Episode 4113: Defending Our Southern Border; The Lawfare Of Marc Elias

Summary

Bannon's War Room Episode 4113 Summary

Title: Defending Our Southern Border; The Lawfare Of Marc Elias
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Release Date: December 9, 2024

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1. Political Strategy Against the Democratic Party

Timestamp: [00:00] - [01:47]

Stephen K. Bannon opens the discussion by addressing strategies to oppose the Trump administration, emphasizing that Democrats need to secure more electoral victories to effectively challenge the current administration. Mark Elias and Mike Davis elaborate on the necessity for Democrats to focus on winning elections rather than solely organizing around issues.

• Mark Elias [00:10]: Highlights that while organizing around issues is important, shifting the political landscape requires changing the composition of those in office. He underscores the significance of electing Republican governors and state legislators over Democrats.

• Mike Davis [00:10]: States, “We need to have a new opposition that is first and foremost focused on winning elections... The gap between a Democrat and a Republican is so wide that right now that is more important than the inter-party dispute about which Democrat will enact better incremental policies than another Democrat.”

2. Challenges Within the Democratic Party

Timestamp: [01:47] - [08:50]

Bannon and his guests discuss the internal struggles of the Democratic Party, highlighting a divide between the elite, credentialed class and the broader base. They argue that the Democratic Party is becoming increasingly elitist, losing touch with working-class voters, including African Americans and Hispanics.

• Mark Elias [01:49]: Criticizes the Democratic base as being dominated by “super wealthy, the credentialed class,” likening them to “obnoxious graduates of Brown University” and contending that the party is too narrow and focused on issues like abortion.

• Cash Patel [03:30]: Argues that expanding the Republican base to include African Americans and Hispanics is crucial. He states, “African Americans make up 13% of the population. They generally vote 95% Democrat. If you change that number to 85% Democrat instead of 95% Democrat, that is a 1.3% overall swing in the national electorate.”

3. Expanding the Republican Base

Timestamp: [08:50] - [13:05]

The conversation shifts to the effectiveness of President Trump's policies in attracting a more diverse voter base. Bannon criticizes attempts to moderate Trump’s image, asserting that maintaining a tough stance on issues like immigration can broaden Republican appeal.

• Stephen K. Bannon [08:50]: Emphasizes, “If you stay with his populist nationalist policies... you’re going to expand your base instead of spending all your time and money to send President Trump out to the suburbs to give a nicer version of Trump.”

• Cash Patel [07:06]: Highlights the importance of focusing on “America first” and populist messaging to continue attracting diverse voters and countering Democratic narratives.

4. Legal Battles and Nominations

Timestamp: [10:57] - [14:44]

Bannon introduces Cash Patel’s efforts on Capitol Hill, focusing on confirming President Trump’s nominees for key positions. The discussion includes strategies to combat opposition tactics aimed at jamming Trump’s appointments.

• Cash Patel [11:36]: Explains the concept of impoundment, asserting, “The president has to take care under his Article 2 power... he can impound them, meaning he doesn’t have to spend the money appropriately. He can send it back to the Treasury.”

• Stephen K. Bannon [14:44]: Encourages listeners to support the Article 3 Project by contacting their senators to ensure the confirmation of Trump’s nominees like Cash Patel and Pete Hegseth.

5. Immigration and Southern Border Issues

Timestamp: [25:11] - [41:37]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to immigration, detailing efforts to prevent a surge of illegal crossings before President Trump takes office. Guests Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Berquam report from Mexico City, discussing the imminent influx of migrants through mechanisms like the CBP1 app.

• Ben Berquam [25:11]: States, “They are rushing through as many people as they can right now on our ports of entry every single day from now until President Trump takes office. They are flooding our country with illegals.”

• Oscar Blue Ramirez [29:30]: Confirms the ongoing use of the CBP1 app to expedite migrant entry, saying, “They are flooding our country with illegals... trying to make a run for it before Donald Trump becomes president.”

• Stephen K. Bannon [34:38]: Urges immediate action to cut federal grants to NGOs facilitating illegal immigration, emphasizing the strategic placement of these organizations to exacerbate border challenges.

6. National Debt and Defense Authorization

Timestamp: [43:24] - [54:51]

Bannon addresses the looming national debt and criticizes the $900 billion defense authorization bill. He links excessive federal spending to inflation and advocates for economic strategies to mitigate financial instability.

• Stephen K. Bannon [43:24]: Explains, “The national debt and the deficits that drive it... The strategy remains the same for you. You got to diversify your savings... It’s important to have a safe haven for your savings.”

• Jillian Barbary [47:59]: Discusses personal debt relief strategies, likening debt to a “ticking time bomb” and promoting services that negotiate with creditors to alleviate financial burdens.

7. Recent Legal Developments

Timestamp: [25:11] - [41:37], [34:38] - [54:51]

The episode briefly touches on the legal acquittal of Daniel Penny in Manhattan, critiquing the judicial process and labeling it as politically motivated.

• Stephen K. Bannon [35:21]: Comments on the acquittal, stating, “This is treason to me. This is exacerbating an invasion... It’s a treason...”

8. Conclusion and Future Plans

Timestamp: [54:51] - End

Bannon wraps up the episode by reiterating the urgency of addressing the immigration crisis, confirming Trump's nominees, and tackling the national debt. He encourages listeners to stay engaged with ongoing efforts and participate in supporting Republican initiatives.

• Stephen K. Bannon [45:09]: Summarizes, “We have three lines of work: World War 3, debt and deficit, and the invasion of the southern border. Let’s keep that in mind.”

• Final Remarks [54:08]: Emphasizes the need for immediate action against debt and encourages listeners to utilize services like Done With Debt for financial relief.

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Notable Quotes

• Mike Davis [00:10]: “The gap between a Democrat and a Republican is so wide that right now that is more important than the inter-party dispute about which Democrat will enact better incremental policies than another Democrat.”

• Cash Patel [03:30]: “African Americans make up 13% of the population. They generally vote 95% Democrat. If you change that number to 85% Democrat instead of 95% Democrat, that is a 1.3% overall swing in the national electorate.”

• Stephen K. Bannon [08:50]: “If you stay with his populist nationalist policies... you’re going to expand your base instead of spending all your time and money to send President Trump out to the suburbs to give a nicer version of Trump.”

• Ben Berquam [25:11]: “They are flooding our country with illegals... part of this plan to invade America and then force Trump’s hand.”

• Oscar Blue Ramirez [29:30]: “They are flooding our country with illegals... trying to make a run for it before Donald Trump becomes president.”

• Stephen K. Bannon [34:38]: “The national debt and the deficits that drive it... You got to diversify your savings.”

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Conclusion

Episode 4113 of Bannon's War Room focuses on the strategic opposition to the Democratic Party by emphasizing electoral victories, the internal challenges within the Democratic base, and the expansion of the Republican coalition to include diverse voters. A significant focus is placed on immigration, detailing the tactics employed by NGOs and the Biden administration to facilitate illegal crossings before Trump’s inauguration. Additionally, the episode addresses the national debt and criticizes massive defense spending as contributors to economic instability. Throughout the episode, Bannon and his guests advocate for proactive measures to support Trump’s agenda, confirm key nominees, and secure America's borders, while also highlighting financial strategies for listeners to protect their personal assets.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

First and Mark, maybe the most obvious and not necessarily groundbreaking, but to oppose the Trump administration, Democrats need to win more elections.

[Mark Elias]

Tell us about that.

[Mike Davis]

Yeah, this may seem self evidence to people, but I actually think it's a very important lesson right now is that a lot of people tend to organize around issues and there's good reasons for that. You know, issues are why we elect politicians. Right. We elect politicians so that they enact good policies, but we sometimes lose sight of the fact that we're not going to get those policies unless we change the composition of who's in office. So we need to have a new opposition that is first and foremost focused on winning elections. You know, the difference between having a Democratic governor versus a Republican governor, the difference between having Democrats control State legislatures vs Republican state legislatures is more important, I would argue, than anything else. Right. You can argue at the margin about what the policies should be or shouldn't be when they are elected, but the gap between a Democrat and a Republican is so wide that right now that is more important than the inter party dispute about which Democrat will enact better incremental policies than another Democrat. Same obviously for Congress. We have important midterm elections coming up in two years and the difference between Speaker Jeffries and Speaker Johnson is more important than any difference between and among Democrats. And so we need to be ruthlessly focused on how do we recruit and run candidates that can win, how do we make sure they are funded, how do we make sure they have messages, how to make sure that they are supported and not attacked by parts of the opposition. The opposition needs to unite around recruiting and running effective elections.

[Mark Elias]

The second thing you talk about is.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The importance of having a big tent of thoughts and ideas within the Democratic Party. Yeah, they're panicked right now. Tell me about this, because you can see they're trying to lay the groundwork right now. The Democratic Party is the super wealthy, the credentialed class, right? Particularly these obnoxious graduates of Brown University. Places like Brown University, what I call the young girls that run the ad agencies. This is why you see so many bizarre ads. The credentialed class, that's all the college graduates. And then you have the plebeians, this kind of underclass at the bottom, that's the Democratic Party. The Republican Party has now turned into a working class and middle class party. Still have the problem with the donors and the established order of the rhinos or what you're seeing in the Senate. But we've gone through our civil wars and hey, we're far from Finish those civil wars. We're far from having total control of the party as you're seeing these Senate confirmations, which I'll ask Mike in a second about. But here, you see, that's the cry in the wilderness, is it not, Mike Davis, where Mark Elias is starting to say, look, the implication is abortion. Abortion is an issue that's gotten us there. But we're too narrow and focused. These guys are expanding their tent. Remember, we're supposed to be the fascist, the garbage. The deplorables are actually becoming more inclusive with African American and Hispanics coming on board. Right. To support President Trump in the MAGA movement. They're becoming narrower and narrower. Guys like Mark Elias get it. But here's the thing. This is not something you just wave a magic wand and it happens overnight. This takes years of pick and shovel work to do it. Brother Davis.

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, I think Mark Elias is saying that we can't have our party base only be wealthy, woke white pain in the ass women. So maybe we can expand beyond that because were losing a huge number of black men because of this new direction in the Democrat Party. African Americans make up 13% of the population. They generally vote 95% Democrat. If you change that number to 85% Democrat instead of 95% Democrat, that is a 1.3% overall swing in the national electorate. And the Democrats have a very hard time winning when that happens. As they just Learned in this 2024 election when President Trump won a huge number of black voters, historic number, I think it was up like 20%. And that's just what the black voters are telling the exit pollsters. What are they actually doing and not telling that, the exit pollsters. So this is a very good realignment for the Republican Party under President Trump's leadership. We're bringing in African Americans and Hispanics and people who work for a living. And the Democrat Party is becoming this elitist, snotty woke club. And Mark Elias is rightly pulling the alarm and saying we can't survive as a party with a bunch of angry white woke women as our base.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You know, this is the argument for the folk, for the folks at home, is that. And this was a major strategic argument we won back before the primaries. But during the primaries there was a huge push for what I call the Nikki Haley element to have President Trump moderate some of his policies and try to go to the quote, unquote mythical suburban woman that we could turn back aside. And I kept saying it's not going to happen. They don't like Trump. They're not going to like Trump. There's nothing you're going to do. Now, we did win some portion, but I said to try to modify his policies to go after that. If you stay with his populist nationalist policies, and particularly where he's tough on things like border security and immigration, you're going to have African Americans and Hispanics come to us because they're worried about the same issues they're worried about. As President Trump said groceries. He said immigration and groceries. That's what he won on. If you continue to be tough on that and inflation, you're going to expand your base instead of spending all your time and money, which they wanted to do, to send President Trump out to the suburbs to give a nicer version of Trump. Remember, you saw this a little bit at the convention where it kind of went to a Kumbaya convention. Now, he came out guns blazing after that, particularly when Biden dropped out. And they had the politics of joy against this. The politics of joy lasted about four weeks. It wasn't sellable. But, Mike, you've been involved with the Republican Party a long time. There's always this tendency of the rhinos to want to moderate President Trump and moderate the MAGA movement. And it feels better. It's more comfortable with the country club. So you can sit around and you don't have all these MAGA folks with red ball caps and bib overalls. Right. I'm saying that metaphorically, but Mark Elias gets it, too. He gets it on their side. They're trying to actually get away a little bit from the credential class. The understanding you can't win national elections if you just got the know it all from Brown University. Who's running the, who's making the marketing and merchandise ad buy over there on broadcast tv. Sir?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah, I mean, I grew up working class in Iowa. Used to be Democrat. Polk county was very Democrat. My parents were. They worked in majority minority public schools. And I'll tell you what, this Trump America First MAGA messaging is populist. Messaging is resonating very well with real Americans in real America, including African Americans and Hispanics. And you ask, you know, how do African Americans and Hispanics vote for President Trump? Well, guess what? They're the ones who have to live with the crime. They have to live with the fallout from, from these wealthy white woke policies. It's the, it's the working class black Americans and Hispanic Americans who have to live with the resulting crime in their neighborhoods. They're the ones who have to live with the Migrant crime. They're the ones who have to compete for the jobs. They're the ones who are disproportionately harmed by these Democrat policies, like, for example, when the Democrats oppose school choice and keep poor black and Hispanic kids trapped in failed government schools. And this is a realignment that President Trump has started. We need to lean in as a party and build upon this. This is how we're going to keep winning elections over and over and over is tearing in to the Democrat coalition. They're not going to run on the facts that they're Marxist who are trying to control every aspect of our lives. And so they lie to us. They try to divide and conquer us and run on coalitions. We need to tear into their coalitions. And it's not by pandering. It's to lean in and sell our America first, our populist message and how it's better for them and their communities.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mike Brad Thayer warned us this morning. All weekend we've been working with these guys going through this. A couple of things that they're trying to do to jam up President Trump immediately. I want to go in the Nation. Even as we're speaking, the Nation magazine, which is the big magazine on the far left, comes out with what Biden has to do is parole and pardon immediately all the 10 to 15 million illegal aliens that came in on his watch. This is what they are saying, hey, watch out. They could take a sledgehammer to this. Walker said, we had Ben Berquam in Mexico City. We're going to go there in a minute. President Trump has reinforced this as a priority. He said, I'm deporting with Welker. I'm deporting all illegal. Everybody here illegally is going home, number one. Number two, I'm going to do away with birthright citizenship. Right. And then I'll think about the DACA guys later. What they're saying now on the far left is Biden has a step forward and pardon, right? Or parole or commute the sentences or whatever for all 15 million that came in on his watch. Is that doable? Is that, that's, that's, that's going to shove us into a constitutional crisis, is it not, sir?

[Cash Patel]

Yeah. I mean, he may be able to mass pardon for the criminal elements of being in the United States as an illegal immigrant, but I don't think you can pardon for the civil immigration enforcement, meaning President Trump may not be able to prosecute the illegal immigrants if they've come into our country illegally after a Biden mass pardon. But the president can certainly deport them under our civil immigration laws. And that's what President Trump look, if Joe Biden actually follows through and mass pardons these 10, over 10 million illegal immigrants, including violent migrants, including illegal immigrants from vicious Venezuelan games who are raping, robberying, murdering Americans, I guess he wants they are pouring gasoline on themselves in the Democrat Party party and lighting the match. They're going to destroy their party for decades if they do this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to go to what pay let up. You know, you had the Doge guys up there last week, right? Now they've put the NDAA for the Defense Department and nobody can figure out why. Check with everybody. The NDAA, which is under just under $900 billion, they want to get the authorization passed now before Trump gets there. We're trying to find out why because it's very suspicious. But Paoletta has come up with really helped Doge is this concept of impoundment. Okay, walk our audience through impoundment. Why is this a new why is this going to be a new something the Constitution has that we can use? And why do you think it will eventually have to be settled at the Supreme Court?

[Cash Patel]

So Congress appropriates money. And Mark Paoletta, when he was the general counsel of the Office of Management and Budget for President Trump the last time, has came up with a very good legal argument that even if Congress appropriates money, the president has to take care under his Article 2 power under the Constitution that take care that the funds are being spent appropriately. And if he doesn't think that they are, he can impound them, meaning he doesn't have to spend the money appropriately. He can send it back to the Treasury. This is a powerful tool by the president to make sure, for example, we're not sending tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine to underfund the lavish lifestyle of Ukrainian oligarchs who have fled the country and have yachts and houses around the world. That's something that the president should be able to look at and make sure doesn't happen under his impoundment. Power under the Constitution. Constitution.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Also last we got Cash Patel. Audience, you should know Cash Patel is on Capitol Hill. He's going to be meeting with Cornyn and Joni Ernst. Pete Hegseth is back up this afternoon. He's going to meet with Senator Ernst also. I think everybody would agree she's the linchpin of this this thing about forced the recesses. Walk me through the theory of the case with Paoletta and those guys that come up we got about a minute, Mike, because this is going to be another big one.

[Cash Patel]

I would say this, I would. Last week everyone said that Cash Patel was dead. And then the Article 3 project teamed up with the War Room Posse and made over 20,000 contacts with their home state senators. And Cash Patel went from dead on arrival to when does he start? We're going to do the same thing with Pete Hegseth because guess what? The Senate must confirm President Trump's qualified executive branch picks, particularly his cabinet picks. If someone says a qualified pick is disqualified, it is the opponent's job to come forward with clear and convincing testimony, public testimony and other evidence. I would say this Pete Hex is clearly qualified. Those claiming he's disqualified from personal misconduct better come forward with very clear and convincing evidence, including testimony from potential, potential so called victims. And I would also end it on this. If drinking and weaponizing is disqualifying for public office, there are a lot of senators who may, who may have a primary challenge under that standard.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Where did they go for Article 3? Right now we need every man in the ramparts where they go.

[Cash Patel]

Mike, article3project.org article number three project.org the biggest one right now is the middle one. Pete Hexap. We need to light up the Senate. Call your home state senators, email them, light them up on social media. The Article 3 Project Action page makes this very easy to do. It takes about two minutes for all of those things. So go to article3project.org and take action. Also donate and follow us on social media.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Mike Davis on fire as usual. Appreciate you. Article three. Amazing short break. I'm gonna break it all down for you next. Big victory on the 5th of November. Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country. One of the biggest is the national debt and the deficits that drive it. Hey, you think the country's broke? The country is broke. We're just printing money to keep this house of cards going. The strategy remains the same for you. You got to diversify, diversify your savings. That's why buy gold from Birchgold. So many things are out of your control, out of the President's control. It's important to have a safe haven for your savings. Birch Gold group, my gold company will help you convert an IRA or 401k into an IRA into physical gold. Let me repeat that. Convert your IRA or 401k into an IRA in physical gold. And the best news, it doesn't cost you a penny. Text ban into 989-898 get your free info kit. 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So I think the neocon is going to want to drag him in. It's incumbent upon us to make sure that we have President Trump's back, not to get sucked in there. Birchgold.com end of the dollar empire. Find out what the prime reserve, prime reserve currency is, why it's important to your financial well being, and how you can look at precious metals now as an alternative, as a hedge against times of turbulence. Birchgold.com birchgold.com Bannon and also you can just text at Bannon B A N N O N 989-898 we're coming out with the new installment. Totally free to get you up to speed. This is on modern monetary theory. The idea that broke the world came out of France. A lot of good ideas coming to France, but a whole lot of bad ones come also. Okay, Cash Patel, where do we stand with all this? One, one line of battle right now is on these confirmations. There we got some B roll. You got Cash. Cash Patel is on Capitol Hill. Cash Patel is up there seeing senators today. I think he started with John Cornyn. Remember, John Cornyn was on Hugh Hewitt. Hugh Hewitt is about as moderate and as rhino as you can get. And Cornyn said, hey, I think Cash is going to get. Cash is going get confirmed. And Hewitt goes, thank God. Or said, hey, I think so. Cash Patel, I believe, brings as much experience on counterintel and counterterrorism as anybody they've ever put. As the director of the FBI now I might be wrong in that, but I don't think I'm wrong. He brings an enormous amount of experience on counterintelligence, counterterrorism, which is, I would argue, over 50% of the FBI's job. Now, I'm not saying that long term, particularly restructuring, that stays with the FBI. But Cash is as good and as deep a knowledge as anybody they've ever had on that, which is one of the most important jobs of the FBI, particularly domestically here in the United States. That's kind of their mandate. He's very well qualified. And what they're getting on Cash is for government gangsters. That's why. Go see the film. Go to war room. Dot film. Just watch it yourself. It's about an hour long. It's Cash Patel. Not just his own voice, he's looking right in the camera as we made this movie, around him, around the book. And Cash explains the entire thing to you. You make the decision, you're free men and women. Just watch the film and you come away. That's what they're all over him about. Oh, he's targeting people. Cash is not targeting anybody. These people targeted themselves by their crimes. And as you know, I'm a huge believer in the deconstruction, administrative state, the deep state, but particularly you got to start somewhere. I think the FBI is actually the centerpiece of that. Cash Patel's on Capitol Hill. He started with Cornyn, who seems very supportive. He's going to Joni Ernst. Cash has a long time relationship given her knowledge on Capitol Hill in intelligence, counterintelligence, counterterrorism. I think Senator Ernst thinks very highly. Cash, I know he thinks very highly of her and she's the centerpiece right now for this situation with Pete Hegseth. And if things stay where they are, I believe strongly that Pete Hegseth is going to get, is going to get confirmed. More importantly, overall, it's important that we have President Trump's back on these appointments. Nominations just through Article 3 and go check out Article 3. They had 20,000, I think, touch points with senators on, I think this Thursday, Friday of last week. And it looked like Pete's nomination was really in jeopardy. Not that it's out of jeopardy, but it was hanging by a thread. 4:00 on Thursday, folks, right before we started the 5:00 show. It was, it was grim now, you know, the people had their voices heard and it shouldn't be Lawson people that Tillis, Ernst and Cornyn are all what we call in cycle. That means that a year from now they'll be facing primary challenges. And of course, these folks want to have as few mag of folks running against them. Grace has got Bill Blaster, Mike Davis has got his operations center. Of Article 3, however, you find the easiest and best way. The reason this audience is kind of revered and feared is because you're activists and you will put your shoulder well. And it's not just some dumb phone call you're making. When you call. I hear this all the time. You're very informed. The staff just can't blow you off. Or when you see these senators, when you go to these gatherings and you're up in people's grill talking to them, they go, wow, these guys know the details. They have the receipts. I think it's very important. We have fights now. Pam Bondi, Tulsi Gabbard, I think Scott Bessett, some of the others are going, I don't think Bobby Kennedy. I'm going to check that. I don't think Bobby Kennedy's coming this week. Maybe he is, but those are going to be up there. Cash is up there, at least for today, maybe tomorrow, maybe even the next day if he gets, you know, gets more and more traction. I think might be a little early for Cash, but I can see particularly the fact that Cash knows Pete Hegseth very well from Cash's time over at Fox. Being on TV over there and knowing Pete for years and years and years, like I said, Joni Ernst, I think is the key to the Hegseth nomination. And this is obviously if there's no other shoe to drop. And we know that Jane Mayer at the New Yorker, the New York Times, they're trying to do oppo dumps on Pete Hexith nonstop. But Pete Hexith. And I will also tell you behind the scenes of actually pulling the department together, Pete Hexith is doing a fantastic job. In fact, Cash was. They have one person kind of in charge of helping pull together the department. Cash is doing a lot of work in national security and intel because he's an expert in that. And Pete Hexath is working behind the scenes nonstop to put his team together. So folks should take the takeaway here is that things are progressing. There's a ton of work getting done. You're going to see tons of names coming out in kind of those second, third tier. Both the folks that don't have to be confirmed and folks have to be confirmed as the teams in the verticals start to get filled out. And you're seeing some incredible, incredible names. This shows you Remember the programs that we've had for the last three or four years, and those just wasn't Project 2025. AFP had one. There was about half a dozen of these things. What they would do is to get people working on policies and thinking through policies. So you have a whole policy, you know, set of prescriptions that you can start with day one. So really think policy through for executive orders, what you want to talk to Congress about, just even how you manage the federal. The federal government. The other is personnel. You have to have 3,000 people. You know, you have these. You have landing teams, you have beachhead teams, and then you're kind of there, bang, let's get in there. 3,000 don't have to be confirmed by the Senate. 1,000, approximately have to be confirmed. Plus you have tons of contractors, all of that. And this is coming from years of work. This is why it's a pretty deep bench over there, people looking at. So it's much deeper than we had in 16, which is, you know, we were 1,000% on winning, that we didn't have a second to focus on anything else and then put it together on the fly. I think that the great work that was done in 17, particularly on the economy, you know, getting out of some of these, whether it's TPP or the Paris Accord or these things, and start to make the military understand that they weren't going to run the deal, the uniformed services weren't going to run the deal President Trump was going to do. It laid the groundwork for 18 and particularly 19, the economic renaissance brought on by President Trump. Let me go to. I want to go to Mexico. Say, I got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Berquam. Ben, what are you guys down there for? We're going to spend a couple of segments with you guys. We always love you guys in the cutting edge. Why are you down in Mexico City, sir?

[Ben Berquam]

Well, Steve, it's to really show the Trump effect, what's happening down here, even before Trump has taken office, the impacts that he's having. We're starting here in Mexico City. We're going to be doing a tour that I don't think anyone's done before, going up to Monterey and then starting from the Gulf of Mexico on the Mexico side, heading across the border at multiple points of entry, showing what Mexico is doing to stop the invasion now that President Trump has threatened tariffs. But also what the Democrats, the leftists, the NGOs, trying to rush through all these CBP1 apps, and then also what the cartel is doing on Top of that. So there is all kinds of dynamics happening right now. We're down at one of the camps yesterday, about 500 illegal aliens waiting for their CBP1, talking to them about what they're doing. They're in anticipation of what's happening. A ton to come down here.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Steve, hold it for a second. What do you mean, cp Ho ho. It's full stop. What do you mean they're waiting for this? TPB1 has. The Biden administration is not still trying to jam people across using the app. Please tell me that's not what you're talking. No, please, Ben, don't mess with me. What do you mean by that? Don't drop a bomb like that and walk away. What is it?

[Ben Berquam]

Oh, my God. Yes, Steve, that's exactly what they're doing. They are rushing through as many people as they can right now on our ports of entry every single day from now until President Trump takes office. They are flooding our country with illegals. And as you just heard there, it's all part of this plan to invade America and then force President Trump's hand. I really want to talk about that in the mainstream media and really a point that we have to play in this as real news to counteract the fake news as we go forward.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Oscar, is this true? Is Ben not pulling my leg? They're still using the app with 40 days ago to try to jam more people across the border.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Yes, sir. In Tapachula, as caravans were being made, you have around 15,000 that they already approved. You got around 1000 to 1500 on Mondays and Tuesdays. Then you have a scattered 25,000 right here in the center parts of Mexico that they're already waiting for the CBP1 app to be approved. Plus the hundreds of thousands they are waiting on the Northern Motors with the United States of America. This was the collapse that I was talking about, that this was going to be overwhelmed on the last days before Donald Trump, you know, takes office on the January 20th.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sir. Okay, guys, hang right there. I got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Berquam to have for four years led the charge of exposing what's really going on. And this is why President Trump, President Trump said it was the border and groceries and the people that showed you what was happening in the border for four years. Going to some of those dangerous places on Earth. Earth. We're real. America's Voice investigative team of Ben Berquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez. Honored to have him on. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Make sure you gotta be at the ramparts. We need Pete across, we need cash across the goal line. If you get tied up, particularly somebody gets into your title, takes out a second mortgage, a hard money lender. They don't want to hear your tale of woe. Go to home titleock.com ban and check it out today. Find out how you protect yourself. Short break going back to Mexico next. I've been telling you about cyber scammers who try to steal Graceland. The FBI calls this house stealing and it's a real threat. If you own a home or any real estate, pay close attention. When was the last time you checked the title to your home? With an average of 90% of your net worth in your home, criminals are targeting homeowners like never before. They can transfer your home title, take out loans in your name and leave you with a financial nightmare. Act now to protect your home's equity with triple lock protection from home title lock. Go to hometitlelock.com Enter your address and find out if your title is still in your own name. Use promo code Bannon to get a complete title scan and your first 30 days of protection free. That's 30 days of free protection and peace of mind. Do not wait. Take action right now to protect your most valuable asset. Visit hometitlelock.com and use promo code Bannon. That's home title lock.com promo code Bannon. Please do this. Today.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

We are at a migrant camp that is located on the central parts of the city of Mexico. This migrant camp apparently has been coexisting for around a year or two years. You have a lot of people right here from Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and also Haiti that they have been waiting for the CBP1 app. A lot of them, they have been waiting here for six to eight months. And I just asked one of the migrants, what are they going to do now that Trump is going to basically eliminate the CBP1 app? She said, well, if that happens, I will stay to work here in Mexico. Well, I'm just going to return back to my country. So that is the basic Trump effect now that things are going to go back to just eliminating the CBP1 app and, you know, people are going to return back home.

[Ben Berquam]

And so this is where you live.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah.

[Ben Berquam]

Are you by yourself or with your family?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Mind boggling. I tell folks, while we're trying to push our nominees across, 202-224-3121 is the number for the Senate. You've got Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense Cash Patel, Director of the FBI. Also, Pam, Tulsi, I think Scott Besson and Pam are going to be fine, but Tulsi Gabbard's next up in the hopper and then Bobby Kennedy. So you're working on that and having President Trump's back to game the team he wants, team he needs at the same time on the three lines of work. Right. Let's keep that in mind. The war, the, the debt and the deficit and the in the invasion. Somehow up there, there right now, on the debt and deficit in the war, they're trying to push through a $900 billion defense authorization. That's not the exact appropriation. Once. That's top line number set. Hey, Doge boys, boys. And Doge, you're not going to be cutting. You're going to be cutting this for a couple of years from now. This is why this has to be stopped now. Somebody's got to wake up Team Doge. These folks on Capitol Hill are original gangsters. They're OGs. They know what they're doing. Mitch McConnell, Schumer, all of them. That defense budget is not for defense of the realm. It's a cash money machine for the war profiteers. On the war. They're trying to drag him into Syria right now. Biden's making commitments about troop commitments about certain areas are going to be safe. Striking isis, they're trying to suck him into that arc of instability from Ukraine to Romania, the Balkans, Greece, Turkey, Syria, all the way down to Persia and now in the North Arabian and Red Sea, they're trying to get this Third World War expanded. And they're trying to suck the United States in more and more. And President Trump, you saw the way he treated Zelensky. He told Zelensky, this thing's got to end. It's got to end. Now, last but not least, on the invasion of the southern border. And this is what President Trump said in the interview on the first day. Deportations are starting. Stephen Miller was on TV all weekend, same thing Stephen said. Day one, they're starting. President Trump yesterday on NBC, Meet the Press. Day one, they're starting. So what is happening? Understanding they lost an election, understand the American people gave an up or down vote on this. President Trump said, I'll meet the press. I won on two things, the border and the invasion and groceries. So let me keep it simple, folks. You know, President Trump's maniacally focused on both of those, how to get ring inflation out of the system. And the way you wring inflation out of the system, wait for it. You gotta stop massive Federal spending. Hello. This is why you can't have a $900 billion defense budget. We can't afford it anymore. I'm a hawk, and I'm sitting there going, you got to use. You got to use. You got to go Sun Tzu. You got to use cyber. You have to use political. You have to use information war. You have to use mainly economic warfare in our capital markets and restrictions on technology. Not just the old let's shoot them up like in the old days. You need a lot of that, but you'll need all of it. But even as we speak, we got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Berquam, who have done the best job of any two people in this country over the last four years, to expose this. And it made an impact on Election Day. And they're telling you, oh, no, no, the app is still up and going. In fact, they're loaded in and are going to go. And the woman just says, Oscar Wilde. Well, hang on. What happens if the app expires? Well, I'm going home, of course. She's not going to live in Mexico. That's always. She's going to be in the margins there. Kind of illegal there. She's going home, which is the whole point of the exercise. So, Oscar Blue Ramirez, please don't blow my head up. Don't tell me, sir, that after losing on the number one issue. This is number one issue. And Trump, he can. He can read the room on the number one issue. While we shattered the Democratic Party and brought blacks and Hispanics to us in record numbers, they have the gall in the interim to be using this app and trying to force more invaders across the border. Oscar Blue Ramirez will start with you. Then we'll go to Ben.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Yes, sir. That is what they're doing, and that is why they're coming out more massive caravans out of the south border, because a lot of them, they don't want to wait for the CBP1 app to try to make a run for it before Donald Trump, you know, becomes president. This is why the number one thing that needs to happen as soon as Donald Trump steps into office, he needs to cut the federal grants to all of these NGOs that they're implementing strategically in the south borders and in the north borders, incentivizing this to continue and to continue and to continue. And also fake lawyers that they're going to these meetings where migrants are located and telling them how to, you know, put your information in the app before you go in. You got hundreds of thousands of people, you know, Trying to make a run for it before Donald Trump becomes president.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

BEN Hang on. Blockbuster news. Daniel Penney has been acquitted of the second charge in Manhattan. This is a blockbuster. They found hung jury on manslaughter, I think on Friday in the second charge, which the judge should have just said because they wanted to go hung jury, I think they came back and maybe even acquitted him. We're going to get some more information on that. My producer BEN People's heads in the audience are blowing up. This is treason to me. This is, this is exacerbating an invasion. It's just going to cause more issues. There's no excuse. Now, the American people rendered their verdict on the number one issue that for four years you guys should put yourself in harm's way. And quite frankly, you did it for the protection of these people. Because if you've shown over and over again how dangerous it is to go through the Darien Gap and come out here and have the cartels take you and traffic you and take your money and leave you for debt, if you can't get across, you've been there principally to protect the working class citizens of our country, but also the people coming across. You can't tell me, brother, that having the verdict rendered against them, that they're sitting down there trying to get more in while the Nation magazine is writing, hey, you gotta give a pardon for all of them that are here. Please don't tell me that my head, I can't take it.

[Ben Berquam]

BEN BERQUAM yeah, that is exactly what's happening. And I apologize for smiling and laughing when you asked me that last time. The other option is just to scream. This is, this is the enemy that we're facing, Steve. These are enemies within. President Trump talks about them and we need to prepared. This is not accidental. What we saw, the invasion was not accidental. All of that was treason. And they have aligned themselves right now. And you heard the interview with President Trump this weekend. The way they're positioning this. They want more people in between now and President Trump taking office so that they can do those sob stories every time an illegal alien is deported, every time an illegal alien adult is taken from their children. By the way, the whole point of that, every single person when they talk about that needs to say it's up to those parents. If you're a good parent, you will keep your children with you. We're not deporting American citizens, we're deporting illegal aliens. And any good parent would take their children with them. But this is what the left is doing. They're strategically placing all of these positions. They are taking positions on the board right now so that when President Trump takes office, they can have the mainstream media out there parroting all of this garbage. And the more illegals they get in, they know, the harder it becomes for President Trump and Tom Holman and the American citizens and ICE and Border Patrol to do their job. That is why it's so critical that we are here while real America's Voice, while real news is here. Steve Bannon, while we're telling you guys the truth, exposing what's happening, these guys are demons and they're enemies of our country working. And again, this isn't just. This isn't just Democrats in Washington, D.C. this is the United nations, the NGOs, Catholic Charities, all these organizations that are profiting off the largest human misery, human trafficking operation in world history.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Oscar, you have told us over and over again. And I want people just to reiterate, please reiterate, about the UN Charter, about migration. This, this is the railhead, the intellectual contract they have. But tell me about the NGOs. The NGOs are up to the necks in this. Again, they've been warned. And I'm telling the NGOs right now, you are going to be investigated. You're going to be investigated. Okay. And I think many of the people in these NGOs are going to go to prison, as they should be, for the simple fact that they have exacerbated, in full conscience, exacerbated the invasion of our country. Oscar Blue Ramirez.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Yes. You know, Tom Holman said that the United nations needs to be investigated. Of course. Absolutely. They need to be investigated. The Global Compact of Migration is the main problem. And they're using their proxies, these NGOs that they're working massively around the borders on the north borders and the south borders. What it needs to be done is cut the federal grants to these NGOs, prosecute and investigate and audit all, every single NGO that has been working, because a lot of them, and I'm saying the majority of them, they know exactly what the cartel is doing on the other side.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Side.

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

And the cartel knows that they are pandering. Where there is an open border gap, where there is an open border wall, and where they're massively operating and smuggling and this, you know, auditing all of these NGOs will give you a big glimpse of a perimeter. To know where the more than 300 plus thousand children that they're missing in the United States of America and to hold people Accountable. Steve, this is a time, this is not a time to be kind. This is a time to be tough and to hold people accountable. And these NGOs need to be held accountable.

[Ben Berquam]

And Steve, if I can add one more thing to that, the politicians, every single one of the grants that goes to these NGOs is signed off by a politician in Washington D.C. every one of those politicians that signed any of these grants needs to be investigated. We know the cartels control Mexico. They control the politicians in Mexico. But every single one of those politicians in Washington D.C. and across the country that support open borders need to be investigated as well.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Oscar, where are you guys going to be? How can people get this content? Because this is blowing people's heads up. And I know President Trump is very upset about what the Biden. This is Biden. This is how illegitimate this regime is. The Biden regime. This goes back to the beginning of the show. As President Trump said the other day, if they love their country, they would never do this. They would never exact. And now that they're being tossed into the ash can of history, the American people rendered their verdict. They're still going to do it. They're up in your grill and they have to be taught a lesson. Oscar, how can we get to the content?

[Oscar Blue Ramirez]

Well, you know, yeah, you can find me at Oscar Blue Ramirez and also in Real America's Voice News. And we're going to do a tour to show the American people the reality of what is happening, the collateral damage. And also the CBP1 app.

[Ben Berquam]

Yeah, we're going to be heading next to Monterey, Mexico from there. We're not going to be disclosing exactly where we're going to be going point to point until we get there, just for security reasons. But you'll be able to find that all we'll be reporting on all the shows on America's Voice News and then on my content, frontline america.com and then all my social media En Berquam and new Substack again, Frontline America Substack.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Guys, thank you very much. Be safe, go with God and we'll check in with you tomorrow. We're going to follow this every step of the way. Real America's voice once again on the cutting edge. This was a huge element. President Trump said the most important thing in the campaign, the most important thing. And we would have never gotten there if he didn't have Berquam and Oscar Blue and the other heroes that went down there for four years in some of the most dangerous positions. Okay. One of the smartest people in the engine room has told me, I think it's an acquittal on the second lesser charge. New Yorkers do not want to be a goldfish in a Piranha bowl. This verdict has stunned the Soros backed Marxists that are running the DA's office in Manhattan. They thought they had Penny because if you go back and look at the way the police and the police were terrible in this, the way they lied to Penny, the way they told the guy said, oh, I'm a Marine, bro, Marine to Marine. Turns out he wasn't. He was just trying to get a confession out of him. They thought they had Daniel Penny backed up. And we had Eli Crane on Saturday. This is why Eli Crane wants to give him a medal, the congressional, you know, the gold Congressional gold medal. So, Eli, very smart. Good on you. Just absolutely incredible. And hey, you want to know the corruption of these guys? You want to know how much they hate America? You look at what they're doing in Mexico right now, as hard as these deportations are going to be, and I keep saying it's going to be brutal, we have to be very humane. But just the logistics of getting folks back to their homes is going to be tough. Going to be tough. Doable. Tough, but doable. You have to do it. You can't not do it. President Trump always says that. Short break. Back in a moment.

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[Jillian Barbary]

Bannon House Speaker Dave Phelan withdraws from the speaker's race. Phelan has served two terms and will not the speaker sent Kview a statement this morning calling the roll one of the greatest honors of his life.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He says stepping aside will create the best opportunity for members to, quote, rally around a new candidate.

[Jillian Barbary]

Now he will continue to serve in the Texas House representing the Beaumont area. He says he's looking forward to help finding his replacement.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, so you did your job. Date Phelan out there was another speaker elected over the weekend. Not exactly maga, but hey, not bad, but definitely not date Phelan. You did the job there. Amazing. Okay. And Patriot Mobile, the Glenn story and the team, incredible. Go to patriot mobile.com Bannon right now. You can get free charge. You know, you shift the phones over, you can do it all. Christian based company, Judeo Christian values. American citizens working the phone banks. You deal with American citizens, they support your values. And guess what they put their shoulder down into. They put their shoulder to the wheel in Texas and we stopped Paxton being impeached and you eventually got rid of Dade Phelan. Not too shabby folks. Big win. Patriot Mobile go check them out today. Glenn Sturri and the team, they deliver and they deliver big league in the great state of Texas. Still among these top, most important states in the union for the MAGA movement. Cash Patel has just left Cornyn's office. He met with Cornyn Cash Patel on Capitol Hill, Pete Hegseth on Capitol Hill, Pete Hegseth is going to meet with Colonel Joni Ernst, Colonel Senator Joni Ernst today, very important. Make sure 202-224-3121 is the number for the switch for the United States Senate. You don't need that. If you get Bill Blaster or if you go over to article three, pick your poison choice. Do them both. Do one, just get engaged. Fix bayonets, Hegseth and cash in the barrel. They're turning the barrel and we got to get them across because President Trump wants them on the team, needs them on the team. So incredible day today kicking off Washington D.C. of course in the five to seven hour we'll be covering it nonstop. I'm also going to break down what's happening in Syria and what they're trying to do to drag us into this war. I told you the three lines of work. World War 3, debt and deficit and of course the invasion of the southern border. I hope your head's blown up. From what you've heard this morning when I say there's a $300 trillion debt of every, you know, personal, county, private companies, public companies, governments, 300 trillion worldwide. We're about to have the world's biggest margin call. That's why, thank God, Scott Besson is going to be Secretary of Treasury. A safe pair of hands. Gillian Barbary from Done With Debt. The credit card debt thinks over $1.3 trillion right now. Gen Z can make it. Unless you're using the credit cards. It's out of control. President Trump saying, I'm a cut it back to 10. The average APR is 25%. Jillian, how do people get out from under the burden of all this massive debt they've run up on the credit cards?

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Here's. I want to say this, but give the thing again. The natural income of a lot of people is put it in the drawer. I'm just not going to deal with it. It's a ticking time bomb. The interest payments are not good. They're adding interest every day. It's metastasizing. You have to take it out, open it up, see what it is, and call. Done with debt they get, you get a free consultation. There's no downside. And you got free consultation. And these people know how to negotiate to cap the overall payments, maybe get your hair cut, cap the interest payments and get a plan, a detailed plan that can work out the anxiety comes, Jillian, from people just wanting to avoid the topic, does it not?

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