
Episode 4243: RFK And MAHA Win Committee Vote ...
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On this panel had. Yet many of them are starting to fall in line. You saw Susan Collins yesterday say that she planned to vote yes. James Lankford, who initially was a yes vote but then was among the senators raising serious concerns about the way she answered questions related to Edward Snowden, said yesterday confirmed definitively that he will vote yes for her as well. Young is the only one on the Intelligence Committee who has yet to say which way he plans to vote. And he received a a great deal of online scrutiny, particularly from Elon Musk was of course, Donald Trump's right hand man right now in the White House. Then Musk signaled on his platform X that he and Young had spoken and that things were resolved. No one said anything about how that impacted Tulsi Gabbard's vote. And Young has continued to say that he is still trying to figure out if he's a yes or a no. If Young votes no in committee, that's likely enough to kill Gabbard's vote as well. But Jonathan, I think the important point here is if past practice is any indication about this Young new Congress and their relationship with Donald Trump, they will likely fall in line. I think that we should be very surprised if we see either Cassidy or Young stray away from this vote and vote no, and especially be the person, the one individual that takes the brunt of what will likely be an enormous amount of backlash from the MAGA community if they are the ones to vote no. So I'd be very surprised if either of these nominees at least don't make it until the next stage and that full floor vote. But there will be a lot to watch here today. And one other last point I'll make about this, Jonathan. Bill Cassidy up for reelection in Louisiana. If you were to vote no, he would likely face a very stiff challenge from the MAGA world. And keep in mind he may face that challenge anyway given the fact that he voted to impeach Donald Trump during his last term. So there's a lot of play here today and it's going to tell us a lot about the future of these nominees and also the future of this Republican Congress and if they have any plans to stand up to Donald Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
In the near future. Yeah, there'd be, there'd be safety in numbers. But being that one loan no vote that makes a difference is very, very challenging. And I'll say Trump officials I've spoken.
Political Analyst
In recent days feel very bullish about.
Stephen K. Bannon
Their chances to get everyone through. You send these nominations to the Senate and the Article 3 project will work with Bannon's war room and we will get these people confirmed. And we have. And we did that with Pete Hexseth. We lit up the Senate when people went to Article three, project dot or, and take action. We've had a hundred and we've had. I'd have to get the latest numbers from Mark Lucas. She just gave us the numbers, overall numbers and what Natalie said from the White House, literally, we collectively melted down the Senate's phone line. Everything they can't take. It's the most they've ever had. We've had 160,000 phone calls and emails go in to home state senators, not just Steve Bannon calling up, you know, Macy Hirono from Hawaii calling your home state senators, which is the most effective thing you can do. We have melted down the Senate, so they have gone from dead on arrival to, oh, make this stop. After about three days of the war room blowing up the Senate switchboard. So it's going very well. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not getting a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Senator Ron Wyden
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Stephen K. Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Oh. Tuesday 4, February Yervilleord 2025 welcome to the War Room. Okay, it's another workday. We've got usaid. We're actually. Ben Berkhweim's out on ice raids. He's going to stop what he's doing to join us, I think, in Newark, New Jersey, another sanctuary city. Ben's going to step out of our ICE raid and join us. We're going to have Larry Tautin. We've had Larry on many times over the years. Talk about USAID and their direct involvement in the invasion of the United States. So we want to get that out. Posos here. China's come back. China's not happy. President Trump laid a 10% tariff on them and they're coming back. They're antitrust. They're doing this with Google doing Other things, big tariffs on a blowback. We're going to get all that work through. Post is going to be on here. Also, Bibi's at the White House today. First visitor. They're going to talk the strategy of the Middle East. President Trump's trying to shut down two wars simultaneously. We'll talk more about Ukraine with posts up, too. Zelensky sticking by the fact he only got $77 billion. We sent 250. He said only 178. Actually, theoretically, they can even, you know, see where we're trying to send it. But only 77 billion came to him. Something's missing. But the first work is 10:00. Bobby Kennedy. The committee, I think, is actually meeting. If this gets to be real, we will kick into live coverage of that. We know how much you love that tulsi garbage. At 2. We are at the 11th. You know, we're at the 59th minute of the 11th hour here. Two minutes to midnight on this. Right now. It's Cassidy on Bobby and Todd Young of Indiana. I don't know, man. You know, these guys like Mike Turner, you get these, you get these yahoos on the, on these intelligence committee. And the intelligence community sucks them in and tell them they're James Bond. And next thing you know is, is that on? Okay, don't have it feeding back my ears. I can't hear my lovely voice. These, you know, they get, they get to be absolutely awful. So Todd Young's one of those guys. We've lit him up for the last couple days. 202-224-3121 is the number. Get your last licks in on this thing. You heard Mike Davis last night. Hundreds of thousands of call between Article 3 project in war room. Just you guys going over the top. And then war room Bill Blaster. So there's three avenues of attack here. As Ted Cruz said on his podcast the other day, these things are impactful. And Ted Cruz gave you a good cheat sheet. He said, hey, look, they don't really listen to the, to the logic. You can leave that if it helps you vent, but just give it a boom. Tulsi Gabbard, Yes. Tulsi Gabbard, yes. Bobby Kennedy, yes. Bobby Kennedy, yes. Really, they just, they just tally votes. The vote on Bobby Kennedy's this morning, remember, why is this important? Bobby Kennedy is the instrument that, in his Department of Health and Human Services is the instrument that we kind of merge. We weld together the MAGA movement and the Make America Healthy Again movement. You saw what happened in 2024 and 5th November. We have worked on this for years. This is why we got Naomi Wolf. Remember when Naomi were first came on the Show Back in 2021, you hated her. Oh my God, the hate. Oh my God. She's a feminist, she's a liberal, she's a progressive. Yeah, she was all those things. She was. But this is the red pill of the moms of America. The moms for Liberty. Those moms that saw what was being taught to their kids in school. The moms all sudden had a great awakening. And Nicole Shanahan, I think I'm on her show today. Nicole Shanahan came out, was a fire breather, Make America healthy again. And they've exposed the entire racket of the food industry, right? And the kind of the racket of big, of big agriculture and the racket of Big Pharma. You watch MSNBC like we do. We deconstruct this all the time. You watch MSNBC 80% of the ads. They have two types of ads. They have ads for the most bizarre drugs you've ever seen in your life. I mean, it's the sickest audience I've ever seen. Last night I saw one that topped it for people that are depressed, but it's a booster for your depression pills. Not kidding. They're depressed and they need a. They need uplift. It's safer. Your depression pills. I'm not picking on people that are depressed. I know people are out there depressed and you particularly depress if you're watching MSNBC and you're a progressive. I got that. But it's just everything so Big Pharma basically supports. And Bobby Kennedy has committed to us. One of the first things he's going to do is get Big Pharma. They don't do it in England, they don't do it in Europe. They don't let these pharmaceutical companies come in and do basic advertising on political channels. Shouldn't be able to do it because it's part of the political agenda. Bobby Kennedy promised that. Bobby Kennedy, for all his flaws, and he's a very imperfect instrument, as we all are. I think we're, I think we're, I think we're. I think we're running the tables here on imperfect instruments. It's Bobby Kenney's imperfection that makes his work even better, I think, just like President Trump, Pete Hegseth, Stephen K. Bannon, Tucker Carlson, all of us. And today we need Bobby Kennedy. Dr. Cassidy, folks in Louisiana. We had the Surgeon General of Louisiana on here the other day and he is full maga. And he said flat out, make no mistake about it, the people in Louisiana want make America healthy again. They want Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Now, you might ask, why is the Finance Committee voting on this? Why is the Health and Human Services Committee not voting on it? That's a very good question. The answer is there's so much cash that flows through this system, cash money, that they make the Finance Committee kind of oversee it, Health and Human Services, the, the committee of jurisdiction, this kind of dual reporting. But the vote goes on the Finance Committee. This is what Elon's trying to do. As you know, Elon Musk and I have some differences of opinion. We also have some things that the enemy of my enemy is my friend in the big league. Enemy of each other. When you talk about big topics, could be very friendly. You know, you can, the clans can unite for what used to do this in Scotland all the time. You can unite to keep, you know, was it Edward the First from Burning York, from sieging York, and then turn around the next day and be at it, fighting each other. It works. I'm Irish, I'm Celtic. It happens all the time. Hell, that's the way the British kept us divided for so many centuries. 202224, 3121 Elon Musk with his engineering. Brian, here's what's going on. The memo you saw come out last week from omb, it's two parts of this story and the media doesn't quite get it because they're not engineers. Elon Musk is going in first. Remember, we need big cuts. We need a trillion dollars, Elon, and we need it like next week. Just identify it. You don't have to make the cuts. President Trump and the House are going to make the cuts. Okay, but we need identification in his mind. And this how engineer works. Like the first thing that you do on a Navy ship when you show up, you're just a, an ensign. You have north the idea. You basically learn. The pointy part of the ship goes forward and the stern is where, you know, is in the back, the fantails in the back. That's about all. You know what they tell you to do. You get a notebook and you line diagram the entire ship. You walk around. You start with like the engines and the steno. You just, you line diagram the weapon systems, the communication system. The engineer is very laborious. The damage control systems. You just take a pen and you just do it. And then in your mind you have a mental map. You have a mental map. All of a sudden, the ship as a system starts to make sense. Remember Wellington? Don't we talk about Wellington? What do we do on the show that you're so far ahead and you're such a hammer. You're such a hammer. So far ahead. As soon as they start talking, something good will go to it. Let's go live to the committee here and I will come back with my contextualization of all of this. Have you seen the news from economists forecasting a depression? I'm not talking recession. I mean depression. By the year 2030, we're in a perfect storm as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point with the largest generation hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. Pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living and you got a problem. And I mean a big problem. 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Senator Bill Cassidy
We will proceed with statements and I will proceed first, then Senator Wyden, and then we will rotate. I will proceed first, then Senator Wyden, and then we will rotate from one side to the other until we are at a point where we are prepared for the vote. Does that fit with you, Senator Wyden?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, sir.
Senator Bill Cassidy
Mr. Kennedy, if confirmed, will have the opportunity to deliver much needed change to our nation's health care system. He has spent his career fighting to end America's chronic illness epidemic and has been a leading advocate for health care transparency, both for patients and for taxpayers. Mr. Kennedy has also clearly responded to our questions during the rigorous due diligence process in his hearing Also, and in the course of answering over 900 questions for the record that were asked by members of this committee, in response to members of the committee, Mr. Kennedy has even amended his ethics agreement, going beyond what is required by the government Office of Ethics. Mr. Kennedy has proven his commitment to the role of Secretary of the hhs and I will vote in favor of his nomination. I strongly encourage my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to do the same. And with that, I recognize our ranking member, Senator Wyden, for his remarks.
Senator Ron Wyden
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I'll have a brief statement and then several. My colleagues on our side are also going to make brief statements this morning. We're going to vote on Robert Kennedy's nomination to serve Kennedy's nomination to serve as our nation's chief health care officer. Before we get to Mr. Kennedy and why I believe he is singularly unfit to serve as HHS Secretary, I'd like to say this. The last several days we've witnessed an authoritarian takeover of our federal government by Elon Musk and Donald Trump. They have set their sights on a full purge of anyone in government that doesn't bend the knee and follow their orders. They've taken over the Treasury Department's payment system and colleagues that has a direct effect on major programs within our committee's jurisdiction that include Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, for example. This committee voted for a major reform of pharmacy benefit manager legislation. We passed it 26 to nothing, but Trump and Musk killed it. Think what they could do with abuse of the payment system. Now, in my view, much of this is of dubious legality and constitutional authority and certainly flies in face of congressional responsibilities. I'll wrap up on this point by saying I hope our colleagues on the other side of the aisle will not sit by while Musk and Trump make a mockery of the power Republicans hold in their Congressional majority. Now, more than ever, the American people need leaders that will stand up to these abuses. That brings me to Mr. Kennedy. A recent analysis showed that Mr. Kennedy has made 114 separate appearances in just the last four years where he has espoused anti vaccine views or spread information about the efficacy of vaccines. Misinformation. Specifically, in 36 of those instances, Mr. Kennedy directly linked vaccines to autism. Last week, Mr. Kennedy was given ample authority on a bipartisan basis to recant his decades long career peddling anti vaccine conspiracies. Instead, he spent his time with us dodging and weaving and gave no indication that if confirmed as HHS secretary, he would stand by the Long settled science surrounding routine vaccinations. Just take the Samoa measles outbreak as an example, Mr. Kennedy told me, and I quote, we don't know what was killing them. Speaking about the 83 measles deaths during an outbreak of the disease in 2019. Just yesterday, colleagues, the Director General of Health from Samoa called this claim a total fabrication. Peddling these conspiracy theories as the nation's chief health officer is going to be deadly for kids across the country. On abortion, Mr. Kennedy's answers once again raised still more questions. He refused to tell us whether he would blindly follow a directive from Donald Trump to break the law and end access to mifepristone. And he seemed to have no understanding of his role in enforcing existing federal laws that guarantee women the right to life saving abortion care. Mr. Kennedy also failed on several occasions to show a basic understanding of the Medicare and Medicaid programs he would be tasked with overseeing. Colleagues, that alone should be disqualifying. Mr. Kennedy has given us no reason to believe he'll be anything other than a rubber stamp for plans to gut Medicaid and rip healthcare away from the American people and be a yes man if ordered by Musk or Trump to take into legal action. I close with this, colleagues, Today we're going to make a judgment about the future of science in this country. We're going to make decisions that are going to impact the health and well being of Americans for years to come. I agree, and I say this to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, that the health care status quo needs substantial changes so we get better, more affordable care to patients. And that leaves, given my statement, the question in front of us. Now, that's pretty simple. Do senators want their legacy to include disregarding basic health science and instead elevate conspiracy theorists? Making Robert Kennedy Secretary of Health and Human Services, in my view, colleagues, would be a grave threat to the health of the American people. And I urge my colleagues this morning to vote no.
Senator Bill Cassidy
So we had everybody here. Can I ask that we do the vote now and then do the.
Senator Ron Wyden
I want you to do two or three on each, and then we go to the vote.
Stephen K. Bannon
Can I go?
Senator Ron Wyden
Yeah, we're gonna do it.
Senator Bill Cassidy
So, Senator Wyden, we have all of our members here. Senator Wyden and I have agreed that we will have two or three on each side who wanted to make statements, do so before the vote. So please, everyone hold with us while we have those statements made and then we will proceed to the vote. I know we've got a lot of platinum Level science.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's what we're running on here. The Maha and the Maga moment come together. Let's go back to the committee, hear what they have to say. I'll jump in if it starts to bore me. How about at that? Let's go ahead. We're under the impression we've seen all the headlines. Cyber attacks on our power grids, drones in the sky, violent attacks on everyday Americans. The ugly truth is no leader, no system can protect you from everything. And the last thing I want is to be standing in line. Depending on help that may never come. And when crisis hits, food is always the first casualty. Everyone needs it. And panic buying makes things worse. You remember this from the pandemic? That's why I've made sure my family's prepared with my Patriot Supply and their four week emergency food kit. It gives you the nutrition you need to stay strong in a crisis. With 2000 calories per day and 100% of your daily value of 12 essential vitamins and minerals, this kit helps keep you going when every meal matters. Right now they're offering 50 bucks off their four week food kit. Go to my patronsupply.com now to grab yours. Don't put this off. Now is the time. Prepare. That's my patronsupply.com to get your four week foodkit today. Make sure you're prepared. The crisis is here.
Senator Ron Wyden
After we talked that we would have two or three and I'm happy for both sides to make brief remarks and I'd still like to stay with that.
Senator Bill Cassidy
I did make that commitment and so I could say to my colleagues on my side, I would appreciate it if you would hold your remarks until after the vote. We will let a couple on your side have their remarks and then we will proceed to the vote.
Senator Ron Wyden
Great, thank you.
Senator Bill Cassidy
And who would be next?
Senator Ron Wyden
Senator Cantwell.
Senator Bill Cassidy
Senator Cantwell.
Senator Maria Cantwell
Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I didn't, you know, when you said two or three people, I didn't know who you had in mind. But being next in seniority, I appreciate the opportunity. Today is very concerning to me because of the future of what I think our nation faces. When I think of this issue, I think of my Pacific Northwest leadership. How Paul Allen, on his own invested $100 million to fight Ebola. I think of Bill Gates and the Gates foundation, not just trying to eradicate polio and work on these issues, but to think of a regime that helps not just our nation's health, but global health. With the uw, the University of Washington, the Cancer Research center, all of These entities are a collaboration of saying we have to go faster in solving these threats to our nation as it relates to health. Now, we can have a big discussion, which I think you guys all want to have a big discussion about whether and when what happened in the Wuhan Province. But I can tell you, we were the first city, we had the first patient, we had the first people who died in nursing homes. We had an emergency room at a hospital who basically was just begging for any equipment we could get them. The whole community stood up and moved as fast as we possibly could and broke down barriers to save lives. And that is what we have to continue to do on innovation. We cannot let another country get ahead of us on some sort of warfare issue and not have a response when it comes to a vaccine. So the most challenging. I wanted to vote for Mr. Kennedy in the context of my family's history. My dad stood behind his father the night his father gave the famous speech. I told him in my office, in my family, the Kennedys stood up. But when he answered Senator Cassidy's question, and he couldn't even give him the answer, that, yes, the data is there to support vaccines today. I don't need any more data. All of a sudden, I saw this world that we got affected by in Seattle not being stood up for. I need someone at HHS who is going to say, we are going to be a leader in medical, technology, science, vaccines. We are going to fight foreign powers. We are going to be there to provide global health. And I don't want recalcitrant. I need a leader. And that is why I'm voting no.
Senator Bill Cassidy
Thank you. Senator Wyden and I have agreed that Senator Warnock will now speak. Following Senator Warnock, we will proceed to the vote, and then anyone else who who wants to make remarks will be allowed to make remarks.
Senator Raphael Warnock
Senator Warnock, thank you so very much, Mr. Chairman. At a rally a few months ago, Donald Trump said that he was going to allow Mr. Robert Kennedy to, quote, go wild on health. Go wild. Of all the things that I can think of that I'd like to see a Secretary of Health and Human Services do. Go wild is not on the list. Mr. Robert Kennedy is manifestly unqualified for the job he seeks. And in both my live and written questions, for the record, he failed to commit to protecting access to affordable health care. Failed to commit to protecting the people who are protecting us. The problem that the CDC has is that every day these noble civil servants and workers protect us from dangers that we don't see. And Often you don't get credit for protecting people from things that they don't see. I simply do not trust him to oversee the cdc. He's unqualified, and I dare say everybody here knows it. We need a serious person at the helm of the hhs, an agency responsible for about half of the health. The health of about half of all Americans. Mr. Kennedy appears more obsessed in chasing conspiracy theories than chasing solutions to lower health care costs for working families in Georgia. And to make sure that we are protected. The last thing we need is a dilettante dabbling in conspiracy theories at hhs. I cannot vote for a nominee who is not going to lower health care costs for Georgians, who is going to undermine basic science in public health, who puts his own interests above the health and the well being of others, for the health and well being of all of our families. The people who count on us to think about them in these rooms of power. I urge all of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to look past politics and think of country and to find the moral courage to do what's right. Oppose this nomination.
Senator Bill Cassidy
Thank you, Senator Warnock. We now have not only a quorum, but all members of the committee are present. I move that the committee favorably report the nomination of the Honorable Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Of California to be Secretary of Health and Human Services. Is there a second? Second. There is a second. The clerk will call the roll.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Grassley.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Grassley. Aye dot Mr. Cornyn.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Cornyn. Aye dot Mr. Thune. Aye. Mr. Thune. Aye dot Mr. Scott.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Scott. Aye. Mister Cassidy.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Cassidy. Aye. Mr. Lankford.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Langford.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Daines.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. DaineS. Aye. Mr. Young. Mr. Young. Aye. Mr. Barrasso. Mr. Barrasso. Aye. Mr. Johnson.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Johnson.$ Aye. Mr. Tillis.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Tillis.— Aye. Mrs. Blackburn. Mrs. Blackburn. Aye. Mr. Marshall.
Stephen K. Bannon
Aye.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Marshall. Aye. Mr. Wyden.
Senator Ron Wyden
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Wyden. No, Ms. Cantwell.
Senator Maria Cantwell
No.
Committee Clerk
Ms. Cantwell. No. Mr. Bennett. Mr. Bennett.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Warner.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Warner.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Whitehouse. Mr. Whitehouse. No. Ms. Hassan. Ms. Hassan. No. Ms. Cortez Masto. Ms. Cortez Masto.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Ms. Warren.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Ms. Warren. No cheering Mr. Sanders.
Senator Ron Wyden
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Sanders. No. Ms. Smith.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Ms. Smith. No. Mr. Lujan.
Tom Danz
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Lujan.
Stephen K. Bannon
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Warnock.
Senator Maria Cantwell
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Warnock. No. Mister Welch.
Senator Ron Wyden
No.
Committee Clerk
Mr. Welch. No. Mr. Chairman. Chairman votes aye. Mr. Chairman, the final tally is 14 ayes, 13 nays.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right there. Good work, Warren. Posse chalk went up. That was tough. That was hard. Senator Cassidy of Louisiana. Now it Helps folks. He's in cycle. He doesn't want a primary challenge. That is historic right there. The committee just voted to approve 14, 13 along party lines, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As secretary of Health and Human Services. So of the three, the trifecta that we get to get across, Bobby Kennedy is now voted out of committee. And I think with our whip count, you know, it may be tight, but we always got JD in reserve. JD Vance, the vice President of the United States and president of the Senate if we need it. But right now, just a historic, historic vote right there. And folks, that was because of you. And Mike is Article 3. It was the war and posse, both direct calls of the 202-224-3121. And also using Bill Blaster, Grace Chung and the Bill Blaster team. And in addition, the Make America Healthy Again movement. They did an amazing job. Children's health, defense, all of it. So take a lap right there. Victory. Very tough. And this is another one, as Mike Davis said last night, for those that didn't watch the six o'clock hour, the fourth hour, we're trying to get people coming back who spent the day at the White House over at the agencies to try to come in studio and summarize what's working on. Mike had been at the White House all day and had been working on confirmations. Mike's a specialist in confirmation on judges, but he's also become in this current cycle, he's been, he is doing murder boards for tons of these candidates. I think he'll be working on the entire Justice Department. He murder boarded Russ vote. He was the murder board on Cash Patel. He is very involved. As you remember, he was the guy with Gorsuch. Kavanaugh. Gorsuch was not hard. Kavanaugh was, I shouldn't say not hard. They're all hard. But his was relatively easy. Kavanaugh's was a tractor pole. Mike Davis in the breach did not blink. And that's the reason Kavanaugh's on the Supreme Court, because trust me, there was that unforgiving minute like Pete Hegseth, remember about a month ago on that Thursday when we started the 5 o'clock show, we had to jump up on it. You guys did it. Pete Heggs is at the border with the US army and the Marine Corps. What's he doing? Securing the border. And that's because of this, of this group. You just dug in there and said, no way. We want Pete Hexseth. Governor, Santa is a fine guy. We want Pete Hex. President Trump wants Him, and we want him and we got him. Same with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. I cannot tell you folks the great effort and work that you have done here using your agency, because this is one. Remember what Mike Davis said last night, all these things are dead, and they're all dead in the water. And these people are all dead. And they're all washed up on the beach where they ain't washed up on the beach speech. The reason Kennedy so important, the reason HHS is so important, this is the fusion. This is the merger of the MAGA movement and the Make America Healthy Again movement, which is a rising tide of these particularly moms that are sitting there going, hey, we want the Agriculture Department. We want hhs. We want to make America healthy again. We're tired of these diseases. We're tired of this, of all this. We're tired of these drugs. We don't need to be on these drugs all the time. It's ridiculous. What we need to do is be healthy. And they're at the tip of the spear. And Bobby Kennedy is the tip of the spear. So everybody over the Kennedy shop that we've been working with for the last couple of months and their amazing, amazing, amazing team. Chief of Staff over there, of course, Stephanie Spears, all of it. Naomi Wolf behind the scenes, so many great. Mary, the president of Children's Health Defense we've had on so many times, just fantastic, fantastic work. Can't speak highly enough about Children's Health Defense. Remember, at one time they were considered a bunch of wingnut fringe element. They're not considered now wingnut fringe element. Their head is now on the path to be Secretary of Health and Human Services. And let me bring up another point. No matter how much you kowtow these Democrats, it's full resistance. I want to go back to the opening of Wyden. Wyden's opening had nothing to do with Bobby Kennedy. It's all about President Trump and Elon Musk. And let me refer back to Elon for a minute and back to the analogy of the Navy ship as a young officer. You line up the ship because then you see how the system works. A ship as a combatant, a combatant works as a system. You must understand the system to maximize the benefit of the system. But also, if things come like in combat and the system has disruptions, you know how to work around those disruptions to keep it fighting. This is what Elon Musk. And also remember Wellington. What do we teach her all the time? What did General Wellington do with his young officers in The Peninsula campaign. He's in Spain and Portugal. They're in a land they've never been in before. A lot of these guys came, had served with him in India. He would bring them up alongside him and say, hey, bring the second lieutenant, the next lieutenant up to ride alongside me. He said, tell me what's on the other side of the hill. And the guy would go, I don't know. More hill going down a hill, a downslope. He goes, no, no, no. I want you to tell me specifically what's on the other side of the hill. And he would train these people, train them. Just don't look at what's around you. You've got to be projected downrange in life. How many people do you know that can't get it together enough? To think of what process is, to kind of think what's happening and how this all comes together. That's what separates you and the War Room. That's what separates the show is to think downrange, to think over the other side of the hill, to think about the ship that you've, you know, wired. Diagram. How does it work as a system? And in the system, what are the weak points? How can we. Where do we know the point of attack is on the system to disrupt it, particularly when we've been in the minority for so long. What Elon Musk is doing is seeing his engineering brain come into work. What he first wanted to do. This is, I think, in back of the first, there was two parts of this. First was the memo of OMB to say, okay, in this vast system, what cash is in the system that haven't been spent versus what the approved appropriation was, appropriations is $6.5 trillion, roughly. We're working on last year's budget because we haven't passed a budget. It's still a cr. We're kicking a can down the road. But OMB manages that and kind of watches it as far as percentages. He wanted to see how accurate it was, but also where the cash is and what's the blow up we had last week? The blow up last week is very simple. The cash is everywhere. The cash is everywhere. It's. Remember the guys were at the route playing golf and listening to President Trump and thinking great thoughts about the budget, which they refused to cut. But they found out that, hey, the money's in Head Start. The money's in Meals on Wheels, the money's at the Kiwanis Club. You know, it's all over. It's at these hospitals, community hospitals, it's everywhere, in every congressional districts, in a lot of MAGA districts. And their phones were blown up. So it's a good exercise to have. They also found out it might not be as accurate as they thought it was. Another good test. He's testing a system. Russ Foton. Those guys are testing a system. The progressives heads blew up because they said finally somebody's underneath the hood of the car and they're seeing how this thing works, right? And these guys just want to spend and fire and forget. It's all spent. You can't do anything. President Trump's theory of the case goes back to and the reason the memo came out. President Trump is signing executive orders. We're talking about every day, Days of Thunder. We're talking about EO to pull us out of wh, the World Health Organization. We're talking about an EO to stop the green news scam. You talk about an EO that cuts this off or stops this or stops this. And President Trump would then pick up his favorite papers, which would be the Wall Street Journal, right? He'd pick up the Wall Street Journal. He would pick up the Financial Times of London. He pick up his real favorite, the New York Times. And on the front page of these every day, it's hey, Trump, Trump is signing these things. But the meaningless. Remember the headline we put up, the Financial Times last week? The headline there was the $300 billion has already been spent through the system. That's driving President Trump nuts. He's going, hey, I'm signing these EOs. What are they telling me? This money's already spent. The theory of impoundment. Understand this. Write that down with the number two pencil. This is about the unified theory, theory of the executive. Ideas have consequences. We're starting at big ideas and we're flowing it through the system. The unitary theory of the executive is that he's the chief executive of the United States government. He is the commander in chief of the uniformed military services. He is the chief magistrate and the chief legal, chief defender, legal officer of the United States government, law enforcement officer. That hasn't happened since Nixon. They're apoplectic. As chief executive officer, he can make executive decisions. The theory of the case is the appropriations bill, which is statutory in a law. And we fight over those all the time. In fact, we've got Eli Crane sent me some footage. It's amazing. Eli Crane in the middle of the night, I think a summer ago or two summers ago, sitting there arguing about the. To the Appropriations Committee or subcommittee about, guess what usaid. And he and Matt Gaetz are hammering it and they're telling about how illegal is and what they're doing, how their funding's gotta be shut down. The Republicans voted him down. Less than 50% of the Republicans had his back and had Matt Gaetz's back. So. And I love Cernovich, Cernovich sitting there going. The House Freedom of Caucus tried for years, usaid, and they didn't really think, Mike, this is about the Republican establishment. What Elon Musk has put on notice is not the House Freedom Caucus, Eli Crane. Those guys want to do it. They haven't had the votes. The votes are the establishment. That's the ones you see. Dead quiet. And the reason is they don't want Elon Musk coming and drop a $10 million dime on their head in their district that they can never get out of. So Elon Musk is sitting there, and that's usaid. But let's go back to the line diagram. President Trump wants to see where the cash is. He wants to do impoundment. He's saying, hey, the appropriations bill says what the ceiling is. I, as executive, with my powers, my Article 2 powers, as the chief executive of this apparatus called the federal government, I can make executive decisions. And that executive decision is that, guess what? The green news scam is not working. There's 300 billion. I'm going to go grab that money because I'm going to impound it. And guess what? I'm going to reallocate it to, I don't know, maybe getting 12 million illegal aliens out of the country. Hey, just saying. Or as a chief executive officer, he could make other decisions. That's his theory of the case. These ideas are big. I think a couple of three of them may actually end up at the Supreme Court. Okay. I think a lot of these ideas are going to have to be argued out, going to court and eventually see. But President Trump's got a pretty good track record on that. You go back to the first on the travel ban. We sat in the travel ban and we had a legal. And I told him, the Supreme Court will back us up all the way through the system. President Trump didn't want to back off Iraq. Iraq was in the first one. We did a second because of, because of Madison, these guys. And President Trump goes, I don't like this. We're going to win with the first one, but I'll do it because my journals want to do it. Did the second one went to the Supreme Court. Guess what? No. President Trump is Correct. That's what you're seeing here. Now Elon takes it one step further. He goes, hey, I see in the diagram maybe the forward part of the ship where we can monitor this. I know where the cash is, but that's not actually controlling the cash. It just controls part of it. I want to go back to the railhead of this. I want to see where the check, I want to see where it goes from a actually being a 15,000 page document like these appropriations bills are, how that actually flows through the system to what department and who cuts the checks. How's the check get cut? Because Office of Management Budget clearly is a management apparatus and Doge is part of that. They're a consultant of that, they're an advisor to that. I want to see actually how it gets the checks get cut. That leads us to the Treasury Department. The Treasury Department then goes back and that's why he has a team over there. And what are they doing? They're lining out right now and doing a line diagram right now on all of it and seeing where the, where the thing comes over. The budget, the appropriations bill comes over with the allocation of cash from the Treasury. And remember, the Treasury's got to also, since we only take in, I don't know, $4.5 trillion, it all goes to the treasury, right? And you're spending 6.5 trillion. There's a gap. There's Mr. Deficit, remember Mr. Deficit, okay? Mr. Deficit is in finance by treasury selling bonds. And there are and their money printing partner, the Federal Reserve, the money printing partner, the fiat currency. So this is how it works. And he's doing a massive diagram and they're actually finding in the system some issues. I think he's saying some of this is on autopay. They've auto payed some and there's not even, there's some organizations or institutions are not signed off in the appropriations, maybe even gone away when he's spending $6 trillion, that stuff's going to happen. And that's what he wants to rewire it. Now his theory of the case is in seeing this, he will see what massive inefficiencies are. Massive, massive overlaps are. And we've always kind of dismissed waste, fraud and abuse here. We know it's a lot, but it doesn't get to the trillion dollars or the 2 trillion that you got it. You got to cut the, you got to cut here. But he's going about it. This is how an engineer thinks. This is how Thomas Edison and he's the modern day Edison, let's say this is how Thomas Edison would come through and say, if we're going to restructure this, he keeps talking about the digital side one. I just want to see how the system works. It's no different than a young officer in a Navy ship. It's no difference. In the war in posse, why do we remember what we say all the time? We're going to show you critical path, right? Process, statics and dynamics of process. You know, where the inflection points are, where the angle of attack is. This is why you're so much more sophisticated than virtually all these people on Capitol Hill, because you've studied this. You've studied this in the war room. And he's doing a quick tutorial now as it comes through. Some of the first things he sees are surprise. Exactly what the war room posse's been looking at. Because for the last four years, five years, we've had people on like Mike Benz, we had a young investigative reporter like Natalie Winters, we had Darren Beatty on all the time, right? We have Jack Posobec and Raheem Kassam. You have Revolver News, you have. You have Kane, A Citizen Free Press of putting these stories up, you are ten times more sophisticated. I know you're sitting there going, man, come on, I got a bib. Overall, no, you don't. Come on. You're more sophisticated, with a more sophisticated understanding than virtually all the media. Because all the media, the ones on tv, are all like movie stars and TV stars, okay? They're not there for their brains, okay? They're there for their style and their looks, the laboring oars of the press. Some are very good and some get it done. But that's the exception, not the rule. That's the exception, not the rule. Because the city does not reward real reporting. The city does not reward. The media, does not reward. They reward the. Over the top. Trump's a fascist, right? Over the top. Elon Musk and C. Bannon are at war with each other. Or they go the horse race. If they're going the horse race on a presidential campaign or they're doing this kind of Palestine intrigue and who's in and who's out on the court and what's. That's the lazy way. It's easy. The story kind of writes itself, right? And this is what they do. They don't get in back of the underlying processes. They don't get in back of the convergence of these forces. They've totally missed. They've still missed one of the biggest Most important stories ever. Not just the rise of populism, which they're too arrogant to really get in back of in detail. Although some are running to it now because they think they get a book deal. But they've missed is the theory of the case of how we won 2024. And Elon Musk, quite frankly, I say to his credit, he came in and backed that because there's always countervailing forces around Trump and President Trump. You've seen President Trump, we say in beast mode right now, right? This is Days of Thunder and he's dropping bombs. Whether it's trade, geo economics, Greenland, Panama, the border DEI, you just go on and on. I can name 25 things that we not even talking about now. They're all big because he's in beast mode every day. Bang, bang, bang. It's not just flood the zone he sees, he's crushing the opposition. They're on msnbc, yammering, right? And that just at the Daily show last night, John Daly, Jon Stewart took on Chuck Schumer, which I, I'm sitting there going, why are they. It's great for us. They roll Schumer out and he go, we're not gonna fall for Bannon's flood the zone. We're focused. Yeah, okay. And he's sitting there going, they gotta shut down Schumer. It's so bad because there is no opposition right now. There's just not. They're trying to get opposition. Jamie Raskin, they ran over for this pathetic outside of usaid. Cuz why? The engineering mind of Elon Musk said, hey, this is a node, this usaid. It's not a ton of money. In the grand scheme, it's 50 billion a year. So it's meaningful, but more importantly, it's poison. It's a CIA cutout. We've got Larry Taunton and the great Ben Berquhom that we're going to get up in a moment and talk about this, right? This is what's been funding the daring gap. And Elon Winto and his team went to it and he talked to the President. And President Trump says it's run by a bunch of lunatics. This thing has been a pool of cash for radical Democrats. The deep state, the administrative state, to turn against Americans, to turn against Americans. All the suppression of information of conservative voices. Mike Benz came on last night, did a magnificent job. Mike Benz always does, walking through why USAID has to be shut down immediately. I know Elon, those guys have been on his Twitter feed all the time, right? And Benz last night Elon put up our conversation with Benz and put it up on his site because you understand Ben's understands it. Elon, these guys and guess what they did. They locked that. They locked the administrative state and deep state guys out of the building. 600 they say you don't need to show up. Work from home. Since all the federal employees do it. Just work from home. Because now come in. I think they cut actual access to some of the numbers. I think they cut them off hard cut them off. And yesterday they had a protest. It was kind of sad. Jamie Raskin, the team out there. And look, I'm not supportive of everything Elon wants to do. I'm particularly concerned about the data. But I think that all get worked out. What I'd like is hammer blows are coming to the right places. Now my issue is how do we get to a trillion dollars now off that this is the question before us. 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Senator Maria Cantwell
Other picks like Gabbard that have been.
Stephen K. Bannon
Controversial, will they all get through?
Political Commentator
I think the betting at this point is that Trump runs the table. Now, obviously, anything can happen. We shouldn't make predictions, but he does not look like he is going to lose any of these nominees, as controversial as they might be. And again, doesn't mean the Republicans are necessarily all comfortable with it. But they have fallen in line. They recognize the political reality. Political reality is right now is Trump's Washington. He's getting his way. If they were to stand up to him, they would pay a price, and very few of them are willing to do that.
Stephen K. Bannon
Now.
Political Commentator
You know what's most striking about these nominees, particularly the ones we're talking about. RFK junior Tulsi Gabbard, Cash Patel, Pete Hegsad, these are people who are being put in place of agencies and departments specifically that they have in fact criticized deeply, whose very foundations, in some ways they would like to blow up or at least dismantle, revamp, what have you. And so this is going to be the start, not the end of a rather extraordinary experiment in effect in government which we're putting people in place who don't believe in the departments and agencies that they're running believe that they need to be completely uprooted and, and, and transform. Some people think that would be for the best, but a lot of people were worried in Washington right now.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, Todd Young, another news flash. Todd Young has just announced he's going to vote for Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard will be approved by the Intelligence Committee this afternoon. She will go the floor. She'll be approved for the United States Senate. I mean, we're going to have to, you know, it ain't over till it's over. But man, oh, man, you heard Peter Baker. You think that hurt? Peter Baker, you see, you know, Peter Baker, it's got that scrunched up face that's the very officious New York Times, the paper of record of your beloved republic telling you the way things are. Well, hey, the way things are right now, they're not happy. Plus, we're going to have cut in a few minutes. Harry Enton, the great pollster over cnn says he sums up his current polling. Trump is winning on his cabinet picks. Folks, don't, don't lean on your, don't lean on your, on your muskets here. But man, in your fixed band, a fantastic cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot. Say enough right there. He laid it out. Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Cash Patel, Bobby Kennedy all looks like they're going to get approved. And I'm just saying, if we hadn't blinked and hadn't gotten wobbly on Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz would be Pam, Bonnie's fantastic. She's going to do a great job. But we would have had Matt Gaetz as attorney general of the United States. Of that there's no doubt. Why is that? You can't beat maga. Can't do it. Resilience. They can't beat it. That's why they're freaking out now. They actually saw, they thought they were going to be a pick off at least one and maybe two and take it as a victory. Here about President Trump. Okay, more on this. I want to go something very special. We're going to go to Greenland live. Our own Tom Danz is there. Tom, walk me through. Why are you in Greenland? Why is it important? What is happening today that this audience, the War Room posse needs to know about?
Tom Danz
Hey, Steve, great to be with you. Great to be with the posse. Yeah. Coming to you live from the south of Greenland. And we're here because my organization, American Daybreak and really when I worked for President Trump in the first administration, I was at treasury and then I was an Arctic commissioner. But part of what is really important today in the moment is for Americans and really for the rest of the world to realize how closely intertwined our country has been with Greenland for so long and why it's so important. And so what we're here in the south of Greenland and you can see the American flag here flying at half staff. Behind us is we're at the site of the former main base in US base during World War II in Greenland called Bluey West 1. And in particular we're here the flags that have mass today because it symbolizes the sacrifices that Americans made in this war. And in particular, something that was celebrated yesterday called Four Chaplains Day. We have a bus coming down right here going to pass by us. But yeah, this is a little town of 130 people. But at one point we had 1400Americans here running. This is literally carved out of a mountain of rock in Greenland. Greenland, for those who aren't so familiar with it, you know, this is a country, I'm from Texas. This is a country three times the size of Texas with about 56,000 souls on it. So it's just an incredibly remote place place, but really only about three and a half, four hours flight time from the U.S. so this base is kind of what we call the front door part of North America. Greenland is part of North America. It's the Front door on our US east coast. And particularly when we talk about the sacrifices that were made here. That's four Chaplain's Day. So four Chaplain's Day is the national day of remembrance. It occurred yesterday. It recognizes the loss of the US army transport ship Dorchester which was torpedoed. It was on its way from New York City to this base here in Narsasuak. It was a multi day voyage. It was torpedoed by a Nazi submarine about 100 miles off the coast. Went down with the loss of 672 men, 659American Americans. If you can imagine, right now we're standing here, it's minus 5 degrees Fahrenheit. The sun's out. Last night it was minus 20 here. These men went down in 20 minutes in the ocean. Right? But there were four. This is part of the incredible story of heroism here. There were four chaplains aboard who had just been. They were newly minted first lieutenants in the U.S. army.
Stephen K. Bannon
And there were.
Tom Danz
Two of them were Protestants. There was a Methodist minister and there was a Reformed Dutch minister. There was a Roman Catholic priest and there was a Jewish rabbi. And they were essential because they were traveling on a ship. There were 902 men. So this was a commercial ship that had been turned in, requisitioned by the war authorities. It was being run by U.S. merchant Marines. Important. My grandfather, this is, was a U.S. merchant Marine and actually made this run. He wasn't on this ship, but he sailed back and forth to Greenland during the war and helped build the air base here afterwards. So that's how I come. But these were merchant mariners carrying army troops, civilians to work here. We had 13 different installations around Greenland that we built up.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Bannon's War Room
Episode 4243: RFK And MAHA Win Committee Vote
Release Date: February 4, 2025
In Episode 4243 of Bannon's War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the significant developments surrounding the confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) as the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the Intelligence Committee's vote, the political maneuvers influencing the process, and the broader implications for the Republican Congress and the MAGA movement.
The core focus of this episode is the Intelligence Committee's pivotal vote on RFK Jr.'s nomination to serve as the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The committee’s decision is crucial as it determines whether Kennedy will advance to a full Senate floor vote.
Political Analyst Insights ([00:00] - [03:37])
The episode opens with a political analyst discussing the dynamics within the committee. Senators Susan Collins and James Lankford have expressed support for Kennedy, while Todd Young remains undecided, facing significant online scrutiny, particularly from Elon Musk. The analyst emphasizes the likelihood of Young aligning with Trump’s stance due to past behavior and the potential backlash from the MAGA community if he votes against Kennedy.
Senator Bill Cassidy ([14:08] - [15:31])
Senator Cassidy delivers a strong endorsement of RFK Jr., highlighting Kennedy’s commitment to addressing America's chronic illness epidemic and advocating for healthcare transparency. Cassidy praises Kennedy's thorough responses during the committee hearings, noting:
"Mr. Kennedy has proven his commitment to the role of Secretary of the HHS and I will vote in favor of his nomination." ([14:30])
Cassidy urges his colleagues across the aisle to support Kennedy, emphasizing the potential positive impact on the nation's health care system.
Senator Ron Wyden ([15:31] - [21:06])
Contrasting Cassidy’s endorsement, Senator Ron Wyden vocally opposes Kennedy’s nomination. Wyden accuses Kennedy of spreading vaccine misinformation and lacking a fundamental understanding of Medicare and Medicaid. Key points from Wyden include:
"Mr. Kennedy has made 114 separate appearances in just the last four years where he has espoused anti-vaccine views or spread information about the efficacy of vaccines." ([15:31])
Wyden stresses the dangers of Kennedy overseeing the CDC and HHS, asserting that his appointment would jeopardize public health and undermine established scientific consensus.
Senator Maria Cantwell ([23:21] - [26:15])
Senator Cantwell echoes Wyden’s concerns, criticizing Kennedy’s stance on vaccines and his qualifications to lead the HHS. She underscores the importance of having a knowledgeable and trustworthy leader in charge of national health:
"Mr. Kennedy is manifestly unqualified for the job he seeks." ([23:23])
Cantwell emphasizes the necessity of safeguarding affordable healthcare and opposing conspiracy theories that could harm public health initiatives.
Senator Raphael Warnock ([26:28] - [28:55])
Senator Warnock further condemns Kennedy’s qualifications, highlighting his failure to commit to protecting access to affordable healthcare and his tendency to promote conspiracy theories over actionable health solutions:
"The last thing we need is a dilettante dabbling in conspiracy theories at HHS." ([26:38])
Warnock urges colleagues to prioritize the health and well-being of Americans over political agendas, advocating for a nominee who aligns with scientific integrity and effective healthcare management.
Committee Clerk and Senators ([28:55] - [30:05])
The committee proceeds to vote on RFK Jr.'s nomination. The final tally is a narrow 14-13 decision favoring Kennedy’s confirmation, predominantly along party lines. Notable moments include:
"The committee just voted to approve 14, 13 along party lines, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As secretary of Health and Human Services." ([30:25])
Following the vote, Bannon provides an in-depth analysis of the implications of Kennedy’s confirmation. He explores the fusion of the MAGA movement with efforts to "Make America Healthy Again," highlighting the mobilization of specific voter demographics, particularly parents concerned about healthcare and pharmaceutical industries. Bannon underscores the significance of the committee’s decision as a reflection of Trump’s enduring influence within the Republican Congress.
Key Points:
Trump’s Dominance: Bannon emphasizes that Trump's influence remains paramount, with Republican senators largely aligning with his nominations to avoid political backlash.
Strategic Campaigning: The successful confirmation of Kennedy underscores the effectiveness of coordinated grassroots efforts, including direct contact with senators and leveraging media platforms.
Future Implications: Bannon suggests that this vote sets a precedent for future nominations and the broader strategy of the Republican Party in consolidating power and advancing Trump-aligned policies.
In this episode, Bannon's War Room meticulously dissects the Intelligence Committee's close vote on RFK Jr.'s nomination, highlighting the intricate balance of political support, grassroots mobilization, and party loyalty. The episode underscores the significant role of Trump and his allies in shaping the Republican agenda, particularly in key Senate confirmations. As the episode concludes, Bannon anticipates further developments and potential challenges in the Senate's handling of controversial nominees, reinforcing the ongoing tension between establishment politics and grassroots movements within the GOP.
Notable Quotes:
Senator Bill Cassidy ([14:30]):
"Mr. Kennedy has proven his commitment to the role of Secretary of the HHS and I will vote in favor of his nomination."
Senator Ron Wyden ([15:31]):
"Mr. Kennedy has made 114 separate appearances in just the last four years where he has espoused anti-vaccine views or spread information about the efficacy of vaccines."
Senator Ron Wyden ([21:06]):
"Do senators want their legacy to include disregarding basic health science and instead elevate conspiracy theorists?"
Stephen K. Bannon ([30:25]):
"The committee just voted to approve 14, 13 along party lines, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As secretary of Health and Human Services."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions and outcomes of Episode 4243, providing listeners with a clear understanding of the pivotal committee vote, the stances of key senators, and the broader political strategies at play within the Republican Congress.