
Episode 4058: The Populist Revolt And Reaction To Trump ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Richard Gates
And where do people like that go.
Stephen K. Bannon
To share the big lie?
Richard Gates
MAGA Media I wish in my soul.
Stephen K. Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. First, the system overrates intelligence. Success in school is not the same thing as success in life. The game is rigged. The meritocracy has created an American caste system. It has damaged the psyches of the American elite, and it has provoked a populist backlash that is tearing society apart. Gates ought to have this job because he understands criminality, and therefore you ought to put him in charge of the Justice Department. You know, this. This is a. This. This is trolling the United States. What's missing from this? It's not just a question of competence and judgment. It's a question of seriousness. The US Government, like it or not, has an extraordinary influence and power. It reaches every part of our lives. Tens of millions of people work for government at one level or another. Where is the seriousness? Where's the sense of stewardship? These are not just appointments meant to troll. These are appointments meant to affect our lives on a daily basis. And there's just a. I'm just struck by the lack of seriousness. Richard, I don't think you understand the nature of the project. The nature of the project is to destroy the government.
Richard Gates
It's not like the framework that we all have, which is these are very important agencies, and they do very important work, and you need to make them better.
Stephen K. Bannon
Why are we taking that seriously? It was a week into the Trump.
Richard Gates
Administration, in 2017, when Steve Bannon said, the thing about our goal is the.
Stephen K. Bannon
Deconstruction of the administrative state.
Richard Gates
That is what they are doing now.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is about tearing the government to pieces.
Richard Gates
That's the goal. That's what they're serious about.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're not serious about making it better. They're serious about tearing it down. Let's start with that last one, coming after the election, of course, where it does seem like a lot of what fueled this Trump vote, and he saw gains across the board, was sort of an anger, a backlash, a populist anger at the Nation's elites.
Richard Gates
Yeah, first, thanks for summarizing a 12,000 word piece in 30 seconds. You guys did a fantastic job with that. I wish I thought of that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Brevity is our thing sometimes.
Richard Gates
What's the big divide in American politics? It's the diploma dividend. College educated people are now trending sharply to the left, to the Democrats. High school educated people are trending sharply.
Stephen K. Bannon
To the right, to Donald Trump.
Richard Gates
And he rode a populist wave of anger from people with high school degrees and not college degrees. But that anger flows out of something, and it flows out of life in America right now. People with high school degrees die nine years earlier than people with college degrees. They're 10 times more likely to die of opioid addiction. They make much less money, they're much.
Stephen K. Bannon
Less likely to marry, much more likely to divorce, much more likely to have.
Richard Gates
Kids out of wedlock. If you ask people, do you have close personal friends? People with high school degrees are two.
Stephen K. Bannon
And a half times more likely to.
Richard Gates
Say, I have no close personal friends. So I'm trying to describe a chasm in American society between those who have the advantage of a college degree and those who don't. And that chasm was created by policies that segregated people by bogus categories. And now the people who have been left out of that segregation system are revolting. And as we talk about the appointments.
Stephen K. Bannon
And all the things that are really.
Richard Gates
Important that we're talking about today, we need to address the deep structural issues that gave us Donald Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
An insightful piece. And it seems like he's assembling a team to do just that. And this time, because he is now far more familiar with the levers of power in government, it seems like he has a much greater chance of succeeding than he did the first time around. Yeah, I think that's what's really striking here. First of all, he did tell us all this in advance. We were talking about RFK Jr. He literally said before the the election that he wanted him to go wild on America's health bureaucracy.
Dr. Gina Loudon
So, again, you know, the shock is.
Stephen K. Bannon
That on some level, so many people are shocked. I do think, Jonathan, you and I have experienced this before. The distraction of the carnival, the theatrics. Donald Trump is a serial picker of fights. He's probably relishing all the attention to the controversies he's already generated in just one week. But I think that can be a distraction from what the underlying goals are. Steve Bannon, you know, was practically gleeful.
Dr. Gina Loudon
In talking about the Gates pick the other day.
Stephen K. Bannon
But he said something I think is really important. He said, you know, he's going to be. Donald Trump has picked a blowtorch for the Justice Department. And you could say that almost all of these picks, in their own ways, are potential blowtorches for the departments that they have been chosen to lead. And I think to the extent there's an ideology, that's the ideology, an ideology of burn it down, blow it up, you know, reinvent it. And that plus personal loyalty to Trump himself, a big lesson he took away from his first term in office. It's Friday 15 November in the year overlord 2024. We are live from the Palm beach studios, the West Palm beach studios. A Real America's Voice. Want to thank the entire team here today, my production teams down here, and of course, Parker Sigma and the great team at Real America's Voice. Right there, you're starting to see, and I think understand that some of the smarter people on Centrist and on the left are really coming to grips with what's happened here. David Brooks, remember David Brooks? I did an interview with David Brooks right before I went to prison. It was up on his Sunday column in the New York Times. We'll try to pull that in a second. They had a, a very ominous photo. Look at that right there. For, for the folks watching at home. Or that. See this? Look at that ominous photo right there. That looks pretty scary. That's yours truly. The, the purpose of the, of the, of the article. And you see, I think the first line says, hey, if you ever felt what it was like to interview Trotsky, I just got out of there. I just got out of the interview. So with Steve Bannon, what I walked him through is exactly what the War Room Posse has been working on and focused on for years and years and years. This, this movement is, you know, over a decade in the making. We're coming up on the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the escalator next, next June. Right. June of 25th will be 10 years from the time he came down to start his presidential run. But even runs deeper than that, President Trump has been this instrument to really set right what the problems are in America. And they're very structural. And now they come to grips with this kind of populist revolt. And Brooks goes back and I highly recommend we'll figure out how you get it if you don't subscribe to the Atlantic. But he's written a 12,000 word piece about this. And what we were talking about yesterday, this election kind of came down to the credentialed class. And the credentialed class is the college graduates, but particularly the graduate school, the law schools, the business schools, the medical schools, where they think by getting these degrees that they're kind of better than everybody else. And they have a group think, where their group think is because of the universities that they go to and stamp them out, that they're closer to people in the West End of London than they are to the people in the western part of the country, that they're closer to people in Milan or Paris or Shanghai or in Singapore. The other credentialed elites are in Davos, right, the party of Davos. That they're closer to them in the way they think in the, in kind of their, their framework of reality and how they think life should be and the structures of life than they are to the people in their own country. President Trump's a nation builder. As a matter of fact, you know, in China right now, the Chinese people, they have a Chinese name for nation builder. That's what they're calling Trump. The Chinese people, Lao, Beijing particularly, they love Trump because they see Trump as someone that's dedicated to building their nation like they want their leaders to build their nation. That's the, that's where populism and nationalism comes together. It's one of the reasons we keep saying, hey, if people come over here for college, to become part of the credential class, no need to stay here in the United States. We got enough credential class, right? Best to go back home and help make your country great again. That's how the world, that's how we get peace and prosperity with every nation of the world with their best and their brightest working every day to make their own people and to make their own nations, nations thrive. David Brooks, you see the struggle that folks have with this. Oh, all these disruptors, all these disruptors. It's called creation, creative destruction. It's a, it's a, I think it came from, from Hayek or Schumpeter or one of these economists back post war era about the process of kind of capitalism, the process of innovation, the process of going forward and making, you know, making things new, a renewal, regeneration. And that's what you're seeing here in the established order. Of course, the established order doesn't like it. You know, Pat Caddell used to always quote the great Pat Caddell, who is one of our, our main guys early on in the struggle and unfortunately died back in, even before Trump was elected, back In, I think 2015, he died, or 16, Pat passed away. But he had done so much of the original polling and analysis to say that, hey, everybody thinks they're a forgotten man. A forgotten man or woman, right? In the United States, the working class, the middle class, think the elites don't no longer pay attention to them, no longer pay attention to him. He says if a movement comes along and the leader comes along and that leader actually addresses their concerns and particularly their economic wellbeing, right? And stop these endless wars where their children are just being churned up, churned up in these endless wars, that movement and that leader will be ascended. And that's what you've seen today, you see in the established order, can't handle it. They came and think it through. It's not that we've hid the football, if you think about it, from the Tea Party movement, then, to the rise of President Trump, really from the financial crash of 2008. And one of the reasons I got so involved in things, really after 2008, a little bit before, but really after 2008, was the simple reason I said, in every major financial crash in history, you have a populist reaction. And you're going to have a populist reaction here because you have to. You have to kind of balance things out. So here we are in 2024, and it's like they never thought about it because they never had the respect. They've dismissed President Trump so much and his followers, because, remember, you breathe through your mouth, you're not worthy. You're a deplorable. You're a deplorable, or you're a fascist, or you're a Nazi or a garbage. Think about everything you've been called. But the most important things, they never actually had enough respect to actually look through and see what you supported and what you stood for in these kind of great values of the Judeo Christian west, and particularly as it's personified in this nation. Remember, America is not an idea. America is a country. America is a nation. We have a border. We have sovereignty. We have people of every ethnicity and race. We also have an economy. But we're a nation. And that's what the globalists didn't understand, the elitist. So this is no longer Republican and Democrat. I've said that for years and years and years. This is globalist elites versus populist nationalists. In the nation as it was Persona laid out, we had a choice. The left was very, oh, this is democracy. These guys are anti democratic, they're anti fascist. And President Trump won a landslide. He won a landslide. The nation was able to weigh and measure, was able to weigh and measure these two alternative views of America. They weighed and measured. And the American people said, we choose that now. Obviously, what has to happen now is we have to deliver on that. And President Trump in his first cabinet picks has shown that we are going to deconstruct the administrative state. What I said on the stage at CPAC back in 2017, February 2017, we're going to deconstruct the administrative state. This fourth branch of government that the revolutionary generation and the framers of the Constitution, the founders of this nation, had no intention they would think. What in the hell is going on here that's going to be taken apart brick by brick? We're going to get back to what the framers of the Constitution, the founders of this nation, the revolutionary generation, a limited government that maximizes freedom and opportunity. In a good old fashioned word, liberty. Okay, we're live today from West Palm Beach, Florida. Johnny Conn of Breitbart, one of Andrew's closest buddies and a fabulous musician, is going to take you out with one of my favorite songs, the anthem of the Tea Party, American Heart. We're going to be back live. Just a minute. They say that we need changing, as if all the founding fathers seem to get it wrong. But I say I still believe in the greatest innovator, liberator, cultivator freedom knows.
Dr. Gina Loudon
So I suggest you take a look inside.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Dr. Gina Loudon
Oh, gosh, it's just good to see you in the flesh, I tell you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Dr. Loudon, we've been doing this for you. Remember Johnny Khan? I met you right after the 2008 presidential election. In fact, it was about 16 years ago, I think today on the 15th of November of 2008, there was a meeting in Chicago. Yes, meeting in Chicago of people that were put together by Dr. Loudon and Rebecca Mansour, who was Sarah Palin's right hand of people that thought that Sarah Palin would be a great president. United States. They just lost to Barack Obama and the whole Palin for president movement. And kind of, she was kind of the Trump before Trump. Right. There's the populist movement, was looking for a leader and we spent a couple of years. She decided I think in 2011 not to run for president. I think a mistake. But she and Romney eventually run and got smoked by obama. But good 16 year anniversary. A lot, a lot. A lot of folks still with us today, right? Still working.
Dr. Gina Loudon
I wish Andrew Breitbart was still.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, gosh, amazing.
Dr. Gina Loudon
I feel like he looks down from above and he's just, he's clapping for you. Steve Bannon and the War Room Posse.
Stephen K. Bannon
What a warrior. Trump Breitbart, two warriors. Tell me one of the things about this creative destruction is the Deconstruction Ministry say is a spirit. There's a new spirit. You can feel it even in the run up to election. But now you're spending a lot of time in Mar a Lago. Tell the audience what that spirit's like.
Dr. Gina Loudon
It's almost like the beginning of something that is. It really is a revolution. I mean, we have to call it that. Someone said a bloodless revolution. I said, no, there's been a lot of blood, a lot of bloodshed.
Stephen K. Bannon
President Trump got shot in the head.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Well, yeah. And you think about all the people that died During COVID you think about our J6ers, you think about the deaths on J6. I mean, there has been a lot of blood spilled on our side. On our side, yes, absolutely. But it has been a revolution of sorts in a very positive way and one without an actual war. War where we're fighting in combat. Right. So we have to be. We have so much to be political warfare. Exactly.
Stephen K. Bannon
Of which we're winning.
Dr. Gina Loudon
And spiritual warfare.
Stephen K. Bannon
Spiritual warfare, absolutely.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Of which we're still contending and we need to keep contending. I think it's really important, Steve, that we take nothing for granted. Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
So tell me about Mar A Lago. You can feel the spirit down there. They're there, they're selecting, they're working 24 7. Every now and again they may be a party, just maybe President being DJ. Right. I noticed, I noticed Dr. Loudon, a kind of bloodshot ISIS where I said, what the hell happened to you? She goes, I got in at like 4 o'clock in the morning. They were dancing all night. Marvel Lago, it's true. But they're working there nonstop in the transition office in West Palm beach and over at Mar a Lago going through. Remember, we have 4,000 folks to take over a bureaucracy that when you count the contractors, about 10 million for a six and a half or seven trillion dollar federal budget that's going to be deconstructed. You know, Vivek and Elon are going to come in and start to make some cuts. But you've got it. We have 3,000 non Senate confirmed that hit the deck plates running as I told you. The landing teams, first beachhead team, and then guys come in after the 20th. But 1000 have to be Senate confirmed. But over at Mar a Lago, they're working away every day. You can feel the energy even in the imperial capital, Washington D.C. you can.
Dr. Gina Loudon
I mean, folks last night, Sylvester Stallone, I mean, the list goes on. I mean, you could really. If I start naming names, I'm just gonna forget someone. But Tulsi, you know, just all the people there gathered around President Trump. And the amazing thing, Steve, that I love is a lot of people. There are people jockeying, I'm not gonna lie you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Are they really? The people down there, Is there anyone? When I see the blood on the floor this time is not Mika with the facelift rumor. She came in, she put blood on my covers. The face of the blood on the floor now is the knifing.
Dr. Gina Loudon
But a lot of people walking around just almost in wonderment, saying things like wow. There's going to be no more DEI in the military.
Stephen K. Bannon
Wow.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Our border is going to be closed. The cartels are going to be shut down. You know, we can. We're going to be able to walk the streets in our cities again when we execute.
Stephen K. Bannon
When we execute.
Dr. Gina Loudon
The dream, big dream is. Yes, is happening.
Stephen K. Bannon
So. But you can feel a little underlying tension because that's the coordination for all the jobs. Amazing announcements and more announcements going to SEC will come out today, I think. Secretary of treasury, nec. FBI. Deputy Director, FBI. We have a couple of three dogs in those fights as we'll update you during the day. But you can feel the energy, right?
Dr. Gina Loudon
You can. I think HHS was really exciting last night. It was amazing how he teased the Burgum appointment this morning. Last night.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, he made it last night.
Dr. Gina Loudon
He's having fun.
Stephen K. Bannon
Governor Bergam is going to be Secretary of the Interior. What a great pick that is. Yeah, right. Really. When you talk about energy, you know, Bergam is an oil and gas guy, knows that if you talk about energy, actually department energy is really nuclear power. The better slot for Bergen was always Interior because you got the opportunities, the potential opportunities, kind of maximize the natural gas and oil possibilities and mineral possibilities and some of the great lands we have throughout the country. So he's a great pick. No, the president. President is a rare form. Tell the audience about Stallone. Stallone shows up and does what?
Richard Gates
Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Well, of course he called President Trump the next George Washington. And I thought it was actually a very solid analogy. I mean, he said George Washington, when he was being George Washington, didn't know that he was being George Washington. Right. He can't see. He doesn't have the perspective we have today. Just like President Trump can't even realize the impact that he is going to have on this country and this world.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think, no, this is gonna be known. This is one of the reason. Reasons that Mika and Joe in the credential class, as David Brooks talked about in our opening, they now have come to the realization. Like Arthur Schlesinger named the time between the founding of the Republic and the Civil War, the Age of Jackson, about General Jackson and populism, which President Trump really kind of personifies. This will be known as the age of Trump. And that's what kills him. And if you look at it, it's General Washington for the founding of the country. Abraham Lincoln for the. For the refounding of the country. Right. The Civil War that got the blight of slavery, the bondage, human bondage and slavery and really remade the union into a real a nation. And they fought for the nation, fought for the union and remade it. And now President Trump, more than fdr, and I think he's risen up to that. As I say, you have a first tier, that's Washington, General Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Trump. The second tier, right below them are General Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and Ronald Reagan. But this is going to be known as the age of Trump. And that's what's so the media can't understand his picks for dni, with Tulsi Gabbard, for Attorney General with Matt Gaetz, with hhs, with Bobby Kennedy, RFK junior Pete Hegseth over defense and many, many more. The ones now. But he's going to remake this government. He's going to take this, we're going to take the, the administrative state part of it and go back to what the founders wanted, which is limited government. People have talked about it for years. We're actually in the process of doing it. And the defenders of the established order that have grifted off that Leviathan for decades and decades, of course they're upset about it.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Dr. Loudon yeah, they're going to be upset. And it's what I always say and what you've always said, Steve, Follow the money. Every single person who does not understand what is happening right now or is standing around saying it's going to be terrible, these are the people that have some financial interest, whether it's the military industrial complex, whether it's the censorship industrial complex, the list goes on and on.
Stephen K. Bannon
Big Pharma medical industrial complex.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Thank you. Most importantly, Big Pharma and the hospitals and the American Medical association, that is completely corrupt. Endorsed masks, remember, endorsed the vaccine, on and on. You know, they're going to lie about these appointments, every single one of them. But it's all provably untrue, the things they're saying. And we've got the ear, honestly. We, the patriots, the Patriot warriors, the War Room Posse. This audience has the ear of the American people right now. You won this election. We can win the narrative.
Stephen K. Bannon
We have a.
Dr. Gina Loudon
We can win the narrative.
Stephen K. Bannon
We have a mandate. We have to deliver on the mandate. And by the way, the old mainstream media don't talk about anymore. We drive the media, the streaming services, the podcasts, the social media clips. We've become the mainstream media now. It's time to deliver. I don't want to say anything about our production. I don't want to say anything about the lovely Dr. Gina Loudon, but I have to Comment Bannon comes down here and we'd start and it's just kind of, you know, Dr. Loudon hits the thing and I got lights going up. I got. I got. I got a lighting. I got grips and gaffers all around. What, you show up and they gotta get the lighting perfect. Is this. You're like. You're the new Carrie Lake.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Carrie was there last night. She's amazing. And she's very good spirits. I know you've talked to her. She's in very good spirits. And I wanted everybody to know that. Very happy. She's got excited about this.
Stephen K. Bannon
She's got to get a significant role in this administration, I think.
Dr. Gina Loudon
I think so, too.
Stephen K. Bannon
You bring your own. Carrie brings her own lighting. You bring your own lighting.
Dr. Gina Loudon
No, this is just. This is what these guys do. And I'm telling you, these guys, I'm not lying.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, no, no, no.
Dr. Gina Loudon
They work.
Stephen K. Bannon
Stop.
Dr. Gina Loudon
20 hour days. These guys are amazing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Stop. The only reason I got the lighting is because you showed up before. It was a little dark, right? It's a little dark. That's okay, Ben. It didn't look that great in the morning anyway, right?
Dr. Gina Loudon
You look great.
Stephen K. Bannon
Do I? Do I?
Dr. Gina Loudon
Yeah, you look great. I keep saying, we are so happy that you are here, like I said in person, where we can touch you and know that you're actually here.
Stephen K. Bannon
Sixteen years ago today, I think it was. It was right after the. The defeat of Obama beating in the middle. The financial crisis just started. The collapse of Lehman Brothers had just happened in September. Sarah Palin came out of that. And Sarah Palin was the. Was the. Was. Had a populist back. Remember, the Tea Party had not been formed. It was the following. April 15th of 2009 was the first day of the Tea Party. But the beginnings of the Tea Party revolt, the beginnings of this populist revolt, the first kind of awakening of the American people was really Sarah Palin's vice presidential campaign. And then afterwards, two people, Dr. Gina Louden and Rebecca Mansour really pulled that together. And that was the kind of the Tea Party before the Tea Party. The Tea Party launched, what, five or six months later in April. And then, hey, Tea Party rolled, had some wins, had a couple of three defeats. And then President Trump came down the escalator in June of 15. Thank you so much.
Dr. Gina Loudon
What an honor. Thank you so much. Good to celebrate with you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Don't ever change, baby.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Love your party.
Stephen K. Bannon
And can you leave the lighting? Dr. Loud, keep the lighting. Okay. We take a short commercial break. Modern day Holy War takes US out. Nicole Negrady. Gotta look. Love this song. Love all of our ALP music. General Mike Flynn, one of the original Patriot warriors, joins us next live in the war room. Back in a moment. Jesus, put the light in you little.
Dr. Gina Loudon
Children in a straight line don't fall behind.
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General Mike Flynn
Yeah, not only. I mean, so security clearances aside, I mean, Tulsi had one as a sitting congresswoman. She's had one as a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army. I mean, this person hides behind the mask of an organization that has been lying and attempting to deceive the American people, and it failed. These people are a bunch of losers. And one of the things that I want people to understand is that this is a. You know, you just had Gina Loudon on there. You're talking about a revolution. And you just highlighted three critical. I call them arcs of history, Steve, because we are in a revolution right now. You know, the first real arc of history is when was when we had the revolution, right? The revolution to form this country. George Washington was the leader. The second big arc of history where it was existential to our nation was the Civil War. And we had Abraham Lincoln as our leader, you know, and you see what they did to him at the tail end of his presidency. And now we're in this third arc of history between the Civil War and now. We've really not faced an existential threat to our country, and we just went through it. And in this arc of history, we have Donald J. Trump leading this revolution because this is a revolution. The major part of this revolution is sort of the war of narratives, right? The information revolution that we are involved in. Clearly, clearly. And I've been preaching this for the last four years, there is a spiritual battle that's ongoing People like Rachel Maddow. I mean, these people are anti everything that matters to this country. And they just can't stand the fact that Donald Trump, as you said earlier, he is going to deconstruct. He's going to deconstruct the federal government and he's going to use people like Elon and Vivek and Bobby Kennedy and others. Right. I mean, some of his appointments have just been extraordinary. When you start thinking about, about what Trump's strategy is, when you really take a hard look at it, he's not only preparing this battlefield that is going to be actually, I'm so looking forward to observing what is going to occur and also to help out where I can, but also he's preparing for the future battlefield. And that to me is as important. That's a visionary leader in President Trump to be able to choose people who are so capable of what, of what they're going to do, but also to prepare for the future.
Stephen K. Bannon
So talk to me about one of the, you know, heavy lifts here is going to be Tulsi. That's where they're all over her. Because the 18. Think about, we have 18 intelligence agencies. You don't think we need to deconstruct the administrative state and the state. So she's in charge of 18. Even the CIA, they're all report up to her. But then you've got FBI, hopefully today you may have Cash Patel and some senior position in the FBI, but you got the FBI, you got the Justice Department legal part, kind of that merger of intelligence and the legal lawfare apparatus has come after us for the last four years, particularly the first guy in the hopper was General Mike Flynn. Right. So what is your guidance to. Because folks understand this at msnbc. By the way, a couple of reporters last night called me after a couple of my rants and said, hey, we're getting text messages from a lot of the producers, particularly younger producers at msnbc, and they're saying, is Bannon serious or is he just being Bannon? Right. I am 100% serious. You know, what you did with various people out there, you had on insurance. You are part of a vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump and that is going to be drilled down. So here's what I tell you. Call your mom and dad, sit down with the lawyer. You might want to do it this weekend. Walk through everything that you've done on these shows over the last couple of years, okay? Walk through everything. And hey, if the lawyer says you got nothing to worry about, then hey, you know, but get Some smart lawyers, but preserve your documents. Preserve your documents. Don't be shredding anything. Go ahead, Mike, what do you got?
General Mike Flynn
I was just going to say that, you know, you know how many times, and you know this, how many times I've been asked to preserve my text messages, my emails, my phone records. These people in the, in the mainstream media that were part of this conspiracy, they need to do all that. Another thing that I think that, and I know it's happening because I was tipped off recently and I've provided this back into some of the folks down where you're at that they are going, they are going to do another one of these end arounds, just like Obama did, where they're going to hire like around 2,500 people. And actually the numbers are probably higher between the time the election ended and they found out what the results were and the time before Trump goes in to include the deputy national security advisor that was reported yesterday. So, so these are people that are trying to move over into government positions to basically block and tackle and do all the kinds of things that the conspiracy that fell underneath the Obama administration directed by him. But I have said very specifically, the tactical commander on the ground for this particular battle that we are facing is John Brennan. There is no doubt in my mind Brennan is in there and there are still others that are in that mix. But Brennan is one of the key guys for a person like Tulsi and Elon and Vivek. I mean, just in the intelligence community alone, I can tell you, as many agencies as we have, there's that many communication systems. Right. So when you think about technology, you probably have two of the best people in charge of the Doge and just communication systems alone. The amount of money that is spent.
Stephen K. Bannon
On just those 17, 18 right now on this show, would you be open to go over to DNI as Tulsi, as Lt. Col. Gabbard's deputy to help? Because it's a wilderness of mirrors. Everybody remember the Intelligence agency's stock and trade is misdirection plays, misinformation and lying. So it's not like you can just walk in these buildings and you're going to get it straight. Would you be open to be her deputy or some sort of special assistant, at least for the first year, to make sure that she goes through the wilderness of mirrors.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah, because part of, you know, so the answer is yes, but the part of this too, and this is what I told Vivek, okay, just, just briefly, that these people, they know how to hide, right? And I call them wall walkers because they keep their. They keep their eyes against the wall because they don't want anybody to actually engage them. So, you know, those are, those are all walking all over the Pentagon but other. Other buildings in the government. So these people know how to hide and they know how to come in and give you presentation after presentation. One of the things that they're going to do, and I want everybody to listen closely for those that have been chosen for these really critical jobs. Tulsi's among them, Pete Hague says, is another somebody, whoever goes into the doj, the FBI. What they will do is they'll immediately come to you and they're going to put security all around you and they're going to say. And they're going to set up a wall. Said that to block people from coming to you, to give you the truth. And then the next thing that they're going to do is they're going to come in with a whole series of briefings about what they're doing and what they're not doing. Those that are chosen to lead these organizations have to refuse the line, right? I mean, George Washington knew, and he did this time and time again until he finally accepted the surrender of the British. He damn near lost every battle because he kept fighting. He kept fighting and he kept sacrificing. And he knew it. And this is what it's going to feel like going into this battle. I mentioned this the other day, Steve, and I think when we talked last week. This is D day plus one, folks still do not declare victory over Europe yet. The troops are still arriving. The 3,000 that you mentioned or the thousand hires that have to take place? I don't believe that it needs to be that many. I frankly do not believe that it needs to be that many.
Stephen K. Bannon
What, What's. Yeah, what's the first. What's the first two or three things you would tell. By the way, if Denver can keep that two shot and maybe expand it. I can't look at Rachel Maddo anymore.
General Mike Flynn
I know. Get rid of it.
Stephen K. Bannon
Get rid of it. No, no, I'm start. I'm start. Literally, I've got an upset stomach and somebody give me some Pepto Bismol. I can't look at it that much.
General Mike Flynn
I put it up there because I.
Stephen K. Bannon
Can'T look at it. What are you doing, Flynn? What are you doing with that?
General Mike Flynn
Your background saying she ran hell on this country. And I want people to understand that I do not fear these people. And I want people to. I want the MAGA Movement. I want the populist movement in this country to be fearless. We have got to be fearless against these things. In fact, turn them off, get rid of them, get them out of our lives. These people like her, they hate this country. They hate our Constitution, they hate our principles, they hate liberty. They wanted to take everything away. And I remind everybody again, had Donald Trump lost this election, he'd be going to prison for the rest of his life. Many others of us, they would be coming after us. They. Exactly, exactly. And you know what? And I, and I was ready. I'm ready, Steve, as you are. So we have to remind people what we're up against. The enemy has.
Stephen K. Bannon
If you're not prepared, if you're not prepared to go to prison, you're not prepared to lead this fight, you're just not. It's a reality. Real quickly, before I lose you, John Brennan, tell people who. Because you're absolutely 1000% right. And I'm going to put Flynn on the John Brennan watch. Give me two minutes or give me a minute on who John Brennan is and why it's so important that he be brought to justice.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. John Brennan, member of the Communist Party of America. He was not only the assistant to President Obama for Homeland Security, he's also risen up in the Central Intelligence Agency as an analyst, principally not an operator. He became the director of the CIA under Obama and now he's one of the, he's one of the 51 letter signers. That's, that's something that is also going to. So John Brennan, protect your communications there too, buddy, because we're going to be coming after them. And John Brennan, right now, he's floating around, right? He's floating around. He's floating around the world and he's undermining the current President elect of the United States of America. So my warning to John Brennan is watch yourself, buddy, because it goes around. And what's going to happen is, is we get into the Department of Justice here and all of these, all of these communications that, that we've been told to make sure we hold on to.
Stephen K. Bannon
You'Re going to be told to make sure that you hold on to 51. The 51. Okay. Recall Millie to active duty court marshaling Monday starting the afternoon the 20th. Also all 51. We start there 51 stripped their security clearances, stripped of their pensions. They can take us a quarter if they want. Also a massive declassification dump on the afternoon of the 20th. General Flynn, where do people go on social media? Where they go to get your Podcast or your content, sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. And go to General Flynn.com General Flynn.com is the best place to go and, and I'm, I'm posting on at Jen Flynn on. On X a lot but go to, go to general flynn.com I put up a newsletter there a couple of times a week and they can also watch the movie too.
Stephen K. Bannon
But generally you have right here.
General Mike Flynn
We are in a revolution, Steve. We're in a revolution. I want people to understand it. This is a war of narratives. We won. We won big time. But now we gotta, we gotta press. Press ahead.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right? Gotta close it. Press ahead. All gas. No break. General Mike Flynn volunteered to be the deputy at Tulsi Gabbard. Short break. Charlie Kirk, Are you tired of progressive corporations that continue to further alienate conservative Americans all the while eroding the future of the American dream? Companies like Starbucks strong, strong army customers to support abortion or PayPal canceling accounts or political views. Maybelline making a mockery of women by supporting transgender models. And Bud Light forcing gender ideology on you when all you want is the enjoy a cold beer. But thanks to Public Square, you don't have to fund companies like this any longer. Public Square connects you to tens of thousands of businesses that share your value for life, family, freedom. Whether you're looking to buy coffee, find a new athletic brand that knows what a woman is, shop for clean skincare or just find a restaurant in your community that won't lecture you about your political views, publicsquare.com is your resource. It's free to join. Plus you get discounts to many of the high quality businesses on the platform. Start spending your hard earned money on companies that don't hate you. Let me repeat that. Start spending your money on companies that hate you. Join me and millions of patriotic Americans who love truth, our country and our constitution@publicsquare.com Download the app now or visit the site at publicsquare.com that's publicsquared.com Take action today. Action, action, action. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. The great thing about coming to the West Palm beach studio of Real America's Voice, you never know who's going to be here. We want to introduce. Charlie Kirk's here for the show that starts at 12 noon.
Richard Gates
Charlie, great to see you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve. Fabulous. If it had not been for Charlie Kirk, I don't think we'd be working so hard for transition. What you guys did at Turning Point USA is absolutely historic. Tell me about it because I want to talk about that before we talk about transition.
Richard Gates
Yeah. And look, I think it's actually worth telling the story because it was this remarkable journey where we decided that we wanted to try to turn Trump supporters into voters. And you know this, Steve. There are millions of people that support the Trump agenda, but they weren't necessarily voting. And that was really. Yeah, they're low propensity, but they're not low information. That's important. They're high wisdom, but they're low propensity.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
Richard Gates
These are plumbers, electricians, welders. These are people that actually build the country. But they might not always know how to vote, where to vote.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
Richard Gates
And so what we did at Turning Point action is we went and registered tens of thousands of them, found them, went to their homes, chased hundreds of thousands of ballots.
Stephen K. Bannon
When you say ballot chasing, define that.
Richard Gates
So ballot chasing is that every. For example, in Arizona, 85% of all voters get ballots. It is finding the individuals that have ballots sitting on their kitchen counter and getting them in before the deadline. Now, mind you, this means actually embracing early voting, which I know a lot of people didn't like. But it worked, guys, it worked. Why did it work? Because we were able to get people that were not going to just show up on November 5th. On November 5th. The likelihood of some of these folks.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're not cannibalizing the game.
Richard Gates
No, no, no, no. It was new voters, so it allowed us to expand the harvest. And so when I talked to President Trump about this, he said, well, this is brilliant. I said, yeah, you got 30 days now to go hunt, 30 days to go find these people. So what we did is we hired 1,500 full time people between Arizona, Wisconsin. We won both those states, by the way. Arizona, best performing swing state. Better than 2016, Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
Amazing.
Richard Gates
We did. We did nearly double of the output of 2016. It shows that ballot chasing works.
Stephen K. Bannon
Amazing.
Richard Gates
And so we built this army and then the other part of this, which was more below the radar. So we were talking a lot about ballot chasing, but we did not talk always about we were doing with young people in the election cycle. People knew me as kind of the young campus guy. Steve, we won the youth vote in Michigan.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's amazing.
Richard Gates
We almost won it in Wisconsin. And we flipped Senate.
Stephen K. Bannon
Charlie said he was going to do this. I go, charlie, I don't know. Is that like a bridge too far? You guys did it?
Richard Gates
Yeah, no, we did it. And I'll tell you that the impact is profound. And I can make an argument, if you look at Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, they were closer than people think. Pennsylvania was 3 points, but Wisconsin and Michigan were really razor tight. We won the youth vote in Michigan, nearly won at Wisconsin, and we won it in Pennsylvania. If we did not not do what we do with younger voters, you make the argument that Trump would not have won. It was younger voters that rose up in huge numbers and delivered this mandate because they don't want to live, as you would say, as Russian Serbs are.
General Mike Flynn
You.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're like Baron, you're getting tall. Have you stopped growing? No, seriously, what's he doing? Are you drinking milk or. No, sir. I didn't get shorter in prison, okay? I came at. I came out kind of prison ripped. You've grown two inches. You're like Baron. What are you, six four, six five now?
Richard Gates
Yeah, I'm six five.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, but you haven't. You were not six five all the time. How many inches have you grown?
Richard Gates
You're still growing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Charlie Kirk, breaking news Scoop. Growing boy. They know you try you and baron. Baron's like 6 and 10.
Richard Gates
No, he's taller than I am. No, they do.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, he's a lot taller. But you're, you're, you're taller than Trump.
Richard Gates
Yo, Trump's 6 4, right?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, yeah, you're 6 5. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he told me, you know, he notices that stuff.
Richard Gates
Yeah. Oh, no, by the way, he loves it. By the way, he likes.
Stephen K. Bannon
But he likes them toys. Oh, you know, the tall guy.
Richard Gates
Oh, that's right, that's right. No, I mean, all kidding aside, we're having the time of our life here.
Stephen K. Bannon
Talk to me about the energy. You know, this is creative destruction down in Marlowe. Give people some insight.
Richard Gates
By the way, we're overwhelming the system is what we're doing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right?
Richard Gates
I mean, we got. Hey, you think you're having a bad day, Libs? Oh, Bobby Kennedy. Oh, you really Matt Gates. Or how about Tom Homan? Or how about Pete Hegseth? Right? Or Tulsi Gabbard? This is.
Stephen K. Bannon
These guys are twofold. They're brilliant choices for deconstructing administrative state. They're also, as Fetterman says, God level troll.
Richard Gates
Oh, no, it's remarkable. But let me also just emphasize one part of this which I think is so incredibly important. For no other reason, Donald Trump is showing that campaign promises are not just rhetoric, they're pledges. He is restoring faith in the American political system. So let's say that some of these guys fail in confirmation. That.
Stephen K. Bannon
Zero. No chance.
Richard Gates
Okay, well, then I'm going to take your word for it, Steve. I'm Just saying, look, Tulsi is going to be a lift because of the administrative state and the warmongers. Right? But the point being as big a.
Stephen K. Bannon
Lift as Hegseth Gates and Bobby Kennedy, those are world class lifts.
Richard Gates
And we're working. By the way, I've been, I know I've been working the phones of senators. Hold on.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's march or die, don't you.
Richard Gates
I totally agree. And by the way, this, this whole thing is the personnel Charlie texted me.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yesterday says you tell them if their vote, their vote is if you want to get primary for any reason, you vote against any oppressive. Look, President Trump, let me be blunt. He got shot in the head and then won in a landslide a couple of months later. He gets to choose who he wants in his government. Right. There's no question. If he wants them, they go.
Richard Gates
He gets the attorney general of his choosing, the second half of his choosing, chief of his choosing. He earned it. He deserves. By the way, these Senate Republicans would not have a majority if it wasn't for President Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
We wouldn't have held a house.
Richard Gates
No, no, that's right. They are only important right now in leadership because of President Trump. This is his mandate, his cabinet, his people.
Stephen K. Bannon
President Trump delivered in 16. We delivered it all. The House and the Senate, we had it all. And it was Paul Ryan who sits on the board at FOX and goes against President Trump every day and Mitch McConnell that blocked him. He's done it again, delivered every branch of government and now the courts cause what he did in the first time. So if he wants it, he gets it. You agree?
Richard Gates
100%. And by the way, it's going to come down to this is where war room could be really important. By the way guys, keep celebrating. We're not activating you yet. There will be a huge call to action. I looked up the dates Jeff Sessions, when he was confirmed that you remember this, Steve? It was actually before get sworn in the confirmation hearings start around like 1-10-ish. And then the votes are early February. So that's really going to be where we're going to be locked in. Like the kind of that new year period where we at turning point Action are planning a five state tour of blood red states of Idaho, South Dakota, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi.
Stephen K. Bannon
Turn mine folks.
Richard Gates
Well, we're just going to be. Here's the thing. These are, these are states that feel as if they're left out of the national conversation when it comes to maga. No, no, no. Your red state senators are now either going to block or confirm. And the Final thing I'll say is this. These guys all have states of people that voted for Merrick Garland but are skeptical on Gates.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's unbelievable.
Richard Gates
So we're not going to put up with that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Don't get skeptical.
Richard Gates
Imagine we're going to war. Imagine the grassroots of Idaho if they find out their senators are not going to vote for Gates. You're one, which I'm not saying is going to happen.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're one of the great young men in this country. I can't wait to you. By the way, Charlie Kirk ought to take a senior position in this government. We're very lucky to keep you. I know. Yeah. But one day you're going to be a governor of a state and a senator and a potential president of these United States. Charlie Kirk, you heard here first on War Room. You're going to go get ready for your fabulous show.
Richard Gates
Thank you. Yes. We have to do that.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, I tell you why this guy does the hard pick and shovel work. It's not, you know, a lot of people show up and they want to be Showtime and go on TV or anything like that. Kirk and Tyler and the entire team over at Turning Point has just been amazing. What you've built. I met. I was in one of Charlie's first pitches when he's doing. I go, what the hell? We're gonna take over student governments. Who is this crazy guy, right. Who's not even in college? Charlie Kirk, one of the great young American in the country. Honored to be.
Richard Gates
Steve, thank you so much.
Stephen K. Bannon
Honored to be in the trench with you. Fixed bayonets. Short break. Philip Patrick. Todd Bensman. A whole lot. And Natalie Winners. Dean. Natalie Winner is going to join us next in the War room.
General Mike Flynn
Voices calling, voices crying.
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Episode Title: The Populist Revolt And Reaction To Trump
Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Release Date: November 15, 2024
In Episode 4058 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon explores the dynamics of the ongoing populist revolt against entrenched elites in the United States, focusing on the reaction to former President Donald Trump’s influence. Joined by Richard Gates, Dr. Gina Loudon, and special guest General Mike Flynn, the episode delves into the structural issues plaguing American society, the strategic deconstruction of the administrative state, and the pivotal role of grassroots movements in reshaping the nation’s political landscape.
Stephen K. Bannon opens the discussion by criticizing the current American meritocratic system. He argues that the system has inadvertently created a “caste system,” fostering division and resentment among different societal strata.
Bannon contends that the prevailing emphasis on traditional intelligence and academic success has led to a disconnect between the elite and the general populace, igniting widespread dissatisfaction and fueling the populist movement.
Richard Gates expands on the educational divide, highlighting how differing educational backgrounds have led to significant political realignments.
He discusses the “diploma dividend,” noting that individuals with higher education degrees are more likely to support Democratic policies, while those without such credentials lean towards Trump’s populist agenda. Gates emphasizes that this divide is not just academic but deeply rooted in socioeconomic disparities, including health outcomes, economic stability, and social structures.
A significant portion of the episode centers on the strategic plan to “deconstruct the administrative state,” a key objective of Trump’s administration as spearheaded by Bannon and Gates.
Bannon criticizes the existing government framework, portraying it as inefficient and self-serving. He argues that the appointments made by Trump are not intended to reform but to completely dismantle existing institutions. This approach, he claims, is necessary to restore “limited government that maximizes freedom and opportunity.”
The episode discusses the controversial appointments within the Trump administration, including figures like Richard Gates to the Justice Department and Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence.
Bannon and Gates express skepticism about the qualifications and intentions of these appointees, suggesting that their primary goal is to undermine existing government agencies rather than enhance their functionality. They emphasize the importance of personal loyalty to Trump and an ideological commitment to radically transforming government structures.
The conversation shifts to the intense grassroots efforts underway to support the transition, with a focus on the operational hub at Mar-a-Lago and West Palm Beach Studios.
Bannon describes a highly energized environment where thousands are mobilizing to take over federal agencies, implement policy changes, and ensure the successful deconstruction of the administrative state. The emphasis is on rigorous preparation and unwavering commitment to the movement’s objectives.
Dr. Gina Loudon and General Mike Flynn join the discussion to reinforce the populist narrative and the strategic positioning of key figures within the administration.
Dr. Gina Loudon Quote:
“It's a revolution of sorts in a very positive way and one without an actual war.”
(18:24)
General Mike Flynn Quote:
“We are in a revolution, Steve. We're in a revolution.”
(35:45)
Flynn elaborates on the historical significance of Trump’s leadership, comparing it to monumental figures like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. He underscores the “war of narratives” and “spiritual warfare” as critical components of the populist movement, aiming to shift the foundational values of the nation.
The episode highlights the successful initiatives by Turning Point Action and Charlie Kirk in mobilizing voters, particularly those who are traditionally low-propensity to vote.
Gates discusses the “ballot chasing” strategy that significantly contributed to electoral victories in pivotal states like Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan by ensuring that Trump supporters who were previously disengaged from the voting process were actively participating.
Bannon and his guests critique mainstream media outlets and opposition figures, accusing them of corrupting institutions and resisting the populist agenda.
They accuse media personalities like Rachel Maddow of being part of a broader conspiracy against Trump and the populist movement, reinforcing the narrative that the established order is actively working to undermine the administration’s efforts.
As the episode nears its conclusion, Bannon emphasizes the urgency of the populist movement’s mission and the importance of maintaining momentum.
He calls on listeners to stay engaged, support transition efforts, and continue challenging the existing power structures. The discussion underscores the belief that the movement is on the path to fundamentally transforming American governance and society.
Episode 4058 of Bannon’s War Room provides an in-depth analysis of the populist revolt reshaping American politics, highlighting the strategic dismantling of the administrative state, the mobilization of disenfranchised voters, and the profound ideological battles waged against entrenched elites. Through passionate discourse and strategic insights from key figures, the episode underscores the transformative vision driving the movement and its commitment to redefining the nation’s future.
Stephen K. Bannon [00:30]:
“The meritocracy has created an American caste system. It has damaged the psyches of the American elite, and it has provoked a populist backlash that is tearing society apart.”
Richard Gates [02:47]:
“College educated people are now trending sharply to the left, to the Democrats. High school educated people are trending sharply to the right, to Donald Trump.”
Stephen K. Bannon [03:57]:
“President Trump in his first cabinet picks has shown that we are going to deconstruct the administrative state.”
Dr. Gina Loudon [18:24]:
“It's a revolution of sorts in a very positive way and one without an actual war.”
General Mike Flynn [35:45]:
“We are in a revolution, Steve. We're in a revolution.”
Richard Gates [45:16]:
“We went and registered tens of thousands of them, found them, went to their homes, chased hundreds of thousands of ballots.”
Stephen K. Bannon [25:00]:
“We have a mandate. We have to deliver on the mandate.”
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