas Day speech. But the interesting speech, I think, as well, was the night before. A Touch of Harry in the Night is called, where the King goes around to the campfires of all the soldiers the night before the battle, and he talks to them and he's trying to feel what they're thinking about the next day. And they have this conversation where he says, well, we all owe our allegiance to the King, but each man's soul is his own. And he tells his soldiers that they don't know it's him. He's wearing a cloak and he's concealed from them. But they all agree each of their soul is their own. And for many Americans, when they read that at the time of the revolution, they saw that what we're fighting for here is the freedom of each individual to live as a free man or a free woman. And the next day, when he gives the Saint Crispin Day speech, he's saying that to them as free men. Of course, he's the king and they're his servants, but he is establishing in the minds of the British people who are going to read this play that there's a natural right to live as a free man and woman. And that really is the thing you are fighting for. And that had a profound effect on the colonists, and it should have a profound effect on every American today, because I think we're living through a second American Revolution where Americans have thought that we're the sovereign here in this country. We're going to govern ourselves, and we're going to have champions like Donald Trump and champions like Steve Bannon, and they're going to fight for us, and we're going to fight with them to take this country back. So I'm glad you mentioned the Crispin Day speech, because I do think it has an important impact on the American people.

[Steve Bannon]

Tell me about this moment in time. You're very well educated, you know history for this audience, their role in it. How important is this?

[Brian Kennedy]

Well, I think it is a revolution. I think the nomination of Gates says that we're not going to be wed to those conventions in the past where we are going to have. We're going to hire this person because they have this pedigree and they have these establishment credentials. President Trump is throwing all of that out the window. He's going to find the best man or woman for the job. He's going to put them in that spot. They're going to defend the Constitution, they're going to defend popular sovereignty. And by popular sovereignty, it's our country. We're going to defend those ideas and we're not going to live as we did in the past, where you have this bureaucracy that's going to run the lives of the American people that's going to be taken apart. It'll be taken apart constitutionally in an orderly fashion. But we're going to remake this country to the constitutional order it was meant to be. And I will say, Steve, I was at a big dinner last night in Washington with Encounter Books, Roger Kimball, great group of people. And traditionally, over the years, they've been more establishment types. Conservatives, sure, but establishment conservatives. What you saw last night were smiles on everyone's faces. Maka was living and breathing in the room, in the hearts and minds of these folks. They see that we have a new opportunity to dismantle the very thing that has been undermining American freedom. And let me add, Steve, this is the first time I've been on the show since you've been back from prison. I had a dozen people come up to me. They all asked how you were. They all said to say thank you to you, that a lot of people talk big talk, but you actually went to prison for your principles and the amount of appreciation the American people have for that. And especially those conservatives in the room last night, I don't think you're going to hear those things. I wanted you to know about that because after President Trump had the election stolen In November of 2020, the War Room was the rallying point for the entire movement. Yes, we still had President Trump, but without the war room, the movement would have, at least for a time, fallen apart. It didn't. And it didn't because of you, Steve. And everyone knows and should know that the thanks we owe you is tremendous. And I don't think it gets said enough, and I know you don't like these kind of things, but I think it's important for everyone to remember just how vital you have been to this entire cause and to the entire victory President Trump had. That's what I think about this moment.

[Steve Bannon]

Look, thank you for the kind words. But what happened was that if we had not had. And that's why the St. Crispin going through the campfires the night before and then the day of the battle is actually important. And how it had a powerful impact onto the colonists at the time and the revolutionary generation. This is. And it's taking. We have public intellectuals like Brian Kennedy and Jeff Clark to help guide us here. But back then, this is a revolutionary moment. There's no doubt in an Unbroken chain back to the principles and the values from that revolutionary journey. It was the audience. Here's the amazing thing on Tuesday, the educated classes, the people that actually have had the opportunity to go to colleges and, you know, read Henry V or take a class about Shakespeare's plays. Not that they do that anymore, because that's white privilege. Right. That credentialed class. The credentialed class, which are really the plantation. They're the ones, the slave masters, Right. The overseers. They're the overseers in the Gulag that's driven by these. By these billionaires. We got a referendum put up. And this audience being a cadre, a vanguard, and then doing all this massive work on the mass mobilization is incredible. That's the victory. I mean, but our work is not done, as you knew. Brian, how tough is it going to be for us to seize the institutions and then to remake them so that they comport with the founding spirit of this nation? Sir, on coming close to the 250th anniversary of the shot heard around the world at Lexington and Concord.

[Brian Kennedy]

Sir, you know, with the. Thanks, Steve. With the right people at the top, I think it's going to be much less difficult than we think. That Machiavelli says, do the painful things first. And so the painful things will be to dismantle the bureaucracy, dismantle them, and then rebuild them. But the one thing I think President Trump is not going to be wed to this time are these credentials. Like we mentioned a PhD earlier, one reason I didn't get a PhD is that a close friend of mine with a PhD said, that's the credential of the administrative state. Why do you need that? As we're rebuilding this government, we actually don't worry so much about PhDs and credentials from the Washington establishment. But the competency of whether or not men and women can actually rebuild the constitutional order within these agencies. I mean, some of these agencies shouldn't exist, of course, but the Department of Agriculture, what does it do? What should it do? It need not do very much, it seems to me, or the Department of Education, if we even keep that, or the Department of Commerce. This is meant to be a limited constitutional government. And for everyone who says, well, you know, it took 100 years to build this bureaucracy, it's going to take decades to dismantle. That's totally wrong. This could take weeks or months to dismantle if we're smart about it. And we need to be smart, constitutional, and orderly about it. Look, when President Trump talks about Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy being head of this efficiency agency. Great. Have that attitude. What should our government really be doing? This is either a revolution or it's not. And I believe fully that it is under President Trump.

[Steve Bannon]

Brian, where do people. Where do people go on social media to get you?

[Brian Kennedy]

Brian T. Kennedy on Getter and Brian T. Kennedy one on X. Thank you, Steve. Great to have you back.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Thanks for the kind words, as undeserved as they are, but thank you. Clark's going to stick with me. Navar's going to come on. We're going to deconstruct how we get Gates across the goal line. Also going to talk a little bit about the head of personnel. A vitally important billet. As the New York Times said last night, low profile but quite powerful. All necks in the war room. I've been telling you about cyber scammers who try to steal Graceland. The FBI calls this house stealing and it's a real threat. If you own a home or any real estate, pay close attention. When was the last time you checked the title to your home? With an average of 90% of your net worth in your home, criminals are targeting homeowners like never before. They can transfer your home title, take out loans in your name and leave you with a financial nightmare. Act now to protect your home's equity with triple lock protection from home title lock. Go to hometitlelock.com Enter your address and find out if your title is still in your own name. Use promo code Bannon to get a complete title scan and your first 30 days of protection free. That's 30 days of free protection and peace of mind. Do not wait. Take action right now to protect your most valuable asset. Visit hometitlelock.com and use promo code Bannon. That's home title lock.com promo code. Ban it. Please do this today. But except one. Look. Gates won't get confirmed. Everybody knows that. But when you look at a Rubio, just the knowledge that he has being in the intel committee. I was on the Gang of eight and his understanding, even when you listen to the other side of the aisle, they say he'll make a great Secretary of State. So that's strong for me. A waltz. Just his background from a Green Beret and others being the But John Radcliffe at CIA, former dni, that's very strong. And the difference is to what was eight years ago today. President Trump understands the job. He knows the people that he needs around him to get there. And I think he's going to be much better prepared because he only has one term but he'll, he'll hit the ground running this time.

[Jeff Clark]

You say Gates will not be confirmed. Why bother with the nomination then?

[Steve Bannon]

You can talk to president. But it's a good, it's a good deflection from others. But it also gives. I'll let it stand with that. Within a week. Yeah, it was within a week. So we know this. The Wall Street Journal said bad choice. Senator Joni Ernst says he's got a lot of work to do. Senator Lisa Murkowski says not a serious candidate. So we'll see. This is going to be Senator Thune. And how hard is Senator Thune going to work? This is going to be the toughest nomination to get through out of all the picks so far. Absolutely. Well, I think we can all agree he has good hair. A lot of good hair. And he was solely responsible for blowing up the House last year.

[Jeff Clark]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

And he had no plan to do the next day. He just had a personal Vendetta against Kevin McCarthy. So that was pretty evident. Kilmeade, you're dumb as a stick. We understand that. That's the Murdoch's right there. And that's their little running puppy, Kilmeade. Murdoch's are on notice. Fox comes out and you got McCarthy all that. Hey McCarthy. For the only time in the history of this republic you were fired. And you're fired because of the financial fiasco we're going to have to face at the beginning of President Trump's second term. The deal that you gave Wall street and Silicon Val and all the donors uncapped two year debt ceiling. Brother Warren posse knows this working class blue collar people, middle class folks. We get it. We get the games. Murdoch's you're on notice. You, you, you get. We'd have the constant thing war room will take you on again and we'll beat you again because you're not that first of. You're not bright, you're not tough, you're not organized. The Murdochs are a poison. They are a poison and they use little running dogs like Kilmeade. I mean look at Gates. You know, he was totally disorganized. He wasn't disorganized. Look, when the hell that at least we achieved what Gates, what McCarthy had done as your mouthpiece in the Wall Street Journal's mouthpiece. Let's have the Wall Street Journal. They're talking about debt every day. Oh my gosh. Debt, deficit, all of it. You gotta stop it somehow. Jeff Clark Your thoughts, sir? I know you get a punch out.

[Peter Navarro]

Sure, Steve. Look, Matt Gaetz is a strategic thinker and he brought down Speaker McCarthy. Right, by mastering the rules and mastering the process. And you can tell that McCarthy is still smarting about that. He's gonna smack talk him and everyone is presuming that there's gonna be a huge confirmation fight. Look, if Republicans approve people like Lisa Monaco and Merrick Garland to run the Justice Department, they can surely approve Matt Gaetz, who's a brilliant, accomplished lawyer in his own right, great congressional career, and, you know, but even if he did run into something that was tough there, the President has the Gordian knot cutter, Steve. He has the recess appointment power. He can ensure that he can get the people he wants to run his cabinet. And, you know, the Attorney General position goes all the way back to Washington's government. And the idea that President Washington couldn't pick his own Attorney General would be crazy. And I think that Matt Gaetz is going to get through one way or another. And that's what they're angry about. And look, I testified to Matt Gaetz. He's the only member of Congress who set up a field hearing to help the January Sixers. Right? So he's just completely aligned with President Trump and he knows what time it is and he's going to be an aggressive Attorney general.

[Steve Bannon]

Where did they go to get you at CRA and your social media?

[Peter Navarro]

Sure. So social media is Jeff Clark us at Xngater and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social. And the center is americarenewing.com Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you for doing this. Thank you. And we'll look forward to see where you land in the Justice Department. Yes. Let's put the mainstream media on notice. The return of Jeff Clark. Brother. Honored to have you on here, sir.

[Peter Navarro]

Thank you. Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Navarro. First, I want you to respond to the McCarthy and Murdochs. The Murdochs have put their thumb on the scale. They don't like Gates. They hate Gates because they lost when we had to go mano mano with Fox and the Murdochs, as you guys remember back in was it 23 in September 23rd, War Room won. They lost and Gates took down McCarthy and they're still chapped about that. Well, hey, you're gonna have to live with it, okay? But I don't wanna see all day up there banging, getting corn in and banging on Gates all day long. Because this is what they're gonna try to do. This is what they're gonna try to do. And it should be game over for the guys at the Wall Street Journal and have been dead wrong on everything. And the Murdochs. Your thoughts, Dr. Peter, a little bit of that clip.

[Jeff Clark]

Well, I'm talking here because, like, Kevin went kind of from the Wall street slick do to a little punk look like a la, like London or something like that. Looking very, very slick. It's a blood feud with McCarthy and Gates. Anything he says that comes out of his mouth has nothing to do with rationality. He's just pissed because Matt Gaetz took that son of a bitch out the door into the trash can of history where he belongs. And I hope the boss notes the smack that McCarthy's talking now about. One of Donald Trump's best picks so far. Matt Gaetz knows more about what was done to Donald Trump in this country using weaponized lawfare than anybody on Capitol Hill. There is no better person than Matt Gaetz to put in charge at the Department of Justice to root out all this corruption and weaponization. And we just need to get behind him and make sure that it happens. And Steve, yesterday we talked about, like, if the Senate is going to block Donald Trump's cabinet, he's going to block the agenda. That's kind of where this is going. I want to celebrate today the announcement of Sergio Gore as the personnel director. This is brilliant. I got to know Sergio actually through you when you introduced him to me to publish the book the new MAGA deal that's winning strategies 45. It's Don Jr. S book. This guy, I've known him now for a bit over a year. He's the most amazing guy I've ever seen in terms of how he handles himself in Washington. He has no ego. All he cares about is helping Donald Trump and moving forward. The agendabriliant. Soft spoken. He invited me to Mar a Lago the night of the election to a special dinner inside the big events at Mar a Lago where he.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, because. Hold up, don't bury the lead. The lead is when your publisher pulled the publication of the new MAGA deal, which is the blueprint for what we're doing, Sergio stepped into the breach and we had that book published, I think with a Ford by President Trump or introduction by President Trump, because it's Don Jr. I think it had a Sergio's publishing company.

[Jeff Clark]

And look, here's the thing. Personnel is policy. This goes back to Reagan, the book I wrote that you had something to do getting published in Trump time. The whole thing is bad. Personnel is not just bad policy, but it's bad politics. And one of the Problems we had in that first term was just having a lot of deadwood in there who would slow down the Trump agenda because they thought they were better than they thought they got elected. So Sergio Gore, let me tell. Add that to the list the bosses made.

[Steve Bannon]

Let me tell you how. Let me tell this work at the beginning of the Tea Party movement, which Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann were the touchdown twins in the right of the financial crisis 16 years ago. I think in the 2008, 2009 timeframe, I met two young. Michelle Bachman's staff, I think was Sergio Gore and Stephen Miller. And eventually we got them situated. They got themselves to move from the house. She was on fire, but going to run for president. They went to the Senate. Miller went to Jeff Sessions and became the firebrand that he is today. And trying to stop the, not trying to. We stopped all the amnesty stuff, you know, battle after battle after battle. When Stephen was there and came to prominence, and that's how we assisted getting him a job in the early days of the Trump campaign in 2015, then as a speechwriter and then a policy guy. Sergio went to the great Rand Paul. So These guys have 16 years of us working together. And you know, Peter from the 16 Campaign, you've been with us for like 10 years or so. These guys are the kind of guys you want in the trenches. The Sergio Gores and the Stephen Millers, they will get down to the treasure. Totally different. They got different styles. But when you say fixed bayonets, those two brothers will fix bayonets. Okay? And hey, that's, that's the moment we're in. Sergio Gordon, he's so low key at being in personnel because he also, having been with us for 16 years. 16 years. He knows everybody. You can't run and hide from him. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jeff Clark]

Numbers for you, because you have to. As we talked about yesterday, you pointed out, 4,000 people have to be put in to the Trump administration, have to be put through Sergio Gore's personnel office with Donald Trump looking at every one of them. Right. A thousand of them require confirmation. 3000 don't. If you just do the math, do you know how many people have to be run through that process every single day? If you try to get them all done in two years, it'd be a big number. If you try to get them done in one year, which Sergio Gore will probably be able to do, it's an even bigger number. Think about that. 4,000 people got to get hired and they all got to be vetted. And a Thousand of them have to go through the Senate. Good luck with that. That's why we need a recess appointment.

[Steve Bannon]

INTERLUDE well, the target, the hang on the target job, it's a huge. The target, I hear. And Taylor, which is going to obviously be the, the deputy chief of staff on this. But here's, here's the drill of the 3,000 that can get on the landing teams, the beach hit teams, all that. The 3,000 that don't have to be Senate confirmed. My understanding is that the most it's ever hit the deck plates at the beginning of administration is like a thousand. And I think their target is to try to get us, you know, Trump wants to set a record, but make sure they're all quality people. This is my point about 16 years of Miller and Sergio working together, knowing each other. Sergio knows he's very low key, but he knows everybody. Right. There's not going to be any surprises that gets in.

[Jeff Clark]

Taylor was McEntee. Johnny McEntee was there and Johnny, I love that guy. The first term he got the personnel office together finally in the last year of the administration. And Taylor was there to help him run it through the door so they know how to get it done. The assembly line would be going like this under Sergio Gore and the boss will be going, okay, okay.

[Steve Bannon]

What?

[Jeff Clark]

No, don't. Okay. And it all be Donald Trump because he's ultimately the commander in chief and he gets involved. But Sergio has a very special relationship with him. And Don Jr. Don't forget, it's Don Jr's publishing house and Sergio is the guy who makes it all happen there.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, where do they go get the book? Because the new maga, if we want to see who this is going economically, get the new mega deal. And by the way, tariffs. All I'm hearing is tariffs, protectionism. Navarro's at the center of that. We're waiting for the announcement on Navarro. Peter, social media, where do people follow you?

[Jeff Clark]

100 actions in 100 days. Newmagadeal.com newmagadeal.com you can get the book on Amazon as well, but nicely to see the war room get out there and spike some sales there. Only because we need to get the message out of what Donald Trump is actually going to do to further the Trump agenda as he promised. Got a lot of work here, Steve, but Sergio.

[Steve Bannon]

Doctor. See, I gotta go, but I was gonna test Dr. Navarro on Saint Crispin's down Henry V since he's a Harvard guy.

[Brian Kennedy]

Also.

[Steve Bannon]

Dr. Navarro. Thank you, brother. Love you. Short break. Back in the world. To the debug. I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money in our bank accounts. First, think back to 9, 11, shortly after the government pushed through the Patriot Act. This gave the government power to spy on innocent Americans by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across the Internet. Now Jim Rickards, editor of the independent financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence and New York Times best selling author, is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level. In fact, some of the guests I've had on the War room believe that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move. If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote maga, the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts. I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning. Fortunately, Jim Rickards, an American patriot and friend of mine, has made it his mission to educate us on what he believes is coming and how to protect yourself from the possibility of programmable money. Watch Jim's morning video now censored like I've been in the past. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's rickardswarroom.com now. Go. Bags, passports, foreign assets. Preparing to be a target of Trump's revenge. Some prominent critics of Donald Trump and those he has vilified as deep state saboteurs are taking seriously his vow of retribution. Folks, when you guys came after us, did you see us cut and run and leave this country and not leave the fight? This is the difference between us and you. We not even just love this country. This country, we have an obligation and a duty to this republic, in this country, to the unbroken chain of people that have made it the greatest nation on earth. We have an obligation. We have a fiduciary responsibility. And we will never, ever, ever run and we will never leave and we will never quit and we will never stop fighting. I tell you, if you're not prepared to go to prison, then step back and let's get next man up and look at them. All the articles about this Washington Post, which I'll go through this afternoon. This is why you people, I find revolting. You sit there and you grind people to dust. You got a thousand people in jail from J6 in prison. You got these people playing in front of Rosary, in front of, in prison, in front of the abortion centers, the murder factories. You got, you got Tina Peters in jail, prison for nine years. You got these women, 70 years old that prayed the rosary in prison. Oh, you're damn good about putting the jackboot on somebody's neck. But when the table gets turned, what's the first thing you do? You run. This is why I find you revolting and disgusting. And we will never stop until we bring you to justice. So when you get that passport and you get your foreign assets, you get your go bag, make sure you go to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the United States of America. Because we will go throughout the world to track you down and bring you back to stand, stand before the American people and have justice served. This is why I find you revolting when you're in charge. Oh, it's great. You're going to crush people. Take their bank accounts, credit cards, all of it. Try to put Mike Flynn in jail. Look at the people they try to put in prison or put in prison. You're revolting and we're going to grind you to dust. So get your go bag and get your passport and get your foreign asset, get your assets out of the country and get your asses out of here. You're revolting. You're not worthy. You're not a worthy opponent. I want to see some people are going to stand and fight. You want to convince the American people to give it back to you. You got to stand and fight. But you don't. Because you are the worst of the worst. You're gutless cowards that hid behind state power. And this is why I said from the beginning that we will win because we're relentless. We love this country and we will never give up on her. We have a obligation, a sacred bond to every patriot's grave, back to the beginning of this republic. And we had an individual that showed the greatest courage in American history and that's Trump. And you hate him and you despise him, but you don't understand him and you don't get him. And the working class in this country do. The credentialed class don't. You are not worthy. You are not worthy to run this country. You're not worthy to have the levers of power of this greatest nation in the history of mankind. You're not worthy. You're not. You're not worthy. Mike Lindell, thoughts?

[Mike Lindell]

Well, Steve, you said it said. I mean, I wish, wish you had you on my call the other night. And we have though we broke through the biggest cover up of the biggest crime in history that man has ever known. They're trying to take our country and they've been trying it for quite a while now and to destroy it. And they don't love our country. They, in fact they hate it. And I see it, it is everything you just named there from the attacks on, you know, for myself personally, every day, like I told the media, you attacked me. Every day for three and a half years you've attacked my company. These USA employees that work hard every day. They have families. I was the media's darling before all this started. And you're attacking why? Because I want to secure our elections. And I believe in one of the greatest presidents in the history of the world that we've had. He had proof of concept and the media stood there and I've got six calls today already this morning and they asked and just stupid questions and I'm going, you guys, why don't you go after the people that maybe did this? You know, like maybe instead of going after mypillow as a company, why don't you go after these electronic voting machine companies and say hey, maybe there was something there. Hello, how do you explain this, these things now? And Steve, it's all coming down. It's all, I really believe that over the next three, four months here things are just going to even open up even further in and we're on the other side of winning now. And we had to break through the COVID up. We had to break cover up. And your voice, your voice was huge. I mean played the war room here. The, this show was the driving force behind it. You know I wanted, I don't know if you remember Steve, but back in 21 when I was sounding the alarm, it was a, they were the show that would take me on. I couldn't go on Fox. I couldn't go on Newsmax. That's how you silence voices. And so I want to, I want to thank the war room posse. I want to thank you, Steve. You've kept my pillow going, you kept our country going, you kept our voice out there and expanded on it. And, and one of the things that right away the president's going to do and I've said it before, bring down shipping prices, which brings down costs. But we want to thank the war room. They're the reason for that of getting him in. So you're going to get free shipping on your entire order, everybody. Free shipping only for the war room. And we got the flannel sheets that all came in, you guys love it said give them to the war room posse where we have a very limited supply. You save up like for over $40 a set 59.98. For the as low as 59.98. Go to the website, go down to your CC, click on our fearless leaders. Click on his square there. And there you have it. The flannel sheets. Free shipping on your entire order. You got the mattress toppers. These employees, they make the mattress toppers 100% in USA in the beds, Mike.

[Steve Bannon]

So thank Steve and thank you war.

[Mike Lindell]

Room policy and let's keep going. We will never get.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you brother. We, we don't need no stinking silk sheets. That's for the credential class. We want good flannel sheets. Good flannel sheets like I used to sleep as a kid. Thank you brother. Appreciate you. Charlie Kirk is next. I think we're going go through a little turbulence. Hey, by the way, note to the people leaving the country. Birchgold.com don't take assets over there. Load yourself up with gold. Birchgold.com Bannon check out the end of the dollar empire. Do it today. Talk to Philip Patrick IRAS 401ks. All of it too complicated for me. Makes my brain hurt. But they explain it to you. We're back here at 5:00. Natalie win is going to join me. Charlie Kirk is not poso after that. See you back here at 5.

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