
Episode 4253: Persecution Of Christians; Oligarchs Paydays Are Over ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Stephen K. Bannon
Christians not got a free shot on.
Steve Bannon
All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Stephen K. Bannon
If that answer is to save my.
Steve Bannon
Country, this country will be saved.
Dave Brat
War Room.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, welcome back. Friday 7th February. Yer Valor 2025 Dave Brattle and folks, that's just the way it is. That that thing on the CR and the 14th is everything. You got to get that sorted first. Then you should be running around doing these reconciliations. And it's got to be two reconciliations. The reason has to be two reconciliations. The ICE guys are on any cash right now. Remember, we're in extra. We've hit the debt ceiling. So we're in extraordinary efforts on the debt ceiling right now. And there's cash around. You're not going to default on securities, but there's no additional cash out there. And ice, this is why they're going to Gitmo. ICE needs some money to kind of build some infrastructure, get this thing rolling. We got 10 million to 12 million illegal alien invaders. Got to go. Got to go home. Secretary of State Rubio is cutting deals down in Central America with the frontline nations, but it's all needs and needs some needs, some cash. So, brat, you've done this drill many times. Poke holes in my logic, sir. Because I want, I go to people and say, tell me where I'm wrong. And they go, I get them. They're in the mumble tank. And then finally, Tom Massey, with that MIT brain, just puts it out there. Boom. What he said is a short tweet, Grace. If you can put it into the, into the, the chat. And it's not that, oh, Tom Massey doesn't support the president. This is not about supporting the president. Not about supporting the president or not supporting the president. We're making a case that if nothing's done in President Trump's first year, you going to have Joe Biden's budget. That's just, that's just a technical reality. So, Brad, punch holes in it yeah.
Brad
Not many holes to punch. I mean, the only hole is the amount of revenues we're going to get out of the External Revenue Service. I'm all in favor of going big hard on China across the board and decoupling for many reasons. We got to be very smart and strategic on the order of all that with, you know, with rare earth minerals. And I get all that. But my memory just goes back when I was in. It was first give us the House, then the Senate, then the White House. We got all three and then we didn't do anything because the House and the Senate were scared of losing members. And it's the same logic today. They're scared of losing a member or two. There needs to be just a tremendous gestalt shift. Right. Or a Thomas Kuhnian revolution in psychology, which you're helping to bring about. We, you know, you're going Old Testament today. Moses came down with his list of 10 and threw them down on the ground and wrecked God's word because he was so upset with the people.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
Brad
And then you got John the Baptist, you got Churchill yelling out in the wilderness by himself. You've been yelling out in the wilderness. But you're having an amazing effect on this country. And so the budget numbers aren't going to do the trick.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's.
Brad
It's got to be a grassroots effort on the House, contacting your House and Senate members politically and putting the fear of God in them. Right. I think it's Proverbs.
Stephen K. Bannon
Fear of.
Brad
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. And that's what we got to get straight that Thomas, if you had 200 Thomas Massey's in the House conference, there wouldn't be any wars, there wouldn't be any 36 trillion debt, there wouldn't be any border invasion, etc.
Stephen K. Bannon
Right.
Brad
So that's. We got to get 200 solid.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay.
Brad
Members.
Stephen K. Bannon
So. So Warren Posse. We're not, we're not to the point of calling because we got to work through a plan and think this through. I'm just laying it out there and hey, what day, Brad saying poke holes in my argument. I'm hopeful. External revenue. We actually came up with this concept here with John Gardner on War Room at the Political Talk. And I'm a huge believer in President Trump's strategy and this is brilliant. But you're 100% correct. I'm not sure it's going to be a ton of cash in the first year. Every time they talk to you about 4 trillion cuts and 5 trillion cuts and 7 trillion cuts and all this. They're talking 10 years because they have a statute says you have to do things in 10 years. It's irrelevant. You can do. It's fine. The only thing that matters, like in any restructuring is this year and next year. Let's get through that first and let's show how we're getting towards a balanced budget. We're not going to get there. Let's just show how we're going to get to Scott Bessens, the Secretary Treasury's 3% of GDP. We're essentially at 6 and a half percent now. It's not sustainable. This is why inflation's not going to totally go away because now it's embedded in the financing cost of, you know, 20% or a third of refinancing. 36, 37, 38, 39, $40 trillion of debt where you never pay down a penny of principal. We will never pay down a penny of principal because now the gross interest charges are going to be what, $1.4 trillion larger than the defense budget. Oh, by the way. Which has to be cut.
Steve Bannon
Dave, Brett, you going to be back.
Stephen K. Bannon
With us at five, brother. Where do people get you in the interim?
Brad
Yeah, Brad. Economics. Get her. It turns out my young people threw me up on X without me knowing. And I might be. I'll announce that tonight at 5. The young people are trying to get me active.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
Brad
But I'm glad to see Amon Chukwa coming out. He'll throw down a little Old Testament for you.
Stephen K. Bannon
He'll give you pastor. But that's what we're going to bring now. Dave Brown, see you back here at 5. We'll have a big announcement. Brett's expanding social media empire. Pastor John Amachuka Amanchukwa joins us. I'll cut that to Pastor John. So tell me today I want to bring a fire breather on. I already had Lance Wall now who's calm and you know, calm demeanor, but he's a fire breather. You're probably one of my best, the country's best.
Steve Bannon
The task force that Pam Bondi is.
Stephen K. Bannon
Leading on making sure there's no more anti Christian bias in the government and no attacks on individual Christians. Plus the faith office today, President Trump in two days around the National Prayer Breakfast went yard.
Steve Bannon
Is this just more perform?
Stephen K. Bannon
Is this performative or is this real? Pastor John?
Pastor John Amanchukwa
This is the real deal. You know, to create a task force to fight against anti Christian bias and bigotry. You know, with the support of Pam Bondi and Paula White, this is what America needs. Just keep in mind, Merrick Garland labeled parents as domestic terrorists. Why? Because they didn't want books like this to be in the school system. Genderqueer. They didn't want books like this, Sparkle Boy to be in the school system for the children to read. They didn't want books like this entitled Worm Loves Worm, that talks about same sex marriage to kids ages 4 through 8. They didn't want that. And so what President Trump is doing is that he's holding true to his promises.
Stephen K. Bannon
He.
Pastor John Amanchukwa
He said that we will see a golden age in America. The Bible tells us this, that righteousness exalts a nation and sin is a reproach towards any people. And President Trump is holding truth to form. He campaigned on these things and he's doing it. But we must also keep in mind that the icing on the cake is this new faith office. But there's something else that we need to do. We need to rectify what the demonic and diabolical man Lyndon B. Johnson did in 1989, 1854, with the Johnson Amendment, he found a creative way to shackle the hands of the Christian church, in particular Christian pastors, to keep them muzzled so they won't speak up and out against policies that the Democrat Party was pushing. We need to repeal the Johnson amendment. And that will be sprinkles on the cake. But I see today that there's a plan clearly on the left. They're not gonna sit back and sit on the sideline and allow President Trump to move forward with this agenda. They're already talking about impeaching him. And who do they hate the most? They don't hate President Trump. They hate the God of this book. They hate the God of the Bible. And when you consider people like Alice Bailey and Margaret Sanger And Madeline Murray O'Hare, who labored to remove prayer from the public school system and the Bible, these are the kind of individuals that President Trump is still fighting America. We have elected number 45 and number 47, and he's holding true to the things that he promised us. And I celebrate that.
Stephen K. Bannon
What do you hope to see out of the task force? What will you hope to see out of the faith office? Because they're two different things. And what would your potential role be? Or other evangelical pastors like yourself, sir?
Pastor John Amanchukwa
Well, first and foremost, we want to keep the federal government from telling pastors what they can and can't say. You know, there's this lie that the Constitution includes, this line that there's a separation of church and state and that's not true. Thomas Jefferson mentioned that in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association. He talked about a wall of separation and the plan was to keep the state from infringing upon the church and not vice versa. And so that's where we are today. So first and foremost, we need to repeal the, the Johnson Amendment. I want to see that take place. I also want to position ourselves where we can get back to allowing the Bible and school sponsored prayer to be recited in schools all across this country every day. Christianity is the foundation of American civilization and American exceptionalism. America would not be exceptional if it weren't for Judeo Christian principles. So I want to see school sponsored prayer and school systems all around this country. And to get back to the Ten Commandments, we want to see that take place. Also. We want to make sure that when Christians go to school, they're not demonized, you know, grades K through 12 by their professors and or by their teachers. There was a young girl in Chatham county who really got me into this fight nationally to lead me towards going to 18 states and speaking up for children. There was a young girl in Chatham county who was demonized for a Christian faith. Her teacher told her that believing in Jesus was tantamount to believing in a brick wall. That should never happen. But under the Trump administration and with this new faith office, we're going to see things like that dissipate and we'll be able to have a school system that builds up our children from the bottom up and reminds them of the great heritage that we have in this country when it comes to Christianity.
Stephen K. Bannon
Pastor John, where can people get you? Where do they go for your fight? One for the kids in the schools, but also for your mission about Christianity and making sure that we get a government that does not persecute Christians, which has been happening. I mean, we have to face a quite unpleasant fact. Where do people go to partner with you?
Pastor John Amanchukwa
Yes, you can go to inogod us. I'm leading a national campaign going from state to state. I've now been to 18 states leading this campaign. We're fighting against critical race theory, gender theory and queer theory. Go to inogod us. You can follow me there and support me there as well.
Stephen K. Bannon
Pastor John, thank you so much. Appreciate you.
Pastor John Amanchukwa
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
God bless you. We're going to jump, I think, at the bottom of the hour, so a lot more. I want to get through the Prime Minister of Japan. There's going to be, I think arriving momentarily at the White House may be there. They're going 11:30 as soon as President Trump he has these bilats. What happens is that the dignitaries show up at that the circular driveway or sometimes through the side door depending where they it's easier to do the ceremony. They come in and President Trump will then go to the Oval Office and normally go through the site into the West Wing. President Trump takes him and they have a bide light. They have a few minutes to themselves to together catch up, give some greetings. Then President Trump will normally then bring in the press early for some questions etc. And then he will do a longer private meeting there and then they'll go out to the press conference. This is what he did with Bibi the other day. I anticipate it'll be the same way here that 11:30. It looks like maybe a press avail. We'll go to I think our own Brian Glenn will be in the Oval if we do that. And then they'll have the continuation of the bilateral meeting and then later they go around the 1:00 time and Rilla America's voice will cover it. You'll have the press conference from the East Room and then President Trump's leaving early today to go to Mar a Lago for super bowl weekend and Jane Zirkel will has got some questions hopefully in the press pool to ask him down there. So it's a lot going on today. Natalie Winters will be with us at 5:00 to wrap up intense day in the white as President Trump has just announced. Reuters broke another thing he talked about last night is re emphasized today reciprocal tariffs. Is this not the situation with the emergency use of the tariffs for the national security crisis on the southern border of Fentanyl Also talking about. He's also talking about reciprocal tariffs. What does this mean? Times of turbulence. Think the S and p is down 70 points. S&P 400 I think or 500 down. Remember the 400 industrials and the 500 includes some of the financials. I always say for a pure look at America's industrial might always check the S&P 400. One of those are down 70 points. It's a time of turbulence. That's why Birch Gold take your phone out ban and just text Bannon at 989-898. They've got a great brochure out investing in gold in times of turbulence and investing in gold in the age of Trump. So go check it out because President Trump and trying to restructure this government and trying to cut massive spending and trying to get populist tax policies in the global capital markets is going to be a little. It's going to be a little bumpy. So buckle up and check with Birch Gold, Philip Patrick and the team. Those are you guys. Go check with birchgold.com Bannon online. Reach out to Philip Patrick. Short commercial break. You're in the war room. Back in a moment. We've seen all the headlines.
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Mike Lindell
Understand the first few weeks of the second Trump administration. Go back and listen to what Steve Bannon told PBS's Frontline in 2019.
Stephen K. Bannon
The opposition party is the media. And the media can only because they're dumb and they're lazy. They can only focus on one thing at a time. All we have to do is flood.
Steve Bannon
The zone every day.
Stephen K. Bannon
We hit them with three things, they'll bite on one and we'll get all of our stuff done. Pang, bang, bang.
Steve Bannon
These guys will never, will never be able to recover. But we got to start with muzzle velocity. So it's got to start and it's got a hammer. Muzzle velocity.
Mike Lindell
Muzzle velocity. Bannon's insight there is real focus is a fundamental substance of democracy. It is particularly the substance of opposition. People largely learn of what the government is doing through the media. So if you overwhelm the media, a.
Andrew
Record setting number of executive orders, everybody pardoned, violence, non violence, including assaulting police officers, birthright citizenship. We live in unprecedented times right now.
Mike Lindell
If you keep it moving from one thing to the next.
Stephen K. Bannon
So far, so good.
Andrew
Is this legal?
Mike Lindell
If you give it too many places, it needs to look, you've never been.
Andrew
Deported before that to the field all at once.
Stephen K. Bannon
All federal grants and loans will be halted.
Andrew
Look, there is a purge happening, frankly.
Stephen K. Bannon
Unprecedented in its nature. Guantanamo dei, the Gulf of America.
Mike Lindell
No coherent opposition can really emerge. It is hard to even think coherently. Donald Trump's first two weeks in the White House have followed Bannon's strategy like a script. The flood is a point. The overwhelm is a point. The message wasn't in any one executive order or announcement. It was in the cumulative effect of all of them. The sense that this is Trump's country now, it is his government now. It follows his will, it does what he wants, that he is limitless. He says that birthright citizenship is over, then it's over.
Andrew
Shutting down usaid, shutting down the Department of Education. There is a whole now parallel agenda that I don't know how much Trump understands it or cares about it, but it's Elon's agenda. Yeah, and the Elon Musk agenda, our co president, which is unfortunately. You know, we've talked, I've talked on this show and in other places about one of the most interesting tensions in Trump's political coalition between the Bannon wing and the swing. This is the place where Bannon and Musk are aligned. Bannon wants the deconstruction. Administrative state is exactly what Elon Musk wants. Bannon wants it for maybe slightly different reasons, maybe less, slightly less for personal enrichment than Musk. But they both want to tear everything down. They're both Heath Ledger in the, in the second Dark Knight movie. They just want to watch the world burn. They want to, they want to tear these, these, these, these institutions down. And Trump has that quality too. That's not about retribution, that's just about nihilism. Right. But that's what Elon Musk is a very effective at doing is knowing how to send five really brilliant computer programmers who don't know anything about concerns about like, well, what would happen to classified documents. Her name's got out. But know how to get inside the bowels of the Treasury Department's payment systems and extract the information that they need for whatever purposes. And how to effectively shut down an independent agency like USAID in a weekend of work. Right. That's like. That's the parallel agenda that goes in perfect tandem with the retributive agenda. It is the slight place where Musk and Trump come together. Trump's not. Musk is not retributive. Trump is not fully deconstructed. I don't think he Understands any of those words. Deconstruction, administrative state, but tearing stuff down.
Charlie Kirk
Great.
Andrew
And they're kind of, they're working in devilish tandem now. And I think that part of the challenge here is how do you address all of that?
Dave Brat
Looks to me as if, as if Musk has chosen AID as kind of a demonstration project just to see how he can destroy an agency and demoralize the rest of the federal workforce. My question for Andrew is let's assume that you are right, that Marco Rubio just inherently is not insane, that he understands the good that AID was doing and that within the State Department he wants to recreate some of this, maybe quietly, but he knows that we need to have it. But how long would it take? How difficult would it be even if he wanted to sort of put it back together now that it's been utterly smashed? Isn't that a long term project?
Unknown Speaker
It is. You destroy an institution, you don't rebuild it overnight. And I might add, the State Department is, I mean, I have great respect for the State Department. They're the best diplomats in the world. I was a diplomat for a while as President Bush's envoy to Sudan. But they are not operational. They cannot deploy disaster assistance response teams, which AID sends all over the world. They hire generalists in the Foreign Service. AID hires specialists. You have to have an advanced degree to work in the Foreign Service. And aid, you can't get hired. Which means PhDs, medical doctors, agricultural economists, agricultural scientists. We have logisticians. How do you think food aid gets moved? It doesn't just appear magically. You have to have people, Experts in logistics. 294 people to spend. To spend $38 billion. What are they, idiots? And they're not going to. The hiring systems in the State Department, I have to say, are very slow. AID has slowed down in recent years, but when I was there, we could hire someone in a couple of months. I do think changes need to be made. But the problem is not in aid.
Stephen K. Bannon
The problem is enough of. No, the problem is in aid, in the deconstruction of the administrative state. And this is where we do all come together. President Trump understands this. You must take this apparatus apart and get down to what you actually need in a limited government to maximize liberty of the people and also to perform some basic functions. I'm not saying it shouldn't be regulation or regulatory apparatus. Nobody's talking about that. But usaid, and this is why it's such a perfect one to start with. There's no good that comes out of it, this is all a slush fund. It's a CIA cutout. Plus you've seen what it's done on funding the NGOs and invasion of the southern border and what it's done to suppress speech in this country. And now we're finding out. Viktor Orban today announced he wants to see every penny usaid, the US Government spent on funding these media companies in Hungary. They're going after him. This, what USAID did was outrageous and it's a perfect example for us to focus on because for years, not just House Freedom Caucus, but pro Liberty people in the House on the Republican side went after usaid and it was backed up by the Paul Ryan's that wouldn't even let people get in there and do audits. Wouldn't even let people get in there and have any systematic or meaningful review. This is what you mean by controlled opposition when I say, hey, we didn't get into this position by just radical Democrats running wild. Of course they ran wild. But they were allowed to run wild by the controlled opposition Republicans who were too afraid to take the incoming and take the heat. They wanted to get invited to the cocktail parties in Georgetown and be called, you know, like Mike Turner. When Mike Turner, you know, from Dayton, Ohio, flipped when he took over the Intelligence Committee. Everybody up on Capitol Hill says you're a statesman, you're a big thinker. You know, you're projecting American soft power abroad, all this nonsense for a CIA cutout that's doing nothing but damage and promoting the agenda of the American empire, of which we're not an empire. We're a revolutionary country. We were founded on a revolutionary idea. We wouldn't be part of an empire. And so for post World War II, the Hegemon, and particularly with the collapse of the Soviet Union under President Reagan, the evil empire they come the hegemon under Bush 43. And then the thinking of the hegemon. This is how we gave total and complete power to the apartheid oligarchs in Silicon Valley who are now looking for a bailout. This is. Let me give you a dirty secret. Let me have, let's have a moment of enlightening enlightenment, because we want it here. One of the things that we'll talk to adults like they're adults. And I finish with that, finish with that cover Time magazine and do a split screen. Why do I keep saying cross the Potomac? Cross the Potomac and go to the Pentagon? Well, after I came off sea duty as a junior officer, I was a special assistant to the chief of Naval Operations and had the honor of working there in really what's called the CNO's executive board. That's not some panel. That's really the 12 flag officers that made up the senior command of the Navy. We can do a split screen on that if you want. And so I saw the way the apparatus works in particular, I saw the way the apparatus works of material acquisitions and shipbuilding. And this is President Reagan's. I was in the first years of President Reagan, it was building a 600 ship Navy. Remember that. You might be old enough to remember that. We're going to go I think from under 300 ships to a 600 ship navy. As Mahan's strategy of taking over kind of the British Empire's Royal Navy to choke down the power in the Eurasian landmass that would be then the Soviet Union. And that was going to be quite expensive. But I saw that going. I saw the meetings. I was sat in the meetings as a junior officer. I was a grundoon, but I come off sea duty. So you know, I was, I don't know, 25, 26 years old, taking notes. And so I saw the apparatus, I saw how it worked as a young man. Made a lasting impression. And the people over there are good people. They're patriots. They're trying to do the right thing. It's a system that's out of control. And now it's at $900 billion. We must cut federal spending. The number one existential threat to the United States is the Chinese Communist Party and inextricably linked our debt. And they understand this and we're hurtling down a path. There are no easy alternatives. How do I know that? I just saw the OMB memo go out before Russ vote. The great Russ vote, by the way, shows up today in his first day of work, even saying where all the money is in the system. Caused a riot on Capitol Hill, caused a meltdown with the Republican members down at Doral for their conference hearing. So shake they were so shaken up. Their 10 year budget had $318 billion of cuts over 10 years. That's $31 billion a year. Over 10 years. Over 10 years. It's a joke. Oh. In addition, they had another $350 billion of increased spending. This is about political will and addressing things head on. Why do they not want to cross the Potomac? Why do they not want to go south of the Potomac? Why do they not want to take the bridges and go to the Pentagon? Because Silicon Valley is inextricably linked to the Pentagon's budget. The oligarch's payday is over in the Pentagon. It's over in Arlington, right there. That's why Amazon, that's why Pentagon City right next to the Pentagon is all the new high tech hub. Proximity is power, right? Short commercial break.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, we're gonna have a split screen, if we can do that. Denver, there we go, right there. Prime Minister Sheba, I think momentarily would come for a meeting with President States. Remember, the President was very close to Abe, who was assassinated, gunned down in the streets. Think of Tokyo, right? President took that hard. He's very close to Abe. He and Abe. He's the. Abe is the only guy I've seen the President, it wasn't 36 holes. I think they played 27 the first time. Abe was the first one to come and see him. We left, it was about this time, maybe a week later, we left the White House and went down to Mar A Lago and the President and Abe. Abe was as much a golfer as President Trump. They played 18 holes and Abe says, hey, how about another nine? And they went back out, just the two of them with the caddies and in the Secret Service and played another nine holes. I think they wanted to play 36. But he had that kind of relationship with Abe. And every time he went to Japan, they played one of the great courses in Japan. So President Trump was personally had a very, very strong relationship, very deep relationship with Prime Minister Abe. Prime Minister Shiba is there today, obviously, huge talks about the Japanese defense budget. The talks today will be about trade. They're going to be about terrorists. President Trump, this is why he said reciprocal tariffs. I'm sure he's going to have a conversation with the Japanese about that. His External Revenue Service is very high on the president's mind. Because if that cash comes in, maybe you have to do less cutting. Maybe you don't have to increase taxes on anybody, particularly the wealthy. Maybe you have bigger tax cuts, maybe even tax on. No tax on bonuses, which something they've talked about, more populous tax cuts. President's trying to juggle a lot. But the central part of the conversation, besides trade, will be around national security in the first island chain in the Pacific, and that'll be Taiwan, Guam, all of it, with the Japanese committing, I think, to rewrite their constitution, do other things to make sure they're more aggressive and spend more money in defense. I also think a big part of the conversation is going to be South Korea. There's essentially a coup going on there, and the Chinese Communist Party is in back of it, and that has to be addressed. Korea is a dagger. The Korean Peninsula is a dagger pointed at the heart of Japan. Remember, Korea and Japan have had a very, very, very troubled history, very troubled history. Things happened during World War II. And if folks think that things that happen in Nazi Germany, in Poland, in the mainland China, things happen in China that still today fire up the Chinese people, the Korean people still furious about a lot of the activity that went on with the Japanese in, in Korea. And the Japanese had a history of, of trying to dominate Korea. So that'll be a big, big discussion today, because the Koreans, who used to be one of our greatest allies, there's something going in Korea. Probably 25% to a third of the young people, I would say, lean towards kind of pro ccp. It's all got to be addressed. And the Japanese have to step up to the plate. When I talk about cutting the defense budget, one of the reasons is, is as we think about the hemispheric defense strategy of President Trump, remember from Greenland, the Arctic, all the way down to the Panama Canal, and then with Latin America, having people like the Bolsonars, people like Melaye to drive the Chinese Communist Party out of the Amazon and out of really Latin America and really come to what I guess now It's Monroe Doctrine, 5.0. But as he talks about hemispheric defense, it means that we can then pick and choose where we are throughout the world. Obviously, Japan is a, is a great ally. President Trump's always been very upset about how they haven't treated us great in trade. So there'll be some testy conversations, just like the other day with Netanyahu. People talk about Gaza, Gaza, Gaza. One of the most important things. You didn't come out of there. And I know this is important to Tucker and other people and myself. There was no commitment. You didn't hear a lot of talk that you had Lindsey Graham running around on Fox all the time about some sort of military confrontation with the Persians. President Trump, I think, is trying to tamp things down right now and trying to tamp it down in a logical way. I also would recommend that news coming out of Ukraine I think is not great because I think President Trump continues to get tapped along by these people. And my point would be to cut, particularly when Dzlonski came out and said, I've only got $77 billion. Okay, bro, you're saying the quiet part out loud. Maybe we have to rethink this entire thing. Also, President Trump even talking about taking the rare earths and the other mineral rights in Ukraine to pay for all this means you have further engagement in Ukraine, I think. And although they got great mineral rights, I think disengagement is the best on that part of the Eurasian landmass. So prime minister will be here. He'll come through. That's the West Wing entrance right there. They do, when they take them, there's a little reception area. They take them right to the Oval Office. There'll be a, you know, the prime minister in one chair, one of the gold chairs in front of the fireplace, President Trump in the other. They'll have some exchanges. The staffs will talk, kind of get together. Then President Trump, I believe, is going to have oppressor. Clearly it won't happen. It won't happen in. During our show. We thought it might happen. 11:30 today. Real America's voice. Charlie Kirk's up next. I'm sure they're cut in because President Trump's always saying provocative things in the days of thunder. During that and particularly markets. I want to know. They want to know about these reciprocal tariffs. President Trump doesn't do anything that's not kind of, you know, thought through. He just dropped that bomb yesterday with Reuters because the Prime Minister of Japan, it's always been a, he's had a big problem with Japan being such a closed market to American, to American goods and particularly American automobiles where they sell so many automobiles here, although now they make a lot more than they used to. Warpath Coffee. Tage Gill, Warpath Coffee. Make sure we get jacked up in the morning with it. It's the best. What I'm really proud talking to people last night about this. Met with some, some of the magazine people, were talking a little bit about some of the companies, our sponsors of Warpath Coffee. I gave the story of Taj Gill, Navy seal. All the great equipment but what he wanted was coffee that was good as the Navy, the Navy SEALs, you know, guns and parachutes and, and the frogman gear, they, they do. And Taj took years out of his life when he left the service and he was a contractor, as many of these guys are. He took years of his life to do this. 6505 star reviews. Go check it out. Today it's Warpath coffee. And you put in war room, you get a 20% discount by the way, when I'm talking. You can put those up. And we get back to the split screen home title lock. They've got this new offer I want to make sure everybody knows about. It's the million dollar triple lock protection from hometitlelock.com you get 247 monitoring, you get urgent alerts for any changes. So nearly in the middle of night you get an urgent alert for any change and then you get a restoration team will spend up to a million bucks, $1 million to fix the fraud and restore your title. It's the million dollar triple lock in its protection boom 247 alert immediately. And if something happens, they have a restoration team that will, that will get to that. So make sure you go check it out today. What have we been talking about all morning? Taxes. Just to go back through. President Trump put out an eight point plan on taxes yesterday after this four hour meeting, what jumped off the page at me was the commitment to the tax cuts on Social Security that over the life of, or at least over 10 years, I think so over a trillion dollars. It's a couple hundred. I mean it's a, it's a big deal. It's a big deal for you, particularly if you reach retirement age. It'll put significantly more money in your pocket, which is what you need. Social Security is not much, not much. But the taxes will put additional spending money It'd be great because you guys, unlike giving the cactus to the wealthy, because then you get the whole thing, they can reinvest it, but they actually spend it as a marginal spending. You guys will spend it or tuck it away for a rainy day, as you guys often want to do, as the working class and middle class people do. But that's a, that's a real cut. And if the, if the, if the, if the external revenues, I think it's going to take a while for those to kick in. President Trump's got a real idea about that. He's thinking through. It's a big idea, it's a powerful idea. You've got to get to the spending. And this is why I think we have to have from the Doge guys right now, before the one year CR which is coming, we have to have just a general idea blocked out. Could we cut 500 billion this year? Could we cut 100 billion? If we just cut USAID, then let's cut it, let's zero it. I think it should be zero. I think it should go from 40 to 50 billion to zero. But I strongly believe you can't be over Social Security. And even if you're looking for data, if you're looking to rewire it, even look at waste, fraud, abuse, which is all important, very important, you got to get over to the Pentagon. If you don't show the imperial capital, you're prepared to take on the Pentagon, you're sending a signal that you're weak, just starve. You can sit here and you go through geopolitically, you could build a plan that if you get aggressive against our number one existential threat, the Chinese Communist Party, and the debt that's linked with our financing them and gutting the country goes. How do we get in this situation, the trade deficit and the real deficits are. And I've always said, and Lou Dobbs said, and President Trump believes this, all the Wall street people don't. It's the, it's two sides of the same coin. In gutting the country and gutting the manufacturing, it made us more dependent upon foreign sources. That's why you have these huge trade deficits. And no, when people say, oh, the money's fungible, we can be a service economy, you can't. An advanced nation has to have an advanced, major massive physical capital and a manufacturing base. Manufacturing base provides high value added paying jobs, principally to men, women too, but principally to men. This is why we have 70 million men that are not in the workforce, those are not white Men, it's whites, blacks, Hispanics, everybody. I think there's 72 million men that are not in the labor force. Now. A country like ours can't, you can't go on. If men, and these are working age men. This is not the old guys like myself who still feel they got a lot of fight left in them. I'm talking about, I'm talking about working age men. You have to do that. You do that, you stop the trade deficit. Trade deficit is $100 billion in December. $100 billion. Almost all that tied to China. And of course they try to lie. Oh, this is Trump's threat of tariffs. They're all front loaded. No, it was been categorically shown by economists. That didn' happen. We're just having increasing trade deficits. People, you know, they're devaluing the currency. China's playing every game in the world to keep that manufacturing base and they're very shaky. That's part, that's part of President Trump's tariffs. Remember, you don't have to pay the tariff to get in the golden market. You know, the paid. If you, if you move the manufacturing here, you don't have to pay it. That's part of the thing he's doing with Germany. He's telling Germany, hey, we're not going to let you game the system anymore. We're not going to let you because you have the high tariffs in Germany. We do that, you get to Mexico and you're going to build it all in Mexico and just ship it across the border at the lower wage rates and really gut American car manufacturing. We're not going to allow that to happen. President Trump's going to have a tough conversation here in a moment in the Oval Office with the Japanese prime minister. The topic is going to be trade and it's going to be defense. And when he says reciprocity on tariffs, he means Japan. He's not digging that. Not, he's not into that at all. So you got, you got to take that. So back to Tax Network. We have a problem here in the country. You don't have enough tax revenues coming in. President Trump's cutting taxes in one regard, but he's increasing tax. Increase in taxes on billionaires right there by the sports team. Not a lot of money, but symbolically very important. Taking away carried interest, not a ton of money. It's good. Throwing something in the kitty. It has to be done because Wall Street's getting current income and paying capital gains taxes on it, which you couldn't get because they've they've allowed current income to be rolled up into kind of capital gains. Not fair. It's not fair at all. It's got to stop. But tax network USA just go taxnetwork usa.com ban and go there right now. They'll tell you quickly where they can help you or not. If you got a tax problem, don't put this letter from the IRS in the drawer. That's not going away. It's out of sight. But it shouldn't be out of mind. You should be worried about it until you engage these experts. And if they tell you they can't help you, they can't help you, then you call them up and you fight the IRS yourself. Tax Network USA, tnusa.com the Prime Minister for Japan is going to be here in a moment. We're going to take a short commercial break as we should. I'm going to speak the people of Patriot Mobile, Brian Glenn and these guys have been so, so great to invite me down on the 28th of February to Tarrant County. Posobic's going to be with me. Amanda Millius is going to be with me. A whole bunch of other nefarious characters. We're going to have a good old time. I'm going to give a keynote speech Post office on speak. Amanda Milius is going to be great. Others we get if we put the put it up, you can see it and go to the website. Tarrant County, Tarrant County Republican Party brought to you by Patriot Mobile. This is Glen Story and the team really stepping up to the plate. Okay, there we are right there. Make sure Mo and Grace get it in the chat. When everybody in the local area and I spend time beforehand visit everybody. Short commercial break. We're going to come back. We're waiting for the prime minister of Japan, as is the president United States. We'll kick it all off in just a moment in the war room.
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Okay. Welcome back. That's a full shot of the honorary entrance to the West Wing. There's a small greeting area on the other side of that where the columns are to the left. You're seeing the Foshard. There you come, right there. This is the Prime Minister of Japan. Smotorcade's pulling up. That's the Executive office building right in the back. That's where most of the White House personnel work. Now the President should be there to meet him. Don't know if we're going to get a shot at that, but there's Prime Minister Shibe arriving for his. For his meeting with the President of the United States. He's going to be greeted. I think that's the President right there. Handshake. Take a few photographs for the. For the journalist. Back off, you get a shot. President Trump, a deep relationship with Japan. Like I said, a strong personal relationship. Strong personal relationship with Abe. Abe and the president had a. Really got along personally. As people play golf. You know when you play golf with a guy that you like playing golf with, the give and take, the kidding, the teasing. You can see the other two. They really had a. And this is the rest of the Japanese delegation showing up and back. So let's pull the camera back. Fantastic. What a beautiful shot. That right there is a press wrangler. You see, see the young woman right there? She's got one of the hardest jobs in the White House wrangling the media. You see them wrangling right there, the shots. So some more of the staff going on. That's the entrance up top to the West Wing of the White House. That's kind of the, the main official entrance in back of the camera. Just keep the camera right there. If you go to the left is the main entrance of the residence. That's where people sometimes pull up when they're the residents with Melania and the President. But this is The West Wing, the working side. Now what the President will do will go and lead past the Roosevelt Room to the Oval Office and they'll be in the Oval Office. This is called a bilat, a bilateral. See the flags out there honoring both countries? There's some of the official military guard right there. They will go into the Oval Office and they'll spend a few minutes and they'll discuss and talk with each other, catch up and then normally what the President likes to do is allow the press. The flags come down when people are inside. So we know right now the President and the Prime Minister are inside. What happens that they then have a, they then have a few minutes to catch up. The President loves bringing the press in before he's really had the longer bilat right there. The honor guard, U.S. navy, Marine Corps. Not too shabby. Looking pretty squared away this morning. I think we passed inspection. See they're going back now underneath the portico. President likes bringing the press into the Oval and it's always crowded. The Oval Office is not that big. He'll bring the press and they'll be behind the sofas looking, taking a camera shot to the fireplace. There's the Executive Office Building right there. That's where most of the, most of the people work. Very few offices in the West Wing. Very tiny. I keep saying it's a relatively old two story building on top of a military command center which is the National Security Council apparatus. That's down below with the Kennedy Room and all the famous rooms. There we are. Great shot. Real America's voice. Fantastic. I love that seeing the color guard walk out. Now they're going out, they're actually going towards what the main entrance to the, to the residences. This is back right across the lawn of the, of the White House or the sidewalk that goes across the lawn. The President will invite the press in for a presser. And that's where you see these questions just thrown. And they'll always wait the way the, the group because they cannot let all the press in. They will. There's the main, there's the main protocol for the White House right there as we talked about. And the press will take questions, they'll be shouting them normally. They'll have more international media and more East Asian and Japanese media, Korean media, Chinese there. When someone like the Prime Minister of Japan is there, he'll take questions and then they'll leave. The wrangler, that young woman you just saw, and there's others. And the wranglers are tough jobs because the media is very rambunctious they should be. They're trying to get their scoops. They're trying to get their photographs or try and get their question answered. Our own Jane Zirkel, Brian Glenn are as good as they get. Tossing out and getting a question asked, getting a question answered. That's what these folks get paid for. I can tell you it's less snarky today than it was the first first term was just unbearable. You get in there, it was all about Comey, all about everybody. So then the president will have a longer bilateral. He'll sit there and that's where he'll bring up these contentious issues of the tariffs and trade. He'll bring up the contentious issue. They got to pay more for their defense. They'll talk about the Chinese Communist Party and our joint efforts there. And then they will take a few minutes, hang out, maybe even go to the Roosevelt Room, maybe even have a quick bite of lunch. And then they'll go and have a, they'll go to the East Room of the White House. That's where the military guard is going here is all the west side. On the other side is the East. That's where the vice first lady's office is. But the East Room, the famous room on the other side of the White House, all the press conference or Netanyahu's press conference and that where it will be today with the press. And the president will break news both at his press availability in the Oval Office and the press conference today. So it's a full day. Real America's voice wall, there's a beautiful White House. That's the portico. That's kind of the front of the White House. The side with the port of the big porch, multilevel porch is on the other side facing the Washington Monument in the Ellipse where President Trump gave that famous speech on January six. That's all right in back here. Let's go.
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Let's do a split screen. Let's bring Mike up. But I want to keep that beautiful shot of the White House. Love the camera work today of the director on Real America's Voice. You guys are on fire right now saying give a little play by play commentary. I don't care if it's Appalachia or la. We'll wing it somehow. Mike Lindell today, real quickly, Sir Christian, they're going to have a Paula White. They're going to sign a thing about the faith office they had the task force set up yesterday. Your thoughts about that and then talk to me about the Crosses and the pillows.
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Episode Summary: Persecution Of Christians; Oligarchs Paydays Are Over
Bannon's War Room Episode 4253, released on February 7, 2025, delves into pressing national and international issues, primarily focusing on the persecution of Christians and the dismantling of oligarchic financial structures. Hosted by Stephen K. Bannon of WarRoom.org, the episode features insightful discussions with political strategists, religious leaders, and economic experts. The conversation navigates through the challenges facing Christian communities, the strategies to combat governmental and media biases, and the broader implications of economic policies on national sovereignty.
The episode opens with Stephen K. Bannon addressing the targeted oppression of Christians in the United States. He emphasizes the deceptive narratives propagated by mainstream media, which, according to him, exacerbate the persecution faced by Christian communities.
Stephen K. Bannon (00:11):
"Christians not got a free shot on."
He criticizes MAGA Media's role in spreading misinformation, lamenting the lack of conscience among media entities.
Stephen K. Bannon (00:21):
"It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media."
Dave Brat (00:43) briefly interjects, reinforcing the gravity of the "War Room" in strategizing responses to these challenges.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the U.S. debt ceiling crisis and the strategies to navigate it without defaulting on securities. Stephen K. Bannon outlines the necessity of reconciling financial obligations while addressing illegal immigration.
Stephen K. Bannon (01:00):
"We're in extraordinary efforts on the debt ceiling right now. And there's cash around. You're not going to default on securities, but there's no additional cash out there."
He highlights Secretary Rubio's efforts in cutting deals with Central American nations to curb illegal immigration, underscoring the interplay between fiscal policy and national security.
Brad (02:24) adds a critical perspective on revenue generation, advocating for a strategic approach to external revenue streams, especially concerning China.
Brad (03:19):
"Not many holes to punch. I mean, the only hole is the amount of revenues we're going to get out of the External Revenue Service."
The conversation shifts to the critique of the administrative state, particularly targeting agencies like USAID. Stephen K. Bannon asserts that dismantling such institutions is essential for restoring American liberty and reducing governmental overreach.
Stephen K. Bannon (22:07):
"The problem is in aid, in the deconstruction of the administrative state."
Brad (03:56) draws parallels between historical figures like Moses and John the Baptist to illustrate the current need for radical change and grassroots mobilization.
Pastor John Amanchukwa joins the discussion to elaborate on the newly established task force aiming to eliminate anti-Christian bias within the government. He underscores the importance of repealing the Johnson Amendment to free pastors from governmental restrictions.
Pastor John Amanchukwa (06:28):
"This is the real deal. ... we need to rectify what Lyndon B. Johnson did with the Johnson Amendment."
He passionately advocates for reinstating school-sponsored prayer and the Ten Commandments in educational institutions, linking these measures to the foundation of American civilization.
Stephen K. Bannon (09:00) probes Pastor John on the objectives of the task force and the faith office, seeking clarity on the separation of church and state.
The episode delves into national security concerns, particularly focusing on the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as the primary existential threat to the United States. Stephen K. Bannon connects the national debt to China's strategic economic positioning, emphasizing the need for aggressive policies to curb CCP influence.
Stephen K. Bannon (28:07):
"The number one existential threat to the United States is the Chinese Communist Party and inextricably linked our debt."
A detailed play-by-play of President Trump’s meeting with Japan’s Prime Minister Sheba is provided, highlighting the discussions on trade, defense budgets, and strategic alliances in the Pacific.
Stephen K. Bannon (45:06):
"Prime Minister Shibe arriving for his meeting with the President of the United States. ... there were contentious issues of the tariffs and trade."
He explains the historical relationship between Trump and former Prime Minister Abe, indicating the continuation of robust diplomatic ties aimed at enhancing Japan’s defense capabilities and addressing trade imbalances.
The strategy to overwhelm traditional media with multiple initiatives is discussed, citing Steve Bannon’s earlier insights and their effectiveness in outmaneuvering opposition narratives.
Stephen K. Bannon (16:15):
"The opposition party is the media. ... We hit them with three things, they'll bite on one and we'll get all of our stuff done."
Mike Lindell (17:07) supports this approach, underscoring the importance of continuous momentum in legislative and executive actions to outpace media coverage.
The necessity of a grassroots movement to influence House and Senate members is emphasized. Brad advocates for direct engagement with legislators to instill fear of consequence, drawing inspiration from biblical Proverbs.
Brad (03:42):
"Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. ... we have to put the fear of God in them."
He argues that achieving significant budget cuts and policy reversals requires a unified and proactive citizen base.
In the concluding segments, Stephen K. Bannon reflects on the day’s events, including anticipated press conferences and bilateral meetings. The episode underscores the urgency of implementing the discussed strategies to safeguard American values and economic stability.
Stephen K. Bannon (54:02):
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The episode wraps up by reiterating the critical need for strategic dismantling of overreaching governmental bodies, bolstering Christian freedoms, and reinforcing economic policies to counteract external threats.
Persecution of Christians: Concerns over media bias and governmental policies targeting Christian communities.
Economic Strategy: Managing the debt ceiling crisis through strategic financial reconciliations and external revenue streams, particularly addressing dependencies on China.
Administrative Overreach: Advocating for the deconstruction of agencies like USAID to restore limited government and enhance national liberty.
Faith and Policy: Establishing task forces to combat anti-Christian bias and reinstating religious elements in public institutions.
National Security: Identifying the CCP as the foremost threat and strategizing to mitigate its economic and political influence.
International Diplomacy: Strengthening alliances with key nations like Japan to ensure mutual security and fair trade practices.
Grassroots Empowerment: Mobilizing the citizenry to influence legislative changes and support executive policies.
This episode serves as a clarion call to action for listeners to engage in national discourse, support policy changes, and uphold the foundational values that define American exceptionalism.