Episode 4098: Did The American People Get A Payout; Populist's Power to Take On The System

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4098

Title: Did The American People Get A Payout; Populist's Power to Take On The System
Release Date: December 3, 2024
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-date information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon engages with medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline individuals to provide a comprehensive look at the latest news and insider insights.

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1. The Rise of Right-Wing Populism

Timestamp: [00:00 – 01:58]

The episode opens with a discussion on the enduring trend of right-wing populism in the United States and globally. Joe Scarborough draws historical parallels to the 1968 election, highlighting the gradual decline of New Deal liberalism over twelve years, culminating in Ronald Reagan's presidency.

Notable Quote:

"It's a really strong sentiment in the public to get rid of old institutions, to overthrow the status quo."
— Joe Scarborough [00:55]

Stephen K. Bannon characterizes the current political climate as the "primal scream of a dying regime," emphasizing the growing public desire for systemic change.

Notable Quote:

"If my task and purpose is to save my country, this country will be saved."
— Stephen K. Bannon [02:10]

2. Impact of the 2008 Financial Crisis

Timestamp: [01:38 – 03:00]

Bannon delves into the repercussions of the 2008 financial crisis, criticizing the lack of accountability among elites who received bailouts while ordinary Americans did not. He argues that this disparity fueled populist movements, leading to increased public distrust in established institutions.

Notable Quote:

"The financial collapse, they saw Wall Street oligarchs raping and pillaging the American people."
— Stephen K. Bannon [03:00]

3. Donald Trump's Role in Populism

Timestamp: [03:00 – 15:00]

Bannon discusses Donald Trump's influence on the populist movement, asserting that Trump's leadership has galvanized public sentiment against the "greedy oligarchs" and the "deep state." He highlights Trump's recent actions, including imposing significant tariffs and his negotiations on international matters like the situation in Ukraine.

Notable Quote:

"Trump is a disruptor, he's got the power to dismantle the system."
— Stephen K. Bannon [14:20]

4. Confirmation of Cash Patel and Pete Hegseth

Timestamp: [16:20 – 28:20]

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the Senate confirmation processes for key Trump-appointed officials, specifically Cash Patel for FBI Director and Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. Mika Brzezinski and Mike Davis advocate fervently for these nominations, arguing their qualifications and aligning them against perceived deep state adversaries.

Notable Quotes:

"Cash Patel is highly qualified for FBI Director... he's thoroughly vetted."
— Mike Davis [19:10]

"Pete Hegseth is clearly qualified to serve as the Secretary of Defense. He's someone who fought in wars for the United States."
— Mike Davis [27:09]

5. Tariffs and International Trade Policies

Timestamp: [35:57 – 44:39]

The discussion shifts to international trade, with Bannon and guest Jim Rickards analyzing President Trump's imposition of 25% tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China. They examine the potential repercussions of these tariffs on global economies and the US dollar's dominance.

Notable Quote:

"If you're going to mess around here, if you're going to try to get an alternative currency, you're going to pay a premium of 100% tariff."
— Stephen K. Bannon [46:21]

6. The BRICS and Alternative Currencies

Timestamp: [44:39 – 52:35]

The conversation delves into the BRICS nations' attempts to create alternative financial systems to the US dollar. Cash Patel discusses the feasibility of a common currency based on gold, critiquing the global financial elites' strategies and advocating for the US to bolster its gold reserves to maintain economic supremacy.

Notable Quote:

"The BRICS already have a common currency. No one understands it. It's called gold."
— Cash Patel [48:07]

7. Economic Warfare and Sanctions

Timestamp: [50:28 – 54:00]

Addressing economic strategies, Patel differentiates between tariffs and sanctions, emphasizing that sanctions equate to financial warfare. He criticizes the US's use of sanctions against Russia and China, arguing that they push these nations to seek alternatives to the US dollar.

Notable Quote:

"Sanctions are financial warfare. That's an act of war."
— Cash Patel [51:08]

8. The Importance of Diversification and Financial Preparedness

Timestamp: [15:00 – 28:20] & [44:39 – 55:48]

Throughout the episode, Bannon promotes financial strategies such as diversifying savings into physical gold through Birch Gold Group, highlighting the instability of the current economic system driven by national debt and deficits.

Notable Quote:

"Diversify your savings. That's why buy gold from Birchgold."
— Stephen K. Bannon [15:00]

9. Health and Emergency Preparedness Advertisements

Timestamp: [16:20 – 55:48]

Interspersed with the main discussions are segments promoting various health and emergency preparedness products. Bannon advertises products like Bircho Gold, emergency food kits from My Patriot Supply, and health supplements from War Room Health.

Notable Quote:

"Hope is not a plan. My Patriot supply is a plan."
— Stephen K. Bannon [16:20]

Note: These promotional segments have been acknowledged but are omitted from the core thematic summary.

10. Conclusion: Mobilizing Support for Populist Policies

Timestamp: [28:20 – 55:48]

The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to support the populist movement by engaging in the confirmation processes, advocating for Trump's appointments, and participating in financial and political movements aimed at dismantling the deep state.

Notable Quote:

"This is how we're going to destroy the deep state, reform the FBI, destroy the deep state and actually bring justice for this republic."
— Mike Davis [22:11]

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Overall Insights and Conclusions:

• The episode underscores the persistent strength and global influence of right-wing populism, fueled by public disillusionment with financial elites and established institutions.
• Donald Trump's role as a central figure in this movement is emphasized, portraying him as a disruptor capable of challenging and dismantling entrenched systems.
• The confirmation of key Trump-appointed officials like Cash Patel and Pete Hegseth is portrayed as pivotal in reforming the FBI and Defense Department to align with populist ideals.
• International trade policies, particularly tariffs against BRICS nations, are discussed as strategic moves to maintain the US dollar's dominance and counteract alternative financial systems.
• The importance of financial preparedness through diversification into tangible assets like gold is highlighted as a safeguard against economic instability.
• The episode calls for active listener participation in supporting populist policies and ensuring the success of Trump's initiatives.

Final Thoughts:

Episode 4098 of Bannon's War Room presents a fervent defense of right-wing populism, framing it as a necessary force to counteract entrenched financial and political elites. Through a combination of historical parallels, critiques of current economic policies, and advocacy for strategic political appointments, the episode aims to mobilize listeners to actively participate in reshaping the American political landscape.

Transcript

[Joe Scarborough]

First of all, don't put me in a corner where I never went. I am not saying the Democratic Party is finished and needs to be rebuilt from scratch. You've been talking about some historical parallels. I would draw an analogy. And Joe, you remember to 1968 when Richard Nixon barely defeated the incumbent vice president who had taken over for the incumbent president who had withdrawn from the race. That was a really close election, but it signaled a change, a big change, which was the end really, of New Deal liberalism. It didn't happen all at once. It took maybe 12 years until Ronald Reagan swept it away in 1980. But that's, that's where I'm looking. More a trend, which is the trend toward populism, right wing populism. It's a global phenomenon.

[Mika Brzezinski]

It's.

[Joe Scarborough]

Yes, Mika, you're right. It's been coming in this country for eight years. But the fact that Donald Trump won again despite being pretty unpopular, despite having tried to overthrow an election, despite being a convicted felon, tells me that that trend, that sentiment in the public to get rid of old institutions, to overthrow the status quo, it's a really strong one. Strong enough to reelect this. I would say degenerate felon. And Democrats would be foolish not to look at that and say we may be defending a status quo that the country has had enough of.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Pray for our enemies because we're going.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Medieval on these people.

[Mika Brzezinski]

I got a free shot on all.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

These networks lying about the people.

[Mika Brzezinski]

The people have had a belly full of it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you don't like hearing that.

[Mika Brzezinski]

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[Mike Davis]

It's going to happen.

[Raheem Kassam]

And where do people like that go.

[Mika Brzezinski]

To share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Mika Brzezinski]

War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Three, two, one. Welcome. It's Tuesday the 3rd of December, year of our Lord 2024. Of course, morning Joe always gets it wrong. There actually is a right wing populist movement in this country and it's been going on since the Tea Party. Actually before then, they also get wrong the 1968 election because there was another candidate in the race, Hubert Humphrey in the New Deal got or not just New Deal liberalism, but Great Society liberalism started to get blown out starting in 68. But here, this started, sir, not eight years ago. President Trump delivered a hammer blow eight years ago. It started with the 2008 financial crisis. The 2008 financial crisis that was brought on by the elites of this country who have never been held accountable for it. Did you get a bailout after 2008? No, you did not. Did the elites get a bailout in 2008? Yes, they did. On the day that Lehman Brothers Collapsed back in 2008, John McCain and Barack Obama were tied in the Gallup poll. Actually, McCain might have been up slightly. McCain and Sarah Palin. Chris McCain held his call, you know, put his campaign on abeyance, went to D.C. looked like a buffoon, didn't know what he was doing. Then eventually kind of got blown out by Barack Obama because people wanted. What? What did they want? Repeat after me. They wanted hope and change. Marill Bomber had run as an anti war populace against the Clinton machine in the primary the previous winter and spring. And that's what people were back and they wanted change. And when they saw the ballots, they saw the financial collapse, they saw Wall street, the greedy oligarchs on Wall street once again doing what greedy oligarchs on Wall street do, which is rape and pillage the American people. They want to change. They didn't get it immediately because Obama in that regard was way over his head. Geithner and Bernanke and Hank Paulson, all that crowd, right, were able to get around him. Of course, Hank Paulson was the failed secretary treasury of Bush, who kind of brought it on Bush, the worst president in the United States except for President Buchanan right before the Civil War. So there is a populist movement, populist movement worldwide. I've been very honored to be a small part of that, to keep that going on a worldwide basis. And in fact, we're going to speak later today. Le Pen, speaking of right wing Front national or national assembly, whatever they call themselves now, is about to bring down the French government and Parliament at the same time. Macron is sitting there begging President Trump to come and hang out for the weekend. Yes, as President Trump goes and shows he's the defender of the Judeo Christian west by being at the opening of Notre Dame Cathedral, the reopening, of course, the Pope Francis beneath him. It's not a synod on senility or whatever the madness they call that. It's not celebrating some pagan religion in the Amazon River. So obviously the Pope's not going to be there for that. But President Donald Trump will be quite impressive, quite impressive. If you're going to miss the I guess he's not going to miss the Army Navy and maybe we can get him to Army Navy because Biden won't go right wing populism to get it wrong. It's from 2008. The fuse that was lit in the Oval Office of Bush made sure ensured that was in September 2008 when the collapse really took place, ensured Obama's presidency, but ultimately ensured a right wing response to that, as always happens in a financial collapse. And here we are today with President Trump coming back, by the way, his third victory. Let me repeat that. His third victory, but getting ready for a second term. Of course, in the second term. What are they going to do? They're trying to steal the second term even as we speak. And this is why I keep saying, folks, it's fixed bayonets, let's get up out of the trenches right now. We have to. Because in every way they're trying to in three ways. We're going to have today, Jim Rickards is going to join us. Raheem Kassam is going to join us. Jack Basoba is going to join us. Jason Trenard, we're gonna have a couple of three of those in studio in West Palm Beach. We're gonna be down here in Palm Beach, I think for the week. Maybe in a little bit into next week. We'll have to see how, we'll figure it out, how this plays. But you're seeing right now an absolute resistance to President Trump, what he's trying to do, the war. And this is where we're having Posobic on the situation in Ukraine announced overnight. The Biden administration went out yesterday and said, hey, you gotta raise 500,000 combat troops. You have to have a draft. You must do it now. Now what happens, you're seeing the desertion. I think 200,000 combat troops have either failed to report for duty after taking leave, are deserting the front as the Ukrainian front collapses in front of a Russia, Russian offensive, only to make President Trump's situation and his ability to negotiate a peace deal that much harder. Of course, you got the situation in Syria just announced. South Korea has declared martial law. We're going to figure what that's about as Biden yesterday cut off, which I agree with, cut off the Chinese Communist Party from really access to advanced chips. I would actually make the analogy, folks, that this may be equivalent to cutting off Imperial Japan from oil in late the late 1930s, I think around 1938, 39. The real, I think the real embargo really kicked in. 40 and 41, the third world war is upon us and they're trying to box in President Trump from various alternatives. Also, we're going to talk about the bond market. This has been coming up. The bond vigilantes, they're harkening back to people that hate President Trump, hate the populist movement, the Wall street oligarchs saying, oh, the bond market's going to save the progressive left, that what happened to Liz Truss is going to happen to Donald Trump. Well, guess what, that's the exact opposite. President Trump is quite savvy. Scott Besant knows capital markets. We're going to have Jason Trenard here. We're going to walk through that. Why this is the new angle of attack they're making on the situation in the bond market. I told you. They're going to try to jam up President Trump for making the cuts he's got to make. Of course, the Economist. The Economist is out today with a huge article. You know what they blame? America not making this up, folks. You can't make it up. You know what they blame the deficits on? You know what they blame the spending on? In fact, we're the economists. Remember the economists and Financial Times of London are both from the same company. And one's the magazine, the other's the newspaper and they're kind of the People magazine. They're the magazine and newspaper of the global financial elite in the world to kind of run the deal today. Huge, huge, huge piece that will break down probably tomorrow when we have time. And that is that the cause of all this is veterans benefits are too good. We're paying the combat veterans, particularly the ones that fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. They've got it too good. It's just too crazy. It's too over the top. Remember the global elites, what they're in, particularly in the United States, the wealthy. Here's what they're monetically focused on. The little 1200 bucks you get from Social Security, the care you get from Medicare, what you worked your entire life and supported this entire apparatus. They're obsessed with that. They're obsessed at taking that away from you because you're the, you're the problem. Now it's veterans benefits. Veterans benefits, people that volunteered to serve the country, something the Economist folks never did. No global elites. But you're the problem as we get into this about setting our financial house in order, our economic house in order. Don't think they're just going to roll over and say, okay, I got it. Let's have tax. Let's have populist tax cuts, let's have cuts on Social Security, let's have cuts on overtime, let's have cuts on tips. Let's do all that. Let's have all those cuts. Let's do it. And, and yes, that money go back to the people, put discretionary income in their pocket, and they'll get the blessings of liberty as we deconstruct the administrative state. No, no, no, that's not going to happen. You are the problem to them, and now you're the real problem because you've risen up and had the back of Trump. And so Trump's a disruptor. And Trump has nominated people like Pete Hegseth over defense and Cash Patel at the FBI and Bobby Kennedy at HHS going after the military industrial complex, the legal intelligence complex, the biopharmaceutical medical complex. That's not what they want. They control those. They make a lot of money and they put you in servitude. New stories out today saying how Generation Z in axios of all places, Generation Z saying, hey, we're tired of being Russian serfs and we don't like a future that says we're going to be Russian serfs. We want to throw this over. We are at the beginning of a populist takeover of this country and they hate it. But trust me, folks, they're not going to sit there and go, oh, this is terrific. You got Trump, you got Bannon, you got Tucker, you got others. Yeah, all these guys screaming populism this, populist that. No, these people get a little taste of it. The American people get a little taste of it. Civilians get a taste of it. Citizens get a taste of it. African American and Hispanic community get a taste of it. A power, real power. Power to take on the system, power to dismantle the system. Power that Republicans talked about for 30 and 40 years. And even to the revered Ronald Reagan, who. I was the official filmmaker out at the Reagan ranch for many years. I revere President Reagan, but President Reagan, even President Reagan could never get control of the apparatus. He couldn't. Part of that was Jim Baker and the Bush people taking over the second term and Nancy Reagan kind of putting her folks in there in the first term. Now you have the ability to deconstruct the administrative state. And you think they're going to sit there and go, oh, this is terrific. We got a bunch of people breathe through their mouths and wear bib overhauls, right? And they're going to tell us what to do. They're going to tell the credential class what to do. Look at Trump's, look at the demographics. These people, they're high school graduates. Someone didn't graduate from high school. They're not the credential class. You know, your betters, your betters are just not going to sit there and go, oh, this is terrific. Let's, let's just allow the backbone of America, the grit and determination, the folks that make it happen, let them have a say so in the direction of this government and the size of this government and what leviathans supposed to do and not supposed to do. You think they're just going to sit there and say that they are not? Because now they identify that you are the problem. If you're a veteran, you get too many benefits, right? If you're a worker, you've got, you've get, you're getting too much pay. So we're going to take a commercial break. Mike Davis is with me. We got Mike Davis going to talk about where they're all over Mike Davis, we're going to talk about where we stay in the nominations process. Cash had a good day. Hexus starting to get a little traction, but they're coming after him hard. Scott Besson's up on Capitol Hill tomorrow. Raheem Kassam's in the house. Jack Vasobik's in the house. Jim Rickards is going to join us. All of it. Short commercial break. Be back in a moment. Jesus, put the light in you little children in a straight line. Don't fall behind. Long.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mika Brzezinski]

Herman and Sirius are people like Cash Patel and the inner circle with Donald Trump to literally do show trials of former Trump administration officials who irritated Trump by telling the trut January 6th of investigating, you know, fake conspiracy theories that Cash Patel apparently believes in, q and on, etc. How serious are they about doing that sort of thing in your reporting?

[Hugo Lowell]

Yeah, look, I think they are very serious. The idea is Democrats came after us, that we're going to come after them. And even if these prosecutions or investigations don't end up concluding the way they want for them, it's that is not the purpose anymore. It's so that all sorts of people connected to the January six world, you know, to Jack Smith's cases, and the idea is that they have to lawyer up, spend a lot of money on legal fees and get dragged through grand juries and kind of litigation battles in courts. That is the idea. And you can kind of see how this is metastasized over time because Cash Patel, yes, is loyal to Trump and is ideologically aligned to Trump, but he is also ideologically aligned with people like Steve Bannon, people like Mike Davis. You know, you played a lot of these clips of War Room at the top of the show, and I thought that was actually a really good reflection of where Trump World is when it stands for Cash. Cash's allies, Bannon, Mike Davis, big time. Now Cash has its attractors inside Trump World as well. People close to Susie Wilde, people close to the incoming vice president, J.D. vance. And they were like, well, you know, Cash is kind of out there even for us. But their reaction to Cash getting picked was, well, you know, what liberals boarded on themselves. And so I don't know that there's going to be a concerted effort to try and stop Cash due whatever he wants to do, if that is what it comes to.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Wow. Hugo Lowell of the Guardian. Hugo is one of the best reported. They hear Susie WS And JD Vance not on the Cash train. Did I hear that? Cash is getting confirmed for those of us have been the struggle for years and years and years and years. Cash Patel is going to get going to get confirmed. We need Cash Patel. Cash Patel has been here from the very beginning with Devin Nunez. Cash Patel knows over the FBI. He knows where the bodies are buried and how much dirt's on top of Each one, Mike Davis, Hugo Low giving you a shout out there. They play a bunch of clips from War Room prior to that. But Semaphore is reporting. Ben Smith and the team over at Semaphore are reporting that Cash is getting actual real traction in the Senate. Mike Davis, you know the Senate better than anybody. You're a professional doing these confirmations. Talk to me about Cash Patel, the Senate, what they're going to look for, and what are the probabilities of this.

[Mike Davis]

Sir, I told President Trump we're going to confirm Cash Patel with Steve Bannon in the war room along with the Article 3 project, and that's what we're going to do. Cash Patel is highly qualified for FBI Director. He's been a public defender, he's been a national security prosecutor. The Obama Justice Department gave Cash Patel one of its awards because he's such a good national security prosecutor. He works for Nunes on House intel in a senior post, National Security Council in the White House. Director of National Intelligence Office in a senior post, Chief of Staff at the Pentagon. He's clearly qualified to serve as President Trump's FBI director. So if he is qualified, a qualified senior presidential nominee should presumptively get confirmed in the Senate, particularly by 53 senators in the president's own party, unless that nominee is disqualified for because of his personal misconduct. And that has to be proved by the opposition with clear and convincing evidence. We're not having the Christine Blasey Ford MeToo presumption of guilt. We got rid of that nonsense with Justice Kavanaugh's confirmation. You're welcome, America, from me. And we're not going to do that with Cash. He has nothing in his background that's going to be disqualifying. He's had the highest security clearances in the past. He's had ts top secret sci Secure Compartmental Information SAP Special Access programs of the dod. He, he is thoroughly vetted, he's thoroughly qualified, and he is going to be President Trump's next FBI director. As I promised, President Trump and the Article 3 project in the War Room posse are making damn sure that happens.

[Mika Brzezinski]

I want to make sure right now. Where do people go for Article 3? Grace has got the Bill Blaster. We need all hands on deck in this. We need all hands on deck on these nominations and these appointments. President Trump's picked his team. Hey, I'm not crazy about a couple, three of them. Not at the top levels. I love, I love all the Cabinet secretaries couple. That kind of surprised me. But, hey, President Trump gets His, like I say, he got shot in the head, won a landslide. Four months later, the guy gets to pick who he's gonna pick, right? You gotta. And you gotta just fix bayonets, get up over the trench and let's get moving. Where did they go for Article 3? Right now I wanna turn to Pete Hegseth. I'm booting up a little thing from Rachel Maddow last night for you, Mike Davis. But where do people go right now to assist them? Because posse, remember, you were the hoplites, you were the soldiers in the field on the mass mobilization for the turnout and for the election. Integrity, which you guys all trained up for, is magnificent. Now we're back for the second bite of the apple, which we gotta get President Trump's team over the top and confirm. So, Mike, where do people go today that Want to participate?

[Mike Davis]

Article3project.org Article number three project.org Take action. And then you see Cash Patel there. You click on that and then that will help you contact via phone both of your home state senators. Send them emails, light them up on social media. Remember what the war room posse was able to do on Ketanji Brown Jackson's confirmation. They thought this would be a huge win and they confirmed her and ran off and hit after the war room posse lit up the Senate. Let's put that effort on steroids for Cash Patel. This is the most important nomination. This is how we're going to destroy the deep state, reform the FBI, destroy the deep state and actually bring justice for this republic. Ending lawfare against Trump, Bannon Navarro, Trump's January 6th supporters who are persecuted parents, Christians. Let's go all in on Cash Patel. Only Cash.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Can we go ahead and play. Can we play the. Can we play the part? I want to play the clip of Rachel Maddow on Jane Mayer last night talking about Pete Hegseth. Can we go ahead and play that?

[Jim Rickards]

The other thing I'd like to say is just that it's been almost a day since this story came out, and my phone has been ringing off the hook. I have been hearing from many more people who worked with Pete Hegseth who have come out of those woodwork to say they too have stor the same lines of stories of just drinking himself into sort of oblivion. All of which I think is, you know, I mean, it's. I've got nothing against people having a good time in life, but it's. It's when you combine it with running the Defense Department that it really does get to be an alarming picture.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Okay, Mike Davis, you've done this long enough to know that's Jay. Jay Merritt did a oppo dump. And we had Matt Boyle on yesterday with you. And Matt Boyle said, hey, a lot of this was kind of unconfirmed. They took it from a guy who I guess Peter had replaced Peter, you know, and these organizations, you always have these kind of tensions. Some email, a lot of questions about it, but it's a long report. Mika did a dramatic reading yesterday of the email that his Pete's mom sent. But then 24 hours later, she said, hey, I didn't mean to send it to you. I was just blown off steam. But Jane Mayer went on Rachel Maddow. And remember, Rachel Maddow is the railhead of all of it. That's why she's Monday night for one hour. That's where she gets paid $25 million a year. Not making that up, folks. That's why the spinoff msnbc. So, Mike, Jane Mayer just put a shot across the Senate to saying, don't be rubbing up on Pete Hegseth, because I got a lot more coming. What do you make of that threat? And what do you make? How's the Senate gonna respond to that, sir? Because semaphores repeating cash is getting traction. Besant's getting traction. We know we're getting some traction of these. They're trying to call Pete from the herd. Right? Alinsky 101. Walk us through it.

[Mike Davis]

So, again, the president's qualified nominee should presumptively get confirmed by the Senate, particularly by the President's own party. There's no question that Pete Heckseth is qualified to be the Pentagon secretary. Just look at his background. He's right out of central casting for this job. Right? So the issue is, is he disqualified because of his personal misconduct? And that means that people who say he's disqualified have to come forward with clear and convincing evidence that he's not capable to do the job. And remember, with this confirmation process, we're not canonizing saints. We are confirming people to the President's Cabinet. And the president presumptively should get the team he wants. We. The president doesn't tell senators who can be on the Senate staff. The Senate shouldn't tell the President who should be in his Cabinet, unless that Cabinet pick is either unqualified or disqualified. And so it is a very high burden for someone to come forward and say that a Cabinet pick is disqualified because of personal misconduct. Again, we're not doing the justice, Kavanaugh. Me, too. Presumption of guilt where every nut job from high school 35 years ago comes out of the woodwork like Christine Blasey Ford and doesn't know how she got there and how she got home. And she knows that she only had one beer and it was Brett Kavanaugh, the guy who testified he was a virgin well into his 20s was apparently a serial gang rapist with this nut job Christine Blasey Ford.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Last thing. Because their fallback position is he's not, he's unqualified. In your professional opinion, Mike Davis is Pete Hegseth qualified professionally to be the Secretary of Defense, Sir? Oh wait.

[Mike Davis]

So let's get this straight. We have a mentally ill man as the Surgeon General of the United States. He's somehow qualified. He doesn't know what the hell if he's a man or a woman, he should be in a nut war. But Pete Hegseth who fought in wars for the United States, who's been in our military, he's somehow not qualified. Are you kidding me? Like he's clearly qualified to serve as the Secretary of Defense. Maybe the defense contractors don't like heg set because he's not going to go along with their scam of the last 80 years, but he's clearly qualified to serve.

[Mika Brzezinski]

30 seconds where do they go for article three brother to fix bayonets article3project.org.

[Mike Davis]

Article number three project.org we are going to be in this fight for Trump's Cabinet picks and other senior executive branch picks and then his judges. We are not going away for four more years.

[Mika Brzezinski]

So follow us donate yeah, 1,000 Senate confirmed and plus a ton of hundreds of judges. Maybe a couple of three Supreme Court picks. Mike Davis thank you brother. Raheem Kassam in the house. Next.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mika Brzezinski]

Use your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, we're really jammed up. I'm gonna try to get a couple more, a couple of more rants here as we go. I want to talk about, I got Jim Rickards on deck. I got Jack Posobic, we got the Ukraine war. It's a lot going on. Raheem joins me. Raheem. And of course, in all the discussion about the, about the pardon only, and I think it was Tom Nichols over at the Atlantic talked about the strategic mistake the Democrats are making and Biden made with this pardon. And he's the only guy I've seen on the left that goes back and says, hey, the big problem here is they went back to January of 2014 and they're gonna play right into the hands of the right wing populists that are on top of this. Tell me, why is it so important that he went back 11 years and he went back to January 2014? Sir.

[Raheem Kassam]

Yeah. By the way, I want to start with this. I think the Hunter on the record, I think the Hunter Biden pardon was an excellent, excellent move by Joe Biden. It works for us, it works for me because not only does it put the heat right back on all of that, and by the way, I'll happily trade them a pardon for Hunter Biden because now the spotlight goes back to that date and all of the other.

[Mika Brzezinski]

People now, well, spotlight only goes back to that date if you put it back on the date. Fox, Nobody on the right is focused on what the real story is here. The signal, not the noise, the signal is that he's nervous enough, they're all nervous enough that they went back to January 2014. Why? Somebody said it was 10 years, said, well, hang on, this thing right now is 11 years, right? So it can't just be 10 years. So walk me through why is that. And by the I 100%. Look, first off, I was the first one to say when I got out of prison, that guy's not gonna last 48 hours in prison. He's just not he's a little boy. Mentally, prison's meant to break you. It will break him and it'll be the enemy be back on drugs. And the drugs in these prisons are out of control. So I can understand doing that. But the way he did it and went back those years plays right into the story you've been telling people about the color revolution, or he'd be in.

[Raheem Kassam]

The chapel with all the types of the people that go to the prison chapel, FYI. So, you know, some.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Not the best.

[Raheem Kassam]

Some people will get that.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Not the best.

[Raheem Kassam]

Look, we get, if we go back, everything that happens on this stuff right now on the international stage, everything is. Will coalesce around Ukraine again. Right?

[Mika Brzezinski]

Why is that? It is. It's the center of gravity of modern politics. Why is that?

[Raheem Kassam]

Because it was white Iraq. You know, it was. It was the money laundering of the defense. This is why it comes back to the Hexaf thing as well. This is why they don't want him in SecDef. This is why they're so desperate to stop it. Because he's not going to do that. He's not interested in that. He's not interested in propping up the stock price of the defense companies. And you go back. I welcome the Hunter Biden pardon for two reasons. Number one, it gets us right back to Ukraine. It gets us right back to all the dodgy deals. And I don't care, particularly, you and I were the ones who went through chapter and verse, all the Biden crime family with Rudy Giuliani and all of that stuff.

[Mika Brzezinski]

He's got that great workout.

[Raheem Kassam]

But at this point, you have to take my word for it. I don't care about Hunter Biden himself. I care about the apparatus and I care about the wider corruption. The second thing that's really great about the pardon is that it basically enables Trump to go in day one and be like, okay, well, he politicized all J6. All J6. All done immediately, by the way. And plus. Okay, others as well.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Yes.

[Raheem Kassam]

Caught up in that.

[Mika Brzezinski]

The people. The people. No, no.

[Raheem Kassam]

Alternate electors.

[Mika Brzezinski]

You know, alternate electors. The people praying in front of the abortion centers. All of it. All the ones they imprison all day, deal every day. Yes.

[Raheem Kassam]

Hunter Biden for all of those people's freedom. I take that deal every day.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Yes. We must deliver it. Talk to me how that connects. I got Rickards on here, the gap about Ukraine, but walk me through. Right now, Trump is in route. He's going to be in route to go to go to France this weekend. Le Pen is about to bring down the government in Parliament because it is a parliamentary system. Still, Macron is on bended knee to bring Trump over there. Walk me through what's happening. The tectonic plate shifts we're already seeing.

[Raheem Kassam]

In Europe So, once again, whether it's the Labor Party's apparatus that's currently here in Palm Beach. Yes, I saw you.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Whether, Sir Keir has got an advanced team. His landing team is here.

[Raheem Kassam]

Oh, yeah?

[Mika Brzezinski]

And what are they doing? What's the pitch Labor's gonna make to Trump? Because, Nigel, as soon as you get back over there and start running the campaign, Nigel's gonna be the next prime minister.

[Raheem Kassam]

Yeah. What do you think? I'm not running from here. The Labour Party guys, the Macron, you know, you saw it with Trudeau. Everyone's kissing the ring now. Everybody wants the least. Worst situation for them. And look, Macron, to his credit, is a very savvy operator, extremely savvy operator, and he knows exactly how to make Trump feel like the king. I mean, the reopening of the cathedral is an historic moment. I mean, for France. That's everything. That is France right there. And so to have him there is the ultimate diplomatic move. And he knows that he's got this, you know, this budget crisis and Marine bearing down on him like never before. You know, she can bring not just France, the Eurozone, to its knees in the next 24 hours. And so he has to have Trump there as a bulwark. He has to tell, I'm still in charge. I promise you, I'm still in charge. That's what that's all about. Because the French love to riot. They love to burn the cars. They love a good riot, their country.

[Mika Brzezinski]

They kind of started off by being the mother of all revolutions. Right, Right.

[Raheem Kassam]

And there will be riots.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Let me go to this budget cuts, because the Wall Street Journal today has a brilliant story about. She's saying, hey, I want out of the eu. I want no payments to the eu, no payments for any immigrants on healthcare. Want to stop all the money you're sending to Sub Saharan Africa and North Africa. I want to stop it all. So we don't have austerity programs put on the workers. People are supporting that nonstop. Folks, you're going to see the exact same thing happen here in the United States. Walk me through how the overall finances are finally coming home to Roos. I understand you're not a finance guy, but you know, the politics of it.

[Raheem Kassam]

It's totally coming home to roost. I mean, all of the largesse of the last, you know, two decades, and it's largesse because it's. It's Eurozone payments, like, it's. It's membership payments to Brussels. Right? This is money that.

[Mika Brzezinski]

That they redirect to the other countries. To get everybody.

[Raheem Kassam]

And it goes to Turkey, to Italy, goes to Ukraine and all of this stuff, right? Yeah, but I mean, even the Italians, it's. So you got the net contributors and the net beneficiaries in the eu, Right? And the French and the German people are finally starting to go, hold on. What the heck is going on here?

[Mika Brzezinski]

Right?

[Raheem Kassam]

Like, I can't make mortgage payments. We're sending this money to Romania. What are you talking about? And even the Germans are at it now. Even the Brits. You look at 3 million signatories on this petition after a government goal.

[Mika Brzezinski]

There's a petition now to have another election. It has to be debated. You don't have to have the election, but you have to debate it in Parliament.

[Raheem Kassam]

You have to debate it in Parliament. It's legally required now that they talk about having that election in July, ladies and gentlemen. And the people already want another election.

[Mika Brzezinski]

You're very close to the confirmation process. Tell me, where do you think we stand? Particularly they're trying to. Alinsky, Pete Hegseth. Yeah, right.

[Raheem Kassam]

Yeah.

[Mika Brzezinski]

And we got to double down on Pete. And I keep saying, hey, let's get it all out. Whatever information. Don't let Jane Mayer on Rachel Maddow be given threats. You're going to put a shot across our bow. Okay, baby, give it to us. I think you just got to get it all out there. And then we just got to push Pete over the top.

[Raheem Kassam]

I think you were right when, when you talked about the blood in the water that came after the gate stuff. And they got. They got a big W with that. They get a huge W and now.

[Mika Brzezinski]

McConnell got a huge W. McConnell and.

[Raheem Kassam]

Maddow, one and the same in this process.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Why is that? Why is that? Why people. Why is that?

[Raheem Kassam]

Because they don't want maga. They don't want America to be great again. They oppose everything. Like, it's threaded into them. Right. It's woven into their spirits that they actually oppose that stuff.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Well, they're the controls of the system. They're controls of the system. So the last thing they want is anti system players. Correct.

[Raheem Kassam]

They're corporate ambassadors is what they are. And, you know, I think the Gates thing was bad. Like, really bad. Like, I would have told him, stick at it. Like, go through that Senate confirmation. Make. Make them come to you. Make them throw the questions at you. You know, force the issue. I'm also a little negative about this. I'm pessimistic about Pete. I think people really, really need to get their shoulder to the wheel on this. You got to be lighting yourself, because.

[Mika Brzezinski]

This is one of the reasons we're trying to fire people up is that President Trump shouldn't take any losses. If he makes a decision, like on Gates, that, hey, maybe I'm burning up too much daylight here and I want to do it. That's President Trump's. He can do that.

[Raheem Kassam]

It's his prerogative.

[Mika Brzezinski]

His prerogative, Right. But otherwise it is push and let's get it over the top.

[Raheem Kassam]

Yeah, I think so. And I think people need, like, if he wants him, he should have him. We should definitely have somebody in there that is not qualified. You know, I'm using qualified because the not qualified is exactly to what Mike Davis was saying. He's not qualified as far as the defense companies are considered. You know, he's not qualified as far as the lobbyist. Cash that flows through the Senate is considered, but the man is qualified, like, actually. And if he wants him, he should be able to have him. I think people need to light up the senators right now and say, if you dare, if you dare, we're just not going to have it.

[Mika Brzezinski]

You're saying hex. You're saying hex is like we said, it's all or nothing here. I keep saying they got to flood the zone. What about getting everybody up there in the first or second week of January, all the nomination processes? Absolutely, because they're saying now, well, maybe want the national security guys and maybe cash comes later. Give me your assessment of Cash.

[Raheem Kassam]

Do it all. Flood it. Cash is just brilliant. I mean, he is just a brilliant person. He's a brilliant mind. He's a brilliant man. And the most important thing about Cash, I don't think people realize, yeah, he's great in front of the camera and all that stuff, but he's a hard worker. Like, he puts his shoulder on the way. He actually gets down and dirty into the documents. He understands these things instinctively. It's like, it's almost savant, like, right.

[Mika Brzezinski]

And you have to have a character talk about that. By the way, we took the book Government Gangsters and made a film. You can go to War Room, download it, share it. You got it. Because we took the book and actually made it, I think, even more accessible. Cash is the only person in the film. Cash looks right in the camera, walks you through everything. People run around today saying, oh, he's got this hit list in the book. We walk through the entire thing. It's not a hit list. He talks. He actually walks you through the deep state. But talk to me when you Say he's savant level on understanding.

[Raheem Kassam]

Totally disagree. It's a hit list and we're coming for you. But by the way, the hit list is too short. So we're adding to the hit list and everybody who calls it hit list is being added to the hit list. So you know, he's anybody that anybody.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Comes back and say they get a hit list, right? That's all. Love it.

[Raheem Kassam]

Congratulations, you've earned your spot in infamy. But again, let's go back. Let's connect those dots to the color revolution stuff, right? The FBI under Cash Patel needs to be investigating exactly how America got involved in Ukraine, what, you know, what kickbacks there were, who they went to and all this stuff. And again, I don't care about the Hunter Biden. I care about, you know, I care about, care about Victoria Nuland. I care about all that class of people. I care about all of where the money went for the lobbying for that war. Listen, this isn't just about the cash in your pockets. This is about the trail of dead around the world. And we owe it to them, the people who had their lives.

[Mika Brzezinski]

What do you mean by that?

[Raheem Kassam]

Sacrificed for them, Right?

[Mika Brzezinski]

You mean the 1 million dead? You mean the 1 million dead in Ukraine?

[Raheem Kassam]

Yes, yes. That's human life at the end of the day. And we are the pro life people. We owe it to the people who have had their lives sacrificed for them by the defense industry. And that needs to be investigated. And Cash Patel and a whole host of us. And by the way, there aren't a lot of people like cash, not just in American politics, but in the world.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Amen.

[Raheem Kassam]

You got your Darren Beatties, you know, you got your Cash Patels, you got your Natalie Winters. These are people who, they look at a document and they instinctively understand where to go and how the dots get connected. And so if you can never, ever allow them to stop that confirmation.

[Mika Brzezinski]

And cash comes at this from eight or 10 years, I mean, decades and decades. But he was there with Nunez at the very beginning of this. He knows, like I said, he knows the interconnectivity. He knows where the bodies are buried. Right? He knows. He's got a very sophisticated way he goes about this. This is why their firestorm to stop him.

[Raheem Kassam]

I need fewer. You know, the new ambassadors of the Court of St. James. I need fewer. Never trump appointments. I need more Cash Patels. That's what I need. I don't need one Cash Patel, by the way, every single one of these people should be a Cash Patel of their department.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Where they go national. You're down here reporting this week. Give us your, give us your your where to go for National Pulse, Social media, all of it.

[Raheem Kassam]

Yeah. The national pulse.com forward slash war room. That's the website. Go and sign up. Support the work. That's how we get this information. It's how we get these stories up. You'll see on the left hand side for those watching on television, on the left hand side of screen is the analysis section. And I do a members email every night where I read them into like hey here's what I'm hearing. What's going on. The national pulse.com forward slash war room.

[Mika Brzezinski]

It's a must read. We give all kinds of special content over to the Raheem the team. Thank you very much for reporting down from West Palm Beach. Birchgold.com make sure you go to birchgold.com the end of the dollar empire. President Trump threw down hard the other day told the BRICS hey guess what, it's 25% tariff for Mexico if they don't get their 25% tariff for Canada. If they don't get their act together, 25% tariff for China they don't get direct but 100% tariff for you. If you try to break the US dollar. Make sure you go check it out at Birchgold today and look at alternatives for yourself. Short break Jim Rickards next. We rejoice when there's no more.

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[Raheem Kassam]

You would say the bond vigilantes are back.

[Mika Brzezinski]

I think they're back. I think, I think you have a series of people I mean, look, you interview, you interview some of them on, on TV and they have a view that, you know, the back end of the curve should go higher. Okay, welcome back. You're going to hear all this talk and we're going to get ahead of it as we have been about the capital markets. Now, the threat now from the progressive left is, oh, well, we can't do it with the resistance. We can't do it with the governors fighting Trump. We don't have enough stroke in the House, although we're stealing seats. Mark Elias has stolen three seats, I think, out in California, folks. So now they're going to use the capital markets against Trump and Besant, who are really here, and Elon and Vivek and all that to really, Russ, vote an economic team to actually make rational cuts so we can finance this mess. Jim Rickards joins us. Big piece. I think it's MSNBC opinion piece, Jim, but I want to start with the tariffs. President Trump Sundays last week, 25% tariffs, not on avocados coming from Mexico. All Mexico, all Canada, all China, I don't know, $2 trillion in trade. He rattles Mexico. She gets on the phone right away, she's rattled. Trudeau comes down and kisses the ring, or as Mourning Joe says, kisses south of the ring. Your thoughts there on the terror, by the way, he tells the BRICS nations, you and I have talked about this all the time. If you're going to mess around here, if you're going to try to get an alternative currency, if you're going to go with the Chinese currency or in the petrodollar, you're going to pay a premium of 100% tariff to get your products into the North American United States market. Your thoughts, Jim Rickards?

[Cash Patel]

Sure. I saw that. It was actually a post on X from Donald Trump about the bricks and the towers exactly as you described. My first thought was, hey, you know, Brexit, not that well understood. Tariffs, also not that well understood. That's kind of an interesting mashup of the two. But what Trump actually said, I mean, I have the post in front of me, he says we require a commitment from these countries. They will neither create a new BRICS currency nor back any other currency to replace the mighty US dollar or they will face 100% tariffs. Well, that's a shot across the ballot. In fact. In fact, the BRICs are actually not working on a new currency right now. Ten years from now maybe, you know, took took the euro 10 years to launch from 1992 to 2000. But a new currency is not on the table. They are working on a new payment system for the existing currencies, which is different. So here Trump's kind of warning them off, but there's not really a new currency that's. That's imminent. My other thought, I actually favor tariffs. This goes back to. I share that view with Alexander Hamilton and William McKinley. Tariffs have been a big part of the US growth story since 1790, except in recent decades. So I favorite tariffs. 100% is extreme by any measure. That's really punitive. And the other thing is the BRICs are not just. We used to talk about the third world or developing economies. That's fine. The BRICs are about half the earth's population, 30% of GDP. If you use other measures, it's 50% of GDP. So they have a lot of ability to kind of go their own way. So I view this as, you know, it's a shot across the bow. It's not anything that's going to happen anytime soon. But the point I make, and this is not understood in Washington or, as far as I can tell, in the Trump transition team, the BRICs already have a common currency. No one understands it. It's called gold. In other words, let's say you're Russia and I'm China. I sell you manufactured goods, you pay me in rubles. I sell you, you know, you sell me oil, and I pay you in Chinese yuan. That works. You don't need another currency. The problem is you build up balances. Eventually, one side has a big trade surplus relative to the other. And how do you settle those balances? Well, with a common currency, it doesn't matter. I can go shopping in Brazil or Turkey or Iran or anyplace else. But in the local currency, you are limited. How do you settle up? The answer is gold. And you don't have to do it on a gross basis. You know, the economists say there's not enough gold. That's nonsense. They don't know what they're talking about. There's always enough gold. It's just a question of price. But even apart from that, you don't settle on a gross basis. You settle on a net basis. So you would need far less gold. You don't have to do it in real time. The central banks can pay the local buyers and sellers and local currencies. The countries have to settle up. They could do it quarterly or once a year, etc. So their system works fine without a new currency. They do have a currency already, which no one really understands, which is gold. And if I were the United States Treasury, I would be buying gold. I mean, make their job more difficult. They've been. Russia and China have quadrupled their gold reserves in the last 15 years. Why are we making it easy for them? Just the US has the most gold, so we benefit the most if the price of gold goes up. If I were the Treasury, I would just front run them and buy gold.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Isn't the BRICs, as we've said here for the last couple of years, isn't the BRICS biggest. One of their biggest complaints is the drop in purchasing power of the dollar, and that's because of the inflation, the overspending. Isn't Trump's program with Doge and appropriations and trying to get arms around this budget. Right. To have cuts and also have at least a smart re establishment of the smart tax cuts to have a growth story here. Once that plan is implemented, once he starts to articulate with the details of the plan, they should be the first on board, right? I mean, they're not trying to have another currency, maybe China and some guys behind the scenes. But the principal nations involved in this, at least now, are not looking just to get a currency to combat the United States and take us off the US Dollar. It's the principal fact is that the purchasing power of the dollar keeps deterring rapidly, so they're getting a devaluation all the time. Jim Rickards, your thoughts?

[Cash Patel]

Well, you write about, obviously you write about Trump's program. I favor that program. It should result in a stronger dollar. But inflation is actually not their biggest concern. It is a concern, but there are lots of hedges for inflation, starting with gold. But there are many others, natural resources, land, etc. Their biggest complaint, and I sat in the Pentagon and White House and explained this to people, their biggest complaint is sanctions. And there's a. People take sanctions and tariffs and mash them together. They're completely different. Tariffs are a legitimate economic policy tool. You can overdo it. You can. There's a lot of benefits from tariffs, but they are a legitimate economic tool. Sanctions are financial warfare. That's an act of war. That's no different than the Royal Navy blockading France during the Napoleonic wars, but Americans tend to blur the two. So I would be all in favor of sanctions for the reason I mentioned. Sorry. In favor of tariffs for the reason I mentioned. But sanctions are an act of war. So Russia, China, all the brics, Brazil, the rest of them, they wouldn't even be thinking about moving away from the dollar. The dollar worked just fine the only reason they're thinking about it is because of the sanctions we put on Russia back to Ukraine. And by the way, Steve, what you said earlier with your prior guest, Ukraine is sort of the center of gravity for almost every big geo economic issue in the world. But because of the sanctions we put on Russia as a result of Ukraine, China, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and others looked at that and said, hey, if you can do it to Russia, you can do it to us. And so we need an alternative. So all you really have to do is back off from the sanctions war, settle the issue in Ukraine, which is should never have happened, but that can be settled and then they'll ease off on the alternative currency. Their concern is not inflation, it's sanctions.

[Mika Brzezinski]

Jim, hang on one second. The swift system and sanctions. We call it economic warfare. They're smart enough to understand that. We're take a short break. POSO is going to be in the house with Jim Ricketts. Jim's going to stick around. Short Commercial break 92nd. Back in the warm in just a moment.

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