Episode 4265: Swearing In Of Tulsi Gabbard; Pam Bondi Goes After The State Of New York

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4265: Swearing In Of Tulsi Gabbard; Pam Bondi Goes After The State Of New York

Release Date: February 13, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org

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1. Tulsi Gabbard's Confirmation as Director of National Intelligence

Key Points:

• The episode opens with the confirmation of Tulsi Gabbard as the new Director of National Intelligence (DNI).
• The Senate vote concluded with a narrow margin of 52-48, where all Democrats opposed, and Senator Mitch McConnell, the former Republican leader, broke ranks by voting against Gabbard.

Notable Quotes:

• Senator Mitch McConnell (00:00):

  "The Senate's power of advice and consent is not an option. It is an obligation and one we cannot pretend to misunderstand."

• Host, Stephen K. Bannon (00:00):

  "The nation should not have to worry that the intelligence assess president receives are tainted by a Director of National Intelligence with a history of alarming lapses in judgment."

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2. Mitch McConnell's Opposition to Gabbard's Nomination

Key Points:

• McConnell criticized Gabbard's judgment, referencing Edward Snowden and expressing concerns about her ability to handle sensitive intelligence matters.
• He highlighted the importance of stable leadership in intelligence amidst global threats from China and Russia.

Notable Quotes:

• McConnell (00:00):

  "Edward Snowden's treasonous betrayal of the United States and its most sensitive law, intelligence activities, endangered sources, methods and lives."

• Bannon (00:00):

  "That is pretty sharp from Mitch McConnell, I would say."

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3. Swearing-In Ceremony of Tulsi Gabbard

Key Points:

• The podcast features the ceremonial swearing-in of Tulsi Gabbard as DNI, jointly administered by Gabbard and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General.

Notable Quotes:

• Tulsi Gabbard (02:28):

  "I, Tulsi Gabbard, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

• Pam Bondi (02:31):

  "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

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4. Pam Bondi Targets the State of New York

Key Points:

• Pam Bondi, the new Attorney General, delivered a press briefing announcing lawsuits against New York State officials, including Governor Kathy Hochul and Attorney General Letitia James.
• Bondi criticized New York’s "sanctuary city" policies, accusing the state of prioritizing illegal aliens over American citizens, leading to increased violence and drug trafficking.
• She introduced Tammy Nobles, an "angel mom," who shared her tragic story of her daughter Kayla Hamilton's murder by an illegal immigrant, underscoring Bondi's stance against lax immigration enforcement.

Notable Quotes:

• Pam Bondi (10:46):

  "New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens, aliens over American citizens. It stops. It stops today."

• Tulsi Gabbard (12:47):

  "His murderer was able to come across the border knowing that he was flagged as an MS-13 gang member... Homeland Security did not do their jobs."

• Pam Bondi (15:59):

  "We have one angel mom too many. And we have angel moms throughout this country who should not be going through this."

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5. Legal Actions Against New York's Immigration Policies

Key Points:

• Bondi detailed the lawsuits filed against New York officials for violating federal immigration laws through their sanctuary policies.
• She emphasized the administration’s commitment to holding states accountable, signaling a broader crackdown on sanctuary cities nationwide.
• Bondi addressed concerns about possible leaks within the FBI that compromised ICE raids, threatening law enforcement operations.

Notable Quotes:

• Pam Bondi (18:10):

  "The green light laws are unconstitutional. They can't do that."

• Bannon (03:21):

  "If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved."

• Pam Bondi (21:50):

  "Anytime anyone leaks or tips off anything regarding a pending investigation that jeopardizes lives, you're telling a bad guy what's about to happen."

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6. Budget Critique and Fiscal Concerns

Key Points:

• The discussion shifts to the newly released federal budget, which Bondi and Bannon criticize as flawed and insufficient.
• Bannon argues the budget includes $4.5 trillion in tax cuts over ten years, comparing it unfavorably to President Trump's 2017 tax bill.
• Concerns are raised about the national debt, rising inflation, and the absence of meaningful spending cuts to address long-term fiscal sustainability.

Notable Quotes:

• Pam Bondi (24:25):

  "We have red light laws, meaning they're giving a green light to any illegal alien in New York."

• Stephen K. Bannon (03:15 & 38:00):

  "The people have had a belly full of it."
  "It's a sick joke. The sick joke, particularly about the lack of political will of trying to cut spending."

• Pam Bondi (21:36):

  "These green light laws are unconstitutional because they tip off illegal aliens."

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7. Economic Forecasts and National Security

Key Points:

• Bannon discusses alarming economic forecasts predicting a depression by 2030 due to unsustainable Social Security and Medicare obligations, a shrinking workforce, and rising national debt.
• Emphasis is placed on diversifying investments into physical gold as a safeguard against economic instability.

Notable Quotes:

• Steve Bannon (05:35 - 08:00):

  "Health isn't just a personal issue. It's a family issue. We're living in unpredictable times."

• Steve Bannon (46:47):

  "Heart disease builds over time. A healthy heart is key to being energetic as we get older."

Note: Advertisement segments promoting products like Birch Gold, Jace case, Tax Network USA, and War Room Health were present but omitted from this summary as per instructions.

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8. International Relations and Ukraine

Key Points:

• The podcast touches on U.S. military support for Europe, specifically Ukraine, with a shift in priorities as articulated by Pete Hegseth.
• Hegseth suggests that the U.S. will reduce its defense commitment to Europe, urging European allies to take more responsibility for their own security.

Notable Quotes:

• Stephen K. Bannon (48:00):

  "Protection of Europe is no longer like a number one priority for the United States."

• Pete Hegseth (48:00):

  "We're around and we're an ally, but we're not underwriting your security anymore."

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9. Concluding Remarks and Ongoing Legal Battles

Key Points:

• Bannon highlights the ongoing legal battles against New York's sanctuary policies, positioning Pam Bondi as a key figure in this offensive.
• Discussion includes the broader implications for federal-state relations and the dismantling of the "deep state."

Notable Quotes:

• Stephen K. Bannon (55:59):

  "This is Soros based. They've got to think about in the financial capital of the world."

• Pam Bondi (24:35):

  "We want people to comply with the law. This is very simple."

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Conclusion

Episode 4265 of Bannon’s War Room delves deep into significant political and legal developments, primarily focusing on Tulsi Gabbard's confirmation as DNI and Pam Bondi’s aggressive actions against New York's sanctuary city policies. The episode underscores a concerted effort by the Trump administration to enforce federal immigration laws, reform the intelligence community, and address fiscal challenges. Through incisive commentary and firsthand accounts, the hosts and guests present a narrative emphasizing law and order, economic prudence, and national security.

Transcript

[Jake Sherman]

Senate voted to confirm Tulsi Gabbard as the new Director of National Intelligence. The final tally was 52 to 48, with all Democrats voting in opposition, while Senator Mitch McConnell was the only Republican who voted no. In a sharp statement that he released after the vote, the former leader of the Republican Party said this, quote, the Senate's power of advice and consent is not an option. It is an obligation and one we cannot pretend to misunderstand. The nation should not have to worry that the intelligence assess president receives are tainted by a Director of National Intelligence with a history of alarming lapses in judgment, adding, quote, edward Snowden's treasonous betrayal of the United States and its most sensitive law, intelligence activities, endangered sources, methods and lives. Japan is among America's closest treaty allies in the Indo Pacific, and the risk of conflict in the region is the product of Chinese aggression, not Western threat inflation. Russia's escalation of its unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine threatens American interests and is solely the responsibility of Vladimir Putin. And trusting the coordination of the intelligence community to someone who struggles to acknowledge these facts is an unnecessary risk. Jake Sherman, still with us. That is pretty sharp from Mitch McConnell, I would say.

[Katie]

So. Mitch McConnell unplugged, I guess you could say, Katie. I mean, listen, this is somebody who's now voted against Pete Hagseth for Defense Secretary and for Tulsa, Gabbard for DNI. Next up is, is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Who is, as we all know, we don't need to relitigate the whole thing, but has been skeptical, skeptical rather about the efficacy of vaccines. Mitch McConnell, of course, is a polio survivor. I don't know how he's going to come down on that, but he's clearly not encumbered by the idea that he's a Republican. He is a Republican and that he needs to vote down the line for the, for President Trump. But I mean, listen, the entire rest of the Senate Republican Conference to a person is supporting his nominees. And Trump has had a clean sweep here. I mean, he has got through after the, the Matt Gaetz episode in which he nominated Matt Gaetz to be Attorney General. Trump has moved, the Trump White House has moved really, really efficiently to get his Cabinet in place in, I think, ways that I didn't, definitely in ways I didn't expect and a lot of people didn't expect up here.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I, Tulsi Gabbard, do solemnly swear that.

[Pam Bondi]

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

That I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all.

[Pam Bondi]

Enemies, foreign and domestic.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

[Pam Bondi]

And that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

And that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.

[Pam Bondi]

That I take this obligation freely.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I take this obligation freely.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The people have had a belly full of it.

[Steve Bannon]

I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If that answer is to save my.

[Steve Bannon]

Country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Wednesday, the 12th of February, year of the Lord 2025. You're in the War Room for our late afternoon early evenings show in a snowy and rather cold Washington, D.C. the imperial capital. A lot been happening right there. In fact, I may want to cut that if Denver can just cut the oath of office. Talk about for this audience in the years of working on this and for those of us that were with us in the 14 and 15 over at Breitbart and, and then in the 16 campaign. But then, you know, the first term, the years of struggle in the wilderness after the second election was stolen and Pam Bondi being one of the stalwarts of that and then coming back with that great campaign and Tulsi Gabbard being so important in that, to see there in the, in the what was in the Oval. To see Pam Bondi to see Pam Bondi swearing in Tulsi Gabbard as DNI and to know what this audience did at the end, I think it was right and just that Mitch McConnell voted against her and had the snarky and hateful statements he said about her. Given what this audience has struggled against Mitch McConnell, can we, is that, is it doable to play that again? I want to just play the swearing in.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I, Tulsi Gabbard, do solemnly swear that.

[Pam Bondi]

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

That I will support and defend the.

[Pam Bondi]

Constitution of the against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

[Pam Bondi]

And that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

And that I will bear true faith and Allegiance to the same that I.

[Pam Bondi]

Take this obligation freely.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

I take this obligation freely.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I think they would know. I think they, I think the White House site cut that a little tight. It goes on, but she took it. Tulsi Gabbard, director of dni, ladies and gentlemen, great work. Using Bill Blaster with Grace chung and article three with Mike Davis. You got her done. 202-224-3121. Bobby Kennedy up next. I think that may be later tonight as we find out about that may be in the dark of night. We're trying to get these across. Of course, Robert Kennedy is the kind of the merger of Maha make America healthy again and Maga make America great again. The two, the two movements. The nascent Maha movement was so fundamental in our, in our sweeping victory. So Tulsi Gabbard will go to work immediately. Pam Bondi's all work. Now here's what's happening is that Pam was supposed to give, I think a, it was kind of confusing, a press briefing. My understanding, I look at my trusty producer here, I think that she's going to do it in another part of the White House. I think she may even be going down to the White House press briefing room. Just so you understand, if you have the Oval Office, so you have the West Wing, you see the portico, you come through from the residence. The only way really to get there is you gotta walk outside on the portico. You've got the Rose Garden right there. And you come into the West Wing, you come into the, you come into the Oval Offices right there to the left. There's a stairs right down there. And that takes you right into the briefing room, which used to be the old pool down when Senator Kennedy was there. And that's where it's very tiny. And now since they have more people in the press, as you know, we've got a couple of three White House correspondents. There's more. The podcast, I think the head of Rumble was there today. Caroline Levitt gave another one of her great press briefings at 1:00 today. Rumble, I think was in the lead chair for the, for the new media, the CEO over there. So, and it's right there. I think that's where Pam's going to go. If it is, we'll go down there. They're in full meltdown because they're in federal courts everywhere. But they also realize that now Pam Bondi with Emil Bovey have really taken control of the Department of Justice and they're blowing people out of there and people are very Very upset. There's a lot of long faces, a lot of tears. But hey, you got to deconstruct the administrative state and you have to destroy the deep state. And the Justice Department is, I don't know, I would say the railhead with the CIA of the deep state. So it has to be done and there's going to be tears, but that's just the way it is. We're going to go to that as soon as we get it. Also, more information, breaking news from our own Natalie Winters. She's tracking all these groups that, remember, it's a combination of these groups, these activist groups and this assault, finding whether it's unions, individuals, anybody can get standing to go in and get tros against, against the doge, the DOGE effort. The budget came out today. I want to make sure I got plenty of Runway on this. I don't think we have time to do it now. So they did this budget exercise and to say that it's kind of confusing. And when I've done restructurings or kind of this type of analytical investment banking work and, you know, I've kind of done this all my professional life, let's say, so the math is pretty straightforward. And if I don't understand it, I will ask a million questions to make sure I understand it. Because always in these due diligence sessions, you have to ask the second and third and fourth. That's the, that is the difference when somebody really gets to understand something and somebody's just there to get it. What we refer to as a lick and a promise. This budget that came out, I think it's a lick and a promise. Now, do we have the Brendan Boyle, they had the Democratic congressman, he said tomorrow and they start at 10:00 for the Budget Committee. The Budget Committee markup that is going to go from 10 o'clock in the morning all day. We are going to dip in and out of that because I'm interested myself in doing my own due diligence. Exactly what in the hell is going on here? Because I am now totally confused. They have tax cuts of $4.5 trillion. And that's essentially the, that's essentially the tax bill of President Trump, the one that was done in 2017. So you have that. That's all in there. And of course, it's got the same tax cuts for certain groups. Let's say that I'm not wildly enthusiastic about. I'm also not sure I'll just be no, no, no, until she comes up. I want to take the breaks until she's actually over the press conference. Until she comes up. Just going to take our normal breaks and do a normal show. We'll jump if we have to. It's 4.5 trillion. I think these are all over 10 years because that's by statute. They say got laid over 10 years. They got it. Okay, let's cut to the White House. Pam Bondi, Attorney General. She's going to be saying a few words now. I think she's in the press briefing room. Let's go. And go.

[Pam Bondi]

So I just came straight back here. So thanks for being patient with us with the delay. We're here today because we have filed charges against the state of New York. We have filed charges against Kathy Hochul. We have filed charges against Letitia James and Mark Schroeder, who is with dmv. This is a new doj and we are taking steps to protect Americans, American citizens and angel moms. Like the mom standing right behind me, who you're going to hear from in a moment. New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens, aliens over American citizens. It stops. It stops today. As you know, we sued Illinois and New York didn't listen. So now you're next. Millions of illegal aliens with violent records have flooded into our communities, bringing violence and deadly drugs with them. With me today, I'm so proud to be joined by Tammy Nobles. Tammy is an angel mom. Her beautiful daughter Kayla, Kayla Hamilton was murdered by an Ms. 13 member in 2022. Kayla had just turned 20 years old, just turned 20 years old. And she was raped and murdered by someone who should not have been in our country. Yet he was released, flown to Maryland where he committed this violent murder. I just want you to hear from, want you to hear from Tammy. Tammy represents not only herself and her family, but all of the great angel moms around this country who have suffered because of what the Biden administration did. And it is over.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Thank you for having me here today and being able to share Kayla's story. Her murderer was able to come across the border knowing that he was flagged as an Ms. 13 gang member. And he had a criminal record in 2020 in El Salvador for illicit gang activity. He came over as an unoccupied alien child saying that he was afraid of gang activity in his country. Health and Human Services called him a nice boy and he showed age appropriate behavior that fell so wrong when he murdered my daughter. He ended up in Maryland where he was able to rent a room in the same mobile home as her. We thought it was a legit company that were renting out these rooms. But it turned out that it was another illegal immigrant who owned these mobile homes. And he knew Walter from El Salvador. He knew him and allowed him to rent a room with my child. Kayla just turned 20 years old three days before she was murdered. Her murderer was only living there for five days before he viciously strangled her, raped her, and left her on the floor like trash and robbed her of six dollars. I have been sharing her story for over two and a half years to bring change, because this should have not have ever happened to Kayla and it shouldn't be happening to other families being hurt by the border. Homeland Security did not do their jobs. They did not check his background. You know, they did say that he was processed. So if they processed him, they knew that he was a gang member and still allowed him here. Health and Human Services did not verify the sponsor and allow him to go with a sponsor that they don't even know if it was his cousin or his aunt. And he was able to leave the sponsor's house to go live wherever, to go wherever he wanted. And I am going to continue sharing Kayla's story to help save others and to bring awareness of what was happening under the Biden Harris administration. I'm so thankful for Pam having me here today, and I'm so thankful for the opportunities I got from Trump and any other platform, you know, people who allowed me to share her story, because this is going to end. No other parents should suffer by having their child murdered by somebody that shouldn't have be. That shouldn't be here. And I'm gonna continue, you know, sharing it. And for Kayla, you know, and also for others. Thank you.

[Pam Bondi]

And it's my understanding that he also admitted to other murders, correct? Multiple murders.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

He wrote a letter and he was intercepted in jail, that he committed four murders and two rapes.

[Pam Bondi]

And that's who we were letting walk into our country. And that's why President Trump has directed this to stop. And if you don't comply with federal law, we will hold you accountable. We did it to Illinois. Strike one. Strike two is New York. And if you are a state not complying with federal law, you're next. Get ready. And the great men and women of law enforcement are standing behind me today. We have FBI, defa, ATF agents. They put their lives on the line every single day to protect us. And what New York has, they have green light laws, meaning they're giving a green light to any illegal alien in New York, where law enforcement officers cannot check their identity. If they pull them over. Law enforcement officers do not have access to their background. And if these great men and women pull over someone and don't have access to their background, they have no idea who they're dealing with. And it puts their lives on the line every single day. Violent criminals, gang members, drug traffickers, human smugglers will no longer terrorize the American people. And that is why we are here today. You will be held accountable if you do not follow federal law. It's over. It ends. And we're coming after you. Questions? We have time for a few questions. David, spotted the FOX News.

[David]

Madam Attorney General, thank you and welcome to the Justice Department.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Thank you.

[David]

I have a quick on topic and a quick off topic on topic in your executive order, in your orders on the first day you were here, you talked about working with the Justice Department or these sanctuary cities, as you say, will be punished. Today you're putting people on notice. Right now we're just lawsuits. Is this going to go further? What kind of punishment are we talking about? Is there any grounds to charge individuals, charged politicians? How far is this going to go?

[Pam Bondi]

Well, we're going to see what they do next, David. We have sued them all. We personally sued the governor, the attorney general, Letitia James and Mark Schroeder with DMV because he has the green light laws. So what they have to do, they have to start complying with federal law. If they don't, we're going to appeal it and we will win. They have to comply with federal law. Did you have a second question?

[David]

I did a second off topic question in this regard to the judiciary today, Elon Musk, who has enormous influence in the Trump administration, posted on X. There needs to be an immediate wave of judicial impeachments, not just one. As the attorney general of the United States, how do you respond to that? Shouldn't the process work out in the courts before we talk about judicial impeachments? I mean, these are just TROs now at this time. Shouldn't these just play out?

[Pam Bondi]

Yeah. I haven't seen Elon Musk tweet. He is a friend of mine. He is a great man. I think he's very frustrated with what's happening in our federal government. You know, at USAID alone, they're giving out billions of dollars, billions of dollars that should not be distributed. We're going to back him up. You know, we work our whole lives in this country and we all pay taxes in this country. And for people, people to find out that $2 million is going to Guatemala for Sex changes is outrageous. And we're going to back up Elon Musk every way we can. That includes lawsuits against these people who are doing that. And we will be successful.

[David]

Do you have concerns about judicial impeachment?

[Pam Bondi]

That's not going to happen. Now. We're going to look at everything. We're going to follow the law right now. We're going to follow the process. These are federal judges with lifetime appointments, but they will be struck down ultimately by the Supreme Court of the United States if the appellate courts don't follow the law as well. Hi. I also have an on topic and an off topic. First of all, can you just briefly walk us through what the legal claims are you're making in this lawsuit? Yeah, absolutely. So the green light laws are that. This is what the green light law says. It's a green light to illegal immigration, which says they can comply. That law is unconstitutional. They can't do that. And what they've done is they have a tip off provision that requires New York's DMV commissioner to promptly inform any illegal alien when a federal immigration agency has requested their information. So think about the men and women in law enforcement behind me. That's basically that. That's not basic. It's tipping off an illegal alien and it's unconstitutional. And that's why we filed this lawsuit. And that's why we charge Mark Schroeder, too, because he runs dmd. Oh, I'm sorry, you had a second question. My off topic question. I wanted to ask about Mayor Adam, Mayor Eric Adam's case. As of at least a few moments ago, SDNY still has not dropped that case. Have you or other DOJ leadership spoken to the Acting U.S. attorney in SDNY since the memo was sent earlier this week? And what will you do if she refuses to drop the case? I have not spoken to her. I know our acting dag, Emil Bove has spoken to her and Chad Meisel may have spoken to her. But that case should be dropped. It was done at the direct directive of aml.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So.

[Pam Bondi]

So that case should be dropped. I did not know that it had not been dropped yet, but I will certainly look into that. Hi, how are you? Tom Holman suggested this week that someone.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

From within the FBI may be leaking.

[Pam Bondi]

Information about the ICE raids and that such could be putting officers lives at risk. Has the DOJ gotten any closer to determining if these leaks are coming from within the FBI? And what will the consequences be if they can identify the leakers from the FBI? Excuse me. Well, first, I can't Talk about anything that is ongoing and that is ongoing. And it's really for the similar reasons what I said earlier, the great men and women in law enforcement standing behind me today, they deserve, they must be protected. And anytime anyone leaks or tips off anything regarding a pending investigation that jeopardizes lives, you're telling a bad guy what's about to happen. It could jeopardize the lives of all the men and women in law enforcement. We will not stand for it. We will find you. We're going to investigate it, no matter what agency it came from. We don't know for certain. We have an open investigation, so I can't talk about it in detail, but we will do everything in our power to hold you accountable. And it is a crime, and you will be prosecuted when we find you. Okay, it's time for one more. Madam Attorney General, thank you so much for your time. I was also interested in hearing specifically what the interactions have been like with Mayor Adams. And I know he has a little bit of a different tone than some of the other Democrats out of the Empire State. And then also Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, before President Trump went back into office, he had issued some words about a potential standoff and then walked that back. So I was curious to see what things have been like out of New York City and Denver officials. Yeah, well, we're hoping that in New York, Mayor Adams is going to cooperate with us with the sanctuary cities and the illegal aliens. And has the mayor in Colorado been cooperating, do we know? I believe he might have now. Yeah. I believe Colorado now cooperating. That's what we want. We don't want to sue you. We don't want to prosecute people. We want people to comply with the law. This is very simple. An MS.13 member murdered her daughter. That's happening throughout this country. We have one angel mom is too many. And we have angel moms throughout this country who should not be going through this, comply with the law. You. This is the last thing we want to be doing. We want to be out there, all of us fighting violent crime, yet we're fighting illegal aliens. And that ends. And it's going to end today. That's all we have time for, guys.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Pam Bondi]

Thank you. Thank you all.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Tulsi Gabbard]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Keep the camera. Oh, man. Aztec. Incredible. Offense. Offense, Offense. Action. Action, action. Particularly folks have been on, you know, come coming to the show for the five years we've been on and had known us before then over at Breitbart in New Pam. Pam came in and worked on the 2016 campaign. Pam, you know Matt Gaetz, Kayleigh McEnany, that crowd down those young turks down in Florida, that delivered Florida with a person who ran Florida for us, Susie Wiles. What's fascinating about this business, you see these people and Gates was just a guy running for Congress at the time. Kaylee was working down there for us. Pam was working down there for us as a. Not a paid, she was a volunteer but incredible. One of the people to step forward and to know her and to see her right there and to see her in full spectrum dominance, I mean, walks right in there, takes charge. Seeing Caroline Levitt and Pam Bondi in the years we've known him and see how they've grown professionally and how they're not going to take any nonsense. These women are rock hard when it comes to MAGA and they're not putting up with any nonsense. Boom. This is the objective, this is what's going to happen. This is where we're going. It's just incredible. Now can we play. I don't want to say serendipity, but I did call yesterday outside the Manhattan courtroom. What did I call for? For Pam Bondi to take immediate action in New York City. And what did Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of these United States say today? She's taken action in New York City. I think she actually mentioned Bragg and Letitia James. It's a festering. Maybe we played at the end of the break. Just hold it for right now. Here's my point. The New York City is the financial capital of the world. Obviously it's the financial capital of the United States. Washington's the political capital. But we're like Washington's the home office for the Federal Reserve and the Treasury. You get the beautiful buildings, you got all the senior guys, the operations themselves, the engine room of the American economy. And really where commerce, trade and finance take place, they kind of combine is in New York City. That's why at the beginning it was a port. It was our greatest port up until recently. I mean, the ports have been kind of moved out, you know, onto the outside of Manhattan and down to Perth Amboy and places in New Jersey. But up to the 1950s, 60s, early 70s, New York was a bustling port. Commerce, trade and finance, it all comes through there under the jurisdiction, under the jurisdiction of the Attorney General of the State of New York and the district Attorney for Manhattan. This is what they've turned Manhattan into, a total sanctuary city. Well, the whole thing, all of New York, including the boroughs. And they're defiant When Adams was not defiant, when Adams said, hey, I can't be a sanctuary city anymore. I think they've got 47,000, if memory serves me correctly, I think 47,000 illegal aliens. And it's been documented for months and months and months about the Roosevelt Hotel. Roosevelt Hotel is right there on Madison Avenue. Right. If you know, remember where Grand Central Station is, it's like a block, a couple blocks up from Grand Central right there in Madison Avenue. And you can't walk by it. It's a. It's totally third World and the rooms are expensive. Now, I realize Pakistan may have, I think, bought the hotel, but we've cut this deal. We're paying relatively premium rates. They were told to stop and I think the FEMA executive continue to do it. And it was outed by Doge. I think yesterday Elon was talking about. The guys at Doge were talking about. They're defiant. They're defiant. And you've got to. Because their last piece of resistance is going to be that it's New York City. It's going to be Lawfare with Tish, James and Bragg feeling they got Trump once. This is why Pam Bondi's on offense. Pam Bondi is going to dare them to block federal officials trying to come in and remove foreign national, illegal alien criminals. This is the first shot across about Pam Bondi's moving out smartly. They're not going to just sit there and let New York do what it wants to do. No, you're going to comply. And the first thing you're going to comply with is the deportations of these folks.

[Steve Bannon]

And we're going to start with the bad guys.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We're not going to end with that. Everybody's got to go. All the 10 million that came here during, during Biden and Pam Bondi in a throwdown right there in the White House after with this. What I love about it, she swears in Tulsi Gabbard, another hammer up in the Oval, and then she walks down to the press briefing room and boom, brings up an angel Mom. Let's get it on. Short break.

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Okay.

[Natalie Winters]

See this headline right here? Trump causes Constitutional crisis. Trump causes Constitutional Crisis. Showdown Emerges of the limits of his power.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let me be blunt.

[Natalie Winters]

This is a lesson here. The existential threat to President Trump's administration. Administration is not in federal court. What President Trump is doing is constitutional. The appellate courts will say that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The Supreme Court will say that the.

[Natalie Winters]

Existential threat to President Trump's administration, and I mean Doge, Elon Musk, Secretary Treasury Besant, Russ Vogt, Stephen Miller, all of his people, the Existential threat is right here in this city. It is the queen of lawfare, Letitia James. Right now, Soros has a DA that's running unopposed. He can call a grand jury at any time. He can set up criminal charges on the most bogus efforts. Letitia James runs this deal. She's got a pliant media right here, pliant left wing media. She's got a jury pool of only left wing radicals in the Upper west side of this city. And she's got the judges, she's got all of it. And I'm Hang on, I'm calling on right now the Attorney General, Pam Bonney, to begin an immediate criminal investigation into Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, all of what they did to President Trump. President Trump on his true social day laid it out once again. The existential threat to his administration is this queen of lawfare, Letitia James, and how she has, and how she has absolutely total control. And Doge and Elon Musk and Scott Bessen and all of them ought to be worried about this out of control city. Thank you very much.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Are you calling on an investigation to brag because of the. Thank you, thank you right there. That was my call yesterday. And she started today by sanctuary cities. Start there, start in sanctuary cities. But go break up the rat's nest. This is Soros based. They've got to think about in the financial capital of the world. They have total and complete legal control over the corporations. If you're domiciled there, if you live there. But more importantly, just so you pass through and stay there, they will claim, they will claim any kind of broad mandate against you. They're coming after President Trump. Remember, Letitia James and Bragg made up the bizarro legal theory that got President Trump has 32 felonies. They have a compliant media. They have a jury pool of these radicals in the Upper west side. They have the ability to impanel grand juries. They're all powerful. They're all, they have the judges, they have radical judges, federal judges. Yes. Natalie's done a great job of outing some of these and that's a big deal. I believe all that's constitutional that is going to slow Trump. It's not going to defeat him. What we're talking about now is not defeat, but I mean, really slow down. That's why PAM BONDI Today, 24 hours after that, said, hey, guess what? We're going to start in New York City. He'd done Chicago, but she was naming out government officials. They can't sit there and claim this and claim sanctuary city status and block federal officers from performing their duty. Particularly now they need tons of cash because they're saying they're broke and they need this for the illegal alien invaders. I've gone through that. I've gone. I've taken a first cut through this budget. It is, let's say they did not turn in their best homework. Okay. It's kind of a joke. Actually. It's not kind of a joke. It's a total joke. It's a sick joke. We'll get to that in a second. And I don't know who they think they're fooling. Inflation was up today. Just is. That's just a demonstrable fact. And the bond market is going to respond. And the bond market gets a vote here. You can't mess around with this. This has to be precision. What have I called beginning precision engineering? And what you're seeing now coming out of Capitol Hill is no process, but also no context and no content. I think in these lawsuits, one thing I would argue is that, hey, the, the legislative branch is unable to actually have a process to control spending. And there's nothing in the Constitution that says that we have to have deficits in perpetuity. Hell, the Federal Reserve's not even in the Constitution. That's a whole nother question. Why the hell do we even need it? You couldn't be printing this money if you didn't have it. And this has to be all thought through in this. But the budget today. I'll get into the. Break it down. It's just, it's a sick joke. The sick joke, particularly about the lack of political will of trying to cut spending. This is why dozers run around. And the other thing is, how do you put this out? Think about this. A ten year budget. I'm not making this up. You're an adult. Wouldn't you like being treated like an adult? Do you like being treated? Kids, they think this is the old Fox days. And you just sat there with your mouth open and a channel changer and you were spoon fed everything. The Murdochs want to spoon feed you. He just believed it. No, those days are over. So they do a 10 year budget and they have to do it because it's statutory. You got to do 10 years. Fine, fine. That's okay. Not that that's the only thing you have to do because we're in a financial crisis. All we care about is the fiscal year we're in. That would be 25 and fiscal year 26. Give me two years. So they give this to you and it's oh, 1.5 trillion. That's a headline. $1.5 trillion in cuts. It's over 10 years. That would be 150 if you just average. It's $150 billion. Now, you haven't got to those averages, but it's nothing in the out, nothing in the down front years. I don't think it's anything in 25. The other question I've got is how can we do this logically and put all this effort and have these meetings and appropriations and they're going to have this markup tomorrow, this important markup, and think about voting this. I thought Doge was cutting a trillion dollars a year. I realize that's going to take me a while to get there. I got that. But it's still hundreds of billions. That's not me saying that. That's him and the President from the Oval Office. Hundreds of billions of waste, fraud and abuse. You got stuff going, corruption to and fro. And they're putting out some examples that the American people have their back and saying, hell yeah, I don't want that. That's ridonkulous. That's nowhere in there. You have 1.5 trillion over 10 years. That's $150 billion a year. Let me put this in perspective, ladies and gentlemen. The Congressional Budget Office, which does a parallel set of numbers, is telling you that the gap between the spending of the federal government and the revenue of the federal government is a minimum of $2 trillion per year. So if you're at 150 billion, you're less than 10%, kind of less than 10%. If you cut that. And the out years will never be cut. You know that. I can go back and show you. It's like when we were doing Afghanistan, I said, hey, I want these periods go back. Because every time they give. We've been there 20 years and they give this briefing every year and every year they give the briefing, it's a different set of people. And they all sit there. The third year is like nirvana. Third year, we killed all the bad guys. Democracy blooms. They're all Jeffersonian Democrats, right? They're all teaching people the Declaration of Independence. They're all reciting the Gettysburg address. In the third year, you just have a series of third, you know, 20 years of presentations and you never get past the first year where it's a total debacle. You're spending $25 billion. They hate you, they're burning the flag, they're trying to, you know, it's. Was it blue on green or green on blue? I forget. You know, assassinations never quite works out. We're in a crisis, and people on Capitol Hill got to stop running around like high school and think the student body's got to have its annual budget because we got to get the car wash. We got to have the car wash. And who's going to put on the school play? Polly Pockets, you in charge of Polly Pockets, you in charge of the school play this year, right? Who's doing the bake sale? Who's helping the moms with the bake sale? Folks, you're driving the nation into an abyss it will never recover from. When Rogoff wrote the book at Harvard, this time it's completely different. I think is the title. Those are what finance ministers were saying, once your total debt goes over, your GDP over 100%. I think it's done it once before in history, and that was during a thing called World War II, where we were the arsenal of democracy and Rosie the riveter banging out B17s out there in Wichita. Right? You had to have the flexibility in your balance sheet to do something like this. We ain't got that today. If there being a real emergency, because we're spending and what are we spending on? I keep asking, look around. Where's the 37 trillion? Do you see it in your neighborhood? Do you see wonderful, beautiful cities? Do you see modern, incredible airports? Do you see just amazing highways? Do you see when you take the Acela, when you take the train from Washington D.C. to New York City, when you take it from the political capital of the most powerful nation on earth? A train line, by the way, it's been around since, I think, 1840. Lincoln went on it. All of them went on it. You take that train line from Union Station in Washington, the nation's capital, the political capital, the most powerful nation in the history of the earth, and you take said train up to New York City, the financial capital of the world and the financial capital of the most powerful nation in the history of the earth. You tell me what you see on that train ride. It's not the best, okay? You're not going through Shenandoah, Shenandoah Valley. It's not Napa. You don't feel like, wow, this is amazing. It's pretty crappy. You compare that when you go to Japan or China or these other places, and I realize they got the hint of land, particularly in China, that's horrible. But what they're showing you, at least in the Big show. You take Shanghai to Beijing or take Shanghai as one of the cities in the south. Where did your 36 trillion to go that you're adding a trillion dollars? Where's the money gone? Where's it gone? Where'd it go? Where's the six and a half trillion every year?

[Natalie Winters]

Where's it go?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We see Elon. This is why if you're going to be that pathetic and the Democrats you did this for years. You hid this for years. You're getting your comeuppance. That's why they hate it. Elon's going to be in your girl 19 year old guys. What is his name?

[Steve Bannon]

Big balls.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Big balls going to be running around plugging it, plugging his computer in, playing a few video games and you know blowing up a couple of agencies. And you guys are you know getting all worried why Rick Renell is going over and storming the Kennedy Center. This is a full takeover of the seize the institutions from by the Visigoths. But you put out a product today like that budget. It's just not even serious. It's like what am I, what are we doing here? The ten year and the guy thing. Let's be honest, it's all a thing to get the tax cuts. Okay, I gave it away. I gave it away. I gave it away. I'm a big believer in these tax cuts as I agree with Besant. The last chance for a supply side tax cut. Now my idea of the tax cuts and I don't think in that 4.5 trillion I gotta find I'm not feeling in those 10 years because that other number is 4 trillion before I'm not feeling the no tax on Social Security must be in there somewhere. It's going to be like a Christmas going to be like a package down. You know one of those ones underneath the tree at the very end. That's like the best gift of all. We're going to have to have some very tough conversations. It's like a company going bankrupt or family going bankrupt. Every day that you are inexorably drawn into the pit of financial distress. It gets worse and worse and worse. And now we have a professional class that are supposed to be fiduciaries. They're lying to you and treating you like a tool. And guess what? You may be a lot of things but you ain't no tool. You have proven that over the last five years. You got a little bite to you and we may have to use that bite. Number one, just let's be treated like adults. Don't Give me a ten year budget. Give me the two year budget. Oh, I'm gonna give you a big surprise. I'm gonna give you a surprise. Here's a surprise. There's no cuts this year. What they intend to do is Biden's number. Think about that. Biden's number, Pelosi's number. Two trillion dollar deficit and not a penny a doge out of there. How can you be more up in your grill than that? Are you prepared to accept that? I'm not prepared to accept that. I'm just not. I'm. I'm not. I can't. It's not my, it's not my. It's not in my psychological structure to give that permission. My permission structure does not allow that. It's not right. And it's leading us to a dark, dark, dark place. Short break.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, breaking. We have breaking news all over. Israel has informed Hamas via Egypt and Qatar that the hostage ceasefire agreement will continue if the terror group releases three more hostages on Saturday. Hey, I thought the guy in the Oval Office said, give them all up or we're unleash the dogs of war. But maybe Israel had a chat with them afterwards. Don't know. Just reporting. They're also having pretty tough conversations. Pete Hegseth dropped a big bomb over in Ukraine. He said, hey, protection of Europe is no longer like a number one priority for the United States. You Guys got to kind of figure it out on your own. We're around and we're an ally, but, you know, we're not underwriting your security anymore. The elites who've been leeching off us for generations are in panic. And here's why. You know, President Trump, it's all connected. President Trump told him a couple of weeks ago, hey, look, I've been thinking about this. I look at the numbers and I think actually it's 5%, not, not, not 2%, which you're not meeting. It's 5% of your GDP for defense. If they did 5%, they wouldn't have the free health care. They wouldn't have the, you know, six week vacations in August, they wouldn't have the early retirement at 50. All the things you have here in the United States. You know, you retire at 50 with full pension, you have full health care with the best providers in the world. And of course, you get six to eight weeks off in the summer fully paid. Not, no, no, you do not. But you underwrite the people that have that, the elites that have that, and actually dole it out in Europe so they can stay in control. I think that day's over. Pete Hexith dropped a dime on him. About time. Because they're not good at listening. Natalie G. Winters joins us. Natalie, the president's being besieged on every side now. We're going on offense again, particularly on legal. They, Pam Bondi put one across the bow of Letitia James and Alvin Bragg, starting with sanctuary cities. And hey, if you're breaking the law, she told him, I, Pam Bondi will deal with it. I think she's going to find a lot more about what they're doing breaking the law up there. But it's good that she, you know, gave an introduction on the illegal alien criminal front. You've got every group on the left now and here's the grassroots on this front. They're focus grouping this, they're polling, they're looking for any angle into this. And the groups are all over it. Radical judges are all over it. They're running around trying to go to every federal court in the land. The media's trying to pick themself up and dust themself off. It's all a little feckless and hapless right now, but they're trying to get a rally point. Natalie, winners, what do you got for us?

[Tom Holman]

Sure, it's an opening bid, but I'll definitely take it. But I think this sort of signals the Trump administration's broader efforts to really double, if not triple down on all things immigration and of course, the mass deportations. It's just been breaking over at the Washington Post that two of the top ICE officials, particularly the buried lead there and the enforcement wing, have been let go because the Trump are reassigned, rather because the Trump administration, administration didn't think that they were kind of up to par in terms of the numbers of deportees and just executing the various deportation raids. But I also think to that moment, that press conference that we were watching there was a very important question which I think sort of gets to the heart of all of this, right? How they are sort of fomenting their resistance. And they asked about the supposed FBI leak that potentially compromised a Los Angeles area ICE raid. That was a story that we had sort of discussed last Saturday on War Room was broke, broken in the L A Times. They were believing that it had sort of come from an FBI source. Christine Noem had then sort of carried on, said that over the weekend, Tom Holman confirming that earlier today, and of course, Pam Bondi then signaling that there should be repercussions and ramifications for any FBI officials who sort of worked against basically conspiring against President Trump and ICE officials to carry out these raids. But I think that that sort of gets to the core of it, right? You're talking about opposition, whether it's coming from the embeds, as we, I think properly refer to these bureaucrats as, or if it's coming from the media or the courts.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But I think, but Natalie, hang on. This is so mind blowing. And we've been, it's been put in our face of how, you know, how sacred the FBI is. I just want to make sure the audience understands this Homan is setting. And these are not raids or not operations, as they call them, to maybe take the families back home and put them on a plane or do, you know, with. And eventually you're going to have to get there. They're going after kind of the bad hombres, you heard MSM 13 in New York. But they're going after the baddest of the bad hombres right now as they kind of triage this thing, the FBI. And they had a big raid planned for L A, as you know, is A is a one of the railheads of illegal, you know, LA county, both as a way station and as a destination. The FBI people in the FBI leaked it that a raid was coming, thus putting ICE agents in harm's way. And I think leading Homan at the last minute to come to a tactical decision to either call off all of it or at least a significant part of it. Is that correct?

[Tom Holman]

Yeah, that's absolutely correct. And by the way, it was just, I think about one day before Chuck Schumer launched his whole Senate whistleblower portal. And of course, the idea of a whistleblower being sort of, I think, very strong sentiment among the resistance type organizations. They have very strong legal pipelines for all these kind of civil servants or FBI agents. Pick your agency to sort of become their very own version of an activist. And I think that this story in particular proves why we need Cash Patel but remember that there was a buried lead, too, in that story. There was a comment sort of off the record from someone who I believe is a former ICE official saying that, well, yeah, there's definitely going to be some boots on the ground to take issue with the orders of President Trump. So they're going to find a way to resist however they choose. And that is the issue, right? That is what President Trump is trying to stop with his deconstruction of the administrative state. So all of this then goes back to the judges, what they're doing with trying to block him from doing the federal spending freezes. And just I think it's the unitary theory of the executive, right? The ability that President Trump should be able to have. Imagine this loyal people working for him, not people who are going to leak and dox information that's going to lead to ICE agents getting killed.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It's unbelievable. But you know, Natalie, this is what happens when you come in and do these turnarounds. You see what the dry rod is now. Remember MSNBC and the New York Times, the Washington Post? Washington. They're the defenders of the institutionalists. These institutions need to be refurbished, they need to be renewed, they need to be refer. Reformed. Some of them need to be purged and some need to be taken down brick by brick. The FBI would be very high on the brick by brick list. You're seeing it every day. Look at the Doge guys. Every day they're coming up with something not one penny of that is in this budget. What are we doing? Are we. Is this all performance art? We're going to go do some big performance, a budget draft. We're going to have a budget markup tomorrow. What are we marking up? It's all fantasy. We don't have time for fantasy. Short commercial break Natalie on the other side, Bensman. Bensman's getting the signal more than ever. The hammer is about to be dropped on the Mexican drug cartels all next in the War Room.

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