Episode 4057: RFK Is Appointed Head Of HHS

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room - Episode 4057: RFK Is Appointed Head Of HHS

Introduction

In Episode 4057 of "Bannon's War Room," host Stephen K. Bannon discusses the groundbreaking appointment of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) as the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). The episode delves into the potential implications of this appointment, featuring insights from medical experts, political analysts, and key figures within the MAGA movement. The discussion also addresses the broader impact on public health policies, the administrative state, and ongoing political dynamics in the United States.

RFK Jr.'s Appointment: Breaking News and Initial Reactions

The episode opens with Nicole Wallace delivering breaking news about President-elect Donald Trump's decision to appoint RFK Jr. as the new Secretary of HHS. Referencing a report from NBC News, Wallace highlights Trump's previous promise to give RFK a significant role following his endorsement, despite RFK Jr.'s controversial stance on vaccines and lack of formal medical or public health qualifications.

• Nicole Wallace [00:01]: "Sources tell NBC News that the President elect Donald Trump is expected to pick Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. To be the Secretary of Health and Human Services."

Expert Concerns: Dr. Kavita Patel's Perspective

Joining the discussion is Dr. Kavita Patel, a former Obama White House policy director and MSNBC medical contributor. Dr. Patel expresses deep concern over RFK Jr.'s appointment, emphasizing his lack of credentials and his history of promoting anti-vaccine conspiracies. She warns of the potential exodus of top career staff from HHS, leading to hollowed-out agencies lacking scientific integrity.

• Dr. Kavita Patel [01:01]: "But Nicole, we're not just going to see this incredible kind of integration of ideology that has no science behind it. But Nicole, we're going to see probably the best of the best career staff leave, leaving these agencies potentially hollow that he would oversee."

Political Critique: Darren Beattie's Opposition

Darren Beattie, a conservative commentator, vehemently opposes RFK Jr.'s appointment. He underscores the urgent need for qualified individuals in public health roles, especially amid ongoing pandemic-related challenges. Beattie criticizes RFK Jr. as "completely and totally unqualified" to safeguard American health.

• Darren Beattie [01:59]: "Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Is of course, none of the above."

Understanding HHS's Role: Dr. Kavita Patel Explains

Dr. Patel further elaborates on the critical functions of the HHS, including oversight of the FDA, CDC, and NIH. She highlights how RFK Jr.'s leadership could jeopardize essential public health initiatives, such as vaccine distribution and drug development research. She references RFK Jr.'s past statements intending to dismantle significant portions of these departments.

• Dr. Kavita Patel [02:36]: "So anything from a safety net clinic to the medicines that you trust are safe, that is now potentially going to be under this environmental lawyer with no training whatsoever and very dangerous views."

Public Health Implications: Vaccine Misinformation and Safety

Wallace raises concerns about RFK Jr.'s stance on vaccines, noting his criticism of childhood vaccination schedules and unfounded claims linking vaccines to autism. She references CDC Director Rochelle Walensky's warnings about vaccine misinformation as a major threat to children's health.

• Nicole Wallace [04:12]: "RFK has criticized childhood vaccination schedules, linked vaccines to autism and other health issues against studies."

In response, Dr. Patel advises parents to maintain open communication with their pediatricians and rely on evidence-based practices, reassuring that medical professionals remain committed to public health despite potential administrative changes.

• Dr. Kavita Patel [04:52]: "I do think that it's worth just having that direct conversation with your pediatrician."

Political Support and Strategic Perspectives

Darren Beattie and Stephen K. Bannon pivot the conversation towards the broader political strategy, endorsing RFK Jr.'s appointment as a move against what they term the "administrative state." They argue that RFK Jr. will dismantle corrupt institutions and implement a more transparent and accountable HHS.

• Darren Beattie [07:10]: "It's Friday, the 14th of November in the year of our Lord 2024... RFK Jr. A warrior against Big Pharma."

Alex DeGrasse on House Majority and Strategic Goals

The episode features Alex DeGrasse, discussing the Republican control of the House and the strategic priorities moving forward. DeGrasse emphasizes the need to pass the administration's agenda swiftly, capitalize on the new majority, and implement policies aligned with President Trump's vision, including the "Make America Healthy Again" initiative led by RFK Jr.

• Alex DeGrasse [17:24]: "We're gonna need to pick up. Exactly. And Stefani pick up some dams. I mean that's the key is, I think with rfk..."

Naomi Wolf's Analysis: Potential for Institutional Realignment

Naomi Wolf offers a nuanced perspective, recognizing the historic significance of RFK Jr.'s appointment while urging caution and discipline. She contemplates the possibility of a realignment among various political factions, emphasizing the importance of safeguarding scientific integrity and addressing corruption within public health institutions.

• Naomi Wolf [23:15]: "It really is a new day in America... having RFK Jr. In charge of HHS is about a culture going back to the actual science."

Confronting Opposition and Defending the Appointment

Throughout the episode, Bannon and Beattie confront critics like Darren Beattie, defending the appointment of RFK Jr. and asserting its necessity for dismantling perceived corruption within government agencies. They argue that this move is part of a larger effort to reclaim and reform the administrative state.

• Stephen K. Bannon [44:38]: "It's a sort of Leninist project, right? Destroy the state... to fundamentally reimagine the US Government as something much more like a unitary authoritarian or autocratic system."

Closing Remarks and Future Outlook

As the discussion concludes, the panel reiterates their commitment to transforming HHS under RFK Jr.'s leadership, anticipating significant policy shifts and enhanced accountability in public health. They advocate for continued vigilance and support from their audience to ensure the success of these transformative initiatives.

• Naomi Wolf [41:52]: "We all didn't give up. And now there's this beautiful set of victories that allows us the possibility to redeem our nation and our well being and our health..."

Conclusion

Episode 4057 of "Bannon's War Room" presents a fervent defense of RFK Jr.'s appointment as HHS Secretary, juxtaposed with significant concerns from public health experts about the potential ramifications for American health policies. The episode underscores the deep political divides surrounding this appointment and highlights the strategic maneuvers within the MAGA movement to reshape key governmental institutions. As RFK Jr. steps into this influential role, the episode anticipates ongoing debates and the pivotal role this appointment will play in the future of U.S. public health and political landscape.

Transcript

[Nicole Wallace]

Sources tell NBC News that the President elect Donald Trump is expected to pick Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. To be the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Trump had previously promised RFK a quote, big role after RFK abandoned his independent bid for president and endorsed Donald Trump. The New York Times describes him like this, as a, quote, environmental lawyer who has no medical or public health degrees and has promoted anti vaccine conspiracies for years and end quote. Regarding the Food and Drug Administration, the agency that is responsible for the safety of our prescriptions, vaccines, cosmetics, our food, even veterinary medicine, an agency that would be under his purview. RFK has said that, quote, entire departments have to go. Let's bring into our breaking news coverage former Obama White House policy director, MSNBC medical contributor, Dr. Kavita Patel. Dr. Patel, your first reaction?

[Dr. Kavita Patel]

Oh my God. I mean, those of us who have spent our lifetime, kind of decades working in and around in hhs. I'm not kidding, Nicole. My text are flying off the chain. Both Democrats and Republicans saying, this can't be real. Someone must have gotten this wrong. This can't be possible. And now the second underlying chain. There's some silver linings. The second thought I had is he can't get confirmed, can he? But I'm just listening to you talk about the DNI and all these other roles that require some sort of White House or confirmation or some combination. And here we are. It is really hard to believe there are career staff texting me saying this was just the push they needed to try to get out. They were already on the fence and worried. We're not just going to see this incredible kind of integration of ideology that has no science behind it. But Nicole, we're going to see probably the best of the best career staff leave, leaving these agencies potentially hollow that he would oversee.

[Darren Beattie]

What are your issues specifically with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. As HHS Secretary, we understand he's completely and totally unqualified as it relates to protecting the health, the safety and the well being of the American people. We have a lot of challenges emerging from the pandemic. We need serious folks with a serious background and serious expertise. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Is of course, none of the above.

[Nicole Wallace]

Just for people that aren't familiar with how HHS interacts with the medical community and people's lives, just take us through a little bit of that, if you will.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah.

[Dr. Kavita Patel]

So the Secretary of Health and Human Services, as you mentioned, has a purview over many agencies that touch our lives. You just touched on a couple of them. Food and Drug Administration, the cdc, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. You may kind of know these letters as we've talked about all vaccines and things during COVID but it touches everything. It touches our food supply chain. I'll give you an example. When we had a supply chain shortage of baby formulas. This hits a lot of people at home because none of the shelves could keep the formula stock that the HHS secretary kind of pulled it all together and worked with other departments to try to make sure that we could get Americans formula just to feed their children. Add into that just all the research. Think of the National Institutes of Health, Nicole. That's also under HHS research on drug development. And I actually pulled up just to remind myself a tweet from RFK Jr. When he was running for president where he says that if he were president, I guess, thank goodness he's not, he'd stop research on drug development and infectious diseases for eight years. And I think he was proud of that. So anything that you do in the medical community, and let me tell you where it hits home during COVID you and I have talked about the Medical Reserve Corps and the Public Health Service Agency, all the people who actually help to facilitate getting vaccines across the country, getting Covid tests across the country, that's under HHS as well. So anything from a safety net clinic to the medicines that you trust are safe, that is now potentially going to be under this environmental lawyer with no training whatsoever and very dangerous views.

[Nicole Wallace]

And I trust my pediatrician with that. RFK has criticized childhood vaccination schedules, linked vaccines to autism and other health issues against studies. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky warned in 2022 that vaccine misinformation is one of the biggest threats to children's health in the sort of pickled community of anti vax disinformation. There are people that refuse vaccines and there are outbreaks of polio and measles in this country. Diseases that were once thought eradicated. What should people watching do if they have young kids?

[Dr. Kavita Patel]

I do think that if there is any solace, it's what you just said, that as doctors we're trained, so we are trained. I know that we've talked about doctors in many states not being allowed to talk about certain issues. I really hope and pray that vaccines in public health do not become another set of issues in addition to reproductive and women's health. But right now, your pediatricians, your primary care doctors, they have your best interest. They treat you in front of them and they're not worried about the politics. In fact, I'm venture I bet most of my medical colleagues don't even realize what's happening because they're doing what they should be doing and taking care of people. So I do think that it's worth just having that direct conversation with your pediatrician. And I also do encourage people to look at the evidence. I do not try to dismiss people when they talk to me about concerns about vaccines. But it's worth bringing back up that initial study that has been since debunked and refuted. And in fact, journals have retracted any of the mentions, not because they're afraid, but because we want to put good science forward. And Nicole, I'm all for telling you that we could probably do things differently. I know that I talked with my own pediatrician, with my children about do we need to do all of these vaccines in this one visit? We spread it across two visits. All of those conversations are appropriate. But that is not what we're talking about. That's not what RFK Jr. Is talking about. He's talking about implying a direct causality between vaccines and autism and in addition to that, other claims that we have. And then he couches it by saying he's not anti vax, he's just anti all the vaccines that we currently have, which is effectively being anti vaccine.

[Darren Beattie]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Darren Beattie]

It's Thursday, the 14th of November in the year of our Lord 2024. No, it is not December 25th. It may feel like it, but it's not December 25th. Absolutely. Another blockbuster. This is Trump. Let Trump be Trump. Just absolutely incredible today. RFK Jr. A warrior against Big Pharma. The corrupting influence of Big Pharma, the corrupting money of big pharmaceutical. Man, oh man, if RFK gets his way, MSNBC will just be a test pattern because all they do is feed off those Big Pharma ads. That's why they protect Big Pharma all the time. Just absolutely incredible, Incredible, incredible, incredible. President Trump announces that Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Will be the next Secretary of Health and Human Services. And man, this guy's innovative, got amazing ideas. Think of that with Gates, Tulsi Gabbard and the whole up until this all day. Full meltdown. Full meltdown on Gates, full meltdown of Pete Hegseth, Full meltdown on Tulsi Gabbard. Full meltdown now on Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Darren Beattie from Revolver Brother, it just gets better every day. This is everything we fought for, is these people and coming together and just going to be an incredible powerhouse. Walk me through your first thoughts on RFK and then the entire Cabinet.

Well, rfk, I'm elated to hear the news. I'm so happy that he stepped into the fold. He stepped into the arena. He knew where he could do the most good for the country, and that was through Donald Trump. He made a very intelligent choice. And I think there's no sector, obviously, in which he's more qualified to assist the country, to assist the mandate that the American people have spoken, and that's through health. Take care of big Pharma. You know, there's didn't used to be the case that we're such a fat country. It's not just an aesthetic issue, it's a health issue. It gets to all sorts of ramifications that are of significance to the country. He wants to get to the bottom of it. He wants to correct it. And I think make America healthy again is a precondition to make America great again. And so I think it's an exceptional choice. He's the right guy. My understanding is Big Pharma is terrified, and they should be.

What is the administrative state and the deep state's obvious meltdown? They're showing their weakness because now you can smell the fear. Walk me through it. Darren Beattie.

Well, they're terrified, and I have to say they're terrified across the board. But I don't think anything compares to the seismic reaction to the Matt Gaetz appointment. I mean, if you want to, this is how you want the corrupt, filthy and criminal system to react to an appointment. They all know they're guilty and they all know what's coming. You know, saying the doj that's this is the epicenter of the swamp in many ways. Because, yes, there's been malfeasance across the board, across the bureaucracies, but in the case you kind of expect the intelligence world to be dirty. We just want them to be dirty for once on behalf of American interests, but you expect them to be dirty. But the justice system, this gets to the core of our self conception as Americans, that we're a country governed by the rule of law, by a fair system. Justice is blind, the whole deal. And that has been eroded to the very core by Biden, by Harris, by the corrupt cronies, by Obama. They have absolutely plundered the justice system to the point that that core beacon of legitimacy that we used to think defines us in contradistinction to the rest of the world no longer is there. And it was the first time. It was only when the justice system itself became corrupted that you started to hear this term banana republic referring to the United States. That's why I think in the massive and absolutely critical swamp draining operation, the most important is the one at justice. And as I've said before, there's no person more fitting, more suited both in terms of intelligence, capability and personal understanding than Matt Gaetz to do this. And don't take my word for it, take the word of all the corrupt, filth, criminal trash, how they're reacting to this. And that says everything you need to know.

Before I let you bounce. You also had a great piece the other day. We haven't had a chance to get to it about Scott Besant at Treasury. Walk me through it.

Yes. So we're supporting Scott, the Centford Treasury. There's a lot of reasons for that. And I think one of the things that distinguishes this time around from last time is the last time there were some exceptional people, I would hope us included. But Trump went after the entire system and basically every institution in the world was actuated against him. And when he won, it was like there was a choice between people to a large degree whose heart was in the right place but didn't know how to navigate the system and ultimately got smothered by the system. And the alternative would be system people who are not with the agenda. I think the Venn diagram of the overlap between people whose heart is in the right place, who are loyal to the agenda, who are interested in implementing the mandate, and the people who have the capability and understanding of the system. That Venn diagram, the intersection is bigger. And I think Scott Bessent is certainly someone who stands very prominently in that intersection as someone with an exceptional career in finance, masterminded, one of the greatest, most legendary trades in history, understands the currencies, understands the markets, the things you need to navigate not just to make the country rich, but also the things you need to understand where the pressure points are because people forget the dollar and our economy is increasingly a tool of geopolitics that needs to be used intelligently. Otherwise we're going to undermine ourselves. He's someone who understands that maybe equally, if not more important, after Trump has taken down one foe after another, one of the people standing that remains to be dealt with is Powell, the Fed chair with whom Trump has had a contentious relationship. And I think by far, by far, Bessent is the most capable in terms of assisting Trump in navigating whatever Powell has in mind. So those are just some of the reasons.

Perfect. We'll get how do people read it? Where do they go to Revolver? What's your social media?

Read the full piece at Revolver News. We're breaking at the cutting edge of all these incredible developments. Revolver News I'm at Twitter aaronjbeaty.

Thank you brother. Appreciate you. Birchgold.com Bannon talk to Philip Patrick and the team IRAs 401ks tax deferred, tax free. Do it today. Short break. Naomi Wolf Alex DeGrasse on the other side in the war room, the elites are getting desperate. They now want to use the technology behind Bitcoin for their own Orwellian purposes, their gold to dominate our economy by forcing everyone to use central bank digital currencies, which they control. Imagine your every purchase being called into question, your every move tracked like you live in a communist country. This is not the America we want, but it is the America they want to create. Fortunately, you can fight back. I believe owning gold is the best solution. Why? Because it keeps you in control and safeguards your savings. Plus, with a gold IRA from Birchgold, you can move your IRA or 401k into physical gold without paying any taxes or penalties. To learn more, get a free info kit by going to birchgold.com Bannon that's birchgold.com Bannon Birchgold is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings. Let me repeat that. Birchgold Group is the only gold company I trust to help patriots defend their savings. So take a stand right now. Go to birchgold.com bandit and get your free info kit on gold IRA trick Republicans have officially retained control of the House, securing a governing trifecta late last night. But what an epic fail by Democrats. Hakeem Jeffries says, hey, this is on me. I was unable to do it. They had more money, they had more time and they had this young leader that they said was going to be their future. Unable to flip it. We have a mandate from the American people. A mandate not only to clean up the mess left by the Biden, Harris Schumer agenda, but also to deliver on President Trump's priorities. Okay, welcome back. Naomi is going to join second as soon as we get her booted up. Talk about RFK. Alex DeGrasse joins us. They announced yesterday, NBC, CNN, Fox, all of them. They called the House race. We've officially taken the house. DeGrasse, they're saying it's 218 to what, 215 with a couple undecided. Where do you say we are? Because you called this brother a week ago. And we knew we were going to win because Alex DeGrasse said it. And you can take Alex DeGrasse to the. You can take what he says to the bank. Where are we, brother?

[Alex DeGrasse]

I did say. I think we went. We had the path in that. Two or three. That no longer is the case. I'll hold myself to that. But regardless, I said we were going to win, frankly, when no one else. Not Fox News, not NBC, which we were really. And we were really upset about the fact that they wouldn't. We got guys out there and females explaining everything to the networks like, hey, this is the path. Here's what's going on. And while it's gotten tighter for us, we've got 218 right now, according to Associated Press, Iowa 1. We got Marinette Miller Meeks and she's up by 900 votes. The Dems are forcing a recount. It's going to be fine. That gets us to 219. We're currently at 221 right now. That's three seats, six total votes. And Alaska, we're up. We just got more results. I think a couple hours ago, the Democrat asked to win 80% going forward. So our guy Nick will continue to gain with the rank choice. That gets us the 220 in the bag, which is a net loss of one. And then you've got two outstanding in California, California 45, which is Michelle Steel. It looks tough, but we're praying we're hopeful she's in the game. It's probably a flip of the coin at this point. And then you've got Duarte in Central valley in California 13. We feel great about it, certainly in our favor with California. Steve, you just don't know. I mean, these are brutal. All of Team Elise. I mean, we've got, I think eight people on the ground in Fresno driving around curing ballots. And there's about 400 ballots on the board. And America Pack and Elon Musk group is out there on the nrcc and I wish I was out there, but a lot of patriots, they're working, doing frankly God's work out there, carrying the ballots in the room on the recounts and just, you know, we're barely holding on. But we held on, Steve. And I think it's really important that everyone reflect because the House is a, as we've been saying, it's just a total knife fight. And these seats are just brutal in California, New York, I mean they throw everything they can at us and they run really sophisticated ops. I mean really complex. And the last month it really heated up. A lot of people focused on going forward, which I'm, you know, I'm happy to be focused on the next election, which is already starting now.

[Darren Beattie]

Where do we, where do we then stand? This will come down at the end of the day at the 220 number you told us or higher it could.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Be 221, which is where we are most likely, which is where we're at right now. If something crazy happens, we could be at 220. I mean if something good happens, we could net 1C. Right. Depending on Michelle Steel, which is kind of up in the air.

[Darren Beattie]

But you know, the betting market, the margins right now, but it's roughly 221 to 214. Is that we're going to end up. You think?

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Darren Beattie]

So that gives us a, basically a three. That gives us three seat. That's three seat wiggle room. What happens when Gates.

[Alex DeGrasse]

We're gonna need to pick up. Exactly. And Stefani pick up some dams. I mean that's the key is, I think with rfk, I think it's really interesting and I've heard about some of their plans on making America healthy again. And I think there's going to be a very sort of. That kind of is where we land on moving forward. And I think Republicans are going to really have to focus on the results, move very quickly in the House and Senate to pass the agenda, to begin selling President Trump's magic to the voters, like within.

[Darren Beattie]

But hang on, I got a problem. I got a problem before. I got a problem. Before we get to the agenda. Gates has resigned. When does Stefanik and Walz resign? When they get into the confirmation process. They won't resign until the end of the. They'll play their hand out to the end of this Congress.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah, yeah, they're gonna. Everything's in coordination with President Trump's team and the speaker in the House and everything's gonna work out on that front and it's all going to be in sync and they will move very quickly, especially with the vacancies. That's no worries. 90 days by law in New York state at the Latest, not by 70.

[Darren Beattie]

Young man, you did amazing job not in working to get this majority to hold the majority and also to nail it every step of the way. Where we're going to get. Where do people get you on social media, brother?

[Alex DeGrasse]

I'm at Degrasse 81 on X to grass at grass on getter. I will say, Steve, I don't know if you were playing Fox or NBC because I'm on the phone, but not only did they outspend us, I mean, these guys probably outspent like 4 to 1 in many areas. And I'm telling you, we have to, as a party, really dig deep. Thank God for Elon Musk. We need more people like I'm not for because we need to start playing this multidimensional political warfare that they play. We can talk more about that later. But thank you, Steve, for having me on. And thank you to the posse that really got this done. And we're the political muscle. The phone calls, the doors. Thank you, everyone.

[Darren Beattie]

Unbelievable. The political muscle. Okay, man, great job. Alex Degrasse. We'll come back on. Talk about the sophisticated 4D chess Political warfare of the radical Democrats and their big money, their big money donors on Wall street in Silicon Valley. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Wow. It's official hold gets a little dicey with these three. You got to be very. Got to walk a thin line there, particularly all the votes that got to take place between now and when Congress leaves for Christmas, if they leave at all. And then coming back to new Congress on the third. Naomi Wolf. Holy mackerel. Unbelievable. Just, I can't. I mean, tell me, you've been at this for so long. You've put so much at risk. Talk to me what this day means to you, what RFK the announcement means to you. And I mean, just how big it is.

[Naomi Wolf]

It really is a new day in America. And you know, with any incredible gift, I think a lot of caution has to be displayed, a lot of discipline. And I hope that the leadership and all the people aligning with leadership really think about that, that the most important thing is to carry this incredible alliance safely into and through the inauguration and not, as a friend of mine said, quite perceptively, spike the football prematurely. But to your point, I cannot believe this day has come. It is such an historic, important day that someone with the Distinction and background and depth of knowledge of RFK Jr. Who is from one of the most storied legacy Democratic families in American history, has joined forces formally with maga, with President Trump, with this constellation of great talents that's kind of aligning with President Trump. It means more than just quite a huge thing that the scourge of pharma's impunity and the scourge of pharma's criminality is going to be in charge of hhs, which is where all the money gets dispensed and which oversees the FDA and where all the crimes got committed. I think it means something bigger. It could mean something bigger, and that's why we have to be so disciplined and so careful, or why the leadership does. All these talented people, all these aspiring people kind of hovering around the transition right now. It could really mean the solidifying of a realignment of patriots on the left, in the center, on the right, making kind of policy and ideology and labels secondary to our heartfelt desire to do our best to save our country. And more than to save our country, literally to save the culture of our country. Right? The culture of freedom, the culture of transparency. I mean, having RFK Jr. In charge of HHS is about a culture going back to the actual science, right? What happened in the trials? What does the evidence say? Has money corrupted the process? No one understands the corruption of science, the science, better than RFK Jr. And no one has been more bold and selfless in. And kind of nerdy in a good way, in exposing it in vast tomes like the real Anthony Fauci, with its hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of footnotes, which left no escape for the real Anthony Fauci. Right. I mean, it's absolutely stunning. But again, again, I'm sorry to always be Cassandra, right? But that's how you successfully move a giant ship through a narrow passage into, you know, a beautiful open ocean heading in the right direction. Everyone needs to kind of calm down and write important messages, letters to the American people, in the Washington Post, in the New York Times. I'm missing that, right? There's all this incredibly exciting furore of appointments, and people are processing them, but they're coming at us in a bitty way. And no one seems to be in charge or no one that I can tell is telling a coherent story to explain to the American people what each of these things means. To put it in context, it's a.

[Darren Beattie]

Little light in the comms department. The comms department is great. I think they're overwhelmed. But I was Talking to guys today. And I say, you know, President Trump's the best messenger, but wow, you really need a coordinated comms effort here.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right?

[Darren Beattie]

It's a little like we're taking incoming. I'm not so sure. We're given and we haven't hit a V. You know, the, the. We haven't hit our volley yet back. Naomi, hang on there for a second. Need you stick around. We're gonna talk about this. The last 72 hours, maybe 48 hours. Historic HEG set that defense gates at Justice Tulsi Gabbard with all 17 intelligence agencies reporting to her and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. At Health and Human Services. The administrative state is under full assault by Donald John Trump and the MAGA movement. Short break. Back in a moment. For 10 years, Patriot Mobile has been America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And when I say only, trust me, they're the only one. Patriot Mobile is a proud supporter of the show and I am proud to partner with them. Patriot Mobile offers dependable nationwide coverage, giving you the ability to access all three major networks, which means you get the same coverage you've been accustomed to, but without funding the progressive left. When you switch to Patriot Mobile you're sending the message that you support free speech, religious freedom, the sanctity of life, second amendment and our military veterans and first responder heroes. Their 100% US based customer service team makes switching easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their team will help you find the best plan for your needs. Just go to patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot get a free month when you use the offer code. Bannon Join me. Make the switch today. Patriotmobile.com Bannon that's patriot mobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot Action. Action. Action.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Darren Beattie]

Okay, is it turbulent enough for you fast and seat belts for the administrative state. It said hey warning impact birchgold.com they got the tax deferred IRAs, 401ks. They can talk to you everything about your financial situation and how gold can fit in that birchgold.com Bannon it gets you access to Philip Patrick and the team. Go check it out today. Make sure that you talk to the experts at Birchgold and ask Philip why gold is tracking somewhat tracking stocks that normally doesn't happen normally kind of an inverse relation. But that's not the case. But ask Philip Patrick and the team. Birchgold.com Bannon home title lock we do not want. We need you at the ramparts got a long, tough fight ahead. Can't have you distracted by unforced errors. An unforced error would be not protecting the title in your home. Let some bad guy or a cyber or some state actor, doesn't matter who does it that it gets done. Take out a second mortgage, some hard money lender, and then you've got to pay off the debt with getting no cash from it. That can't happen. Hometitlelock.com Bannon Natalie Dominguez and the team over there, the education specialist that gets you up to speed on what's going on. Of course, Jim Rickards. I love Rickards. One of the best guys on geopolitics, capital markets, you know, former CIA guy. Just absolutely brilliant. You get the Rickards newsletters. There's all types of different newsletters. You can get the monthly, they get specialty newsletters. All of it go to meltdown24. Keep it simple. Paradigm Press is now meltdown24.com meltdown24.com you get the, you've got the complete landing page, meltdown24.com go check out all the different things, the books, the newsletters, all of it from Jim Rickards. Oh yes, it's a meltdown. It's official. It's a, it's an incredible meltdown. Why is that? Naomi Wolf? Why do our betters, why are they melting down about RFK and what RFK stands for and the direction he wants to take the country as we make America healthy again. Maha Ma'am.

[Naomi Wolf]

Yeah, well, if you look at the org chart for hhs, it explains a lot of why this is such an extraordinary kind of why their heads are exploding.

[Dr. Kavita Patel]

Right?

[Naomi Wolf]

Why the meltdown. HHS is massive. Right. But it also, it was the vehicle of the lockdowns. It was through HHS that emergency laws were declared and perpetrated on Americans. It was through HHS that people showed up in your town board or your school board to, you know, mask your child. It was through HHS that all of the restrictions of freedom were justified, you know, that we lived through in the lockdowns. And if you it's also under the umbrella of HHS that all of the crimes were committed that the war room and daily clout have uncovered in these two years of going through the Pfizer documents. So the FDA is now under RFK Junior's leadership. I'm sorry, I can't help laughing with joy when I say that sentence. Of course, the FDA was the evil non custodian of our health and well being and food supply. And pharmaceutical supply that waved through 450,000 documents that the posse made it possible for us to analyze, and that revealed the greatest crime against humanity ever, you know, in the Pfizer papers. So he's in charge of that. And it also means that he has the unredacted records now. He can see every crime that was committed under the FDA's oversight, and he can understand the crimes that were committed. In addition, the CDC is under his oversight now. I mean, it's incredible. And the CDC was also unbelievably corrupt. The CDC was also an arm of what restricted our liberties and what lied to us about the injection and what advocated for illegal mandates. And so. And also what mishandled government data. I mean, one of our colleagues, Henry Ely. Dr. Ely, showed that the CDC was illegally farming out government health data, which is your property, to nonprofits that were being tasked with kind of using it to hide bad truths that the CDC wasn't able to hide themselves. So now RFKE Jr. Who understands the nature of those crimes, is going to be in charge of all of those records and in charge of the messaging, you know, never again as long as he's in charge of hhs. Are you going to see the CDC lie to you as they did about safe and effective? Safe and effective. You know, the lies on their website to this day that we've exposed here on this show with the posse's help, about, you know, maybe the injection will give you a little fever or pain at the injection site when they.

[Darren Beattie]

Okay, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. You're going to have. You're going to have access to this. Are you going to do a formal presentation of everything that the war Room posse, working under Amy Kelly's guidance, has done for Daily Cloud? You know, the Pfizer papers all over it. Are you going to go prepare? Are you going to walk through the entire thing understanding he knows this, but kind of systematically go through? Because, look, there has to be accountability. If we don't have accountability, we can't go forward. You have to find out, you have to go through what they did, how they did it. I mean, this goes to the whole global thing of, you know, in Geneva and the World Health Organization. Understand something, folks. None of that's operative anymore. You got rfk, you got Matt Gaetz, you have some hammers, and President Trump's obviously very focused on this. All the concern we had about the World Health Organization. You got Stefanik. Let me tell you about Elise Stefanik. She's just not going to New York to tear up that clown show in New York or the U.N. she's very focused on Geneva, the engine room of the United nations, and particularly the World Health Organization. She's got massive investigations. Our money's going to stop going. They want to know where our cash went before, who stole it and what they've been doing under the name of the United States of America. But are you going to go, Naomi, to sit down with Kennedy and walk him through all the. The sins of Fauci? Can I say now, Fauci would put his head on pike. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Dr. Fauci, I didn't mean it. I know you. I know you are worried about your security. Hey, dude. Yo. When Matt Gates is Attorney General and RFK is head of hhs, that's when I really think you ought to get some not security or lawyer up, brother. Naomi Wolf.

[Naomi Wolf]

Well, the other agency that RFK Jr. Is now in charge of is NIH. And so all the conflicts of interest that he was able to identify from the outside, he's now going to be able to look into Dr. Fauci's file, essentially look at his payment records, look at his royalty statements, and see every crime that was committed there. And really importantly for the state of science in America, nih funds what, 80, 90% of the research in the United States at universities, and he's going to make sure that it's clean research and not dirty research and not illegal research like the kind we've seen with the Wuhan lab. Yes. If RFK Jr calls me and Amy Kelly, we will go and we will present him with our beautiful book that the posse and you made possible, the Pfizer papers. And we'll create a presentation and walk him through the key points that we found. But it's my understanding that Senator Johnson is actively spearheading an effort to dig into what we found and what other independent researchers have found in terms of the crimes committed by Pfizer through the fda, and that he's leading the charge on that, and I'm sure he can say more about where he's at with that.

[Darren Beattie]

Naomi, did you ever envision when you started asking questions about all this back in, I guess, 2020, that it would end up four years later or four and a half years later with RFK, as Donald Trump would have just won a massive landslide, bringing all types of ethnicities and working groups together, and that RFK would be announced as his Secretary of Health and Human Services, and that you either would go work over there or have some sort of role in shaping the direction of all this going forward in a billion years. Could you have ever envisioned that?

[Naomi Wolf]

I mean, no. Not projecting at normal human eye level, but if you read enough history, you see that there are bizarre, imponderable reversals that. I mean, Shakespeare was really good. Right on. The bizarre, imponderable reversals in human history. And fate is a funny wench. And sometimes you think the winners will win forever and God or the universe or providence just turns everything upside down. And the people who stood fast and fought the good fight and tried to save lives, you know, get put in a position of absolute leadership. The only thing I would say, and I know you don't like it when I do this, but, you know, I am a Jewish lady and we just believe in, you know, don't celebrate till you're over the finish line. So I'm very happy.

[Darren Beattie]

Absolutely.

[Naomi Wolf]

After inauguration. Right. I just think we've got to steer straight ahead and include.

[Darren Beattie]

Oh, no, this, this is. This. Yeah, this is seized. Seize the institutions now and close these deals. Hey, there's a lot of rough order just to get confirmations. There are going to be more rough order to seize the institutions, particularly hhs, the Fauci Laden, you know, the Fauci infested hhs. So no, this. And then once you get in to implement what you're going to do, it's going to be a gale force headwind. It's going to be incredible. How do people go to get all your writings on these topics? You've been. The work you've done over the last number of years has been incredible. The group's done the war in Posse is love working with you guys. Where do people go?

[Naomi Wolf]

Well, Steve, I want to thank you. If you hadn't let me come on your show two years ago, plus after I was completely silenced, none of the Pfizer documents, work we've all done together with the posse would have been possible. So I really want to thank you. And also it's really nice that you're not in prison anymore. I'm really glad that you're back helping America figure out what's happening and what they need to do next. That's an incredibly joyful thing that we can all celebrate. What do people need to do? Our book is more timely than ever. So please go to Amazon and order it. It's the Pfizer papers. It's now an historical document. It's going to be the map of the crime scene that many, many people are going to use and reference. But also, I don't know, I mean, we fought so hard. I think everyone needs to really take a moment and celebrate where we're at. Doesn't mean we're out of the woods. But. But just look at what human beings did with their own agency. I think we've really got to feel that power we have that we spent the last two, two and a half years, all of us, everyone watching, everyone who sent in $5, everyone who made a phone call. We all didn't give up. And now there's this beautiful set of victories that allows us the possibility to redeem our nation and our well being and our health, our kids.

[Darren Beattie]

Naomi, thank you so much. You have personal social media.

[Naomi Wolf]

Yes, I am Wolf on X and you can find me on Outspoken on substack and always on Daily Clout. And please do continue to, you know, join us, support us and the work goes on. Thank you.

[Darren Beattie]

Daily Clout now a player punch way above their weight now player in this entire. So thank you so much, ma'am.

[Naomi Wolf]

Thank you.

[Darren Beattie]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Over at HHS. Wow. Make America healthy again in the embrace by President Trump. Just incredible. Just absolutely incredible. Sacred Human health. Go to sacredhumanhealth.com. check out all their kind of natural based products, particularly grass fed beef livers. That's my favorite. Make it, we make it accessible to you. If you got questions, they got a website. They'll answer your questions. You can make personal contact. We love that in the, in the companies that we have that we sponsor here or sponsor us. So make sure you go check it out. It's make America Healthy again. Why not start with Sacred Human Health and all their great natural based products. Start with beef. Grass fed beef liver. You won't go back. Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. Dave Bratz gonna join me in the next hour. What's it gonna be, Nate? What's gonna be Natalie, but she's working on a little bit of an investigative thing we got rolling here. Dave Brat's gonna join me. He's actually in the house. We're gonna take a short commercial break. We'll be back with the war room. Just come on. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. You ever think how can I work this hard and still be in debt? The piles of overdue bills, the threatening phone calls and never having money to do anything. It's just won't stop. You're trapped in debt. Done with. Debt is the way out. They've developed aggressive New strategies to end your debt permanently Done With Debt stands between you and harassing bill collectors. They tirelessly negotiate with your creditors to lower or even forgive what you owe. And they do it all without bankruptcy or new additional loans. As one client raved, quote, our phone call saved us a fortune. I wish we did this long ago. End quote. Bottom line Done With Debt has unique strategies to get you out of debt faster and put more money in your pocket every month. But you need to hurry because some debt solutions are time sensitive and you don't want to miss out. Visit donewithdebt.com talk with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Let me repeat that. Go to donewithdebt.com and talk to one of their debt relief strategists for free. You have nothing to lose except your debt. Go to donewithdebt.com that is done with debt.com do it today. Action Action Action.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I think that the idea of authoritarian the authoritarian promise is that everything shrivels in government other than the will of the leader, right? So you don't necessarily put a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In the in charge of HHS because you're hoping for great things from HHS. I mean, Matt Gaetz, among all the other things we can say about Matt Gaetz, he has explicitly proposed abolishing the Justice Department. Not specifically just abolishing the FBI and the atf, but talking about abolishing the Justice Department. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard as the Director of National Intelligence is, I mean, the idea that Tulsi Gabbard in a normal circumstance could get a security clearance to be a like a Walmart style greeter at any US Intelligence agency, let alone get past the security barriers is insane. So you do that because you want the worst for these agencies, because you want the worst for the US Government, because you think that the US Government is worthless. That's part of consolidating power to make the US Government nothing other than the leader and people who will do what he says. And there not being any repository of expertise, let alone, you know, just general day to day know how anywhere. So it's a, it's a sort of, I mean, as Steve Bannon used to say, it's a sort of Leninist project, right? Destroy the state. This is the cabinet that you nominate to not to run the US Government to do anything, but to destroy the US Government so that the US Government can be fundamentally reimagined as something much more like a unitary authoritarian or autocratic for lack of a Better term system.

[Darren Beattie]

Deconstruct the administrative state, ma'am. Let's get your lingo right. Rachel Maddow Tulsi Gabbard is a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army. Okay? She served over in, I don't know, outside of Syria or wherever we send the army today. So she has a security clearance, ma'am, and has nothing to do with Walmart. And if I was you, ma'am, I would watch what you say about people when you go after and smear someone has put their life on the line when you've done nothing. You sat on your ass up there at your big house in Connecticut, you know, with your friends, and you're elitist. You've done nothing for this country. Came out of Stanford. All you've done is try to destroy this country and the people in this country. And you're not going to sit there and say a hero like Tulsi Gabbard. Are you going after her because she's a woman of color? Is that what it is? Think you can talk like that because she's a woman of color or she's not a lesbian? Is that the case? What did you say? You said she couldn't get a security clearance. She's got a security clearance, lady. She got a security clearance. And she earned that security clearance by serving her country. Something you have not done and your ilk have not done. Look, let me just cut to the chase. The American people heard your crap for eight years. And all those people in that network heard it for eight years, Weisman, every night and every day, shifty shift, all of it, heard it. And the American people rendered a verdict. And in their judgment and their wisdom and all your thing of anti democratic and fascism, everything like that, the American people voted for this. They voted for this. They threw you guys out. Both houses of Congress, the executive branch. And they knew by doing that we would also take over the courts. So we're sorry if we're going to run this for 50 years, but I tell you what, we commit to the American people going to run a lot better than what you ran and out of control Leviathan that was set up to take away the liberties and freedom of a free people. So, no, ma'am, she earned her security clearance by serving this nation on foreign battlefields. What have you done? What have you served your whole crowd over? Say, what did you serve? What did you do? It's going to be so fabulous when we start taking this thing apart brick by brick and hearing them squeal. But what I would do Ma'am is lawyer up. Lawyer up. Lawyer up. Mike Lindell, before you sell me a pillow, let's give a shout out to all the folks that stood up here for election integrity. Make sure they didn't steal this election from Donald John Trump. Sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, I'll tell you, I want to. I want to. My cause of America, all the volunteers, over 300,000 volunteers across the country that work tirelessly for three and a half years. And our election bureau, all of. I could name so many names out there, but it was Patrick Kobach, Kurt Olson, Linda Rand. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And Steve, they just fought and fought. And what I told him the other night too, when we had thousands on the line, I said, you guys, we broke through the COVID up. Remember, this was the biggest cover up of the biggest crime in history, but we broke through now the COVID up. So all these things you're seeing unfold, it's going to open the doors that we can get to our secure election platforms. We want to get to paper ballots hand counted. Like over 130 other countries have gone to and got away from electronic voting. And it's just great to watch it unfold. And Steve, it's kind of interesting. I haven't been attacked for about a week now. I'm really wondering what the media. I did thank all the media for attacking me for three and a half years as we were able to get the word out.

[Darren Beattie]

And no, no, no offense, Mike. I think they. I think they have a target rich environment. I think they're occupied with a guy, I don't know, a guy named Matt Gates and Bobby Kennedy and Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard. You're just. Hey, we're just Grundu. We're just grundoons now, right? That's fine. Hey, they're. They're taking, by the way. This is why I got to get a comp plan. Gates is taking incoming like I've never seen before. His best friend is rfk. He's glad he got announced today. Mike, I got about a minute. Sell me a pillow.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah. And thanks, everybody. This is. You guys really need to take advantage of this. We're breaking records now since Steve got out. And why? Because we've offered you the free shipping on our entire order. And the flannel sheets you waited half a year for. They're back in the war room posse. It's their favorite, Steve's favorite.59,98, as low as 59.98. All the colors and sizes there's not a lot they are going to run out. Go to the website and there it is. Free shipping. Take your pick. All the Mypillow sleepwear came in two weeks ago. Also, that's an exclusive to the War Room Posse. Do all your Christmas shopping. People come out to me all the time. Mike. I got everything. You know we have over 250 products, everybody, all on sale for the War Room Posse with exclusive free shipping on your entire order. You guys have took advantage of the beds, the mattress toppers. Get those. We need to sleep well now in celebration of free shipping and celebration of getting our greatest present ever back Sleep.

[Darren Beattie]

The sleep of the just with my Pel products. Thank you brother. We'll see you tomorrow, sir. Short break.

[Mike Lindell]

Dave Bratz in the you owe back taxes, right? Here's the why is the IRS targeting you and not millionaires who owe a fortune compared to you? Rich people have tax attorneys, you probably don't. Tax Network USA are patriots you want on your side to solve your IRS tax problems quickly and painlessly. Their attorneys, strategists and expert negotiators employ brilliant strategies designed to solve your IRS problem quickly in your favor. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which to avoid. And Tax Network USA learned of a limited time special IRS offer. The IRS is willing to forgive $1 billion in tax penalties. Find out if you qualify before it's too late. Schedule your free confidential consultation now. Look, Tax Network USA has resolved over 1 billion in tax debts and they offer a best in class client satisfaction guarantee. This is the team I recommend to solve your IRS problems so you can get your Life back. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon Tnusa.

[Unknown Speaker]

Include things like preservatives, artificial ingredients and other additives that really aren't benefiting your health. So that's why we created Sacred Human. Really trying to fill this gap of quality supplements and of course the beef liver being our flagship products. For those who don't know, beef liver is loaded with highly bioavailable ingredients such as vitamin A, B12, zinc CoQ10 except, etc. And because it is 100% grass fed and natural, your body is able to absorb these nutrients far better than taking any other synthetic multivitamin or any other synthetic vitamin in general. So we have some other amazing products, but if you'd like to check us out, you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com and.

[Darren Beattie]

Cheers to your health. 700,000Americans every year. Yes, heart disease is the number one killer every year, year in and year out. Heart disease builds over time. Hypertension, high blood pressure, bad cholesterol, diabetes, all of it affects our heart. A healthy heart is key to being energetic as we get older. It is never too early to take care of your heart. You see, heart disease sneaks up on us. You can start in your 30s and when this happens, you're at serious risk by the time you turn 60. If you want to take care of your heart and those you care about, please go to war room health.com that's war room health.com all one word war roomhealth.com use the code war room at checkout to save 67% of your first shipment. That's code War room at checkout to save 67%. Do it again. War room health. All one word. War roomhealth.com go there today. You need if you're going to be part of the posse, you need a strong heart. You need a lion's heart. How we're going to do that is with salty. Go there. Do it today. Check it out.