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Episode 4254: DOGE To Take Over Spending At The Pentagon
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Stephen K. Bannon
Discretionary spending. You're going to have a firestorm. You had a firestorm last week and kind of quasi. Blinked a little bit, let's be honest. Blinked a tad.
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Dave Brat
Tad.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Pull back the memo, but not the content of the memo. The guys in Doral, all the Republican congressmen are freaking out because the constituents are calling. That's just to find out where the money is in the system. Now we have to have cuts. You cannot cut a penny from federal spending unless you start in the Defense Department. Let me say this again. Let's have an adult conversation. Unless you start in the Defense Department, you cannot have any cuts. The Doge team, you're up the national, you know, oceanographic, wherever the hell you are. It's all good. Do it. But until you cross the Potomac, it's not real. Until you cross the Potomac. This is like McClellan's army, right? Until you cross the Potomac and go over into Northern Virginia to the Pentagon and put a team and hey, we'll get them. We'll get them as much. You know, they don't need classifications. And high industry in D.C. is the most corrupt. The most corrupt. And so we're just going to sit there? You tell me we're just going to sit here. We're just going to sit here and not. Not avoid that.
- [01:38]
Jane Zirkel
Quickly, to follow up on what Peter was asking, have you directed Elon Musk to review Pentagon spending, given it's the biggest discretionary.
- [01:45]
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, Pentagon, education, just about everything. We're going to go through everything just as it was so bad with what we just went through, with this horrible situation we just went through, And I guess 97% of the people have been dismissed. It was very, very unfortunate. You're not going to find anything like that, but you're going to find a lot. And I've instructed him to go check out education, to check out the Pentagon, which is the military. And, you know, sadly, you'll find some things that are pretty bad.
- [02:14]
Bill Federer
But I don't think proportionately you're going.
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Stephen K. Bannon
To see anything like we just saw. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Jack Posobiec
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media.
- [02:47]
Dave Brat
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
- [02:52]
Stephen K. Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
- [03:02]
Jack Posobiec
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Dave Brat
Dave Brat, welcome to the War Room. Sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon, proud to say sitting in. We got Steve by phone, we got Jack Posobec. You just heard Stephen K. Bannon in the Cold open saying he got across the Potomac pretty timely yesterday. He's been saying that for a week. And now the president says let's take a look at the DOD and Department of Education. Steve, you with us?
- [03:39]
Pete Hegseth
Dave, and thank you for having me. And I'll be back at 6:00. Had to be out here for a while at some meetings, but a big day today as we've been recommending nonstop for a week on the show and in different interviews I've done for the Wall Street Journal and for New York Times and Piers Morgan, you know, the GB News in England all over is to say, you know, hey, if we're serious about this, if we're serious about cutting the budget, we have a 14th of March deadline, midnight of the 14th of March. And you're not going to, you know, all this stuff we're doing or rewiring the system and checking out where wastewater bees is fantastic, that's fine. But you got to get south of the Potomac. You got to go to Arlington, you have to go to the Pentagon. That's where you're going to find opportunities actually cut, you know, cut federal spending. We're all hawks and you know, we're all pro defense. But to cut spending and once you do that, that picks the lock of being able to cut discretionary spending and also cut some portions of Medicaid. You're not going to be able to touch Social Security and Medicare. But if we're serious about this. And finally, I think people are waking up a bunch of articles this afternoon after our show this morning talking about how the Democrats are digging in on the 14th of March and they're going to try to force Trump to shut down the government. So the reconciliation bills are all nice, that's fine. They're working deals. And, you know, Senate's doing one thing, House doing another. Johnson's wandering around. We have to get serious. And to get serious, President Trump instructed Elon Musk to do what Elon Musk didn't want to do. Elon Musk has been avoiding this. He's been avoiding it because he's a massive government contractor. He's a defense contractor. And we've got to get to the Defense Department. That's kind of the Mack daddy of corruption and incompetence in our system. And this is one of the reasons Pete Hexis over there. Pete's over there to instill the warrior ethos and the fighting spirit in there. And we have to have their back. And now we have to have the Elon's back when he goes over there. But he must go over there with his troops. No need to do Social Security and anything else. Just get over south of the Potomac, cross the Potomac river, go to the Pentagon. They should start tomorrow morning on a Saturday and just work all the way through because we have a March 14 deadline that we're either going to have to find some cuts here or just kick the can down the road on a CR that already has a $2 trillion deficit baked in it. Now, you know, Posobec knows this. He and I've talked a about it. Why you got to go to the Pentagon and have Pete Hexer's back, but Elon's got to get over there and I'm so glad the president instructed him to get on with it.
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Dave Brat
Yeah, Jack, you want to take it from there? When I was in Congress as a Gordian, not, you know, the defense almost as a jobs program, all great men and women, but a lot of inefficiencies, a lot of depots sitting around that could be shut down, but they're tied to every congressman's job numbers and performance and the heat they'll take. What are you anticipating? Jack, you saw with USAID just started a spiral and then a hurricane came out of it. Do you think you're going to see the same logic unfold with dod? Jack Bosobic.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, well, Dave, as I've said here on the war Room many times, you want to start with issues over at the Department of Defense. Why don't you take a look at some of those generals right out there in the e ring of the Pentagon. These woke generals that were brought up and all their woke staffs that have come along with them. You want to offer people some early retirement. I think it'd be more, more than than appropriate to start going around. You want to get rid of the wokeness. It's the same deal with the Pentagon. It's the same deal with the FBI. It's the same deal across the military. It is personnel. You have to focus on the personnel. So the buyouts, I would certainly offer that There. But then you're talking about the administrative staff, you're talking about your, your S1. You could even talk about your S3. These operations. You've got so many layers baked in of redundancies and duplication that are going on over there. You've got so many redundanc. He's, by the way, not only in terms of the personnel, you just look at the spending, you look at the outlays, you look at the boondoggles that go on, all these conferences all over the world, and it's held by this staffer in this office and that office and the amount of money that they pay. And I'm just going to say it. People are getting very upset when I say this. The amount of money that they spend on some of these programs, they can't even get off the ground. Steve, you and I have talked many times about the littoral combat craft, the littoral combat ship, the LCS program, which has been a complete failure in the United States Navy. You talk, talk about the failures that we've seen with the railgun technology, and we're talking about millions and billions of dollars, not to mention all the overruns on the F35. And again and again. Look, you get the rot out, you get the d. You get the crap out of there. Because, and keep in mind, this DI stuff isn't just when it comes to hiring. It also comes down to the contractors. They say, oh, you want someone to build one of these programs, build an aircraft carrier, build an lcs, build a rail gun, all this, well, you got to have the, a certain quota of this racial type and this need just so many Eskimos and this many people with disabilities, Native American, all the rest and all the, and everything, as opposed to saying, who can do it the best for the most efficient quality at the lowest price. It's as simple as that. We want to make the Pentagon great again and make the US Military great again. And absolutely, that means going down and looking all at these preferential treatments that go through the system one day.
- [09:04]
Pete Hegseth
Also, President Trump, strategically, President Trump's geostrategically going to a hemispheric defense, a Monroe Doctrine 5.0. We need to make sure that the fourth structure is tied to the hemispheric defense from the Arctic in Greenland all the way down to the Panama Canal. This is a naval strategy. You've got the three, the three island chains in the Pacific that make us a Pacific power. You have to align our force structure which been in CENTCOM, as you know, Dave for really, for 30 years, since the, since the Gulf War. So it's time to do a total rethink. There could be really significant cuts over there and still actually add to our national defense. Put economic warfare in there against the Chinese Communist Party. Cut them off from capital, cut them off from technology. Let's see how tough they are. It's great that President Trump ordered Elon.
- [09:53]
Jack Posobiec
To go over there.
- [09:54]
Pete Hegseth
It's time now to make sure he gets over there quickly and let's get the job done.
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Dave Brat
Yes, Steve, you've been covering this. The war room audience, I think, is expecting some fireworks in the days to come here with DoD, but with the USAID, you know, the press, their heads exploded because they're all tied to that agency. And then the spillover and ripple effects were huge. What, what do you expect? Any, any of those ripple effects coming out of dod? Anything you anticipate.
- [10:29]
Pete Hegseth
Listen, it's not going to be as egregious post jump in here. I mean, you and you get a special announcement to make here. Look, Hex is over there. We love Hegses. I'm sure they're going to find our kind of stuff. But USAID people should understand that was a 40 to 50 billion dollars a year slush fund for the communists and Marxists in our system. The Samantha Powers of the world. The worst people. Victoria Newland. Samantha Powers. The worst people in this government. A slush fund, a CIA cutout to, you know, have NGOs finance the invasion of our country and have these, all these woke groups try to suppress MAGA voices. So it's the worst of the worst. I doubt we'll ever find anything as bad as that near the Pentagon, although you're going to be shocked. I'm sure it's in the incompetence and some of the duplication. But over there, I think it's getting forced structure to match strategy and a strategy. Jack Bouquet. That wins wars. No more fighting. 20 years to a tie, Jack.
- [11:23]
Jack Posobiec
Look, you need to have, you need to have the force lay down where the commander's intent is extremely delineated from step one. No more of this managing that. We're going to manage the cartel problem. Problem. We're going to manage the Taliban, we're going to manage Al Qaeda, we're going to manage isis. No, it's the same way President Trump, by the way, took out ISIS in the first instance. Not this ISIS 2.0 that's blowing up. By the way, which Tulsi Gabbard, the Seneca Colonel Gabbard, expertly I would say, gave a masterclass on how this was the unintended consequences of bad decisions in the Middle east because, okay, you got rid of Assad. You know this. I've heard this story before. We got rid of Saddam Hussein and look what happened with Iraq and the sectarian violence. Now the same thing is happening in Syria where the, okay, the brutal dictator is gone, the butcher's gone. Got it. But guess what? Who's going to backfill that? Oh, you got the Sunni head choppers, you've got Shia head choppers, you've got the whole gamut over there, Steve, as you would say, the dog's breakfast that's completely exploding with the collapse of the Syrian state. So the question is, what's in it for the United States? What's in our actual national interest? If we're going to go pick a fight, let's pick a fight to win. And then we come home. It's as simple as that. And the fight that I hear, that is going to be picked, according to the reporting of Todd Benzeman yesterday here on the program, as well as Ben Berkwam down there on the border, is that they are taking a serious look at going kinetic on the cartels. And guess what? The cartels have a direct impact on U.S. citizens and U.S. territory in ways that these groups in far off places like Niger and Boko Haram, guess what? I understand that these are bad guys, but we need to focus on home first. Fortress America.
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Dave Brat
Yeah. Steve and Jack, whoever wants to weigh in? Thayer. We always have on the war room. 30 year Ms. On intelligence with China by our elitist experts. 30 years of a, of a fatal Ms. Comments on that in relation to Dodge, Steve?
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Pete Hegseth
Well, obviously it's been a 30 year miss. You got to ask the question, was it a miss of incompetence or malfeasance? I mean, Jack, you would know. We lost all the, all the, all the agents we had in China. So I just made a disgrace elite merger. Yes.
- [13:45]
Dave Brat
Yeah. And so the economics, the trade offs as you go through to China, to the Pacific, that imposes hard costs on the folks who are going to lose resources. Where are we going to hear that, Jack? Where are we going to hear the screaming and the pain coming from?
- [14:06]
Jack Posobiec
You're going to, you're going to hear it from everywhere. You're going to hear it from all sources. They're going to say it's training rundowns, you're going to hear that it's supply rundowns. But at the end of the day, it's the run ups and costs and contracts that are way above board. Look, you need a negotiator in there. And I think President Trump threw secret Secretary had Hegseth is the man to do it.
- [14:23]
Dave Brat
Yep. Outstanding. Back with Stephen K. Bannon and Jack Bock. And then we got Bill, Bill Federer. Coming up on the show, we're going to go through the the economic 10 year statistics that just came out yesterday. The debt bomb. 2 trillion for the next 10 years. 2 trillion a year for 10 years. So another 20 trillion in debt on top of the current debt. Steve Bannon's been saying that is the issue that we have to contend with. Calling on the House and Senate to respond. Stay tuned to no.
- [14:59]
Stephen K. Bannon
We've seen all the headlines. Cyber attacks on our power grids, drones in the sky, violent attacks on everyday Americans. The ugly truth is no leader, no system can protect you from everything. And the last thing I want is to be standing in line depending on help that may never come. And when crisis hits, food is always the first casualty. Everyone needs it and panic buying makes things worse. You remember this from the pandemic. That's why I've made sure my family's prepared with my Patriot Supply in their four week emergency food kit. It gives you the nutrition you need to stay strong in a crisis. With 2000 calories per day and 100% of your daily value of 12 essential vitamins and minerals, this kit helps keep you going when every meal matters. Right now they're offering 50 bucks off their four week food kit. Go to my patronsupply.com now to grab yours. Don't put this off. Now is the time. Prepare. That's my patronsupply.com to get your four week food kit today. Make sure you're prepared. The crisis is here.
- [16:07]
Jack Posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K.
- [16:16]
Dave Brat
Dave Brat sitting in with great Stephen K. Bannon. Jack Posobic on deck. And we have Jane Zirkel waiting in West Palm beach on the Runway. Air Force One is making its way in. Jane, what news you got to report to us?
- [16:33]
Jane Zirkel
President Trump is returning home to the winter White House, Mar A Lago, because the Republican Senate committee is holding their annual winter meeting over at the breakers just a few miles away from here. And tonight he is hosting a dinner at Mar A Lago for a select number of GOP senators to essentially make their pitch for their two pathway reconciliation bill. This is the war room proposal, the two part reconciliation versus the one big jumbo reconciliation that Mike Johnson is introducing. Now, Lindsey Graham, who heads the budget Committee as well as Senate Majority Leader John Thune have really stood firm on know. John Thune released a statement earlier today on X when they beat the House to the punch here in releasing their proposal saying that the American people delivered a mandate for President Trump to fulfill the MAGA agenda through border security, through fixing our economy, through repairing our military and making America Energy independent once again. And that's what the Senate's goals here are. And it's going to really expose in the broader context. You know, we saw this week with the corruption through usaid, how our Republican representatives have continually voted for this radical and weaponized spending and it's going to show who sides with the uniparty and who sides with the American people and President Trump's MAGA agenda.
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Dave Brat
Yeah, that's very well said. And the Senate, you know, it's kind of a shocker. The Senate hasn't done any of the 12 approach bills ever since I was in Congress. I can't remember them. And so this change of heart, I mean you've seen it on paper. Are you buying it that the proposed, is there any, any tricks up the sleeve there on the Senate side or is this just a total turnaround due to the election?
- [18:20]
Jane Zirkel
Well, listen, what the war room wants, and it's been our position for a long time, is that we need massive spending cuts and we need them now. We can no longer kick this burden down the line. We have to address this problem.
- [18:33]
Dave Brat
Good. I think you might have frozen. Jane, let me come back to you. What, what, what, what's Thune said about the nature of the spending cuts that they're going to put on the table? I think we might have lost, Jane. Hey, Jack. Jack Posobic is with us. Jack, I think you were getting ready to report, you told me over the break, the NATO summit is coming up with defense ministers and then after that, the, the Munich Security Conference is coming up. What all is entailed in those meetings and why they matter to the war room.
- [19:08]
Jack Posobiec
That's right, Dave. Well, so as you know, the war room, of course has always had a large geopolitical focus focused on the geopolitical geo economic going on around the entire world. And so as the first part, the first phase of President Trump's move to make the United States a hemispheric power and return to the Monroe Doctrine. That also means winding down and putting to bed these forever wars and these commitments that the United States is currently embroiled in. Probably the largest and most well known of these, the current Ukraine war, which is the United States proxy war against Russia right now. So Pete Secretary Pete Hegseth and Vice President Vance are making a two pronged trip to Europe next week to deliver this message from the President of the United States to the European leaders. President Trump himself notably will not be on the trip. Also his special envoy General Keith Kellog is going to be attending as well. So you got Secretary Hegseth will be headed over to Brussels, going into Belgium directly to the NATO foreign ministers. So all the ministers of NATO they're meeting there. Hegseth is going to them to deliver the message of where the United States will draw the lines. He's also going to be doing some meetings with troop visits around next week around the horn in Europe. Then you got J.D. vance and General Kellogg will be attending the Munich Security conference later next week. And so what people need to understand is the Munich Security Conference this is where the heads of state typically go to discuss how the world will be run on a military basis. And this is really where the NATO conflagration and NATO decisions their run up on the borders of Russia and all of this got started go back to 2007. And who addressed the Munich security conference was none other than Vladimir Putin himself came to Munich in 2007. He was invited by the the German chairman at the time and said I will work with NATO but do not run NATO up against the borders of Russia. George W. Bush disagreed and started doing exactly that in country after country as NATO moved further and further east. This all this all led to the final Munich security Conference pre war where who was sent from the United States. That's right another vice president, Vice President Kamala Harris. And while Russia had all those troops on the border with Ukraine, Kamala Harris flew over there to Munich and stood with the Ukrainians and said we will put will didn't say May, didn't say possibly didn't say looking at she said we will accept Ukraine into NATO. And of course everyone remembers it was only a few days later when the Russians invaded. So that was coming out coming in the hills. We're almost about to hit the three year anniversary of the start of the Ukraine war. So this will be where there's those key decisions in the negotiations of the peace process will continue. Now I understand that General Kellogg will be making a further trip past Munich all the way in. He's going to Kiev for a sit down with Zelensky himself. It wouldn't surprise me by the way if Zelensky we haven't seen the full guest list yet but it Wouldn't surprise me if President Zelensky also makes an appearance at, at the NATO summit or the Munich Security Conference or possibly both. But he's of course, as we know, been running around, he's on Piers Morgan and he's going on all these interviews lately and really just searching for any deal that he possibly can because I think he realizes that this thing is being wound to an end just the same way that President Trump told us that it would be doing so.
- [22:42]
Dave Brat
Yeah, and so the, the globalists are not going to sit content. I gave a talk the other day over at the Atlantic Council. One of the former ambassadors gave some remarks that were accommodative to Trump, kind of surprisingly, but they were accommodative only because they want the war to go on. And so there's a discussion of the rare earth metals and a trade of rare earth metals for ongoing weapons to keep the war going against Russia versus the MAGA war room preference. Get out of there and don't. Trump does not want to be tied to this war in any shape or form. Which way are you seeing the wind blowing on that one, Jack?
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Jack Posobiec
Well, President Trump made it very clear on his, on the campaign trail that his commitment would be to ending the Ukraine war and leading to a ceasefire. And so it seems as though the Ukrainian side leaked yesterday a set of potential conditional proposals for a ceasefire deal between the Ukrainians and the Russians. This included a phased conversation, a series of phone calls, and then meetings between Putin and Zelensky directly. We know from the Russian side. There's Russian media reporting about a potential sit down either in Saudi Arabia or possibly Dubai. But having the Gulf really broker this, and which of course totally underpins the fact that energy and oil and natural gas play such a huge role into what's really driving this war behind the scenes. And it's all about the energy supplies to Europe. This is, of course, where Nord Stream 2 comes in and American LNG exports to Europe. So when we're looking at all of that, I think it's going to be more along the lines of a ceasefire. But at the same time, I would, I would not be surprised. For what, what are some of the things that Zelensky's been asking for? Look, he's asking for nuclear weapons. He's not going to get nuclear weapons. But that, that perhaps could be a negotiating position for him to say, well, I want some weapons that will be able to defend Ukraine or at least some kind of security guarantee. What else is he asking for? He's also been asking for NATO troops particularly to be led by the British to establish a sort of demilitarized zone in between some of these areas of the fighting, some areas where the Russians might pull back from, where the Ukrainians might pull back from, particularly in these eastern Russian speaking provinces, Donetsk, Lugansk, Crimea, Zaporizhzhia, these areas that in the case of Crimea and the others actually voted to join the Russian Federation. So you're going to see this play out back and forth. And it wouldn't surprise me, we've of course heard President Trump talk about these rare earth minerals as well as the lithium, the iron, the zinc, that they're on the territory of Ukraine. It wouldn't surprise me if that was included in part of the deal. Of course, this is the same president who used to tell us that, you know, why are we, why are we in Iraq if we aren't taking any of the oil? What's the point of these wars if we're not going to provide any resources for the United States ourselves? So it wouldn't surprise me if that's part of the deal. But I think that would definitely be tied to a cease fire because this, of course, is what President Trump ran on.
- [25:51]
Dave Brat
Yep. Jack Posobic, we're going to go back to Jane, but Jack Bosobuk, always up to date around the world. Follow him. Jack, we're going to come back to you after the break, but Jane, we want to get back to you before Air Force One one comes rolling down, rolling down the field right, right in front of you. What else do you have to report? You're out in the field a lot and this USAID was just a bomb that blew up. What are you hearing from the war room posse as you go around the country in a couple minutes?
- [26:24]
Jane Zirkel
You know, it's promises made, promises kept. You look at the plethora of executive orders that President Trump has delivered on in the past past week. He has really touched on all different aspects of the woken weaponized, particularly with the men and women's sports. And you can see here with how he's issuing these orders. And we always say that culture is just downstream of politics. But I would argue and say culture and politics really go hand in hand. Like in this instance, President Trump kicked men out of women's sports. And then the NCAA almost immediately after announced that they would be doing the same. And you see under how and under the Biden administration how there was this instant cultural flip because people felt so pressured to subscribe to this radical agenda that he was really Initiating from the Oval Office.
- [27:11]
Dave Brat
Very good. And on the, on the USAID corruption, I mean, it's just stunning. The press won't cover the news because they're indicted in the news. Is that energizing the base? Is the base very aware of, of some of the details in that corruption? When you, not just maga, but if you go around just to the average person on the street, do they know what's going on?
- [27:34]
Jane Zirkel
I think they know it's just the tip of the iceberg. They feel the burden of the overreach of government on every aspect of their lives and they know that there has to be an absolute overhaul of the current system that's going on in the country right now.
- [27:49]
Dave Brat
Yeah. Good for you. Jane Zirkel, always on the beat, staying with the pulse of the American people. We appreciate. I see her every city she's in. Stay tuned to the war room in times of uncertainty. But make sure you check out Birch Gold. Our good.
- [28:06]
Stephen K. Bannon
We've seen all the headlines. Cyber attacks on our power grids, drones in the sky, violent attacks on everyday Americans. The ugly truth is no leader, no system can protect you from everything. And the last thing I want is to be standing in line. Depending on help that may never come. And when crisis hits, food is always the first casualty. Everyone needs it. And panic buying makes things worse. You remember this from the pandemic? That's why I've made sure my family's prepared with my Patriot supply and their four week emergency food kids kit. It gives you the nutrition you need to stay strong in a crisis. With 2000 calories per day and 100% of your daily value of 12 essential vitamins and minerals, this kit helps keep you going when every meal matters. Right now they're offering 50 bucks off their four week food kit. Go to my patronsupply.com now to grab yours. Don't put this off. Now is the time prepared. That's my patronsupply.com to get your four week food kit today. Make sure you're prepared. The crisis is here.
- [29:16]
Jack Posobiec
Stephen K. Band.
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Dave Brat
Back in the war with the great Stephen K. Bannon. Jack Posobic. I just want to review a little bit of the longer term history here. RFK Jr has a a great 10 minute clip summarizing the Ukraine setup. And then Mearsheimer is outstanding. If you don't know John Mearsheimer, you know, go YouTube him. He's got the same presentation. He's been right forever. Matching the logic of Jack Posobec and Stephen K. Bannon, et cetera. But, Jack, let's just go back to Gorbachev. The Wall comes down about, you know, 14 countries are freed from a totalitarian rule, and Gorbachev says to James Baker iii, hey, all this is going to go in a win win fashion, but I don't want you moving 1 inch to the east toward Russia. James Baker III says, yes, it's not captured in writing or any treaty. And now, you know, in 14, we've got the coup d'etat in Ukraine. And so just explain the basic historic setup. Who pushed after the fall of the Iron Curtain, who pushed for all these countries to get back into NATO? And then ultimately the real red line was Ukraine, right? And that was Putin. And then if you say anything along these lines, you're a Putin apologist and you like communism, even if you're a free market Presbyterian. So, Jack, that's a huge question, but just give us a quick tutorial so you understand the flow of that period of history.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, look for folks to understand this. And you know, I say this as a guy who's got familial roots in Poland, so was behind that Iron Curtain for the entire duration and prior to that was split between Stalin and Hitler. And it goes back to the various partitions of Poland. So trust me, they know what it's like to be occupied by foreign powers and they know what it's like to have a military overrunning your position. From the Russian perspective, they view external threat from invasion as their number one vulnerability because of the massive land. Land configuration of Europe, of Europe. It really, it's. You look at Russia, it's, it's terrain, it's the step. It is fields, it's farms, it's Ukraine, of course, itself being the breadbasket. So the Mongols, the Golden Horde ran over Russia. You want to go way back, we'll go to the 1200s. Brad, you know, you had the Mongol, you had the Golden Horde, you had the Ottomans were coming up from the south, up through Turkey, took Crimea up until about the 1400s, even to the 1700s. Then you had, of course, Napoleon in the 1800s waging war so far that he even eventually takes Moscow itself. The Russians burned down Moscow to deny him the use of it. Then they wait out, wait him out during the Russian winter. People know how that story went. And then you get Adolf Hitler himself in Operation Barbarossa from 1941 and on, where tens of millions of Russians were killed in this. And so they've become a people that are very, very, you could say paranoid, but. Or you could say hypersensitive. Hypersensitive to military alliances along their borders. And it doesn't matter how many times an American or a NATO member sits there and says it's defensive, it's defensive. And Piers Morgan can say it as many times as he wants till his face is blue. But that doesn't mean they're going to believe you. And what do you see? You see the same Clinton cronies in that Obama administration, which she was Secretary of State. That's when this was put into motion. That's when Victoria Nuland was sent over there. And you've got the phone calls with her, with her where she's the EU F the EU and that leaked phone call that comes out where she's explaining with, by the way, George Pyatt and some of the people who come up later in the first Trump impeachment, by the way, with the call, the perfect call with Zelensky, telling them who their members are going to be, telling them who the next government of Ukraine is going to be. And they say, come hell or high water, Ukraine will be in NATO. Because you've got many people, Victoria Nuland and others that are hell bent on regime change in Russia. That has been their white whale for the longest time. That's who they're focused on. It's, they were drunk on the, to their view, the success of the Arab Spring. And look what they did in, in, in Egypt there. They knocked off Hosni Mubarak and put up the Muslim Brotherhood in Place in 2011. And they told us that it was, you know, part of freedom is the blessings of freedom. They were going to do the same thing around the world and throw everything into chaos. But the difference is Russia is not some, you know, podunk third world nation that you can push around like that. They're not Iraq and Afghanistan. This is a nuclear power with a serious military with serious technological capabilities. And it finally got to the point where they said, Ukraine is our red line. Not going to let you take Ukraine. We're not going to push you in here. We want Ukraine out of NATO and to wit, this, this draft leaked document from the negotiations. Supposedly it was presented by Kellogg. It's, it's hard to tell whether or not this is the current draft, the negotiations, but one of the red lines that was included in this was for the cease fire, that Ukraine would not become part of NATO.
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Dave Brat
Right, right. Brilliant as always, Jack Posobic. Thanks for being with us, brother. How do people look you up and get all this up to date information that only you in the war room.
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Jack Posobiec
Provide God bless Dave. So you can follow me at Jack Posobic. And we'll be up there at Twitter at Human Events. I got a. I have a little bit of announcement on Monday regarding the show. I'm not actually going to be hosting Human Events. We're going to have a round robin. Brian Glenn, my brother Kevin Posobic and the great Michelle Bacchus are going to be filling away in for me. I am going to be on assignment next week and I'll be making an announcement at the appropriate time.
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Dave Brat
Wow. Very nice. All right, everybody, stay tuned. Follow the great Jack Posobic. Thanks for being on. Jack. Super job.
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Jack Posobiec
God bless Dave.
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Dave Brat
Hey, thank you, brother. All right, we've got Bill Federer in the House after the National Prayer Day, and President Trump just offered up some stunning remarks just over and over and over. I don't have time to go over, but let me just read a few. And they kind of fit into Bill Federer's life work. From the earliest days of our republic, says Trump in quotes. Faith in God has always been the ultimate source of the strength that beats in the heart of our nation. We have to bring religion back, quote, we have to bring it back much stronger. You can just hear Trump talking there. That's one of the biggest problems we've had over the last fairly long period of time. Right. I'm thinking he means the post World War II era kind of there, that last 50 years. We have to bring it back. Another quote, Deep in the soul of every patriot is the knowledge that God has a special plan and a glorious mission for America. And that plan is gonna happen. Happen. It's gonna happen. And I could go on and on. He talks about John Winthrop, the city on a hill, his getting shot. Something's changed in me. I can feel a change. I'm even stronger. I used to believe in God, but now something's really changed. And so just stunning remarks. And so I wanted to bring in Bill Federer. When you have a leader that's making those kind of remarks, and then you see, you know, I don't like when religious people only talk about the social policies and all that, that. But just, just there, there's a gestalt shift in this country that just goes.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It.
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Dave Brat
It's like the fear is being removed. And God is always the God of liberation from the Exodus all the way up through Jesus. And so I just wanted you to put some of this in context. When, when you hear comments like that from the President, United States, what hope does that give you?
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Bill Federer
Yeah, it's great hope. You know, Eisenhower said to the distinguished, he said that belief in the Supreme Being is the basic expression of Americanism. So here you have Eisenhower, supreme allied Commander, World War II. Right. And he said belief in a Supreme Being is the first, the most basic expression of Americanism. Another quote from Eisenhower is he said, in some lands, the state claims to be the author of human rights. If the state gives rights, it can and inevitably will take away those rights. Our founders had to refer to the Creator in order to make their revolutionary experiment make sense. We had to claim we had rights from a source higher than the government. And the government's purpose is to guarantee to us our Creator given rights. If there is no Creator, the rights come from the government. And what the government giveth, the government can taketh away it. You know, I put together a book, prayers and Presidents, where I went through every past president up through George W. I couldn't, didn't have time to go through Obamas anyway, I'll need to redo it now that that Trump's in. But every one of them mentioned God. You had days of fasting during the Continental Congress. Washington had days of prayer. James Madison had a day of fasting and prayer during the War of 1812. John Adams had a day of fasting and prayer during a threatened war with France. Zachary Taylor during the cholera epidemic, 150,000Americans died. He had a day of fasting and prayer. Lincoln had two of during the Civil War. You had Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, passing out New Testaments to all the soldiers. He writes the forward. The Bible is the word of life. And on the flip side page you have John J. Pershing, the commander writes on the inside of this Bible, Franklin Roosevelt gives out Gideon's New Testaments by the millions to the soldiers. He says in his D Day address, almighty God, our sons, our proud of our nation on this day go forth in an award to preserve our republic, our religion and our civilization. What's the religion? Well, he's Episcopalian and he's passing out New Testament. Twenty years ago I was going through the CIA.gov website. They have a world factbook. They list every country in the world and every imaginable statistic. You know, Pakistan is 90% Muslim, Japan's is 80% Buddhist. And you look at the United states, it said 90% Christian, right? About, you know, 2/3 Protestant, a third Catholic. But here's our own government website. And so then Obama gets in Mikey Weinstein and he has his religious freedom group. And what does he do? Go through with A fine tooth comb and remove anything that had to do with Christianity. We're talking the Bible that was on the missing man table, the Gideon Bible, right. We're talking about soldiers with a scripture on their desk. We're talking about getting rid of the name crusader. All these different things that. I think that the anti Christian bias is real. I think Trump's addressing it. And I think the task force that puts in charge should get Mikey Weinstein's list and undo it. Because he was good for you. That's anti Christian.
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Dave Brat
That's why I wanted to. Yes, that's where I wanted to go. You know, in the past, everyone was. All the presidents were Christians, all the university Presidents were Christian, etc. Today, there's a fascinating phenomenon. You got Jordan Peterson almost from a biological standpoint, right? Biology, psychology, mythology, you know, Jung, all this kind of stuff, archetypes. But he, he says, and I totally agree with him, I went to seminary way back, but there is only one narrative, right? There is only one reality. And he says, when I plumb the depths of these sciences or the mythology or the literatures, I just find myself coming to Moses and Jesus because it's real and we've lost that.
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Bill Federer
Right?
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Dave Brat
All the founders of this country, obviously, that was their worldview. This is real. And so say a few words to the modern American, you know, the young kid. Well, the. That's just mythology. Or that my parents made me do this. But as they get older, they're gonna see their life experience resonate with that narrative and that reality in new ways. And about a minute and a half. And I'll come back to you after the break, right.
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Bill Federer
The most common form of government in world history is kings, basically gangs. A king is a glorified gang leader from Nimrod, Pharaoh, Caesar, Kaiser, Sultan's arts, all top down, ruled through fear. The first nation that we have record of that that didn't have a king was ancient Israel around 1400 BC. They come out of Egypt and no king. It worked because everyone was taught the law and everybody's accountable to God to follow the law. It's called the Hebrew Republic. It was studied by the Puritans and the founders of America. And so we are carrying on this experiment. Why is the Bible so important? John F. Kennedy, in his inaugural address said, the rights of man come not from the generosity of the statement, from the hand of God. God, what belief system believes that? Right. Hinduism. There's 300 million different gods. Which one are you in the image of? And if you're untouchable in the lowest caste, you're not equal to a Brahmin in the highest caste. If you're Islamist, if you're a Muslim male, you're worth more than a female who's worth more than a kafir infidel. If you're in a communist atheistic country, your worth is dependent on if you're a member of the ccp, right. If you're, if not North Korea, right. Christians are, are persecuted only in the Judeo Christian community.
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Dave Brat
Come back to that bill because you're getting right at it. What is real? What do you really believe is real? And what, what religious and philosophical tradition explains that reality? Back after the break.
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Jack Posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Dave Brat
All right, there you see Air Force One coming on in. Jane, any commentary you want to give us for a minute? Jane Zirkel.
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Jane Zirkel
Tonight is a huge moment for the war room posse. The senators are making their pitch to President Trump to side with them on their pathway forward to their budget solution. And it's really going to be interesting. Who steps up to the table here and who sides with the MAGA agenda and wants to push forward President Trump's border security measures. There's a huge aspect to this about adding more ICE agents and adding funding for the border wall. And who wants to side with the uniparty, the uniparty that voted to fund USAID and other woke and radicalized spending measures that have Been bankrupting this country.
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Dave Brat
Yep. And as Steve showed on the show this morning, Thomas Massie had a little clip. If we do a cr, USAID will be funded after the outrage is too much. Take. Thank you, Jane. Back to Bill Federer with a few minutes to go. Bill, you were just surveying all the alternatives. And I taught philosophical ethics and there's all these fancy names of Kant and Aristotle, but they don't have any followers. And so the American, they're cynical of religion a little bit, they're skeptical and so make the sale. Why is Christianity real individual?
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Bill Federer
Every other belief system you're worth is dependent on what group you belong to, whether it's an Islamic male or Hinduism, which caste you belong to, what Communist party you belong to. In the Judeo Christian faith, you're worth something simply because you're made in the image of God. And this God is not a respecter of persons. And so therefore everyone's equal. It doesn't matter what caste you belong, doesn't matter if you can contribute to the state or not. Everyone's equal. And Harry S. Truman in his inaugural said, we believe all men are created equal because we're created in the image of God. And so this is the, in Islam, there is no Allah has no image. In Hinduism, there's 300 million different gods. So the very concept that you're made in the image of God is a Bible idea. And, and so you have worth as an individual. And so therefore the government's purpose is to guarantee to you your creator given rights. And the other ones, they're just top down. And that's the norm. It's kings who rule through fear. So.
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Dave Brat
Yeah, and it's a little interesting in the, in the past 50 years, we, I, you know, I use too many economic analogies, but we used to have free market markets based on the individual and the price system. Now we have oligarchs, centralized government power. President Trump is trying to make some inroads and decentralized, send some of the stuff back down to states and localities. But it's interesting that, that the decline of religion is going along with what you described there. The history of nations is the history of kings and tyrants and oligarchs. And why would we want to go back in that direction? And so, so give us some hope. Where's the energy to move back toward this realization that we're all individuals created in God? Where's that energy going to come from?
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Bill Federer
Well, you know, capitalism empowers the individual. Now, there's a difference between local capitalism and International capitalism, international globalists, they're happy to do deals with communists. Right. But on a local level. That's why when John F. Kennedy pushes through his tax cuts, it was tax cuts for those businesses located on American soil. Not just tax cuts for businesses in general, but it's the empowerment of the individual. So if you like having rights, the government cannot take away. Those rights need to come to you from a power higher than the government. And that's why the founders referred to a creator. If you like being equal, yes. Well, where did equality come from? It didn't come from these other different belief system where your worth is dependent on what group you belong to. The equality came from we're all made in the image of God and he's not a respecter of persons. We need to realize that our government structure came out of these beliefs originally from the New England colonies and how they had a covenant form of government that went back to the ancient Israel government before they got a king. Right. And so that was called the Hebrew Republic. So dei, critical race theory, trans agenda, those are all creative terms for anti Christian agenda. So when they say, oh, we need to be tolerant of, what they're saying is, we're tolerant of everybody except that. But at the time of the founding, 98% of the country was Protestant, 1% Catholic, and then a tenth of a percent Jewish. And then you have immigrants come in from Ireland and the Catholic percent goes to 20%. Then immigrants come in from Bavaria and the Jewish percent goes to 1 to 2 to 3%. And as the centuries go on, the Christian concept of tolerance goes out to tolerate everybody else. So tolerance itself is a Judeo Christian idea.
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Dave Brat
And I was hoping you were going to circle right into that and you did. Thanks for being with us, Bill. Federer, go look up his books. He's a life's work. But if you want to be, if you want your dignity to come from God and you believe in the dignity of every other individual and you don't want to be grouped the way the tyrants want to group you. Right. That, that is the Judeo Christian west in a nutshell. Thank you, Bill. We go to Mike Lindell. Brother Mike, sell us some pillows. And any commentary you want on the day of prayer with President Trump and some stunning comments he laid out.
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It is.
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Dave Brat
Well, you're one of them, Mike. You know, the War Room stood by you. You stood by us. You supported the president. Steve Bannon was yelling in a microphone a few years ago. And you guys together have built just a great Christian community of strength which has been missing. And hopefully that waves through the churches across this country and the synagogues. And they feel that same strength. We work together to keep it this way, right? To keep this new. This. This era of freedom where you and freedom from fear. We owe all that to God. And we're thankful for the War Room and Stephen K. Bannon. God bless you all. Spread the word.
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