
Episode 4061: Trump Deserves To Choose Who He Appoints; March Or Die ...
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Chris Hayes
By successfully exploiting a key division among Americans, those who are for the system and those who are against it, broadly put, President Elect managed to build a narrow majority with what you might call an anti system coalition. People who are angry at our government, resentful of our institutions because they feel they have been failed by them. And lots of people feel that for very good reason. And now he has chosen perhaps the most high profile figure in the anti system world for a top job in his cabinet. Of course, I'm talking about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. That's Trump's new pick for Secretary of Depart of Health and Human, Department of Health and Human Services. Yeah. Going back to your first question, it's not just that these people are not qualified enough. It's not just that they're totally unqualified. It's that they're anti qualified. They're qualified to do the opposite of the thing that they're supposed to do. Tulsi Gabbard is talking in a moment when Russian forces are approaching the Ukrainian capital, when Russian assassination squads are attempting to kill the Ukrainian head of state. And she's advising people that all we have to do is summon up a magic word and in effect surrender all of Ukraine to Russia. It's an extraordinary thing to be doing, and it's not naive. It sounds naive, but it's not. It's, it's. What it's doing is trying to prepare the way for more Ukrainian suffering. It's what it is, is saying he who invades is right. Well, first we have to confront something that's really important because we always talk about this with the kind of assumption that if we build it, they will come right? That if only there were local newspapers again, if only the local newscasts were on. What we're missing here is that a large chunk of the fault here just rely lies with the American public there. We are now a leisure society. We take in huge amounts of entertainment, we take in, you know, petabytes of information, you know, over the course of weeks and months that we simply can't process. Our tolerance for boredom, for nuance, for detail is almost zero. And this is what I wrote about in the death of expertise, that people, they don't really want to read news stories. I was on a panel once with Dan Balz from the Washington Post, and someone said, you should write more explainers. And very commonly he said, we write them, you don't read them, you won't read them. And I think we have to deal with the fact that there is a kind of a resistance to people ever encountering news or being told about anything that they think is unpleasant or uninteresting thing or contradicts things that they already believe. And having said that, you know, passionately, I'm not sure what to do about it. There is local news there. There are, you know, through the Internet. There are other reputable sources of news. And Will is sitting right here. You know, he. You can read Will Bunch, but I don't know what to do about the fact that we've become a society that is so easily distracted and bored that, that asking people to pay attention to, you know, to who's going to be the Secretary of defense. I mean, my, my parents were uneducated folks. They read the newspaper every day. They would have been able to answer that question in 1969 or 1970. Today, people just don't seem to care that much about it. And I'm not sure how to make them care until something disastrous happened on us. Your warnings have not weakened. You haven't watered them down. You are truly alarmed at what you've been seeing in the last week and a half. Yes, it's. Nothing is unclear here. These appointments are not just poor choices in a traditional sense. These appointments, each of them individually, is historically bad. But taken together, these are not people who are going to be bad at their jobs in some sort of normal sense. Taken together, these appointments suggest an attempt to actually make the American government dysfunctional, to make it fall apart, to pervert it, to have it do things that it's not supposed to do until it's not capable of doing anything at all. So, of course, one has to be attending to this. An insightful piece. And it seems like he's assembling a team to do just that. And this time, because he is now far more familiar with the levers of power in government, it seems like he has a much greater chance of succeeding than he did the first time around. Yeah, I think that's what's really striking here. First of all, he did tell us all this in advance. We were talking about RFK Jr. He literally said before the election that he wanted him to go wild on America's health bureaucracy. So again, you know, the shock is that on some level, so many people are shocked. I do think, Jonathan, you and I have experienced this before. The distraction of the carnival, the theatrics. Donald Trump is a serial picker of fights. He's probably relish all the attention to the controversies he's already generated in just one week. But I think that can be a distraction from what the underlying goals are here. Steve Bannon, you know, was practically gleeful in talking about the Gates pick the other day. But he said something I think is really important. He said, you know, he's going to be. Donald Trump has picked a blowtorch for the Justice Department. And you could say that almost all of these picks in their own ways, are potential blowtorches for the departments that they have been shown. And I think to the extent there's an ideology, that's the ideology. An ideology of burn it down, blow it up, you know, reinvent it. And that plus personal loyalty to Trump himself, a big lesson he took away from his first term in office. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. Got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be sa War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. It's Saturday the 16th of November in the year of our Lord 2024. We're back on watch here in the war room in the imperial capital. There you had a combination of Chris Hayes of msnbc, Tom Nichols, formerly of the Naval War College, I'm not kidding you, writer for the Atlantic magazine, you had, I think, Tim Snyder, the historian from Yale, Susan Glasser, who is, I believe, at the New Yorker, and she's the wife of Peter Baker, the lead White House correspondent for the New York Times. So you get a set there. All of them bemoaning this. Let me step back. I had an opportunity to talk to a couple of groups yesterday. One in Mar a Lago and one back here in the Imperial capital. Donald Trump took a bullet to the head and four months later won a landslide victory. That the crowd of Chris Hayes. And I agree with Chris Hayes, it's system versus anti system when you break it down to something. So it's elite globalist, the system versus populist nationalist, the anti system. And Chris Hayes, you know, maybe he's the guy at MSNBC that makes it through, but that's a very smart framing device. And Chris Hayes says, hey, look, the system's failed a lot of people. So you have a lot of people out there that are angry and want to come in in a coalition to the anti system forces. And we don't all agree on everything. Donald Trump, once again, he took a bullet to the head, not simply survived and in the moment stood up like the gladiator he is. He then put a coalition together and won a landslide, held the House, won the Senate, won the presidency, won the popular vote, won all the battleground states. And let's throw in Nevada, the new battleground, another battleground state that we didn't win in 16, okay? A mandate has the courts going to add to the courts because Elizabeth Warren is not going to get her judges through. So there are 47 slots there for the courts, folks. Trump won and they're sitting there yammering, let me be brutally frank. He took a bullet to the head and then won a landslide four months later. Never in world history has that happened. He gets to choose the personnel in the government that he wants. The American people rendered a verdict. They put the forces that, the forces that defend the system, the established order, made that order and that system in what they call democracy at the centerpiece of their campaign. They didn't hide it, they put it out there. Good on them. Abortion was up there, but their main drive was these people are anti Democratic, they're fascist, they're Nazis, Trump's Caesar, Trump's Hitler. These people are deplorables. These people are fascists, they're brownshirts, they're garbage. That is what they said consistently from the time he got to Mar a Lago in 2021, on the afternoon of January 20, every day. And they had the system roll him up legally and financially. They cut off all his bank lines, all his credit cards. They othered him and then indicted him in state courts in Georgia, in city courts, in Manhattan, in federal courts, in Florida, in New York and Washington D.C. on 92 charges. And they rigged a trial, like the Moscow show trials in 1935, and found him guilty of 34 felonies. And they made this. This was the centerpiece of their campaign. And the American people rendered a verdict. This is very similar, if you've seen the movie Lincoln, to the incredibly powerful scene over the Emancipation Proclamation. He sits there and goes, look, it's an executive order. As you know, executive orders are like the travel ban or like getting out of the Paris Accord or all the things President Trump did on the border that Biden reversed on his first Afternoon, he got rid of all of Trump's executive orders and flipped and put 80 of his. And this is why we have 15 million illegal alien invaders in the country. Lincoln told his cabinet. Hey, at the time my attorney General Bates thought it was a little dicey. No, we had to kind of, you know, juggle some stuff. And it's the reason I could only free the slaves in areas under rebellion. But I gave the American people two years. Two years, Two years to weigh and measure it, to turn it over in their mind that the war wasn't simply about the Union, but the war was about ending human bondage and chattel slavery. That that was the higher calling of this war. And I gave them two years to think about the people. I literally went to the people and gave them two years to think about it. And they rendered their verdict in 1864, in November, in an overwhelming victory of Lincoln versus McClellan. His general, backed by the army that voted. Trump did the same thing. Trump and his candidacy came back and they made democracy the centerpiece of this. They made the system. Chris Hayes, you made the system in the entire system. Tom Nichols and Susan Glassner, you made it the centerpiece of your campaign, regardless if it's Biden or Harris. This is why she said, I wouldn't change anything because your systems players, the American people thought it over. The American people turned it over in their mind and mulled it over. And in their great wisdom, the American people rendered a verdict. And that verdict was on the 5th of November in the year of our Lord 2024. That verdict we support the gladiator that leads the anti system forces. We have seen this and we want that. That individual, that leader, that president of the United States, that chief executive of the US government, the commander in chief of the armed forces, and yes the chief magistrate of our country, Donald J. Trump, gets to choose the individuals that will be in his government. The Constitution lays out that the Senate has advice and consent. We're all open for advice, but we want their consent. There's no wiggle room here. If you want to further this revolution of the anti system forces, it's a sine qua non. Take a short break. Johnny Khan will take us out with American heart. Just you take a look inside. I think you changed already. You went and lost your. You ever think how can I work this hard and still be in debt? 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You have nothing to lose except your debt. Go to donewithdebt.com that is donewithdebt.com do it today. Action. Action. Action. By successfully exploiting a key division among Americans, those who are for the system and those who are against it. Broadly put, President Elect managed to build a narrow majority with what you might call an anti system coalition. People who are angry at our government, resentful of our institutions because they feel they have been failed by them. And lots of people feel that for very good reason. And now he has chosen perhaps the most high profile figure in the anti system world for a top job in his cabinet. Of course, I'm talking about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. That's Trump's new pick for Secretary of Depart of Health and Human, Department of Health and Human Services. Gates ought to have this job because he understands criminality and therefore you ought to put him in charge of the Justice Department. This is trolling the United States. What's missing, missing from this? It's not just a question of competence and judgment. It's a question of seriousness. The US Government, like it or not, is has an extraordinary influence in power. It reaches every part of our lives. Tens of millions of people work for government at one level or another. Where is the seriousness? Where's the sense of stewardship? These are not just appointments meant to troll. These are appointments meant to affect our lives on a daily basis. And there's just a. I'm just struck by the lack of serious. I don't know, Richard. I don't think you understand the nature of the project. The nature of the project is to destroy the government. It's not like all this, the framework that we all have, which is, you know, these are very Important agencies, and they do a very important work, and you need to make them better. Why are we taking that seriously? You know, it was a week into the Trump administration, Trump administration in 2017 when Steve Bannon said, the thing about our goal is the deconstruction of the administrative state. That is what they are doing now. This is about tearing the government to pieces. That's. That's the goal. That's what they're serious about. They're not serious about making it better. They're serious about tearing it down. It's. Remember, he said, it's in every part of your life. This is the key point. It was never intended to be in every part of your life. Don't you guys get it? The framers in the revolutionary generation. It was always meant to be a limited government. That's how it was sold. It would have never. The Constitution is a contract. It's a contract of a merger of equals that are not equal. You had little Delaware coupled with, you know, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Those are the power players. Those are like the SEC conference power players who had all different thoughts about how things. Massachusetts, you know, it's like the English Civil War. They're the Puritans in Virginia. The Cavaliers. Oh, you know, University of Virginia has named the Cavaliers. Right. A merger of equals. But the entire deal was a limited government and a focus on liberty and freedom and that individual initiative like, I don't know, carving out a great nation from a vast wilderness. Oh, and we don't want to be part of an oligarchy or an aristocracy or some worthless bunch of royals and elites in London calling the deal and corrupting commons. We say they own commons. We don't want that. And as a side note, we don't want monopolistic power where the same corrupt people can just give a charter to something like the British East India Company that controls everything, make that work in India. We don't want it. That's back to every patriot grave to the founding of this republic. That is our DNA. No, sir. The fact that it's in every aspect of your life is exactly the problem. And Donald Trump is the solution. He's an armor piercing shell. He's a blunt force instrument. He's giving the system blunt force trauma. And he gets to choose who is in his government. This is not even a question. It's march or die. And all of them get confirmed. If Trump puts them up, they get confirmed. If we have to have a showdown now with the Senate, let's have it now. What did Frankie Pantangelo say, let's hit him while we're still strong. Not that I would make a Mafia reference here, but all the lessons in the world are from the Godfather and the business world. We're not looking at this correctly. You have. And I'll throw. Christy Noman, you have five Horsemen. The five Horsemen of the Deep State Apocalypse. Right. Hegseth Gates, Noem. Look at Kristi Noem, Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard. Five of them. Their commonality is they are anti system players. The system has to be restructured. The system has to be purged. The system has to be taken and rebuilt and rejuvenated. It's called creative destruction from Schumpeter. It's the way capitalism works. And the government's not outside of capitalism. It's part of a capitalist system that's gotten corrupted, that's turned into an oligarchy. It's as obvious as anything. And Chris Hayes, you are now in the unfortunate. This is Wagner the other night. Alex Wagner and Chris Hayes, finally. They've had. They've understood for a long time. These are smart people. But finally Alex Wagner comes forward talking about the Vanity Fair piece about the war Room, right? And remember, you have it. Was it Snyder and Nichols is sitting there. People are too bored. They don't know who think. Watch the war room and look at the audience. Look at the live chat. They want that information. They live for that information. They feed off that information. They're not looking for entertainment. You think this show is easy to follow? Easy? You think it's a lot of laughs? It's not. It's work because they're ready to work and they want to work because they understand they're saving their country. Your people want entertainment. Your people, because you never give them the facts. You give them a bunch of crap to begin with. They know it's crap. They say, hey, I might as well go, you know, get on FanDuel and let's bet on these. Is the. Let's bet on. Is it a pass next or a run? Or would it be the costumes that come out for the, you know, the. The 50th award show that nobody cares about? Yes, you're. The system is bred in circuses. The system takes away initiative. That's what they're yearning for. The African American men and the Hispanic men in Danbury Prison. That's what they're yearning for, is a shot. You know what they're yearning for. You know what the working class. You know what they're yearning for. It's Very simple. A piece of the action. They're not asking for a handout. They're not asking for everything. A piece of the action if you change it and make the American. America first and American citizens first. If you flip it on its head instead of, they're the last. And everything gets dumped on them. The taxes and the regulations and the crappy cities. Oh, and your kids got to go over to the Hindu Kush and watch Patrol and they got to go defend the monarchs in Saudi Arabia, and they got to get the hundred first. Let's get a brigade of them up in Romania on the border. Ukraine, let's get those kids from Indiana and from Chicago and from the Rio Grande Valley and from Los Angeles. Let's get them on the border of Ukraine and Romania ready to go, ready to defend that border and not the border down the Rio Grande. And that's why the folks in the Rio Grande voted for Trump. The system, Chris Hayes, not only doesn't work, it destroys. It destroys in your campaign was to destroy Donald Trump because you thought, if we can destroy Trump, one, we destroy him, but number two, we will send the greatest message in the world that if you stand up to the system, even if you've been president of the United States and commander in chief of the armed forces and the chief magistrate of the American system and someone worth $7 billion and a global media figure, even if you've been all that, which in modernity is all powerful, we can determine and the system will destroy you. And so if we can destroy you, who's going to stand up to that? Who's going to stand up to that? Your mistake is you misjudge his moral courage because you don't think he has any. And his physical courage, his moral courage to understand, like Cincinnatus, he will come back to save this republic. As a leader, knowing consciously conscious intention, not sleepwalking conscious intention of my line of work, Trump, they're going to bankrupt me. They're going to try to destroy my family. And guess what? They're going to come at me and they're going to try to put me in prison, imprison me for the rest of my life, because I'm 78 years old in physical courage when they tried to assassinate him. Robert Kagan, that you, you, you asked for and begged for in the Washington Post and all over the media. Rachel Maddow. He stood up in the moment, in the defining moment of his presidency, in the defining moment of the age of Trump. He stood up with blood on him and gave he says, let's go fight, fight, fight. That will echo down in the history of this country age upon age of what courage is. You want to know why young men voted for him? That's what they voted for. A leader, a gladiator, someone that a man can respect and no, you did not break him. And the country weighed and measured it and they get a say so. And they voted for the anti system team and they voted for the anti system leader, the blunt force instrument that is Donald John Trump. Back in a moment. I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money in our bank accounts. First, think back to 9, 11, shortly after the government pushed through the Patriot Act. This gave the government power to spy on innocent Americans by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across the Internet. Now Jim Rickards, editor of the independent financial newsletter Strategic Intelligence and New York Times best selling author, is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level. In fact, some of the guests I've had on the War room believe that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move. If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms or even vote maga, the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts. I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning. Fortunately, Jim Rickards, an American patriot and friend of mine, has made it his mission to educate us on what he believes is coming and how to protect yourself from the possibility of programmable money. Watch Jim's warning video now before it's censored like I've been in the past. Go to Rickards war room dot com. That's rickardswarroom dot com now to see the video, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, we're working to get a couple of clips in. Also, I want to make sure I haven't put this up yet. Oh, I did on Getter. If we can go together, we're going to do a little live producing here. I've got my trusty sidekick Mo is here. Captain Bannon's here. I'm back. She's back. She's all excited when we have manager reviews on weekends. She was on the Tim Pool show last night, I hope. I know you didn't have time to tell the story, but when we had the press conference and the guy with the red beard, I meant to bring that up to them last night that he claimed to be part of Tim Pool. No, no, no. Not claimed. That's not the. That's not. The buried lead is your. Your cousin, who is kind of used to be my body man, who is fantastic. He's now got a real job. So I have security, and they go, there's a hundred reporters out there. And they go, hey, there's one guy out there we think is a plant or think is a bad guy. And my security goes, we're not gonna let you go out until that. I go, fine. So my nephew goes out, who used to be my body man. It's fantastic. He goes out, he comes back in and says, no, it's all cool. It's all cool. I go, fine. So I go out, I take Tim Miller's question. Tim Miller of msnbc. And people gotta remember Tim Miller was the RNC spokesman. I first started this journey back with Andrew in, I guess, 09. Yeah, 09. With the tea party. 09. When I met. First met Andrew. Tim Miller, then a couple years later, I think, became spokesman for the rnc. Tim Miller, the vicious one on msnbc. So we always ask him, is it pearls or pukas? Is it puka shells or pearls that he's wearing? But so he gets the first question. The second one I'm asking some woman I don't know from Associated Press, and the guy stands up and makes a thing. And of course, he's a. He's a. You know, he's there to disrupt. It's fine. Although at first I thought he had a 357 with him, so I thought it was the end of days, but so he's escorted out. And then afterwards, I sit there and go with my nephew. I go, yo, dude, how did we miss a guy in a red suit with a fake beard and a bandana? I mean, he looked like. When the guy stood up, he's like 6 foot 3. He looks like a clown, but he looks like a dangerous clown. I said, how do we miss that? How do you miss. And he says, oh, I went out and I went out and talked to him directly. I go, then tell me, how did you miss it? How did you miss. This guy's a provocateur and not a journalist. He goes, oh. He told me he was a correspondent for Tim Pool. Wow. Which he is not. Clearly. He's not. He's not. I heard it went very well last night. It did. It was a very good conversation. We talked about multiple topics to include. Did they have other guests? No, it was just. Well, it was some of Tim Poole's team and Then my. Just you. Wow. Oh, Grace. Whoa. You're booked in panels. Whoa. I mean, there were four of us sitting there. No, his team, but no outside people. All people that take part in. We gotta get Grace. Chunk, you and Grace ought to do it together. One time we had mentioned that to them. It was a previous booker at Tim Pool that didn't like that idea. They've restructured. They've restructured that they can run their back to foot. They have. But some of the stuff that we discussed last night and you've talked about this morning, you know, about the left melting down over President Trump's cabinet picks. And he can pick whoever he wants. But like you said, and I think that you looked at my Twitter this morning when you said that purge comment. But he's. Yo, yo. Are you accusing me of lifting? Only Grace can tell me that. Cause Grace sees it. Only Grace can tell me that. It's called an homage. If I lift your stuff, great minds think alike. So I'm just gonna go with that. Like father, like daughter. So I'm not looking for a co star. Okay, don't. You're the CEO. But like father, like daughter. But like I was saying last night that these picks are going to purge the rot that is in D.C. yeah. And the left is melting down because the jig is up. You can't get away with what you were before, and you can't go along to get along anymore here in D.C. and that's why they are so upset, is because they know that it's coming to an end. So the audience, the live chat saying, hey, Steve, can you shut up and let Mo talk? I guess they are looking for a costar. We need to broaden. We need more distribution platforms. No, let's put up. Do we have the Financial Times of London? My Financial Times of London Hard Copy I took with me down to Palm beach and it's somewhere, but I don't have it on me and I want to put it up. Read that headline. The headline says everything. The left is melting down, but they have no power right now. Please understand this. They're not relevant. We control the House, the Senate, small majorities. The only thing holding us back are ourselves. And if I can reiterate this just one more time, if it was not for Trump, you wouldn't have held the House. It was not for Trump, you wouldn't take a majority of the Senate. This is why McConnell kind of had to go, but he got his guy Thune in there, and Thune's kind of axios headline is called the Thune Swoon. Because here in the Imperial Capital, when you say system anti system, the established order and the Rhino Republicans, they are, they are all in it together. They're crying great saltiers down here at the Capitol Grill and all the places where the lobbyists hang out and drink. Right Mo. They're all there. And look at the headline. Kind of Thune is their salvation for the system. I think President Trump gave a huge shout out to Mike Johnson and he's got Mike Johnson back 100% to our beloved President. I disagree with this because he ain't ever going to be there and anything that's ever tough, they're going to have a million one excuses. But the only thing holding us back ourselves, The Democrats have no power. We're arguing amongst ourselves whether we can get Republicans to vote for Trump's confirmation. It shouldn't even be a question. And everybody should understand if you vote against this, you've signed your political career death warrant, your career will be over. And then we got to go up into Maine and dig out Susan Collins and Alaska. You got to get rid of this ranked choice voting. You got to get Murkowski, Murkowski is a Democrat or anybody else that joins my guys going there smack talking them. Do we have the Fox cuts or the other thing the Murdoch's got to understand. I think it'd be best if the Murdaughs got with the program because these Cabinet secretaries are going to be the cabinet secretaries and Matt Gaetz in to be as Attorney General and the team they put around him that's been announced is an amazing team already and he will be the quarterback. So it's going to happen. So don't try your cute stuff by using your puppets like Kilmeade and Trey Gowdy. Do we have the Trey Gowdy clip? Let's go and play it. Trey. You know I had Senator Thune on the incoming Senate majority Leader yesterday and he basically said, listen, it's not going to be easy. Some of these picks are not going to be easy to get through. But there is this mandate just by the vote that there is a feeling that Republican senators in particular, most of them want to give the President what he wants. Some of them will be tough. The overwhelming majority of his picks will sail through because they were grand slam picks. But to Molly's point, you don't root out corruption at the Department of Justice by picking a corrupt person to lead it. So Matt Gates either the report comes out and he's not going to be The Attorney General or the report doesn't come out and he's not going to be the Attorney General. Meet the problem, Brett, is all the good picks. John Lee Radcliffe, Elise Stefanik, Lee Zeldin, Mike Walz, all the good picks. Nobody's talking about those right now. They're talking about this wild card pick of someone who had to get out of the House to avoid being sanctioned by the House Ethics Committee. That dumbfounding pick is just sucking the oxygen out of all the good ones he made. So Trey Gowdy, and by the way, he was to go back in time on the beginning of the Russia collusion, the Russia hoax. Paul Ryan, who hates Trump, is on the board of Fox, forced Devin Nunez, who was Cash Patel's boss. So the cast of characters over there, just Cash Patel was the lead counsel, the chief investigator, and the kind of chief of staff was Colonel Derek Harvey. So we've all worked together for a long time. So you have Cash, you have Derek Harvey, and Devin Nunez, who runs Truth Trump Media, was the head of the intelligence community. And fantastic guy. He, because he was an ally of ours, was removed by Paul Ryan. He said he had conflict, recused him, forced him to recuse. And in the place he put Trey Gowdy, who was on the committee against Shifty, Schiff and Swalwell. And I had the pleasure of spending, I don't know, 20 hours being grilled by these guys looking for perjury traps. All the time being grilled. And the worst was Trey Gowdy. He was trying to dig up stuff on Trump. Trey Gowdy is a traitor. He's a horrible person. Perfect person to be the Murdoch's running dog. The question I've got you talk about House. Trey Gowdy, you left the house, like in the middle of the night as a rising quote, unquote, star. You left, like in the middle of the night. Why did Trey Gowdy step down? You did not take a judgeship. You did not take a U.S. attorney. You did not take that job. You did not take being a judge. You didn't go to a big law firm to make money. And, you know, why did you leave so quickly? I'm asking for a friend. We'd like to know that before you start attacking. Before you start attacking Gates, why did you leave the house? What was it? To leave the house. Now, there's lots of rumors about why you left the house. Of course, here at the War Room, we would never traffic in rumors. So we want to hear from you. But you didn't take being a judge, which would be an obvious choice. You didn't check being a U.S. attorney or attorney for the government, which have been an obvious choice. You didn't take going for a big law firm and getting a payday. Right. You kind of put your shingle up, kind of wandered around. Why would anybody do that? So why don't you explain that first and then we can hear what you got to say about Gates. And look what Trey Getty goes through all the standards. Look, Stefanik's good, Lisa's all good. But that standard stock Republican, they're not guys going to bust the system up. They're not players. They're good people. Lee Stefanik I think will step up. She did a great job. I think over the UN particularly if she gets into the engine room in Geneva could be terrific. And you know, waltz. They always want to go back to the Republican playback. The Republican Party did not win this election. Donald Trump and maga. And MAGA has now increased and guess what? We got some former ex Democrats. That's how you get to two thirds of the country. The Republicans are trying to get you back concentrated so you always minority party. We're not going back there. Your guys days are over running this. That's why Trump controls the Republican Party. The Republican Party essentially the MAGA party and the Murdoch's got to get through their thick heads. They don't call the shots anymore. You're not shot callers. You hate Trump. You try to stop Trump. Heck, they got a thing in Woodward's book how one of the boys had a fundraiser in October of 22 where we're fighting tooth and nail to take the house or the country's over. They give a fundraiser for the Democrats and have Biden there. That's in print and never been refuted by the Murdochs. Trey Gowdy, before you start going off, my man Gates and the President's man Gates, the next Attorney General of these United States, please answer for the audience. Why did you leave so quickly? Why are you not a judge? Why are you not a U.S. attorney? Why don't you go to big law shirts? Why did you just hang a shingle up? Why? Why? It put to bed a lot of the rumors around town of why you left. Bro. I'm just asking for a friend. Can you, can you do that? Can the Fox PR department do that? Can we do that first? Can we clean, you know, clean up your mess first before we start going after Gates who's going to be is President Trump's pick and going to be the Attorney General. Short break I promise I commit to you that Captain Maureen Van is actually going to get to speak the show. Thanks. Short break back. It's obvious the unthinkable continues. Most Americans know something is very, very wrong. The people in charge keep telling you that everything's fine and to stop noticing, but you know better. That's why self reliant folks are investing in emergency food storage and you should too. My patrons apply the nation's largest emergency preparedness company are the ones you can trust. Go to mypatronsupply.com and secure their best selling 3 month emergency food kits. 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I think it's the nineteen four. Is it 1990? I think it's 1995. Is it. They were nine and zero. I thought it was back to the forties, like with the touchdown twins. Also Birchgold, we're always sponsored on Saturday by Birchgold. Can we put up, do we have the Axios? Can we put that up? Axios got an amazing story. I put it up on my getter and if Grace can put it up on Twitter for the war room, we will. This gets down to the complexity of what this audience is perfect for. The complexity of how you actually how Elon and Vivek are going to find $2 trillion or $1 trillion, whatever it is, on an annual basis, not this 10 year. I think the first thing Elon's done is very, very smart. In his talks with people, he says, hey, don't give me the 10 year budget. That's a gimmick from the system. The system gives you these projected out 10 year budgets. And when they talk about trillions, this is what McCarthy tried to sell us on when he got bounced, that this is the greatest amount of cuts ever. 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Just a brilliant guy and he's been such a great contributor show. We really, really love him. Anybody else? No. So I went back and looked about the Army Navy. So in 1949 army was nine and oh, however. Thank you, Captain. However. No, no. 1996 they were 10 and two. They went nine zero and then lost the 10th game. So. Okay, hang on. So don't change. So they were 90 and 95 and 96. 96. One of the reasons Mo was on the volleyball team that was either won the conference championship or went to the playoffs and lost in Conference championship eventually went to first, first woman, first female team division one sport. Never went to the NCAA. Yeah, your, your, your first a year. Right. In 2009. First time in volleyball. And the program history as well, that we went to. Program history, but also of any woman's sport. Yeah. I don't think any other woman's sport at West Point had gone, had gone to the, to, to that pretty extraordinary. 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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4061: "Trump Deserves To Choose Who He Appoints; March Or Die"
Release Date: November 16, 2024
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Podcast Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-the-minute information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon brings medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and those on the front lines for a comprehensive look at the latest news from all angles and provides their insider insights.
In Episode 4061 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the recent cabinet appointments made by President Donald J. Trump. The episode centers on the controversial selection of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the Secretary of Health and Human Services and explores the broader strategy behind Trump's appointment choices. The discussion underscores the formation of an anti-system coalition aimed at dismantling established governmental structures.
Steve Bannon criticizes the appointment of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., labeling him as "perhaps the most high-profile figure in the anti-system world" (00:00). Bannon argues that Kennedy is not merely unqualified but "anti-qualified," suggesting that his expertise would be leveraged to undermine the very institutions he is supposed to oversee.
Notable Quote:
"It's not just that these people are not qualified enough. It's not just that they're totally unqualified. It's that they're anti-qualified." — Steve Bannon (00:00)
Bannon discusses additional cabinet members such as Kristi Noem and Matt Gaetz, emphasizing their alignment with anti-establishment sentiments. These appointments are portrayed as strategic moves to ensure the government's dysfunction, aligning with Trump's broader agenda to overturn the existing political framework.
Bannon highlights how Trump has successfully built a narrow majority by capitalizing on divisions within American society—those who support the existing system versus those opposing it. This "anti-system coalition" comprises individuals disillusioned with governmental institutions, seeking radical changes.
Notable Quote:
"President Elect managed to build a narrow majority with what you might call an anti-system coalition." — Steve Bannon (00:00)
The overarching strategy, as discussed by Bannon, involves appointing officials who are predisposed to dismantle and reconstruct governmental agencies. This approach is likened to "creative destruction," aiming to purge corruption and inefficiency within the administrative state.
Notable Quote:
"The nature of the project is to destroy the government." — Steve Bannon ([Timestamp Unspecified])
Bannon draws parallels between Trump's decisive actions and Abraham Lincoln's historic decisions during the Civil War. By positioning Trump as a "gladiator" akin to Lincoln, Bannon underscores the notion of strong leadership driven by necessity and moral courage.
Notable Quote:
"This is very similar, if you've seen the movie Lincoln, to the incredibly powerful scene over the Emancipation Proclamation." — Steve Bannon ([Timestamp Unspecified])
Bannon lauds Trump’s ability to rally a significant portion of the electorate despite personal and political adversities, likening his leadership style to that of a historical figure determined to steer the nation through turbulent times.
The episode features critical commentary from media figures like Chris Hayes, who argue that Trump's cabinet appointments are detrimental to the nation. Hayes points out the anti-qualified nature of these appointments and warns of their potential to cause governmental dysfunction.
Notable Quote:
"These appointments suggest an attempt to actually make the American government dysfunctional, to make it fall apart..." — Chris Hayes (00:00)
Bannon counters these critiques by asserting that the establishment media fails to recognize the strategic intent behind the appointments. He emphasizes the necessity of these moves to challenge and ultimately reform a corrupt and overbearing administrative state.
Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump is the solution. He's an armor-piercing shell. He's a blunt force instrument." — Steve Bannon ([Timestamp Unspecified])
Bannon asserts that Trump's recent landslide victory is a clear mandate from the American people, indicating widespread support for his anti-establishment agenda. He argues that the electoral success legitimizes Trump's authority to select cabinet members aligned with his vision for America.
Notable Quote:
"The American people rendered a verdict. They put the forces that defend the system... in what they call democracy at the centerpiece of their campaign." — Steve Bannon ([Timestamp Unspecified])
In conclusion, Episode 4061 emphasizes the transformative phase of Trump's administration, marked by strategic cabinet appointments aimed at dismantling and rebuilding governmental institutions. Bannon frames these changes as necessary steps toward restoring American sovereignty and addressing long-standing systemic failures. The episode serves as both a critique of the current establishment and a rallying call for continued support of Trump's anti-system initiatives.
Overall Notable Quote:
"Donald Trump... gets to choose the individuals that will be in his government. This is march or die." — Steve Bannon ([Timestamp Unspecified])
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