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Episode 4257: Destruction Of The Oligarch Class; Trump Approval Rating Continues To Climb
Episode 4257: Destruction Of The Oligarch Class; Trump Approval Rating Continues To Climb ...
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Joe Scarborough
He's President again. Project 2025 fingerprints are all over his agenda. Even one of the key architects of Project 2025, Russell Vogt, is back in the administration, resuming the role he held during Trump's first administration. First administration, Director of the Office of Management and Budget. And on Friday, Vote was named acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which protects consumers from deceptive practices by banks, lenders or other financial institutions. The CFPB has been targeted for elimination by Project 2025, and now it's the latest federal agency to come into the crosshairs of President Trump and Elon Musk. Last night, Vote sent a series of directives to slow a portion of the Bureau's activity, effectively putting them at a standstill. And earlier today, CFPB's employees were told to start working remotely, as the Washington, D.C. headquarters will be closed all this week.
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Steve Bannon
What are we doing here?
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Jessica Tarlov
If federal funding is supposed to be.
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Jonah Goldberg
Routed through Congress and you are just bypassing us, then why do I show up to the Capitol every week? That's a great question. And for decades that I've been involved in government and politics, even the legislative side, even if it's split, government tends to work together to fight for their powers against the executive branch. It's not uncommon to see that. But what we're seeing now is that the Republicans, Republicans in the House and Senate are willing to completely fold to Donald Trump's will. They're buying into he has a mandate. He doesn't have a mandate. He has the slimmest majorities possible. In the house, he has three. He doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate. But they are afraid. I don't know how else to say. They have no political courage. What does it take? Maybe 20, 26, maybe. But I'm not putting any stock in that.
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Steve Bannon
You mean a midterm of the voters hold them accountable?
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Ben Shapiro
Yeah.
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Jonah Goldberg
Or yeah. And then they become a little free when some them get reelected, like a Susan Collins, for example. But at the end of the day, still, it troubles me so much to see that they are willing to abdicate the very thing that makes our country great. They are not willing to uphold the Constitution. They are not willing to live up to the oath they've taken. You can disagree, disagree with your Democrat counterparts, but at least fight for something. You're just simply abdicating everything. And especially, especially in the House and the House, I actually think they're happy. They don't have to take a bad vote.
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Ben Shapiro
Public opinion matters.
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Jack Posobiec
And the public did not give Trump a mandate to dismantle the whole chunks.
- [02:41]
Steve Bannon
Of the federal government.
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Jack Posobiec
Gave him a mandate to kick the tires, check the dipstick, and make sure that things are running well and efficiently. In that part, he has a mandate. But what Elon Musk is doing is way beyond any mandate that Trump could possibly realistically claim. And we're going to fight that government.
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Joe Scarborough
Remember, in his first term, Joe, you'll remember this, he wasn't much of a shrink the government kind of conservative. He wasn't doing very much, if anything, to pare back the scope and size of our federal state. Now suddenly they're shuttering agencies without congressional approval. They're, you know, sending these young 20 somethings in to agencies left and right to just make wholesale changes and reductions without any input from lawmakers. And on the foreign front, we're seeing a different kind of America first, right? Instead of America first isolationism, we're seeing kind of an America first imperialism. Instead of focusing on things within our borders, he's now focused on expanding our borders. And so this is a different kind of Trump in that sense.
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Jessica Tarlov
And I decided to average all the polls. And you know what? The average of the polls also has him on the positive side of the ledger. All right, let's take a look. Trump's net approval rating on February 9th. Look at this. In 2025, he's at plus 4 points. Look where he was in 2017, his first term. At this point, he was at minus 5 points. So he's doing nearly 10 points better on the average. And more than that, as I mentioned, it's not just the CBS News poll, it's the Ipsos poll, it's the Gallup poll, it's the Pew poll. All of these polls have him in better shape than those respective polls had him at this point back in 2017. So the bottom line is, no matter where you look, Donald Trump is more popular than, than he was eight years ago at this point in his first term. And he's on the positive side of the ledger versus the negative side of the zero point line as he was back in 2017.
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Joe Scarborough
And how rare is it that Trump's in this positive territory when it comes.
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Steve Bannon
To his approval rating?
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Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, you know, I remember Donald Trump's first term. And it just seemed every single day Donald Trump was in the negative territory. And it turns out it was pretty much every single day of his first term. Positive net approval rating for Donald Trump. Again, using the aggregate of the polls. Look at this. In his entire first term, just 11 days, just 11 days was he on the positive side of the ledger. Compare that so far. Every single day, all 20 days so far, he has been on the positive side of the ledger. So he has nearly doubled up the number of days in which he has a positive net approval rating from his first term. And we're only 20 days in every single day Donald Trump has been in positive territory compared to just 11 days during his first term. The bottom line is, no matter which poll you look at, no matter what way you look at it, simply put, Americans like the job that Donald Trump is doing significantly more this time around than they did in his first term when he just had 11 days in which he had a positive net approval rating compared to already nearly three weeks so far. Jessica.
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Ben Shapiro
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Steve Bannon
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Joe Scarborough
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ben Shapiro
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Jack Posobiec
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
It's Monday, the 10th of February, year of our Lord 2025. All out in the war between the populist nationalist movement, President Trump's second term, in the takedown of the administrative state, in the deep state. And they are fighting back on all fronts. A couple of their fronts are already kind of beat up and crushed, that is politically. They're feckless, hapless and wandering around. The media is also on its back foot, particularly these polls come out and overwhelmingly support President Trump. The CBS poll yesterday was incredible. We'll get to that in a moment. The front that looks like they're trying to slow us down and this is all blitzkrieg is in the courts. I'll address that. A lot to do today. A huge, huge work week for this audience of so much going on between confirmations, understanding what's happening on the war against the administrative state, international affairs, geopolitics, tons of economics. I want to get right to it. Jack Bosovic, A big cultural event yesterday, one for the people of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania and Eagles fans throughout the world, but also the backing of President Trump, the first president ever to attend a Super Bowl. I didn't even realize that President Trump didn't realize it either when it was brought up on the Fox thing. I thought at least a couple of the presidents back in the, in the 80s had gone. I thought Clinton had gone. I thought maybe Bush 41 had gone. Jack, talk to me about both the cultural, culturally, what happened yesterday, both in the game itself and then the festivities surrounding the game.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, what can I say? Big night for Philadelphia, for my family, for the Poso family. The people remember went pretty viral earlier in this year during the season when my brother and I got sent up to Eagles jail just a couple of months before, a couple of days before the election, going down and campaigning for Trump at Eagles Stadium, the Lincoln Financial Stadium itself with Cliff Maloney, by the way, from the PA Chase. But I kept telling people this is about Pennsylvania. And if you go into the heart of Philadelphia, that hard scrabble area, look, and I understand people have a view of Pennsylvania, of Philadelphia because of the recent crime, the homicide rate, the Soros prosecutor, all the stuff that's going on there, we're fighting it. We are absolutely fighting it. But I want you to think that there's another side of Philadelphia. There's the Poso, the Poso Bros. Philadelphia, the Poso family Philadelphia, the Sam Alito, Philadelphia, the Frank Rizzo, Philadelphia. This is a town full of hard workers, full, a town full of bare knuckle fighters and a town that will absolutely show up and deliver. And that's what you saw last night. It was sort of the people's team versus the corporate, with the Pfizer backing of Kansas City, you know, Pfizer and Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift and all the corporate media hoopla around that entire thing, which myself and Mike Benz called out last week or last year when we said that there's clearly the thumb on the scales behind all this stuff. And of course the media went after us and Saturday Night Live went after us. And then suddenly, suddenly we have this moment where President Trump walks in, he's shown on the Jumbotron saluting during the national anthem. The crowd erupts in cheers. Then a little while later, they put up Taylor Swift. So there's, there's Trump, you can see him with the cheers. Then a little while later, they put up Taylor Swift and the entire crowd is booing her. And there's this, this viral video now of her watching herself being booed. And she turns to her friends, she said what's going on? Because she's been in this bubble, this corporate crafted bubble, herself and Travis Kelsey, the same way that they use other people and I don't know her personally, have nothing against her personally, but the point is that they were trying to use her as and Steve, you and I talked about this a lot. They were trying to use her politically in 2024 until that bubble was popped by President Trump himself and a few others within the MAGA movement who called out these political forces formulating behind her, these corporate forces. Pop that bubble. President Trump came out swinging and now people really see it for what it is and they're completely sick of it. So I just want people to understand we've gone through a massive cultural shift where President Donald J. Trump is being cheered at the super bowl while Taylor Swift is being booed at the very same night in the very same and by the way, people want to talk about, oh well, that's, you know, that's Taylor Swift and it's an Eagles crowd. So maybe there are more. So she's from the Philadelphia area. This is supposed to be her hometown crowd. So I'm just saying maybe, maybe there's a little something going on when it comes to all this. Know somebody else from the Philadelphia area, by the way, Joe Biden, remember Scranton, Joe Easter, eastern part of Pennsylvania. He's putting the, by the way, they're putting the Biden Museum, they announced that's going to be in the Philadelphia area as well, because they understand Delaware is just a complete wasteland. That's what they've left behind there. So they're putting that in the Philadelphia area. Look, there's a huge shift going on on the ground. We tried, my brother and I, when we were doing all the work in Pennsylvania and in Philadelphia specifically, to show you that the shift was going on. But it harkens to a larger shift that's going on in the country where the era of blm, the era of high wokeness has gone astray and it has been replaced by the era of high maga.
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Steve Bannon
Talk to me about the whole because people, a lot of people don't know this, don't live on the east coast and maybe don't live up in that part of the Northeast. But when you say the Frank Rizzo element of it, Philadelphia is a very tough town. You can't go to a tough, as hard as it is to go to Boston Garden, right, and see a bunch of executives and working class guys get in, particularly with the Bruins or to go to a Rangers game, game in, in, in, in New York City. But Philadelphia Eagles football is right up there with Rangers games and Bruins games of being a little rough. Talk to me about the Rizzo influence. Got a minute or two? I want people to understand that Philadelphia is not mainline. Right? It is. It gets quite dicey, sir.
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Jack Posobiec
No, this isn't, this isn't Josh Shapiro's main line. No, no, no. This is when, when you're in Philadelphia, especially when it's Frank Rizzo's Philadelphia. This is the place where the journalists would come and try to try to. He was the mayor back in the 60s 70s and the police chief before then. When the journalist would show up at his house that he would pick fights, physical fist fights with the journalists and throw them out and throw the cameras out and call them a bu of crumb bums. He was the one that would lead the crackdowns on the riots in the 60s. He would lead the crackdowns on the Black Panthers and police officers were caught. He would just order the cops to go around and round them all up, strip searching people. He did. And he did, by the way, what he had to do to keep the city clean. You might even say that a certain New York Mayor Giuliani got a little bit of the Frank Rizzo playbook there in the 1990s. Of course I would never say that.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, a little bit of the playbook, but not the. Real quickly, the statue of Frank Rizzo is that, was that a victim of blm? Is that, is that the statue gone? Is it still there?
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Jack Posobiec
The statue of Frank Rizzo as well as the great statue of Kate Smith there in Philadelphia have been taken down. And Steve, those are absolutely on my list for restoration. But the one statue that we did sit keep up in Philadelphia, South Philly, Chris Columbus is still standing right there in South Philly because the people of South Philly said you want, you want to take down Chris, you got to come through us.
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Steve Bannon
And get it Poso. We got a lot to talk about geopolitically. You're bringing that, you're bringing that Frank Rizzo angle of attack on things. Big news on poso this week. Also big news about President Trump. What's happening overseas? Geopolitics we got economy, the budget, the tax process, the administrative state, the courts. Mike Davis, President Trump's appointing as much as they say the tech bros owning. He's appointing anti big tech folks to the regulatory apparatus that oversees big tech. So it's a day of action, action, action in the war room. Back in a moment.
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Jack Posobiec
America's hold on.
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Ben Shapiro
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Jessica Tarlov
It's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying and that they're keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April of 2017. It was just 46% of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do. Compare that now to February of 2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called A Different World. That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. 70% of Americans say Trump is doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017, when it's just 46%, when Americans are 24 points more likely to say that you're doing what you promised to do. It's no wonder that your net approval rating is much more likely to be on the positive side of the ledger than on the negative side. And so far, what we're seeing again is Americans 21 days so far versus just 11 days during his entire first term that Trump has a positive net approval rating. Quite a different world.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, this is the predicate. This lays the foundation for everything that's going forward. And you know, we're fighting on many fronts. I want to make note here for the audience. Gold's at 2933 all time high. Earlier 2935. It's not the price of gold. It's about gold as a store of value. Take out number two pencil and write that down. Gold as store of value. It's been a store of value for 5,000 years of man's recorded history. Go to birchgold today birchgold.combannon Right. And you get the end of the Dollar Empire. Please take the sixth free installment. We're going to be announcing something about this whole program we're doing because it's gotten such overwhelming support. But you must read and just take it on. Absorb what you can of modern monetary theory. Don't let it, you know, back you off because much of what we're going to talk about on the budget process and let me just say this, the Hill newspaper yesterday for people on Getter and please, everyone should download Getter or go to the Getter website. I'm up there 247 putting up things I think are interesting or to know. I kind of build the case of a lot of things there. I do link to a lot of what I would call left wing, the Guardian, Politico, cnn. So you can see how in information narrative warfare, because Jack Posobie is the best of this, it's all about narrative warfare. You get to understand it. On Getter, I put up a story yesterday, one of the first stories Sunday morning in the Hill was about, wait for it, the continuing resolution and how March 14, everything and all these things are running around doing reconciliation are important, but they're not the thing itself. They're not the thing itself. I'm a drill down on that as we've been talking about it. Because right now, unless there's some changes and there's still time for changes, what they intend to do is acquiesce to keep the government running around March 14 and kick the can down for the full rest of fiscal year to go full to go all the way to September 30th. That means President Trump, his first year is working off Joe Biden's budget. It means that none of the stuff you see a doge right now, whether it's the kind of the small ball stuff you're seeing on hey, this research project's terrible, which is all great are some of the bigger things that are getting into, like shutting down usaid or shutting down the Consumer Protection Board, which is, you know, 80% of that's total scam. Or over at the Pentagon, you got across the Potomac, none of that would be included because you just go off the existing numbers of Biden's budget and it has baked in there already a $2 trillion deficit. So it would be a total surrender to Biden and Pelosi in the first year of President Trump's term. And he just saw he's got 70% approval on people saying he's doing what he said he would do. One of this is to cut this deficit and have massive cuts of federal spending. That's the entire reason you have Elon Musk and the Doge Doge both. They're both auditing for corruption and incompetence and malfeasance. But they're also going to come back with Stephen Miller, the deputy White House chief of staff for policy, and Russ Vote, head of omb, to talk about actually taking apart the administrative state program by program and cutting the massive federal deficit. Elon said he could cut a trillion dollars out. None of that will happen now. You're going to be the soldiers at the front line of this. Also many confirmations. Davis will be up about the legal, about the making sure President Trump has got people in there to go against the oligarchs and about this entire budgeting process, all of it, which you're going to be at the front lines on. Jack, I want to posobec. You brought up something and I wanted to play that cbs, that CNN talking about, the CBS poll. The CBS poll was nothing short of shocking if you are a President Trump supporter. I know for the opposition, they're in the mumble tag, but it was so positive. Give me your assessment of where he stands, the American people. And then I want to play the manifestation that you brought up last. And actually, people see the video and hear the audio of what America thinks of the Trump version of MAGA versus the credentialed in elite class personified by Pfizer's own Kelsey's boyfriend, Taylor Swift. Sir.
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Jack Posobiec
Look, Steve, 53%. And by the way, this is 53% where President Trump's approval is sitting at. And that's after the nominations, after all of the executive actions that they told us were deeply unpopular. They told us the American people don't want this stuff. And then you have two things that happen on the same day. The 53% that drops from CBS News in the morning and then President Trump walking onto the field at the Super Bowl. Right there in New Orleans at the Superdome and getting a standing ovation from the crowd while Taylor Swift has been booed. Look, you don't need to take my word for it. We saw the culture shift here a year ago. We told you that this was coming a year ago. Nobody wanted to hear us. They said it was high. Taylor Swift, they said it was high. Everything else, we're going to do more wokeness, we're going to do more all of this. But they, but they didn't see it. They didn't see that the ground was shifting under them, that people were. And by the way, you did see this last night in some of the advertisements, because the way it works with the channeling on those advertisements, that, that, that pipeline starts a year in advance. So you, what you did see were woke advertisements. You saw a halftime show that was mid at best. This was not playing to all of America. There were other elements I thought that were wonderful. I thought the national anthem was great. A lot of this. And by the way, to the folks out there who say, why do you care about the Super Bowl? Why do you care about this? Right? The super bowl is America's largest spectacle. This is the Roman Coliseum and the Gladiators of America, which is the new Rome. This is our great championship event of the entire nation that everyone tunes into. And whether you like it or not, and you know, I say this as a guy who's from a football town, but whether you like it or not, this is the country as it is. And President Trump always understood that. That's why. What did Trump stand against? The kneeling. He stood against the kneeling from the very start. He identified that as anti American and that he wrapped himself in the flag and wrapped himself in patriotism. And let's go back to it, because who was it? What was the team? Colin Kaepernick was the one who started that on the Kansas City Chiefs. And who was there sitting right next to him, or I should say kneeling right next to him? Travis Kelsey. So it was Travis Kelsey all along with the blm, with the wokeness. That was the way they backfilled it. And people remember the NFL being used to promote Obamacare back all the way in the mid-2000s. That's what broke. People were finally sick of the crap. They were sick of the nonsense. And that's what's given Trump this massive wave of support. That's what's given the populist nationalist brand, this massive wave of support. People want to support America. They want to support their country. They're Sick of being told what to do. They're sick of being told that some people are better than others. They just want to see skill. They want to see merit. They want to see achievement. They don't want some massive corporate sponsor sitting there and barking orders to them anymore. They're still the American people. We have always been the most independent people in the world. And by the way, a center right country. America's always been a center right country. This ain't Canada, boys and girls. Canada. I don't know, I would say maybe center left country. And you know, the Canadian Conservatives and Pierre up there, I'll show you every chance they get because they don't have the same roots that we are. We threw off the crown. We are the ones who stood up and said, no more. We're going to be our own people. We don't want to be some international system empire that's run out of the city of London. We are going to be a nation state and we're going to focus on ourselves. And that's where the hemispheric defense policy came from, which our founders adhered to, by the way. Born amidst empires, right? We had the Spanish Empire, the British Empire, the Russian Empire was here on the North American continent back then. But at the time, America said, we will not be an empire. We will be a republic and a nation state. That's always what our constitution was set up for, to make us be a nation state. Not this globalist, monoculture, homogenous, global, homogenized culture. No, we are going to be the American people. Independent, strong. And that's what you see coming out. And President Trump saw those energies building and harnessed it. That's why he's having the political force that he has now.
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Steve Bannon
Let's. Let's play that. Let's play the. Let's play the clip of Trump and we'll go to break. Trump and Taylor Swift. Well, the worm has turned, brother. Posobic America overwhelmingly supports President Trump and maga. And Taylor Swift, not so much. Correct.
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Jack Posobiec
Travis. Travis was supposed to propose last night. He was going to get the big trophy. He was going to propose there on the field. But Taylor, I don't know. I'll put it this way. At least Taylor's got material for her new album.
- [27:54]
Steve Bannon
Since I've never listened to one note or one lyric, I take it that has. That's a bad heartache. Okay, we take a short commercial break. Birchgold.com They've got a pamphlet. Go. Just type in Bannon B A N N O N 989-898 investing in gold during the Trump administration. The second term. I would call it the age of Trump. Pretty extraordinary for folks have been with us for a long time. Another called Shot by the War Room. Make sure you go to Birch Gold Day. Check it out. We got a lot to get through. Every second is going to be packed with information you need to mull over. How about that short break post of Ben Harno on the other side?
- [28:40]
Ben Shapiro
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Jessica Tarlov
The things that's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying and that they're keeping their campaign promises. So I think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may be going on. Trump's doing what he promised to do. You go back to April of 2017. It was just 46% of all Americans who said that Trump was doing what he promised to do. Compare that now to February of 2025. You know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called a different World. That is what's going on right now. We're living in a different world. 70% of Americans say Trump is doing what he promised to do. Again, compare that to April of 2017 when it's just 46%, when Americans are 24 points more likely to say that you're doing what you promised to do. It's no wonder that your net approval rating is much more likely to be on the positive side of the ledger than on the negative. Side and so far, what we're seeing again is Americans 21 days so far versus just 11 days during its entire first term that Trump has a positive net approval rating. Quite a different world.
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Steve Bannon
Unbelievable. I also want to play the 70, the CB, the Harry Anton's on the 70% too. Let's, let's get that teed up, Jack. This, this, it's quite frankly, it's unbelievable, right? It's unbelievable. It's stunning. What his support is and even on what he's doing is absolutely incredible. So the predicate, the predicate is pretty enormous of what President Trump's doing now this week. You're actually going to be. Because we got, remember, let's go back to the war room theory of the case. You have to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War. You have to start the mass deportations, secure the border and start the mass deportations. Get the 10 to 12 million invaders out of here. Then you've got the existential. You have to get your hands around the budget. All three of those are coming at the same time. You're deconstructing the administrative state and starting the investigations in the vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump in the MAGA movement. Let's go to the. Because I am increasingly concerned, I'm increasingly concerned that we have a little bit losing the plot. Not President Trump, but Pete Bryan, because I think he's in direct conversation with Putin. You've got Zelinsky running around the time of security forces. The British talk about putting troops in. He's offering now minerals, the mineral wealth of Ukraine. If America commits to ongoing security commitment, which means troops and money. Where are we? And you've got these big international conferences coming up. Pete Hexit's going over. I think the vice president's going to be there. They're going to go to the Munich security conference. Everybody around. I think you're going over with the secretary of defense in that group of reporters. Tell me about what we can plan for and is somebody getting. Because General Kellogg is a guy I love. He's a fantastic guy, a hero. 82nd Airborne was with us in the first term. I'm not sure I'm digging what I'm hearing coming out of the people giving President Trump options about Ukraine. Sir.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, this is going to be a huge week for, as you say, the kinetic part of the Third World War. And we're going to be winding it down. The message that's going to be sent this week to NATO conference as well as at the Munich security conference is Going to be the same message that President Trump campaigned on. No more forever wars. The war will be wrapped up. There will be a ceasefire. You already saw him broker one in the Middle East. You're going to see a ceasefire. And by the way, not just a deal to end the war. You're going to see potentially a big deal between the US and the various entities there on the European and Eurasian landmass, deciding what should the future security posture look like? Because the real danger here, of course, as we all know, President Trump's only in for four out four years. You get someone else in there and they start putting the pedal back on again, you could have the same exact situation flare up exactly as happened when Joe Biden was in. So that's what you really need to look for. So it's all about Naito, it's about Brussels, it's about their. Their influence, and it's about their designs, their desires and their obsession, their obsession with trying to poke the bear to the east as they move the NATO armies eastward, which, by the way, means US Backstopped NATO bodies and NATO soldiers and NATO equipment and US Dollars and taxpayer dollars and money. So this is where it all comes together. Where it all comes together is the Munich Security Conference. Munich security conference, where 2009, Vladimir Putin shows up. Putin shows up and says, don't move NATO east. And what did NATO do? They went east Easter, Easter, and more and more and more eastward every single year since then. Then you have Kamala Harris going there just, what, one week before the outbreak of all of it, almost exactly three years ago, and she says Ukraine will become a member of NATO. And what happened days later, the tanks rolled into Ukraine. That's how this all started almost exactly three years ago to the day at the Munich Security Conference. So now President Trump has dispatched. J.D. vance, is already on his way there, by the way, with Raheem Kassam in tow with J.D. vance. You got Pete Hegseth, where I'll be joining, and then Keith Kellogg, who I believe will also be going to Munich and then moving forward into Kiev itself for a sit down with Zelinsky. I do expect Zelinsky to also be at Munich, potentially the NATO conference. If not him, I'm sure whoever minister of defense that he has for Ukraine will be there as well. But the point being is this. The United States is under new management, and President Trump delivered a mandate and a president and a promise not just to the people of America, but to the people of the world that the Third World War has been canceled. That it will not occur on his watch and that he is going to put this down. Now, we know that Keith Kellogg's plan was leaked days ago. We're not sure exactly who it leaked. It may have been from the Ukrainian side, but it includes a phased series of talks and series of negotiations, not just between President Trump, Zelensky and Putin, but between Putin and Zelensky directly. So that's going to come out, and we've seen this first negotiation platform come in. But look, Steve, tie it back to the budget deal, tie it back to the spending, tie it back to everything that's going on. You want to cut spending and discretionary. The biggest line item that you can find is the Ukraine war. That's where we can cut appro. We can cut the appropriation, we can cut spending immediately. Day one. And so, of course, what are you going to hear? You're going to hear the war lobby come back in saying. They're going to say, whoa, whoa, yeah, we're going to end the war, but that doesn't mean we have to end the weapons shipment. Right? That's going to be the next play. So the next play that the MAGA posse needs to watch out for, when you're seeing these guys go up there and they're lobbying for all this, they're gonna say, oh, we need to secure the peace. We need to secure the peace. And securing the peace means more bombs, more bullets, more drones or tanks for Zelensky. That's going to be the next piece of it that you got to pay the money. The American taxpayer has to pay it. And you know something? I think the more rum posse would agree with me when I say the American taxpayer is tapped out.
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Steve Bannon
No in particular. They want the rebuilding, all of it. Here's. Here's the negotiating strategy. We're out. Just tell us the. We're out, and then let's negotiate. We're out. No money, no troops, no commitment. No focus. Jax, I want you to say this one more time about the Third World War. President Trump and the MAGA movement is. Is doing what to the Third World War right now? By. By. By acting so. So tough and so focused.
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Jack Posobiec
Canceled. The Third World War is canceled. So there is no. There's not going to be a proxy war that turns into a hot war. There's not going to be this NATO coming in and Russia invades Poland and triggers Article 5 and all this nonsense. And then you got the Bosphorus being opened up by NATO forces and putting pressure on Turkey to do that. And come up through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, through the Black Sea. No, no, no, we're not doing it. We're not going down that road. The American people, which by the way, was the road we were on, the road to nuclear escalation under Biden. And Kamala Harris, who was the same Kamala Harris that spoke at the Munich security conference in 2022, that kicked off all of this, would easily have put us on the same path. Why? Because she would outsourced it to all the people who lost their security clearances over the weekend, like Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan and all the rest of them, because those were the ones that were running U.S. foreign policy. And by the way, Samantha Power, I'm very sorry about your USAID funding getting completely dried up. Because, Steve, that's the other piece of this is that USAID was funding so much of the propaganda, not just in Ukraine, but all across Europe. And so there's a series, one of the, one of the other legs of the stool here is that there are a series of elections, presidential elections. You got Poland coming up in a couple of months, in May, you've got Romania after they canceled the Supreme Court came in and canceled the election and said, whoa, whoa, this guy got too many TikTok retweets and likes and all the rest and shares. So they canceled their election. Now all of the left wing media, the left wing outlets in those countries is falling because their funding is all dried up. The minute that they turned off USAID and President Trump went after us, I wonder, I wonder why it was that all the left wing media was being in Europe, was being propped up by US Taxpayer dollars. And that's why. And I know that Carrie Lake is going to be coming in on the Voice of America side. She's going to be there for Radio Free Europe and the rest of it. I think she should absolutely turn that into a pro America bastion of freedom and prosperity and the nation state around the entire world. Not just in Europe, but to the Lao Beijing in China and all the rest of it. I really think that's a fantastic role. And who better than her to head that up, by the way?
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Steve Bannon
But this funding that goes directly insane, people have to understand they funded the invasion of the United States. They funded the left wing media that tried to take down all the populist nationalist movements in Europe. They funded the media and the suppression with big tech to try to destroy the MAGA movement and try to destroy a free media really devolving here. They supported the mainstream media it's outrageous. On Voice of America particularly, and this is every government operation, let's take her example. Carrie Lake either has the flexibility to immediately turn it around to a pro American and I mean really pro American and get rid of all the spies. There's tons of spies in that operation. Get rid of all the, all the foreign intelligence officers, particularly in the Mandarin language in the Chinese. Vet them all. Get rid of them. Right. That don't pass vetting and I mean didn't go after him legally, criminally, they're in there or I agree with Elon Musk, shut the whole thing down. Either Carrie Lake can get in there for 30 days and say, hey, this is what we can do to turn this thing around or just shut the whole thing down. It's either going to be pro American or just don't pay for anymore. And this should be every, this should be every division of the government. Right. Everything they're looking at in particular over the Pentagon, if it's not working for America first is not working for the American citizen. These things have to be shuttered. I mean go to zero. This is what I love about what's going on right now. It's the administrative state and the deep state. Ryan Fournier and I'm getting Grace to put he's tweeting out that CNN's talking about senior Pentagon officials in uniform military service are already meeting to thwart President Trump. Pete Hegseth and what Elon Musk and we've been the biggest advocate cross the Potomac. They're already meeting over the weekend. How that's all going to be thwarted. Fournier asked. Is that not treason? JACK bosovic well, Steve, if you're a.
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Jack Posobiec
Uniformed service member, then you fall under the Uniform Code of Military justice the same way that Vindman fell under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Didn't receive a pardon, by the way, I'd point out just, you know, just asking for a friend if his pardon ever showed up in the mail from Joe Biden there. The same way that we know that General Milley is under the Uniform Code of Military justice that all the generals by the way, I also saw that President Trump, as we've been speaking, just fired the heads of the board of visitors for the Army, Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard because he's sick of the service academies and the wokeness that's been that's seeped in there. Look, we went through a long march through the institutions under started under Obama and then it was solidified under Joe Biden. What they are doing now is shock therapy to the institutions. We will force the institutions of America to become bastions of patriotism for the United States. Again. That's the military. That's the National Endowment for the arts. And the 250th coming up. That's even the Kennedy Center. We are going after all of it.
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Steve Bannon
Jack, I'm going to give your coordinates, but on the Kennedy Center. I'll talk more about this in the next block. I think the J6. That's the high church of the administrative state, Deep state. And he got rid of Rubenstein. He's appointed himself chairman. The J6 choir should come and have a. We should have a special program there and make the.
- [43:34]
Jack Posobiec
Make Lomas the new chairman from Passage Press. Give it to Lomas.
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Steve Bannon
I love it. Jack, what's your Twitter? We got 10 seconds. What is it?
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Jack Posobiec
Jack Posobic. Follow me there.
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Ben Shapiro
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Jack Posobiec
Host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
At 6. I'm trying to get Roger Kimball and I'm trying to get Lomaz also to come on. This Kennedy center thing is big, folks. Big. They're crushed over there. That is not. I say it was a clubhouse. It's not. It's the high church of the secular, atheistic administrative state that runs the Imperial Capital. That's their playground. And to think the Visigoths are going to show up. And President Trump now as chairman, ought to fire them all, including the staff, and just reprogram the Whole thing. I strongly believe you start off with the J6 choir, having them in an evening's entertainment and invite all the first guests that should be invited should be the J6 prisoners. Invite them and their families an evening's entertainment and just watch the meltdown of the Washington elite. Watch the meltdown. An evening. In fact, go on a night. They got one of their operas. And look, I'm an opera fan and symphony fan, but go, you got to do this. You got to pick one of their favorite operas. They got thing, boom, canceled. We're going to have the J6 choir instead. Oh, by the way, the premium ticket holders down front, you're giving up your seats for the J6 families. Think that get their attention. That culturally you'd break them. And Rubenstein has been replaced by Trump, and he's got to be thrown off the board, too. Horrible guy. Horrible guy in a Trump hater. A virulent Trump hater in maga. Hater. Ben Harnwell from the Eternal City in Europe, I take it. Europe, they're not getting the joke of MAGA is recommending to President Trump. And look, President Trump's got many things he's got to balance, and he's also empathetic and a good man. He's got a big heart. But you see Zelinsky throwing this stuff out with the, with the minerals, those little snakes over there trying everything they can possibly do to make America committed to troops, to money, for security, and they're going to want trillions of dollars from us for the rebuilding program. The list for the rebuilding program should start in Appalachia, East Palestine. Right? Maybe if the people in LA get their act together and cancel these sanctuary Cities and the $50 million fund to fight President Trump, maybe even throw LA in there. There's so many parts of the United States that have to be rebuilt. If we're going to do that, the money's got to go there. Not a penny overseas on this. Not a penny for Ukraine. 0. No money for security agreements. No troops, no money. 0. If Boris Johnson and the guys in London are such big shots, if they're in Paris and in Berlin, it's all yours, baby. President Trump, we're going to cut a deal with the independent, eventually independent Greenland, and we're going to bottle up the Russian submarines up there so they're not a threat anymore. We're going to take the Panama Canal because the people in Panama want us to do it. They're throwing the CCP out. We're going to have the Monroe Doctrine, 2.0, the Russian army, the artillery they're so famous for, and the tanks. That's Europe's problem. Ben Harnwell, where do we stand in all this?
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Ben Harnwell
Steve, that's a pretty magisterial synthesis. I'm not sure how I add anything to. To that. I was listening in the previous segment to you, imposter. I wish I had Jack's degree of confidence here, because of course, that's what everyone expected that come January 20 and the inauguration, Trump was going to put an end to US Engagement. That's what everyone expected. It's what we'd been looking forward to repeatedly for many, many months on this show. But I have to say, with my beady, cynical eyes tracking every single development on this issue, there hasn't been, to date publicly revealed a great deal that confirms that expected hope. Look, going back to General Kellogg last week, he pushed out a note to say that at this Munich security conference, he was going to release something of Donald Trump's strategy for Ukraine that was walked back, really by him within 48 hours and said, no, no, actually, you know what? The president himself is going to release this plan when he's ready to do so. I'm just going to sort of be feeding in sort of bits of advice and assisting him to that. I sort of think when I'm looking at things like, Steve, at this stage in the game, I'm not sure a decision has been made with regards to Ukraine's future and America's future with regards to Ukraine. It could go either way. On the basis of what is publicly out there. It could go either way. That is to say, President Trump could decide to continue the former Biden administration policy. And to some extent in the last two weeks, he has actually been doing that on a number of fronts. So you mentioned, or Jack mentioned in the previous segment, Munich. That's Friday, Saturday, Sunday of this week. Zelensky is going to be there. He's pencilled in to have a meeting with Vice President Vance. You've got Pete Hegseth there as well. Also, Wang Yi, the Chinese foreign minister, is going to be there. David Lamy, the UK Foreign minister, is going to be there. It's pretty much like the global military industrial complex's version of Davos. It's been going for 60 years, 61 years. It is a big thing in that sector. Obviously, this time around, all eyes are on it because they're looking for an indication of what President Trump is going to decide to do with regards to Ukraine. What you said before in your question, though, is A thousand percent. A million percent. Correct. For the war in posse. This is not a difficult call for him to make. It's total and immediate disengagement. No security. US underwritten security guarantees. Europe can do whatever it wants to do and basically not even interested in the rare earths or the minerals to security guarantees.
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Jack Posobiec
That is what are the, are the immediate.
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Steve Bannon
Is there any enthusiasm in New York if, without the United States, is there any, any enthusiasm for Europe to step in and clean up the mess that they did? President Trump's hands are clean here. No blood on him. He would have stopped this whole thing. It would have never happened. That's what's so tragic about this. Is there any commitment at all you see in Europe to do anything on their own? Finally on this, Ben Harnwell, anything meaningful, sir?
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Ben Harnwell
Well, firstly, with regards to President Trump's hands being clean, they were absolutely clean on January 20th. We're now sort of 20 days in three weeks in I think in terms of popular psychology, popular perception, if even at this point where he turn out a disengagement there would some of that be, that there would be a sense of defeat here. Surrender. Some of that now will be on him and not on Joe Biden because these last few weeks have been so impactful. Biden's already.
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Steve Bannon
Ben, just, just, just hang on a second. I'm going to hold you through the break. I want to clean this up. I'm going to finish.
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