Episode 4267: History In The Making Because Of MAGA; Senate Vote To Confirm RFK. JR

Summary

Summary of Episode 4267: "History In The Making Because Of MAGA; Senate Vote To Confirm RFK. JR"

Released on February 13, 2025, "Bannon's War Room" hosted by Stephen K. Bannon delivers a comprehensive analysis of current political dynamics, government funding challenges, and significant Senate confirmations. This episode delves into the imminent threat of a government shutdown, the strategic maneuvers within Congress, and the broader implications for the MAGA movement.

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1. Imminent Government Shutdown Concerns

Representative Moskovitz opens the discussion expressing grave concerns about a potential government shutdown slated for March 14th. He criticizes the Speaker for not presenting the 12 individual spending bills required to fund the government effectively. Moskovitz emphasizes the bipartisan impact of such a shutdown, stating:

"We know the American people will lose." (00:00)

He highlights the Republican commitment to funding the government through individual bills rather than Continuing Resolutions (CR), arguing that DOGE's efforts to uncover fraud and waste make CR an untenable option. Moskovitz calls for immediate action to prevent the shutdown:

"We gotta get back to the process of individual spending bills. If we don't, then the speaker will be the one who will have closed the government for the American people." (02:28)

2. Steve Bannon on Government Funding and DOGE

Steve Bannon engages with Moskovitz's concerns, advocating for a clean Continuing Resolution to maintain government operations temporarily. He criticizes long-term budget bills, asserting the need to address the current financial crisis urgently. Bannon remarks:

"We are in a financial crisis. It's a turnaround. The only thing that matters is the here and now." (02:28)

He underscores DOGE's role in identifying fraud and waste within federal spending, suggesting that merging DOGE processes with appropriations is essential for transparency and efficiency.

3. Senate Vote to Confirm Cash Patel

The episode transitions to the Senate's pivotal vote to confirm Cash Patel as the next FBI Director. A Senator Peter Welch delivers a robust statement opposing the Trump administration's actions, citing numerous constitutional violations. Welch outlines his reasons for voting against Patel's confirmation:

"The president is showing maximum contempt for core constitutional values, including, most importantly, the separation of powers." (06:17)

He details actions by the administration that he views as unlawful, including freezing federal spending and threatening to revoke birthright citizenship. Welch firmly states his stance:

"I cannot vote for a person who signed on to that agenda." (06:23)

4. Senator Welch's Critique of the Trump Administration

Welch's statement serves as a focal point of criticism against the current administration, accusing President Trump of undermining constitutional norms and the separation of powers. He argues that the administration's disregard for judicial mandates and legislative authority poses a significant threat to democratic institutions. Welch emphasizes the necessity for Senators to uphold constitutional boundaries:

"It is so essential to each of us, as a US Senator, to make our own judgments about whether the manner in which power is being used on the executive branch is a threat to the power of the legislative branch." (15:09)

5. Steve Bannon's Reaction to Welch's Remarks

Responding to Welch's critique, Steve Bannon defends the MAGA movement and the legitimacy of the 2020 election outcomes. He positions Welch's opposition as a reflection of the broader struggle between populist movements and established political elites. Bannon asserts:

"This vote was 12 to 10. At the same time, Bobby Kennedy, you're living. This is living history, the show now." (15:09)

He frames the Senate confirmation as a historical moment influenced by grassroots activism and emphasizes the importance of agency in shaping political outcomes.

6. Geopolitical Implications: Ukraine and NATO

The discussion shifts to international relations, focusing on Ukraine's geopolitical situation and NATO's role. Senator Peter Welch elaborates on President Trump's decision to engage directly with Vladimir Putin, bypassing previous diplomatic channels. He critiques Europe's defense spending and the reliability of NATO allies, highlighting:

"If the European capitals tried to increase their defense spending to 5%, there would be revolutions across Europe, no doubt whatsoever." (38:00)

Welch contends that Europe's dependency on the U.S. for defense has been detrimental and argues for a reassessment of security guarantees to prevent further erosion of sovereignty.

7. Conclusion: The Path Forward

Steve Bannon concludes the episode by reiterating the significance of the Senate vote and the ongoing political realignment influenced by the MAGA movement. He encourages listeners to stay informed and engaged, emphasizing the role of grassroots efforts in shaping legislative outcomes:

"That today happens in the Oval Office and happens because of you." (26:45)

Bannon also previews upcoming events and discussions, highlighting the importance of continued activism and strategic communication to maintain momentum within the movement.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "We know the American people will lose." – Representative Moskovitz (00:00)
• "We gotta get back to the process of individual spending bills. If we don't, then the speaker will be the one who will have closed the government for the American people." – Representative Moskovitz (02:28)
• "The president is showing maximum contempt for core constitutional values, including, most importantly, the separation of powers." – Senator Peter Welch (06:17)
• "It is so essential to each of us, as a US Senator, to make our own judgments about whether the manner in which power is being used on the executive branch is a threat to the power of the legislative branch." – Senator Peter Welch (15:09)
• "This vote was 12 to 10. At the same time, Bobby Kennedy, you're living. This is living history, the show now." – Steve Bannon (15:09)
• "If the European capitals tried to increase their defense spending to 5%, there would be revolutions across Europe, no doubt whatsoever." – Senator Peter Welch (38:00)
• "That today happens in the Oval Office and happens because of you." – Steve Bannon (26:45)

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Key Takeaways:

• Government Funding Crisis: Urgent need to pass 12 individual spending bills to prevent a government shutdown, as Continuing Resolutions are deemed unfeasible due to identified fraud and waste.

• Senate Confirmation of Cash Patel: A deeply divided Senate vote reflects the ongoing struggle between the MAGA movement and its opponents within Congress.

• Constitutional Concerns: Senator Welch highlights potential threats to constitutional norms posed by the Trump administration, particularly concerning the separation of powers.

• Geopolitical Strategy: Discussions on Europe's defense spending and NATO's future underline the shifting dynamics in international relations and America's role as a global power.

• Grassroots Influence: Emphasis on the power of grassroots activism in shaping legislative outcomes and resisting entrenched political elites.

This episode of "Bannon's War Room" encapsulates critical moments in American politics, highlighting the intersection of domestic governance challenges and international geopolitical strategies. Through incisive commentary and strategic analysis, Stephen K. Bannon and his guests provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the forces shaping history in the making.

Transcript

[Representative Moskovitz]

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today because I am deeply concerned that we are headed towards a government shutdown, which is on March 14th. And it's not about whether Democrats or Republicans would win politically because we know the American people will lose. But let me tell you why I'm deeply concerned that we are headed to a government shutdown on March 14. I'm worried because the speaker has not brought the 12 individual spending bills the way we should fund the government. In fact, the promise that was made by my Republican colleagues on how we would fund the government, Republicans have made the argument that the last election was about the status quo disappearing. It can't exist. People are fed up. They created Doge, right? Doge, which is going through the federal government and finding fraud, waste and abuse. So they say. So they claim. But if that's true, Mr. Speaker, if Elon Musk and Doge has found all this fraud and waste and abuse, hundreds of billions of dollars, as they claim, well, then, Mr. Speaker, we can't fund the government by CR anymore because the CR would refund all of that waste, fraud and abuse that Doge has found. Which means the only way to fund the government is to fund it by individual spending bills. But we're running out of time, Mr. Speaker. We have a month before the government shuts down. We gotta get back to the process of individual spending bills. If we don't. If we don't, then the speaker will be the one who will have closed the government for the American people. And so I'm concerned. I'm here to work with the speaker on the 12 individual spending bills. Democrats are at the table to. To do that. But we have to be honest. We can't tell the American people we're for reducing fraud, waste and abuse. We're for government efficiency. Look at all these things we have found and then say, but we're going to refund them all with a clean CR. And so, Mr. Speaker, I rise to say, I'm here. I'm willing to stay weekends. I'm willing to work for the next month so that we can fund the government appropriately by the 12 individual spending bills, a promise that my Republican colleagues made. But the Speaker's got to start getting that train moving, otherwise he will close the government.

[Steve Bannon]

Can we go on the Hill today? They had Johnson open to. And I don't think I got it to you. But if we can get Johnson's open to a. A clean CR for the rest of the year, so. And we'll dip back into this budget hearing. Jody Arrington has been probably one of the guys up there trying to cut the budget most. But they do these 10 year bills and one Congress can't bind another. They do these 10 year bills. It's really a theoretical exercise. We're in a financial crisis. It's a turnaround. In a turnaround. The only thing that matters is the here and now. I need to know what action we're taking today. What did Churchill put on the top of the top of the memo? Every day they would send him stuff, do this, do that, Ba Bing. I got this thing. He do action this day, action this day, action this day. Take action on it. You have DOGE running around and look, it is a blunt force instrument and you can already tell the blunt force trauma. Now I would like to codify some of this and see, because you have things coming out and like usaid, people have worked on that for years. It's great. It's being exposed now. It should have been exposed to all these committees. And remember, we ran these committees under Paul Ryan. We ran these committees under, under Kevin McCarthy before McCarthy was turfed out. We lost those fights. The Republicans are the ones that helped cover it up. Democrat money laundering operations, it's all over the place. The cash is all over the place. But like I have said on this show since, I don't know, December, when DOGE was kind of announced, you have to merge the processes. And I recommended that DOGE be a part of omb. Guess what? It's part of omb. Office of Management Budget is what works through and has to manage what the Appropriations Committee comes out with. But Russ Fot and those guys are deep into the details programmatically, what you have to do. And I said this, you had to merge the processes, the DOGE process with the appropriations process. That's Moskovitz. His staff is obviously watching the show. Fine, I love it. I'd love to have a Democrat up there saying it now. He's trying to do it for political points, but that's fine, that's okay. He laid out the Maga case. He laid out what we fought McCarthy about in January of 2023. Remember that single subject, appropriations bills? Why do we fight so hard for that? Because theoretically, that's where you see in USAID all the nonsense, all the crap. You can argue that at a subcommittee level, even before you go up to a committee level. It's about the process. They say, oh, they're not institutionalists. They want to burn it to the ground. No, we actually are the ones that got into the system. To work the system. But since the system's protected and Holly just told you, you think Hawley's job's a popular job in the senate? The guy gets grief every day. That's one of the reasons I like having him on here. You hear it all the time. Holly's out in the limb. Holly's on an island because he's trying to stand up for working class people in this country. They're not. You don't. You don't come. They're not allowed to. Out. Cash. Vote's about to start right now. Let's go. Let's go to. Let's go to. I'll continue this rant after our cash flow. Let's go. Just to put in a box. You know, we're trying to do this in live television. Let's put in a box right there. So cash. This. This is the committee level. Are they talk? If they talk, let me know. We'll go to it. Vote of 12 to 10. The nomination will be favorably reported to the floor. Do you want to speak?

[Senator Peter Welch]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Please do now. And will some. I gotta go vote.

[Senator Peter Welch]

Will some.

[Steve Bannon]

Senator on my side stay.

[Ben Harnwell]

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe that this country, in this Congress, is in the midst of what has been a slow moving but rapidly accelerating constitutional crisis. It began Most visibly on January 6th of 2021, when the two norms of this republic, the peaceful transfer of power and the renunciation of violence, were breached. And where many members of the House and Senate voted against certifying the election of the person chosen by. By the American people, President Trump then in. President Trump today continues to assert that the 2020 election was stolen. Stop the steal. He won the 2024 election. His election was certified. He's entitled as president to vigorously use the powers of the presidency to implement the policies that he advocates. He's not entitled to violate the Constitution in his effort to do so. Mr. Chairman, in my view, the beginning of the Trump administration is showing a contempt for the constitution and a lawlessness that is dangerous to the future of our republic. Freezing federal spending, clearly unconstitutional. Shutting down agencies created by Congress with no authority to do so. Removing leaders of agencies, including inspector generals, against the clear requirements of law. Firing government employees subject who have civil service protections. Threatening to deport people based on their political views. Revoking by executive authority birthright citizenship. These are just some of the actions that the president has taken where he has no authority to do so. On Monday, a federal judge said that the White House defied his order to release billions of dollars in federal grants, marking the first time a judge has expressly declared that the Trump administration is disobeying a judicial mandate. This country is headed into a situation where, in addition to acting without authority, the president is indicating he will defy rulings from the third branch of our government, the judiciary. Vice President Vance has made very clear his point of view on this. Judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate powers. Of course, under our constitution, since Marbury vs Madison, the court is the final arbiter of what is constitutional or what is not. My colleagues, my view of this is that the administration is showing maximum contempt for core constitutional values, including, most importantly, the separation of powers. We have a dilemma here. There are many in this committee that are fully in support of the policies that President Trump is pursuing. That's, of course, your right and his right. But the unique responsibility each of us, as a United States Senator has is to guarantee that in pursuit of those policies, it is done within the constitutional boundaries. This is not just to talk about civic aspiration. It's a recognition that the separation of powers, that the system of checks and balances, that the concept that ambition in the executive should be matched with ambition in the legislature, has held this country together for 250 years. We have fierce debates about important public policy matters, but what allows us to resolve those, despite disagreements, intense disagreements, is the pushing and the shoving, the engagement, the winning and moving forward, losing a fight and falling back, but all within the norms of the Constitution. That's being threatened. And I don't say that lightly, but what has happened on January 6 is continuing. And where we saw the stop the steal, the renunciation of the decision that the American people made in 2020 in that election, and the candidates, many of them who came before us, including Mr. Patel, unable to simply say who won the 2020 election, continuing to stop the steal narrative. And then with President Trump in his first weeks in office, acting in ways that challenge the constitutional order, I'm voting against Mr. Patel because he is clearly an instrument in that effort to continue eroding the precepts of the Constitution on the separation of powers. My colleagues, this is a very difficult time, particularly for my colleagues on the Republican side. You support many of President Trump's policies, and as I say, that's your right. But it is so essential to each of us, as a US Senator, to make our own judgments about whether the manner in which power is being used on the executive branch is a threat to the power of the legislative branch. The Article 1 branch we each of us must be custodians of that constitutional order in our role as the legislature in it. Tough judgments that have to be made. My judgment is that the president is showing absolute contempt for the United States Congress. And the next stop is contempt for the United States judiciary. I cannot vote for a person who signed on to that agenda. I yield the floor.

[Steve Bannon]

Right there. That's Senator Peter Welch. The reason I play that in its entirety was. I think it sums up perfectly. Remember, this show, this audience, you, the war room posse, we're the railhead of this. That the 2020 election was. I keep saying. And people want to, you know, the Republican rhinos and all the foxes, they just want to kick. No, no, let's not talk about it. Let's not talk about it. Welch just laid it out right there. It is two different. It's. The 2020 election was stolen. Obviously it was stolen. And look at everything that's happened since then against America. Just think about what's happening here over the last 24 hours. Hornwell is going to join me in a second from Rome, where we got to get into this, the Ukraine, the geopolitics of Europe. Harnwell in the last, you know, been with us three, four years or I guess four years or longer, almost five years since the show started. It's, it's. And everything's come to fruition in the last 24, 48 hours in Europe has been historic. Everything we've talked about on the show, 100%. 100%. Not 99. 100%. And Welch laid it out there, and I respect him for it. I can understand if you're not. If you're not with us on the 2020 election being stolen. I got that you're wrong, but you can have your opinion. It's wrong opinion, but that's fine. That's what country's about. They can't tell people what their opinions, what they should think. That's what we fought a revolution over. But that revolution continues. And Cash Patel is an instrument. He is an instrument. He's going to be an instrument to clean out what has been allowed to deteriorate and become a weapon against the American people. And that's the American Gestapo, the FBI, which has almost no support among the American people today. I think the vote was 12 to 10. At the same time, Bobby Kennedy, you're living. This is living history, the show now. And we're glad to do it because I think we're only people to do it. We will cut in and out of these lives and the show will be a tad choppy as we do it on live tv, but you're seeing history in the making. It's actually like you could be there during the American Revolution. And remember, you're just not sitting there with your channel changer. What is happening on Capitol Hill today? Bobby Kennedy's vote. Cash Patel's vote is because of your agency. That's why I wanted Stern up beforehand. Your agency, the New York magazine. New York, not the New Yorker. New York magazine, which is another. You know, it's a left wing, very intelligently edited and written, has a great piece up today and what Democrats could learn from, from, from the war room, from me. And it all boils down to a populist movement versus the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, the techno feudalists. And the key point, the buried lead, he's got all the way down towards the end of the article. It's about human agency. The oligarchs in AI want to take your agency. They want to take your job. Remember, your job isn't a job. It's the way you manifest yourself. Your being in the world. It's what you've dedicated yourself to do. Some people hate their jobs. You shouldn't do that. But some people do. Some people think they're boxed in. Many, many people, and I think most people love their jobs because it's what they do. It's one of the ways they manifest themselves, manifest their being. The oligarchs and artificial intelligence and the whole singularity want to take that from you. They're going to give agency to the algorithm in the algorithmic age. It's about your agency. Your agency in this show today on Capitol Hill in the Senate, which is the Human Resources Department of by the Constitution, advice and consent. They just consented to Cash Patel at the committee of Jurisdiction, the Judiciary Committee, 12 to 10. It will now go to the floor and Cash Patel will win the vote on the floor and become the next FBI director. Think about that for a second. Cash Patel, who you've known for years on this show, or if you've gone to Trump rallies or read his books or seen him on other these great podcast or interviewed by people seen him on other Real America voice. Bobby Kennedy, the same way the first time Bobby Kennedy was ever introduced to a MAGA audience was on this show years ago. Why? The book brought to me by Tony Lyons called the Case against Anthony Fauci. It's about that dick. And it's published like on paper, the old Yellow Pages. It's like a phone Book. It looks totally inaccessible. It's just page after page of court and it's mesmerizing. The audience love it. We had, remember we had him on for a couple hours years ago on a Saturday. People couldn't get enough of it. RFK we have a final vote. 5146. 5146. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is the secretary of Health and Human Services. This is historic. Mark the time at 11:20am Eastern Time on the what, the 13th of February. Here I put, I was thinking 13 made it. I said hopefully, didn't open the show with it. 13-02-2025. I was thinking May when somebody had contacted me, right for the show. Historic day, historic 24 hours. Yesterday we finally gave the word to Europe, which we should. We tried to many times in the Trump first term. We tried to on this show all the time that you're not a vassal state, you're not a protectorate. You have to stand up and be, you know, we're your ally, but we're not there to wet nurse you. And because you don't pay for your defense, you can give your citizens full health care, free college pensions at 58 weeks off in the summer, fully paid. Our people don't have that. And that's not right that we're underwriting your defense. And you're skiing up in Gstaad and you know, you're hanging out in Tuscany and Provence in the West End of London. The elites living high on the hog. You go over there and you see, you go to London and you see what used to be one of the greatest nations on earth. What's happened to London, the city with all the wealth from all over the world and not an Englishman in sight? Is that what you want? Is that what you want your country to turn into where the world's global elites just come and just come and do what they wilt in your own country? And you as a countryman, you as someone that's been there for generations and generations and generations and the families that fought the wars and gone to work and built a society and done everything on the civic society to build it, that you're just cast aside and mocked and ridiculed. Is that what a country is about? Is that sovereignty? I don't think so. That's what this fight's about. That's on the different. In the house today, in the house where they have these conferences, they're doing a budget markup. And until somebody can convince me in something basic. And I used to do this and go into companies that needed turnarounds, restructuring, debt restructuring. They get in there and they got, every guy's got a different thing in three years is going to be fine and everything like stop, just stop, just stop. That's not relevant. Because you're not going to be here in three years. You need to get focused on today and tomorrow and the next day and how you're going to make it through. And how you're going to make it through is get down and preserve cash and figure out how you can use the little bit of cash you got and the cash flow you got to get through so you can see better days. What's happening here is no penalty. It's been obscure. One of the things of the show is to make things not obscure. This is what we spend the time doing. Why? Because we understand if we give information that the American people can then take on board and think about and mull over and chew on and think about and they'll come to their own decision. And we make a bet. We are long. We don't short. We are long. The common sense and decency and hard headedness and grit and determination of the American people. You know why? Because I look back over history, I can see pattern recognition. If you go long, the American people, you turn out, things turn out okay. Things turn out okay. Because why? Because they're decent, hard working, hard headed grit with an attitude. And that's why they freed more people than any nation on earth. They've created more wealth than any nation on earth. They've done more good than any nation on earth in the history of the earth. But we've had and we've allowed to deteriorate is that we've allowed in becoming a hegemon. This political class with the sociopathic overlords on Wall street and now this apartheid state that they created among progressive Democrats out in Silicon Valley that is quite frankly out of control. And it's coming through and it's going to come through a sith through grass. And the only it's not a disagreement with Josh Hawley, it's an addition. The jobs, the first wave of jobs artificial intelligence is coming for that are going to be massive and big are not blue collar jobs. Yes, there will be factory automation. You see that happening already. You can see in the automation of the cars and all that there will be blue collar jobs or non manager or administrative jobs that will take him. But the big swath is going to come from lower tier managerial, administrative and technical jobs. So as the people under 35 years old, who don't always have all the pressure in the world on them because the economy is structured against them, their country works against them. Now, they got to add this. All those entry kind of level jobs, which you go into the workforce in your 20s, in your early 20s, and you understand how the world works as you press through into your 20s, those are by and large going to go. And they're going to go pretty rapidly. Elon Musk is saying, and I don't agree with, unless it's reviewed and somebody checks it, putting artificial intelligence into these apparatuses, unless we sign off on that. But his direction, he's saying, I'm putting artificial intelligence into these different communications and technology and systems because we can cut costs, we can cut manpower by 50% minimum. And that goes basically from the two and a half million bureaucrats, I don't know, down to a million, two, five, or a million. Why? Because of artificial intelligence.

[Trevor Comstock]

Why?

[Steve Bannon]

Because many, many, many administrative, managerial positions will just be completely, totally automated. And you'll pay for the people that have the judgment, although they'll come for the people paying the judgment eventually because they'll have 10 billion computers at one time interconnected. And, and so even the judgment of what you're paying a senior partner in a law firm or a senior partner in an investment bank. Most trading, if you notice, in the New York Stock Exchange. Remember we used to go down there and you have the guys like on the movie Wall street, and everybody's yelling in the pit, and they're yelling, they got price, they got a bid in an ask. And you got these guys that are able to process it and kind of manage the markets. You notice when CNBC goes there, you don't see, it's like it's quieter than a church or it's as quiet as the empty Catholic churches in midtown Manhattan. Why? Because all the trading's done computer to computer. You look at most of these hedge funds, it's all computer to computer trading. It's all trading on who's. Who's. Who's creating the best algorithm. We live in the algorithmic age. Where does man. Where does man. Where is man's position in the algorithmic age? And the people that driving the algorithmic age. You've seen this. Look at the young Doge guys. Don't know if you know, you'd be hanging out with those guys in college, right? Don't know. I certainly wouldn't be. Not my style, bro. But good on you. Glad that's working out for you. That's the future unless you exert your human agency. Human agency. You're seeing it at every place on Capitol Hill today and you're seeing it the White House. President Trump is going to have. He couldn't be more excited. Today's reciprocity on tariffs, all that work, all that thinking boom personified in Peter Navarro. Peter Navarro is President Trump's wingman on this. You ever seen Peter Navarro? Yeah, I saw him on War Room. Day in and day out, day in and day out, day in and day out. That today happens in the Oval Office and happens because of you. Your power is unlimited. Once you understand you actually have the power. It's manifested today. 51 I think 47. I think Mitch McConnell just to stick it at President Trump. He's a no. Bobby Kennedy is secretary of HHS. Cash Patel has got on committee 12 to 10. Just remember, folks, it was only weeks ago they told you all that was impossible before this audience fixed bayonets and said, I don't know about that. I think it's not just possible, it's probable history in the making because of you. Short break. Back in a moment.

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[Ben Harnwell]

To be clear as part of any security guarantee, there will not be US Troops deployed to Ukraine.

[Steve Bannon]

Kaboom. War room. Ben, tell me about this whole thing because now it's evolving. Zelensky, we've been laying out a framework for the president that the president thinks knocking it down and he's cutting through the chase. Not going to talk to Zelensky, he's going to talk to Putin to figure this thing out as he should. It's been enough nonsense from the Boris Johnson's of the world and NATO guys have gotten people killed. A country looks like Dresden and they're not putting up any money. Trump stunned him. He said again reiterated when Pete Heggs said, hey, Europe's just not at the top of the list for American security guarantee. American security concerns. There's not Panama Canal to Greenland, you know, maybe in the South China Sea and Taiwan because 25% of our economy deals with it. Got an ally in the Middle east and Israel, it's got issues. But what you guys doing in Europe, it's, you know, it's not, it's not number one and you guys going to deal with it. Oh, by the way, President Trump says 5% of GDP should go defense. Ben, you've lived over, you've been in England, English, you were at the European Parliament, a big player there. You've been in and out of commons. Now in Rome, the eternal city. What would happen to the European elites if they actually had to pay 5% of GDP for the defense, given that America pays about 3 1/2% and it's way too much. It's outrageous, it's obscene because the Europeans have been deadbeats and kind of leeched off us for years. The elites, what would happen if they had to go to 5%? Sir?

[Senator Peter Welch]

Steve, good morning. Question. The whole of continental Europe would go populist nationalist the subsequent election in whatever country it is because they know that Russia is not the threat that the elites are claiming it is. Look, Warren Posse, good morning to you. I was going to start off, Steve, quoting one of your favorite philosophers about there being decades when nothing happens, when in the last few hours years have happened. Literally in the last 24 hours, the political needle on Ukraine has moved more than in the last three years. We had in that the shortest cold open ever. But so much, so much moving in those 10 seconds. Pete Hegseth finally saying what had been leaked. I think probably on deep background for about the day before that. But then he came in at this meeting of defence meters, defence ministers and went straight on the record with that. That's something. Look, Steve, I have to pay tribute to the war room posse here. This show was the first and pretty much the only voice talking about security guarantees, the binding in the entrapment of the US on security guarantees. We've been the only voice and I think it's the pressure of this audience that has actually got the Secretary of Defense to come out there and say explicitly, security, US provided security guarantees will not involve us on the ground, because nobody was talking about it apart from this show. And then those people who in the media who follow this show. The other thing, Steve, so we have Pete Hegseth finally and that will make a lot of people that follow this show very, very happy. President Trump, this to some extent is saving the best to last. On his social media platform, Truth, said yesterday that he had spoken to Vladimir Putin. They spoke for about 90 minutes and he said that they had agreed to have their respective teams start negotiations immediately. Now, in and of itself, that's not what has got the European press in meltdown. From this morning onwards, every single European newspaper has been writing about this. It's not the fact that he had this phone call, it's the fact, I think he said the President is sending a Trump a message and we'll go into that is the way he rolled out the fact and the in your face lack of consultations about that phone call that has got all the European Chancellors panicking. Specifically, on one point, Steve, Volodymyr Zelensky had been bitching repeatedly to the President that he thought POTUS should speak to him first before Putin. And if you'll notice in the statement in his President Trump's social media post, he said, I've spoken to Putin. We're going to start negotiations immediately and I will be having a phone call. Next thing I'm going to do is that I'm going to have a phone call with President Zelensky and brief him about it. For those, Steve, who have eyes to see, that was massive, cutting down to size of President Zelensky publicly, I, I have to say, I think it was even basically a public humiliation and it was a long time coming. And I'll say this, Steve, because on this show, we've been sort of, since the inauguration on January 20, every time I've been coming on the show, I've been expressing a slight amount of impatience with the way things were going. And we said, Steve, I think The President hasn't made his mind up on how he wants to do this. And I think that's the case. And in the end, I just think POTUS had had enough of his posturing and continuing to say day after day, because this is something that we text about in real time constantly. Zelensky is constantly pushing out the United States to be paying for its security guarantees. And I think President Trump basically said, you know what, I'm done. I've had enough. I'm not going to wait for General Kellogg to fly to Kiev on I think the 20th of February, the third anniversary. I'm not going to wait for it. I'm not going to wait for Vice President Vance to sit down with General Kellogg in Munich. I'm done. I'm done. I've had enough of being hectored and badgered by Ukraine because they have not shown the United States or President Trump the respect that I think was due. Hence, in the last 24 hours, Steve, we have seen more. We've had this statement from President Trump. And as if you want, I can go into just how the European capitals are melting down on this.

[Steve Bannon]

Please, please.

[Senator Peter Welch]

Okay, okay. So one of the things that President Trump has said is that there'll be no NATO membership for Ukraine. And we've been sort of mentioning this repeatedly that this was really a negotiating tactic of Zelensky to say, okay, I'll relinquish NATO membership, but I want the US Provided security guarantees in their place. He's not going to get either. But you had this absurd scenario where for example, Sweden came out this morning saying, oh look, hang on, you know, we're not, nothing's being closed down. It's still possible that Ukraine can join NATO, which a direct countering of what President Trump has just said. And you know, you think to yourself, well, hang on a minute, hang on. Sweden hasn't even been in NATO for 12 months, yet it spends just a little over 2% of its 2.2% to be precise, of its defense of GDP has slightly over the minimum target, which you know how much that is. It's $12 billion equivalent a year on its defense. Massive free ride, massive free ride at American taxpayers expense because like, for like no one is going to invade the United States. But Sweden's risk isn't zero. So Sweden with its 12 billion of defense, I think the US racks it up in a couple of days in terms of interest repayments on its own, on its own debt. Sweden will make no difference whatsoever to any incident that takes place in the United States, but the United States is a big gift to Sweden. So there they are in NATO for less than 12 months and they're directly cutting across what President Trump has said. America being by far the largest donor to NATO. I know we're coming up to a break, but I'll say this, Steve, it is time. I will desperately say to President Trump, I think for the health and safety of NATO and the United States, it is to be considered withdrawing America from the alliance and let the Europeans pay for NATO themselves. I think there'd be less risk involved in that. And finally, on the paying of NATO and the European strategy, I close with this and hand back to you. The whole strategy of the last three years was to isolate Russia. And in the last 24 hours, far from Russia being isolated, it would now seem to be that Europe has, is the entity, is the geopolitical entity, which is now broadly isolated in the world and it is isolated itself. Come back to your question at the beginning. If the European capitals tried to do what he formally said now, which is that they should increase their defense spending to 5%, there will be revolutions across Europe, no doubt whatsoever. Italy can't even do 2%, is at 1.5%. There's no money. These countries are bankrupt. And the European peoples know that the whole Russia thing, the Russia, Russia, Russia thing, sweeping into Ukraine, sweeping in to Europe, was a hoax. And all of these governments will be wiped out if they even try to get anywhere near that 5%.

[Steve Bannon]

Ben, where do people go on social media? Great, great summary. Where do people go?

[Senator Peter Welch]

Get it, Steve? I've got some great posts up there. My surname Arnwell, and I'll be updating that as these developments continue to roll out. Thanks, Steve. God.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Decades with nothing happening, weeks with decades happening next in the world.

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