Ben Harnwell (4:42)

Good morning, Steve. Well, it's not good news for the war room posse and I'm going to go straight into the killer line here because the proposal said and it's basically The Kellogg Plan, Lt. Gen. Kellogg's Plan that's been leaked to the press over the last four weeks or so. There are some interesting things, however, in this that I haven't read elsewhere, and I'll go into those in just a moment, but the war room posse's going to want to know where the meat is. Why I don't like this. Why I would vote down. Vote this. If I had a vote on this, it would be a vote down straight away. Because the key point here for Americans is that Ukraine would continue to receive military support from the US and that, I think, is something that's going to be offensive to a lot of people who were listening to you talking just earlier on in the show. The American economy is bleeding out and there is no money for this. And yet the money. You're going to see more budget lines, more budget arguments over coming months and years to get this military support to Ukraine.

Steve Bannon (5:45)

Okay, but, but let's talk, but let's. Hang on, hang on. Let's talk about the process that they're talking about. They say immediate cease fire by April 15th. Then the beginnings of a negotiated deal by, I think maybe they talk about a security guarantee, American money, but they don't mention any American troops. So it's April 15th for a seizure. I'm just trying to repeat what the press is telling them. They've clearly seen the American plan or the discussions of Kellogg and other people. So it's April for a ceasefire, is that it? And then May for a more general framework of an agreement.

Ben Harnwell (6:21)

Formally, it's April 20 for the declaration of the ceasefire. And in the preceding weeks, there were supposed to be phone calls between the White House and President Putin and the White House and President Zelensky to get to that declaration of ceasefire. And then before May 9, after the ceasefire, there'll be an international peace conference which is going to hammer out the terms of the treaty, the peace treaty. And that text should be released around May 9. Now, here are the interesting things. Steve, you asked about the process. What's in here? There are some. The war impossible will be interested in in some of the things I think General Kellogg is pushing here. For example, right after May 9, Kiev would be asked not to extend martial law or to mobilize any further troops. Now, if you're saying, hang on, hang on, why would the Americans be pushing that? What's the importance of martial law? Well, the first thing you're going to think about is, is that under the present constitution that goes back to the 90s, you can't have any elections in Ukraine under martial law. We know this. We've discussed this hundreds of times. And if you're thinking, well, you know, are the Americans here maneuvering something so to have elections in Ukraine, if that was your suspicion, you might be interested to read something else that is here in these proposals, that Kiev, under the terms of this agreement, would have to be allowed parties advocating for peace with Russia to run in those elections. And of course, those parties have all been prohibited for the last three years. So it seems to me very likely that one of the aspects of this. And by the way, President Zelensky, his office has said this is not a valid peace proposal that they've received on the Americans. It's been created probably by the Russians to destabilize the situation. I can't particularly see Ukraine going for this because it gives Russia everything it wants, specifically in terms of the Donbass. And some people are referring to buffer zones. It's not buffer zones. It's quite clear that Ukraine would officially recognize the sovereignty of Russia in. In those zones, which is pretty much the gold mission accomplished from. From the Russian point of view.

Steve Bannon (8:42)

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Whoa, whoa, slow down. The buffer zones, because remember, this is a paper that goes Ukrainian. Essentially what this thing says is they're going to partition Ukraine. I hate to use such a harsh term, but Ukraine would be, according to this, would end up being partitioned, not just the Donbas, but potentially other areas where Russian army. And this is the Ukrainians moving back from Kursk. Right. Their incursion there. But other parts of Ukrainian territory looks like it would be partitioned under Russian control. Am I reading that correctly, sir?

Ben Harnwell (9:20)

Look, I think it goes further than that, because when you hear about partition, perhaps you think of Berlin, perhaps you think of the division between the demilitarized zone, between North Korea, South Korea. This is from my understanding of this supposedly leaked text, which what it's actually doing is it's handing those areas that Russia controls officially over to Russia. They would become part of the Russian Federation. And I think that goes further than what is ordinarily understood by partitioning some of the alternative plans. Right? Not the Kellogg plan. You had the Vance plan and you had the Rick Grinnell plan. Those would be more like what JD Vance had asked for suggested was a demilitarized zone. And what Grinnell had suggested was autonomous zones. Now, that could have, if you found a way, a mechanism to recognize that in international law, that would be more partition territory. This is just giving. This is giving it to Russia, this proposal.

Steve Bannon (10:26)

But Hang on in this, in this proposal, what's out? It's like what was the Boris Johnson, as we said in war room on the evening before the war started? What's the purpose? It's not just Donbas and Crimea is gone, which they Zelensky swore up and down they never happen. But correct me if I'm wrong and I'm just reading it like any other Schmendrick, but it's it looks like other territories at the historically where the Russian army goes, they kind of stay for a while like in Eastern Europe, I don't know, for 50 years until the fall of the Berlin Wall. And I don't care how many Czech revolts and how many Hungarian revolts you had. They were there until the Berlin Wall till Ronald Reagan took it down. The Russian army has been in this place and it looks like according to this, that they may not keep all of it. They're going to keep a lot more than the Donbas and the Crimea. Do you agree with that, Ben Harnwell, as you read this.

Ben Harnwell (11:21)

Yeah, the Russians would have everything I repeat the point that according to my reading of this, and it's in quotation marks that Ukraine would officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over those occupied territories. So that that would be shifting the border effectively eastwards.

Steve Bannon (11:41)

So McConnell and all the I just want to make sure I'm going to rub no, I'm going to put salt in another wound for the they sat there and took a quarter of a trillion dollars of your money, $250 billion that we've had no accounting for. And trust me, those oligarchs and that crook Zelensky were stealing with both hands. You got a million this according to President Trump. You got a million dead or wounded Ukrainians. You got 700,000, 750,000 dead or wounded Russians. So at a million seven dead or wounded, the place looks like Dresden. And now you're in a situation that you get a worse deal than we told you you would, you get a worse deal with the Russians. What was it worth? Do you wonder you understand why the parents of the 18 to 26 year olds have said over my dead body you've taken my son to go to that front because this is where we are. This catastrophe is exactly like Mearsheimer said it just like repeated by Rahim Gassam and Ben Harnwell and Stephen K. Bannon on this show and Jack Bosobic for three years. This is an outrage this. And by the way, it's probably the best deal they can get as we said, this was all for nothing except for the arm manufacturers and Victoria Newland Kagan. And to cover up whatever in the hell's been. I said this. And folks, it's going to happen. When you lance the boil that is Ukraine, there going to be some pus coming out of there. Hey, Fauci, all these, all these, all these pardons don't go back to 2014. You see, a connected dot is when Raheem Kassam was over there for Breitbart, London, for the color revolution. It all goes back to. That's a railhead of a lot of filth and we're going to get to the bottom of it. The people that are guilty of this crime and they're war criminals are the people in Brussels, in NATO, in the European Union, in Washington D.C. in the Atlantic magazine, MSNBC. Where's all your cheerleading now? How come you're not talking about this article? You people are revolting. You did exactly what Mersheimer said. You're going to lead the Ukrainian people down the primrose path till it gets too tough for you, and then you're going to abandon them because you're already fighting. You've already fought until the last Ukrainians dead. Ben, I gotta bounce. Where do people go? We'll get you back on. Not tonight. Tomorrow. Give me your. Give me your. We'll do more work on this. This is revolting. This is a disgrace and anybody associated with it ought to be turfed out. What's your, what's your social media been on?

Ben Harnwell (14:18)

Get to Steve. Simply my surname, Hanwha. Two very, very essential points also in this, in this treaty will be the consideration of the reconstruction of Ukraine. What we've called on this show, the mother of all grits, which will be largely handed over to the EU that I have to for this point. Donald Trump, however, if they call his bluff, he's on this conveyor belt now. He's not going to get off this. If he follows this down, if Russia or China or, or even Zelensky call his bluff, he's going all the way in on this.

Steve Bannon (14:46)

Yeah. No, he won't. He's going to stand tall on this. He has nothing to do with this. His hands are clean. Clean. Short.

Frank Gaffney (14:57)

America's heart.

Steve Bannon (15:00)

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Natalie Winters (16:56)

Yeah, I don't exactly think all the people that you were just outlining who need to have what criminal charges and referrals, the people that I'm about 50ft away from are necessarily too happy that the war Room now has me being obviously a voice, not just in terms of asking questions, but I think sort of observing the, the mainstream press corps and what they're doing here in the room where it's happening, of course, with the first press briefing with none other than Caroline Levitt happening today at 1pm but until then, you can see I think this probably has to be the most epic background that I've ever had. And I have to say, Steve, just on a personal note of reflection, you were just talking about, you know, Professor Mearsheimer, who is someone that I had while I was a student at the University of Chicago. And I look how far I've come. You've come, the show has come, but most importantly, this audience has come. I'm so honored and privileged to be standing here as War Room's new White House correspondent. But this is a ability and privilege that I have only because of this audience. And I don't just mean because the president loves them. And obviously the press office was instrumental in getting me in here. But they know that this audience is the audience that moves the needle, and that's why they want War Room myself here in the room where it's happening. More importantly, I think to cover what the mainstream press is doing, the resistance, opposition, however they want to term it. But I think this is a really, really consequential and important day for War Room. When you just look behind me, you can see how far we've come. So thank you from. From the bottom of my heart. This is really cool, still surreal, and I'm kind of taking it all in.

Steve Bannon (18:22)

You started with us, really, with National Pulse. Raheem was the co. Remember, we start with Jason Miller. And Raheem, Jason Miller, the comms director and strategist for the campaign. Jason's going to stay on the outside, not go in. But some of his colleagues, Taylor Boderich got Steven Chung. Steven used to be with us for years. And you've got, of course, Caroline Levitt, who we broke here in when she was running in that heated primary and was just so fantastic up in New Hampshire. But you start with Raheem when he was co anchor here. I think you were an. Weren't you, like, 17 years old as an intern? I think it was. We still encounter Westlake, for sure. Was Harvard Westlake? Do what?

Natalie Winters (19:04)

Do what? I had just. I said we don't want to violate any child labor laws. So I was definitely over 18, but I think just barely. Just barely.

Steve Bannon (19:15)

Just an intern.

Natalie Winters (19:16)

But you know what? It's quite moving. I know. Rarely am I at a loss for words, but to be standing here, I mean, Steve, think about it. What was it? I mean, two years ago, three years ago, we were being smeared as the number one spreaders of misinformation. You were in prison not too long ago. Our entire audience was censored and deplatformed, and look how far we've come. It's a testament to this audience. But also, Steve, more importantly, I think so much of what we've been focusing on lately, the resistance, the concept of civil society, how they're gonna push back because they do have no levers of power, and the media is gonna be the hotbed of resistance. So I pledge to this audience, of course, I'll be covering what President Trump is doing, but. But more importantly, what the mainstream media is doing in terms of lying and deceit and the narratives that they're going to be crafting to try to neuter and nullify President Trump's America first agenda.

Steve Bannon (20:07)

You know, this goes back as a hat tip to Susie Wiles in La Civita, who on the campaign with Jason, understood that power had shifted from mainstream media to now the podcast, the streaming services. And they made a big effort to make sure everybody was involved. That was in the campaign and it paid off in space. Then thinking through how you actually cover this White House with the flood the zone, there's so much going. We started the show with a seven minute cold open on just all these amazing things President Trump's doing. And you can tell right now, Natalie, there are half a dozen to ten things every day that almost get no coverage. That's what we're here to do, is to make sure with Real America's Voice, you're going to understand it all and get it all. But I think what Taylor and Stephen Cheung and Carolyn Levitt had done is brilliant because they've really allowed the podcast and the streaming services that really will put the resources like we did on Friday. And I had even, you know, Brian Glenn did such a magnificent job. Real America's Voice Amanda Head on the West Coast. But like even MTG came to me, she says, hey, I was riveted to the coverage and I know the folks in the White House, that's the, you know, Rob Sig and Parker, Brian Glenn, Amanda Head, John Solomon, War room Paso, Big Charlie, Kirk. We're going to put immense amount of effort to make sure the full story is told because it's such a major, major inflection in American history. And we're putting our best talent there. Amanda Head, Natalie Winners, Brian Glenn. We're going to be announcing other people up on Capitol Hill. We're putting full resources because the stories kind of shifted, right? We were in the outs for years and years and years and fought back. And we put you, whether it's in the border, etcetera, we're still going to be those places. But the center of gravity of the story has shifted to Washington, D.C. and Natalie, who's been such a superstar, is going to be there telling the story and getting to the facts as only as you can tell him one thing just about the action. You know, last night he froze the $3 trillion. He's doing all this stuff with the military. The Marines go to the border. Even Abbott sends 400. He's got Kristi Noem today is kicking down doors in New York City and arresting people. Just the level of activity emanating from the White House must make it a place that you can just feel the energy when you're there. I know you get dark energy, negative energy by the media who are being crushed. And Acosta just left cnn, got fired, essentially. He just had some nasty stuff to say about President Trump, as you can imagine. But the energy coming out of there. Natalie, give us to put us in the rumor, in this case the lawn. Yeah, sure.

Natalie Winters (22:41)

Well, as I was walking and there's massive protests going on outside. I'm not exactly sure what they're over. I think it has something to do with either the Palestine stuff or the mass deportations. But, I mean, I think, Steve, to the point that you were making, you know, there is definitely an undertone and undercurrent. I feel that Brian Glenn feels that of the sort of legacy media, the mainstream press, not wanting us here, sort of scoffing at us, which, I'll take it, I don't really care. I've never cared what they've thought. But to that point, right, when you see MSNBC melting down about the inspector generals being fired or certain DOJ apparatchiks being removed, I would argue every person who's smiling in that video of Merrick Garland leaving should have grounds for termination. But these people have failed. I'm not just talking for decades, but certainly for the last four years. So if anyone from the mainstream press has an issue with me being here or with War Room being here, I would simply say you guys covered up for four, four years a president who literally was so out to lunch he wasn't making any decisions and he wasn't reachable even by his own damn vice president. So if you really want to make the case that what you guys are doing was such a wonderful job, I just point you to that Wall Street Journal report. And I'd say I think that is all the evidence you need as to why we need a new era, a new, shall we say, golden age of media and reporting here coming from the White House. But to your point about flooding the Zone, Jen Psaki literally played the clip of you from that PBS Frontline interview in 2020 last night, saying that that's still their tactic. That's still exactly what they're doing. But make no mistake, I think the counterpoint to flooding the Zone, you see that. You see that reciprocity in terms of what the resistance is trying to do. I know that story you love to talk about in the Wall Street Journal, how they prematurely leaked about those mass deportations and the raids, I would wager I'd be very curious if I were wrong on this, but I'm very confident that the intel from that story came from the aclu. They've been really, really heavily handed in their FOIA requests and trying to get to the bottom of detention centers and the sort of logistics of these raids and mass deportations. They've been bragging about it, they've launched a bunch of new programs. They've of course been suing everyone and their mother, whether it's the birthright citizenship, the mass deportation stuff. Even right now, as we're speaking, actively lobbying governors and state and local level officials to give state level pardons for criminal illegal aliens, that is convicted criminal illegal aliens. So they won't be subject to what is the current purview of a lot of these mass deportation raids. So I think that while it's great to focus on what they're not covering from the Trump administration, make no mistake that the sort of resistance wing of the Democrat Party is an overdrive. And to that point, even Norm Eisen, the State United Democracy Defenders. I believe it was just into the first few minutes of President Trump's terms term that three lawsuits were already filed against the constitutionality of doge. Norm Eisen actually applied to be a member of doge. I'm not kidding. Seriously. And under those grounds, they're saying that that was discrimination, that they did not accept Norm Eisen's application to be involved with Doge. So they're trying to now sort of come and nuke and neuter Doge through that angle. So they are firing on all cylinders when it comes to lawfare. It didn't go anywhere. They're just rebranding. But like I said, I'm so honored and privileged despite all the nasty stares that I'm getting as I'm calling out my nasty new evil America, last America hating colleagues, I guess, though I don't want to demean myself by calling them my colleagues. How they're going to cover it up and run cover for people who are trying to sabotage President Trump.

Steve Bannon (26:05)

Remember, ma'am, none of that crowd got through the University of Chicago with the grade you got in three years while you held down a full time job here. Just remember that. Just be like Scott Bessant with those Democrats.

Natalie Winters (26:19)

Spreader misinformation.

Steve Bannon (26:21)

So misinformation. Natalie, great job.

Natalie Winters (26:27)

Social media, where they go to get you. So I'll take that. Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. And thank you so much for the audience. I know I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for you guys and the power of the War Room posse. So I'm deeply humble and grateful and I wish all of you could be here with me, but maybe that's too cruel a punishment. But thank you, Steve. I'll talk to you soon.

Steve Bannon (26:47)

Okay, Ma'am, Brian Glenn's there. Real America's Voice. Amanda Head's gonna be there for John Solomon. We're going to cover. There's so much to cover. Plus we're on people on Capitol Hill. So kind of the shifting the center of gravity and a hat tip to the communications staff who I think realizes the power of the streaming services and the power of the podcast to really get the word out and to do the types of hard work is necessary to get things done and to make sure that people understand what's going on. We're going to take a short break. Frank Gaffney, two of my favorite people, Frank Gaffney and John Guendola. I think there's been something lost, seriously lost. Because, you know, Raheem and Frank and I and John have been at this, I've been at it, I don't know, for almost 20 years. I guess. I made my first film about this on Reagan and this back in 2004. So about 20 years. 20 years. Something's getting lost in this conversation about the Middle east. And I think we've got to do a little bit, not a reset, but just kind of make sure everything's on the table when we talk about it because there's a lot of vitriol and people are, you know, having hard feelings. No need to have hard feelings. But I think we got to put the context of what's going on over there. We're going to be back in a moment. Want to make sure home title lock. Don't let anybody take you off the ramparts. We got to be there for cash the next couple of days. Hometitlelock.com Bannon go check it out. Make sure nobody can get into your title. It's obvious the unthinkable continues. Most Americans know something is very, very wrong. The people in charge keep telling you that everything's fine and to stop noticing, but you know better. That's why self reliant folks are investing in emergency food storage and you should, too. My Patriots supply, the nation's largest emergency preparedness company, are the ones you can trust. Go to my patriotsupply.com and secure their best selling three month emergency food kits. Each contains tasty Breakfasts, lunches and dinners averaging over 2000 calories per day. My Patriot Supply also sells solar generators, gravity powered water filters, off grid room heaters for when the power goes out. They also sell heirloom seeds and survival gear. Order by 3pm and your items shipped that same day and arrive quickly on your doorstep in unmarked boxes. Go to my patriotsupply.com today. Hope is not a plan. My Patriot Supply is a plan. Time is running out to prepare for what's coming. My patriotsupply.com go there today. Action, Action. Action.

Stephen K. Bannon (29:31)

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

Steve Bannon (29:37)

Okay to get going. I want people to understand two people are going to be up Thursday and so I'm a hold this for 5 o'clock but I'm now aware that I think it was NBC News or someone broke the story this morning about Cash Patel on some whistleblower from the FBI about some incident. Complete nonsense. The Warren Posse and Grace, we're going to the Bill Blaster. We're getting Mike Davis with Article 3. We got work to do on going to the ramparts for cash. I'm just informed now the New York Times is getting ready to publish this afternoon a major hit piece on our own Tulsi Gabbard. And it's also filled with false information. But we will be manning. So the five to seven tonight we'll tee off just like we did for Pete Hexith, just like we did for Gates, although Gates pulled out just like we've done for everybody, for Pam Bondi, the whole crew. We're gonna, we're gonna have work to do this afternoon. Grace will be on watch. I'll get Mike Davis over here. But we're gonna have to let Capitol Hill know what we think about this. This is one of our great functions here at the war Room. So five to seven both Tulsi Gabbard and Cash Patel, they're coming in on Thursday for their hearings and they intend to chop both of those great patriots up. And we will not tolerate it here in the war room. Frank Gaffney. Frank, you and I have worked on this project for 20 years. John Guandola also in a professional capacity over the FBI as a trainer. Raheem Kassam in the no go zones. You were banned at Fox for ever. Banned for CPAC first and then banded Fox for talking about what, what Elon Musk has just gotten famous for over the last couple weeks. They took gaffney off the TV I think still now over 10 years. But Frank, something's getting lost and people I really respect Tucker Carlson, Kurt Mills, other people I consider close colleagues and smart guys and others. There's kind of this range war going on about Israel and about the Middle east and everything. I just want to make sure and to reset what you and I have kind of dedicated a big. You've dedicated your life. I've dedicated a big part of my life not just being anti ccp, but being anti Sharia supremacy and particularly in the Middle east now with the geopolitics, the great power of politics. And you have the rise or the rise of really the Turkish, the Ottoman Empire. You have the Persians still in play, the Egyptians, and you got Qatar. And you and I have worked on this forever. And this is President Trump. We went to Riyadh for a reason. On the first trip, President Trump took Riyadh, Jerusalem and Rome in that order. And I was one of the architects of that and recommended we go in that order. And President Trump address the Muslim nations and we have a memorandum of understanding of terrorism finance. And Qatar refused to sign it and came up with all kind of excuses. It's a nest of vipers over there. I just think we're missing the context that you can't talk about Israel and the other nations you can't talk about. And we're not. I'm not saying we. I'm not a land. I served over there in the North Arabian Sea, in the Persian Gulf during the hostage crisis in the workup for the raid. So I've got some skin in the game. But I'm not a let's go to land war with Persia, let's go bomb them. I'm saying you have to contextualize this. This has to be in this construct of a not Islam, but a radical force form of Islam that is supremacists. And Qatar sees a play here with Turkey in Persia to take over essentially the Gulf Emirates and to take over the two holy sites and have Turkey run it under their auspices. And Israel is going to get caught in a pincer move here. It's obvious to me what's going on, and that's why I think we have to start having a conversation that puts the strategic context in what's happening in Europe and what's happening in Rotherham, all in context. Frank Gaffney.

Frank Gaffney (33:31)

Well, Steve, let me just start by saying thank you for your lifetime of service on this cause. You're right, there's been an enormous amount of efforts, and John Guandolo has the scars to show it, as do I, to suppress the kind of information that we're going to share here. And I couldn't be more grateful, not only that Natalie's got her gig, but that your show is, as she said, this incredible opportunity for people to learn the truth. And let me just acknowledge one other piece of your service, sir. I believe it was the day after you took over as the campaign chairman of the presidency, presidential campaign of Donald Trump in 2016, Aug. 15, 2016, to be precise, that he went to Youngstown, Ohio, and he laid out, in what I consider to be one of his finest speeches ever, essentially an agenda for both understanding the nature. He didn't call it sharia, supremacism. I think that's what it is. But he called it radical Islamic terrorism. And he suggested the specific things we have to do, including stopping importing more of those who are practitioners of it. What a concept. As well as rooting out, stripping the support networks that these guys use in our country. And John Guandolo, my dear friend and great freedom fighter, has learned and understood and taught more about all of this than anybody. So I'll leave it to him to talk a little bit more about how the Muslim Brotherhood features into this. But suffice it to say, our Victory Coalition, which you've encouraged us to establish, VictoryCo.org is where you can find more about it, is meant to be a vehicle for doing precisely this kind of public education. And whether it's guys who are professing that they want to have restraint and that that's really what Donald Trump is all about, when in fact it's about retreat. You talked about the 80s. Ronald Reagan was responding to what the Henry Kissingers and the Graham Allisons and the like thought we ought to do to retreat from inevitable defeat at the hands of the Soviet Union. Reagan wanted no part of it. I don't believe Donald Trump has been elected to sound retreat. And I have a piece up at Gatestone and hopefully shortly at the war room platform on this subject. He was elected by the American people, so who once again, practice peace through strength. I personally think that the guys who have been able to get inside the wire from the Koch empire at the Defense Department don't get this, but you do. I think Donald Trump does. And I think he's not gonna want him anywhere near his policymaking apparatus when he finds out that they're there.

Steve Bannon (36:22)

This is why you have to have a balance. When you talk about restraint. You have to have a balance. Remember Trump, I fought in the National Security Council, adamantly fought the cruise missile attack on Syria because I thought I said hey, we haven't proved the case that he actually used chemical weapons, number one. Number two, this is just like the Clintons. Throw a couple of cruise missiles in there, they'll be flying combat sorties the next day. It just looks weak. And they all cheered him on. Morning Joe, David Ignatius, they all want to get Trump into doing the standard thing. President Trump eventually, as he got wiser in this, got rid of the John Bolton and the guys that wanted to light things up. And I do agree with restraint. You have to be very, very careful when you think about this region. And we spent too much blood. I'm a big pivot to Asia guy. However, it can't be lost on you that Turkey's on the move right now. I mean, Erdogan is. The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. It should be designated just like the Mexican cartels, and I think far worse than the Mexican cartels. They're a terrorist organization. And I tell people, of all the. All the work I got done in the White House and I got a lot done in those nine months, the one I couldn't get any traction on at all is the Muslim Brothers terrorist organization. The apparatus shut it down. And Guandola, you know this Guandola because you've been at the FBI and an instructor of how we've got a problem with Muslim Brotherhood and we got a problem with radical jihad. You just saw in New Orleans, they took a guy, drove a car down, a former army guy drove a car down and butchered, what, 10 people. This is a problem, and it's not really getting better. You can put your head in the sand and think it's getting better, but it's not. John Guandola, your thoughts?

Stephen K. Bannon (38:02)

First of all, Steve, thanks again for having me. I would say this. I think that not only is the American public lacking serious understanding of the threats, but understanding how well coordinated these threats are and the command and control from the international level down to the local mosque level in the United States is astounding from a war fighting perspective. And understanding that the global Islamic movement, and that's how they describe themselves, is at war with the west and with the United States. So a few points. Number one, the largest terrorism financing trial in American history, history, the United States versus the Holy Land foundation for Relief and Development, which was adjudicated in Dallas, Texas in 2008, revealed that the most prominent Islamic organizations in the United States are, as a matter of fact and evidence, a part of an identifiable movement that seeks to overthrow UN Islamic governments and impose sharia, Islamic law, on all people. And we can look at. Let's just look at one ruling from three organizations that tried to have their names removed from the unindicted co conspirator list. Isna, Nate and cair, the Islamic Society of North America, which until the US CMO was the largest Muslim Brotherhood umbrella group in the country. Nate, North American Islamic Trust, the Bank for the Brotherhood in North America and the last remaining of the original four Hamas organizations. Now there are a number of others. The Council on American Islamic Relations, that was formed by the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee care, which was Hamas in the United States. That's a matter of legal fact. The isna, the Islamic Society of North America, has been their former vice president president up until he may still be sitting on it, but was one of the nine commissioners on the US Commission for International Religious Freedom under Mr. Biden. He had received an award, the FBI Director's Award from James Comey. They participated in outreach with the FBI and the State Department. He was publicly thanked by Dick Durbin when he held his hearings on the civil rights of Muslims in America. So the very organizations, our leaders at the national security staffs down to state level and local level officials, including quote unquote, interfaith outreach is all controlled by these guys. The Islamic Society of North America, Cairo and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, as well as to some extent the Islamic Circle in North America control that the interfaith outreach in the United States where Muslims are involved. You know, so when we look at this and you look at the fact that you have. These are not these groups we're talking about. These are not homegrown, regular old Islamic groups. These are organizations that were created and are being controlled by, by hostile foreign powers like Qatar, like Iran, like Saudi Arabia, like Pakistan and the intelligence services.

Steve Bannon (41:37)

Hang on, hang on, hang on. You just said hostile. Hang on. You just said hostile powers and you said Qatar, which we have a massive base in. Right? And you know, they're in back of, you know, Witkoff and these guys cutting this deal on Hamas. And you just said the Saudis and last time I looked were trying to get a deal with that in Israel. And we're, we've got troops all over the place. We're the Defense of the House assault. So you just called them hostile powers. There must be a disconnect because the US Government even under President Trump, is not treating these people like hostile powers. How do you. You got a minute? I'm going to take you to break. How do you back that up?

Stephen K. Bannon (42:16)

Well, first of all, if you look at whose funding and there is plenty of evidence and testimony of the funding from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar to Al Qaeda, ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood to be sure. I mean, who paid for most of the infrastructure here in the United States to be built of Saudi Arabia?

Steve Bannon (42:39)

John, hang on, we're going to go to break, but there's a big differentiation between Persia and we got to start calling it Persia. Young people today have seen 300. They understand the West. Athens in Rome had an enemy. It was Persia. Calling it Iran, I think confuses people, I really do. And I'm served over there, number one. Number two, Persia. And hang on, Persia and Pakistan are different breed of cat than Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They're just totally different. You can't, you can't bunch them together anyway. Short commercial break. John Gundola, Frank Gaffney, the contextualization of what in the hell were you even doing in the Middle East? Short break, Back in a moment. You ever think, how can I work this hard and still be in debt? The piles of overdue bills, the threatening phone calls and never having money to do anything, it's just won't stop. You're trapped in debt. Done With Debt is the way out. They developed aggressive new strategies to end your debt permanently. Done With Debt stands between you and harassing bill collectors. They tirelessly negotiate with your creditors to lower or even forgive what you owe. And they do it all without bankruptcy or new additional loans. As one client raved, quote, our phone call saved us a fortune. I wish we did this long ago. End quote. Bottom line, Done With Debt has unique strategies to get you out of debt faster and put more money in your pocket every month. But you need to hurry because some debt solutions are time sensitive and you don't want to miss out. Visit donewithdebt.com talk with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Let me repeat that. Go to donewithdebt.com and talk to one of their debt relief strategists for free. You have nothing to lose except accept your debt. Go to done with debt.com that is done with debt.com do it today. Action, action, action. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, we got a lot of work to do. Tulsi Gabbard, big hit piece coming in the New York Times, the Cash Patel. That hit piece was where it was exclusive. CBS News took a hit on on Cash with this whistleblower. It's all nonsense. We're going to get to that this afternoon. We're going to get to Tulsi Gabbards. That's coming out, I think in a while. I don't think the New York Times has published it yet. Gaffney in Guandola. This is too serious. I can't jam this in. I don't want to jam it in. We're going to have you back at six to go through this, Frank. Gatestone is going to publish it this afternoon. So is War Room. What time approximately? Where do they go to get the piece? Your social media first and then I'll do.

Frank Gaffney (45:28)

John's Gatestone Institute has it up on their site right now. I think the War Room's now got it. It's gatestoneinstitute.org I want to thank Nina Rosenwald for helping get it up quickly. That is a prime piece of reporting on the problem that we started with, Steve, the restraint versus retreat. I'm also@victoryco.org, and Institute for American the American Future. That's usfuture.org and Securing America, of course.

Steve Bannon (46:02)

Rav, I'll see you back here at 6. Remember, I'm a restraint guy that doesn't want retreat, but we gotta. I wanna contextualize this to make sure people know the players. Persia, Turkey, Qatar and others. John, where do people go to catch up with everything you've been up to?

Stephen K. Bannon (46:18)

So johnguandolo.com is the website and jguandolo54271 on Twitter.

Steve Bannon (46:27)

John Guandolo is one of the greatest patriots we have in this country. And man, they have tried to screw his life up big time for being a hero and a patriot and fighting the good fight now for a couple of decades. Guys, I'll see you back here at 6. Thank you.

Ben Harnwell (46:39)

Thanks, Steve.

Steve Bannon (46:40)

Thank you, sir. John Guandola, if you knew the behind the scenes of what happened to guys like this, the heroes that stepped up when it was not popular. This thing's a problem you have to put in context. The Muslim Brotherhood's a problem. They're worse than the bad as the cartels are. They're kind of limited. They're getting bigger because of fentanyl and making money. Of course, it's chemical warfare from the Chinese Communist Party. Muslim Brotherhood is a major terrorist organization, full stop. I don't want to hear how many church, how many schools and how many hospitals they're running. That's all covered. We'll get to that at six. But you can't. You can't. You get must. You always must put this thing in context. Contextualize. And I'm a pivot to China. Remember, I'm the take down the cpd, President Trump. I want to get out of the Middle east as quickly as you can get out of there. But you got to face realities about leaving or what you're, what you're defending in Europe and the United States. Natalie Dominguez, what are we defending here, ma'am? Because we need people at the ramparts. Perfect example today we're going to need a big showing of the war in posse starting this afternoon. We get back here, 5:00, we tell you what's going on, break it all down for you. But tomorrow, the next day, these hearings of Bobby Kennedy, the hearings of Pam Bondi and particularly Tulsi Gabbard and Cash, they think Thursday they got the target on them. We need to be the rampart and you can't sit there and have the angst of having somebody taking a big second mortgage on your home. Natalie Dominguez, what do you got for us?

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Steve Bannon (49:26)

Did not know that. Did not know that.

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