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Irene Le Pen
Irene Le Pen is looking to link up with a far left party to take over the country. We are in the age of global gangsterism, the age folks like Vladimir Putin have planned for decades.
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Joe Scarborough
Look at this map.
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Irene Le Pen
It reflects an alarming worldwide trend on the rise in autocracy. These are the countries who had elections this year based on their democracy grade by the Economist. Those colored in blue are authoritarian. Those colored in yellow are hybrid regimes. And those colored in red, including the United States, are deemed flawed democracies. Look, first of all, don't put me in a corner where I never went. I am not saying the Democratic Party is finished and needs to be rebuilt from scratch. You've been talking about some historical parallels. I would draw an analogy. And Joe, you remember to 1968 when Richard Nixon barely defeated the incumbent vice president who had taken over for the incumbent president who had withdrawn from the race. That was a really close election, but it signaled a change, a big change, which was the end really of New Deal liberalism. It didn't happen all at once. It took maybe 12 years until Ronald Reagan swept it away in 1980. But that's, that's where I'm looking more a trend, which is the trend toward populism, right wing populism. It's a global phenomenon.
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Joe Scarborough
It's.
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Irene Le Pen
Yes, Mika, you're right. It's been coming in this country for eight years. But the fact that Donald Trump won again, despite being pretty unpopular, despite having tried to overthrow an election, despite being a convicted felon, tells me that that trend, that sentiment in the public to get rid of old institutions, to overthrow the status quo, it's a really strong one. Strong enough to reelect this, I would say degenerate felon. And Democrats would be foolish not to look at that and say we may be defending a status quo that the country has had enough of.
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Joe Scarborough
How do you, I mean, how do you think about the cost benefit analysis here?
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Irene Le Pen
Well, of course it worries me. It has to. It has to worry any sensible thinking person to argue for breaching norms that have guided our country for 250 years. On the other hand, I don't think that democratic self restraint is what is going to stop Trump from acting. If in the end, Trump and the Republican majority think that the filibuster is a barrier to whatever it is that they want, for example, they're going to get rid of it anyway, whether or not the Democrats had done so in the, in the prior Congress. And so it strikes me as essential to begin trying to take steps that can't be reversed. Or irreversible steps in defense of say voting rights. For example, expanding the franchise, guaranteeing federally against state interference. You know, you would still have to contend obviously with the Supreme Court. But for two years the Democrats had a majority in both houses. And instead of doing transgressive normative things like changing the electoral rules to prevent Trump's cheating, they did normal Democratic things. They passed the inflation Reduction act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure act and all good things I'm sure from there perspective. But they thought that that would be how to reclaim America and turned out they were wrong.
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Joe Scarborough
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Alex DeGrasse
And where do people like that go.
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Joe Scarborough
To share the big line MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
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Joe Scarborough
It's Wednesday the 4th of December in the year of Lord 2024. You saw right there from the cold open, the rhetoric on the, the, I don't want to say totally defeated, but at least the beaten progressive left is getting more and more, not just nervous, kind of outrageous. They're saying they're talking about the populist nationalist movement and painting us as an autocratic movement. You know, we just beat them fair and square using not just democratic principles but democratic processes and procedures. That's not good enough for them. And I've preached this over and over again that defeating them at the ballot box on the existing rules that they have out there, they will never accept that they had the nullification project when President Trump won in 2016. They immediately started that morning. We won at like 2:30 in the morning on the 9th of November. The election was on the 8th the nullification project started. Remember we had like 5 or 10,000 people in the pink hats, many of them in the pink hats, many of them women. Kind of the most radical part of the Hillary Clinton brigade outside on fifth Avenue that stayed there the entire time. Police put up barricades, police brought in the riot horses for the entire time. They didn't go right. That was the beginning of what I called the nullification project. Later we found out, obviously, the FBI had already been in the CIA. FBI had already been listening to people wiretapping certain people going and getting FISA warrants, all of it from earlier in the year. Because the apparatus, the dark star, the empire, saw these rebels and people that disagreed with them as being unacceptable to kind of take power. And so that began the Comey situation and with the phony, you know, report they gave President Trump that then was leaked to the press about everything. And all this phony stuff that happened in Moscow, just on and on and on, eventually led to the Mueller investigation. Continued straightforward. Now we know from Biden's pardon, the thing they're most concerned about is the early days of that pardon goes all the way back to January of 2014. The color revolution. Make them move on Ukraine to get another client state to keep the money flowing to the arms merchants. Everything that's going on in Ukraine now, they're equating the populist revolt worldwide. And even as we speak, we'll have them a little on later in the show. You have, I think the government of France will be falling today. The parliamentary part of it, Le Pen is holding out. And it's a very important lesson for us. This was yesterday's Wall Street Journal is briefly able to show you, show you right there. That's the COVID It's about Le Pen. More actions happening today. And this fight is very important for you to understand because Macron and the centrist are worried about the budget deficits. And the budget deficit in France, as Jason Turner said yesterday, is over 6%. I think it's 6.57%. They've got to get it down to. They're trying to get it down to 3% in trying to get it down to a sustainable budget deficit that the country can finance going forward. The cuts have to be made. Dramatic cuts have to be made. And right now in France, the neoliberal neocons have offered up that it's going to come out of the hide of working class people. And Le Pen Front national or national assembly, whatever name they're using now, has said, no, that's not going to happen. It's going to. We're going to take it out of payments to the eu, we're going to take it out of payments to institutions in the EU or take it out of, you know, all this, all this activity we do in Africa and North Africa and the Middle East. Right now, France is up to its eyeballs in the situation in Lebanon and Syria, where they have a traditional colonial interest. She wants it all out of there. So dramatic is this fight that the government may fall in South Korea. Martial law tries to get institute. And remember, the president of South Korea came in as a hardline anti CCP and Korea, South Korea particularly has been a terrific ally of the United States, a stable ally of the United States, particularly in this fight against the Chinese Communist Party. But the Korean business, culture and society is deeply infiltrated by the ccp. And the president hasn't been the most, I would say, steady Eddie. Every now and again he does things that you sit there and go, it's a little strange, a little outrageous. Tried to declare martial law the other day. That's voted down. Total chaos, total turmoil. President Trump, as they say, and they go, oh, it's an autocratic movement. Now, the last guy, Rosencrantz lawyer and I'm going to try to get other cuts later. He was on last night. And the rhetoric they're using, what they're putting out is, hey, we should have taken all this time in the interregnum. Because this is what's so interesting. He understands and he implies that they know that Trump won the 2020 election because he talks about the specter of Trump as something that would return. And he chastises the. He chastises and this is a Bush guy. I think he's from Bush's, Bush 43. He chastises the political class, the political establishment in Washington for not Trump proofing the institutions more for the return of the populist nationalists. And he says at the beginning of the interview, hey, I thought that Trump was just an aberration, that it was just a passing thing in 16 and now I think it's a phenomenon. That's a quote from his. We'll try to cut that and get that a little later. Now it's a phenomenon and it's a movement, and it's a movement that is not going away. And that we have to make the institutions and the power of the government hermetically sealed from this movement. This is why my mantra has been from the beginning here, after he won the election November 5, is that people have to focus on seizing control of the institutions. We are fighting people that defend the system that's not defensible. We are fighting people that are part of the cartel and the apparatus, the dark star that control this government. And in controlling the government, essentially with the oligarchs on Wall street and in Silicon Valley, control the country, that fight is continuing. This is why you see in these nominees, a Pete Hegseth is a is someone who will bring dramatic change to the warmongers at the Pentagon. Pete Hegges put out a tweet this morning with his compatriots fighting in an earlier war. Pete's in combat gear and he says, hey, I'm for the war fighters, not for the war mongers to have a. No secretary of defense has ever used the word warmonger. And they're all, you know, in meltdown in Washington this morning, Pete's mom came on Fox and Friends, sat on the curvy couch to make a defense of her son. But they're in shock and they intend to defeat Pete Hegseth and to call him from the herd. I have both behind the scenes and in last night, the speech I gave at Club 47. I want to thank the folks there. I'll talk about a little bit more about that later. We got, we have to go all in on Pete. Like I said, President Trump gets to have his picks. Now, what is quite discomforting, and this is where you got to get it back to what in the hell is going on? You got to get organized in Mar? A Lago president's got too much burden on him. And last night was leaked. You know, Ron DeSantis is. Now they're looking at Ron DeSantis. Maybe it was strong enough a leak that certain news organizations ran with it, that have contacts that they can trust. I'm not saying Ron DeSantis is going to get it, but I'm saying if you're putting out the name of Joni Ernst and what brother Colby, the anti CCP guy and, you know, Hagerty and the Governor DeSantis, all of a sudden people are going to say, hey, maybe there's not a commitment to Pete Hegses. Well, in our war room universe, there is a commitment to Pete Hegseth because he's the designated secretary of defense and he stands for immediate and dramatic change. Now, if that's not the case, somebody ought to get, you know, notification of the front lines, the folks in the trenches. That and we're going down a slippery slope. The DEA sheriff, who was clearly not with the MAGA program that was so obvious that he stepped down because he wasn't going to get much support. He stepped down, said, hey, thank you for the offer, but I didn't do it. Gates, Hegseth, these are all taking a political toll. They just are. It's like you're spending your political capital and we have to concentrate. We have tremendous political capital from the victory anyway. Short commercial break we'll be back in the war in just a moment. We're going to talk about a little later the seats being stolen out in California next. Big victory on the 5th of November. Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country. One of the biggest is the national debt and the deficits that drive it. Hey, you think the country's broke? The country is broke. We're just printing money to keep this house of cards going. The strategy remains the same for you. You got to diversify, diversify your savings. That's why buy gold from Birchgold. So many things are out of your control, out of the president's control. It's important to have a safe haven for your savings. 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President Trump 2016, a place we would use a lot, I think. United Healthcare CEO gunned down dead, shot in the chest. And it looks like a targeted, they're saying right now, targeted hit, not a random event. So more to come on that as we know, more. Alex De Grass joins me. I got, Alex, I got a lot to go through about the resistance that's already building in the Democratic Party. There's resistance in the Republican Party. There's a huge article. I talked a little bit about this last night in my speech, how the Senate can hold sway in the Age of Trump. Pardon my notes to myself there. That's the first time I think our paper of record has used the phrase Age of Trump. The Age of Trump, like the age of Jackson. But this talks about the Senate being the. Since the Democrats are not going to be able to do it. The Senate with John thune and Mitch McConnell being a break on the populist nationalist movement by going back to traditional kind of Republican policies and the types of people they want in their respectable Republicans, not Trump's kind of avengers. But there's also a situation in the House and you had been on, I think a couple weeks ago, right after the election when they were still being counted and people couldn't figure out why some of these things were still being counted in these House races and you said, hey, look, worst case, some of these things are in play. I think we be in pretty good shape. But worst case, we could be at 220 to 215. I think that we hit your worst case. We hit your worst case. Am I correct in that?
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Alex DeGrasse
The kind of upsetting. But I think it's important for people to understand that it's which we've spoken about, Steve, for years on the show. Right? State laws, state courts, these are state issues. Of course we look at federal angles when we try to protect this stuff. California is the worst of the worst, probably, I guess worse than New York. And I mean legally, per their laws. Right. You can continue to find ballots with no postmarks for over even, I think seven days or up to seven days after the election. The fact that we have racists called one month after the fact, all of them called in the opposite direction of us and we had people curing it. I mean, it's disgusting. And worst case, we really need to use this moment to educate the American people and voters about what the deal is in.
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Joe Scarborough
But hang on, hang on, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on a second. I gotta understand this because this goes back to Mark Elias and Mark Elias says, hey, war room's obsessed with me. We're living rent free. No, we're charging you, but you're a demonic. Is this just Mark alliance? I don't get. And I understand you got states. How can we just be counting ballots weeks after an election ends? And you tell me in California, how do I think it was three seats? How do you all of a sudden ballots keep coming and you know, two thirds of the ballots are Democrat and one third are Republican. And so eventually you overturn. I mean this is 2020 all over again. So how does this work? And I take it, give me this specifics. Are these postmarked? Are they signed? Because it seems to the average person that ballots just continue to get generated and coming out of everywhere. And these local Democrat officials, count them up. And as soon as you're beating a Republican, hey, elections called, we're all done. No more ballots. Is that too simplistic to say? Because these look like they were stolen.
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Alex DeGrasse
I've spoken to Republicans that are not Trump guys, right? These are real establishment old time hands that work across the party apparatus. And when you talk about the California elections, they say quietly even Steve. Well, it's really clear they steal it and their side. And it's interesting that that is even understood at the wide range of operatives because there's literally no fail safe, Steve. And it's all. That's the law. I mean, that's what they have as a law, right? There are no postmarks. They can appear. There's really nothing to stop Democrats from printing ballots after the fact or sort of filling them out and getting them in. It's something that people need to talk about. And we need a grassroots bipartisan, because it has to be bipartisan. And I believe it would be in California to really take a look at this and wonder why is this the only place in the civilized world?
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Joe Scarborough
Why would it be? But Alex, Alex, you're a lovely guy. Why would he be bipartisan? The Democrats got a system to win. They kind of dig it. Hey, put all your money, get all your effort, get a mass mobilization, game day, war room posse, you win and then two weeks later through. But dude, it's what? We're over a month. We're a month from the vote and these are congressional districts. Everything else is gone. People, even in New York, all the contested things, they're still counting ballots as they come in. And guess what? Now is it three seats we lost out there, two seats or three seats? I think it's three seats, isn't it? That was just stolen from us.
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Alex DeGrasse
Yeah, well, I know that people are looking illegal.
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Joe Scarborough
Was Watley in the rnc? I didn't see a fight out there. Did we miss it here at the Worm? Because people were blowing me up and I said the RNC is on this. I guess Whatley's on this. And I understand that it's a Democrat state, but hey, being a Democrat state, can't you go into federal court? Can't you stop this madness? Or are we just going to sit there and go. Because I got news for people. Let me be brutally frank. You've had Degrasse and a great team and Stefanik, you had these guys, you had Ember, you had a great team this time. I think A solid team, very well prepared. You had the data, you had the war on posse, and you had Donald Trump at the top of the fricking ticket. Right. With low propensity, voters don't normally come out. And we barely hung on. We hit your worst case.
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Alex DeGrasse
Yeah.
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Joe Scarborough
In 2022, if I'm Hakeem Jeffries right now. You know, I'm not saying I'm measuring the drapes, but I'm going to raise. I'm going to raise $2 billion. And here's my pitch. I will reverse everything Trump does in his last term. Right. I'll reverse everything in the first two years. His great hundred days, his great six months, his great this, his great that, and then I'm going to impeach him in the first 30 days after we get in. And he will raise $2 billion on that pitch and he'll point to, hey, I've got a way to do this. And if it's tight, we got, we got ballot generation operations and Trump not at the top of the ticket. We'll smoke these guys. Where's the. Given the fact that in 22. But I had Degrasse and you had all these great people. We beat them by 6 million votes nationwide. I got that. But now they see, hey, we can get back into the ballot generation game and we're going to smoke these guys. Is that too crazy a proposition?
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Alex DeGrasse
No, it's not. I mean, literally, I agree with you in terms of the Senate. And the big difference here, not to go on a quick tangent, is like the House is more. They're like half of them have been elected in the age of Trump, Steve. And I can't stress the difference in sort of mentality when you're a candidate has come up through the grassroots while President Trump has been a political force and sort of the difference between people that have been there for a long time. Right. I don't mean I gotta be nice to everyone part of my job. But I'm just saying the House is really more people that have come through that era. And so that's something when you look at the Senate and compare, which is why the House is so important this election. It's all House. I mean, the next election is all House. They will have $2 billion, no doubt about that. They will put everything they can in New York and California. Now they've got to play more defense. We're going to have to really focus on offense and. Absolutely. I mean, we need to really strengthen. I mean, we're just stretched really thin. Brawley. I'M not here to make excuses. None of that on the war room. And I think people are fighting, fighting, curing, taking legal action. I mean California is a cesspool. It's a black hole in terms of any election integrity remedies, courts. I think the federal level is important, but they rule the postmarks. I mean I think there may be is action to come. But these guys conceded, Steve. So that in terms of a remedy makes it essentially impossible, I believe. Right. When you've got one of the parties has conceded the Republicans. So I think it's upsetting, of course, and I'm not here to say anything. But the next election is so critical for the House, Steve. It's like it is the most important election that we've spoken about because everything is on the line and we say that every time, but this really is it in the House. Cuz they will stop, impeach, investigate, obstruct, they'll drag everyone in and they'll stop everything.
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Joe Scarborough
Well, President Trump, President Trump will have a two year term. I have a one year second term. We'll get it done the first year people that we got. And here's the thing in North Carolina, I mean it's more than just New York and it's more than New York in California. Look at North Carolina. I still can't get a straight answer how Trump won so big and everybody else got smoked and I realized Mark Robinson had problems. But it's not. Mark Robinson is not the reason that we lost across the board. And they're licking their chops down there. As good as the Republicans are doing, are trying to reverse things while they still have the 2/3 majority. They're licking their chops down there at a couple of those House seats. We got to fight. And I think people have to be prepared if you want to keep the Trump movement going. Understand that they look right now at the House in two years as really the smart people look at their bulwark where they can reverse or first off, stop it dead in its tracks. Number two, reverse it and they're going to impeach him for a third time. Write it down now. Get your number two prince a lot and write that down. He came because that's what he's going to pitch. He's going to pitch it just like Nancy Pelosi in 18. I'm the first one kept saying it. I said, hey, she's running around these people. They're knocking on doors in Iowa in the sweltering heat in the summer because she's told her I'm going to impeach Trump and hey, wait for it. She impeached Trump. That was the pitch. The same pitch is going to happen. Alex, we got a bounce. Give us. People need to know where to go and follow. I tell you what, didn't Hank, Hank do the break. I want to spend a few more minutes. Jack Vasobek. I got others. Birchgold.com youm think it's time to talk about your finances. And is precious metals an alternative? Talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Birchgold.com Bannon or Bannon Tex Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898 turmoil in France and in South Korea. Big time. Turmoil financially in the home of what modern monetary theory. Get to that with Ben Harnwell this evening. Short break. Degrasse Posobic on the other. I've been telling you about cyber scammers who try to steal Graceland. The FBI calls this house stealing and it's a real threat. If you own a home or any real estate, pay close attention. When was the last time you checked the title to your home? With an average of 90% of your net worth in your home, criminals are targeting homeowners like never before. They can transfer your home title, take out loans in your name and leave you with a financial nightmare. Act now to protect your home's equity with triple lock protection from home title lock. Go to hometitlelock.com Enter your address and find out if your title is still in your own name. Use promo code Bannon to get a complete title scan and your first 30 days of protection free. That's 30 days of free protection and peace of mind. Do not wait. Take action right now to protect your most valuable asset. Visit hometitlelock.com and use promo code Bannon. That's home title lock.com promo code Bannon. Please do this today.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Joe Scarborough
So Alex, the engine room is focused, is talking about stamina and focus and how we continue to close on victories. Let me ask you with Gates Waltz. Stefanik, help me out here, brother. What's going to happen? You know, we got a one or two seat majority right now. What is going to happen when all these people drop out after January 3rd? Are we even going to be able to pass any legislation? Give me the mechanics.
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Alex DeGrasse
Yeah. So we'll get down to 217, 15 and I would really dare anyone to oppose Donald Trump's agenda, most of which was already passed out of the house. Right. So the border wall, all of the Imports of parents, Bill of Rights, the stuff that Trump energy independence, just sort of the quick and easy to get out in the first hundred days. I would challenge anyone to oppose. I mean, President Trump has so much political capital. Steve, let's just bring it back quickly. The amount of people in D.C. and I know Mag out there across the country understood this, but that said Donald J. Trump will outperform every single, almost every single House candidate, Senate candidate, governor down the line was like five people, two of us talking to each other right now in D.C. so none of the apparatus on our side really understood that, prepared for it. I think now it's a wake up call, although too late. And so as we prepare for the midterms, I do think maga's really in the driver's seat with President Trump in office. Sort of taking a step back and looking at why that's the case. Because it used to not be the case. It used to be House guys would come five points over Trump.
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Joe Scarborough
Yeah, but how can I understand that? I understand that. But their lesson is that, hey, Trump ain't going to run again. And when you say political capital, I got one Attorney General, I got one warrior down unless we go total fixed bayonets. And the home office has got to know somebody there. He's got to stop leaking on alternatives. Right. Or I'm going to have two down. And they're superstars in this movement. And now they're going to focus since Pete didn't even get to flood the zone in early January with a hearing or at least take it to December because Pete's drawing a fire away from cash and away from Tulsi and away from Bobby Kennedy. Right. You're going to have, they're going to focus on cash to turn it out. I've got the New York Times has laid out how McConnell's going to stop it through Thune. And we know that's going to happen. You know that and I know that. And let's be brutally frank behind the scenes, the more sophisticated resistance right now is not the Democrats. They're still kind of recovering from the punch and they're trying to figure it out and scrap around. But the Republicans, the Republican established order, still believe in their heart of hearts that Trump is a passing summer storm and that if they just tap Trump along that it will, this, this movement will dissipate or it will get so frustrated and that it'll just either go away or will fall back into the, you know, Nikki Bird brain, you know, Ron DeSantis, you know, Governor Youngkin there's a standard stock tax cuts and a little bit of deregulation to make the donors happy. And we'll continue on the, you know, we'll continue on the forever wars. We'll continue with the spending and the apparatus and the administrative state and we won't send anybody home that dems the facts, folks. That that is reality. People might want to talk about it, but that's reality. And you're going to see this as you try to push up in the Senate, brother, because you fight for every seat and Stefanik fights for every seat. Let me be blunt. Let me, let me just tell people a reality check. The Senate seat in Wisconsin, they should have been in court. We should have been fighting that and counting every ballot and just not that that is a win from us that not only gets stolen. They didn't fight because Mitch McConnell doesn't want that extra seat. He likes the fact he's got two Democrats in Collins and Murkowski there and he's the deciding vote. And then they can see if they get a mic around to somebody else. They are going, that's how they're going to blunt the Trump forces. Am I incorrect in that they didn't want to fight for these other seats, not just Kerry Lake. They didn't want Sam Brown in Nevada. They didn't want the pickup in Michigan. They didn't really fight for Mike Rogers. He's not a MAGA guy. But they didn't want the seat. They didn't want the seat in Wisconsin. Wisconsin's the most obvious that if you were serious, you would fight tooth and nail. That they like the fact it's only 53. They like the fact that Murkowski and Collins are essentially Democrats. They like the fact that Mitch McConnell is saying and they like the fact that they got to go up and kowtow to Mitch McConnell in the Senate. Where am I incorrect on that, brother?
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Alex DeGrasse
Well, Steve, what I would say, because what you said is so important about like sort of the next man up, they're going after Pete, it's Cash next, it's Tulsi. I mean, there's literally nothing more important than closing ranks, fixing bayonets, getting the trenches and pushing forward with everything we've got on Pete because they went after Gates, they took him down. This is a sophisticated op with friends on our side, like you're saying, involved in it. This is a highly sophisticated from, I believe, the highest powers of Democrats partnered with their allies on our side, of course, or our side, of course. And they are moving this Thing viciously and fast. And this is. And it's him down, if he goes down. And then it's the next one. We have to break them with Pete. That is the most important thing. We have to push this through with everything we've got. A lot of people are focused on getting this done. I mean, I was working all night in the morning doing what I can. You know, just a house guy, you know, doing what we can to try to help from the outside, do everything we can. Because this is the most vicious. You look at what's going on, you take a step back. The posse, smart looking at the signal. This is really something. I'm glad we've got post so he knows all the facts and everything. I mean, this stuff is wild. But if we break them with.
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Joe Scarborough
But degrasse. Degrasse, correct me if I'm wrong, is Pete going over actually to the house today to meet with some people. This is what I heard. He was going over to rally some of the troops over there. Although they don't participate in the confirmation process. Is that actually going to happen or is that just rumor?
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Alex DeGrasse
I think he's. I know that they were trying to meet with some other nominees. I'm not sure on that, but I think that's great. But I think this really is. I mean, those that are allied with President Trump, we are closing ranks how we're doing everything we can. This really is the most important fight for the posse is this nomination. Because you look at that budget at the Pentagon, you understand what's on the line. Those view, see what's on the line. He's committing the fight for the war fighters, not the warmongers. That's the messaging. That's the sort of battle line here. And I think people will sort of expose where they are in that fight over the next couple weeks. But it's very important that everyone dig in nicely. We want to be polite, call your senators, make sure they're out there publicly supporting and going through the process because it's key.
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Joe Scarborough
Alex, where do people get access to you, sir?
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Alex DeGrasse
I'm on X at Degrasse. 81. Getter at Degrasse. Appreciate everyone. Just Pete, Pete, Pete. Bayonet, bayonet, bayonet all the way. Thanks, Steve.
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Joe Scarborough
Thank you, brother. Alex De Grass over at the house. Can I play? Can we get. I got posto. Can we play the defense cut that we had on the defense spending? Let's go and play that to bring in Pozo. Yes. There's bloat in the Pentagon budget. We're spending too much in some cases on the wrong systems. But this is a very powerful case that we need. This needs to be. Needs to be a time of great innovation and actually expansion of what we spend on defense, given what's going on in the world geopolitically and in the world of technology. You heard it, $848 billion. And that's not all of it. If you added it all in, it's a trillion dollars. Let's just top it off and round it up. The other departments, if you added up what they really spent, Jack Posovic, you know this better than anybody. You throw in intel, you throw in some energy, you know, some of the nukes, you throw it all in, you top a trillion dollars, and right there, they're up in your grill. They're going to say, yeah, there's some bloat, there's a little bit waste, fraud and abuse. Don't give me waste, fraud and abuse. This is programmatic. The empire is too big. You can't do. If you're going to have the empire as you have it today, you're going to be about a trillion dollars. Posobic this fight over Pete Hexith is now symbolic, and I just hope people in the home office understand that. You know, it's like in France in 1917 or 18. Like, if you see paths of glory, when you put the bayonet on and you go up to take the anthill, you're going through no man's land. We would like the artillery to be aimed at the Germans, not aimed at our lines. To get guys motivated. We're motivated. And what I'm afraid of here is that there's all kind of mixed signals coming out. We're all in for Pete Hegseth. And Pete Hegseth is symbolic now. It's even bigger than Pete Hegseth. Are you with me on this? Poso?
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I do think it's bigger. And I just want to give a huge shout out not only to Pete Hegseth, his family, his mother coming out today, his wife being there with him on the Hill. President Trump calling Pete Hegseth earlier today and telling him to keep fighting, keep your head down, keep in there. But the shout out has to be to Will Kane. This guy has really stepped up as a brother in arms, a battle buddy, someone who's got your back and someone who's rallying to your defense. When you see another guy taking fire, when that guy's on your team, even if it doesn't directly benefit you personally, you know it's about the cause. And Steve, there's a lot of people around who say they know this is about the movement or this is about the money. And look, I see a lot of people right now and you could see this. They're putting the movement over the money. And I love to see that. I love to see it from Will Cain. I love to see it from all the people that are now rallying behind. Rachel Duffy is coming out, of course, his other co host there for Fox and Friends weekend. And it's just incredible to see that all these people, they could keep their mouths shut and all the 18 coming out rallying behind him say, this stuff is not real. It's never been true. And I love to see it because what you're actually seeing within Fox, by the way, is a bit of an internal fight as well from the people who are on air, from the people who run the cameras, from the people who work in the production versus, shall we say, the people in the higher offices.
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Joe Scarborough
Well, let's talk about that and give the audience because, you know, as, as, you know, a lot of the posse does not watch Fox anymore for good reasons. But let's talk about this FOX situation where these vicious leaks came out. If everything went bad enough, then they had these leaks come out from Fox people that said he drank too much and he had a problem drinker, which is what took John tower down, what, 30 or 40 years ago. But you had Will Kain and others step into play, tell us what will his other hosts, Duffy, these other people have been doing to come out front and say, hey, we don't care about what these leaks were. Those are lies.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, they say it's complete lies. I mean, look, this guy does the morning show. They say, look, if we had smelled anything on his breath, we would have known about this Joey Jones as well. Coming out, people who say, look, I don't, I don't drink. What, what did Rachel say? I think she said, you know, the only thing I ever smelled on his breath was an egg sandwich and a coffee because, you know, that's the kind of thing, you know, can't get away with. But let's, let's cut back, let's cut the crap a little bit here. Look, drinking has never been a problem in terms of career path for people over at Fox. And there's a whole, whole mess of dirty laundry. We had dirty laundry day here at Human Events Daily yesterday. There's a ton of dirty laundry over at Fox that could come out if people want to go and Play that game. But we know this isn't actually about drinking. This, which never happened to begin with an 18 on, you know, off the record, anonymous sources that nobody wants to come out. Whereas Will Cain, he's got people who are on the record. He's putting his own career on the line to do this. Rachel Duffy is putting her own career on the line to do this. Why are they doing that? Because he's their brother in arms. This is band of brothers. This is the type of men who founded this country, by the way, is people going up and putting up things that they actually had to lose when you had something to lose, putting that on the line. But what I'll also say is it's the higher ups who are behind all this. This is why you're getting the leaks to the Wall Street Journal. That's the Murdoch's, that's Paul Ryan, it's the neocons. Those are the people who are now coming out against Pete Hegseth because they don't want any cuts to the military. They don't want any pullback. Ukraine, Syria, all the rest of it. They love the war and they want to keep the war going.
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Joe Scarborough
Yeah, Pete Hegseth. I mean, guys, they love the guy. He's a. He's a man's man. I mean, Pete's got, you know, he's got some. He's got some chinks in the armor. That's okay. Everybody's got chinks in the armor. Hex is exactly the mentality you need over that place right now. And they're saying we couldn't run these small organizations. Pete Hexis will be fine. They'll put a great team around him. Pete Hexus a leader. He's a leader of men. And right now this is pure character assassination. And they're all in, in the biggest way. Okay. Birchgold.com abandoned end of the dollar empire. We'll talk a little bit about that in the second hour. We're talking some capital markets and some economics. Jack Posovic's here. We got the third world war. Jack vow is going to get us up to date. Next in the war room, spread the word of the wrong. You owe back taxes, right? Here's the question. Why is the IRS targeting you and not millionaires who owe a fortune compared to you? Rich people have tax attorneys. You probably don't. Tax Network USA are patriots you want on your side to solve your IRS tax problems quickly and painlessly. Their attorneys, strategists and expert negotiators employ brilliant strategies designed to solve your IRS problem quickly in your favor. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which to avoid. And Tax Network USA learned of a limited time special IRS offer. The IRS is willing to forgive $1 billion in tax penalties. Find out if you qualify before it's too late. Schedule your free confidential consultation now. Look, Tax Network USA has resolved over 1 billion in tax debts and they offer a best in class client satisfaction guarantee. This is the team I recommend to solve your IRS problems so you can get your Life back. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon tnusa.com Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Natalie Winters
You are back in the war room, Natalie Winters and my wonderful esteemed co host, Jeff Clark. Now, I know we're told by the mainstream media that we're crazy for wanting to use what President Trump's mandate overwhelming victory to look into 2020 election fraud. I know all the MSNBC hosts, which we commiserate and how much we love watching them, are melting down at that prospect. So can you sort of walk us through your opinion, your analysis as to how the best way to go about adjudicating that affair, that skullduggery, I just love that word. But that Liz was sort of alluding to in the last block. But it's obviously, you know, broader than just the state of Georgia.
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Jeff Clark
Look, you know, there were people at the Justice Department who took the position that the Justice Department doesn't have a role in investigating state elections. And that's just manifestly untrue. And, you know, that's why the Biden administration was sending monitors in terms of the election. It's why the acting assistant attorney general at the start of the Biden administration sent a letter to those in Arizona who were doing the audit telling them, don't go do the canvas, that we're going to view that as election interference and intimidation of voters.
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Natalie Winters
Pamela Carlin.
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Jeff Clark
Pamela Carlin, who also got a special ethics exception to continue collecting her $900,000 a year Stanford Law salary while she worked for the Justice Department. Meanwhile, I was forced to resign my position, my unpaid position from the Federalist Society when I started in the Trump administration, you know. Double standard much?
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Natalie Winters
Well, that's because you weren't an impeachment witness. You left that off her resume, too, right? You didn't smear Barron Trump.
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Jeff Clark
That's right. Yeah. That's payment for services rendered to the party. Yeah. Look, I think the Justice Department, Natalie needs to look at the 2020 election and deeply investigate it. And I know that from what President Trump has said publicly, he wants that to happen, and that can be unfolded in stages. And, you know, I'd also like to see, particularly since the Republicans control both houses of Congress, for the Judiciary Committee to on both houses to start investigating as well. I think that that's a look back that the people of America really want to see happen. And I don't think they're buying the idea that asking those kinds of questions and demanding that kind of investigation is all part of crazy conspiracy thinking. Here we are, four years later, and we still can't see the information that the state election board wants to get from Fulton County. I mean, that's ipso facto something that smells to the high heavens. In the law. There's this principle that if you destroy evidence, Right. That spoliation and negative inferences can be taken against you for destroying evidence. At this point, four years, if you're stonewalling and you're not turning the evidence over so that it can be looked at independently, that really smells very, very bad.
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Natalie Winters
Well, and I think it's quite interesting, too, when you sort of juxtapose this whole election meltdown narrative. They're always hammering on MSNBC that, oh, the American people didn't know what they were voting for when they supported Trump, right? They didn't want the deportations, they didn't want the retribution. Like, don't culturally appropriate us, msnbc, we know exactly what we want and what we voted for. But I think the sort of other side of the coin, there is this idea that, well, you know, when it comes to looking into stolen elections, that, oh, suddenly they've moved on from the election integrity effort, right? People are no longer. That's not true at all. The only reason that we won was because we were able to actually make it too big to rig by really staking out the war. And Posse played such a critical role in that sort of boots on the ground form of fraud. Obviously, Mark Zuckerberg's contributions of probably a billion dollars helped just a little bit. So thanks for coming to Mar a Lago, but we'll maybe pass on that. Jeff, I think we're gonna have to bring Mike Lindell on, but I will say I'm gonna give you a chance to redeem yourself. You have to choose between Government Gangsters, the film or Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws, the book, which I feel like you were at the launch party for both. You can only choose one. Which one do you go With I.
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Jeff Clark
Can'T choose my own movie.
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Alex DeGrasse
I've been told you can.
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Jeff Clark
I think I would choose Government Gangsters because it's a movie and so I like moving pictures. But I do think the book's excellent as well.
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Natalie Winters
There we go. We just killed two ad reads.
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Jeff Clark
There you go.
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Natalie Winters
And Jeff Clark. Pimp yourself out where people want to follow you. Get all the books, everything. Where can they go?
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Jeff Clark
All right, without endorsing that handoff, we're.
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Natalie Winters
Standing, so it's super casual.
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Jeff Clark
Okay, Very good. So. And you caused my earpiece to pop out with that one. So I'm Jeff Clark at Jeff Clark us on X& Getter and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social. And you can follow the doings of the center for Renewing America@americarenewing.com thank you.
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Natalie Winters
For co hosting with me. Always an honor and a pleasure. Mike Lindell, someone who is also an honor and a pleasure to have on War Room. Hit us with the latest.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, I do want to say, Natalie, that. Yeah, the 2020 election, my team, we're getting it out there. We will never stop. You go to lindellplan.com you can learn all about it. We've got it all. We've had it all. And we will get this to fruition where we will end up in our country with paper ballots and count it. But all that being said, that's why they attacked me. That's why the IRS just two weeks ago. Now they're attacking me again before this administration leaves. But what we've done is you, the War Room Posse, with their great support, we're extending Black Friday's sale and Cyber Mondays. If you go, if you go ahead and put it up, we've got all the premium pillows. That right there, this is the one. You guys have all loved the premium MyPillows that. 1898 for the Queen, 1998 for the King, 749 for the MyPillow 2.0. You guys, all of these specials are still there. And what we've done, we have the 60 day money back guarantee extended out to March 1st of 2025. So you can do all your Christmas shopping with these specials there. We're leaving them up for the War Room Posse. You go to the MyPillow website, go down TSC our great leader Steve there, click on him and do all your Christmas shopping right now. All of it. You have the MyPillow mattress topper. Get yourself one of them. Get yourself a new bed. You get an extra hundred dollars off. Besides saving up to 50%. And all of these, you know, they get yourself a great gift there. And then you have all the towels came in, the slippers, all that's in now for Christmas. And you guys get the biggest discounts of anyone in history. The bathrobes, the sheets, the bed sheets, the Giza Dream bedsheets, all of it. The kitchen towels, they're all in. They're on sale with Black Friday special. You see there the towels and dishcloths, 1498. So you guys take advantage of this. And also don't forget mystore.com over 2000 entrepreneurs there and thousands of products. Check that out. Promo code, war room.
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Joe Scarborough
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Natalie Winters
Living in Joe Biden's America is Mike Lindell. Thank you so much for joining us. And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me for this hour. And of course, Jeff Clark, thank you for burying me for this last hour. Don't worry, Stephen K. Bannon will be back tomorrow morning. In the meantime, I hope you guys have a good one.
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