Episode 4204: Crushing The American Oligarchs; Day 1 Deportations

Summary

Episode Summary: Bannon's War Room - Episode 4204: Crushing The American Oligarchs; Day 1 Deportations

Release Date: January 18, 2025

Overview

In Episode 4204 of Bannon's War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the administration's strategies to dismantle what he terms the "American oligarchs" and outlines the aggressive immigration policies anticipated under the incoming Trump administration. The episode, titled "Crushing The American Oligarchs; Day 1 Deportations," provides a comprehensive analysis of political maneuvers, policy shifts, and the anticipated backlash from various societal sectors.

Key Topics Discussed

1. Preemptive Pardons Under President Biden

   The episode opens with a discussion on President Biden's reported consideration of issuing preemptive pardons to individuals perceived as political adversaries of former President Trump. Simone Sanders expresses support for these pardons, arguing that many of those targeted have "done nothing wrong" and highlighting the moral imperative to protect them from potential abuses of the pardon power by the incoming administration.

   • Notable Quote:
     Simone Sanders [00:12]:
     "They should just take the entire list of 60 people in Patel's book and on the basis of the fact that they're in Patel's book, give them all pardons."

2. The Influence and Downfall of American Oligarchs

   Stephen K. Bannon shifts focus to the concept of American oligarchs, attributing their rise to decades of policy decisions that favored wealth concentration and corporate bailouts. He asserts that the current administration has successfully "broken" these oligarchs, stripping them of their influence and power.

   • Notable Quote:
     Stephen K. Bannon [06:33]:
     "It's obvious you broke them. People with no power, with no money. Because you used your agency."

3. Day 1 Deportations and Immigration Crackdown

   The core of the episode centers on the planned mass deportations set to commence immediately following the inauguration. Todd Bensman, a key guest, elaborates on the administration's strategy to deploy as many as 200 ICE officers to major cities like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and Denver. The aim is to execute highly visible raids targeting undocumented immigrants, particularly those with criminal backgrounds.

   • Notable Quote:
     Todd Bensman [40:34]:
     "President Trump, Tom Homan, and Stephen Miller are going to call his bluff in the first 24 hours. Walk me through it."

   Rachel Maddow contributes by highlighting the unprecedented scale of these deportations, questioning the administration's capacity to follow through on promises of removing "10, 20, 30 million undocumented people."

   • Notable Quote:
     Rachel Maddow [39:07]:
     "Donald Trump's ability to actually execute on the mass deportations he's promised is an open question."

4. Resistance and Public Backlash

   Simone Sanders anticipates significant resistance from communities subjected to these raids, foreseeing households and businesses being raided, families being torn apart, and the establishment of makeshift camps. She stresses the importance of being prepared for any form of backlash that may arise within the first 24 hours of the administration's crackdown.

   • Notable Quote:
     Simone Sanders [03:26]:
     "We should probably count on resistance to those things. We should probably count on, sort of, ready for anything in terms of what that turns into."

5. Bannon's Critique of the Administrative State

   Stephen K. Bannon offers a scathing critique of the current administrative apparatus, accusing it of lacking integrity and being driven by malicious intent. He emphasizes that the Trump administration is not operating in good faith and is instead using the criminal justice system to target political opponents.

   • Notable Quote:
     Stephen K. Bannon [05:51]:
     "You’re not going to stop it. It's going to happen."

6. Future Implications and Strategic Preparations

   Looking forward, Bannon discusses the broader implications of these policies on the nation's financial stability, referencing the imminent debt ceiling crisis and its alignment with the Trump administration's agenda. He urges listeners to stay informed and prepared for potential economic and social upheavals.

   • Notable Quote:
     Stephen K. Bannon [34:56]:
     "The administrative state and the deep state are dug in, and they're dug in hard."

Guest Contributions

• Simone Sanders: Provided insights on the necessity and morality of preemptive pardons, emphasizing protection against abuses of power.

• Todd Bensman: Offered detailed explanations of the planned deportation strategies, highlighting specific actions against defiant cities like Chicago and outlining the broader scope of the administration's immigration crackdown.

• Lawrence O'Donnell: Contributed analysis on President Biden's awareness of the country's precarious state and the imperative for Americans to remain vigilant.

Conclusion

Episode 4204 of Bannon's War Room presents a fervent critique of both the Biden administration's policies and the entrenched oligarchic structures within American society. Through a combination of strategic analysis and impassioned rhetoric, Stephen K. Bannon and his guests outline a vision of robust resistance against perceived governmental overreach and set the stage for the anticipated challenges in the early days of the Trump administration's second term.

Notable Quotes Summary

• Simone Sanders [00:12]: Advocates for blanket pardons to protect against misuse of pardon power.

• Rachel Maddow [39:07]: Questions Trump's capability to execute mass deportations.

• Stephen K. Bannon [05:51]: Asserts the inevitability of administrative actions against political opponents.

• Todd Bensman [40:34]: Details the administration's plan to challenge sanctuary cities like Chicago.

• Stephen K. Bannon [34:56]: Criticizes the entrenched power of the administrative and deep state.

This episode serves as a strategic briefing for listeners who support the Trump administration's agenda, offering both a critique of current policies and a rallying call to combat the influence of oligarchs and enforce stringent immigration measures.

Transcript

[Rachel Maddow]

That President Biden is reportedly considering preemptive pardons of Trump's political enemies, maybe on January 19th or 20th. What's your feeling about that?

[Simone Sanders]

I. I gotta say, I feel like I'm out of step with most of the commentary on this because from the very beginning, from the first time that was first reported, I just felt like, oh, yeah, definitely, you should do that. And I know it's not that simple. And I know that I understand the arguments against, which is, as Biden himself has articulated, like, these people have done nothing wrong. Why do they need a pardon? I also understand, like, oh, if you give these pardons, then that will give you less of a moral leg to stand on for criticizing Trump's abuse of the pardon power. Trump is already very happy abusing the pardon power. Trump gave a pardon to Jared Kushner's dad and now is making him ambassador to France. Like, the idea that Trump is looking for, like, other recent presidents to decide what's morally and politically acceptable on when it comes to pardons is ridiculous. He pardoned Paul Manafort. He, you know, interfered in Roger Stone's sentencing and got Michael Flynn's plea over. I mean, the guy. Anyway, the idea that there's any sort of, like, moral calculus that involves a comparison of Donald Trump to anybody on these things, I just think is not living in reality. And I think that Biden realistically can count on the fact that Trump is not going to act in good faith, that if he's going to put in an attorney general who at the Republican National Convention said, yeah, lock her up, I love that. If he's going to put somebody like Kash Qanon Patel and the head of the FBI who says he's going to abolish the FBI and turn it into a museum of the deep state. I mean, yeah, you're not talking about a good faith cast of characters who's planning on using the criminal justice system in a way that, you know, meets our historical standards for what counts as serious and, well, predicated action. And so, yeah, he should protect people who don't deserve to be abused with that system. And Trump has been. And Patel has been open enough about. They've been open enough about who exactly they're planning on going after. They should just take the Entire list of 60 people in Patel's book and on the basis of the fact that they're in Patel's book, give them all pardons. All the people who Trump has threatened on the campaign trial, give them pardons. You're not dealing with somebody who's looking to you to make, you know, fine morally grained distinctions here about how he's going to use the pardon power based on what you do with it. Just protect people who don't, don't deserve to be destroyed by these people who are promising to do it. I just don't think it's that hard. What do you think about it?

[Lawrence O'Donnell]

What he did in the Oval Office address the other night, what he continuously reiterated in the interview, the excellent interview that Lawrence conducted, is that Joe Biden understands this moment and he wants the American people to understand this moment moment as well. He is not going out, you know, all rainbows and bunnies, as I like to say, and giving a laundry list of all his accomplishments and says, oh, it's going to be all right. He is warning us all that if we do not stand guard, if we do not do something, in the words of, you know, Michelle Obama, this country is going to become something that we do not recognize. And I know some people might say that that's hyperbole. But look around, open your eyes.

[Simone Sanders]

If there are mass deportation efforts and mass anti immigrant raids and they are carried out in the spirit that Stephen Miller and Tom Homan and Donald Trump and J.D. vance have been talking about for the last few months, and those start, as is being reported today in the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere, those start within hours of the inaugural. I think that we are going to see resistance to those things. I think we are going to see communities react to households and businesses being raided and families being torn apart and them trying to build camps to put people in and all of that stuff they say they're going to do, that's going to start, according to recent reporting, within 24 hours of the swearing in. And I think that sort of reactive demonstration we should probably count on. And I think the cities where they are threatening these deportation actions in the first 24 hours, whether it's Chicago or New York or L A or Miami or Denver or wherever else they're going to try. I think there is going to be a local reaction. I don't, I don't know how well organized or visceral it's going to be, but that could potentially be a big deal. And I think that we should be ready again, sort of ready for anything in terms of what that turns into.

[Rachel Maddow]

I agree with you. And I also think the fact that the White House is floating the notion of potential preemptive pardons right now when it's the closing hours of the Biden administration is a pretty good indicator that it's going to happen or that they're quite close to convincing the president. Because otherwise, why confirm it? We'll see that.

[Simone Sanders]

I just, yeah, I mean, I just think like with the January 6th Committee, for example, like, I'm sure there's distinctions between some of those people wanting the pardon and some of them not. Ignore that. Just give them all the same pardon. Give the same pardon to literally everybody who's in Kash Patel's book. To everybody who Trump has singled out on the campaign trail or that members of his campaign have singled out, members of the transition have singled out. Just do it. And yeah, people grind their teeth about it, but it will also prevent those people from being destroyed. Destroyed by a bad faith, incoming administration that's promising to destroy them for political reasons and as an abuse of our criminal justice system. You can protect it with a stroke of a pen. You can protect those people with the stroke of a pen. And I just, I just really think that President Biden should do it. And I hope he does.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.

[Steve Bannon]

You'Re not going to stop it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Dave Brat]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[Steve Bannon]

Country, this country will be saved.

[Dave Brat]

War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's Saturday, the 18th of January in the year of our Lord 2025. You're in the war room on the. I don't know. We got 48 hours. We'll end today. We have 48 hours at new 48 hours until the inauguration of the 47th President of the United States. We would love to sit here and tell you about all the, you know, celebrations. It's all rah rah and everything's great. But we want to give you a reality check of what's going on. Biden, as we've warned about, warned you about for weeks and weeks and weeks, President Biden and that illegitimate regime that's being turfed out right now, they're doing everything possible to set traps for President Trump. Just a random occurrence. Janet Yellen has announced that the debt ceiling will be hit. Wait for it at 9:00 in the morning on Tuesday, the 21st. Isn't that surprising? I'm so shocked. How did that happen with all the possible dates we hit the debt ceiling the very first full day of President Trump's second term. Also, Biden's out with executive orders now, trying to basically thwart everything on the border and immigration. They're still on a tear with the war in Ukraine, the kinetic wars on a tear. And believe me, the ceasefire in Israel and Gaza is 100% the work of President Trump. I understand a lot of people in our audience are not happy with that. A lot of people on the right and Israel are not happy in that they think should be able to finish the job. They should be able to finish the job with Hamas and with the Muslim Brotherhood, right? Correct. But it's still President Trump's work. Biden did nothing on this. There's the pressure of President Trump on BB Netanyahu to say, hey, we got get. So we got to get these hostages exchanged. You got to have a ceasefire. At least we got to get some order over there. Everywhere you look, on every one of the verticals we've talked about on the ending the kinetic part of the Third World War, on taking care of the debt and the, and the deficit and all the problems we have there, from how Biden did this to the, the deportation of, I don't know, 15 million illegal alien invaders. Let's say it's 12. Who knows? It's a massive number. It's going to take years and cost a lot of money. And Biden's not going to help. They're going to be in your face. It was announced Todd Benson is going to be. In little while. It was announced we're going to have a ICE raid in the city of Chicago. So President Trump's going to sit there right now. The mayor of Chicago is going to say, I'm a sanctuary city and you're not going to take any illegal aliens out of here. Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are saying, well, okay, let's just get it done. Let's go ahead and vet that right now right at the top. And. And they're going to do it now. They leaked it to the Wall Street Journal. I don't know why they did that, but they did it. So it's public information now. Bensman is going to join us also the Catholic Church to make sure that the fake Pope has got his hand in this. He's announced he's Put for one of the most radical cardinals to be the senior cardinal in the Archdiocese of Washington D.C. right. I think it's McElroy and he is an open borders anti deportation. They're doing that so that this radical left wing group that runs the Catholic Church today can have which by the way there's going to be a criminal investigation of the invasion on the southern border. A massive criminal investigation on the invasion of the southern border. And when you see that the Catholic Charities are going to be wrapped up in that. Right. Are going to be wrapped up in that. So we'll get to see all that. The we'll get to see all that later with John. Yepp's going to join us and hopefully get Liz Yorr to join us too. So we're going to have, we're going to confront that today across the board. Everywhere you see there's a resistance now where you didn't see the resistance, where they had a chance to have the resistance was this week at the cabinet secretaries, the confirmation hearings. Remember the pre game or the preamble to Days of Thunder. What did they do? You had Marco Rubio, Senator Rubio sat there and said we've got the end of the rules based order. The end of that. We're seeing the end of the rules based order and quite frankly the system was gamed. It doesn't work for the United States is underwriting. We're going to do away with that. Democrats crickets. You had Pete Hex to say we're going to have a revolution in military affairs. Younger officers are going to run this. We're going to, we're going to reinstall into the Pentagon, into our forces the warrior ethos and how to win wars, not to have these forever wars. So the defense contractors make out and everybody else, everybody else ends up in either section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery or in a VA hospital or somehow you know, homeless on the side of the road or 26 veterans a day with PTSD. We're finished. That pushback by the Democrats. Not one, I don't know the harridans on the female senators went after him for his personal foibles. Right? Nothing about any deep issues. Don't believe me. David Birx of the New York Times goes after basically the Democratic Party for not really laying a glove on hexa on anything policy. You had Kristi Noem yesterday. They gave up at the end of it. The senators weren't even there. Krissi Noem with everything we have, everything that's going on with deportations, everything that's going on with immigration, everything that's going on, the security of the border, a couple of feckless questions and then nothing. Scott Besson and Russ Vogt lay out the president's economic plan pretty succinctly about spending, about taxes, about tariffs. You had some yammering by Wyden asking, you know, like some questions you would ask as a freshman in an economics course to a professor about, hey, tell me, I don't understand how this works. Are trying to say how it works. It didn't work. Why didn't from Oregon look terrible? So you've just got consistently across the board. Pam Bondi gives her theory of the case for, you know, for how she's going to run the Justice Department, how she's going to de. Weaponize the Justice Department. How are you going to stop. How she's going to stop the weaponization of the Justice Department against, I don't know, 70 year old women who are now in federal prison for praying the Rosie Outside of abortion mills, I think there's 26. We'll get this. There's been a petition to President Trump, 26 folks who prayed in front of abortion centers now in federal prison. Many of those people in their late 60s, early 70s. Or how about the intimidation of parents at school board meetings or the conservative traditional Catholics, right? The FBI, the Justice Department. She lays out the whole case for two days. Nothing. Nothing but crickets. What they're asking her, is the 2020 election legitimate? Is the 2020 election? And she answered over and over and over again, hey, Biden's president, deal with it. We'll give him the short answer. Biden is illegitimate, okay? Very well known he's illegitimate. It's one of the reasons the American people turfed him out, because two thirds of the Republican Party now think he's illegitimate. Stole the election. I don't know. 50% of independents, 20, 25% Democrats. The Biden regime is going out like they came in with no class. No class. What they did the first day is they undid all the executive orders that President Trump had that allowed him to have control of the border and make the United States of America a sovereign nation that responds to and supports its citizens. Not illegal alien invaders, not particularly. 12 to 15 million all over D.C. right now. The game's being played. I got a notice for the Biden regime. Days of thunder means days of thunder. Get your bags packed because you're leaving, all of you. Thousands of you are going to be turfed out right after noon on Monday from US Attorneys to guys on boards. You're all gone. So get your bags packed. If you stick around, I hope you face criminal charges. People have had enough of this. You know, you lost. You got blown out. You had every chance. You created the oligarchs. The oligarchs are talking about created on your watch. You were the ones that bailed out Silicon Valley bank, not President Trump. We had no power for four years. You had all the power. You created the oligarchs to suppress the MAGA movement. And guess what? You lost. And now all you're doing, instead of a peaceful transfer, you're fighting and fighting and fighting. It's not, not acceptable. We're going to go through that in a spirit of celebration here in the war room. Short break.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Welcome back. You have worked so hard for years in the Trump first term, but the second term, remember, remember the 20th of January. Make sure it's emblazoned on your soul. 20-01-2021. When President Trump went to Andrews Air Force Base, nobody went with him. There's no big farewell. They wanted to get rid of him. They never, ever, ever, ever thought in 1 billion years that he would return four years later having swept everything and having kind of ultimate full spectrum dominance power. As we talk about, although the margins are small, we know that but he's changed the mindset of the country. You can already tell that. We would love to be able to celebrate that. But here in the war room, we celebrate that by making sure that his most battle hardened people are ready to go and ready to roll. Because you can tell behind the scenes all they're trying to do is resist and stop. President Trump on his first, on his first, you know, first hundred days, which will set the template or the tone of this, of this second term. Everything the Biden regime is doing, everything in every area, is to thwart President Trump and President Trump's policies. The thing that's kind of most egregious, not the most egregious, but it's offensive. Say it's offensive. Is Biden on his farewell address to the nation. I mean, why is he even giving a farewell address? He went up to the Defense Department, gave her a farewell address. Like they care. He should go over to Section 60 at Arlington and that is where the warriors from the Iraq and Afghan war are buried in that section of Arlington National Cemetery. And he should address them. And particularly the 13 that he essentially had murdered. And that's what they were killed in the line of duty in Afghanistan, that debac over retreat. But everything he's doing, address the nation, it's like Washington's address to the nation, his federal address, Eisenhower's. Are you kidding me? And MSNBC makes it, and NBC makes such a big deal about this and then have that embarrassing interview with him afterwards. His ratings are in the 20s. People just want him gone. And on one level, they're finishing with a whimper. On another level, they are working everywhere to stop this. And I think President Trump and his team have just had enough of it. And to know the good job that President Trump's team's doing. Just look at last week on the confirmation errors. Remember, we were all over, we're cutting back and forth this bang, bang, bang. It turned out they didn't lay a glove on anybody. All those people last week are getting confirmed. Did the Democrats think that going in? This also reinforced the fact we should have never given up on Gates and more importantly, we shouldn't let Gates give up on himself. Gaetz would have been the Attorney general. Pam's going to be great. But Gates, Gates puts fear into the apparatus. He would have been the Attorney General. They're not stopping Trump now. You can tell there's not even any intellectual firepower to come back on. So what do they have to do? Oh, it's oligarchs. All these Oligarchs. Oligarchs. Oligarchs. Stop. Just stop. Stop. Just stop. We've had no power. None. Zero. President Trump was a contender for no power. We have no control of anything. You got Johnson up there, but we have no power. MAGA has no power. 0. The oligarchs are a creation of the Biden regime, a creation. Now, when did it start? It started with the bailouts of in 2008. We're still trying to recover from the solutions to the 2008 problem. The problem was bad enough created by Bush and Congress. The solutions done by Obama and Congress. The solutions were terrible because that really led to the greatest concentration of wealth in the nation's history. The way we bailed out the insurance companies, the banks and the investment banks, we bailed them out. I think they put $5 trillion, 5 trillion. The Federal Reserve pumped $5 trillion, 5 or 6 trillion dollars real money at the time into the system to save the system. Did you get a ballot? No, you did not? Did African Americans, Hispanics have bought the houses. Right? That might have been a little bit outside their grasp. They get a ballot? No, they got zeroed out and blown out. Okay. It's the way the system works. And Obama, the big progressive, he did it. Geithner, the reason he did it, he didn't know enough about it. He was kind of a babe in the woods. Don't trust me? Read the books at the time, Susskind's book, Confidence Man. It shows you Obama's kind of wandering around. Constitutional lawyer. You're in the middle of a financial meltdown. You don't need to. You know the Constitution. You can check it. It's a contract. I got it. I know what I got to do. But it's the bailout that is the most important thing. He didn't know what he was doing, so he bailed out the wealthy, led to the greatest concentration of wealth and power in this nation. And then Biden comes in after President Trump had to deal with that. And all those oligarchs were shutting us down the entire time in the first term. Remember? Because we caught him sleeping in 16, particularly Facebook and were able to use Facebook like it was supposed to be used. And they all, after that, went down and shut it down. This show, hey, we are permanently banned everywhere. You don't hear me on this show whining about that. I don't give a tinker's damn about that. I do not. This shows the second biggest political podcast in the country on politics, because the content people like and people share the content. I'm a populist. I'm not going to kowtow to Zuckerberg. He's a criminal. Bezos, he's a weirdo. Musk. No, not going to do it. Google those guys. They're beauts. No, YouTube banned forever. Big deal. Could care less. But this thing of oligarchs, for President Trump, it's a surrender ceremony. They're not there to exert their power. We broke them. More importantly, you broke them. They were against Trump from the beginning. We were banned everywhere. Trump was banned everywhere. Everywhere. What you see with Zuckerberg running down with his little million dollar check. Please, please, please. You know why he doesn't want a criminal investigation? Brother, you're going to get one. You're going to get one because you deserve it. We got to get to the bomb of 2020. People say, oh, Steve, you got to look forward. Hey, we are looking for it. President Trump's looking forward to the sunlit uplands. That's what he's working on. Peace and prosperity. But there's some of the work that's got to take place. It just has to. We can walk and chew gum. We're a big country. We're a hegemon right now. Still, hegemons can do a couple of three things. They created the oligarchs and we broke the oligarchs. That is what this story is about. And now they're freaked out. The reason they're turning on them is because the oligarchs have surrendered. The oligarchs surrendered. That's why they're turning on them. It's obvious you broke them. People with no power, with no money. Because you used your agency. And collectively, you had the back of a guy who sat there and had the moral courage to say, guess what? I'm going to come back and do this. You had his back. Why were we in East Palestine yesterday? One to hear the problems haven't been solved. But that's the inflection point of this campaign. When Trump went to East Palestine and nobody else did, and nobody else could. Oh, excuse me. They sent Pete Buttigieg. That's a beauty. Put his goggles on, looked like some third grader for the first day of school. Or looked like, you know, come dress as what you want to be. Wow. I want to be a working man. Put a vest on, a goofy helmet and a set of goggles. Are you kidding me? That's going to go out against President Trump. That's called nerd rule. That's what we had during the pandemic with Fauci and all these guys on tv, you know, all the experts, all the people in white coats on msnbc, we've had nerd rule. During the pandemic of Biden, we've had nerd rule by the oligarchs. They turned the power to the oligarchs. And guess what? You everyday Americans with common sense, grit, determination, you broke them and you had an instrument to break them. It's called Donald Trump, who not only showed the moral courage to come back, but then showed the physical courage when they tried to assassinate him to get up on the stage and said, what were his words? Surrender. What was his words? Let's have unity. What was his words? And let me think, let me think. Oh, yeah, I remember. Fight, fight, fight. As he's bleeding, shot in the side of the head. Only by the grace of God did he not take a bullet in the temple. And they're here today, the opposition. Don't think they're just going to toss you that high noon. They're just going to toss you the keys and say, hey, guess what? We gave it a shot. The four years didn't work out. We'll get you next time. No, no, no, it doesn't work. The administrative state and the deep state are dug in, and they're dug in hard. Okay? And Biden, these guys. Biden's leaving because he's. I don't know, he's not fully with the program. You can tell that. But they got many. They got ranks and ranks and ranks of these guys. Dave. Brat, before we go to break, put this in perspective. Todd Benson is going to join us about Chicago. We got John. Yep. About the Catholics trying to get in here. I shouldn't say the Catholics, not the traditional Catholics, but the fake Pope and his crowd trying to get in here. Brett, what do you got for me?

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, what I got is your whole discussion about oligarchs. The big framing narrative is the Judeo Christian West. And people say, why do you gotta go there all the time, Dave? Because none of the oligarchs, and especially Soros, doesn't fit within that narrative.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

If you'll notice, everything we love in this country, the populist movement, the nationalism, go. Has framed three orders, right? The nation state, and then the church and the synagogue and then the family, all of those are being ripped apart. They fit in with the war room. Three issues. They've torn apart the economy and the debt and the deficits. They're tearing apart our financial system. And the lives of the bottom half of this country, they're tearing apart the border. All of this is biblical, right? Joseph, if you haven't read the Old Testament, he was the manager of the grain. And people had to be disciplined over the long run because there's seven good years and seven bad years, right? We got some bad years coming likely.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

The third issue of course is war. And so these oligarchs, they do not fit within the Judeo Christian West. Which one of them has mentioned God and God's order of things? None. If that strikes you as odd. It's also Rubio very good comments. In his testimony he brought up Soros and he brought up his book and his mentor Karl Popper. Logical positivism, that school of thought. If you don't know that, go look it up. But Milton Friedman studied that stuff and tried to square the circle and he couldn't because he was trying to reduce everything to just the empirical realm. That whole project. The Post World War II liberal order, the open society. How can you be against that? Very easily. Because Soros does not believe in the open society and he does not believe in you and he does not believe in freedom. And he just won the Freedom medal from the President United States. It's an outrage. Right? The last thing he believes is in letting you dictate the future of your own country. He's, he's opposed to freedom and he's opposed to the Judeo Christian West.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yep. Hang on for a second. Brother Brad, you're gonna stick with the co host all morning. Benson's gonna join us. John. Yep's gonna join us. Ben Harnwell. We got a lot to go through. It's a working Saturday here in the World War Room on inauguration weekend. Days of thunder are ahead. Already had a pretty good preamble on that. Pretty good pre, pregame, Short break. Back in a moment.

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[Rachel Maddow]

An American oligarchy. I think it's an. It's an incredibly important. I mean, the choices he's made in these final days should leave no doubt in anyone's mind that it's as dire as people have been warning.

[Lawrence O'Donnell]

Absolutely. And you know, to be clear, that is not how Joe Biden talks. You know, anyone who knows the president, he doesn't. He doesn't speak like that. This is not a speech, frankly, that he had been. He had given before and that anyone. Just take a look at what he has said that should let you know that he understands this moment. The president is someone who believes in the institutions, Right. He talked about with the interview with Lawrence when he. Why he, you know, got into public service in the first place. He started as a county councilman and then became the youngest person ever elected to United States Senate at one point in time. Then obviously vice president and now President. Joe Biden is someone that even when we worked for him and we would say, you know, I would get into very spirited battles, if you will, with the president when I worked for him on the campaign trail in 2020, because Joe Biden would say, you know, this is. It would sound sometimes that he is talking about a Congress and a way of life and politics that no longer exists. And for all of us, even people that worked for him, that doubted him.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Simone, good try, good try, good try. Let me repeat this. And we're gonna. This is information war and narrative war. They created the oligarchs. They created the oligarchs in the social media because it worked for them. For state control, state power. To suppress you, your voice. Yes. Suppress Trump as the head of our movement, but also to suppress every. At every step. How many of you deplatformed? How many? A lot. Particularly if you want to talk about, I don't know, the vaccine, the COVID mandates, the mask mandates the election. Anything that was interesting to you. And guess what. That you're right on 100%. Wuhan lab. Remember Wuhan lab. Think of what you were suppressed for. The drag queen story hours, right? What? The pornography they're putting in the schools. Just go through FBI then doing raids. All working in Conjunction. They created the oligarchs because it worked for them. Never in a billion years do they ever think we would win. Now they're turning on their own. This is fine. It's perfect. It's great. Rachel, we're going to show you how to deal with oligarchs. Could it be some, you know, inner squad scrimmage on our side of the football? Maybe you've seen a little of this so far. It's fine. This is what it is. It's all a process. It's all a process. That's what they don't understand, Brett, now they're coming. Their new take this morning is War Room and Bannon are going to be beaten from the right. Somebody's gonna get to the right of the War Room and the War Room Posse and this what their thing is. Oh, the libertarians, the crypto guys. And the crypto. Because the crypto guys had a big ball here last night and you know, Elon Musk that we're going to be, they're going to, they're going to get us from the right. Dave, Brett, your thoughts on that?

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, no, I mean, they own the ink, right? They own the papers. So they're trying to set the new narrative. They're going to fail spectacularly because of this show is putting information out for the War Room Posse and it's spreading across the country. I'm traveling across the country and these messages, Trump's messages, the RN see platform messages spreading like wildfire. Everybody knows you've been lied to. You just went through the whole list. I mean, they just assaulted. The left wants to take down the country. They wanna take down every major institution. And so now they're framing this, you know, this new we're at war with the right. They're calling the oligarchs the right because the oligarchs are kind of like the old Paul Ryan country club Republicans, right? So they're the rich guys that controlled the apparatus for 30 or 40 years and ruined our party and our connection with the people. Well, now we have black, brown, blue collar Hispanic folks coming our way. And we are given a message that resonates, right, with that RR Reno book, the return of the strong gods that Russ Vogt pushes and that you just heard Senator Rubio pushing in his confirmation heroes. They have tried to strip us of everything we love and this new open society, liberal rules based order. There's nothing you love, right? There's nothing that binds the people together, that attaches us together as citizens and brothers and sisters in Faith even higher. The country is yearning for that. Right. I'm at Liberty University. Let me tell you, when I go out on the road, people are yearning for us to take a leadership position in the world again because they know that narrative is the narrative of the past 4,000 years, 2,000 years of Christianity. All of our institutions used to fit within that narrative. Rachel Maddow is interesting. I've never heard of any of this kind of thing. Well, yeah, shocker, Rachel. You haven't heard of anything that fits within the Judeo Christian west because you're trying to tear it all apart. And so that's the great debate. Every issue fits underneath that paradigm.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Rachel Maddow]

The Wall Street Journal is reporting tonight that the administration, the incoming Trump administration, is planning to start large scale deportations on Tuesday, deploying as many as 200 ICE officers to Chicago. I just want to say, just for people who don't, aren't familiar with the number of officers it takes to take to engage in large scale raids, 200 officers seems like a lot, but I mean, Marco Rubio saying they want to deport 10, 20, 30 million undocumented people from this country. That will require a redeployment of federal officers, the scale of which we have not seen in my lifetime. You know, so there, I think there's, there's also the truism of the Trump years, which is, you know, there is a lot of talk that is very pitched and it is intended to invoke fear and oftentimes it's quite successful. And it's not to minimize those affected by a 200 person ICE raid in the city of Chicago. But Donald Trump's ability to, ability to actually execute on the mass deportations he's promised is an open question. And I think within that there is a lot of opportunity for resistance. The kind of which you just outlined, Rachel.

[Simone Sanders]

Yeah, and I think he's also picking a fight. I mean, I think that there's a reason.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, picking a fight. Todd Benzeman, he's very specific. The mayor in Chicago has been adamant about being a sanctuary city. President Trump, Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are going to call his bluff in the first 24 hours. Walk me through it.

[Todd Bensman]

Well, they're feuding. The mayor of Chicago is saying out loud over and over again, we're going to protect criminal aliens from you. We're going to preserve their presence among our people. We're gonna inflict them on our people. And Homan's saying, yeah, well, we may just arrest you because that's a crime. You can't get in the way of law enforcement operations. And so it's tit for tat like that. And Homan's saying, the first place I'm going to be on day one is Chicago, which is just sort of a way of telling them that, you know, we are going to overwhelm you. We are not going to be dissuaded by your sanctuary policies, your criminal alien protection policies, because that's what it is. Just so you know, sanctuary policy is primarily the central pillar of it is local law enforcement is not going to tell ICE when a criminal alien is getting out of jail or prison so that they can come pick them up and deport them, which is outrageous. I'll never understand how an elected official could choose that and say it out loud over and over again proudly. We're going to inflict.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, hang on. Before we go to break. Before we go to break. Why should this. Give it to me in 60 seconds. We got a big country. You got 12 to 15 million. You know, you got the border states, you got Texas, Arizona. Why you got New York City, you got San Francisco, Louisiana. Why Chicago?

[Todd Bensman]

Chicago is just one of the. That's where you're going to see Homan probably. But they're hitting all of those at the same time. You're going to see la, you're going to see New York, Denver, probably Boston. It's going to be a whole, it's not just 200 in Chicago, it's going to be hundreds more in all these other cities. So they're going to be raids and roundups and they're designed to be highly visible because messaging is important regardless of how many they actually and in fact, I'm thinking that most of those who are criminal aliens are on the run right now looking to hide from this. But it doesn't matter how many ultimately they pick up because the raids matter to the rest of the world down trail. When they start to close the border, they need people down there to stop in place, shelter in place, turn around and go home because of what they're seeing in Chicago.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on for one second, Todd. I'm gonna hold you through the break and get back to you. Todd Bensman's with us from cis. Dave, Brett, hometitlelock.com we need you at the ramparts. You did a great job last week in supporting the cabinet nominees. Hometitlelock.com Bannon check it out.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, welcome back, Todd. Look, here's, here's where I got a problem. I shouldn't say a problem. I'll say an issue. I want to bring up an issue for the audience because you read the article in the Wall Street Journal. It's leaked to the Wall Street Journal. It's for people familiar with the plan. That would be. Did it sound like administration people? It could be people in the administrative state, one or the other. What do you think happened here? Do you think this leak came from President Trump and his team or is it the administrative state? And I keep telling folks, hey, President Trump, this is why it's not really. It's a celebratory mood in the city from maga. And now you've got hundreds of thousands of MAGA coming in with nothing to do. That's another issue. We got the strongest MAGA guys. Here's what's breaking my heart. These people are spending their vacation money for the year to come here and where you should know. And I'm going to work over the weekend with Rob Sig and Jack Bosobic. We're going to figure out something to have a participatory. Somehow we got to do something. So we'll figure it out. But there's not open arm. This city is quite sullen. It's not just the cold weather. It's gray every day and foggy. It's not simply the weather. The administrative state is sullen. There was a leak last night and it was not true that, hey, the thing may be moved to the White House. Remember that I think was up on Gateway pundit because the local police were not working. Okay, that was fake news. However, they're not welcoming here with open arms. President Trump, it's a very sullen city, the imperial capital because they heard the words of Marco Rubio on Tuesday. Marco says we're done. We're out of this empire building. It's done. It's over. The forever wars are over. They're done. This is no longer going to be the central headquarters of the post war international rules based order. It's going to be different. It's going to work for the American people. And so this entire apparatus that has been built for 60 and 70 years and the boutiques and the homes and you come here, it's like Paris. It's not like Paris. Well, the layout is like Paris and you're going to join. It ain't like Paris that the folks, the working class in the war room, pasta, you can't come because you can't get into the boutiques, you can't get in the restaurants. But they treat Trump and his people like that. The senior people. They're not happy we won. Did you notice that? Have you noticed that? Have you noticed? You know, Rachel, and these guys are not static. They get the long face, the sad face as Biden finishes with a whimper. And they're doing everything possible to stop President Trump in his first hundred days to put up every barricade, chop block, do everything, every sneaky thing over and over. And they're not here welcoming us. So the leak could have come from the Ministry of State or could have come from people in the administration to give them a heads up. But whatever's happening, Todd Benzeman, they're going to Chicago for a reason. And this reason, I think in my own simple mind, that's that big mouth mayor that is thrown down and said, trump, I don't care what you did, I don't care. I'm the mayor, I'm the king of Chicago. I'm a sanctuary city, you know, come and get it. And Trump sending Homan out there to say, go get it. I'm President of these United States and he's a mayor of Chicago. We're going to have a standoff. We're going to have a showdown right now and a throwdown. Your thoughts?

[Todd Bensman]

Well, the context is, you know, look at New York, Eric Adams, you know, he's capitulating on protecting illegal criminal aliens on that issue. They're having, you know, nice talks and they're all, you know, friendly to each other. And same thing is happening in some of the other major blue sanctuary cities. There's this threat about we're going to pull grant money, federal grant money. There's threats of arrests of officials, sitting officials. And here you've got this one mayor in Chicago who's defiant, a defiant rebel holdout. And I think maybe part of the reason why Homan promised out loud A couple weeks ago, on day one. I'm gonna be in Chicago. You can count on it. And if you don't like it, come and get me. I think that's partly to sort of get the rest of them in line to make an example to overcome that guy. And by the way, Pritzker's. Even the governor is starting to make conciliatory sounds, although he's still kind of holdoutish as well. But he is making some conciliatory noises.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He's running for president. Hold it, hang on. He's running for president? 2028. Pritzker is 100%. So he's definitely. He sees where the country is. Right. Before I let you go, Todd, and I want everybody to go to your writings because you're reporting on this for the last four years is one of the reasons we won. I hear this phrase over and over again. Illegal, criminal alien. Okay, I got it. The interpretation. Those are guys serious crime, the Lake and Riley thing, others. But to me, everybody across that border is an illegal criminal alien, and they all got to go. I know we're starting with the bad guys, but. And I realize that maybe, you know, Murdoch's putting out polls in the Wall Street Journal. Someone. Oh, we want. We want MAGA light. No, Murdoch, you gun decked. You didn't ask MAGA and you certainly didn't ask Republicans. We ain't looking for light. We're looking for heavy. Understand what the Wall Street Journal wants. Understand what the. The neocon, neoliberal apparatus, the Washington census wants. That's not what we want. We don't. Whatever the Wall Street Journal wants, we want the opposite. How about that? We'll keep it simple. Todd, before we let you go, what's your thoughts on that? Is it going to stop with. And by the way, just to get the criminal aliens at the bad guys is going to be a herculean effort. I understand that, but is that where this stops, sir?

[Todd Bensman]

No, of course not. They are going to be going after as well, illegal aliens who have removal orders on them. And there are a lot of them, 1.4 million at least. And they know where they are. Most of them they have. And all the rest. So criminal aliens and the ones that are allowed to walk around with removal orders on them, they'll be going after them. The criminal aliens are probably running and hiding right now, by the way, so don't be. I'm going to manage expectations down a little bit. That's maybe with leaking things because you're. But it's just the opening. There's going to be rolling raids that just go on for the next four years. ISIS is unchained now. And one other last thing if I can just mention about Chicago, I just back from Chicago, I was there for a week writing about the very first terror attack charged legally charged terror attack against a illegal immigrant. And you'll hear Homan talk a lot about this is a national security threat. We've got to roll up these national security threats. Special interest aliens, that guy was a Mauritanian attacked the Jewish community there. And don't be surprised if you hear a lot about that as well. Justifications for this we got a where.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Do people over the weekend keep up with you on social media? Where do they get your writings?

[Todd Bensman]

Yeah, at Bensman Todd on X. I'm on truth social getter todd bensman.com I work for CIS center for Immigration Studies and all my work is there too.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You're magnificent brother. Thank you for doing this on a Saturday morning. Todd Bensven thank you. One of the greats. Okay, the right stuff. That's what this audience has. The right stuff. That's how you turfed out Biden and broke the oligarchs. Short Commercial break 90 seconds. Be back in a moment. For the second hour, I want to.

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