Episode 4063: Morning Joe Heads To MAL To Kiss The Ring; Facts About Covid Continues To Come Out

Summary

Summary of "Episode 4063: Morning Joe Heads To MAL To Kiss The Ring; Facts About Covid Continues To Come Out"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Bannon's War Room
• Host/Author: WarRoom.org
• Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-date information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon brings medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and those on the front lines for a comprehensive look at the latest news from all angles and provides their insider insights.
• Episode: Episode 4063
• Release Date: November 18, 2024

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1. Morning Joe’s Meeting with President Elect Trump

The episode opens with Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough discussing their recent meeting with President Elect Donald Trump at Mar a Lago. They express concerns about Trump's cabinet selections and the president's divisive rhetoric.

• Mika Brzezinski shares:

  "In this meeting, President Trump was tearful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues." (01:02)

• Joe Scarborough adds:

  "We talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets." (00:38)

Despite their differences, both agree on the necessity to restart communications, emphasizing the importance of dialogue over continued political warfare.

2. Critique of Morning Joe’s Appearance at Mar a Lago

Stephen K. Bannon provides a scathing critique of Mika and Joe’s visit to Mar a Lago, labeling it as a public plea deal aimed at salvaging their tarnished reputations.

• Bannon remarks:

  "They should be washing the feet of President Trump. Their pilgrimage down to Mar a Lago... was their version of a public plea deal." (03:30)

He accuses the Morning Joe crew of lying to the American people about President Trump’s actions, referencing misleading narratives around events such as January 6th and COVID-19 policies.

3. Ongoing Covid-19 Narratives and the Deep State

The hosts delve into the ongoing discourse surrounding COVID-19, criticizing federal agencies like the FDA and CDC for their handling of the pandemic.

• Dr. Stephen Hatfill discusses:

  "They sabotaged it. These were at the level of the senior federal health agency directors... it was intentional." (38:31)

Bannon and Winters explore theories about the origins of COVID-19, including claims of bioweapon development and collaborations between U.S. agencies and foreign entities.

4. Conservative Media vs. Mainstream Media

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing shifts in the media landscape. Bannon highlights the decline of traditional outlets like the Drudge Report and the rise of alternative conservative platforms such as Citizen Free Press.

• Joe Scarborough states:

  "Leftist media is dying and Drudge is no longer relevant." (23:37)

Bannon emphasizes the importance of platforms that provide what he terms “signal, not noise,” contrasting them with what he perceives as the deceptive nature of mainstream media.

5. Discussion with Derek Harvey on Ukraine and Biden’s Policies

The episode features an interview with Derek Harvey, discussing the Biden administration's decision to supply Ukraine with advanced missile systems and the potential escalation of the conflict.

• Harvey explains:

  "This is potentially significantly escalatory and could widen the war." (30:28)

He argues that the Ukrainian military is struggling against Russian forces and that the increased support is an attempt to provide Ukraine with better negotiation leverage.

Harvey also critiques Biden’s approach to cabinet appointments, suggesting a move away from traditional FBI background checks to private vendors due to perceived corruption within federal agencies.

6. In-Depth Interview with Dr. Stephen Hatfill

Dr. Hatfill provides a comprehensive analysis of the pandemic response, focusing on the alleged sabotage by federal health agencies and the problematic nature of gain-of-function research.

• Hatfill asserts:

  "It’s an outrage. And really people need to be held accountable." (42:53)

He critiques the effectiveness of current pandemic preparedness plans and advocates for a national program to test pharmaceutical compounds for antiviral activity, emphasizing early outpatient treatments over vaccines.

7. Biden Administration’s FCC Appointments and Media Control

Bannon discusses recent appointments within the FCC under the Biden administration, particularly focusing on Brendan Carr and the administration’s stance on broadcast media.

• Carr's stance:

  "When the transition to Trump is complete, the FCC will begin enforcing this public interest obligation." (20:38)

Bannon sees this as a direct challenge to mainstream media outlets, asserting that the incoming administration will clamp down on what he perceives as biased reporting.

8. Final Remarks and Future Outlook

In concluding segments, Bannon reiterates the need for accountability within federal agencies and criticizes the Democratic leadership for perceived corruption and obstruction.

• Bannon emphasizes:

  "What you see is what you get. Promises made, promises kept. And retribution is a pillar." (49:58)

He looks forward to the ramifications of the Trump administration's policies starting January 20th, advocating for a shift towards retribution and accountability.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

1. Mika Brzezinski (01:02):

   "In this meeting, President Trump was tearful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues."

2. Stephen K. Bannon (03:30):

   "They should be washing the feet of President Trump. Their pilgrimage down to Mar a Lago... was their version of a public plea deal."

3. Joe Scarborough (23:37):

   "Leftist media is dying and Drudge is no longer relevant."

4. Derek Harvey (30:28):

   "This is potentially significantly escalatory and could widen the war."

5. Dr. Stephen Hatfill (38:31):

   "They sabotaged it. These were at the level of the senior federal health agency directors... it was intentional."

6. Stephen K. Bannon (49:58):

   "What you see is what you get. Promises made, promises kept. And retribution is a pillar."

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Conclusion

Episode 4063 of "Bannon’s War Room" serves as a critical commentary on current political dynamics, media influence, and public health policies. Through interviews and discussions, the hosts and guests express a strong stance against mainstream media, advocate for conservative media platforms, and critique the Biden administration's handling of both domestic and international issues. The episode underscores a call for accountability and retribution, positioning the upcoming Trump administration as a force for significant change.

Transcript

[Mika Brzezinski]

Last week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President Elect Trump's Cabinet selections. And they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the President Elect himself. On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that. Joe and I went to Mar a Lago to meet personally with President Elect Trump. It was the first time we have seen him in seven years.

[Joe Scarborough]

Now, we talked about a lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit. And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Or over the past decade, that we.

[Joe Scarborough]

Didn'T see eye to eye on a lot of issues. And we told him so.

[Mika Brzezinski]

What we did agree on was to restart communications. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike. We had not spoken to President Trump Since March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. In this meeting, President Trump was tearful. He was upbeat. He seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the President Elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided Washington and the country. We have been as clear as we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President Trump's actions and words in the coarsening of public debate. But for nearly 80 million Americans, election denialism, public trials, and January 6th were not as important as the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White House with their vote. Joe and I realize it's time to do something different. And that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.

[Natalie G. Winters]

It was going to address the cost of housing and the cost of childcare and the cost of food and gas. They didn't vote for this kind of retribution, destruction tour that the President seems now engaged in. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And where do people like that go to share the big L MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Natalie G. Winters]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Monday, the 18th of November in the year of our Lord 2024. Natalie G. Winters. Holding down the fort here in the War Room. Stephen K. Bannon has a court hearing that he has to go to up in New York. He should be joining us by 11. But in the meantime, I think we should have a moment of silence for the Morning Joe crowd, for whatever dignity they may have left. But I guess that's about all the scions we need, because they had none to begin with. Kissing the ring. They should be washing the feet of President Trump. Their pilgrimage down to Mar A Lago, what you just watched on air, it was their version of a public plea deal. I guess their ratings have cratered so much, dwindled down to the tens of thousands maybe. What? That's faster than we've lost all these, I guess, ghost Democratic voters. Yeah. How about this? All your talk of unity, how we need to come together. No, you guys lost. We won. In an overwhelming, sweeping mandate style victory. We get to set the terms and conditions of what victory looks like and save all your unity talk because we know what unity means. It's a Trojan horse for people like the Morning Joe crowd, establishment Republicans, to come and do a hostile land grab and subvert and convert the MAGA agenda into politics as usual. If you've seen anything from the recent cabinet picks. We're not doing politics as usual anymore. And I hope that that sends shockwaves down the spinal cord of everyone. Not just, shall we say, the enemy within here, but the enemy abroad. I'm looking at you, United Nations World Economic Forum. But for all the conservative media that's now running around, oh, it's so great. Morning Joe went down to Mar A Lago. Wow. Yeah, limited hangout. We'll give you the actual signal, not noise here in the war room, because it's a stunning admission that for what, the last four, five, nearly a decade of years, these people have lied to you and they know that they've lied to you about President Trump being what, literally Hitler. Figuratively Hitler. Choose your qualifier. Right. You're all a bunch of Nazis. Well, morning Joe. Well, morning, Mika. That I regret to inform you that you just had. You just shared a meal with Hitler. But let's broaden out this critique, right? It's not just that they lied to you about. Oh, democracy is catering, it's collapsing. They lied to you and they knew it. January 6th, the COVID vaccine, the origins of COVID the mask mandates, the Afghanistan withdrawal, everything. And they sat there in that chair every day, lied to you, lied to the American people. They have have blood on their hands. And now they want to go sit at Mar A Lago and have the nerve to tell you that now we need unity. No, no, no. What we need is accountability. And accountability in the MAGA derivative, the MAGA version of it. Not the Trey Gowdy, weak establishment Republican dialect of accountability, where it's a couple of strongly worded letters and tweets. And these people go on with their lives and they use their security clearances that, don't get me wrong, they're gonna get revoked. They use those security clearances to grift and make even more millions of dollars off of you, the American people. All I can say is that President Trump is a very kind man to have invited that Morning Joe crowd into his home. Mar A Lago, that, what, in August of 2022, was raided by the FBI, cheered on, if not probably planned. They probably have the master plans framed in their house, the schedule, the logistics of how they were gonna raid Mar A Lago back in 2022, that he would invite these people who cheered that on back to Mar A Lago. What a disgrace. I hope they debugged and deloused. Did a nice, thorough industrial grade cleaning of Mar A Lago after those despicable people came and shared a meal with President Trump to bring it to what we concluded that cold open with Adam Schiff. Can't give it a rest. Thank you for mansplaining President Trump's victory to me. How about this? I know you love words that start with R, right? Russia, Russia, Russia. Well, the new sheriff in town, the new word that you can get used to is retribution. It's a nice alliteration there. But I hate to inform you, I know you guys like to lie to the American people about your agenda because secretly you're trying to destroy this country from within. And I guess in your focus groups, that maybe doesn't go over well. Maybe with the enemy within it does, but with most Americans, it doesn't. But we're very serious about what our agenda is. What you see is what you get Promises made, promises kept. And retribution is a pillar. And again, it's not retribution. I think, frankly, that's a victim blaming frame, because it's you guys who need justice for what you've done to this country. It's not weaponization, it's accountability. And to that point, I think retribution is the perfect matrix which we sort of analyze, right, the results of the Biden regime. Is it incompetence or is it the intentional destruction of America that the Biden and of course, their Bolshevik and Marxist counterparts have been plotting for what, decades? Yeah, the long march through the institutions culminating with the 2020 election. Steal. Well, there's a perfect story that I think encapsulates this. The Pentagon. Everyone's favorite agency, right? The one that just, what, legalized assassinations against the American people. Well, conveniently, they've also failed. Now, their seventh audit in a row. But the DOD spin on it. You're going to love this press release. Let's put that up. DOD's 2024 audit shows progress toward 2028 goals. Now, at first glance, the sheer, I would say, mendacity, the audacity to lie to the American people like that, I've never seen more of a euphemistic pr, HR department approved spin. But then you take a step back, and maybe that's just the point, because their 2028 goal is to lie to the American people, steal as much of your taxpayer dollars as they can, and send it to every single country except the right. And now Pete Hegseth. Oh, they found the lady who apparently just realized that she was raped by Pete Hegseth. I guess the whole feminism pitch, trying to couch it in terms of abortion rights, didn't really work out for them with the 2024 election. So now they're doing the same psychological warfare against Pete Hegses. Well, how about this deep state and all the forthcoming accusers that I'm sure we're gonna see? I feel my most feminine, and I'm sure that the war in posse would agree with me when we have real, actually strong, competent men run Pentagon and not wannabe beta males like Mark Milley in charge of making decisions. And when it's people like Mark Milley, frankly, it's not lost on me why people like him would want to appoint a bunch of transgender people to run the military, because maybe it makes them feel like more of a man. No wonder why they want so many women in combat roles, because their testosterone is so lacking. I hope Hegseth brings that same spirit to auditing. The doj that they have applied to his so called whistleblowers for their misuse of taxpayer funds. And while we're at it, maybe the journalists who are so concerned with crazy ladies from what, decades ago accusing now all of a sudden Pete Hegseth of improper conduct that they may be out at the Pentagon with that same level of intensity. I doubt they will. It's quite wild, right? We need experts in the Pentagon. We've been doing so well on foreign policy. That's why we can't have Pete Hegseth. Yeah. Why don't you ask the 13 Gold Star families in Afghanistan what they think about expert rule has gotten us. It's breaking today in NBC that they're already compiling a list of people to court martial under the forthcoming Trump administration. And I would say I can't wait. That can't come soon enough. Now, here's what's so interesting too, because just today, I guess late last night, the Biden regime approved the use of long range missiles in Ukraine in addition to more boots on the ground. They're calling them defense contractors. But here in the war room, we peddle and signal, not noise. We don't fall for the mainstream media spin. Now, I know maybe at the Harvard Kennedy School and all the highfalutin rhetoric about geopolitics, they would, you know, explain to you why democracy is so critical. So it's quintessential to the survival of the United States of America, some backwater country that shares more in common with Russia than probably any other country in the region here in the war room. And for most American people, let's put the elite credentialism aside. We have a war for that. It's called treason because that's what they're doing. They're currently trying to put Ukraine to be in the best possible negotiating place come January 20th when President Trump sits Zelensky and Putin down. And they want to have Zelensky be in a position where he can extract the most concessions possible from Putin and from Donald Trump. And if there is no better example of what treason is, aiding and abetting a foreign country shout out a foreign enemy that has taken over $100 billion, persecuted Christians, stopped elections, even though these people care about democracy so much, stripped us of so much cash that Americans in North Carolina can barely get any flood service, flood relief. Now, the Biden regime in their last few hours, the wee hours of the night, they want to make sure that Zelensky has everything he wants, right? I guess Christmas came early for Zelensky. There's a beautiful new piece, too, in NBC. We're going to get into it. It's quite glorious if you ask me. Obviously, the DOJ being the railhead of so much of this. But how a bunch of DOJ and FBI officials, the ones who were so nonpartisan and never would weaponize the government. Right. We've been told that, well, they're now actively seeking out criminal defense attorneys because they're so scared of retribution. They also cried on election night and Merrick Garland was shocked that Trump won. Well, savior crocodile tears, aptly named for these swamp creatures for your prison cell. Maybe you can ask Stephen K. Bannon for some tips. The Golden Rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Well, deep state DOJ apparatrix. We saw what you did to us. We'll do the same for you. Except the evidence, the facts, the receipts are actually there because you're a bunch of criminals and traitors and guilty of treason. We'll be right back.

[Natalie G. Winters]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

You'Re back in the war room where we are trying to connect with the one and only Kane of Citizen Free Press. I think the studio is going to let me know when we have him up. We have him if we have Kane. I would love to go to him. Kane, I know you picked up on that glorious NBC News story too about the meltdown inside DOJ on election night. I love your thoughts on this sort of weird, you know, oscillating idea. If there is Trump serious on retribution, is he not Just that sort of narrative thread throughout so much of the mainstream media's reporting right now.

[Joe Scarborough]

Yeah, they're running scared, Natalie. That was a great open, by the way. Fantastic. I watched the whole thing. Yeah, that NBC. You saw that NBC story in the stack. I think I've got three red headlines for it. You know, there's so much schadenfreude out there. The headlines. Every morning you wake up and you read about people panicked, suffering, crying, in shock at doj, and I just can't avoid those headlines. It's exciting. It's finally exciting after four years to be able to read headlines where they finally are considering the consequences of their actions, their persecution and prosecution of not only President Trump, but many members of sort of the America first orbit, including the great Stephen K. Bannon. So it's. I don't, you know, I shouldn't be so juvenile, Natalie. I shouldn't get so excited by headlines like that. But when I hear about it, and coming from left media, coming from NBC News and Politico, also had stuff this weekend, when you see headlines, when they're actually admitting that they're scared, that they're panicked, that they're hiring defense lawyers, that they're preparing for extended litigation, if not criminal charges, it feels good. I can't help but be excited by it. So it gets triple red headlines, and everyone in the stack sees it. Can you? Yeah. So one of the other good. If you're still with me, Natalie, One of the other big things that's happened in the last 24 hours is Brendan Carr at the FCC. People who follow the Trump orbit know that Carr was first appointed to the FCC back in, I believe, 2012. He's been a lawyer. That was his original appointment as general counsel for the FCC. But Trump appointed him in 2017 as a special assistant to Ajit Pai, who was running the FCC under Trump. And we got word in the last 24 hours that he will now take over duties at the fcc. And that's big news because, you know, Brendan Carr's pretty active on Twitter and readers may also remember or not. They'll be used to seeing him on Laura Ingram's show. He appears there quite often, and he's made statements just in the past 12 hours, one that DEI is now dead at the FCC. That used to be. He posted a screenshot showing how that was the number two goal of the Biden administration FCC was to sort of spread DEI throughout the airwaves. So that is now dead. And a more recent tweet, which is kind of ominous, which I have at the top of the stack, talks about how all broadcast networks, all public networks, enjoy a privilege in receiving those broadcast rights. And I'll quote him, he says, exactly. Broadcast media have the privilege of using a scarce and valuable public resource, our airwaves. In turn, they are required by law to operate in the public interest. When the transition to Trump is complete, the FCC will begin enforcing this public interest obligation. So right there, that's a shot over the bow of NBC, cbs, abc, MSNBC and CNN and many other outlets that lies and slander of the president and this administration will no longer be tolerated. So I think that's a very positive move, of course.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And Kane, I want to pivot to if the studio wants to toss it up. One of Axios, big stories about the sort of MAGA media landscape post Trump victory. You got a shout out from our very own Stephen K. Bannon how you have essentially overtaken Drudge. So I think that may be an understatement. I know the studio also has pictures of just some absolutely wild web traffic, a testament to just the brilliance of cfp. But I'd love to sort of get your broader thoughts on the sort of reshaping that we're seeing underway when it comes to media, alternative media. Obviously, the left attributing their loss to the idea that, you know, Kamala Harris didn't do Joe Rogan. Not quite. But your thoughts on that landscape and how it's shaping up.

[Joe Scarborough]

Yeah, that was quite an article in Axios. That was written by Sarah Fisher, if people want to look that up from last. I believe it was last Thursday or Friday, essentially. You've seen it, Natalie. Leftist media is dying. Boot Liquor media is dying. Washington Post lost 250,000 subscribers. I believe in the 48 hours after the election, they're tuning out and shutting off and not using their phones. So what is, you know, what has sort of grown in their place? It's this alternative conservative media ecosystem. And Drudge is one of the is one of the easiest places to see the death. You know, Drudge, people who follow him know that he used to once a month put up this headline, thanks a billion. And he would say Drudge Report with 1.2 billion page views this month. And this was, you know, 2016 after Trump won, and then 2017, and he's been in a steep decline since. As most readers know, Drudge went to the dark side. He completely backed Democrats, went against Trump. And what is his traffic done? Well, it had fallen from 1.2 billion to 500 million as of about four months ago. And in the last four months it's fallen another 50% from down to about 250 million. I sent you a screenshot and I think, yeah, you've got it up there. 200. There's my scribbles at the bottom of 255 million. So that's his traffic in the last 30 days or 31 days, just the month of October. So imagine your Drudge. You're used to doing 1.2 billion and now you do 2 billion. So, and then I'll throw in at the end, you know, Citizen Free Press has been a big beneficiary of it. We in the same month of October, when he did 255, we did about 450 and we're going to do 550 to 560 million. This month we had election day was 31 million page views. I'm sure that was probably close to what Drudge or double what Drudge does. So, you know, let's dance on their grave a little bit. Leftist media is dying and Drudge is no longer relevant.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No amount of mar a Lago meetings can save you. Maybe Drudge is going to be flying down there, whoever runs the site to try to get back into Trump's good graces. Cane, obviously the site, it's always updated, loads so fast. It's amazing. We love the stack. If people want to read it, check it out. Follow you guys on Twitter. Truth. Where can they go to do all that?

[Joe Scarborough]

That's right. Citizen Free Press across all platforms. And as you said, from 8am to 2am, I'm updating stories. It loads in half a second. Sometimes there are stories secretly posted there by Natalie Winters, believe it or not, early in the morning. So if you get there early, you're going to get a benefit.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sometimes hosting War Room isn't enough. We have to have full spectrum media dominance and Citizen Free Press is a crucial part of that whole operation. Kane, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon.

[Joe Scarborough]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Of course, that is what we call a suppository of democracy. When your mainstream media lies don't cut through and your praetorian guard of censorship doesn't work. And the American people are giving the ability the transparency to actually make decisions for themselves. President Trump wins the popular vote and I really look forward to the ramifications of that, particularly in the context of DOJ and Merrick Garland. You know, we're told by what these same shows that no one wants to watch that it's the war room. Who's so anti democracy and so anti rule of law. Again, always the humble check or a constitutional republic. But we actually love the rule of law here in the war room. We love the rule of law here in the war room so much that we think people who defy congressional subpoenas, like, I don't know, Merrick Garland, while if Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon had to go to prison for four months, then let's have some rule of law and let's send Merrick Garland to jail, too, right? That would only be fitting and fair. Or do you think you're special, Merrick Garland? You weren't special enough to get a seat on the Supreme Court. And I know Stephen K. Bannon played a critical role in that. I look forward to your resignation come January 20th. Right. These people, why they're trying to already get their lawyers. And there's a brilliant piece in Politico today. Remember Mark Zaid, the impeachment lawyer, the one who went on cnn, made waves about advising his clients to have the go bags ready and go take trips overseas. Emphasis on countries without extradition treaties. Well, now Politico has a huge piece. Think you'll be targeted by the next Trump administration? This lawyer has some advice. You know why they're so scared? Because they saw what they could do to patriotic Americans by bringing cases where there was no evidence. I'm not even talking circumstantial evidence. There was absolutely nothing. They saw what they were able to fabricate. Take the whole Russia hoax as an example. So imagine what you can do with the power of the state, the power of main justice, when actual crimes have been committed and we don't even know the whole breadth and depth of it. Because these people have what they're already shredding documents. Well, let's see. In the spirit of democracy, in the spirit of transparency and the rule of law, maybe you all should be preserving your documents. You can flee the country and go take your vacations doing God knows what, but you'll need to come back because you're going to have some court dates coming pretty soon. Right? For the people this country was set up for. To be what? A laboratory for freedom and civil liberty and individual rights. These people have treated this country as a practice zone, as a test run, as a battleground for weaponization and censorship and depriving you of your ability to weigh and measure the truth, replete with a censorship industrial complex, an actual military industrial complex, and a lying mainstream media. Go to Mar A Lago have all the meetings you want. You're not going to change the line. We don't want unity with people who hate this country and we won. So we get to set the conditions in terms of victory. We'll be right back.

[Natalie G. Winters]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bam, you're back in the war room. Like I said, the Biden regime is doing everything they can to give Zelensky all they can and more apparently. What? Nearly $200 billion isn't enough? You got Joe Biden meeting with Xi Jinping, his what, business partner and sugar daddy. All that aside, by the way, you gotta make sure you're checking out birchgold.com Bannon who knows what last minute, last ditch efforts the Biden regime is gonna pull to try to tank this economy and de dollarize our entire future in their true America last style. But we're joined now by Derek Harvey who I wanted to bring on to walk us through what I think really can only be described as the escalation of everything that's going on in Ukraine allowing these long range missiles. Can you sort of walk the audience through what exactly these capabilities are and how you think it's going to shape the Ukraine conflict at least until January 20th.

[Derek Harvey]

Yes. Thanks Natalie. I'm glad to be here to talk about this. The decision by the Biden administration to give permission for the Ukrainians to use the ATACMS and army tactical ballistic missile system that has a range of 190 miles and has lethal warheads and very accurate. Also they're saying that this will be used in a limited way under some restrictions, but they're authorizing it for deeper strikes. And at the same time, this is going to pave the way for the British and French systems which have longer range, you know, up to 300 plus miles and 990 pound warhead. And they're highly accurate. And they're saying they're going to be used to strike depots, military targets, communications centers, logistics, ammo stockpiles and the like. The stated purpose is to response to North Korea sending troops and the expected Russian offensive to retake Russian territory around the city of Kursk. And so they're trying to confine it and bound it in some ways. But the Russians are talking about this being a dire, a dire situation and at risk, significant escalation. And you know, we've been restrained for three years because we did not want to risk escalation and provoking the Russians to strike outside of Ukraine or to use more lethal weapons and capabilities inside of Ukraine. So this is potentially significantly escalatory and could widen the war.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And I'm just curious, do you sort of agree with the analysis here that they're trying to prop up Zelensky as much as they can so he has the most ground to sort of negotiate from, you know, when Trump brings them to the table or what else do you think is going on here to precipitate this reversal or this decision rather right now?

[Derek Harvey]

Well, I think the situation on the ground is not going well for Zelensky and the Ukrainian military. And the Russians have been massing tens of thousands of troops and bringing in new capabilities along with the North Korean's initial force structure of about 10,000. But they could be bringing tens of thousands more to support the Russian campaign. But you know, the Ukrainian forces, despite all the Western assistance, are being worn down and it's not going well and we're going to be heading into a very cold winter. And Russia has been escalating its attacks on electrical grid, other infrastructure, communication centers and urban areas, particularly in the Kiev area. So this is a message to stop de escalation and to possibly stall any major offensive to retake Russian territory or to gain more territory in the eastern provinces of Ukraine.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The mainstream media is also in meltdown that the Trump transition team is potentially looking to use either private vendors or just not go the traditional route of FBI background checks for a lot of their nominees. I'm just curious your thoughts on that pivot.

[Derek Harvey]

Well, I think it makes sense and Keep in mind that other administrations have refused to use the FBI in whole or in part for the background investigations. And when you're dealing with a corrupt FBI, which I believe it has been corrupt, and it has used the security clearance process in malign ways in the past, you know, you have to be highly suspicious. And why would you rely on it? I would also say, though, that, you know, a cabinet secretary and the president have the authority to completely override the recommendations of any background investigation recommendation from the FBI. So, you know, those are two things to look at. But again, I think this is a smart move and it's not tied to any particular problem. In my view, it's because of the past behavior of the FBI and the precedent has been set by other administrations.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Colonel Harvey, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis on everything. Where can they go to do that?

[Derek Harvey]

Well, first and foremost, go to DerekHarvey.org and that's my website. And then if you would want to follow me on Twitter, it's Colonel Dharvey. And then on Truth Social, it's just Derek Harvey.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Derek, thank you so much for joining us. We will have you back on soon.

[Derek Harvey]

Thanks, Natalie.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Of course. Just a note on all of these appointments requiring Senate confirmation last night it was sort of a weird situation. A reporter from the New Yorker tweeted out that Mitch McConnell said there will not be recess appointments. That's right. The same GLITCH In Mitch McConnell who I don't think anyone has ever cared what he thinks. But then they deleted the tweet and there's a bit of weird reporting circumstances. Anyways, shot across the bow, being fired, of course, from the McConnell Republican wing. Wing of the Republican Party, rather. But I just want to flag for Mitch McConnell. Right. Very interesting word choice there. There will not be recess appointments. He doesn't even say there should not be. You're entitled to your opinion, but you don't get to dictate the policy, frankly, for the entirety of this country, but let alone in the Senate anymore. And if Thune or whoever's actually running the show, pulling the strings there, the dead hand that's controlling that historic body, well, then they can face the wrath of this audience and a lot of phone calls because weird tweets coming from Mitch McConnell. I'd love to see those go up to bat against the war room posse and the power of your phone calls because I'd humbly fact check you, Mitch McConnell, that there will be recess appointments and particularly I'd love to watch the, what, 20 Republican senators who voted for Merrick Garland, America last weaponization incarnate, and the 48th that voted for Deputy AG Lisa Monaco. I'd love to watch all of you, except explain how you voted for them and not Matt Gaetz. Love to watch you try to square that logic train. Oh wait, you can't. And I'm sure if you did, we'd probably look into your FEC filings and all the weird PAC money that's been propping you up and what you guys have been doing in your free time. Because maybe just through those data points, through that metadata, we'd be able to figure out exactly why you don't support Matt G. I am honored to be joined by the brilliant Dr. Stephen Hatfill, a star of the war room pandemic days, who I want to bring back on. There's some breaking news coming out from CDC Director Robert Redfield. But before we get to that, there was a piece in the Atlantic just last week entitled There really is a deep state and I want to read a synopsis or part of the article. Whether you know it or not, you've likely seen this deep state in action. It was the reason Trump's preferred treatment for Covid during the early phases of the pandemic hydroxychloroquine was not flooding pharmacies and it was why Covid vaccines were not rushed out before the 2020 presidential election. Both of those efforts were stopped by civil servants, despite overt pressure from Trump and officials in his administration. Quite a stunning admission that the deep state exists. Again, not something that we've exactly been unsure of here in the war room, but I'm just curious your thoughts on sort of this evolving narrative, the stunning admission that these civil servants did sabotage the Trump pandemic agenda and your just sort of take on that.

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

Yeah, the evidence is quite clear. They sabotaged it. And these were at the level of the senior federal health agency directors. And that cedar at the fda. This was an intentional act and as a result hundreds of thousands Americans lost their lives from COVID 19 we fought against this all of 2020 even after they'd withdrawn the EUA. We're still trying to get a reassessment of it and the FDA and the CDC particularly just simply refused. It was intentional. It was to make way for more high priced drugs such as Remdesivir, which actually never worked. Terrible trial in China. It never should have been issued in the ua. And then the highly experimental messenger RNA vaccines, we're still seeing the fallout from these and the Fact of our, our reduction in lifespan in the United States, we have one of the lowest lifespans in the developing world for our population. So it's an outrage. And really people need to be held accountable. And I think with this new administration and same people back in control, that this will be able to proceed quite quickly. Looking forward to it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And Dr. Hatfill, I'm just curious. You know, the media seems to say, oh, these people are just obsessed with the pandemic. They keep wanting to go four years back into the past. But I think it's so important because the past is prologue. Right? This was sort of a test run for the deep state to amass and consolidate as much power as they can, whether through the leverage that we have at potentially hh, nhs, DOJ, or any of these agencies. Where would you suggest looking into not just having a myopic view that it's about COVID but more broadly how public health has been weaponized against the American people. What do you think are sort of the pillars or levers that the forthcoming administration needs to be looking into?

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

Well, we can't fix anything. We don't have a pandemic preparedness at the moment. We had one in 2005 and six, but that plan was destroyed over the years mainly under the Obama administration. And then the actions of John Bolton didn't help anything. So it's essentially going Back to the 2005 plan, which parts of it had been rehearsed. It was a good plan. It would have worked excellent for COVID 19. But we need to identify what happened here. No planning scenario, no war game, no pandemic exercise ever envisioned that senior federal health agencies would fail to follow the science. For other goals which still need to be determined. There needs to be some radical changes at both the cdc, the fda. There's a good start to bringing the NIH back into line with the recent appointment of the new NIH director. But the FDA remains. It can't be allowed to exist in its present form. And the CDC way exceeded its mandate under HHS. Quite frankly, the CDC needs to be moved out of HHS. All during the pandemic, they were funding about a $10 billion program of propaganda directed by the CDC with inaccurate statements all the way along that the vaccines were safe, effective, prevented infection. They never did any of these things. They were never the clinical trials that were done when they were reanalyzed.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And Dr. Hatfield, we have to jump to break, but I want to hold you through if you can stay with us. We know safe and effective just like what? The 2020 election was the most safe and secure, right? Yeah, not quite. You know what is the best coffee? It's Warpath coffee. You got to make sure you're checking out war path.coffee promo code war room. It's Steve's favorite and he has the best taste, so, you know, it's got to be good. Dr. Hatfield, so much more. And I think Stephen K. Bannon later on in the show.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. You're back in the war room. We're still joined by Dr. Stephen Hatfill, who I wanted to bring on to address breaking news. Quite, I would say, insane comments coming from former SEA director Robert Redfield speaking about the origins of COVID not just giving you the limited hangout version, saying that Covid was what intentionally developed as a bioweapon by the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but could potentially be traced back to a little name that war room devotees may remember. Ralph Barrick. Everything that was going on in North Carolina. Right. We always say the only reason why Fauci says he's an expert in Covid is because, well, he helped fund the whole damn project that created it. Dr. Hatfill, your thoughts sort of walking through Redfield's revelations and just the broader assessment that Covid is potentially a byproduct of shall we call it foreign collusion between our deep state and the Chinese Communist Party?

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

Well, we know that there was cooperation personnel from the affiliated with the People's Republic of China, the PLA army were trained and shown how to make mouse chimeras, that is mice that have certain human proteins in there, specifically the ACE2 receptor, or they call them transhumanized mice, which acts as the receptor for the SARS CoV2 virus. And this makes a very inexpensive experimental animal if you're doing gain of functions studies, putting in furin cleave sites and this type of thing. So it's my understanding too, of the Wuhan Laboratory coronavirus people had come over and were working in Barrick's lab, learning how to create these transgenetic mice, which is sort of the key for any sort of weaponization program.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'm curious, Dr. Hatfill, your thoughts on the gain of function research? Obviously, there's a lot of discussion about banning it or at least federal funds. But could you see this style of research, if it gets banned or continue to be banned on the federal level, being sort of pivoted or then sold out to private entities funding it? Or how do you think we best combat this sort of weird nexus between pandemic prevention and the convenient, no pun intended, spillover, where the people who are supposed to be invested in pandemic prevention are also the ones that profit off of pandemics actually materializing?

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

Well, the concept behind gain of function originally was to try to identify strains in nature that had the potential to cause human pandemics. What if we started seeing an influenza virus accumulating certain mutations? You know, this would be something, a strain that we would want to watch. But in practicality, it's really not an effective defense mechanism. Most of these RNA viruses are very rapidly mutating and you can identify, like, we think this strain is going to complete final mutations. And, you know, you can have your vaccine ready and you can try immunizing your population, but by the time you've immunized everyone, the virus has already changed and there's a vaccine escape mutant. So vaccines aren't really the way to go with these things. The way that you control a pandemic is with early outpatient treatments. We have some over 20,000 pharmaceutical compounds that never quite made it to market that we need to test these to see if they have any antiviral activity. This needs to be a national program done at our national labs. We've already had some good examples, a very common diuretic called spironolactone has been found to completely inhibit replication of the Epstein Barr virus because of mononucleosis and Hodgkin's disease associated. So these drugs are out there, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. These were all drugs that were for a different purpose but were found to have significant antiviral activity. We need to start a crash program on this as soon as possible looking at the 26 viral families, representatives from each of those families, maybe four or five representatives and testing them against all of these compounds.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah. Dr. Hatfield, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis on all of this breaking news. Where can they go to do that?

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

They can go to drstevenhatfill.com we have a book coming out in about a week's time called Unmasked which delves into a deep dive from the front row seats for the COVID 19 pandemic. What happened, who did what and how we should attempt to fix this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Dr. Hatfeld, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on.

[Dr. Stephen Hatfill]

Nice to be with you, Natalie.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Of course. And speaking of gain of function, I think Republicans in Congress could use some of that to grow a backbone and a spine. Denver, let's roll the Mike Johnson clip.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Want us to get back to full stop. No, we don't. And no is a complete sentence. We don't need more legal immigration, illegal immigration. We sure as hell don't need to continue screwing over American workers by doling out visas like candy to people who hate this country and view it much like Republicans in Congress. Congress as a special economic zone to boost profit margins and make big donors and corporations happy while turning what America into frankly a penal colony for the worst of the worst coming from some of the most backwards, perverse and I guess in the case of Haiti, what voodoo ridden countries. Yeah, the American people never voted in on that. Voted for that. Makes the quartering act look like child's play. We know what the colonists did when that happened, although a little bit of a bright spot. I do believe a lot of the Haitians in Springfield have already started to self deport. That's at least being reported in the Guardian. I guess they know maybe a little better than what's going on at Doj or all the DC Elite that what? Retribution's coming and the mass deportations are, well, not just a figment of our imagination, but they're gonna be codified government policy. So get used to it or get schedule effed. Though I do love the de facto schedule F with so many of these wonderful appointments like Gates, Gabbard, Hegseth, you name it. I think we got Stephen K. Bannon joining us next block. Hopefully we will make that happen. We'll be right back.

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