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Stephen K. Bannon
There are still some very controversial picks. Tulsi Gabbard, certainly, in light of her meeting with ousted dictator Bashar al Assad. Some of her comments on Russia. You've got cash Patel. And what's going on with that? We haven't even gotten to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. What's your read on that strategy?
Alex
Yeah, and I'd also just like to add to that list Linda McMahon, chosen to run the Department of Education. You can't help but think of school children and the allegations she's been involved with. It's unfortunate. I think what is surprising, I guess it shouldn't be surprising, but what is clear is seeing how Trump as President elect is coming in and strong, arming his way through these negotiations, which aren't even negotiations. They're really just Trump saying, I want this, give me this. That strategy is reflected in the way that he tweeted about his meeting with Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada, by kind of degrading him and referring to him as a governor and sort of like referring to Canada as a 51st state, really asserting his dominance over these people by either, as Politico reported, making their life uncomfortable by having these MAGA activists make their life hell by dragging them online, or as Sahil was reporting, threatening potential primary challenges in the future, or by making them seem like they're beneath him in power or in level, when really they are two world leaders or two part of these two world leaders, and they should be treated as equals. And he's coming in with no clear strategy other than, I think, knowing that he has sort of carte blanche to do whatever he wants this time around?
Pramila Jayapal
Congresswoman Jayapal, there's no better time to talk to you than right now. What is the mood inside the Democratic caucus as you have the incoming president literally name checking members of the House, former members of the House, saying they should be thrown in jail.
Mo Bannon
Yeah. Well, Alex, it's always good to see you. You know, I think the mood is we are ready to have this fight. We are ready to take it to the American people. And we are strategizing around all the different ways that our caucus will work together, stay united and make sure that we push back on these outrageous things that Donald Trump is saying and that he is perhaps going to get his cabinet to do. I also think that they did some cleanup after that interview. You know, they started. Some of his people started saying, oh, he's not really going to set those people to jail. I just think that we are in a situation where we should wait to See what attacks he actually levies and be ready to go after them completely together and make the contrast to the American people. I'm not sure that everything we hear is going to be what he's going to do, but we have to be ready for it. And that's what I think we're doing right now.
Pramila Jayapal
Ask you one question. James Carville has been on the air with my colleague Ari Melbourne saying that he thinks, you know, the person that has the most influence right now over Trump staffing decisions and broadly the administration's agenda is former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and then everyone from Elon Musk to J.D. vance. A lot of these picks, Cash Patel, are straight from the mind of Tucker Carlson. Do you have any sense of the role he's playing behind the scenes or do you have a, you know, a thesis on or a hypothesis on kind of who's pulling the strings right now?
Ben Berquam
You know that when you think about the right wing media, you basically had Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. And Rush Limbaugh had the narrative. Everybody was really okay and he had a worldview and he was the storyteller. When he died, few people actually stepped into that void. The two that stepped into that void were Tucker Carlson. He had a narrative that everybody that he was driving that would filter down into the others. The other would be Steve Bannon. And so to James point, he's right about one thing and that's that Tucker Carlson's worldview and his narrative and the story that he's telling about America and the rest of the world. And it's not a good story that a lot of the picks and the personnel and the policies and sort of the vibe of maga, of what has become the professionalization of maga is coming from Tucker's worldview. But I wouldn't discount the worldview that Bannon is sort of pushing out there as well. I think they each are people that are, that have a narrative. They're dependent, they are related. But I think that's where Tucker's influence really is. I don't think he's picking individual people, but I think he's actually telling a big story that only certain characters can be a cast in, can be casted for.
Jack Posobiec
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Stephen K. Bannon
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not got a free shot.
Jack Posobiec
On all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.
Stephen K. Bannon
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Jack Posobiec
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. It's Wednesday, the 11th of December, in the year of our Lord 2024. Welcome to the War Room. We're pretty packed today and this evening already because there's so much going on, you know, between the transition, what's happening down in Mar a Lago and West Palm beach, then up here in Washington, D.C. transition offices. Also the fighting for the Trump agenda and President Trump's cabinet and other picks on Capitol Hill. Other nonsense going on at Capitol Hill, not much of it productive, I might add. And then geopolitically, remember the three lines of work. Let's go back to the basics. Every day we frame it around. This is the beginning stages of the Third World War, what we call the kinetic part of the Third World War happening and being the center. Although the main thing in the dispositive question is always geopolitically in the 21st century, who's going to win, the Chinese Communist Party or the American Republic? Everything should be thought of in that context. The arc of instability going from Russia, particularly southern Russia, we've turned into kind of a battlefield around Kursk and other places that are famous from the Second World War on the Eurasian landmass now all the way down through Romania, Ukraine, Romania, the Balkans, Greece and Turkey. Tom Barak, a close friend of mine and a warrior who was also imprisoned unjustly and had the courage to go to court, took a trial and won acquittal. Tom Barracks announced yesterday as the ambassador to Turkey, of course, kg, a dear friend of the show, and a dear friend of mine, announced as the ambassador to Greece. That shows the importance of President Trump. These are two people very close to President Trump. Greece and Turkey, all the way through Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, you know, Babylon, Mesopotamia, the Tigris and Euphrates. You've heard a couple of those names before, maybe from like the Old Testament all the way through, you know, Saudi, Persia, to the north, Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, Red Sea. That arc of instability is now at the forefront. Pesavi is going to join us later. Overnight or yesterday, $50 billion of your money and they're going to try to hide it. It's not totally your money. It's World Bank. No, it's your money. Billion dollars in a administration. Once you lose, it's not like you're finishing out your eight years. It's not like President Reagan where you finish out your eight years and you finish out your eight years and you're passing on in his case to Bush, kind of his third term. You should just stand down and allow the watch to be relieved like in the military. That's not what we're seeing here. On the three lines of work, the kinetic part of the Third World War, finances in debt and then, and then everything to do with the southern border. So we got Berquam in Mexico, we have EJ and Tony, inflation numbers a day, terrible, rising his head back up, Bidenomics to be foisted upon you. And of course, the Third World War. If you look at the three big lines of work that President Trump has to sort out to get to remember we want to get through this to the sunlit uplands of peace and prosperity. How does President Trump get there and how does he get there with the team? And so. And the resistance has started. The resistance, obviously, and the resistance you should look at as a two sides of the same coin in the way the apparatus is run. It's a neoliberal, neocon aspect of that. And that's the conventional wisdom. That's kind of the railhead of the thinking. And then you've got a progressive, particularly radical side of that on the, you know, with the congresswoman who's up there saying, we're ready for this fight, we're getting ready for this fight. These nominations we're going to, these policies, particularly on mass deportations, all of it. They're going to fight it. And when I say neoliberal, neocon, remember, FDR saved capitalism from itself. A lot of people argue that, but, you know, oh, you could have let markets go. Well, you would had, you know, mass, you know, deprivation, the coming from a working class family. I just remember my dad's stories. He died at 100 years old, but he was, I guess, 9 years old when the stock market crashed. And then he would talk about the early days of the Great Depression and how bad it got. You know, 50% of the men in their area in Norfolk were unemployed. And it's real nice to talk about theoretical, hey, here's what capitalism can do. But it's another thing when you ain't putting food on the table and you got five hungry kids, right? So the regulatory, the neoliberal was the regulatory apparatus that came in, that became and metastasized into the administrative state. The other part of that, the neocon part, was the beginning of the American empire at the end of World War II. We were the arsenal of democracy. And then we sold out the Russian people to the Bolshevik, their Bolshevik, and we sold out the Chinese people to the, to the Chinese Communist Party. And so here we are now you have a populist nationalist uprising in the United States led by President Trump. And he's being thwarted at every angle in talking about narrative in media, because this is at one major element of it. It is an information war. And you are the hoplites, are the cadre at the tip of the spear and becoming force multipliers in that war. Watching the show, listening to the show, sharing our content, pushing it out, becoming conversant in the topics we talk about and making sure that when you go to the precinct, strategy, when you start to use your agency, volunteering, becoming involved, becoming engaged, even just having, talking, you know, having morning coffee, if you got friends over for coffee or at the water cooler, at the, in the company or just in the bullpen, when you're talking, just putting forward these ideas and the backup to these ideas, it's an information war. And that end right there was an interesting piece. And we hopefully may play some clips that we have time, although we're already pretty overwhelmed on this show. We're going to go from North Carolina all the way to Syria and talk about what's going and everything in between right there. The end was. And this is the difference between the old and the new. The old is kind of James Carville. And you see these guys all the time from the Clinton Obama administration up there. Let them just talk smack. Carville. If you look at Carver before November 5, he was sitting there. But Trump doesn't have a chance. Trump's off ashes. Trump's a dictator. Trump's people are garbage. They're nothing but brown shirts. On and on and on. So you line a demarcation, and it's one of the reasons that MSNBC's ratings have imploded. And CNN's kind of CNN didn't have much of an artist anyway. Msnbc, the really other side of us on the information war, have imploded. Why? They oversold. Two thirds of their audience is still in shock. They were told flat out, trump's a fascist. Trump's a dictator. The American people don't support him. This thing's over. So when North Carolina flipped late in the evening, I'm not So sure, because we were doing our own show. I'm not so sure. Rachel Maddow and this guy stayed past midnight. I think they got out of town before Trump was, you know, was deemed the winner. But their audience is, like, sitting there going, they're finally awakening to the fact that they were lied to. They were lied to. Now you hear them say, well, you know, the Harris campaign knew they were behind all these geniuses. Oh, yeah, we knew we were behind, et cetera, et cetera. But they never informed their people of that. We played like we were behind the entire time. One of the things, I'm so proud of this audience. Look, I was in federal prison up until a week of it, and we didn't miss a beat. You know, Mo's here riding shotgun with me for a couple days. We had the annual Christmas party of the war room last night when we had to. And we. I think the speed. I have a talk out there. It's a clip. We're gonna set new lows. All I know is that, is that the restaurant that we took over and provide, I think they ran out of hard liquor at like 11 o'clock. It was a savage crowd, right? It was a savage crowd. As people know, I don't drink and partake in anything like that. So I shook a few hands, took some selfies, had a great time. Want to thank everybody that showed up and. But Mo and these folks are dragging a little bit this morning, so I think I've lost my voice because I actually, when I'm. When I'm off the show, I actually don't like to talk that much. People know I'm kind of a hermit. I'm kind of. I have a monkish, monkish thing because it just. I get so much going. I get so much, so many things going on. And I don't like to. Don't like to talk that much off of the show. Get plenty of it here, right? But I did lose my voice a little bit last night because so many old friends, new friends, a lot of staffers, a lot of people, people that make things work here in Washington, D.C. and that are helping us on many, many projects. But right there, Angela Khersoni, I think, is that Kherson from Media Matters and Media Matters was an old enemy under David Brock of Andrew Breitbart. It's totally changed. We give Madeleine Peltz over there, we give her a hard time of being our marketing director. We hope she's in good health. Madeleine. But Carzone shows you it's a much more sophisticated look at media and the information war than the standard stuff you just see on with the Carvel and these guys. Much more sophisticated. Short commercial break. Back in the worm in a moment.
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Pramila Jayapal
The episode even prompted one of Murdoch's daughter's representatives to write a succession memo intended to help avoid a real life repeat of the TV show. You can't make it up or I mean, maybe you actually can. There is real drama surrounding what happens to Fox and the Murdoch media empire when the 93 year old Rupert Murdoch, the real life one, eventually dies. The real life succession plan of the media empire is based around an irrevocable trust, one that would divide control of the media empire equally among Rupert's four eldest children, Lachlan, James, Elizabeth and Prudence.
Stephen K. Bannon
What is the name of the show's not Suspicion. What's the name of the show? Succession. Succession. Thank you. I've never watched it. I don't have time to watch tv. So this is college football and or MSNBC news that we have to break down. By the way, speaking of msnbc, I was at dinner the other night with some people who are progressive lefties, hardcore and they have a very different take on things. I think Mika is the star of Morning Mika. They can't stand her. Which I found. I made my pitch. It sure should be Morning Mika and it should be she should get paid more than Joe Scarborough. They weren't buying. These are long term, long time morning Mika fans. They actually think Joe Scarborough is intelligent, which I found shocking because I think he's an airhead Stephanie Rule show. Though if you're up late at night, like at 11 o'clock, she's got a fantastic show that the Late Show. She took over from Brian Williams a couple years ago. She's a former investment banker and of course she's a lefty and can't stand Trump. But if you want to see a good breakdown of the news from a left winger's perspective and people are going banner, what the hell are we doing? We got enough of that in our life succession. So here's the thing. The Murdochs are in a jam and they say, oh, it's conservative. It's not conservative. Murdoch, old man Murdoch, the Demon, the Head Devil and the sun are neoliberal neocons. All they are is for the wealthy, tax cuts for the wealthy, more money and power for the wealthy, more American troops. And this is one of the reasons I really cannot stand Murdoch not being an American. He was the biggest cheerleader and used Fox to cheerlead the Iraq war and clearly not just covered up or promoted Dick Cheney a war criminals worst elements on the lies we were told about the weapons of mass destruction we invaded. Then you had the fact that we didn't take enough troops in there, we couldn't hold it. We had this nightmare for years. They had the surges, you had all this Anbar province, I don't know what 8,000 combat casualties, tens of thousands of other casualties led to PTSD suicides. The horrible situation of folks back here. And Murdoch at some point in time just got tired and they got Tony Blair in England and the Australians into the war with us. And then when they just tired of it and they realized there was a political albatross because Bill Kristol remember all those stooges they would have on Fox at times? Bill Kristol said they're going to throw roses in the feet of the soldiers and it's going to be amazing and the troops are going to be incredible. And then you had that thing with the blue finger, remember they voted. It's just all a sham, all a joke. They're not Jeffersonian Democrats. One of the issues up in Syria right now, we got to face facts. The Muslim Brotherhood, yes, the Muslim Brotherhood in these massive organizations of Islamic supremacism and Islamic fascism that we would hope go away is not going away. Erdogan In Turkey is he wants to reinstate the Ottoman Empire in the Caliphate out of Constantinople, which they still think is the biggest since they didn't take Vienna, which Napoleon said. When you set out to take it, take it. Posovic will be up here. The Poles helped defend it. They didn't take Vienna. Constantinople is the biggest thing they took. They took the west, the eastern side of the Roman Empire, the one that lasted for a thousand years past Rome. Hello, folks out there. The Judeo Christian West. You heard of this one? Donald Trump shows up in Notre Dame. Looks like Charlemagne. Got all these munchkins running around. Pepin the Short, Macron, the Short Macron, the Short. And the two elves, his wife and Joe Biden making goo goo eyes at Trump. She definitely voted for him. The information war is much more sophisticated. So Carville gives you the standard stock. Clinton and those guys are increasingly irrelevant. And they're being treated as irrelevant now in the media. You'll see all those guys fade. Those decisions are being made right now by these channels and these networks. The new thing. And hey, they're going to have tons of popular shows. They're going to have left wing. There are so many, so many progressive populists. So populism is going to just pop out of everywhere. In fact, if we can cut it. Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren had the chutzpah, but this is kind of what you need. She had the chutzpah last night to come forward. She's put forward a bill. This Bill is from 2018, when she ran for president the first time. The bill is a bill of, she says, working based capitalism or gentle capitalism. It's got all those things that shareholder value. The maximization of shareholder value should not be the primary concern of a corporation. Hey, you know, there's an argument that maybe that goes overboard sometimes when I was at Harvard Business School, that you're stamped in that the maximum two things, maximization of shareholder value and globalization. Maximization of shareholder value. Globalization. You get your union card because I went to Harvard. I didn't get educated. You get educated, quote unquote, at the college. Maybe not anymore, because it's a propaganda factory. You get if you go to the law school or if you go to the medical school, if you go to the business school. It's just that you're learning a trade. Okay, you get a union card. Okay. Globalization, Right? Maximization of shareholder value. Globalization. Maximization of shareholder value. She counted that, but it's a bill from 18. The question I put up on ghetto is, yo, Lady Pocahontas baby, where were you in the beginning days of the Biden regime? You had the House, you had the Senate, you had Nancy Pelosi running her big mouth, right? You had Chuckie Schumer. Where was your bill then? How come it wouldn't pass overwhelmingly? Why didn't you raise taxes on the wealthy? Then the working class, African Americans and blacks realize it's a scam, it's a con. The Democratic Party plays the long con on the working class people. That's why right now there ain't many working class supporting them. It's the credential class. You got all these people that go to these universities, get all these degrees. You have no earthly idea. They don't learn anything and they don't know anything. You talk to them for two minutes, they never read a book. They have no idea of the Western canon. It's all grievance, kind of these degrees and they're not relevant. So when DEI was big, area DIA departments, all these people run around as dia. It's all blown away. And hey, if you don't think the corporations are responsible and they're the worst, because look how they turned on you, everybody, for years, give them tax cuts, deregulate, unleash these corporations. No, I'm not saying her way is right, but the way that we went is not right either, because they turned on you. The most powerful weapon against MAGA was in a tie, the weaponization of state power like the Stasi. That's what we became under Ray, under McCabe, under Comey, and by the way, Pulse Berry, you know, the great Citizen Kaine over at Citizen Free Press, put up again what Sperry came out with years ago about McCabe actually surveilling illegally Cash Patel. This is why they don't want Cash Patel back in. This is why McCain knows he's going to. McCabe knows he's going to prison. So this all revolves around the big aspect of this. The fight of this is disinformation war. And they're getting more. They've been sophisticated and kind of got lazy. But you have sophisticated people out there. Angelo Carson from the New Media Matters. Because it's very different than when Andrew went head to head with David Brock. And those were. David Brock versus Andrew was Alien versus Predator. I mean, that was big for those days. That was big because Andrew was the first guy on Twitter. First major, excuse me, first major personality on Twitter was Andrew Breitbart. And Andrew Breitbart with go with Brock. It's changed now. Media Matters is different. It monitors us, monitors other people. But they're very sophisticated and smart in saying, hey, these are narrative engines. This is narrative framing. Because they understand, you know, politics is upriver for culture. But in, excuse me, culture is upriver from politics. Culture is upriver from politics. But when you get to politics, the information warfare narrative part is upstream from the part of elective politics and volunteer politics. You have to set the narrative framework. You have to get, you know, boom, here's our strategy, here's where we're going, and we're going to move down this path. And everything then reinforces that narrative. That's information warfare. That's why the Onion is trying to buy Alex Jones and turn it into a parody site. It's quite evident. Let's go to. I got Berquam and I got. So the third line of work, the invasion Homan saying, shock and awe. We're going to be thrilled. Trump says, first thing I'm going to do, day one, the reconciliation bill. The reconciliation bill that's going. It's supposed to be reconciliation first is all on the border, all on mass deportations. I understand. Now, to give you some inside baseball, they're trying to move the tax up to that or do it together. This tax bill's way, way, way not ready. One of the reasons I'm not ready is that I'm kind of adamant about this. I'm just some schmendrick talking to the microphone. However, we can have our opinions here in the war room. I just don't see how. And this tax bill is not ready because it's on the votes. I don't see how you can reinstate the tax cuts of 17 of Trump as they were. The tax cuts now have to be. Take the tax cuts of Trump and the middle class and the working class, which are magnificent. But then you have additions that President Trump committed and promised to on the campaign trail. They got us this big coalition tax on. No tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime and other things that are going to. Guess what? Decrease revenue. So therefore, we're going to have a bigger gap of a deficit. How do we close that? Let me think, let me think. Oh, maybe taxes on corporations and taxes on the wealthy. He said it. He said it. Yes, yes, yes. Corporations, since you have the lobbyists and you force. The reason this government's so big and so the leviathan so huge and the deconstruction administrative state continues, but has to be hammered every day, is the corporations and the wealthy. They have allowed this to happen. In fact, they've supported it many times. So guess what? Until we get to a balanced budget, we have to have cuts, lots of cuts, and they have support us. But there's still going to be a gap. And what do we do there? We got to raise revenue. We're not going to do in the middle class, we're not going to do in the working class. Today's inflation, the lived experience of American people still sucks. We got to make it better. So somebody's got to pay more. Who's going to be? Maybe the people that have more. Just to be fair. I know that's heresy, but we're going to have to work it through. We'll look at some math and some numbers. We're taking a short break. Mexico, North Carolina, Syria, all of it. Next.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay. On Capitol Hill, we get back to the NDA A. I'm going to get back to the cr. I'm going to get back to the reconciliation all the inside baseball you guys love because there's a lot going on and I think we're seeing a resistance build up from the established order of the Republican Party against, I think Doge and even OMB and this DOGE OMB partnership, of which you know many of the players and have been on the show for years. I think any chop block, and some people say, no, no, no, the NDA is not that bad, but we'll lay out the case and let you make the decision. So we got some work to do on this again. I'm going to Carolina, North Carolina, in a moment. Huge fight in Carolina, which was central. Remember when North Carolina was called for Trump late in the evening on the 5th? That's where you saw the long faces. Rachel Maddow and that crowd knew it was over right then. Carolina is always the key. But when we go to Mexico, we got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Berquam. Ben, in the third line of work here. They're flooding the zone, sir. They're trying to get as many illegal aliens as possible across the border before President Trump and Tom Homan and Steve Miller show up. Ben?
Oscar Blue Ramirez
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Steve. Just so you know, I've reported from here before on the other bridge, Matamoros Bridge. We just got word. This is breaking news. They've moved it to this bridge that you can see behind me. The group you see behind me was just flown in. They were just flown in from Mexico City to Matamoros. And they're taking them. They're taking them to a hotel right now. And then what they do, the new operation is they bring them in the morning, they put them on vans, they take them across so that we don't see it, so that the media doesn't see it. The whole group behind me, all CBP1 it is in full swing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve, I can't believe you're telling me CP1 the app is still. This is. The American people are not going to tolerate this. You're telling me that app is still up having lost the election, as President Trump said with Kristen Welker, it was the border and immigration and groceries. And today we know groceries are on fire again, folks.
Tim Moore
E.J.
Stephen K. Bannon
Antony is going to join us. Walk through the CPI number. They're not good. And so right there, you're telling me, are you telling the American people right now that Biden going out the door still has the app? And the app is active to the fact they're flying folks up from Mexico City to the northern border and then get them across early in the morning so the media can't see it.
Oscar Blue Ramirez
Sir, that is exactly right. And we're starting here in Matamoros. We're going to make our way to every CBP1 port of entry from here to Tijuana to show the American people the truth. It's. It's treason. It's treason and they know it.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, Ben, just hang on. I'm come back to you and Oscar in a second. I want to go. Folks, when you sit there and we report every day, they're leaking to the media. They're working on blanket preemptive pardons. This is one of the lines of work on the invasion of the southern border. We're going to get every email, every text message, go through every meeting, see what backed up every their executive orders. There was never chaos at the border. This is a very well thought through planet. And look at here, the days. Look, they're supposed to lay down their pencils and do nothing but coordinate with President Trump. And particularly what Homan and Miller got to do and Kristi Noem have to do on the mass deportations. You understand the logistics and the works to be humane and empathetic, but they gotta go. Look what they're doing right now, they're just throwing gasoline in the fire. They have no intention of having the watch relieved in any kind of organized fashion. And you can tell it right there. We go back to Ben in a second, another huge fight. We have the speaker of the House of Tim Moore from North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, thank you so much for joining us. I tell you two things people can't understand. Number one, how does President Trump do so well? And I understand the gubernatorial candidate had some issues, but you had quality candidates arrest the undercarred just did not. It just kind of shocked people about the performance. And then you've got a fight down there where the House, you guys are in a fight to make sure that there's not a mess, being that the new folks taking over are not going to turn this thing into a circus. And there's a huge, I guess, resistance even for some Republicans. So you walk us through because Carolina is key. I told President Trump In 16, when Carolina goes, I think we got this thing. And on the 5th in the evening, you saw the long face of Rachel Maddow. Man hadn't stopped crying since Carolina got called. So tell us what's going on there. Mr. Speaker.
Tim Moore
Yes, sir. Good morning. Good to be on the show with you today. Yeah. So we have a vote this afternoon on an override. Of course. We have an outgoing Democratic governor. We have an incoming Democratic governor. And the big fight right now from we passed an aid package to help get aid to western North Carolina after this massive hurricane hit. We had $227 million. We have regulatory relief to get people temporary housing. I don't even need to tell you how, you know, it's amazing. Your other story about how, you know, they've just opened the gates to allow illegals that Biden administration, at the same time, you know, the terrible job they've done in getting aid to people, our people here in North Carolina who need this aid after the flood. But you know, we're doing thing we did in the same bill was we put in some election integrity legislation to move the board of elections from the governor to move it under our state auditor because frankly, I think we need auditing of the elections. There are a lot of questions. One race, for example, our Republican candidate for state supreme court, Steve, on election night, he was 10,000 votes ahead. Today, after all these other provisional ballots and everything, he's underwater 700 votes. A lot of questions about that. And so we've got some good election integrity to improve that accountability. And another thing, you know how you get these state attorneys general that are joining all these woke lawsuits around the country, whether it's pushing this radical environmentalism, whether it's pushing this transgender thing, all this stuff, we've got legislation to flip the wings of the attorney general so that they can't be out here pushing these crazy woke ideologies. And so that bill is on the floor today to override the governor's veto. And we got a few Republicans that are questionable on it. I think they're going to come around, but it's a big deal. It's a big vote. And you know, we need everybody calling the North Carolina legislature encouraging the Republicans to stay strong and vote for this override. So it's critical. We're a critical state in the presidential race. We've got key races coming up and we need to do things to further expand election integrity and to make sure that votes count. And this is a bill that will get that done.
Stephen K. Bannon
I tell you how important it is. I think it's Rachel Maddow has been all over this, Alex. The key primetime MSNBC have been hammering this thing Carolina. So you know, they're concerned about it. Where do people go where we have an activist base here of folks that want to use their agency. So Mr. Speaker, what's your recommendation? The votes this afternoon, what do they do? What's the call to action here?
Tim Moore
The main Switchboard number is 919-733-4111. The website is ncleg ncleg.gov but they can call and send emails to all of the Republican members. We know no Democrats are going to vote for this, but we need our Republicans to stay strong on this. They're getting a lot of pressure. All these radical groups are going to be there today to, you know, to protest. They've made a full on assault. We've got, you know, all these, all these woke folks that like to wander around creating mischief and protest for the sake of protesting or descending on our state capitol today. And we need, you know, we need, you know, we need the MAGA world to step up and, you know, remind our Republicans to, you know, to stand strong and to demand this, that this be signed into or that it go into law by overriding this veto. And, you know, I'm really proud that President Trump carried our state. I'm proud we've maintained Republican majorities in our legislature, disappointed we saw some losses in those council state races. But, you know, the best thing we can do is do all we can to make sure there's election integrity. And this is a bill that will get that done and it will provide needed relief to people in western North Carolina who have been impacted in such a significant way in this legislation. If folks want to go find the bill, they can go to the legislative website, that's@ncledge.gov and the Senate bill is S382. That's the, that's the bill. And they can look at it and see what it, see the reading of it there. It's, it's, it's something that's very important. And for a state our size, we need there some folks to need to call today. The phone will be today at 3:00.
Stephen K. Bannon
919-733-4111 in North Carolina. Make sure we want to light those phones up, make sure people know they got to vote for this, the Republicans. I want to give a appreciation of what they're doing in Carolina and particularly folks working on this, putting it under the audit. And here's why. You just talked about the situation there in your race. In California, we lost three seats because they just keep manufacturing ballots. I mean, it's four weeks after the thing and you got provisionals, you got all, you don't know where these things are coming from. In Carolina, we lost three House seats. We almost lost the majority in the House. It hadn't been for North Carolina, sir, you know, I'm not so sure. Brother Johnson, speaker of the House. I think Hakeem Jeffries might be so Carolina is absolutely central to everything we're trying to do here. And I think it's magnificent you guys are putting it under the audit. I just want to thank you 100%.
Tim Moore
And in fact, I'm actually one of the newly elected members of Congress. So on January 3rd, I'll be a new member of Congress from North Carolina. So I've been there a while and, you know, getting the swing of things. But you know, we've done good things in North Carolina, Steve. We really have. We've now got to turn the country around. But again, this action item today is going to be critical to making sure North Carolina continues to be able to do what it can to deliver victories for Republicans up and down the ticket and move this country in the right direction.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, I can't imagine folks in Carolina. Republicans have been put in there by folks for their hard work and walking precincts and doing phone banks and canvassing stuff that would vote against us. It's 919-733-4111. We'll get it up on all the social media chats. One last thing, Mr. Speaker, before we go. What is the pitch? Give me, give me the elevator pitch. What are folks supposed to say when they, when they call?
Tim Moore
They need to ask that all Republicans override the veto today of the Democratic governor on Senate Bill 382.
Stephen K. Bannon
Sir, I want to thank you, thank you for all the work. Look forward to seeing you up here in the Imperial Capitol and we can't wait to get you into war room and introduce folks to your here.
Tim Moore
Absolutely looking forward to it. Thanks for having me on. You guys have a good day.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, sir. It's Tim Moore, speaker of the House, current Speaker of the House in Carolina. Everybody get up on the ramparts. We got a pocket this hey, if you don't do this. And this has got the great relief in western North Carolina and no one's explaining, this is going to be a huge investigation how those folks in kind of MAGA country in western North Carolina, which is so beautiful out there, how they just been thrown to the wolves on and no relief. You got private groups. I did Don Junior's show be up on the podcast on Thursday. Don Junior has been down there with Samaritan's purse. You know, your aunt has been involved in this. All these folks living in Carolina, it's a mess down there and there's no rationale and excuse what's happening. I might add, the same time they're having to pass a bill in a state to get resources out to the folks of this natural tragedy that we're doing $50 billion loan package, basically your cash money. You're the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. Cash money of 20, I think $25 billion infused to the bunch of criminals oligarchs over in Ukraine. Mo Bannon, give me a minute on that before we go to break.
E.J. Antony
Well, it just shows you that this administration that currently is occupying the White House is all about America. Last the fact that we're sending money over to Ukraine again and again and again and that we're also taking care of illegal immigrants and let me rephrase, let me repeat that. Illegal immigrants that we're sending money to make sure and opening our border for them to come across to house them, feed them, and not supporting American citizens is completely disgusting and disgraceful. This administration should be ashamed of themselves. And that's why we resounding victory for Donald J. TRUMP on November 5th. We knew the American people knew that we needed change and that's why we reelected put him back in the White House. Donald J. Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
Amen. That's a great hot take. I'm pretty good at this. Great hot take. Birchgold.com times of turbulence. We're going to turbulence. I can tell you the game has already been played up here. President Trump won this mandate. And the first thing you had Elon Musk and the brother wrote and look, I got a lot of differences with Elon. He knows that I got a lot of differences with him. But hey, he stepped up and wrote a quarter of a billion dollars cash money starting I think about June. Most of that went to get out the vote efforts, the pick and shovel work that got President Trump across the goal line. Birchgold.com Bannon check it out.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Host, Stephen K. Bann. Okay, welcome back. How do we get jacked up here early in the morning in war room Mo?
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
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E.J. Antony
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E.J. Antony
I've been told I'm a great info. I might feel a little bit better. Natalie said while you were gone that I'm in Competition with Mike Lindell.
Stephen K. Bannon
So watch out. No, I get so many compliments last night. What a great job you did during the thing of holding the thing together. And Grace and then Natalie stepping up and being an on air personality was just fantastic. I get so many compliments about you and Grace holding things together. Of course. Jane Zerkel was with us. Grace couldn't join us. She's working away out in the West Coast. Natalie did join us. Had a great showing of the War Room Posse. Guess Noah was there. Donovan was there. Carrie Donovan had a whole great show. They didn't. I think Raheem kicked him out at 1 o'clock. Typical war room crowd. When the liquor ran out, they went home. Right. Oh, we're just here to celebrate. Glad to see you guys. Where's the bar? Where's the free bar? So typical.
E.J. Antony
And we had some great members of Congress stop by.
Stephen K. Bannon
We had a lot of congressional members, senators. But the key thing, look, the way the city works is that it's the staffs. The guys are so busy coming and going, and we know them personally, but we did this to get the staffs and some Warren members that are out there want to have something bigger next year. I just got to figure out how. We'd love to have more of the posse members. We're going to do something at Amfest. So go to make sure you hit Amfest.
E.J. Antony
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Stephen K. Bannon
Promo code, war room. You get 25% discount when everybody there. We're going to do some great fun things out there, get you ready for the coming year, the battles ahead, but also do some. Some celebration right, for the, for the. For Christmas and the Christmas season. So I'm looking forward to that. Charlie Kirk, I think I'm speaking the night with Tucker.
E.J. Antony
You are.
Stephen K. Bannon
So kick it off. It just shows you that Angela Carzan, brother, you got the two narrative engines, according to you, sitting there opening night at Amfest. Let's go back to Mexico. Ben Berquam. Ben, is Oscar with you also? Do we have Oscar?
Oscar Blue Ramirez
Yeah, yeah. He just finished up, doing some interviews. Steve, we're out here. The last group is waiting to get picked up. They're getting taken back to the hotel. And then these guys, just to show you what's happening, they're getting flown in every single day and they're getting dropped off. And then the next group, they get taken to the hotel. And then this group right there that you're looking at was this morning's group. They're waiting for the immigration buses to come pick them up. And they're going to get a private charter bus ride over the border into America, right across that bridge into America on your dime. This is happening and not. Steve, I think the worst part about this is how well oiled this machine is. I've never seen it like this. This is when my work has talked about controlled flow. This is it.
Stephen K. Bannon
Talk to us about that. You and Oscar have been there from the beginning. I want, I want folks, they were supposed to put pencils down on the morning of the 6th or the late in the evening, the 5th in the exact opposite. I want you to embrace this and I want you to share these clips of Ben Bercomb. When you say well oiled machine, it's not chaos down there. This is very well thought through. Think of the people that are doing this. And I'm telling the NGOs and I'm telling everybody in major crowd in the White House, these are crimes. The American people have told you this is an invasion and they don't want it and they want it reversed. You've heard what President Trump has said, Dana Death, Tom Holman said, and still you're exacerbating this invasion. This is a crime. Ben Bercomb's 100% correct. This is treason. We're going to get to the bottom of this. I don't care how much the media whines about this and how they throw the toys out of the pram. We're coming for you guys. You trying to destroy this country and you're using these people whose lives are going to be destroyed anyway. So Ben, walk me through that again about how this is a well oiled machine.
Oscar Blue Ramirez
Well, so every point along the way, whether you're coming from Venezuela or from the Middle east or from China, now you can apply for CBP1 wherever you are. And then as soon as you get to one of these State Department processing centers, one of these intake centers, they will, then you are now part of the system. And then they will fly you from that location, whether that's Mexico City or Tapachula or down in Panama or Guatemala, right up to the border or sometimes into the United States. Now, what we just witnessed this morning, it's the first time I've ever seen it. They were actually, we saw the group that was flown in this morning. They were brought into the secure area, an area we can't go to. They were dropped off. They were given their instructions. They simply walked across over to here. That's when we started interviewing them. Then they were picked up by. I'll let Oscar tell you about who's picking them up, taken to a hotel from that hotel the next day. Their appointment is to go across the bridge. They're brought back to this point. They're handed off to the immigration officials in Mexico and then they're brought across the bridge, handed off to the United States, sent to any country they want after they're handed off again to an NGO on the United States side. And every point along the way, US taxpayers are paying for it and the NGOs are getting rich on of it. And Steve, if I can hand it off to Oscar, what we're witnessing on the people that are involved in kicking.
Stephen K. Bannon
Ben, hang on one second. Oscar, hang on one second. We got to go to break. You guys stick there and we'll come Back to you. 90 second break. We're going in the second hour of the morning edition of the War Room. Jack Basoba is going to join me. Got a lot to go about the surveillance of the FBI and Cash Patel and others in President Trump's inner circle. We're going to talk about the geopolitics and the reality of the implosion of Syria and the rise of the Ottoman Empire with the Muslim Brotherhood back to Mexico. Oscar Blue Ramirez, Ben Berquam from Real America's Voice. The investigative reporters got Captain Mo Bannon on Army Navy Weekend riding shotgun with me. EJ And Tony on the increasing inflation. All next in the war.
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Release Date: December 11, 2024
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Podcast: WarRoom.org’s Bannon's War Room
The episode opens with Stephen K. Bannon addressing the contention surrounding recent cabinet appointments under President-elect Donald Trump. Notable figures discussed include Tulsi Gabbard, Linda McMahon, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Bannon questions the strategy behind selecting individuals with controversial backgrounds:
Stephen K. Bannon: "We've got Cash Patel. And what's going on with that? We haven't even gotten to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. What's your read on that strategy?" [00:00]
Alex: Highlights the unusual choice of Linda McMahon for the Department of Education amid allegations and criticizes Trump’s aggressive negotiation style, exemplified by his disparaging remarks about Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal engages with Bannon about the Democratic caucus's response to Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric, including threats against members of the House.
Pramila Jayapal: "There is no better time to talk to you than right now... the incoming president literally name-checking members of the House, former members of the House, saying they should be thrown in jail." [01:35]
Mo Bannon: Reassures that the Democratic caucus is united and prepared to counteract Trump’s aggressive statements and potential cabinet decisions, emphasizing the need to present a strong contrast to the American public.
The discussion shifts to the role of right-wing media, particularly Tucker Carlson, in shaping Trump’s administration policies and personnel decisions.
Pramila Jayapal: "James Carville... thinks that Tucker Carlson has the most influence over Trump staffing decisions." [02:46]
Ben Berquam: Explains that Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon have filled the void left by Rush Limbaugh, acting as primary narrative drivers for the MAGA movement. "Tucker's influence really is... he's telling a big story that only certain characters can be cast as." [03:19]
*Jack Posobiec and Stephen K. Bannon engage in a heated exchange, reflecting on the deteriorating media landscape and the perceived injustices against Trump and his supporters.
Stephen K. Bannon outlines his perspective on global instability, framing current events within the context of a nascent Third World War. Key geopolitical hotspots include:
Russia and Ukraine: The ongoing conflict in southern Russia and Ukraine is portrayed as a modern battleground reminiscent of World War II.
Middle East: Emphasizes strategic regions such as Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, highlighting the resurgence of the Ottoman Empire under Turkish leadership.
Far East: Discusses the rivalry between the Chinese Communist Party and the American Republic as the central conflict of the 21st century.
Bannon also introduces strategic appointments by President Trump, including ambassadors to Turkey and Greece, strengthening alliances in these critical regions.
Stephen K. Bannon: "Every day we frame it around... the kinetic part of the Third World War happening and being the center." [05:05]
Geopolitical Strategy: Bannon emphasizes the importance of controlling the narrative and mobilizing the War Room audience as "hoplites" in an information war, urging listeners to engage actively in spreading their viewpoints.
A significant portion of the episode focuses on the pivotal legislative fight in North Carolina, crucial for the upcoming presidential race.
Tim Moore, Speaker of the House in North Carolina: Discusses the critical vote on Senate Bill 382, aimed at enhancing election integrity by moving the board of elections under the state auditor’s control.
Stephen K. Bannon: Urges listeners to take action by contacting their Republican representatives to support the bill, highlighting its importance in preventing election fraud and ensuring fair outcomes.
Call to Action: Bannon provides specific instructions for listeners to support the Republican majority in North Carolina by overriding the Democratic governor's veto, emphasizing the state's influence on national politics.
The hosts and guest reporters from Real America's Voice discuss claims of a coordinated surge of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border, labeling it an invasion orchestrated by the Biden administration.
Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Berquam: Report witnessing multiple groups being flown into Matamoros and systematically moved across the border under the radar to evade media scrutiny.
Stephen K. Bannon: Condemns the administration’s handling of border security, calling for investigations into the orchestration of what he describes as a well-oiled machine facilitating mass deportations and illegal crossings.
Continued Surveillance Allegations: Bannon discusses ongoing surveillance and monitoring of Trump’s allies, hinting at deeper governmental overreach and manipulation.
Bannon and his co-hosts delve into the concept of information warfare, asserting that the media is a primary battleground in shaping public perception and political narratives.
Ben Berquam: Highlights Tucker Carlson’s role in constructing the MAGA narrative and Steve Bannon’s complementary influence, portraying them as central figures in the right-wing media landscape.
Information War Strategy: Bannon encourages listeners to engage with War Room content, share it, and become active participants in disseminating their messages to counteract mainstream media biases.
Critique of Mainstream Media: The hosts criticize networks like MSNBC and CNN for their portrayal of Trump as a dictator, asserting that these networks have lost credibility and their audiences are beginning to realize the alleged misinformation.
Bannon intertwines discussions about global conflicts with domestic financial issues, emphasizing the interconnectedness of geopolitical stability and economic policies.
National Debt and Deficits: Jack Posobiec addresses the looming national debt crisis, urging listeners to diversify their savings to protect against economic instability.
Reconciliation Bill and Tax Policies: The hosts debate the feasibility of reinstating Trump-era tax cuts while addressing deficits through corporate and wealthy taxation, critiquing Democratic strategies and policies that they argue burden the middle and working classes.
As the episode concludes, Bannon reiterates the importance of ongoing resistance against Democratic policies and the need for active participation from the War Room audience to influence political outcomes positively.
Bannon underscores the urgency of countering what he perceives as systemic threats to American sovereignty and advocates for continual vigilance and proactive efforts to support conservative initiatives.
Stephen K. Bannon: "It's an information war. And that end right there was an interesting piece." [05:05]
Ben Berquam: "Tucker Carlson's worldview... is telling a big story that only certain characters can be cast as." [03:19]
Tim Moore: "We need election integrity to improve that accountability... This is a bill that will get that done." [33:46]
Oscar Blue Ramirez: "It's treason and they know it." [49:39]
The episode centers on the ongoing political struggles post-2024 elections, highlighting controversial cabinet appointments and strategic maneuvers by President-elect Trump.
A significant focus is placed on the legislative battles in North Carolina, deemed crucial for election integrity and influencing the presidential race outcome.
The hosts express deep concerns over media influence, framing the battle as an information war, and emphasize the importance of active listener participation in shaping narratives.
Geopolitical tensions are analyzed through the lens of a potential Third World War, with strategic alliances and conflicts in regions like Russia, Ukraine, and the Middle East underscored.
Claims of a coordinated surge of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border are presented as orchestrated by the Biden administration, calling for investigations and policy reversals.
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the core discussions, insights, and viewpoints presented in Bannon's War Room Episode 4118, offering listeners a detailed overview of the episode's key themes and arguments.