
Episode 4180: Gavin Newsom FAILED; Did Illegal Aliens Cause LA Fires?...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people.
E.J. Antoni
The people have had a belly full of it.
Steve Bannon
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Scott Besson
And where do people like that go.
Mike Cernovich
To share the big lie?
Scott Besson
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
E.J. Antoni
If that answer is to save my.
Mike Cernovich
Country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
E.J. Antoni
Okay. Wednesday, the 8th of January, Yervalor 2025. We had some technical problems. Colonel Mills. Try to get Colonel Mills back on again tomorrow. But we are on full watch on this situation in South Korea. One of our strongest allies, remember the South Koreans, not only did they obviously fight shoulder to shoulder with us during the Korean War, and the Korean War is kind of the way I look at it, is still an extension of World War II of the great conflict. Because World War II did not end by the signing of the surrender instrument in Tokyo Harbor, I think on the USS Missouri, he continued on, particularly with. Since the State Department turned over Lao Beijing and the Chinese, as corrupt and as bad as the Kuomintang was and Chiang Kai Shek, he was no beauty, right? But they turned him over to the. Basically to the Chinese Communist Party. General Marshall in that crowd, hoodwinked by the Chinese Communist Party. And we're still paying for that. And then Bush did it again after Tiananmen Square. Whole history of betrayals of one of our greatest allies, the Chinese people, not the leadership, the Chinese people. That's right. Go get Birchgold now. Understand it. Talk to Philip Patrick, give you full access. Also, don't miss an opportunity we can't have. You have a problem with your title. If somebody's getting to your title today and either sell your house, which is maybe a low probability, but take out a second mortgage, the government's already given you a second mortgage. And every household's got like a quote, $220,000 essentially a second because of the debt on your castle, you can't afford. So you're paying taxes or fees or sales taxes, whatever, kind of unbury the government from that. In addition, you can't have it either a bad actor, cyber criminal, or even somebody you know. 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The Chinese, which have had their own problem, their big problem is that in the beginning of the year, they wiped off, I think, $7 trillion of market cap out of their companies because you start to see the tremors that their business model is not working, which is essentially state capitalism with communist dictatorial control. Right. And the slave labor of the Lao Beijing is starting to get antsy because the model's not working out. And the overall model is to transfer that income from middle class America, to transfer it to the slave labor in China, hopefully build a middle class that would support the Chinese Communist Party. That has not worked out. They have had massive financial problems at the end of the year. And now there's this chart about the bond market. They're up to something. These are not dumb people. These are very cunning. The Chinese Communist Party, hey, to be around over 100 years and to have the number of murders that they've had and the butchery they've had, the couple of hundred million Chinese they've tortured to death, starved to death, murdered, killed, whether it's in collectivizations, in the Great leap forward in the Cultural Revolution, that doesn't include the almost half a billion 400 million miles gross numbers, 450 million murders of Chinese babies and the forced abortion. 80% of those are little girls. The hungry ghosts of China demand an accountability. But the Chinese Communist Party, anybody's hung on that long and done what they've done to their people and still around, they fall into the category in the worm of tough hombres. And they are not sitting here welcoming Donald Trump and the anti CCP element, of which I am honored to head in the MAGA movement, coupled with the Chinese patriots that have been able to flee and get throughout the world. So, E.J. tell me what's going on, because some of these charts that Kobayashi folks are putting up have got me quite nervous. And Scott Besson's got a hard enough time with $7 trillion he's got to refinance this year besides everything else that happens in this, in the two reconciliations, because there's going to be two reconciliations. Walk me through what you think through the minds of the Chinese Communist Party they're trying to accomplish.
Scott Besson
Sir well, Steve, that's an absolutely great summation. And essentially what we're seeing right now are extraordinary measures being taken by the CCP, both in terms of fiscal as well as monetary, so called stimulus. In other words, the government over in China is spending the equivalent of trillions of US Dollars in order to try to prop up their failing economy. And it's failing for the exact reasons that you mentioned, Steve, that they're trying to have capitalism, but only quasi capitalism with really what is state overseeing, or essentially almost like a kind of fascism where the government is trying to tell private actors and everything they can and can't do in the private economy. It clearly doesn't work. It hasn't worked. And they've been surviving off of the wealth transfer that you just described, Steve, where they're essentially siphoning wealth off of the American middle class and giving it to the people in China. But that's all coming to an end now. And so they're just spending money they don't have. Their central bank is printing money in order to pay for all of that unfunded spending. And the result is that they are issuing tons and tons of new debt, except there's no one to buy that debt. So who's buying it? The Chinese central bank. And that's why yields on Chinese debt have absolutely collapsed. We actually saw the exact same thing here during COVID Despite the fact that the government was again spending trillions of dollars it didn't have yields on Treasuries fell because the Fed essentially pledged to buy all of that debt. We also saw the exact same thing at the outbreak of World War I in Great Britain when they held, they pretended to hold really these bond rallies where they would get people to buy the debt of the British government. And that was supposed to be a sign of people's confidence in the British pound and in the British government, the fact that the yields on that debt were falling. Except it turned out that 100 years later, documents were finally released showing that the bank of England was the chief purchaser of all of that government debt. In other words, there was no confidence in the pound, there was no confidence in the British government, and it was simply the bank of England again buying all of that debt. So we're seeing the exact same thing today in China. That's why the yields on Chinese debt have absolutely collapsed. It's not because people all of a sudden have confidence in the Chinese regime. They don't. Instead, again, it's the central bank stepping in and printing the money to pay for all of this Chinese debt. Now the question is, how is this going to impact Americans? Right, because we're about America first. The problem here is that this devaluation of the Chinese yuan, the renminbi, is going to give their exporters another big advantage over American domestic producers because it's going to affect the relative value of those currencies. In other words, it will make it look like Chinese goods are even cheaper than they already are. So one of the things that the Chinese Communist Party aims to achieve right now in all of these monetary maneuvers is again, to further rob the American people of our ability to compete with them on the world stage. And this is something that was going on back during the first Trump administration. The previous Treasury Secretary, Mnuchin, was supposed to be all over it. He only was for a little bit, and then kind of gave up with policing the currency manipulations by the Chinese Communist Party. And I think Scott Bessen is gonna do a much better job than Steve Mnuchin did of really staying on top again, of all the monetary manipulations out of the Chinese Communist Party. And we're gonna have to not only stay on top of it, but we're gonna have to punish these bad actors as they try to manipulate currency markets and. And give their exporters an unfair advantage over our domestic producers. This is about protecting American industry and protecting American jobs and therefore American people.
E.J. Antoni
E.J. are they. Are. Dr. Antoni. Are they doing this to front load and get ahead of. They know President Trump's gonna come in with tariffs. They understand he's gonna renegotiate these trade deals. Are they trying to do this to get ahead of it, to make sure that they're even, not even more competitive, but they're basically loading up the debt to undercut prices. So this is where their state capitalism comes in. Is this to get ahead of what? They know President Trump with Navarro and Bessant are going to go, Steve, that's.
Scott Besson
A great way to put it. It's very similar to when retailers will jack up their prices right before Black Friday and then they have a so called Black Friday sale where the prices are now 25% off. Okay, but you just raised the prices 25% the week or the month before. So it's not really a sale at all. The Chinese are trying, the Chinese Communist Party is trying to do the same thing here. So they're essentially going to make their exports even more artificially cheap than they already are so that when the currently proposed tariffs get actually put into place, it essentially just resets the chessboard so that they're hoping that things will be right back to where they were a month or two ago. Again, this is where I'm very, very hopeful that Trump, that Besant, that Navarro will be all over this. And one of the key ways I think that we can keep an eye on this, Steve, is something that Judy Shelton highlighted not that long ago in a recent book of hers where she talked about the currency manipulations that countries like China are engaged in. And a good way to monitor that would be to look at how much gold does the dollar buy versus how much gold does the renminbi buy. And as you see the renminbi falling behind gold faster than the US Dollar, that is a good numeraire. In other words, it's a good objective standard by which you can measure both currencies to see which is devaluing faster. Now that's not to say that the dollar has been great against gold. It clearly hasn't. That's one of the reasons why so many people, including myself, have been recommending that people buy gold as an inflation hedge. However, the Chinese renminbi has been even worse and it's a sign that they are trying to devalue their currency even faster than we have devalued our currency here. And again, the aim there is to give themselves an unfair advantage in global markets. And so you can very easily then tie a kind of tariff or a non tariff barrier to the the relative gold price of different currencies. In other words, if you Chinese Communist Party are gonna devalue your currency relative to gold, relative to the US dollar, then we are going to impose a tax on everything you send to this country that makes up for the difference. If you're gonna allow your currency to fall, to lose, let's say half of its value, then we're gonna put 100% tax on that in order to again reset the playing field and try to put us on a level playing field. And again, all of this goes back to this idea that they are going to try to make up for the inherent failures within their system by siphoning wealth off of the American middle class, as you articulated. Steve.
E.J. Antoni
Yeah, E.J. can you hang over one second? I just want to hold you for a few minutes after this break. Beggar thy neighbor in military might. Frank Gaffney and the team over there showing that they're having a bigger military buildup for dollars than Hitler had in the starting in the mid-1930s. And now you've got the beggar thy neighbor monetary policies and the trade policies. When this all fails, and it will fail for the Chinese Communist Party, their pivot to keep, to keep the folks at bay is to point to the foreign devils and say we gotta go to war. That's why what's happening in South Korea. So South Korea to the Third World War is bloody Kansas to the Civil war or Spain 1935. It's happening, folks. This is happening. It's happening on our watch. This is what President Trump's walking into. A geopolitical, global geopolitical fiasco exacerbated by the clowns at Morning Joe and of course the illegitimate regime of Biden. This is much, much, much more dangerous than the late 1930s by five orders of magnitude. Short break.
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Scott Besson
Super inspired, she took time out of her already busy schedule to tell us about her vision for the department's future. One that includes a three year strategic plan to increase diversity. People ask me what, what number are you looking for? I said, I'm not looking for a number. It's never enough.
E.J. Antoni
Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now. She's already looking at ways to change that.
Mike Cernovich
She's quick to point out that doing.
Scott Besson
So has a greater purpose, attracting the.
E.J. Antoni
Best and brightest for the job.
Scott Besson
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part of a cohesive team. The chief also checks another box when it comes to inclusivity and diversity at this department.
E.J. Antoni
She's a proud member of the LGBTQ community.
Scott Besson
That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, wow, I didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
Natalie Winters
Its leadership has since changed.
Scott Besson
Chief Crowley is an openly gay woman now. It took me a couple years. I wasn't sure. And this was when I was new on the job. I was very kind of mindful about my personal life.
Natalie Winters
Very serious people addressing, well, actually serious problems, or I guess in this case, what, not addressing them. Now, I want to bring you guys back to an article from, Believe it or not, the Washington Post In 1996, before I was born. But let's read that headline, Illegal Immigrants Feeding Wildfire Epidemic in California. Now, very rarely do I unironically quote the Washington Post on war room, but hey, it's 2025 new year, new me. Illegal immigrants who hike through the rugged, forested mountains of eastern San Diego county after making it across the border are causing a dramatic surge in wildfires because of the fires they light when camping out in the area, state and county officials said today. Now, this is a quote. Now, I know we're talking about San Diego, which is about what, an hour, hour and a half south, including LA traffic. So it's actually not that far. But I think we know under Joe Biden, these numbers have only multiplied by a radical, radical, radical increment. But are you ready? Quote, it's a disaster waiting to happen, said Diane Jacob, a member of the Board of Supervisors representing eastern San Diego County. I don't think it's a matter of if we have a major human catastrophe. It's a case of when, if something isn't done immediately. Well, I'll bring you flash forward to this year. Now, someone had to foia cal fire for data. This was up sort of near Santa Barbara area. From May 1 through June 1 of 2024, there were eight fires along the border. Do you know how many of those were tied to illegal border crossers? And the only one that wasn't, I guess I just gave it away. It was seven of them. But the only one that wasn't, it's only because the cause was undetermined. And I guess it started in Mexico, so you could choose how you want to categorize that. And then In July of 2024, an illegal immigrant deported 3. Sorry, illegal alien. Got to get my nomenclature right. Deported three times. Set a California fire that killed a mother and her two young children. See where I'm going with this? And like I said, as someone who was born and raised in LA in a house that is now under currently evacuation orders. For those of you who spent time in la, you know what the whole beach scene is like. The Malibu area where all these famous historic restaurants have burned down. It's homeless people. It's people parked out and camped out in cars. I mean, there are fires just waiting to happen. There's clips all over social media of mentally ill homeless people, illegal aliens setting fires for just no known reason. And the police officers don't do anything about it. Not to go anecdotal, but my parents who still live there, take my wonderful dog Rosie on a walk on the beach. Every single morning. They'll go for walks. There'll be homeless people in tent encampments, which is illegal per Santa Monica law. The police never enforced it. There's dozens, dozens. I'm talking about 60 plus homeless people. Probably illegal aliens, too. You can tell sitting there. They never enforce the law, but they come up to my parents and they say, you aren't allowed to walk your dog on the beach. You're being fined. That's the America that you live in. That's the value of citizenship, I guess. At least they know you have money. So then they can, what, tax you and charge you with a crime? Because, hey, at least they know you'll be able to pay. Because in other words, you don't have papers. You're an illegal alien. That's what it's like living in California, right? That's what happens when you have Democrat supermajority rule for so long. I mean, Newsom is responsible for more destruction right now than anything that allegedly happened on January 6th. Right? And I guess they'd say, oh, well, hey, Democrat super majority rule. It's so great. At least you can get, what, an elective abortion at 9 months post birth? Hey, at least your kid can transition at age 6 months. How about this? At least your driver's license in California. You can now be non binary and use what the pronouns you know, zer. Except the thing that they don't tell you is that that Driver's license is probably going to be what you're using to escape a fiery inferno. Then you're going to have to abandon your car because the roads are so poorly maintained and the urban planning by all these brilliant, Harvard educated expert elites that are running the city of Los Angeles don't know what they're doing. And by the way, it's a fire that never should have even happened in the first place. I want to put a video of Gavin Newsom, if you haven't picked up. He's the guy we're going after on this show. Justifiably so. Next to me now, do you guys remember? And you can just keep playing it. When Steve was in prison, like a true man, I believe I sat here, had something to do with immigration. And I sat here and I said, the Democrats version of masculinity is making you sit in a cuck chair and watch the destruction of your country, the degradation and mental illness propaganda spreading against your children. And they want you to sit there and take it and do nothing about it. And that video of Gavin Newsom is that version of masculinity to a T. I'm so glad, dude, that you got the photo op. So glad. You know, it's almost as good as when Kamala Harris went down to the border for a day, introduced the word sovereignty to her vocabulary. Now it's apparently gone. But you're responsible for this. And just last month you plotted with all of your stupid Democrat legislators. You had a special emergency session. Have you called a special emergency session about this fire? I don't think so. But you called it so you could plot against Trump, let that sink in. And by the way, it was what, a $25 million taxpayer subsidized justice fund so illegals wouldn't get supported yet. Probably the same illegals that I'm sure, and mark my words, will probably find out a few years from now started this fire. I tell Facebook to fact check me, but what I hear, they don't have their fact checking programs anymore. You know, you want to talk about preemptive pardons, what was it? Was it you? Gavin Newsom? In 2020, Trump signed an executive order diverting water from Northern California to cities and farmers in the South. They wanted to put it down in the city. And Gavin Newsom immediately filed suit to, quote, protect highly imperiled fish species close to extinction. Yet maybe you should be added to the preemptive pardon list too, at this. Absolutely disgusting. We got more clips that we're gonna be playing, but I think we have the one and only Mike Cernovich joining us. Mike, if we have you, always an honor to have you on War Room. I was looking at my text, I think was 2023, you were last on. We got a few minutes left in this break before we get to. I think you're calling for what federal takeover of California before we make the case for that. You are in California right now, I think the Laguna beach area. Can you sort of give the audience an overview what it's like of your friends in the area where we stand now with.
Mike Cernovich
Yeah, luckily for us, we're further south in Republican Orange county and. But we've had multiple friends have to evacuate the Palisades. Multiple people who worked at Breitbart have had to leave their houses because the. And Peachy Keen, she's, you know, great Twitter person. She was in. Well, she, she said she was near Pasadena. So I'm not, I'm not doxxing her or anything like that. So the fires are so out of control now that they. So to people who don't know the California landscape well, which is obvious because when people argue with me about California, it's pretty clear that they don't. You have the Palisades, which is in one of the most desirable places to live in the country and in the world. And it's a little bit north of Malibu, but it's in the Malibu area. It's very mountainous, it's very rural. I remember because I went to law school at Pepperdine being surprised at how rural Malibu was because if you grew up anywhere else, you hear Malibu and you think it must be this glitzy place. But in fact, it was. It was rural. It looked very. People would ride horses. There's a lot of trails. So when these wildfires hit, they just jump. They just jump house to house and they go through all of this dried forest that hasn't been well maintained. And then the fire just kept spreading south and it's also reached because of the winds, Pasadena and Santa Monica, which is huge. We're talking a 40 mile area. Nobody thought that fires would get this bad because there had always been fires in Malibu. Everybody knew this. It was always a risk, but they would be contained. So this is going all the way up from the Palisades. If you have a map, people can look at the map. Pacific Palisades, all the way south, putting Santa Monica in danger and then also heading east, putting Pasadena in danger. Which is, which, which is bizarre. I mean, it really is a cataclysm.
Natalie Winters
No, it really is. Is so unprecedented. Mike, before we go to break, just give me a minute. Your sort of overarching thoughts. Our theory of the case here in war room, the state has been mismanaged. You know, I'm from Santa Monica from start to finish, starting with Gavin Newsom, all the way down to the DEI hires and all the woke stuff, if you want to, you know, entertain that. But your. Your thoughts on if you think that this really calls into question the leadership in California and Los Angeles.
Mike Cernovich
Yeah. There needs to be a federal response. One of the persons who I think deserves a lot of blame for this and a lot of rancor. I think we need to not be nice to these people is Maria shriver. Even though RFK Jr is MAHA now, there's an alliance there that family members who attacked him, there were Kennedys who are on the city council of Santa Monica. These people have been ground zero for the destruction of California. Their liberalism has been ground. Not RFK Jr. But the Kennedy family. So I'm saying that, you know, we gotta be careful how we talk about it because we don't want to insult RFK Jr. S family. But people like Maria Shriver and them are saying, oh, can't believe it. What do you mean you can't believe? You vote for Karen Bass instead of Rick Caruso. Instead of voting for visionary real estate developer who is basically a Democrat, he was an RFK junior kind of guy. There was no. There was no reason to not vote for Caruso. And so you vote for Karen Bass.
Natalie Winters
You and Mike, I'm gonna hold you right there because we gotta jump to break. But if you can stay with us, obviously we gotta make the case for a significant and sizable federal response. Warren Posse. We'll be right back. In the meantime, make sure you're checking out warpath coffee. Use promo code war room and of course, sacredhumanhealth.com promo code war room. As always, we will be right back. Mike Cernovich, so much more.
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Natalie Winters
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. You're back in the war room, where of course, you got to be checking out rebels, rogues and outlaws. War room got to get up to speed on government gangsters before the cash confirmation hearings commence, which, as we have suggested, need to start January 21st. The very latest. We are still joined by the one and only Mike Cernovich, who is in California right now. Mike, I sort of want to pick up where we left off, but sort of through this lens of, you know, Rick Caruso versus Karen Bass for people who don't know who exactly these people are, I think that's sort of an interesting insider jumping off point to more broadly demonstrate how California, Los Angeles politics have contributed to the situation that we're seeing unfold right now. Your thoughts?
Mike Cernovich
Right, so I'll do a flashback and old, an old man, an old guy flashback. So 20 or 30 years ago, you know, the first time I saw California, all I could think of was, was, wow, what is this place? Everywhere you would look around, there was new developments. There was a good balance between old and new. The people were in great shape. Everywhere you looked, you were in awe. And Rick Russo was one of the developers in Southern California. He did the before Calabasas got famous from the Kardashians, he developed Calabasas. He developed a grove which was a big plaza. And he was known for using a lot of water features and making blending shop. Not to sound like an architect, but blending the water features and feeling like you're kind of in nature, kind of in a courtyard while also commercial shopping. He was visionary. I think he's a billionaire by now. But I watched his profile grow over the past, say, 30 years and he wanted to be mayor of Los Angeles. He was somebody who had had a proven track record, knew how to build, knew how to run budgets, was a philanthropist. He's given so much, like crazy amounts of money away. I sometimes on Exit's funny, you'll see these guys that are billionaires and they'll throw around a few thousand dollars or they'll try to show up to Milagro and try to buy their way in with a million dollars, you know, after they give 500 million to Democrats and then they want to show their faces at Mar a Lago with these little, you know, penny any checks based on their net worth. And I always find that a joke. And with Caruso, this guy, he was a true man of the people, a great philanthropist and a Democrat, frankly. But our politics wouldn't agree. But I live in California, so I'm realistic about what you can get. And then Karen Bass was just a dei Kamala Harris person, propped up her whole career, if you want to call it that. No genuine achievement, no genuine accomplishment. Caruso ran for mayor. He ran how you would have to run for California, which, if you're a purist outside of California, not a great idea always to comment about California politics. He was ahead. And then what happened on election night when he was ahead? More votes came in from the unions, more ballots have been found, and then overnight, his lead collapsed and he lost. If you believe he lost. But either way, it shouldn't have been close. Absolutely shouldn't have been close. And maybe if the election had been had this prior cycle where Prop 36, the crime reform initiative, passed 70, 30, maybe he would have won. But this was a choice. And here's where I don't want to sound cruel, I don't want to sound gribble, because people I do business myth have lost their homes in Palisades. Close, close friends of mine have lost everything. Their houses are gone. The schools they send their kids to are gone. This is a traumatic thing, right? And then people say, don't politicize it. And I say, I understand that those people, those people who love America, I love them and I truly feel for them, okay? The writers and the Hollywood people who live in the Palisades and have profited off of the corruption in California at 70, 30 Democrat. So they didn't want to recall Newsom. They voted for Kamala Harris. My God, imagine if they had gotten their way. They supported Karen Bass, the Kennedy family, city council members in Santa Monica. They did this. And we're just supposed to pretend like they didn't. And we're just supposed to say, oh, I don't want to. I don't want to bring up the fact that this is a Democrat super majority. Let's just kumbaya and pretend like they didn't do it, didn't vote for. They did. So I don't want to see people like Marie Shriver showing her face saying, Anything I want to see people saying, what are you talking about? You voted for that. And they go, well, you didn't vote for fires. Oh, but you voted for Karen Bass instead of Caruso. You voted for people who can't keep water and fire hydrants. I mean, I know you come to California, we had record floods. The water just poured right in the ocean. No way to capture it. They were gonna build all this green New Deal stuff. They didn't do that. They couldn't build basins. So this is what Democrat supermajority gets us. So that's the case that I'm making for federal takeover of California. I know that Trump is being a little cheeky when he talks about Canada being a 51st state. And I think the reaction that Pierre, the Apple leader and others have is amusing. But California is a state under the Constitution. There's a case to be made that the federal government needs to come in to enforce the civil rights of the people, to act in a Reconstruction kind of manner. So I want the Trump administration. I'm a citizen and resident of California. I want the Trump administration to exercise its constitutional power to come in and fix all the election fraud. They have this authority. They have this authority under the 14th Amendment, Section 5. They have the authority to enforce the rights, the civil rights of me, the citizens, which is being deprived by the state government of California, where people can't trust the elections, where somehow these Orange County Republican areas all went Democrat, even though everywhere else was trending for Trump. But somehow Michelle Steele lost her election, even though she didn't run a good race. And I said that to their faces and they wouldn't listen to me. So I don't know what to tell Scott. Bao lost his. I don't know. So I am unironically. This isn't me being cheeky. When I'm talking about Canada being a state. I'm goofing off because I know it annoys the Canadians. I'm not joking. I want the. I want the federal government under Trump to come in and clean the state up. And they have the constitutional authority to do so.
Natalie Winters
Obviously, msnbc, media matters, take your pick. They'll be melting down over that. But to that point, we opened the show with a clip from MSNBC where they're already somehow indirectly trying to blame Trump for this, saying that he withheld disaster aid and the whole Gavin Newsom back and forth over wildfire response. So where do you think there is either the proven track record on the Trump side that shows that he would be up to task to do this better than Gavin Newsom or conversely. I know you've been tweeting up a storm all day, but I mean, when you really dig in, whether it's the salaries or just the abject failure and the prioritization, I always think DEI is too sort of cheeky a term. It's everything that's anti straight white male. It's anti whiteness to its core. But make the case, contrary to what MSNBC is saying, that Trump has botched emergency response, pandemic response.
Mike Cernovich
Well, this is why nobody other than conservatives watch MSNBC anymore. Just to kind of know what the idiots are saying. Because that's true. Because there's no credibility what they say. Here's what I love. And this is reminiscent of the entire Democrat mindset in the Kamala Harris campaign.
Scott Besson
On day one on.
Mike Cernovich
Wait, no, no. You were in office for four years, right? On day one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You were in office for four years while I was only. They had all these excuses, right? So this is all they can do. This weird year zero poll pot kind of thinking where we haven't been in control and you can't blame us. So it's all nonsense. But to address blaming Trump, Obama, they quit doing wildfire clearings. I posted links to all documented sources because I want everything I say to be truthful and to be unimpeachable. The Biden administration quit doing the clearing because they were afraid a fire would happen and they would get blamed, even though they knew there was a bigger risk of a fire happening. But then they could say, well, it's not our fault, which is what Democrats do. Don't do anything that somehow might lead to a very low risk of a bad outcome because you might get blamed. Just let the druggies burn this stuff. Most of the Bernie's already talked about climate change. Even if people believe in that, which I hope nobody watching this thinks, it's man made, but even. Let's just assume it is, okay? Assume it is. Okay. Okay, Master Bernie, it is. There's no water in the fire hydrants, bro. This is a Democrat problem. The LA Fire Department's budget was cut by Mayor Karen Bass, who was mayor instead of Rick Russo. The homelessness budget was $1.3 million allocated. So we're giving more money to the homeless industrial money laundering complex than we are to the fire department. The fire department is not physically fit like it used to be. It used to be if you lived. I mean, California's changed so much in 30 years. It's unrecognizable. It used to be if you went to the gym, a lot of the local gyms would give the fire department guys a free gym membership, and Pepperdine would let the local guys work out. And they were strong guys, strong, fit guys. And then you look at what they have now. It's not that. It's not that anymore. So we have a competency crisis. We have a strength crisis. We don't have people who can run. And a lot of them are still good. They've been doing heroic work. So I don't want some loser to try to claim that I'm. A lot of them are still doing good work, but we're undermanned by about half. And these are all due to Democrat policy choices, directly traceable choices. And that's why they want to pretend like. I love how they pretend like they're not in power. That's what they were. Oh, on day one. I'll do this. Kamala Harris. Okay, but you haven't done anything. You haven't gone to the border. Biden, I guess, is still president, although his press conference got cut off short today. So there's no logical way to blame Trump because Trump himself was saying in 2019, people found his old posts then called tweets. Clear the brush. They don't do any of this. Right. Or they do very little. So there's no really blame Trump angle here.
Natalie Winters
Mike Cernovich, please come back. I know you very rarely do interviews, so I'm always honored to have you in the war room. In the meantime, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on. Where can they go to do that?
Mike Cernovich
They can find me on Axe at Cernovich, but probably not.
Natalie Winters
Probably a lot of them a must follow. Mike, thank you.
Mike Cernovich
A lot of them. Very true.
Natalie Winters
Thank you so much for joining.
Mike Cernovich
I'll read the telegram chats after I come on. So I would. I would say tread lightly, warm room listeners. I might not be your cup of tea.
Natalie Winters
You know, the war room posse is very discerning. But, you know, we like. We have good taste in the war. Mike, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you back on soon.
Mike Cernovich
All right, see ya.
Natalie Winters
And war room posse, you want to talk about a little bit of live producing? It's not every day that you're hosting a show where your brother, who, by the way, is tried to actually be a firefighter, but I believe he was turned down. You know what I look like he is a straight white Male. I'm sure that's not why he got turned down. What? But he just texted me, hey, the house just got the mandatory evacuation. Do you think I should call someone to get the documents out? So thank you, Joe Biden, and thank you, Gavin Newsom, and thank you, Karen Bass, for allowing me to have a moment where I have to question if the house that I grew up in is still going to be standing and if all the documents, the pictures, my parents wedding, me growing up, it's going to be so. I really hope, Gavin Newsom, that it was worth letting a ton of illegal aliens pour into California, wasting money on God knows what corruption that you profited off of you and your disgusting wife, all you Hollywood execs who voted for Democrats just because they were Democrats, because you didn't have the moral courage to stand up and vote for people who are going to save this country and put damn water and frickin fire hydrants. Sorry if that's me being high maintenance. I like my countries and my cities and my towns where the fire hydrants actually have water in them. I don't live in the third world and I don't want to import the third world and I don't want my tax dollars to go fund stupid wars in Ukraine. So my house might now might catch on fire and burn down. So what, we can all pat ourselves on the back and say we're a multicultural, eco friendly, climate change friendly country. Yes, screw all that. That's where it gets you. So thank you, Joe Biden, from the bottom of my heart. I'm so glad that you became, as you announced in your press conference, a great grandfather today. Because a bunch of Americans are about to lose their homes. And let's not even get into the Americans who've lost their damn lives under your role as president. I'm not just talking about Afghanistan. Yeah, you know, I'm sure Lake and Riley's parents would love to have had the ability to become great grandparents, but you took that away from them. I hope you sleep well at night. And I hope you sleep well at night in a prison cell, because that's where you belong. And frankly, Gavin Newsom too. We'll be right back after this short break.
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Natalie Winters
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. You're back in the war room. Remember when I used to work for the National Pulse? Well, now it's so cool that National Pulse is partnered with War Room. You got to go to nationalpulse.com war room. Check it out. You know you gotta subscribe. Get Raheem's editor's notes. They're great. I read them. And while you're at it, I think if there's anything that we've learned from this show today, it's that things are very unstable, turbulent, whatever adjective you want to use. I think there are probably a lot. But the one thing that you can do to take control back is, of course, check out birchgold.com bannon or text Bannon to 989898 get the latest installment of the End of the Dollar Empire. We are now joined by by Chris Hoare, who I was going to get to last block. But it's not every day that you get a text saying your house is about to burn down. So my apologies, a little bit of live production. But Chris Hoare, you, I understand, have an awesome deal for us. All things satellite phones. Hit us with it.
Chris Hoare
Well, yeah, Natalie, first of all, I hope and pray that your house is safe. I know it's been a terrible couple of days for so many people in California and I hope you guys are okay and your house okay. But look, a lot of people have already lost their houses and their businesses. We have a ton of clients in Northern California in the LA area. We are, of course based in san diego@sat123.com and we've been very, very busy today. Our satellite phones are the only thing keeping a lot of people in communication. And we've been saying this for a long time, Natalie, as you know, that when the worst case happens, and this is the worst case scenario, cell phone towers go down. Right now in LA county, we have over 1.6 million people without power, and that means cell towers are down as well. Cell towers run on power and when they go down, your cell phone will not work. And that means if you are stuck and you have no cell phone, then you have no way to communicate. So it's so important that everyone has a sat phone ready to go in case they should suffer one of these, God forbid, one of these terrible situations. But as far as today is concerned, Natalie, first thing I want to say is that we do sell satellite phones. We also rent them for people who are out of power and who right now we can. They can call us at 941-841-0844. That's 941-841-0840. We can rent you a satellite phone for a couple of days, a couple of weeks, however long you want. And we are also still providing free satellite phones with activation, and that's $1,000 savings. You also get a free bulletproof backpack included in the deal, which is pretty helpful these days. But like 94 bucks a month is all you have to pay. That gets you 150 minutes, and those minutes roll over if you don't use them. But Natalie, when you have a situation like this, you have no power, you have no cell phone, no landlines, nothing like that. A satellite phone is literally a lifeline in every possible way. And so we continue to urge people to be prepared if they're not in LA county right now. But look, these fires could spread and we've already seen devastating, other devastating fires taking place throughout the nation. So it's been a dry year and you know, if it doesn't, we don't see much prec. Pretty quickly this could happen elsewhere. But the biggest thing to know, Natalie, is that we can get equipment to LA county as soon as today. If you call us right now, we can get you satellite phones. We also sell and rent Starlink satellite Internet for those people who have lost Internet, which again, millions of people are now without Internet in LA county and the surrounding areas. So we are here to help, to make sure that you can get back up and running or you can restart your business, whatever it is. This is what we've been doing for 20 years and we're proud to do it. Some people gouge their customers in these situations, unfortunately, it's terrible. We here@sat123.com are maintaining our free satellite phones. No change with activation. We want to do whatever we can to help make sure those people who've already lost everything can at least start to get their lives back together. We also not only provide, we sell generators that run on solar power. So look, I don't know in California how long it's going to take to get the power back up, but I doubt it's going to be quick in many of these areas. So whatever it is you need, from sat phones to satellite, Internet to mobile generators, we've got that@sat123.com or call us at 941-841-0844. We're open 24 hours a day. That's 941-841-0840. And we can get USA equipment as soon as today if that's what you need.
Natalie Winters
Thank you, Chris, for coming on. We will have you back on soon, hopefully under better, better circumstances. Have a good one.
Chris Hoare
You too. Thanks, Natalie. Best of luck.
Natalie Winters
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Mike Lindell
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Natalie Winters
You've got to check it out. Yes, Mike Lindell, we've got a bounce. But as always, thank you for joining us. We'll have you back on soon. Warren Posse. As always, thank you for the prayers and kind messages I've already been receiving. You know, the cheeky bumper stickers that you see around town. What is it? Don't blame me. I voted for Trump. My mom is the kind of person who would have one of those signs, though I don't think she ever put it out because I'm sure our socialist neighbors would have attacked us. But let's just say when the neighborhood burns down, maybe stake that in the ground. Don't blame me. At least I voted for Trump. And at least I voted against Gavin Newsom. But I guess too many illegals canceled out my vote. I guess that's called election fraud. Have a good one. I'll see y'all tomorrow.
Steve Bannon
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Episode Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4180: "Gavin Newsom FAILED; Did Illegal Aliens Cause LA Fires?"
Release Date: January 9, 2025
In Episode 4180 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the multifaceted crises plaguing California, critically analyzing Governor Gavin Newsom’s administration and exploring the broader implications of international economic manipulations by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The episode intertwines discussions on domestic policy failures, wildfires exacerbated by illegal immigration, and the geopolitical maneuvers of China, all while incorporating insights from various guests. The episode is punctuated by promotional segments endorsing products and services aligned with the show's conservative ethos.
[00:02] – Stephen Bannon’s Provocative Start
Stephen Bannon launches the episode with a confrontational stance against what he describes as a "dying regime," expressing frustration over perceived media deceit and governmental overreach:
"This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people." — Stephen Bannon [00:02]
[00:16] – Guests Echo the Frustration
Guests E.J. Antoni, Scott Besson, and Mike Cernovich join Bannon in condemning the current administration's policies, highlighting a collective sense of disillusionment among conservatives:
"The people have had a belly full of it." — E.J. Antoni [00:16]
[00:52] – Overview of China’s Economic Decline
E.J. Antoni provides a historical perspective on China’s ongoing economic struggles, tracing back to post-World War II betrayals and the shift in alliances:
"The State Department turned over Lao Beijing and the Chinese, as corrupt and as bad as the Kuomintang was and Chiang Kai Shek..." — E.J. Antoni [00:52]
[06:05] – Scott Besson on CCP’s Fiscal Policies
Scott Besson elaborates on the extreme fiscal and monetary measures the CCP is employing to stabilize their faltering economy. He draws parallels to historical precedents, emphasizing the lack of genuine confidence in the Chinese regime:
"They are issuing tons and tons of new debt, except there's no one to buy that debt. So who's buying it? The Chinese central bank." — Scott Besson [06:05]
Notable Quote:
"The Chinese Communist Party, anybody's hung on that long and done what they've done to their people and still around, they fall into the category in the worm of tough hombres." — Stephen Bannon [05:46]
[10:12] – Currency Devaluation as a Tool
E.J. Antoni and Scott Besson discuss China’s deliberate devaluation of the renminbi to gain a competitive edge in global markets, undermining American industries:
"If the Chinese Communist Party are gonna devalue your currency relative to gold, relative to the US dollar, then we are going to impose a tax on everything you send to this country that makes up for the difference." — Scott Besson [10:47]
Key Insight: Besson references Judy Shelton's analysis on monitoring currency devaluation through gold prices, underscoring the strategic undercutting of U.S. economic interests by China.
[16:11] – Diversity Initiatives in Fire Departments
Scott Besson introduces a segment on increasing diversity within California’s firefighting units, highlighting Chief Crowley’s efforts to include underrepresented groups:
"Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now." — E.J. Antoni [16:11]
[24:32] – Mike Cernovich on Wildfire Cataclysm
Mike Cernovich provides a firsthand account of the unprecedented wildfires ravaging California, emphasizing the rapid spread and the government's inadequate response:
"The fire just kept spreading south and it's also reached ... Pasadena and Santa Monica, which is huge. We're talking a 40 mile area." — Mike Cernovich [24:32]
[26:26] – Natalie Winters Blaming Democratic Leadership
Natalie Winters critiques Governor Gavin Newsom and Democratic policies, asserting that illegal immigration has directly contributed to the wildfire epidemic:
"Gavin Newsom is responsible for more destruction right now than anything that allegedly happened on January 6th." — Natalie Winters [26:26]
[30:07] – Political Accountability for Wildfire Management
Mike Cernovich discusses the political ramifications of the wildfires, attributing blame to Democratic leaders and advocating for federal intervention:
"So I want the federal government under Trump to come in and clean the state up. And they have the constitutional authority to do so." — Mike Cernovich [30:07]
[35:46] – Demand for Federal Takeover
Building on the earlier discussions, Cernovich argues for a federal takeover of California to address systemic mismanagement and enforce civil rights under the 14th Amendment:
"I want the Trump administration to exercise its constitutional power to come in and fix all the election fraud." — Mike Cernovich [30:07]
[36:39] – Critique of Current Administration’s Emergency Response
Cernovich vehemently criticizes the Biden administration’s handling of emergency responses, particularly in wildfire prevention and management:
"The Biden administration quit doing the clearing because they were afraid a fire would happen and they would get blamed." — Mike Cernovich [36:39]
Key Argument: The hosts collectively argue that the Democratic supermajority in California has systematically neglected essential services like firefighting and has prioritized policies detrimental to public safety, necessitating federal oversight.
Throughout the episode, several promotional segments intersperse the main discussions, endorsing products and services aligned with the show’s conservative messaging:
Emergency Preparedness: Steve Bannon promotes My Patriot Supply, emphasizing the importance of emergency food storage and preparedness.
"Order by 3pm and your items shipped that same day and arrive quickly on your doorstep in unmarked boxes." — Stephen Bannon [15:00]
Home Title Protection: Bannon advertises Home Title Lock, warning homeowners about cyber scams and title theft.
"Act now to protect your home's equity with triple lock protection from home title lock." — Stephen Bannon [28:11]
Supplement Endorsements: Scott Besson and Mike Cernovich advertise Sacred Human Health supplements, highlighting natural, bioavailable nutrients.
"Beef liver is loaded with highly bioavailable ingredients such as vitamin A, B12, zinc, CoQ10, etc." — Scott Besson [54:02]
Satellite Phones: Chris Hoare discusses the importance of satellite phones in disaster scenarios, offering rental and purchase options.
"A satellite phone is literally a lifeline in every possible way." — Chris Hoare [45:37]
[52:36] – Personal Appeals and Final Blame
Natalie Winters shares a personal narrative about the impact of the wildfires on her family, reiterating her condemnation of Gavin Newsom and Democratic policies:
"Thank you, Joe Biden, and thank you, Gavin Newsom, and thank you, Karen Bass, for allowing me to have a moment where I have to question if the house that I grew up in is still going to be standing..." — Natalie Winters [52:36]
[54:33] – Emphasis on Health and Safety
Steve Bannon closes the episode by urging listeners to take proactive steps in safeguarding their health, promoting War Room Health’s products:
"If you're going to be part of the posse, you need a strong heart. You need a lion's heart." — Stephen Bannon [54:33]
China’s Economic Decline: The episode highlights the CCP’s struggling economy due to unsustainable fiscal policies and strategic currency devaluation aimed at undermining American industries.
California’s Wildfire Crisis: A significant portion of the discussion centers on attributing California’s severe wildfires to mismanagement by Governor Gavin Newsom and the Democratic supermajority, exacerbated by illegal immigration.
Call for Federal Intervention: The hosts advocate for a federal takeover of California’s governance to rectify systemic issues and enforce civil rights, citing constitutional mandates.
Promotion of Preparedness Products: Interwoven with the political discourse are promotional segments encouraging listeners to invest in emergency supplies, home protection services, and health supplements.
Personal Narratives as Evidence: Guests and hosts share personal anecdotes to underscore the real-world impact of the discussed policies, aiming to bridge emotional resonance with their arguments.
"The Chinese Communist Party, anybody's hung on that long and done what they've done to their people and still around, they fall into the category in the worm of tough hombres." — Stephen Bannon [05:46]
"If the Chinese Communist Party are gonna devalue your currency relative to gold, relative to the US dollar, then we are going to impose a tax on everything you send to this country that makes up for the difference." — Scott Besson [10:47]
"The Biden administration quit doing the clearing because they were afraid a fire would happen and they would get blamed." — Mike Cernovich [36:39]
"I want the Trump administration to exercise its constitutional power to come in and fix all the election fraud." — Mike Cernovich [30:07]
Episode 4180 of Bannon’s War Room delivers a vehement critique of California’s current leadership, intertwining local disasters with international economic strategies. The hosts argue that systemic mismanagement, coupled with external economic pressures from China, have culminated in a catastrophic situation for California and, by extension, the United States. Through impassioned discussions and strategic endorsements, the episode underscores a call to action for federal intervention and personal preparedness among listeners.