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Episode 4135: Hard Pass On The CR And Mike Johnson
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Speaker A
It's garbage. I think that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge coming in, I can't. And yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars to be added to the deficit. And so it's ironic it's opposite what.
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Speaker B
The Doge Commission is trying to do. So am I voting for it? No, I'm not.
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Speaker C
We're just fundamentally unserious about spending. And as long as you got a blank check, you can't shrink government. If you can't shrink government, you can't live free.
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Speaker D
What could you tell us about this bill and does it disturb you? Some Republicans seem to be very critical of it.
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Speaker C
No, look, there's three of my great friends you just quoted there. They're not wrong about the government debt and deficits. It bothers us all. We've got it in our central focus. And when we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans are in control and Doge is on working on all six cylinders, we're going to be able to scale back the size and scope of government. But before we get to that point, remember right now we only control 1/2 of 1 third of the federal government. Remember, Democrats are still in charge of the Senate and the White House. So what we've done is the conservative play call here, my friends that you just interviewed there, or that those cliffs were played were part of this decision. We decided even though we don't normally like short term stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. Instead of doing, you know, Chuck Schumer and Biden spending for 2025, we pushed this decision into March, it'll be March 14th. So the feature there is, is that we'll have Republican controlled Congress and Trump back in the White House and we get to decide spending for 2025. So that was a good thing.
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Speaker B
So how did you use lose the Freedom Caucus and moderate members.
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Speaker C
This is the sausage making process. Okay, here's, here's what this bill entails. It's a short term funding extension until March 14th. And that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass. But here's what happened. We also had to add, due to circumstances outside of any of our control, emergency funding. We have two major emergencies. We had a record historic hurricane season that we all know, Helene and Milton and the rest, that destroyed a big swath of the country. We have to have funding for that. That's $100 billion to rebuild six states. And then on top of that, we have our farmers, our small farmers and ranchers, our food producers in this country are in jeopardy of going under permanently. They've had three loss years in a row, primarily because of Biden nomics and inflation and lots of other factors outside their control. So for the first time since I've been in Congress, guys, in eight years, it's not just farmers and ranchers urgently needing the help. We now have the creditors, the lenders, the banks who give them those loans, who are saying we have to have a stopgap measure. So when you add those things in, here's the other thing to remember. Our Democrat colleagues who have to vote on all this, they don't prioritize agriculture. They don't, they don't really care that much about farmers and ranchers because they're in rural red districts, right? But that's our food supply. If we crush domestic food supply, that is a direct threat to national security. We need all those small farmers and ranchers and that's included in the bill as well. So when you add all those things together, that's what makes people nervous, the.
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Speaker B
Price, you really don't have a choice. We have to fund those.
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Speaker C
We have to fund FEMA. We have to find our farmers.
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Speaker D
Right? And Mr. Speaker, and Mr. Speaker, it's not just so. You've got a bunch of Republicans who are angry at you. They don't like this. And just in a couple of weeks, you're going to stand once again to run for speaker of the House. And you don't need a bunch of Democrats mad at you. But you know, and this is breaking news, you do not know. You know who also does not like this? Elon Musk, the world's richest man just tweeted, this bill should not pass. The only way you're going to be able to pass it now, Mr. Speaker, is with Democrats. If you, if you could, what's your message to Elon Musk?
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Speaker C
Well, I was communicated with Elon last night. Elon and Vivek and I are on a text chain together and I was explaining to them the background of this. And Vivek and I talked last night about almost midnight and he said, look, I get it. He said, we understand you're in an impossible position. Everybody knows that. Remember guys, we still have just a razor thin margin of Republicans, so any bill has to have Democrat votes. They understand the situation. They said, it's not directed to you, Mr. Speaker, but we don't like the spending. I said, guess what, fellas? I don't either. We got to get this done. Because here's the key. By doing this, we are clearing the decks and we are setting up for Trump to come in roaring back with America first agenda. That's what we're going to run with gusto beginning January 3rd when we start the new Congress when Republicans again are in control and all of our fiscal conservative friends, I'm one of them, will be able to finally do the things that we have been wanting to do for the last couple of years. Right now Democrats still control pens and that's the problem. So we got to get this thing done so we don't have the shutdown, so we get the short term funding measure and we get to march where we can put our fingerprints on the spending. That's when the big changes start and we can't wait to get there.
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Speaker E
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.
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Speaker B
Medieval on these people. I got a free shot.
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Speaker E
All these networks lying about the people.
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Speaker B
The people have had a belly full of it.
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Speaker E
I know you don't like hearing that.
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Speaker B
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but.
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Speaker E
You'Re not going to stop it.
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Speaker B
It's going to happen.
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Speaker C
And where do people like that go.
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Speaker B
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Speaker E
Country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host Stephen K. Ban.
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Speaker B
It's Wednesday the 18th of December year of our Lord 2024 kicked off the 80th anniversary commemoration of of the Battle of the Bulge. I've asked Senator Tuberville's here this morning on a going to get into it but Senator Tuberville to think back, you know your father was you went over to Normandy for the first time to commemorate on the 80th there to think what those men did and accomplished and the women back here that we're working in the factories to accomplish and to see what we've allowed this country to deteriorate and we call this leadership. This is absolutely revolting what has happened here in the last 24 hours. You're just assessment of this town because the mentality here you have people they gave themselves a raise with everything going on in the economy for working class and middle class people and President Trump and all the fights we have to have going forward, all these tough fights, they gave themselves a raise and gave themselves the ability to opt out of Obamacare when they haven't done that for the nothing for the American people.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sir well, first of all, Steve, thanks for having me on. Merry Christmas. I woke up this morning about 4am, had to do a very early show. But I started thinking about my dad at 18 years old, and I don't know when he got wounded in the Battle of the Bulge. But this thing, I don't know how many days it last. I don't even know how long.
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Speaker B
Like three or four weeks.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time because Hunter.
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Speaker B
First took Bastogne and then had to be relieved by Patton.
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Stephen K. Bannon
By Patton. Well, my dad was driving a tank, so he's probably with Patton, but he. His tank was blown up and got torn up pretty good. But just thinking about that group that fought for the freedoms and the things that we have in this country, and if they could all look at what's going on today, they'd go, my God, you know, what did we fight for? We fought for freedom, and people have their opportunities to do whatever. But it's a sad situation. It really is. And I've been looking at the text of this bill. 1500 pages. It's supposed to be a CR, which basically takes the budget and goes and gives. President Trump.
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Speaker B
Should be a one or two liner.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. At most five pages or so. But it was 50 pages, just introductory. It took me forever to get through the introduction of the. Of a cr. They're calling it the Christmas Tree Bill now. But everything's in it. We could have done. And I feel terrible for the farmers. They're in bad shape. Terrible for the people in North Carolina. But they want to give 100 billion for disaster relief. I'm good with that, Steve, you know how much $100 billion is? I mean, you'd have to have 100 banks accounting for that money going in and out, who make sure people get the right money. The federal government can't do that. It's like, oh, we're sending 60 billion to Ukraine. Yeah, right. Five billion of it might get to the right spot. The other 55 goes in somebody's pocket. But it's out of control. We've all known that. And I was hoping President Trump would get off to a good start. But. But here, as you just said, everything in the world is in this bill. And the. Basically, if you look at it, the Democrats got about $10 for every $1 for the Republicans, and we've got control of the House. Go figure that out.
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Speaker B
I gave a speech on Sunday night in New York, and I said President Trump had been there last year and given the keynote speech, which he really kicked off his general, the primary in general, the amazing speech, and the people there pitched him on going to South Bronx and around New York City, when it was to really change the direction, the trajectory of the campaign and brought in working class Hispanics and African Americans to our cause. And I said, It's 400 days from that to the day he's inaugurated. But I said, if you look at, and I said, think of everything that was before us, then that had to be through human action. We had to. There was no guarantees. It all had to be done. I said, as I said on that stage, if you look 400 days in the future, it is the first anniversary of Trump's inauguration. So it'll be the end of his first year, which everybody says, when are you going to have? I said, if you do the math now and you go to the national debt clock, virtually regardless of what Vivek and Elon and the President do, we're going to have $40 trillion. I said, take any of the clocks that are out there, just put it in. We're going to have $40 trillion that day. We'll hit $40 trillion. And this country is very different because then you're at about a trillion and a half dollars of interest gross, you know, top interest payment. We have to get serious about this. We don't have time. We're burning daylight. And what is so wrong about this is the mentality and attitude about it that you can just kick here. We're just trying to. Look, we don't support short term CRS here because they always end up in trouble. We do support the concept of this because it kicks it into President Trump's administration with Russ Vogt and Scott Bessen and his economic team. And you give 60 days, so it's a 90 day bill. And yes, there's big problems in North Carolina, but I'm not so sure. No one's ever answered, is all the cash, is it just Biden and his regime that are not giving it? The farmers are in a horrible situation. But can they last another 30 days? This should be a one liner, right? And if it's got to be the farmers thing, just whatever the de minimis amount, we need that they bridge them till we get there. Otherwise what this thing does. You're not serious people. The problem is that that $40 trillion is going to be much more and we have so many tough fights and we have to be there. It can't all be on Trump's shoulders all the time. People in this city, particularly in the House, have to step up well, exactly right.
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Stephen K. Bannon
If you look at the farmers, for instance, you know, we're two years behind on the farm bill. The Democrats just, they just said to hell with it last year and said we're not going to do it. You know the Stabenow, she's going out from Michigan, so she was a chair. So we didn't do that. But if you look at where the money's come coming from, and it started at 30 billion, went down to 10, but the money is actually coming from the farm bill of the future. So it's money that's going to be spent anyway. But the problem is I got with the farm bill, it's going to be $1.5 trillion and 200 billion goes to the farmers in a five year period and 1.3 trillion goes to food stamps.
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Speaker B
Yes.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Now if we need to start cutting and you know that doge groups going to start looking at that. People got to go back to work. We need to take care of the elderly, the veterans, people with mental illnesses, but everybody else got to go back to work. We're not going to make it go back to work.
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Speaker B
And also that's all the process. The ones pushing that are all the food companies on the ultra processed food that the folks on welfare. We got to, if you're going to get healthy and get back to folks not having the burden on Medicaid and Medicare and all that, we got to get the country healthier. And the problem with the food stamps is not just the food stamps, it's the companies pushing that 1.2 trillion, it's all the ultra processed food. Now unfortunately, it's a lot of the food I like, but it's food product. But we got. Here's the thing, there's so many hard cuts that have to happen. Like you're talking about out of food stamps. Nobody's going to be cheerful about cutting food stamps. But you're right, you got to. They are hard decisions about putting food on the table for people or giving access to it that have to be made or we're just not going to be a country anymore. And here we have probably the easiest thing we have to do, just kick it to President Trump's term and you have a 1500 page. And what I really detest, we're going to get much into the nastier part of it after you take off is Johnson bald faced lie to people. He just stood up the other day and said this thing was short and tiny, which he told everybody, even some committee chairs. But just because of some natural Disasters. This thing, that 1500 as you go through it, there's some highly negotiated things in there with Democrats. I mean, Democrats have 10 to 1 and they gave themselves a pay raise and got themselves off of Obamacare. Do they think people are idiots today?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, you knew this was coming, that the American taxpayer was going to have to fund the money for that bridge. You knew that was coming.
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Speaker B
Yes.
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Stephen K. Bannon
They're not going to hold the insurance company accountable.
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Speaker B
No.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Next year.
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Speaker B
Although we do get the overages from the insurance company. Such a ridiculous they don't even treat you like an adult. We're going to get to the treasury, all the overtures from the insurance company.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And then, you know, the football stadium moving back to Washington, D.C. you know, we can't, we can't even manage cutting grass in the medians. You know, I think all the because.
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Speaker B
It looks like over, it looks like an overrun it looks like the late days of the Roman Empire with the grass.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're a third world country up here. No, I asked President Trump, take this place back over. This is the icon of the world. I mean, and you drive around and we got trees growing out of concrete.
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Speaker B
I know you got about. So I have a few more minutes with him on the other side. Okay. Senator Tuberville is kind enough to come in here today and calm me down because I was about to start screaming right at the back, he's my safety, my safety blanket.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Over Security blanket.
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Speaker B
He's my security blanket. And so honored to do this today on when your father was part of the tank that relieved Bastogne on the battle of Bulge, which was talk about a brutal thing. Okay. Short commercial break Senator Tommy Tuberville from the great state of Alabama joins us on a day that we're going to get into the details of this fiasco that was dropped on us yesterday. Back in a moment.
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Speaker E
Big victory on the 5th of November. Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country. One of the biggest is the national.
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Speaker B
Debt and the deficits that drive it.
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Speaker E
Hey, you think the country's broke? The country is broke. We're just printing money to keep this house of cards going.
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Speaker B
The strategy remains the same for you.
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Speaker E
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Speaker B
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
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Speaker B
Senator Tuberville is with us in what is ahead of us. Can you give the folks a like looking at it from the Senate? We've got, we got to get control of these budgets.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
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Speaker B
We got to get, we can't touch entitlements yet because I'm sure on the American people, we can manage what we've got. On the, on the discretionary, you've, you've got to make cuts, significant cuts. The Doge guys are all talking about it. You got the appropriations process. We have a lot of work to do, but you have to set the tempo. It's like you have to enforce your will on people. And I keep saying, victory begins victory. Move the chains, show directionally you're moving. This is once again, we got the situation on the Capitol Hill with the nominations and you've done an amazing job like you did an amazing job at the Pentagon last year. It just doesn't seem like they've bought into the fact that Trump not just won, but carried him across the goal line. But still in the city. The honest truth is most of the people in the House and almost everybody in the Senate except for you and a handful of others aren't really with Trump's program. They may step in front of a microphone and say enough that they have to, to move it down the road. So how do we change that?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, he's going to have to change the atmosphere and the attitude up here.
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Speaker B
Trump.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Trump is. And first of all, he's going to put everybody back to work. But that's all small potatoes there. You know, that's just a minuscule of the money we spend that in the next 20 minutes.
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Speaker B
You mean getting the federal government guys.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Back there back to work? Right. To me, he's got to start evaluating and have somebody evaluate all, all of these agencies. Why do we need Commerce? Why do we need, you're saying hold departments, Cabinet positions. Yeah, get all these departments and let's cut back on government. I mean, we're way Overblown. I had a great meeting with RFK Jr. I'd never met him. And he came in with a plan. He said, coach, this is what I want to do. I'm going to be the head coach, and I've got a good CDC director, NIH director, Medicare, Medicaid, and Dr. Oz, Surgeon General. We're going to work together. We're going to cut as much as we possibly can. It was breath of fresh air. Cash Patel, the same thing. Pete Hegses, the same thing. They're all in the small.
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Speaker B
See, the media. The media is not reporting that at all. They're all in trouble. So give us. Put us in the room when they come up. These guys are very organized because I know Cash and Pete and Bobby pretty well. They. They walk in and lay you through a plan. They're on offense when they come in.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Scott. Scott Bessett, I met with him in New York two months ago, even before the election. What a great guy. This guy's got a plan for our Treasury Department, Kevin Hassett. I mean, we have. We've got a chance here. We just got to make sure that when we go in, we don't do business as usual. We've got to cut 20, 30% of the fat out of each one of these departments, and then. And then that will get us off to a good start. But they got to help President Trump. He can't do it by himself.
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Speaker B
Can't. He can't burn. He can't. Everything can't be on his shoulders tonight. Today. As I was working overnight on the thing this morning, they said, well, President Trump's got to send some signals to this. I said, let's take care of business. We're grown men and women. Everything. We have to rely upon President Trump. He's got enough on his shoulders.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, yeah. I mean, he's going to be overwhelmed. And you know President Trump, he's going to try to do it all, but he can't do it all. He's got to have good people and loyal people that's going to tell him the truth about, you know, when they go in and look at the books and look at the things that are. That have been going on for four years, which, by the way, is. I can tell them that's total disaster. Not one thing is going in the right direction.
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Speaker B
Not one thing.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Everything's got to be reversed going in the right direction. We got to get people smiling again. And look what President Trump's done in just a month and a half.
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Speaker B
It just the animal spirit the animal.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Spirits and the press conferences. He'll start a 10 minute press conference and, and I'll come back, hour half later, still there and dropping bombs. And Joe Biden hadn't done that in four years. Combined.
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Speaker B
Combined. Combined.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, he.
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Speaker B
But no, when he goes to Notre Dame and it's like, I say, it's like Charlemagne showing up, right. They're all trying to get up there and touch him. All the guys that hate him over in New York, Macron and all this guy, all these tiny people.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So you think we're in trouble. Look at the leaders, these other countries, my gosh.
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Speaker B
But also we did this last night. France, Germany, Canada. These things are blowing up because of finance. They're blowing up because of deficits. In the bond market. In the bond market. I gave the speech that you got to focus on the bond market. That's the real money that's going to finance stuff. You can't mess around here. And we're messing around. Does the Senate have a better at least attitude of what's happening? You think that's even going to be worse?
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, I think, I think we're in a, we're in a good space. Of course, we've, we've got several that don't like President Trump and never have, you know that. And so we have to work through that. But hopefully they look at the end game of we got, hey, this will be our last chance. And I've told you this, we won't have another chance. We're going to go, we're either going to go all the way to the bottom and our kids and grandkids going to have to build it back up or we're going to save it right now and go north. That's it. But I was going to say what you was talking about, these leaders, look at the Canadas, the guy that's running against Trudeau. Yes.
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Speaker B
The populace.
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Stephen K. Bannon
He gave a great speech. Five minute speech. Unbelievable.
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Speaker B
We've got that poll. We're going to play later. Incredible. He just said what the average person in Canada is looking for, which is not a handout.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I said, that's Trump. That's Trump speaking.
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Speaker B
He's a populist.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Will they elect him?
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Speaker E
Yes.
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Speaker B
First of all, they're going to turf Trudeau out, I think, very shortly. Right. And what I liked is the minute the finance minister, who President Trump doesn't like, she's very tough. But she says something in her letter of resignation. She told Trudeau, she says President Trump's aggressive economic nationalism has to be taken seriously. From the American's point of view. And you're not, you're running these deficits. We got to keep our powder dry. I'm not going to be part of this. I'm quitting now. She's very cunning. She wants to replace him. But she said Trump means what he says. You know he means what he says and he's going to do it and you've got to start taking him seriously. I think this town has to do that, particularly about the cuts and about getting the financial house in order, which they're not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And people don't realize we can't do this without Europe. We can't do it because we have to have some allies. You know, we've got some that say they are, but they're not. So I'll ask you this question. What about, what about England? Can they be saved?
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Speaker B
It's going to be very tough. Nigel. I was with Nigel over the weekend and England outside the city of London is a third world country. I mean the manufacturing is gone, everything's gone. The only way they can be saved is Nigel take over the Tory party. And then they put with labor. It just, it's crapping sideways. Remember, they've already lost their government to economics Truss and really Richie Sunak got turfed out by the bond market and basically turned over the biggest in history. I want to go back to Europe. Mitch McConnell and this is back to your father, he says that Trump and Wharum and others that are the Trump America first movement. We're hearkening back to a dangerous isolationism of the same people used the name in the 1930s. If people had paid attention to those people in the 1930s to get people's act together, you wouldn't have had to go, you wouldn't have had to fight Hitler if you had taken care of it early with non kinetic means. But we didn't do that. And you ended up with your, Your dad was 18 years old when he went over. I mean dependent upon 18 year old kids to go over and fight a war machine like that. And I just think Mitch McConnell misses the point. You and I are both parents. I served for eight years. My daughter's West Point. I'm not, I'm not a dove. But this thing's out of control right now.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, and we start all the wars. People don't understand the CIA behind the scenes. We've tried to overthrow 70 different governments since World War II. We hadn't won a war but we create a lot of them and then we get in them we can't get out and it costs us a fortune. And look where it's got us for 36 trillion in debt. And if you go back and look at all of it, half of that debt is going to be from shipping either supplies or kids or young men and women over or giving money away.
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Speaker B
To they didn't put but Ukraine now we've been right on this from the beginning. You have a million Ukraine. This is President Trump's talk. He gave I was at Mar a Lago last week to Russ Votin, his guys. A million dead or wounded Ukrainians, 700,000 dead or wounded Russian soldiers and the country is destroyed. And now Blinken and these guys are asking for 500,000 18 year olds, people your dad's age to go to the front on a war that's not going to be won.
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Stephen K. Bannon
That's 2 million people. If you think back to you and I when we were growing up, we lost 50,000 in Vietnam. We thought that was in which it was, it was a complete disaster of losing that many. And they've lost 10 times that many. They'll never survive, you know, in our, in our lifetime, in many lifetimes because they don't, they won't have generations.
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Speaker B
Their birth rate has already fallen through the floor. So Guardian had this article the other day what on but they're going to push the big news when it first came out is the Ukraine. $25 billion for Ukraine wasn't in his. This is supposed to be a big win. You see it up there. They're still pushing Ukraine nonstop.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Oh yeah. In Syria, I think I told you last time my staff we've got up. We've given them 215 billion. The United States have and all the rest of the countries, including NATO all over the world, they've given 52 billion. Now that's what, 4 to 1 that we've given and pushed this war. There's something behind this. Now I'm starting to hear, well, you know, you know we're going to get money back because of minerals. Wait a minute, we're fighting. Yeah, minerals. I brought it up when this war first started with the media and I said listen, a lot of this has got to do with farmland and things like that. And they said, well listen to this local joker, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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Speaker B
It is about now they're pitching that as the upside.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Exactly. I like what President Trump said is a great farmland, but it's nothing to stop bullets except for bodies. And he's exactly right.
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Speaker B
100%. What are the folks in Alabama given this victory we had? If you had to go and talk to your constituents today, what's their attitude about where we are right now after the win and going forward, what should we do?
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Stephen K. Bannon
They're all on pins and needles, to be honest with you. Just waiting to see if he one person can't do this. This is going to have to be a group of people up there, a team of backbone, you know, and get a spine and understand that, hey, you might not like what you're doing, but you're going to have to make a tough vote sooner or later and we're all going to have to suffer. We've, we've lived high on the hog now for many, many years and now it's time. We're going to have to pay it back and there's going to have to be a lot of things cut. But we still live in a great country as long as we keep our freedoms and freedom of speech and give an opportunity to have fair elections. I hope we have some kind of election laws pulled up in the next year or so because we don't, you know what they're going to do. You know, it's going to be hard to keep any power.
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Speaker B
Let me. I'm not going to, I'm not going to have Senator Tuberville revere you too much to give your Twitter. Centuberville S E N Tuberville. That's your, that's your, that's your, that's your Twitter.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Your Twitter.
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Speaker B
That's your Twitter. Are you active on Twitter?
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Stephen K. Bannon
I know I do some, but I.
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Speaker B
See your interviews all the time. Last thing before you go, these Hexith, Bobby Kennedy and Cash, they come have been very impressive and they walk you through the plan.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hundred percent. And everybody says they have no experience. Wait a minute. Just because they're not lawyers doesn't mean they don't have experience. You got to be a damn lawyer up here to get a job. I mean, there's people that can do things that are not lawyers. And I tell you what, they have been really good. You know, Brook Rollins, the AG Secretary, Pam Bondi on top of it. But Cash Patel is going to be a key. Going to be a key.
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Speaker B
That's best. I want to say we'll figure it over the holidays or something. I want to spend more time about your dad and the Battle of Bulge. We always do specials over the Christmas holidays in the Bulge.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you. Thanks, Steve. God bless you. Thanks for what you do, Coach. We got a tough Time.
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Speaker B
Always an honor having you, sir.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're just now putting the gloves on.
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Speaker B
As long as we got a couple of guys like you, a couple of men and women like you, we're going to get through this thing. Thank you, Senator Tommy Toberville, Great state of Alabama. Short break. Thank you, sir. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Speaker E
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Speaker A
It's garbage. I think that it's. It's shameful that people that celebrate Doge coming in. I can't. And yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars to be added to the deficit. And so it's ironic it's opposite what.
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Speaker B
The dose commission is trying to do. So am I voting for it? No, I'm not.
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Speaker C
We're just fundamentally unserious about spending. And as long as you got a blank check, you can't shrink government. If you can't shrink government, you can't live free.
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Speaker D
What could you tell us about this bill? And does it disturb you? Some Republicans seem to be very critical of it.
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Speaker C
No, look, there's three of my great friends you just quoted there. They're not wrong about the government debt and deficits. It bothers us all. We've got it in our central focus. When we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans are in control and Doge is on working on all six cylinders, we're going to be able to scale back the size and scope of government. But before we get to that point, remember, right now we only control 1/2 of 1 third of the federal government.
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Speaker B
Stop Stop with the one half of the one third. Dude. Stop with the one half of the one third. Now that Senator Tuberville has left because I got to be on my best behavior on him. I respect this man so much. I can be a savage right now because this is so unacceptable on so many different levels. Just unacceptable. It is unacceptable because let's just leave the numbers aside for a second. We'll get to all that. And I got, maybe Richard Stern is going to join me. I got Natalie and walk through some of the math, but it's not even about the math right now. We have to be the party. What these folks who have low propensity, low information voters, remember that you guys went out and knocked on doors and, you know, Scott Pressler changed the mosaic, all of that, everything that you did over all the years, go back. I mean, day in and day out, the posse, the vanguard, the cadre, plus others, the pitch to African Americans, Hispanics, whites, people that have not. Asians, people who have not voted for us before, wanted to turn out all the Trump people and all of maga, some who were despondent, but turned them out. But news, we have to be the party of. Stop effing around. Stop effing around. This is serious. I gave this speech the other night and I couldn't develop it because at 11 o'clock at night, after people have had a couple of adult beverages and maybe not this time to give a reason thing, but here's the point. When we get to $40 trillion and we're adding a trillion dollars every day, every decision I say this over again, they're going to be hard, tough decisions, hard and tough. And some people maybe have depended on some stuff from government, are not going to have it anymore. And yes, the wealthy are. You going to have to bridge this gap. Tax is going to have to rise on the wealthy and the billionaires. That's going to happen. That's going to be an ugly fight. And yes, you got to get economic growth and you have to get the supply side. I got that. I can do the math and I can see how it comes together. But you got to start by an attitude that we're kind of in this. And here's what it is not what just happened. This is more of the same. And let me say this, he's a pathological liar. He stood up. We get that thing from yesterday, get that cut. He said, you know, this was really thin, it was short, it was just a couple of pages until, you know, a few days ago, he said a Few days ago when you know, these natural disasters included. This thing's 1500 pages long and it's highly negotiated and The Democrats got $10 for every $1 of things. It shouldn't be any dollars in the emergency fema. Until we can show that there's no cash in there, it's not a problem of total cash amount right now. It's a problem that the Biden regime has purposely not gotten people and we haven't had enough hammer and you got to get to President Trump doing on day one. I'm not saying we don't need more. You need to retool fema. But does it actually have to happen today or what's the diminished amount? Because this is like a bridge loan to a company. This is a bridge the farmers, I understand the farmers up against it. And maybe you need the 10 billion there. I don't know. I assume that you can still go and look, I know they're pushing off their creditors and it's hard because you haven't had one, haven't had a farm bill in two years. But even there, if it can be done just to bridge it, to get into. Because the whole purpose of this, to get some President Trump's team, particularly Doge and get their hands around this. But this fantasy he's sitting there, we got to wait to. No, you're a liar. You understand what the process here. I've said this over and over again and dude, you're the professional. I'm just some guy screaming at a microphone and I understand it quite well. The appropriations process and to get DOGE in with omb. But you have to do it now. You can't put all this stuff in there. And particularly how do you have the gall with everything's going on and the lived experience of the working class and the middle class of this country. They're running up $1.4 trillion of credit card debt. And I think, I don't know, 10% or 20% is non performing. And even the ones that performing these kids are getting buried more and more and more back at credit cards at an APR of I don't know, 25%. How can you give yourself as a raise? Have you guys done a job that you deserve and said well, no more good people are going to come in Congress. I don't know that. I know tons of good. First of all, I know a ton of good people. Great people that 175,000 bucks a year, not bad those people. I won Congress. I've said this over and over again. I had the opportunity when I came out of the Navy, which was I was a naval officer and a very elite destroyer. First in his class, first ship in his class. The reality in the Spartan's class had an elite wardroom of all brigade commanders from, you know, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Villanova, all the big ROTC programs and the Naval Academy. And then to go back to the Pentagon and then to go to Georgetown, the national security and then to go to Harvard and then to go to Goldman Sachs. I've been in the room with the best of the best in whatever their segments are. And I say this all the time. If you gave me the choice of being governed by the top hundred partners at Goldman Sachs or a combination of McKinsey, Booz Allen and Goldman Sachs and throw in corporate America or the first hundred people that walked in at any Trump rally with a red ball cap on, I'll take that hundred every day of the week. So when you sit there and go with $179,000, you can't get their excuses, you can't get any good people. And by the way, there's all kind of pockets out there that you get your expense. But you say you can't get any more good people. Hey, guess what? There are plenty of people in this country making 52,000 bucks. The average salary in this country, 52,000 bucks a year that would come here and set things right. How did you have the gall and to put it in. And if you were going to do it, you got to go up front and say, by the way, I'm putting this CR and it's 1500 pages and here's what we did and here's what I did. And don't sit behind a thing as a gutless little coward, Polly pockets and sit there and just mislead people. Just a bald face lie. So she's so Christian. How about the Christians just grab one of the Ten Commandments, Thou shall not lie. This is a lie. And then to add in a pay increase and opt out of Obamacare and you don't even put that that's in bold face. And the first thing you should have done is, hey, I'm going to tell you something. We're going to give ourselves a pay increase and we're going to opt out of Obamacare. Do that as your preamble. Don't make people go into the document. 1500 pages. You know this audience, the vanguard, the posse. We hate CRS, anything, even short term 30. We hate them. We hate the 72 hour ones. We were Prepared to do this just to kick it into President Trump because Russ vote wants and President Trump wants and they want and the Doge guys, it all kind of comes together and even then they got to rush for 60 days because it's just going to be to March. So it's 90 days. 90 days goes by like that. And what do we have here? It's not serious. And to sit there and say that, well, you know, these people are going to come in and then we're going to serious. Are you stopped? Just treat us like adults. Stop with the moronic talking down to people. Because that's talking down to people. You think this audience is dumb? They're not dumb. They know everything about this bill now because overnight they're picking through it and I see it up, you know, Grace and people show me on social media to pick through the thing. Why? They know it's, they know it's vitally important. They know it's vitally important. So you have to, you have to understand that this is a hard no. And when Elon put this thing out, when Elon put this thing out last night, that I think this should not pass or this should not pass. And I did. I did. Hey, this is a hard pass. I should have said this motion should be the motion to vacate. It should be the motion to vacate. That's what it should be. Because now you're going to set up a fight in early January and he's got to be turfed out. He's got to be turfed out over this. This is a hard no. And anybody, anybody that votes for this, for whatever reason, even the emergency measures in the agriculture, you can't vote for this just for those two things. And there should be a demand immediately of what's happening over the Agriculture Department for any cashes over there and for FEMA and demanded these guys know exactly where the money's going and then going to have to tell people. And if there's some de minimalist amount, a couple of bane or something, you get out immediately and bridge people for 30 days, then maybe that is what is done. But other than that should be one or two lines. All this other stuff has got to go. It has to go. What has to happen in 20, 25, 400 days from the night, that's nothing. Basically, President Trump, we're five weeks away from his inauguration, his third victory, his second term, okay. And the one year anniversary. And everything's got to get done in the first year in all likelihood, because by that time they're going to be ganged up on you and the media's going to be ganged up on you. And the deportation's got, and the deportation's got to be started. You got to end the wars. But particularly I keep saying this, the third part of that, because the bond market could turn, could turf, could turf everybody out of here. And the bond market's been jiggy the last couple of weeks because of what Biden's doing and what, and what Powell's doing and what Yellen's doing. They're already setting up structural issues for President Trump at the get go. And Powell cannot today do another rate cut. The bond market is going to determine a lot of the success of President Trump's second term. It's obvious. That's how this thing's financed. And 400 days from today, we're at $40 trillion, ladies and gentlemen, it's 100 trillion. I said this is a trillion dollars every hundred days. That's a runaway train that's going to run over Vivek and it's going to run over Elon. It's going to run over a lot more people than that. Because now you get the law of large numbers. The thing is like metastasizing and nobody, it's. And you do this, this cr, which is the simplest, easiest thing we will do from the day President Trump won and saved the House and won the Senate, this great, historic, sweeping victory that for years you worked on this audience. This is the most important thing that's happened. This cr. This is simple. This is easy. This is not a jump shot. This is a layup. And the system revealed itself. That system has to be shattered. It has to be broken. It has to be shattered. That's pure cartel. Washington cartel. They're all getting paid off and you lied about it. They've been working on this for weeks and weeks and weeks. You can tell by the document. If you haven't had a chance to do it, get it up on your screen, just flip through it. It's a highly negotiated legal contract. It can't go on. It cannot continue. One, this is a hard no, but even deeper than that, it's like you.
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Speaker G
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Speaker C
Bannon Democrats are still in charge of the Senate and the White House. So what we've done is the conservative play call here, my friends that you just interviewed there or that those clips were played were part of this decision. We decided even though we don't normally like short term stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. Instead of doing, you know, Chuck Schumer and Biden spending for 2025, we pushed this decision into March. It'll be March 14th. So the feature there is that we'll have Republican controlled Congress and Trump back in the White House and we get to decide spending for 2025. So that was a good thing.
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Speaker B
So how did you use lose the Freedom Caucus and the moderate members?
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Speaker C
This is the sausage making process. Okay, here's, here's what this bill entails. It's a short term funding extension until March 14th. And that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass. But here's what happened. We also had to add, due to circumstances outside of any of our control, emergency funding. We have two major emergencies. We had a record historic hurricane season that we all know, Helene and Milton and the rest that destroyed.
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Speaker B
Okay, okay.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yes.
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Speaker B
But we don't know if it's $100 billion that needs to be done right now that, you know, let's see the math show people. We're not debating that the folks in North Carolina and other folks down in Florida got to get the relief. We got that. But I'm not sold on the fact that it was like when they came in with Syria years ago. Oh, the chemical weapons. Oh, yeah. Really? Show me some evidence. I come from an evidence base. This is why we've been running the pandemic, running the JCS committee. Right. On all of it. We asked actually look at evidence of facts. You just use that crutch and you just throw it out there. Oh, it's $100 billion let's just do that because we can pass it. We have to do it, but let's find out diminutives, this a bridge just to get us 30 days, 60 days, get into President Trump's. So President Trump's running the deal, but certainly your attitude and mentality is not the attitude and mentality that is going to get us there. This reminds me now more than ever, I need everybody in the audience to do this because we got to get you up to speed because good God, if it's not for you, this thing may be done. I mean that, because guess what we're going to have to do here. We need some, you know, the metaphorical wet work. We got to man the ramparts, got to light people up today. You cannot under any circumstances vote for this bill. And you got to tell them flat out, I would. If you vote for a pay raise for yourself, you vote for someone that's buried in their pay raise and you vote for a opt out of Obamacare. And I can't. You're going to do that and I ain't getting a raise. I don't care what you're going to get turfed out of here. You're never going back to Congress. That's the attitude you got to take. Now, this is why Birch gold. Hey, I'm just saying it's $40 trillion 400 days from now, as sure as the turning of the earth. And we're never going to pay off a penny of that face amount of that debt. Not one penny will we ever pay off. Because, folks, not the net payment, but the gross payment interest is going to be, I don't know, 1.2, 1.3, $1.4 trillion all in. Or Steve, isn't that a little high? Hey, I haven't been wrong yet. And the trillion dollars every hundred days, don't buy gifts for the kids. Don't buy gifts for the grandkids and your grandkids and your children sitting around the tree if you allow this to happen. We're just burning it all down. They say, oh, abandon all you guys do. Your hair is on fire. Burn it. No. This audience, no, we want to save it. Yes. It's got to be purged and reformed. And look at this thing up here. It's so corrupt and so incompetent, so gutless. Why didn't you demand? Why didn't you guys demand when he wouldn't show you the thing? Why didn't you go in and kick down the door and say, look, we're running up here in the 20s, you're not going to play any games. You're not going to give us something and then look like a fool because you all look like fools. You can't blame on Johnson. He's got to go. He's got to go. And people are sitting there where President Trump supports him. Well, hey, President Trump supports him until he doesn't support him. President Trump supports him until he doesn't support him. If somebody's got to show some leadership here, then, hey, I'll take it. I'll take that one. You know, in the Navy you don't volunteer, but you got to do it. You got to do it. Somebody's got to do this. Birchgold.com/bandit. One thing, this one I'm so proud I'm check today because I've been running around doing so much stuff behind the scenes that to make sure that the end of the dollar empires at the monetary. Modern monetary theory, it gives you the. It's the idea you can tell how, how they think. They just think they can print this stuff forever. Oh, and if you get in a situation that's a downturn or bad, you can just raise taxes. Well, that's not that easy, folks. We're going to see that later. Do you understand the. Well, I know you do. I keep saying that I'm talking to them because they're going to see the clips. This is what happens when you don't take care of business when, when, when people up here are supposed to be fiduciaries and you don't take care of business when you can take care of it. It's like with the rise of Hitler, It's a perfect example. When you don't take care of business, when you can take care of business. Like you said, when things start to metastasize because of scale, they take on a different. You know, Stalin used to say this quantity has a quality all its own. Quantity has a quality all its own. When you're 40 trillion and adding a trillion dollars every hundred days because you haven't gotten here this and people and you don't have economic growth, real growth, you get all this phony growth and more Wall street speculation because the Tap is on six and a half or $7 trillion a year of that, you're just printing money, literally just printing money most of the time just to cover it. It's irreversible. I've said this in the concept of the three converging things. The kinetic war, which is bad enough of the third world war, the 1510, 12 to 15 million people in this country that are not citizens that gotta go. Those are massive tasks that other generations would suck up an entire generation. That ain't even the hard stuff. The hard stuff is the middle is the finances, because here it may. That may be irreversible. Scott Besson, Scott Besson. That guy runs around his hair on fire. He says, hey, this is the last time you have a chance to do. Do some cuts, do something smart to still do a supply side, which means on the production side. And then we get this. Today, you're the serious or you're not. This audience is serious. We'll go the ramparts in this. And hey, guess what, everybody? Anybody that even thinks of voting for this got to be turfed out. I don't want to hear your excuse. There are no excuses. And Johnson's a disgrace. And the people in his leadership are disgraced. Jordan and Scalise, where you guys been? Why do we have to hear this? We got dropped. It's so bad. You should have said, hey, we can't keep this from people. And why did none of you guys walk to the microphone and say, look, I want you to go to page 900 on the 15th and see our pay raise. Give me a profile of courage, man. I don't even know if we need the book of revelations today, right? Incredible. After that great victory, this is the first big act you do. Tells me everything I need to know about you. You've shown me right there. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Speaker E
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