Bannon’s War Room: Episode 4129 – "Trump 2028; Destroyers VS Reformers" Release Date: December 16, 2024
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Guests: Cleo Pascal, Colonel Grant Newsham

Introduction

In Episode 4129 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the pressing issues facing the United States as it approaches the 2028 presidential election. The episode, titled "Trump 2028; Destroyers VS Reformers," features insightful discussions with Cleo Pascal and Colonel Grant Newsham, focusing on national security, economic warfare, and the internal dynamics of political power.

War with the Chinese Communist Party (00:24 – 04:13)

Bannon opens the episode with a provocative statement:

"This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people." — Stephen K. Bannon [00:03]

He questions whether the United States is at war with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), initiating a deep dive into the complexities of U.S.-China relations. Bannon emphasizes his personal experience, being uniquely sanctioned by the CCP:

"I'm fully sanctioned. I'm the only civilian in the history of this country to be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party." — Bannon [00:41]

Key Points Discussed:

• Bannon's unique sanction by the CCP and its implications.
• The shift in public discourse from viewing the CCP versus the Chinese people to framing it as a direct conflict with the CCP.
• The marginalization of confrontational stances against the CCP within mainstream politics.

Historical Context of U.S.-China Relations (04:13 – 14:21)

Cleo Pascal provides historical evidence to support the notion of an ongoing war effort by the CCP:

"They talk about a people’s war that is Chinese Communist Party language for being at war. And those are official publications." — Cleo Pascal [04:37]

Key Points Discussed:

• The CCP’s comprehensive approach to warfare, encompassing economic, biological, and cyber warfare.
• Comparison to historical instances of state-sponsored aggression, such as the Soviet Union’s Pravda.
• The strategic erosion of the United States’ defenses by the CCP through multifaceted warfare tactics.

Colonel Grant Newsham expands on these points, detailing the kinetic and non-kinetic aspects of the CCP’s strategy:

"The kinetic part, the shooting, if it comes, that will actually be an afterthought. They've been at it for at least 30 years against us." — Colonel Grant Newsham [09:00]

Key Points Discussed:

• The long-term economic and psychological warfare waged by the CCP.
• The strategic use of fentanyl as a form of chemical warfare.
• Manipulation of the U.S. economy through the World Trade Organization and other economic coercion methods.

Economic Warfare and National Debt (14:21 – 19:49)

Bannon transitions to discussing the United States' economic challenges, particularly the burgeoning national debt:

"The face amount of the national debt would be $40 trillion. The interest payments are going to be at 1.2 to $1.5 trillion." — Bannon [17:30]

Key Points Discussed:

• The unsustainable growth of the U.S. national debt, projected to reach $40 trillion by the first anniversary of President Trump’s second term.
• The implications of rising interest payments on the national economy.
• Comparisons to international economic crises, such as the rapid downfall of Liz Truss’s government in the UK due to unsustainable fiscal policies.

Bannon underscores the urgency of addressing the debt crisis:

"This is the existential threat. As bad as the CCP is, as bad as the issues with artificial intelligence, as bad as the invasion on the southern border." — Bannon [18:30]

Creators vs. Destroyers in Trump’s Cabinet (19:49 – 29:00)

Jim Vanderhey discusses the dichotomy within President Trump’s cabinet between "Creators" and "Destroyers":

"Creators are the folks you're seeing named the economic jobs, the energy jobs, the AI jobs where they feel like they can juice economic growth... Destroyers are people brought in specifically because of their loyalty, partly to do retribution, partly to gut the very agency that they're being put in charge of." — Jim Vanderhey [17:30]

Key Points Discussed:

• Creators: Focused on economic growth, job creation, and leveraging technological advancements like AI to maintain U.S. dominance.
• Destroyers: Aim to dismantle existing administrative structures, often motivated by loyalty to Trump and a desire to restructure agencies for political gain.
• The internal conflicts and policy clashes between these two factions, impacting the coherence and effectiveness of the administration’s strategies.

Bannon elaborates on the concept of creative destruction within a capitalist framework, likening it to scientific paradigm shifts:

"In a capitalist system, you had what's called creative destruction. Creative destruction is just part of the process." — Bannon [19:00]

Domestic Policy and National Security (29:00 – End)

Bannon addresses critical domestic issues, including border security and the looming threat of a global monetary collapse:

"The fight isn't necessarily just Taiwan. The fight is cleaning up what's here." — Bannon [04:37]

Key Points Discussed:

• Southern Border Security: Strategies for mass deportations of criminals and securing the border against illegal immigration and criminal activities.
• National Debt Crisis: Emphasis on the immediate need to address the ballooning national debt to prevent economic collapse.
• Global Monetary System: Concerns over the potential collapse of the global monetary system, exacerbated by the U.S. debt crisis and BRICS nations' rising influence.
• Technological Warfare: The necessity of advancing military technology, focusing on drones and AI to maintain superiority over adversaries like China.

Bannon concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to support Trump's agenda to address these multifaceted threats:

"This revolution is going to come from the street. Ours is a peaceful revolution driven by populist, nationalist voters." — Bannon [19:50]

Notable Quotes

• Stephen K. Bannon [00:03]: "Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people."
• Cleo Pascal [04:37]: "They talk about a people’s war that is Chinese Communist Party language for being at war."
• Colonel Grant Newsham [09:00]: "They've been at it for at least 30 years against us."
• Jim Vanderhey [17:30]: "Creators are the folks... Destroyers are people brought in specifically because of their loyalty."
• Bannon [19:50]: "This revolution is going to come from the street. Ours is a peaceful revolution driven by populist, nationalist voters."

Conclusion

Episode 4129 of Bannon’s War Room presents a compelling narrative of the United States facing existential threats both from foreign adversaries like the Chinese Communist Party and internal economic mismanagement. Through in-depth discussions with Cleo Pascal and Colonel Grant Newsham, Bannon emphasizes the urgent need for strategic reforms and strong leadership to navigate these challenges. The episode serves as a rallying cry for populist and nationalist voters to support policies aimed at restoring national security, economic stability, and American sovereignty.

For more detailed insights and discussions, listeners are encouraged to tune into Episode 4129 of Bannon’s War Room on WarRoom.org.