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Episode 4167: Will Johnson Remain Speaker
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Stephen K. Bannon
Its leader, the other party votes for.
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Chris Hayes
Its leader and you win outright and.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Then you become the speaker.
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Chris Hayes
It usually works that way, Chris. But I would never expect anything to go quite so smoothly in this House Republican Conference, especially with, with the margins this narrow, even smaller margins in the last two years and Republicans really struggle to govern. And remember, getting elected speaker is going to be the easy part for Mike Johnson. What comes next is going to be much tougher. They've got another March 14 deadline to fund the government. They're going to need to cut a deal with Democrats there. They have a mid year, somet in the middle of the year, a deadline to extend the debt limit, which is something that Republicans hate to do. And at the same time they have to juggle, you know, confirming Trump's nominees through the Senate and pass major party line bills on immigration, on energy, on tax cuts, extending the Trump tax cuts, all with this tiny majority that Chris, it's going to grow even smaller. Matt Gates is not going to take a seat tomorrow. That's 219. Michael Waltz and Elise Stefanik are leaving to join the Trump administration. That means a 217 to 215 margin in the crucial early months of Trump's presidency. That is a vote margin. A single defection means a bill cannot pass with Democratic votes.
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Gabe Amo
Well, look, they're making demands. And passed as prologue shows their right to do that, especially in a world of these razor thin margins. They should ask because they know that the speaker is hemmed in anyway. And so 99% of the members that I've been speaking to and who will go to the Capitol today to vote for the speaker believe that Johnson should be fine. But they also know that there's a permission structure for chaos as predicated by two years ago, the last time we did this, only with Kevin McCarthy, McCarthy at the helm and not Mike Johnson. So there is an incentive structure for being a holdout. But I think, and Congressman Gabe Amo and I were having this conversation on way too early. We will see a lot just by the way that this process actually goes. Because they vote alphabetically, you know that when you get to M, you're going to lose one. That is the only one that Johnson actually can lose. But we're going to see members like Burchette at B, Crane at sea. And if any of them vote present, that means that the number is no longer 218 for Johnson. It lowers the threshold. If they vote no, then you know that the entire round is moot and that Johnson's not going to get it. On that balloting round. Hakeem Jeffries, of course, will stay at the 215 hard votes that he has in his corner because Democrats have shown consistency and their willingness to go along with leadership as a united front. But Republicans, the Alphabet's actually going to be quite instructive here, and we'll see. Do they let him twist in the wind for a round or two? Do they instead just get this whole thing over with? Because the prevailing view at the end of the day is that no one else can get to 218. But that's the conventional wisdom until it's not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Does he have the votes?
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Jim Jordan
I think so. I mean, obviously Thomas Massey's indicated he's not going to support Mike, but Mike's a. Mike's a good man, a man of character, a man of integrity. What I said this one when I seconded his nomination in front of the conference, I said, you know, hard work doesn't guarantee success, but it sure improves your chances. And Mike Johnson has worked his tail off as our speaker. I hope he gets reelected today. I think he will. And the second thing, I think the main reason here is, look, on November 5th, the American people said, secure the border, bring down prices, bring down crime, and stop the weaponization of government against we the people. The best way to get that done is to come together today, unite behind Speaker Johnson and start working with President Trump to accomplish what the people told us to do. So I hope that's what happens today. And I think, I think that is. I think it will.
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Natalie Winters
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Medieval on these people. I got a free shot.
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Natalie Winters
All these networks lying about the people.
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Stephen K. Bannon
The people have had a belly full of it.
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Natalie Winters
I know you don't like hearing that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
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Chris Hayes
You'Re not going to stop it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Natalie Winters
Ask yourself, what is my task and.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Jim Jordan
War Room.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Friday the 3rd of January in the year of Lord 20, 20, 25. I know a lot of people, you know, you rang out the New Year and had all of your major resolutions for the new year starting. Was it Tuesday night and Wednesday. But this for political process is really the change of the Guard. This is the first part of the 118th Congress. And the 118th Congress ought to be very near and dear to your hearts, this audience, because this audience, for the first time in the history of the Republic, you removed a Speaker of the House, a sitting speaker of the House. That was Kevin McCarthy kicked into the dustbin of history. In fact, his efforts to involve himself in elections on the revenge tour against Matt Gaetz failed. So he's now off in Silicon Valley working with the tech bros on doing something with artificial intelligence. And of course, if you had to have somebody leading thinking about investments in artificial intelligence, the first pick on your list would be Kevin McCarthy. He'd be a top draft pick, right? He did get his revenge on eventually on Gates because they leaked the, the ethics report. Gates was never charged the cert. You know, the Justice Department walked away, the FBI walked away, but he got it leaked. Matt Gaetz has just tweeted that Johnson's going to be approved in the first round today for the 119th. He's not, he's. Matt did not show up. For whatever reason, Matt did not show up. I guess he got his new gig as a, as a, got a talk show out in California, in San Diego with the herrings and One America News. Great folks over there. But let's talk about what. There's a lot of tactics and a lot of things going on, people behind the scenes and things going. Let's pull the camera back and talk about, particularly for this audience, because you're going to be once again called upon to be quite active in this effort. Probably not today. And I'm not saying today's pro forma. I think a lot of issues will come up and behind the scenes they've come up like, what is the purpose? What are we doing? What is this all about? Well, we know that this country is radically off track. We are a post constitutional country. We have really only hang on to this constitutional republic that was bequeathed to us for many, many generations who sacrifice, either died in combat or through tough work and tough labor, passes down to us a very precious gift, a constitutional republic, and also the sacred trust of American citizenship. And that has been the whole, the whole country. The sovereignty of the country, the sovereignty of the citizens, sovereign will of the people has been abused. It's just been abused. It's the reason that Donald Trump could come out of nowhere, literally nowhere politically. You never had a figure like President Trump kind of come out of media or the business community. He was mocked and ridiculed. You know, Came out of nowhere, won the 2016 primary to the shock of the Republican Party because go back they had like 15, 16, 17 each vertical. Whether it's a libertarian with Rand Paul, whether it was the establishment with Jeb Bush, whether it was the neocon with Marco Rubio, whether it was the constitutional conservative of Ted Cruz. Pick them all. Ben Carson. You had every different element, had their candidate and from the Kochs to all the interest groups, the conservatives groups. A billion dollars had gone into the promotion of what that meant right of in that vertical. The nomenclature and the ideas and how they connected together for that vertical and they had all the support. And President Trump cut through that like a sith through grass right in 16. In fact, Chris Hayes played the other night from my old radio show Breitbart News Daily of which was really a caller show. I would have guests, you know, a couple of guests. It was a three hour show in the morning six to nine on Sirius XM caller driven. And back in March of 2016, Chris Hayes had the. I was on the radio and I had a guest. That guest was Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller had just come off of just Sessions staff where he kind of was. Sessions was the intellectual architect of the anti amnesty movement, the anti really open borders movement then that was infested in Congress. We had beaten it back a little bit in 2014, 2013 and 2014 with a young unknown congressman named Dave Brat, which a young woman named Julia Hahn who is a producer for Laura Ingraham and of course the team at Breitbart were able to win a primary against a sitting majority leader. First time in American history. You'll hear that a lot. First time in American history. First time in American history. Time in American history. Now how did all this happen? Because as folks become aware, right of the true situation, of how the not just the tech oligarchs and the lords of easy money, but how the corporatist system works in this country. And remember, we're all limited government capitalists. Or at least that's what you've been sold through the Republican Party and Fox News. You're limited government capitalist patriotism. But that is not really. That is what's sold to you, that's not what is delivered to you. And anytime you can sit there and explain to the American people and show them the information what reality is, you get a Dave Brat. That beats an Eric cantor. He was McLaughlin who's the president's, one of the President's pollsters had Dave Brat down 40 points the night before the June 2014 primary Dave Bratt, I think, won by 12 points. Dave Brattle raised the total amount of money that Eric Cantor spent on one dinner with lobbyists and donors. In the, in the official report, I think Dave raised 125,000 bucks total. He won because of a grassroots revolt. President Trump in March of 16. I'm on the radio and guess what? I'm talking to Stephen Miller about H1B visas. What are we talking about? After this came right after the, the Super Tuesday, which took place in March, President Trump kind of ran the tables and it looked like he was on a roll to win the Republican nomination against all odds. And they were in little, they were in meltdown. Karl Rove convened a group of these, I think it was 54 donors of some resort off of South Carolina. And they were going to go down and put all this money in, in a Stop Trump movement. This is when the infamous is right around the time and I think this came out right before Super Tuesday, the infamous never Trump cover of the National Review that had all the, you know, the conservative superstars, the influencers of that time, influencers. A little different business today. And we'll talk about that here, about what's going to happen today. But they got together, we talked about H1B visas, how they wanted to do it. President Trump was adamantly against HB1 visas. I explained to Stephen Miller, Steven Miller explained to me how you had these waves of kind of immigration, but now they had a system set up. They had actually rigged a system. And this is why Natalie and I over the last couple of days have been talking about there is no legal immigration. That's a fallback. Now, what we have now is a crisis because we have 12 million of which they admit 12 million to 15 million, which I think is the real number. But 12 million that just came in on Biden's watch. This is nobody previous, just on Biden's watch. 12 to 15 million illegal aliens here to crush the cost of unskilled labor and to add a little more to gdp. Because whatever they don't send home, they spend on Doritos or they spend on just basically scraping by and trying to live hand to mouth here in the United States to the detriment of African Americans and Hispanic citizens. And this is one of the reasons people started coming to President Trump because they look in their cities and they see these huge problems, destruction of the education system, the health care system and crime and all that. And they say, hey, I don't want that. I didn't vote for that. If Democrats do, I won't vote for it, I won't support it. But then you get to the legal aspects of when you see it's no real legal immigration, it's all gamed. It's all gamed against American citizens. American citizens. And so what we're sitting here today and it's regardless whether it's Mike Johnson or Tom Emmers are or Jim Jordan. You heard Jim Jordan at the end, he didn't want it. It's about what's the task and purpose of the House. We just saw what Johnson and Jim Jordan said. He worked his tail off. He's worked his tail off. Well, we love rewarding effort. We're a big believer in work. As you know, you worked very hard here just being a part of the war. In posse, you're always read this. He's saying read this, do this, call this, go out there and do this. Use your agency, use your agency, use your agency. And it's manifested in tremendous ways, huge ways. But Johnson was the guy that just, I don't know, a couple weeks ago dropped a bomb on us. A 1500 page bill that added hundreds of billions of dollars with no offsets to already 4 or 500, 400 or $500 billion that was going to be in the CR, which you know, we hate CRS. So you're talking about, I don't know, 7, 50, $800 billion of spending. And he had worked his tail off with Hakeem Jeffries. He had. There may be no alternative. President Trump may be whipping for Speaker Johnson. And maybe it's all because we don't want Jamie Raskin to screw up things on Monday and to get President Trump certified. That may be the case. But we have to talk about the task and purpose of all this. Where exactly are we headed? Not what the potholes. What are going to be the unforced errors of the Trump movement, of President Trump. That's all very clear right in front of us. Short break, back in a moment. I got American babe.
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Natalie Winters
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, so behind the scenes has been any number of deals that have tried to cut both structurally about process and about policy. So those three things get those out in front of you as you think about this. Both structural issues about how the joint is run, process issues about how the joint is run, and then policies about exactly what we're trying to accomplish. You just heard Jim Jordan sitting there going, we know we're going to close the border and we're going to get crime down and get defense up and, you know, stop the weaponization of government. All the things that you fought for and many others. I think just from a tactical point of view and here's how our coverage is going to go today. They're calling the 118th and if we, as soon as they get on the floor, if we can, if Denver can just put the box up, don't take my, you know, particularly since I cleaned up this morning, don't take my lovely visage away, but just put a box when you get down because they're supposed to be coming to the floor, I think they're called and they're supposed to wander in about, I don't know, 11, 11:30. This is the end of the 118th Congress. They're going to go and they'll be there for a few minutes. I think they'll call to recess and then they'll officially end, I think at 11:55. So the historic 118th Congress. And it was historic, if for nothing more than citizens finally stood up that had voted for a party and worked their tail off in the 22 midterm and were betrayed. And President Trump reinforced our, what the actions we took. He reinforced the other day. He said Kevin McCarthy cut the dumbest deal that's ever been cut in the history of Congress and he was therefore removed. That was the two year uncapped debt ceiling of which he led Biden run up, I don't know, five or six trillion dollars and got us deeper into the hole. That debt Ceiling, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, just went back into effect yesterday. So we're now back in this. And this is why they've started working on emergency measures or whatever it is to make sure cash is coming in, can get paid. We have let's go back to the three lines of work and the three lines of work of President Trump in his second term, the crisis that is before us. And it leads into what the confirmation is going to be. So this will all be of a peace. And when the 119th Congress comes in today at noon, five minutes after the end of the historic 118th Congress, I believe even a more historic 119th Congress will convene. And the first order of business will be the selection of a speaker. And that's why we're here today. And we'll be covering that throughout the day here on Rural America's Voice in the War Room. Now, because of the thin majorities and also because of people like Matt Gaetz has resigned and Matt's, I don't think, showing up today. And a couple of people have been, you know, Stefanik and Waltz and others have been taken out to the, to the administration. As soon as they're sworn in or as soon as Waltz raises his hand on the 20th, they come out. It's going to be tight. Eventually, you're not going to be able to lose a vote today. You can only use one vote in Massie. And by the way, Massie's brain, he's from mit. As you know, we're not huge fans all the time and particularly he's never been a supporter of. But I think it's deeper than just President Trump. It's about spending. Now, a lot of these negotiations behind the scenes and process were to do a couple things. Number one, to appease the House Freedom Caucus or what is more, the conservative people, particularly the people of budget hawks. It was to put Chip Roy in as a head of the Rules Committee because as you've learned here now in the war room, because we show you the receipts and you learn process. And a lot of this is about process, because process actually leads to what the policy is and to the ultimate outcome. So heretofore a lot of people say, well, that's too boring. But you understand, because you've used your agency and you now have power and they fear you, you've had to know how this works. So the Rules Committee, as you now know, controls kind of the floor of the House. And the rules is basically where the bills kind of get cut up and Repurposed and you know, what exactly are you voting on? The Rules Committee is quite powerful. In the great fight of 2023, two years ago, basically today, remember we went round after round after round and those were structural changes. What were those changes? To get more conservatives on the Rules Committee to make sure that you could only have vacate the chair with one vote to basically have 12 appropriations bill. So you actually see all the appropriations bills because that's where the money really gets allocated, what's going to be spent and you can see what is being spent on. And you remember this audience that stayed up all night, I think it was in the summer of 2022, I believe the first time that we hit it, 2022 stayed up all night. And that summer, night after night, and you got to see. And it was amazing because I would stay up with you and I would really watch the comments. And what I was amazed about was the perceptive comments from just everyday Americans watching this process. And you saw your betrayal. Every night you would see Burchett or MTG or you know, one of the hawks get in there and they would have a fire breathing thing about why, you know, CISA should be not funded. And then you'd have David Joyce, one of these moderates would get up there and say, oh no, this is terrific. This is not even the Democrats. The Democrats are throwing too. You know, particularly the weird, you know, Adams family Democrats would be up there all night, look like, where do these people come from? You got them from a, you know, Plan nine from outer space extras. But you saw the portrayal in Living Color right there. And you saw the way the sausage is made. Because when you talk about these key terms of drain the swamp and all this, you've got to get down to it that in the biggest and most powerful economy in history that depends upon federal spending and massive federal spending, you have massive vested interest. You have the capital markets of Wall street, you have this engine of growth out in Silicon Valley, the sociopathic tech overlords. But then you have the corporate, corporate America in every different aspect. The insurance industry, the banking industry, the chicken farmers, all of it. And everybody's got lobbyists, everybody's got people there advocating your point. And who do you have for you? Well, you've got Trump and you got the war room, you got a handful of other people. But what we did was able to expose that. And you see it in living color. And what did it do and empowered you more and, and more and more. Did we win every fight? We did not. Did we win enough yes, we did. We haven't come close to solving the problem and hence our partner's conversation today. In going forward, it looks like Johnson is going to be the. He's the least offensive and there is no alternative. The deals that they've tried to make are not to look at a Jordan who is people. A nice guy doesn't have the support, doesn't even have the support. A lot of the conservatives, because they don't think he's got a staff that actually can bring and do what you need to do to be the House. And this been one of the big complaints about Johnson. First there were too many McCarthy guys and then there were too many people that would say one thing when Johnson wanted to do another. So there's been mass confusion, a lot of mass confusion over that 1500 page bill, which I just say that to me is the marker of Johnson. That is how he thinks. He thinks he can sit there and go to Trump and go to the UFC fights and, you know, hang out at the box at the Naval Academy West Point game and never bring it up and just drop this thing and, oh, you know, and say, well, you know, we have, you know, we have divided government and this is just what happens. And when you have really Hakeem Jeffries bill, which is just unacceptable. So they tried to cut things with Chip Roy as rules committee and the moderates and others said, absolutely no way. We can't live with that. Just more of the mad men, the crazies taking control of the actual thing that gives you power, kind of the whip hand. And they said, no, we won't do that. So that looks like it's off the table. Then they also went in with certain just issues on spending. Hey, there have to be offsets. There have to be, you know, we can't do these, you know, what is this? The debt ceiling and these massive deficits. The people empowered us to come here to get control of the madness. And with three lines of work, you've got, you've got to stop the beginning phase of the Third World War, the kinetic part, because we're into the Third World War. But now you've got the kinetic part of it and President Trump's got to stop that. We've got to figure out, we can't fund Ukraine. You got all these issues, then you've got the border and you've got the, you've got the, you've got, you know, mass deportations of 15 million people. And how's that going to work? And now you've got all this stuff on the HB1 visas, we realize the whole thing is rigged and people trying to push to get expansion of that, that's all got to be stopped. So you got that whole thing, which is the sovereignty, and then in the middle you got probably the thing itself. And that is this issue that we're essentially bankrupt. We are. When I say bankrupt, I mean totally total revenues that come in. Think of your business, think of yourself. Total revenues that come in versus total outlays that you put out. And now we have a gap, and that gap is big. That gap is about a trillion dollars a year. Trillion and a half, 2 trillion. They always say it' this number. And it always comes to the higher number, Right? Why is that? Well, it always comes back the same thing. The revenues come in short and the expenses are high. If you run a business or you run your own life, that happens in life. Hey, guess what? It didn't materialize what I thought I was going to get as a salary or a bonus, right? Or my sales. I didn't hit my sales. I didn't get my commissions. I came in short. Oh, and guess what? You know, Sally needed to go to the dentist or, you know, Bobby needed something for some traveling team, and we had to pay for that or all the expenses that come up and needed a new set of tires, right? So you had these gaps. But here, because we have the greatest export in the world that everybody needs, the US Dollar, the United States dollar, we can continue to have. We got this magic machine, it's called the Federal Reserve, and they just keep kind of printing money, right, with the Treasury Department. We just kind of make up bonds and they buy them, we pretend they're bonds, and they pretend they give us money. And the gap in the world takes that because the world needs dollars and we're the prime reserve currency. And every transaction's got to go and got to be converted into that. So the world's got to suck on it. And the purchase price value of the dollar keeps going down. And you get these kind of ornery, you know, the natives are restless because the brics nations are sitting there going, hey, guys, that thing you give us, these dollars, they keep depreciating in. Like under Biden, it's 25% less than, you know, we kind of signed on for. How's that work? And maybe we, you know, maybe we talk to the guys at Birchgold and maybe we come up with an alternative currency, some basket of currencies. Maybe we take a stable country like India or China or some wild thing like that. And we take the risk on the, on this currency. But if you keep doing that, we got to do it. And so as we're here on the eve of a massive transition, one of the biggest transitions in American history, the return of President Trump, historic return to the imperial capital. Today we get down to the business of what that's going to mean. In all likelihood, it's going to be Johnson. There's a whole bunch of things we want to do. If Boebert votes against him, if they vote president, it changes the math. Then there'll be all kind of scrutiny. But it looks like it will be Johnson and it looks like Johnson is called, is called their bluffs on a certain couple of very powerful things, the Rules Committee and also spending and everything else. But we're going to talk about what that's going to mean and what that's going to mean for the War and Posse. We'll return in a moment. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, for, for those out there in the audience, particularly in live chats that are slightly disappointed with what the outcome may be today, bear in mind, folks, the way we keep winning is you got to pick your fights. You have to pick your fights when you have maximum leverage. You have to picture fights that are, can get the outcomes you're trying to drive. So let's go back to the outcomes. The outcomes. We know we have to get the financial situation sorted. We know we have to not get drawn into these third world wars, but we have to try to put them to an end without American involvement. And we know that we have to take care of, first of all, the illegal aliens are here, which is a massive effort, a monumental effort, a herculean effort to get them out of the country. Right. And also now to stop the gangs and to address the fact that American workers and American citizens are being destroyed by a legal immigration system that's not legal at all. And that didn't even talk to the issues with the deep state and the administrative state to make sure that this is not done again in the investigations, all that. So we got to move down. And as you know, this audience knows, Johnson is not our first pick. But what are the alternatives? Well, right now there are no, there's, to be brutally frank, there's just no alternatives. Nobody. Emmers and Jordan, who were the only two that even had staffs that could be prepared to do this, because the job is quite complicated given the fact of what we're going to talk about here in a second, to actually move A legislative package forward. President Trump has the ability to do the executive orders. He will do executive orders. I expect anticipate a flurry of executive orders coming through. Although let's be blunt, the Senate is not exactly working in conjunction with President Trump to push his nominees forward as quickly as possible. Let's go back in time. What have I advocated? I'm a big advocate of flood the zone. In other words, you come in in a concentrated mash and so overwhelm your opposition with so many different things that you can drive and push your program forward. My recommendation from the beginning is that yes, they would convene today on the third, right. They would get a speaker or fight through the weekend for a speaker and then on Monday show up and have the and certify President Trump as the 47th president of the United States. And the next day on the 7th, you would start the hearings and you'd start the hearings with five at the committees. And you drive it, drive it, drive it. That's not going to happen. Now there's a host of reasons why it's not going to happen. Some of the things the guys weren't done. Others they had these kind of historic by custom and tradition procedures they do like we got to get it 28 days in advance and we have to review it and the FBI has to do it. And remember I fought don't get the FBI involved. Do it, do it on a, don't let the deep state drive the process here. Do it on your own. And you've seen the horrible situation with the FBI over the last couple of days. Another joke race should be terminated immediately. Cash should be start to be confirmed next week and be there on the afternoon of the 20th. That's not going to happen. I think the confirmation just to take you back through the schedule. So the 118th Congress will wind down today before 12 noon the 119th Congress will pick up and the first order of business for any of the business done is they will select a speaker. Now you would anticipate it. We'd go 15 rounds and somebody would pop up and an emers or who's not exactly a Trump guy. Right. In fact, if he had been less anti Trump, there would probably have been a big movement because he does have a staff as the whip that is fairly sophisticated. But he's never really been a Trump guy, although people I think like the cut of his jib never been really a Trump guy. And Jim Jordan doesn't want it, just doesn't want it came out right there, worked his tail off. He's supporting Johnson. They went to, people approached. Jordan doesn't want it. So there you there. Now you're limited to what it is. But anyway, you pick the speaker. Tomorrow they have a conference. And tomorrow is really where a lot of the work is going to get done. They're going to have a conference, I think, at Fort McNair. We're going to discuss this in detail tomorrow on the Saturday show live and at the conference. Something's going to happen. Now, I want you to get your number two pencil out and write this down, because this is signal, not noise, reconciliation. Now, what am I talking about? It's kind of a gimmick. It's something in the structure and procedures of things is how you can actually get a. It's all to avoid the filibuster in the Senate. It's all to how do you not have to get 60 votes in the Senate, but you can do a reconciliation. Biden used it, we use it in the first Trump term. It's a device that's used to make sure you can get away from the Senate. It's filibuster. So if you've got a majority, you can get your stuff done. Here we have actual two reconciliations. Just the way it works off a budgeting process, you have the ability to do two reconciliations in one fiscal year, which is pretty extraordinary. Doesn't happen all the time, but we've got it now. So tomorrow they're going to discuss, you know, the path forward. So if Johnson's in or Emmers wins the day, or Jordan tomorrow, they're going to have this conference all day, nine in the morning to five in the afternoon, they're going to go through the whole legislative agenda. Now, we have talked from the very beginning that working away, beavering away, beavering away, beavering away, that since the CR was going to be quite simple, just a couple pages long, you should be spending time on the target date of the afternoon of the 20th of January and the 21st that you needed a reconciliation bill ready to go. So when President Trump takes the oath of office, goes to the parade, stands on the stand, sees everybody, goes by, walks into the Oval Office, he actually has something there besides signing, you know, 50 executive orders that undoes everything Biden did on the border and reverse it back to what we did in 2017 with Stephen Miller right there with the pen, bang, bang, bang. Sign it, sign it, sign it. Now it's actual. You can go effectuate because the president has ordered it, not a law, but for the term of his presidency is an executive order. Then at the same time, you would put a reconciliation bill, and that reconciliation bill would be 100% focused on immigration. It'd be focused on the border and the wall in the deportations and everything else. We could get in there about these visas and shutting it all down and making sure that we would make America great again. He would do that. Oh, by the way, maybe you throw in some energy and even to make it more palatable, and I know you hate this, but throw in a couple toys, you're throwing a few things for defense. So it'd be immigration. It would be immigration. It would be energy. Right? Because we got to get that. Remember, the key to the Trump economy is full spectrum energy dominance. We got to get back that. So be energy. Give Bergam these guys something to start. You know, firing off the football and throwing a little defense then. And so after. So after Saturday, you come agree to that. You come back, you certify Trump on Jamie Raskin's pulling all his things. But you certified Trump on January 6th, the anniversary of the January 6th of the folks, you know, this demonstration that kind of went awry. And the FBI, instead of hunting down radical jihadis and all this, or send the FBI. Oh, it's homegrown. Well, dude, it's homegrown. It's homegrown off radical, radical jihadi guys, the imams. That's how these guys get radicalized. They say it's not an immigration problem. It's damn right it's an immigration problem. You're letting radicals in your country that are turning former soldiers into radicals. But you get the certification, right? On Monday, get certification, and then you're supposed to go right into the confirmation or sometimes the confirmation. No, now you're going to have an air pocket all the way down to, I don't know, Thursday the 16th, Friday the 17th, we're going to start having some confirmations at the committee level. These are not. They have not been voted on. So therefore, it means on the afternoon of the 20th, at least as it looks now, and I could be wrong. I don't know if you're going to get a secretary. I don't know if Pete Hegseth, are you going to have Bondi, you're gonna have Scott Besant. The president's gonna show up, at least as I see it right now. And I could be wrong by a couple hours. Maybe they've updated it because you gotta go to the committee. First the committee has to vote, and then it's gotta go to the floor. The Democrats are gonna have something to say about this and you're not gonna have it looks like now all of a sudden I'm hearing that in the same time that Mar A Lago and the President are whipping for Johnson. And that's fine. If Johnson's your guy, you own Johnson. But is Johnson the guy that can take us through precision engineering? Because we're about to hit turbulence like we've never hit before as President Trump tries to implement this plan. It's not that the established order, the rhinos and the opposition, the Democrats are just going to sit there and go, man, we were waiting for Trump to arrive. Isn't this great? Yeah, Trump's fantastic. We love all these things, particularly these big cuts in spending. We love that. And you know, tax increases for the wealthy, for our wealthy donors. We love that. And we're just gonna be great. We just embrace this. You know, you're gonna deport 15 million people who we see as future voters or the Republican Chamber of Commerce see them as consumers in low cost labor. They're just gonna be hugging Trump and saying, this is amazing. Why didn't we think of this? We're so glad you arrived. We're so glad you came back to save us. You think that's gonna happen? Let's say it's not. So Mike Johnson's your guy, so you own Johnson. But not just that, I think. And the reality is there were no. Because these guys were asking, well, hold on. If we got to take Johnson, let's have Chip Roy as Roy. Now, I can't do Chip Roy as rules because he's anti Trump. He's out for himself. He's too thing the rules are going to be too tough. He's too much of a fiscal hawk. Can't do that. Fine, can't do that. But then let's get some guarantees. How about we have offsets when he come with this budget stuff. If you're going to have any increases, got to be offsets. If you're going to do this and we got to have deficit neutral, we got to do all this. My understanding is nothing. No, we're not going to do any of that. Okay, Okie dokie. What about the first reconciliation? I guess we're going to do that because that's going to be delivered to President Trump on the 20th. Well, no, now we understand. No, what we got to do is one reconciliation. So you're going to put both together. 1. The second one is going to be taxes. Taxes revenues and the appropriations going to Kind of prove it all in one big ugly thing, right? But it was going to have separated from that. Separated from that was going to be the border, immigration, energy. So we could get a clear boom shot of that right out of the gate. Get muzzle velocity, and let's get on. Give me 50 executive orders. We're flooding the zone. I'm feeling good. Things are getting accomplished. People are starting to go home. Nope. Now, I think it's like one reconciliation. Well, you know, the reconciliation, that's kind of a fancy term and it's kind of gimmick, and people's heads are hurting. It's like too much already. Bannon. It feels like an omnibus. In fact, it kind of feels like, oh, I got it. The Warren posse and Bannon and all these guys have been yelling for years about, you got to get. You got to send them home. The open borders. Got to get rid of them, got to send them home. We got to do it first thing. And we're going to need some money. So we're going to need, like, a record. We're going to need a bill to go with the executive orders, because executive orders in an executive order, you can't create money in the executive branch. Remember, in the separation of powers in the Constitution, only the legislative branch, and particularly only the House, because our founders said that's like the House of Commons. So only the House can generate revenue, can approve revenue, and they can also approve taxes and revenues coming in. They also approve spending. All of that is in the House. That's one of the powers of the House. It's there. And every two years, you can throw these bums out if you don't like them. So now it looks like, hey, maybe it's an omnibus now. And I am not a cynical person. People know that. I'm not cynical. But it seems to me that with Johnson, this whole thing is that we're heading down to Anonymous, where they put the old gun to the head of the hardliners, and they say, at some time, I don't know, let's pick a random date, March or April. And they come with another massive Senate bill and another huge deficit, and we need a waiver on the debt limit, and you got to agree to all this. And, oh, yeah, and the tax cuts, well, somehow we didn't come up. We miss. Where is that? Oh, yeah, we forgot to put in that tax cut for Social Security for the troops. But we did get cut. Not a tax cuts for the wealthy. And if you want your deportations, if you want your money for the Border wall. If you want all that, your guns to your head and you got to prove the whole thing, let's just have a partners discussion up front. Let's just talk about what we're trying to accomplish and how we're going to try to accomplish and let's expose those people that are not trying to accomplish it, like the radical Democrats, the corporatists, the Lords of Easy. You got the Lords of Easy Money on Wall Street. You got the sociopathic techno feudalists out in Silicon Valley. You have the corporatists that are every day selling us out to the Chinese Communist Party for higher margins. We understand who those guys are and we understand what their interest is. Okay, but let's just lay it all out on the table of exactly how we're trying to accomplish this. Folks, we're in a jam. This country's in a crisis. This is a crisis. There's no easy solutions. I've said this for years. Every year we've kicked the can down the road. You narrow your alternatives. There ain't no easy solution. And guess what? There's no hide the football short break. Birch Gold. End of the dollar Empire. Modern monetary theory get up to speed. Back in a moment. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, Birch Gold. It's important, important for you to understand the modern monetary theory because this is going to come up in, in high relief here in the next couple of weeks. There's going to be this wish to wish this away. It can't be wished away. It's now at such a scale, it's kind of the law of large numbers. It's so big, these deficits in this, you know, it's still, every 100 days another trillion dollars. You're going to see this in, this budget is going to come on because here's what they're going to try to do. And as you know, we'll be at the forefront of this. They're going to try to say, well, we're getting, we're giving you three and a half trillion dollars of cuts. And you say, okay, can I see those three and a half trillion dollars of cuts? And guess what? They all appear in years six, seven, eight, because it's all done in 10 years. And I've told people, hey, I don't have any interest in 10 years. I just don't. What I have interest is, is in years one and two. Show me years one and two. Let's, when we get over the hurdle of one and two, I can buy into this is like when I was an investment banker. I don't need to see your 10 year projections. I need to see the latest 12 months because that's going to show me what history shows and then the 12 months going forward. And let's keep it very simple. Let's just do sources of revenues, you know, sources of proceeds and use of proceeds. Like where did your cash come from and where is it going to. Just keep it simple. We'll keep it very simple. And that's what you're going to have to see in this. Like give me the, give me the next 12 months or we're actually in a fiscal year. Tell me about this fiscal year. Where are you cutting and where this cut is going to come from? Is it going to come from defense? Is it going to come from the. Just a random. Is going to come from the rocket program that Elon Musk is out doing a financing at a $388 billion valuation. $388 billion valuation. Where you just did one at 44 billion and then you just did one at 4 billion when he first started. So you went from $4 billion to $44 billion to $380 billion. Gosh. I guess that has a pretty aggressive plan in there from the Pentagon. Maybe that is what Doge comes in and takes a look at. But I'd like to see that. I'd like to see where the cuts are. Doge is promised $2 trillion a year. I don't know, because the language isn't very precise. Is that over 10 years? Is it year one? It's all these. The AI, the artificial intelligence is going to help us. Where is all that going to come from? That is where this audience is going to get down into the nitty gritty. If there was an alternative and President Trump had come up with an alternative today, there would be a fight and speaker and Johnson would not be speaker of that. There's no doubt. There is a hunger and a thirst in there to get somebody else. There just is. As much as you want somebody else, there is a big effort. And we had Sparks on the other day for a reason to have her go through her list. And she's never really been at the forefront of these budget fights. And that's where we had her on, because she's put out a whole list of things and saying, hey, he hasn't shown me. So we'll see where her vote goes. If she votes no, then it's guess what, go back to another round. Because Massie's a hard no and you can only get One vote, but right now. And just to reiterate this, that Emmers is not put his hat in the ring and has shown no interest. He would have it if handed to him. And his staff is probably the most sophisticated. But hey, he ain't no Trump guy. Just not right. He's not. And then you got Jordan, who's as close to it, and Jordan has gone out of his way to kind of say, I don't want it, and people just saying his staff is not ready for it. So that's where you are there. No one else has really kind of put together, you know, the Byron Donalds of the world. And that kind of next tier of people have not put any effort to here to really make a case to President Trump or anyone else that they're prepared to do it. And so we are where we are. But even deeper than that is where does this go? And we're going to hit at a velocity of things that are just going to happen. And that's why this show's so important and this audience is so important. We have to look with total and complete clarity of the critical path of the process in front of us and what we have to kind of juggle and keep the eye on the ball. If you want to make America great again, if you want to stop the forever wars, stop the insane spending, deport people, close the border and seal it. If basically you want to stop, the theory of their case is to invade everyone and invite everyone. If you want to stop that and at the same time not bury yourself. Because now financing the debt is going to be its own problem. And that's why you can't pay your credit cards at the end of the month. If we want to do this, we have to have maniacal, maniacal focus on not simply the things that matter, but where your agency, in a collective basis, adds huge, huge, massive leverage, that's going to come sooner than you can realize. Because right now, and I continue to reiterate this, President Trump is coming into Washington D.C. that is not that different. Not that it's different in degree, but not in kind. Different in degree, but not in kind from when President Lincoln arrived in Washington, D.C. in the spring of 1861, after winning the 1860 election. It is a hostile environment there. The Southerners in the Senate, but particularly in Buchanan's administration, had stacked the agencies of government, the government itself, with many Southern sympathizers, with many people who believed in the rebellion, who believed in Southern independence. And Lincoln had a massive problem when he first got there, of Getting his hands actually on control of what then was an apparatus that pales in comparison today. This administrative state is actively hostile to President Trump. One of his key things is to deconstruct the administrative state. That's a fancy term for doge or for getting rid of the regulations, going after the bureaucrats, stopping the de weapon. All types of terms that go around that central thesis. And also the same time, destroy the deep state of which I've said also that's why we got to get cash like approved now. Pam Bondi approved now. John Ratcliffe approved now. The CIA is a big part of this problem. The FBI is a central part of this problem. The DOJ is a central part of this problem. You must seize the institutions. You must seize it immediately. There is not, I think, a recognition that that is reality. So with all of this going on in the House going to be at the tip of this with the Senate still being kind of the step back McConnell, let's try to block the Trump agenda as much as possible. Regardless of the Josh Hawleys you have, regardless of people out there that say I support the Trump program and I'll try to move it apart, the powers that be. And you see this with Thune being approved. It's an anti Trump, anti maga. We'll wait these guys out. The whole purpose is to wait us out to try to destroy Trump and Trumpism. But the worst case they want to do is just wait it out. So you have to then reorient and get muzzle velocity. Now how are we going to do this? Steve, you know what? You're going to have to wait through a commercial break. How's that sound? Natalie Winters is going to join us. I'm going to have a few more pearls of wisdom, by the way. That's pretty unique. I never really take an hour and just go through things, but it's time for a partisan discussion. Got to be very serious about this. If you want to take your country back, if you want to make America great again. I didn't say it was going to be easy, folks. It's not easy. It's going to be quite brutal. There are going to be a lot of hurt feelings. There's going to be a lot of things said that people years from now are going to wish they could take back. Just is what's going to happen that's in front of us. That's the reality you're trying to turn around and save the greatest country in mankind's history from where it's devolved to because of actions of interest groups. That's a fight. I love the odds here. We're long MAGA and long America and long American citizens. We got quite a fight on our hands. Short break. Back in a moment. 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