Episode 4175: Mainstream Fear Their Loss Of Narrative Surrounding J6

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4175: Mainstream Fear Their Loss Of Narrative Surrounding J6

Release Date: January 7, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Participants:

• Vice President Kamala Harris
• Matt Boyle
• Jason Trenor
• Stephen K. Bannon
• Tom Fitton
• Erik Prince

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Introduction

Episode 4175 of Bannon’s War Room delves into the shifting narratives surrounding the events of January 6, 2021 (J6) and how mainstream media fears losing control over this pivotal moment in American history. The discussion features Vice President Kamala Harris, Matt Boyle, Jason Trenor, and other key figures, offering a comprehensive analysis of the current political climate, media influence, and the ongoing battle over the J6 narrative.

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Main Discussion Topics

1. Certification of the 2024 Election Results

   • Vice President Harris opens the discussion by contrasting the peaceful certification process of the 2024 elections with the chaos of January 6, 2021. She emphasizes the resilience of American democracy.
     • Quote: “[...] America's democracy is only as strong is our willingness to fight for it [...]" ([00:00] MM:SS)

2. Public Perception of January 6th

   • Matt Boyle and Jason Trenor discuss the minimal public support for J6-related narratives, highlighting that only a small percentage of Republicans and the general populace prioritize the events of that day.
     • Quote: “I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to dismiss it without much of an issue.” ([01:27] MM:SS)

3. Moral Clarity and Historical Significance

   • Jason Trenor asserts the need for moral clarity in remembering J6 as a significant atrocity, comparing it to historical events like World War II and the Holocaust.
     • Quote: “January 6th was an atrocity. It was one of the worst moments in American history.” ([02:40] MM:SS)

4. Media’s Role in Shaping the Narrative

   • The panel criticizes mainstream media for attempting to rewrite the history of J6 despite ample evidence. They argue that media efforts have been largely unsuccessful due to the abundance of video evidence.
     • Quote: “It's just crazy to me that the effort to Rewrite the history of January 6th has been as successful as it has been...” ([02:40] MM:SS)

5. Donald Trump’s Influence and Electoral Support

   • Vice President Harris discusses how Donald Trump's enduring support base influenced the willingness of elected officials to overlook his actions related to J6.
     • Quote: “Most Americans are not okay with January 6th. [...] but there's a piece of that Donald Trump base that really loves it.” ([04:04] MM:SS)

6. Establishment Media vs. Conservative Media

   • Matt Boyle highlights the failure of mainstream media to engage the broader public on significant issues like J6, creating an opening for conservative outlets like Breitbart to fill the void.
     • Quote: “We're the mainstream media, right? We're stepping up and covering the things that people care about...” ([17:01] MM:SS)

7. Judicial Watch and Calls for Special Counsel

   • Tom Fitton and Erik Prince discuss the need for an independent investigation into J6 and the 2020 election, advocating for the appointment of a special prosecutor to ensure impartiality.
     • Quote: “If I were President Trump, I would appoint a special counsel directly.” ([35:12] MM:SS)

8. Globalist vs. Populist Nationalism

   • The conversation touches on the clash between globalist policies and Trump’s populist nationalism, with references to trade agreements and economic policies that have disadvantaged the American middle class.
     • Quote: “China joining the WTO was wound up being a massive wealth transfer from the American middle class to the Chinese middle class.” ([23:11] MM:SS)

9. Media Expansion and Strategic Moves

   • Matt Boyle outlines Breitbart’s strategic expansion into political reporting and White House correspondence to counteract the establishment media’s narrative.
     • Quote: “We're storming into Washington. We're going to take this swamp by force here.” ([47:35] MM:SS)

10. Military and Foreign Policy Concerns

    • Erik Prince addresses recent military incidents, including the U.S. Navy shooting down its own F18 aircraft, questioning the administration’s competence in handling military operations.
      • Quote: “The U.S. navy has shot down its own aircraft while they were on final approach.” ([29:23] MM:SS)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Vice President Kamala Harris:

  • “[...] America's democracy is only as strong is our willingness to fight for it [...]” ([00:00])
  • “[...] January 6th was an atrocity. It was one of the worst moments in American history.” ([02:40])
  • “Most Americans are not okay with January 6th.” ([04:04])

• Jason Trenor:

  • “We need to never forget, because past becomes prologue if you forget any race.” ([02:21])
  • “[...] To put it bluntly, an insult to every cop that was injured that day [...]” ([04:56])

• Matt Boyle:

  • “We're the mainstream media, right? We're stepping up and covering the things that people care about...” ([17:01])
  • “[...] We're storming into Washington. We're going to take this swamp by force here.” ([47:35])

• Tom Fitton:

  • “Well, I think people can glean from it the idea that China joining the WTO was wound up being a massive wealth transfer from the American middle class to the Chinese middle class.” ([23:11])

• Erik Prince:

  • “If I were President Trump, I would appoint a special counsel directly.” ([35:12])
  • “The U.S. navy has shot down its own aircraft while they were on final approach.” ([29:23])

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Insights and Analysis

• Fragmented Media Landscape: The episode underscores the fragmented nature of the media landscape, highlighting how establishment media outlets are losing touch with the general public's concerns, particularly regarding J6. This gap has provided an opportunity for conservative media like Breitbart to amplify alternative narratives.

• Resilience of Democratic Institutions: Despite the tumultuous events of J6, Vice President Harris emphasizes the strength and resilience of American democracy, suggesting that the certification of the 2024 election results is a testament to this resilience.

• Call for Independent Investigations: There is a strong push from participants like Tom Fitton and Erik Prince for independent investigations into J6 and the 2020 election, arguing that current institutions are compromised and biased.

• Economic Nationalism vs. Globalism: The discussion contrasts Trump’s economic nationalism with previous globalist policies, asserting that past trade agreements have disadvantaged the American middle class while benefiting global elites.

• Military Credibility Issues: Concerns are raised about the current administration’s handling of military operations, citing incidents where U.S. forces have mistakenly engaged friendly aircraft, reflecting broader questions about leadership and strategic competence.

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Conclusions

Episode 4175 of Bannon’s War Room presents a critical examination of how mainstream media is losing influence over significant political narratives, particularly those surrounding January 6th. The panel argues that this loss of narrative control is beneficial for conservative movements seeking to reframe historical events and challenge established media biases. Calls for independent investigations and a return to economic nationalism are recurrent themes, highlighting a desire for systemic change in both media and political institutions. The episode concludes with a reinforcement of the need for strategic media expansion and the maintenance of a strong, informed supporter base to navigate the ongoing political battles.

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Note: This summary is based on a provided transcript and aims to present an accurate representation of the podcast's content. It excludes promotional segments and focuses solely on the substantive discussions and key points raised by the participants.

Transcript

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

I did what I have done my entire career, which is take seriously the oath that I have taken many times to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which included today performing my constitutional duties to ensure that the people of America, the voters of America, will have their votes counted, that those votes matter, and that they will determine then the outcome of an election. I do believe very strongly that America's democracy is only as strong is our willingness to fight for it, Every single person, their willingness to fight for and respect the importance of our democracy. Otherwise, it is very fragile and it will not be able to withstand moments of crisis. And today, America's democracy stood. Vice President Harris after the certification of the 2024 election results, pointing out the stark contrast between y and what took place four years ago yesterday when a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in an effort to block what is usually a mundane certification process. Take a look here. All right, January 6th is the biggest memory of Trump's first term. Look at this.

[Matt Boyle]

Wow.

[Jason Trenor]

It's just fine.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

That is. That is something.

[Matt Boyle]

It's just 5%.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to. To dismiss it without much of an issue. And among Republicans, what do we see? It was just 2%. So even though you had that significant chunk of Republicans who said, we oppose it, even though the vast majority of Americans opposed it, the bottom line, when it came to November, even when it comes now, most Americans, simply put, manu are not thinking about it.

[Jason Trenor]

I think we need to find moral clarity, you know, in this country. And I just remember after January 6th, you had someone like Mitch McConnell placing the blame on January 6th where it belonged squarely on Don Shoulders. And then you started seeing people backtrack that and not. And losing their moral center. You had Condoleezza Rice, I believe, on this very show, saying, you know, we need to move on from January 6th. I say, no, you don't move on, because January 6th was an atrocity. It was one of the worst moments in American history.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

And when you.

[Jason Trenor]

When you think about the worst moments in American history, you know, like World War II, things that happened, you know, like the Holocaust, chattel slavery. We need to never forget, because past becomes prologue if you forget any race.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

And I would say one thing about rewriting of history that's so crazy is this was all on video. You can see the rioters beat the police and drag people down the steps and use the American flag to assault people. You can hear them chant hang Mike Pence. So, you know, it's just crazy to me that the effort to Rewrite the history of January 6th has been as successful as it has been when you do have literally so much video of exactly what happened that day for anybody who wants to see it to see. If you woke up on January 7th of 2021 with the glass still shattered on the floor of the Capitol and the smoke rising and the troops are surrounding the building, and you had said that Donald Trump will be president in four years, nobody would have believed that. Anybody who says that today is not telling you the truth, we wouldn't. We 100% sure he was going to make it out two more weeks.

[Jason Trenor]

Broadly speaking, it turned out that his.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Electorate still wanted him and that held power over the elected officials who didn't. And that's the real story here, is that they were not, they did not find what he did on January 6 to be disqualifying and therefore the Congress and the elected officials went along with it. John January 7, 2020-21, there were certainly not a majority of Americans that would think Donald Trump would retake the White House, but he is about to. Does that tell us that Americans as.

[Jason Trenor]

A whole are okay with what happened.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Four years ago today? So, number one, absolutely not. I don't think that that tells us that the majority of Americans are okay with January 6th. What I think it tells us is that a lot of Americans who voted for Donald Trump, a lot of Americans who are not alright with January 6th do not prioritize that over some of the other things that Donald Trump is offering. Certainly part of his base is happy with January 6th. You can tell because Donald Trump has exalted the people who are convicted of crimes on January of the January six crimes as patriots, as people who have been treated poorly by their government rather than prosecuted for crimes. So there's absolutely a piece of that Donald Trump base that really loves it. But there's also a set of voters who voted for Donald Trump who a do not think that's appropriate, but also do not prioritize it.

[Jason Trenor]

And just to this is January 6th from that day forward. And pretending that this is no longer what today means is, to put it bluntly, an insult to every cop that was injured that day, every terrified congressional staffer and member, every Capitol worker who had to clean up the feces the Trump mob smeared on the walls. And to every decent notion anyone ever had about this country, it's also a lie. It's a lie most Republicans and even some of the media want to tell you because it makes Republicans feel better. And apparently making Republicans feel better is really Important, since while their elected officials hid in terror with every single Democrat, the party itself very quickly changed their minds. Led by Trump in their favorite billionaire news channel, Rupert Murdoch's Fox, they created a new big lie. That January 6th was just a normal tourist occasion and really not that big of a deal. Well, you know what? Sorry, but it was a big deal. It was an insurrection. The first violent sacking of our capital since the War of 1812. Trump's second impeachment was literally for the incitement of an insurrection. And the idea of forgetting that, of just moving on and pretending there's no harm, no foul, and preparing to quietly reinstall the chief insurrectionist without comment, is frankly a shameful idea. The fact that so few voters found his actions disqualifying the Supreme Court conservatives negation of the Constitution's insurrection clause so our shameless Chief Justice, John Roberts could clear the way for his reelection, all of it is, sorry, utterly shameful. Today is not a day to commemorate. Yes, we've got to do it, because that's what some of y'all voted for or failed to vote and cleared the way for. But for God's sakes, let's at least have the decency and dignity to be a little embarrassed. Embarrassed for the most cynical of political parties, for their supposed dear leader, for his billionaire bosses who paid to reinstall him, and for Anyone who dismissed January 6, 2021 as not a deal breaker for the man for whom the violence occurred to be president again. You do realize the rest of the world can see us, right? And 14 days from today, you will hear many soberly and reverently laud the peaceful transfer of power. Well, I hate to be the fly at the picnic table, but you can't peacefully transfer power to an insurrectionist simply because it took them an extra four years to finish the job. This was a violent transfer of power, the most violent in US History, if we're being honest.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Take a look here. All right, January 6th is the biggest memory of Trump's first term. Look at this. Wow.

[Matt Boyle]

It's just fine.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

That is, that is something.

[Matt Boyle]

It's just 5%.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to dismiss it without much of an issue. And among Republicans, what do we see? It was just 2%. So even though you had that significant chunk of Republicans who said, we oppose it, even though the vast majority of Americans opposed it, the bottom line, when it came to November, even when it comes now, most Americans, simply put, Manu are not thinking about it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of A dying regime, pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

There's no got a free shot on.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

All these networks lying about the people.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

The people have had a belly full of it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

In the world to stop that, but.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You'Re not going to stop it.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band. Tuesday, the 7th of January in the year of the Lord 2025. Think about where we were four years ago this morning, I think where we are today, that accomplishment is because of two reasons. The moral courage of President Donald J. Trump to return to the field of combat and this audience having the absolute, complete confidence in their judgment and having President Trump's back in those darkest days of January, February, March, April, May of 2021, when Rupert Murdoch sent out a memo, an email to his team, they're going to make Trump a non person. The entire political apparatus, the entire corporate apparatus, the media apparatus, the big tech, all of it, all of the institutions of the most powerful nation on earth, contemplate that for a second. All of the institutions in unanimous, in total unanimity on one thing, that Donald Trump was the enemy of this country and most importantly, his followers were insurrectionists. Everything they did to you, everything they did to him, you were impervious to it. Last night was absolutely an eye opener that the mainstream media will not give this up and they are stunned and shocked that their propaganda over the last four years is meaningless. We have many, many, many more battles before us and in fact, I'm quite concerned that people are not taking seriously or seriously enough the battles we have ahead of us. They are out, don't believe, don't think for a second that they have dropped. Their principal angle of attack was to destroy Trump and by destroying Trump, destroy the movement around Trump. Because now they understand this movement is incredibly powerful and growing in power every day and growing in scale every day and bringing in new adherents every day. It's only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and this movement is going to reorder the political and economic structure of this nation and therefore in doing it, the world to bring peace and prosperity, to stop the forever wars and to stop the mindset of the invade everywhere invite everyone globalist elite to run this country. Just always remember four years ago this morning. Remember that it's more important than four years ago tomorrow morning. Because the incident had not happened yet. Mike Pence had not portrayed us. When we left the show at noon, it had not happened. We pulled yesterday the live broadcast at 5 o'clock, but it was still going on. We had Ben Berkhom on the scene. It was the day, the morning after morning after the work really started. You could have gone into and let's be blunt, a large portion of your shouldn't say a large portion, but a portion of your compadres ran curled up in the fetal position. Now we got many more adherents at the same time. People who wanted to fight, that's what was important, is the people that wanted to fight. And we still got a fight. We got a bigger fight now because now we are just about to grasp the levers of power and in seizing the institutions and grabbing the levers of power, it's not going to be that easy. It's not going to be that simple. You're already seeing the huge fight we're having that someone has gotten into. And talk about the scale before I get to the two bills versus one lead story on the Hill newspaper. The Hill newspaper is not Breitbart. It's not Gateway pundit, it's not the war room. It's the Hilts. Now, the people that have the what, the one nation or have the new network, the Tribune people own this. You know, Jimmy's gone. Finkelstein, what's the lead story in the Hill this morning? People in the Senate are concerned about an investigation that has to take place on who knew what when about Biden and the deterioration of Biden and Biden not really running this administration for the last couple of years. Well, it's far deeper than that. The investigation into the steal of 2020, the investigation into the Fed's direction of January 6, the investigation, the deep investigation into Joe Biden, this illegitimate regime. The illegitimate regime. Remember on the at High noon on 20 January 2021, I referred to it as an illegitimate regime. And I said we're going to pound that until it's into the American psyche. It's into the American psyche and it's seeped into the United States Senate. They're worried the biggest crime among many crimes of this administrative state in this deep state to destroy this constitutional republic. And the only thing that stopped him was the moral courage and the bravery, the physical bravery of one man. Donald J. Trump and a group of followers that said fix bayonets. We are not, we're not going to back down. We're going to double down. We're not going to surrender. We're going to go to victory. We're not going to retreat. We're going to advance. Matt Boyle, one of the great fighters next in the war room, America's heart.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Matt Boyle joins us now. Matt, they were in total and complete meltdown yesterday. And one of the things they're most we've destroyed them. They're in their head. They can't believe with all the power and all the media and CBS and NBC and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and all of it that it was the war room and Breitbart and a handful of sites that changed the narrative about J6 and got to the truth. The American people saw that too. I could play that thing of Harry Entin, who I think is a very good pollster, showing the guy in the morning show only 5% of the people even think, you know, related to Trump. And he gasped. They can't believe it. They choke on it. Walk me through where we are, brother.

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, look, I think that the establishment Media, this whole J6 thing is a really good example of this. It's probably the best example we've seen in the last several years where the establishment media gets so glommed onto one thing and they're just convinced they're right and the average person out there around the country is just not paying attention to it or doesn't care about it or doesn't have the concerns that they do. They're so out of touch, these establishment media people. And again, you saw it yesterday, people didn't care about this in this election. And not just all those media outlets you just named. I mean, they literally hired at the J6 Committee, Nancy Pelosi brought in the head of ABC News, right, Like to run the thing and do it as a primetime production and nobody cared, right? Like, it's like, you know, at a certain point it's like these folks are totally focused on the wrong stuff. And frankly, this is what's given an opening to people like us at Breitbart, like you guys at the Wharam and other, you know, I hate to even call us like the conservative media at this point. We're just like that. We're the mainstream media, right? Like we're stepping up and covering the things that people care about and talking about the issues that people care about and stepping into the void that they're leaving behind, right? Like, you know, you want to know why there's major problems across the entire establishment legacy media, if you will. Why are people leaving the Washington Post? Why are people, you know, it's like watching sports, free agency or something, right? We're watching the baseball off season right now, right? Like, and all these players are moving from team to team. That's the same thing happening across the establishment media. They. But why is this happening, right? Why are they all in shambles right now? It's because they're all focused on the wrong stuff, right? And that's why what we're gonna do at Breitbart as we head into the new administration here with the Trump round two is we're just doubling down with what we have, right? Like we're making some internal promotions and we're bringing folks to Washington, some of them back to Washington to really double down on it and to just go the stories that everybody else in the establishment media is missing. It's so sad because as a journalist, I'm somebody who believes in journalism. I want journalism to succeed, but the fact is is that I watch and it would be super easy to fix these places, right? Like the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, right? Like, you know, all these places could be fixed in a heartbeat if they just made a couple of minor structural changes and focus changes. But they're not interested in that. Cuz they're interested in the Preserv the globalist establishment and not holding these powerful forces accountable. And by the way, I would argue we're winning this war. Look at what just happened today with Meta and Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg coming out and literally ending the fact check thing. Now look, I don't think it's over yet. Done yet, but we're winning.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

That's just a surrender. I put it up on getter. By the way, Mike Allen in Axios has a magnificent piece of Matt Boyle. Great photo of Matt and the President in an interview about Breitbart and their new expansion into coverage of Matt's going to return to the Capitol. Other things going to happen inside of Breitbart have even more coverage of Trump up close and personal. The administration. But the problem you've got, you got, it's the billionaire owners, the Murdochs, the Bezos. These are tools. Whereas the Wall Street Journal of Fox News, or it's the Washington Post, right, Or the New York Times, these billionaire families, it's their point of view. It's the, it's the neoliberal, neocon, established order perspective. That's a. Yeah, you can make some structural changes, but as long as you've got that mentality and it flows through like the editorial page, the Wall Street Journal is one of the most embarrassing. You would think they would get rid of people after they've been dead wrong about everything since, I don't know, let me pick a random date. 2015, 2014, maybe 2012. And they were all, remember, they were all there, they're all skipping around for Romney. Romney and Paul Ryan are gonna win. They're dead wrong on everything. Dead wrong. They're supposed to be capitalists and capitalism. If you fail, you get the boot, you get the hook. Go ahead, Matt.

[Matt Boyle]

It goes back even further than that, Steve. It goes back to the Bushes, right? The Bush won, Bush 41 and then Clinton and then Bush 43 and then Obama. And it's this globalist experiment, you know, that we saw. I mean, Clinton did nafta, right? Like that was a huge part of the mistakes of Washington, right? And then, you know, obviously you had both Bushes doing all these wars and adventurism in the Middle east and then Obama with the, you know, the full blown globalist, you know, pushing, you know, the takeover, you know, what they did with this in the response to the financial crisis in 2008 and the auto bailout and, and all this stuff. The fact is, is that the total political. This is a total rejection of the complete and total rejection by the American people of the political class in its entirety. And so, again, the fact is that something's gonna change. There needs to be some real serious change. These people, they've learned nothing, right?

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Like, look at, they're not gonna change. They're not gonna.

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, they've learned.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

They're like the Bourbons. They're like, they're like, I think as Voltaire said about the Bourbons before the French, they've learned nothing and they've forgotten nothing. Just hang on for one second. I want to bring Jason Trenor. The favorite paper of the War Room is the Financial Times of London. Gillian Tett is one of their senior editors in charge of capital markets. She wrote a magnificent piece talking about a learning organization. She wrote a magnificent piece over the weekend on Peter Navarro in Maganomics. Jason, you've had a chance to take a look at it. I know you've been at the very forefront, you and Scott Bessant, E.J. antoni, Peter Navarro, others, and kind of rethinking through the economics of what Trump's populist nationalist movement is. Give me your assessment of this article. What can people glean from it?

[Tom Fitton]

Well, I think people can glean from it the idea that China joining the WTO was wound up being a massive wealth transfer from the American middle class to the Chinese middle class. And of course, everyone in the U.S. chamber of Commerce loved it because it meant more profits for them. But we largely kneecapped the working class in the United States. And that was seen as a very heterodox view before President Trump came along, but is increasingly being seen as a more mainstream consensus view now. There are very few things Democrats and Republicans can agree upon right now, but I would say one of the things they can agree upon is that China is seen as at best an economic rival and at worst an enemy. And I think we have to focus more on the true concepts of free trade or reciprocity of trade. If you really had free trade, these trade agreements, these multilateral trade agreements would not be thousands of pages long. They'd be a half a page long and say, you know, these are, there are no tariffs between any of us. But that's not the case. There are always carve outs. There are always political exceptions. And that's why this generally tends to favor rent seekers that have deep pockets and doesn't particularly favor the working class men and women of this country.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Are you pretty shocked that Gillian, who's a renowned and kind of revered figure over the ft, that she wrote an article that gives accessibility if you read the comments on the website, it blows me away. Are people saying it's the first time I've really had an explanation from a major journal of what Magonomics is and it doesn't sound that radical. They may not agree with it, but it doesn't sound that radical. Does it shock you that our beloved Financial Times is finally waking up?

[Tom Fitton]

I have to tell you it surprises me because I have a subscription to the Financial Times and if you read the paper on a regular basis, there's very few things that they agree with with regard to the Trump administration. It's a very globalist newspaper that's very much focused on the post war international rules based order and anything that would question that is seen as, you know, somewhat retrograde. Right. So I am somewhat surprised that it does. As we were talking, as you were talking about before, you know, perhaps unlike the Bourbons, there are some people at the FT that are actually starting to learn something and understanding why there's such political angst not just in the United States but around the world that people enjoy being part of a sovereign nation. They don't want to be part of one globalist way of organizing things. So I have to say I am surprised. I don't know Ms. Tet very well, but she's generally speaking a very thoughtful person. But I'm happy to see it even in an unlikely and unlikely source.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

No, it's a major, it's really a seminal moment in our movement. Peter Navarro, really an incredible story about him, about his career, about his thinking from Harvard and really the underlying economics of the MAGA movement and President Trump's populist nationalism. It's quite done in a very even handed way, critical where it should be but really talks about the collapse of kind of the David Ricardo's from the what the 18th century is thinking from the 18th century. So a seminal moment. Jason, where do people get you? Why we have time to get you? Where do people go to get your common man? Your common man. The common man index, you've got common man CPI.

[Tom Fitton]

So they could go to www.stragusrp.com or asantrenner on X.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Brother, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

[Tom Fitton]

Thank you sir. Thank you.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Trent, one of the architects, Scott Besson, Peter Navarro, Jason Trinidad, E.J. antoni, Steve Cortez. Who else? Oh Dave, Brett. D Day. Brett, the collection of thinkers around the world last couple of years, huge article in the Financial Times of London. A seminal moment, the not embrace of maggonomics, but at least let's study it. Think about it. See what President Trump's really talking about on trade and tariffs. The great mad bull is going to hang around. We got Tom Fitton, Erik Prince. We're going to go live Tomorrow, lago around 11:00 when the president elect 47 steps to the microphone. Donald J. Trump this morning, 11:00, short break.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. We have 90 minutes left in the morning show and here's who we have. Matt Boyle, Tom Fenton, Erik Prince and then Donald J. TRUMP. Ladies, that's 27 Yankees right there. That's Murderer's row. I can't believe this kind of lined up this one. It's incredible. Boyle, Fenton, Erik Prince and Donald Trump. Bat and cleanup. Donald Trump, what a show. I'm just here, just watch it. Burch Gold times are turbulence. Think President Trump's going to talk a little bit today. He's given a press conference. Hope one of the questions is two bills versus one bill. Can't have an omnibus, can't have a summer omnibus. We'll be so bled out we will be bled white by that time. Gotta have one, gotta get on it now. Gotta have something on the border. Immigration, energy, maybe throw a little defense in there. But get on it now. Hit them with 50 executive orders. Bang, bang, bang. Muzzle velocity. Do it now. Gonna be times of turbulence. Already seen in the bond market. Yes, you are. Also seen in the British bond market. The guilt. Yes you are. I don't think the bond market thinks that inflation's finished. Although Bernanke came out yesterday and said President Trump's plan does not look inflationary to him, I agree with that. But we got to get on with it. Birchgold.com End of the Dollar Empire. Make sure you get the sixth free installment. You need to get up to speed this audience. Modern monetary theory, the idea that broke the world. We're not there to make you the smartest person at the cocktail party. We're making sure that when you go fix bayonets on the debt ceiling and all this, that we have some intellectual backup for because ideas have consequences. Matt's going to hang with us. Prince is on deck. I got to bring in Tom Fenton, the great Tom Fenton. Tom, when you put these videos up, which man I absolutely love, I don't know if you're in the coffee room over there, but you just. These are impromptu, but they're so powerful. The one yesterday blew me away. You now have evidence about Fani Willis and Nancy Pelosi colluding together on this criminal, this vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump and other J6ers. Judicial Watch is the go to. It's the People's Justice Department, sir. What do you got for us?

[Erik Prince]

You know, pretty simple request. We asked for records about her communications with the January 6th Committee, the Pelosi operation there. JACK SMITH, Justice Department I think they told us 1, 2, 3, 4 times they had no documents. We said, well, hold on a second. There's at least one letter Jordan released showing that Fannie yourself wrote a letter to Benny Thompson, I think. And so we sued and they didn't even bother to show up in court and answer a lawsuit. They went into default, which if, you know, you don't have to be a lawyer to understand if you don't show up in court and you're a government agency, that's kind of a big deal. And the court said you not only need to show up, you need to give Judicial Watch to document, search for records. And lo and behold, they found a bunch of records and they don't want to give them to us. So now we've got proof positive there's a series of records, communications between the January 6 committee and the so called independent investigation in Fulton county to target Trump on January 6th. Of course, that was what over. What he was indicted for was his activities related to trying to defend free and fair elections and dispute the Biden election victory, to use it, use the term in quotes. And so we caught her. She finally had to fess up to having documents. And just last night the court told her, she has to give us, her office has to give us $20,000 in attorney's fees for what she did here. So we're not even. We're still in the middle of the battle of getting the darn documents. But we fester. We forced her to fess up that she had them to begin with after her telling us, and frankly, the court repeatedly, there was no there there.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Tom. We keep talking about this. There's got to be an investigation totally open about the 2020 election, the whole Fed's election on J6 and now the hills lead story about the Senate. About now they're starting to ask a question amongst each other, like, how do we investigate Biden not even being on the job for the last two years. Right. And that's their admission, not ours. Their admission. What's Judicial Watch? Since you guys really kind of always keep the big picture and drill down and get the receipts, what is your recommendation to both the Trump Justice Department going forward and also the investigative apparatus in particularly in the Hill going forward to make sure the American people understand exactly what went on here, sir?

[Erik Prince]

Well, if I were President Trump, I would appoint a special counsel directly. I wouldn't allow the Justice Department to do the investigation, wouldn't allow the FBI to do the investigation. They have to be the subjects of the investigation. And the president has the power to appoint special prosecutors directly out of the White House. And that's how any criminal investigation into what went on here should be done. Certainly Congress has an interest in understanding how it is. Our government was run for four years by an oligarchy where a president, it's now been confirmed six ways to Sunday, was mentally out to lunch. Of course, he was also compromised by his China and Russia money, which led, in my view, to the invasion of Ukraine and Russia and Chinese adventurism and attacks on American sovereignty.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

All that ought to be part of.

[Erik Prince]

The investigations as well. You know, the challenge for Congress, even if they wanted to do the right thing and had the capacities, is that, you know, with the corruption here in D.C. there are a thousand fires on the horizon. And where do you send your resources to to uncover, combat and make sure they don't spread further? And that should be the only question is not what they investigate, is how much they investigate. Because there's just so much to be done. And of course, we've got our independent FOIA cases. Right. Our lawsuit we just filed, you know, we filed a lawsuit for Ashley Babbitt, for instance. I mean, her killing is Congress to ask any questions about her killing by D.C. u.S. Capitol Hill Police officer.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Tom, the reason that Judicial Watch is revered and you're beloved in this movement is that you guys have an amazing track record. I've known you now, I think, for 10, 12 years of under promising and overperforming. I just want to repeat, Tom Fenton is advising President Trump that he should immediately install a special counsel, special prosecutor, independent from the Justice Department to go through all of it and to staff it up, however he's got to staff it up. But to go through and when you do special counsel, special prosecutors, these are criminal investigations. I just want to make sure I'm clear. That is what you're recommending to President Trump.

[Erik Prince]

That's right. And, you know, I'll leave it to the lawyers to figure out how that process would work and how grand juries could be empaneled and how they could partner with U.S. attorneys and such. But there's gotta be a separation between the Justice Department itself and this isn't on a diss on Pam Bondi or Cash Patel. God help us. That's for sure. This is a recognition the agencies are compromised and they will spend half their time fighting the tens of thousands of James comeys and Andrew McCabes and Peter Strux and Lisa Pages who will be there for a good period of time opposing everything they do. This is why, you know, I always go back to the. Remember the movie Kevin Costner battling the mobster in Chicago? The name's Forget. I'm forgetting the name.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

The Untouchables.

[Erik Prince]

The Untouchables. I remember the jury was compromised at the end of the movie. And what did the judge do? He said, you know what? Bring in the jury from the next courtroom. Yes, The FBI and DOJ's compromise bring a new set of investigators completely untouched by that operation.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Sean Connery's word of advice to young Kevin Kasser Plaint.

[Erik Prince]

They're right now working on a report at the Justice Department to smear Trump through this Jack Smith operation.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

They just stopped. They Trump. Trump last night moved to hold the report until they take over, which is the thing to do. Jack Smith's a criminal. Sean Connery's advice to the young Elliot Ness, played by Kevin Costner, is that when they bring a knife, you bring a gun. Right. That's what has to happen here. Tom, where do people go to find out more about Judicial Watch, One of the great institutions have been created on the right. Where do they go to track you on social media, sir?

[Erik Prince]

Well, they can go to judicialwatch.org we're on X. We're also on Facebook, which is, I guess, a new free land under the Zuckerberg regime. So we're everywhere. Judicialwatch.org, all over social media. Got a great new book out, your Rights and Freedoms in Peril. If they want to know what Trump should be doing and what the crisis is that has to be confronted by this new administration, the book is well worth picking up.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Fantastic. Go to Amazon to get that. Tom Fenton, you're a hero and a patriot. Thank you very much for joining us this morning.

[Erik Prince]

You're welcome. Thank you.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

So, Boyle, when Tom Fenton's calling for a special prosecutor, folks, this is how things roll. This is how things get started. Tom Fenton is a revered guy in President Trump's inner circle. Tom Fitton doesn't say a lot, but when he says something, people pays attention. Matt, you've known this, you've worked with Tom for over a decade. Your thoughts, sir?

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, look, I think he's right. I think the President has to run this out of the White House, right? And so, that being said, and I agree with him 100% too, I have a great admiration for Pam Bondi. I've known her for a decade. Known Cash for even longer. Like, I think the world of both of them. The fact is, is that I do think this has to come out of the White House because so all encompassing, right? Like, it's. So there's so many facets to all of this, right? There's the President, the current outgoing President of the United States, or so they say, that has not really been in command of things. I mean, this is unchartered waters, by the way, in and of itself, right? Like, we've never had a president that is so gone as Biden is, but also so corrupt, right? Like, I mean, the stuff, all the foreign money and all this kind of stuff, but then in addition to all of that, all of these deep state agencies and departments and so on and so forth, I mean, this needs to come from the White House. And so I agree with Tom. I hope that President Trump sees that and is listening. Next time I talk to him, if I do soon, which I hope I will, I will talk to him about this. I will bring it up with him. I hope that President Trump takes the actions from the White House. So, yeah.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

I want to make sure it's very important, because the media follows this show closely. I want to make sure that we're. We're right on our nomenclature. And, ladies and gentlemen, this is why what Tom Fitton just recommended is so important. Remember they had talked about when Gates is going to be Attorney General. They also talked about maybe a special prosecutor appointed by the, by the Attorney General or working over there. Pam Bondi and Cash in their jobs as head of DOJ with all the cleanup they got to do that rat's nest. Pam Bondi and you've seen the team around her with Todd and, and all that you've got then Cash over at FBI, he's got to clean all that out. What Tom Fenton's calling for and what Matt Bowles recommending also is that a special prosecutor be appointed, I guess by the President. Right, by the President. Because this gets back to that unified theory of the executive. He is the chief executive officer, he's the commander in chief. He's also the chief magistrate. And their nose is going to have to be rubbed in this, that by the Constitution, he's the chief law enforcement officer of the country. Matt, we got about 60 seconds. I'd love to hang around for the next one. Your thoughts?

[Matt Boyle]

Yeah, look, I think that, I don't know if you call it a special counsel or whatever the terminology is, but somebody that directly reports to the President, that has broad investigative authority, subpoena power, law enforcement powers, et cetera, you know, and again is run directly out of the White House. That could dig into basically everything, right? Like, I mean, the whole thing, the whole swamp, right? We wanna drain the swamp. This is our shot. We've never had a shot like this ever before. And there's so much to pick at, there's so much to dig into. And I agree with the thing that Tom said there, that really stuck with me is that just like how much and where do you focus and how many fires do you go after? I mean, from covering this stuff for the better part of the last 15 years? I mean, I can tell you there's a million different ways you can go at any given moment. And so you need somebody that has broad authority, broad powers to be able to accomplish that.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

A special prosecutor, somebody that, that has subpoena power can impanel a grand jury. Matt Hanger for one second. I know you gotta bounce, but just hang on one second. Erik Prince, the President, United States, Donald Trump, all of it. Next in the war room.

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Yeah. So we're making an intense focus on coverage of this new administration and we're going to step into the void that the establishment media is leaving open for us. Again. The first big thing is that we've named Nick Garrett, one of our top political reporters here at Breitbart, is going to be our new White House correspondent. The second big thing is is that Bradley Jay, who's been a reporter for us for the last couple years and worked for a number of different top conservatives on Capitol Hill before that in the House and in the Senate. He got his start actually working under Stephen Miller, who is going to be obviously top immigration aide to President Trump in the White House. But Bradley J. Worked for for him in the Senate in Jeff Sessions office back in the very early days of this immigration battle that we've seen in the aftermath of the 2012 election. But Bradley's going to be our deputy politics editor and going to work with me on working with a lot of our reporters. We've named Olivia Rondo, who's covered breaking news, general breaking news for us, to be a new political reporter. So she's going to work with us on Capitol Hill and then. And both me and Christina Wong, who's our Pentagon correspondent, are going to be back in D.C. so I'm going back part time. I've been in Florida for the last four years riding out the Biden presidency. But we're going to be back up there quite a bit. So we're storming into the Washington. We're going to take this swamp by force here. Right. Like we gotta.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Brother. Where do people go to get you at Breitbart? Where do they get you on social media?

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Yeah, just go to breitbart.com I'm on X, Twitter, Boyle1 and TrueSocialal.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

I think one of the last moves I made at Breitbart was to get Matt Boyle off social media. So make sure you see him back on there. Boyle, love you. Look forward to seeing you back up in the imperial capital.

[Matt Boyle]

I will be there. See you soon.

[Vice President Kamala Harris]

Erik Prince, you're one of the best geostrategic thinkers in the world. Please help me out here. I'm just a simple country boy. We have two carrier battle groups in the Red Sea defending the sea lanes for the Suez Canal so that the European elites can have their trade. You got American young men and women out there. We're taking incoming from the Houthis they shot down. Correct me if I'm wrong, or they purportedly shot down, or we shot down our own F18. I happen to think they did it. We just almost shot down a second. We're in an actual gunfight off of Yemen. Am I reading this correctly? Did Joe Biden just released from Gitmo a dozen or 20 Houthis to go back to Yemen? Did I read that correctly or is that some parody account, sir? No, I'm afraid that's not a parody account, Steve. Indeed, they did release a number of Yemenis supposedly to custody in Oman. But, you know, there's plenty of close relationship there. So I would not be Surprised if they're fully released back into general circulation where they can continue their malevolent behavior. It is truly a. It's an irrational move. I don't even understand what the administration is thinking. Yes, just as recently as less than two weeks ago, the Navy, US Navy shot down one of its F18s while it was on final. Flying back into to land on a U.S. aircraft carrier. Almost shot down a second one were it not for the evasive maneuvers of the pilot. So, Eric, Eric. Haven't been a destroyer around a carrier battle group in the North Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf. I don't buy that. I don't buy it. Almost boggles the imagination that a fire control solution could come up on an FA18 with everything that we have sophisticated. I think the Hootie shot. I think they shot it down and we're just afraid to admit it. A drone shot it down. Whatever. It's impossible. I just can't imagine all the checks and double checks. How could you shoot it down on final, sir? Not only did they shoot, it was the Gettysburg, the cruiser Gettysburg that fired multiple missiles. And the even more ridiculous thing is that they shot missiles. Again, having shot down the first F18, they were literally on final. I saw the text messages of both the Dash two and Dash one. The guys that got shot down, they were also dumbfounded. The guys in Dash one punched out just before they were hit by the missile. The second guys went to burner, went down really on the deck, and managed to avoid the incoming. But yes, it was really that bad. The U.S. navy has shot down its own aircraft while they were on final. It's not even. Steve. It's not like they were out 30, 50 miles from the carrier where they could have gotten mixed up with some incoming missile. They were on final approach to the aircraft carrier, and a ship, our ship, shot it down. If you know the checks that you have to go through, I mean, this just shows you the seaworthiness and the lack of just basic fundamental combat information. Fire control. It's stunning. I still. I'd have to sit through the board of inquiry. I'm still going to Houthis, but hang on for a second. We're gonna go live to Mar a Lago. But before we start, Eric, I got so much more to go through with you now that I gotcha. We'll finish with the music from the Right Stuff. If Erik Prince has got it, it's that quality. You just know somebody's got it or not. They got the right stuff. Stunning. Absolutely stunning. The Biden regime. This is why Tom Fenton's right. It's got to be a special counsel, special prosecutor. It has to be. You can't burden Pam Bondi and Cash Patel. They will assist, but they can't be burdened with this. It's so deep, they released Yemenis back into that region where we got two Caribbean battle groups of, I don't know, when you add them up, you got two Caribbean battle groups. You got what, 20,000 sailors, marines, naval air personnel. It's shocking that not even including this fast attack submarines and direct support. Mind boggling. Mind boggling. If you don't call a congressional hearing on that immediately and try to stop it. Whose side is this Biden regime playing for? That's the question. Short break. Mar Lago, President of the United States and Erik Prince, all next in the war room. You owe back taxes, right? Here's the why is the IRS targeting you and not millionaires who owe a fortune compared to you? Rich people have tax attorneys, you probably don't. Tax Network USA are patriots you want on your side to solve your IRS tax problems quickly and painlessly. Their attorneys, strategists and expert negotiators employ brilliant strategies designed to solve your IRS problem quickly in your favor. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which to avoid. And Tax Network USA learned of a limited time special IRS offer. The IRS is willing to forgive $1.

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