Episode 4270: Fighting Back Against Budget Increases; Trillion Dollar Spending To Cripple The American Working Class

Summary

Podcast Title: Bannon’s War Room
Host/Author: WarRoom.org
Episode: 4270: Fighting Back Against Budget Increases; Trillion Dollar Spending To Cripple The American Working Class
Release Date: February 14, 2025

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1. Introduction to Fiscal Concerns

The episode kicks off with Stephen K. Bannon and his guest Andy Biggs, a prominent Republican Congressman, delving deep into the alarming state of the United States' federal budget. They express profound concern over the soaring national debt, which, according to Andy Biggs ([26:49]), stands at $2 trillion, a figure confirmed by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

Andy Biggs:
"When Republicans came out of Miami, they were talking at 30 billion a year as their cut number for 10 years. Think about that, how absurd that is."
([26:49])

2. Breakdown of Budgetary Challenges

a. Deficit and Spending Cuts

Stephen K. Bannon raises the issue of mandatory vs. discretionary spending, emphasizing the difficulty in achieving substantial cuts without bipartisan cooperation. Andy Biggs discusses the reconciliation package, which allows for mandatory spending cuts but excludes discretionary spending due to Senate filibuster rules.

Andy Biggs:
"This means that you're not including all the Doge cuts that are being found, right? So that's bad."
([30:55])

b. Impact on Federal Programs

The conversation highlights how current budget proposals fail to address critical areas:

• Medicaid Cuts: Stephen K. Bannon supports cutting Medicaid for illegal aliens while stressing the need to prioritize defense spending.

• Defense Budget: They argue that the 3.4% of GDP allocated to defense is insufficient compared to other nations and advocate for reallocating funds to secure national interests more effectively.

Stephen K. Bannon:
"Our defense budget is a percentage of GDP. They pay under 2. And I was tasked with sitting down with these guys, said, yo, yo, yo, it's not even two when you go in there."
([32:16])

3. Geopolitical Strategies and National Security

a. Combating the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)

Stephen K. Bannon outlines a strategic approach to counter the CCP, emphasizing economic separation and technological barriers to prevent their influence.

Stephen K. Bannon:
"Cut them off from our capital markets and cut them off from our technology. I mean really cut them off."
([20:XX])

b. Relations with Russia and Europe

The discussion touches on the complex relationships with Russia and European nations. Professor Naropat provides insights into how USAID and the CCP have influenced political landscapes in India and Europe, leading to the rise of extremist ideologies due to economic hardships.

Professor Naropat:
"If there is a kinetic conflict, God forbid, there's a kinetic conflict... we need to have a force that can react and act in such a manner that the CCP itself gets destroyed."
([17:35])

4. Border Security and Wall Building

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to border security, highlighting the successful construction of a border wall by Ben Berkwam and discussing its strategic importance.

Ben Berkwam:
"We built the wall. It had to be built. You got to stop that flowing."
([37:24])

Stephen K. Bannon:
"This is one of the best projects ever done in the private sector in America. The wall that the Democrats said couldn't be built... it's the best wall."
([38:39])

5. Economic Policies Affecting the Working Class

The hosts and guests discuss how excessive federal spending and budget deficits are adversely impacting the American working class. They argue that high taxes, reduced job opportunities, and the outsourcing of jobs are undermining the economic stability of average Americans.

Stephen K. Bannon:
"The working class in this country have been so underpaid by the corporations we gave tax breaks to and the people that the corporations shipped all the jobs overseas."
([23:XX])

6. Strategic Alliances and Political Movements

The podcast emphasizes the importance of building alliances with like-minded political figures and leveraging grassroots movements to counteract current government policies. Professor Naropat praises the collaboration between Prime Minister Modi of India and President Trump, highlighting their shared nationalist goals.

Professor Naropat:
"Trump 2.0 has done us a great favor by exposing the lens to which organizations such as USAID have basically interfered with politics in India."
([17:35])

7. Concluding Insights and Future Actions

In the closing segments, Stephen K. Bannon and Andy Biggs reiterate the urgency of addressing the federal budget crisis. They call for continued efforts to implement meaningful spending cuts and advocate for policies that support the working class and national security.

Stephen K. Bannon:
"We're knocking them down. President Trump. Days of thunder, years of lightning. We're crushing it."
([42:26])

Andy Biggs:
"I'm still pushing for that. I'm still hoping we're going to get there. There are several other mechanisms to get there."
([26:49])

8. Notable Quotes

• Steve Bannon:
  "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
  ([00:02])

• Stephen K. Bannon:
  "It's going to happen."
  ([00:02])

• Andy Biggs:
  "When Republicans came out of Miami, they were talking at 30 billion a year as their cut number for 10 years. Think about that, how absurd that is."
  ([26:49])

• Professor Naropat:
  "If there is a kinetic conflict... we need to have a force that can react and act in such a manner that the CCP itself gets destroyed."
  ([17:35])

9. Final Thoughts

Episode 4270 of Bannon’s War Room offers a comprehensive critique of the United States' fiscal policies and their broader implications on national security and the American working class. Through in-depth discussions with political figures and experts, the hosts shed light on the urgent need for substantial budgetary reforms and strategic geopolitical maneuvers to safeguard the nation's future.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. As we told you, if you look at the three aspects of the key work that President Trump has to get done right away as we walk you through it many, many times with just a reset, you've got the he must end the kinetic part of the Third World War. He's doing that in Ukraine and he's doing that in the Middle east and particularly in Gaza. At the same time, you have to make sure and prepare that we don't get into a shooting war with the Chinese Communist Party around Taiwan with exerting our interest, not surrendering, but exerting our interest. And as you know, in this show, we're the hardest of the heart of take down the Chinese Communist Party. But obviously, President Trump has to deal with a much more complicated situation than that. And he can't just come out and say, hey, we got to take down the ccp. That would be too blunt. So that's on the geopolitical, national security side. Then on the border, we got to get, you know, we have to secure the border, then deport, I don't know, 10 to 12 million illegal alien invaders. That's why we started the show with Ben Berkwam, to show the efforts are still underway to make sure this thing is sealed. And like you said, I'm very familiar. We spent a lot of time down there in Sunland, New Mexico. That's right where we built a wall between Juarez and El Paso, one of the most dangerous places on earth in the United States of America. If you don't believe me, I always recommend this weekend, you want to have something that will be an eye opener for you is the movie Sicario. It's 10 years old now, but it's made like it's made today. And man, it is bad hombres after bad hombres after bad hombres and it's right there in Juarez, in El Paso, which is one of the hot spots. The Army Corps of Engineers said the wall could not be built. And we built it. It had to be built. You got to stop that floating. But that's President Trump's second, which is both secure and the deport. And this whole meltdown of the Justice Department has sucked up a ton of time, a ton of effort. It's this Eric Adams situation in New York City. We just gave you news that looks like Newsom is caved in. California supporting that 50. He's going to veto that $50 million. Remember we talked about this. They passed the gall of them to pass a $50 million bill that got California taxpayer money of $50 million to thwart President Trump's efforts on the sanctuary cities to get folks out of here and starting with the most violent, dangerous criminals. And I said, why are we even considering. Why would you have a team? Why is Ambassador Rick Renell even out there considering a rebuild that American taxpayers are going to step in and basically bail out the insurance companies or the pool of insurance? Because I got to tell you, if you don't take care of the insurance issue out there, what they call these fire zones now, the equity value of the homes in Southern California are going to go to zero. There has to be a major rethinking of this, a major rethinking, because it's going to cost the American taxpayers a lot of money. And people, I think, are prepared to do it because such a vital part of the economy. But, hey, we're not going to let you play games. So whether it's New York City and remember Manhattan, it ain't Peoria, Illinois, you know, it's not Garden City, Missouri, it's not Provo, Utah, it's not Demings, New Mexico, right there on that part of the border down there by Sunland, it's the financial capital of the world. And this is why it's so dangerous to President Trump. Because if the DC Is the bridge of the ship of state and you have the home offices that basically what they are of the Federal Reserve and the home office of the treasury next to the White House, the engine room of that ship is New York City. Trade data, all commerce, trade and finance, capital markets boom all through there. And if it's not transacted there, it's on a server there. And therefore it gives these source radicals like Bragg and Letitia James control. And they know this source knows that these are smart, cunning people. So that gets. And then it gets to the third part. The third part is they fight the deportations and we try to get this fight these sanctuary cities. You get the third part, which is basically sorting out this financial message. Now the financial mess. Andy Biggs is going to tell him because a big part of it is, you know, the Europeans. JD Just told them right there, hey, the problem ain't China, it's not Russia, it's you. But this is also we met the enemy and they are us in this budget. We can't bitch and moan and whine this. Outside forces, this, we've done this ourselves consistently because we have a political class that thrives off this and they don't have to pay any consequences and no accountability because they got a money printing machine called the Federal Reserve. Now, what President Trump's trying to do, this is where Navarro and the tradehe's trying to reset the economic model of the country to really reset patterns of world trade. This is why the reciprocity for these tariffs is quite brilliant. And they're sitting there mocking, well, you can't do it. It's so ridiculous. I don't need to hear Paul Krugman and these guys all wrong on inflation. President Trump's got a very sophisticated theory about the market of the United States. This is why the Canadians, not just geostrategically but geo economically, are going to wake up to the fact that, hey, I think it may make sense to somehow put this together. But he's thinking through the whole pattern of world trade and how we get back to at least a third of our costs being covered by the premium ticket it takes to get here into the United States market. Obviously we're doing this in this, in this, in this, how do I say this? The political geopolitical reality of the 21st century, and that is the Chinese Communist Party, the gangsters in Beijing now have two partners. They have partners. They had the mullahs in Tehran. So you got the Persians on board and you got the KGB in Russia. And the biggest strategic mistake we've made in, I don't know, since Richard Nixon got China on our side, I shouldn't say on our side, to get them on, not the side of the Soviet Union, because they're only on their own side, is to allow Russia to be forced into the hands of the ccp, as they were in President Trump's. First thing for these radicals up here that are maniacally focused on us getting into a shooting war with Russia, they are. That's your apparatus here. That's the guys at The Munich conference, they just want to sit there and go, russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. JD went and said, hey, timeout. Not Russia. In fact, not even ccp. You, you're the problem. Because they got a big love tap the other day. The love tap from Pete Hegser was, hey, look, you know, the security of Europe is no longer in the vital national security interest of the United States, not just the Eastern Slavic border between Ukraine and Soviet Union. He's saying the whole deal, it's important, it's just not in the vital. That went like a shock because then all of a sudden the people have been leeching off workers in the United States, the elites of Europe. Wake up call. I guess when Trump told me it had to be 5% GDP for my defense, maybe I should take that. Hell, we're paying 3.4% at $900 billion and it can't, it can't go on. It can't, it cannot go on. Particularly when we should be using unrestricted warfare against them. Like, hey, let me think about this for a second. What should. Oh yeah, cut them off from our capital markets and cut them off from our technology. And I mean really cut them off. Not let Sequoia Capital and all these traders basically give them access to our technology through their investments in joint ventures. I mean, get real about it. You get real about it. You don't need a $900 billion defense budget. I'm a hawk and I'm telling you, you don't need one. That's all. Because those pigs at the trough in Munich got their snouts down there big. And this budget we just came out with, they're cutting Medicaid. And hey, I'm all for cutting Medicaid if it's illegal aliens on there, waste, fraud and abuse. All of it. Right, all of it. And if it's excess. But we have to also have a wake up call here. The working class in this country have been so underpaid by the corporations we gave tax breaks to and the people that the corporations shipped all the jobs overseas. Some people don't have high value added paying, good paying jobs anymore. Just a reality. They don't, they don't want to be on Medicaid, but they are on Medicaid. You can't be cutting that until you get to the Defense Department. You got to get across the Potomac. You got to face facts. You got to face a hard reality. And the Europeans are getting a day with both barrels. They got Pete Hegseth one barrel yesterday, got the other barrel, JD Vance today JD Said, hey, I don't want to hear all your whining. I don't want to hear all this because, no offense, you guys allowed the mass migration that is the invasion of your country. You welcomed it. Merkel, remember, used to be at the train station, sitting there, welcome, welcome. Hey, they waited at the train station yesterday in Munich when the guy with the car ran over another 15 or 20 people, or was it Cologne? A couple weeks ago? Were they driving into the Christmas. The Christmas, you know, the Christmas Village. They welcomed them on those trains. I said, the time when this started with Merkel, when I was covering for Breitbart, I said, hey, they're not going to be welcoming in a couple of years because they do not assimilate. They do not assimilate. And they're in. They. And they got a chip on their shoulder and they want to take this place over. And that's what's happening. Full on, full stop. You told the elites of Europe, guess what? You're not a vassal state. You're not a protectorate. How can. No. They're not a protect law. Go to Sta Gasta. Go to. Go to Provence. Go to the south of France. Go to Tuscany. Go to the west end of London. There's more money there. Europe's got money all over the place. You know where it's not. It's not with the. It's not down with the. It's not down with their defense. If they're so worried about Russia. This is a Russian army that's lost, according to President Trump, 750,000 men either killed or wounded, and they have not taken Kharkiv yet. They're backed up in Kursk in their territory, and they've not even come close to taking Kyiv. They're still short of the Dnieper River. The Dnieper River. You're telling me that's going to roll across Poland? The North German plane? No, forget it. That's not the army that we. That's not the army that we forward deployed tactical nuclear weapons. The Pershing missiles back in the early 80s about when the European elites had a meltdown. When we bailed them out for the third time. We bailed you out enough. You got to bail yourselves out. You can take your resources. You're so concerned. This is why trump. We pay 3.4%. It's outrageous. Our defense budget is a percentage of GDP. They pay under 2. And I was tasked with sitting down with these guys, said, yo, yo, yo, it's not even two when you go in there. It's got women's health care, it's got green New deal, it's got all this crap. I said no. I want to see maneuvers, I want to see training, I want to see interoperability, I want to see weapons, I want to see how NATO stands up more than two combat divisions. NATO is a paper tiger. Everybody knows that's an open secret. The biggest fight they have in NATO because every quarter they have a maneuver. They have these maneuvers, these operations. And every quarter the kind of administrative leadership in Brussels changes to a new partner. You know, Poland one day, one quarter, UK the next, the United States one, Italy the next. The biggest fights they have is how to make sure they're out of and don't have, you know, they're not stuck with one of the big maneuvers because they've got to pay the extra money. That's how serious an ally they are. They should have gotten the joke. And this is my problem with the defense budget. President Trump has given you a hemispheric defense from the Panama Canal to Greenland and the Arctic. We're going to hermetically seal that part of Central and North America. Yep, yep. You're going to seal it with Alaska and Greenland and the Arctic and maybe eventually Canada. Canada's going to step up to the plate because you're going to lose your territorial integrity and your sovereignty up there. And then when you look to the Pacific and you look at the vast ocean, the vast desert of the Pacific Ocean, you see the three island chains, all of a sudden America is kind of impenetrable. Yeah. You add on top of it a iron dome or an anti ballistic missile. Hey, we're good to go. Show me what you got. Then you can pick and choose. Then all of a sudden you can get focused on Taiwan and get a navy and build a navy and build a force to defend Taiwan. You don't have to be spread all hell's half acre. The post war international rules based order with those pigs in Munich are up at the trough on has been underwritten by American working men and women. Their tax dollars for what? 70 or 80 years in the blood of their kids, their sons and daughters. From the 101st Ford deployed in Romania to people walking, patrolling the Hindu Kush, to those kids on the carrier battle groups in the Red Sea to keep the Suez Canal open for those awful, awful elites in Europe, South China Sea, the 28,000 combat troops we have in South Korea that are essentially hostages. They have a coup going on over there inspired by the Chinese Communist Party. You got Kids on patrol in the South China Sea. You got airmen all over the place. You have Special Forces over Hell's Half Acre in Sub Saharan Africa, North Africa, Middle East. We've paid the price. We've been vigilant. It's time for other people to pick up the thing. You know, in Europe, you're a bunch of deadbeats, though the elites of Europe are deadbeats. And remember, every one of those countries virtually were not on our side in World War II. Those elites were not on our side from Spain and Italy and Germany and Norway and Sweden and Ireland. Hey, and there's a whole bunch of elites in England weren't on our side either. Hess didn't fly over there at half tea. Went over there, cut a deal with that crowd. Short break.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Ben's gonna be at the wall in a moment, and then I've gotten a bunch of information. Chip Rory about the budget, and then we're trying to get Annie Biggs to join us. I want to go to Professor Naropat, though, from India. I gave a big interview on Indian TV early this morning here in Washington, D.C. in the evening sir, you're considered one of the geopolitical experts over there. Give the assessment of Modi's trip. You know, Modi's beloved by our audience as being one of the great nationalists in the world. Obviously, President Trump has a very close relationship, although we do understand Modi is a very tough negotiator and there's a lot of issues given the tariffs and the reciprocity of the terrorists. But I'm sure that will all get worked out among friends in tough negotiations. What's your assessment of the trip and what's the folks in India's assessment of President Trump 2.0?

[Professor Naropat]

Well, look, let me tell you one thing. Our assessment of trip is that it was success for the simple reason that there was an understanding of Trump 2.0 and 2.2 is very different from 1.2 when he was sabotaged from within. And Trump 2.0 has done us a great favor by exposing the lens to which organizations such as USAID have basically interfered with politics in India, they interfered in Bangladesh, they toppled the government and replaces the genocidal regime now. The same they wanted to topple Modi in 2024. It didn't succeed, but it came very close to succeeding. I mean, we, you know, when you talk about so much of the social media, so called influencers, this kind of phenomena, the me, the, the viral way in which they, you know, they are met, it all comes together now. It all makes sense where the money ultimately comes from. USAID is one part of it. The Chinese Communist Party is the other part of it. And therefore, let me say there was a perfect alliance between the two people say USAID and the CCP are opposite each other. When you damage usaid, you're helping the ccp. Far from it. The USAID had the same regime objectives, had the same societal objectives of widening the fringes of society and basically ensuring that the fringes dominate the political discourse. And that's what they did through social media. That the same playbook of the ccp, maybe CCP is putting a lot more money into it, but the reality is by USAID, the 2/3 of it that acted in this fashion, one third maybe genuine, it, I don't know, but 2/3 acted in this fashion. And they, as you, you know, Steve, you know very well about Russia. The fact is you pushed Russia into the embrace of China. China was successful in winning over the United States, unfortunately, at great cost in the future to all of us, you and, and, and we together. But the reality is that it isolated the Soviet Union. I personally Feel that Russia should. If there is, if there is a kinetic conflict, God forbid there's a kinetic conflict. The only way to deter it is by showing that we have the resolve and the capability of inflicting a grievous terminal blow on the ccp. But if there is a kinetic conflict by some miscalculation of the CCP leadership and remember Steve, the CCP leadership is not a democratic leadership. It depends essentially on five or six people around one person, Xi Jinping, then I would like to say the fact of the matter is that in that situation we need to have a force that can react and act in such a manner that the CCP itself gets destroyed. And if they know that we have got that and that capability gets known, even Xi Jinping, I think will hesitate to launch a kinetic war, for example, against Taiwan. Now he, I know he's been trying to basically play up Russia as the, as the enemy. Look at the social media posts. You will find the CCP funding at the, at the origins of a lot of these posts that portray Russia as the, as the big, you know, the big threat to Western civilization. Ukraine as the key to save Western civilization. What happened to Western civilization when Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union? Was, was the Western world destroyed? I mean nothing, nothing happened. And the fact of the matter is the Russians fought in Second World War basically on the side of the allies, as did, by the way, 2 million soldiers who are of Indian ethnicity. But, and it were made, it makes sense. What the President is doing now, what Prime Minister Modi is, is trying to do, which is ensure that the Russians remain kinetically neutral if there is a kinetic conflict. And if they do become neutral, Steve, I can tell you I don't believe even Xi Jinping will be reckless enough to launch a kinetic war with Russia on side. Well, it may be a different story.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Professor, what do you think of the President Trump and Modi committed? The trade right now is about $190 billion, $200 billion. They committed to doubling that in five years to get to $500 billion. Is that realistic?

[Professor Naropat]

Sir, let me tell you that the so called left liberal lobbies that you and I have been talking about and warning about, they would like to ensure that it fails, but it's in fact more than realistic. Weapons, for example. You know, it's very important to dealing from Russia where weapons supply and matters of, of security and defense are concerned. Yes, we are going to continue to buy commodities, we are going to continue to buy oil so long as it's offered to us at a cheaper rate than other countries. We are not a wealthy country. Our per capita income is abysmally low. And we need that. Whatever money we can save, we need that in purchases of commodities and oil, but agricultural products, for example, we have a problem there. We have far too many farmers on our land, but we can't afford to send them basically jobless, because if that happens, what happens is that they will turn to all kinds of other pursuits. And you know very well that when a person is jobless, then after some three, four years, a kind of psychosis grips him, and then he falls prey to extremist ideology. It's no, it's no surprise that in Nazi Germany, after, you know, after the terrible economic crisis of the Weimar Republic crisis, by the way, caused by the folly of the French mostly, who basically suffered the German occupation later, I mean, you find so many people gravitated to a crazy guy, a psychotic. And this is the worry that we have got. We have got young people who are exceptionally high potential. They need proper training, they need proper education, and they need the means for a good life. And. And if you don't give them that, then heaven knows what. What pathways they'll adopt. So then. So that is why it's so very important. President Trump understands that fully. And I can tell you that from our point of view, the meeting went exceptionally well because Prime Minister Modi understood Trump 2.0, and it's not Trump 1.2.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Definitely not Trump 1.0. Professor, where do people get you? What's the social media? What website do they go to? We'll continue this dialogue. Modi, by the way, very rarely does a press conference and never takes live questions. He took a couple the other day to show the respect he has for the American people, for President Trump. Where do people go get you, sir?

[Professor Naropat]

Well, it's. There's something called at the rate of MD in Alapa or something on Twitter, I think it's fairly easy to check it out. But the reality is I'm not on social media at all.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I don't get your writings. Get up there. Professor, thank you so much for. Make sure people get your writing, your columns.

[Professor Naropat]

God. God bless Trump, the United States, Prime Minister Modi and my country, India, and God bless our partnership. Namaskar.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Andy Biggs. We're gonna go to Ben here shortly. Andy Biggs, Congressman Biggs joins us. Congressman, I can't make head nor tails of this thing. We got a couple minutes here. We will hold you through the break. Are we cutting you're the most, you're the biggest hawk we got there. You're bigger than Chip Roy, you're bigger than MTG or Gates or any of them. You're bigger than Gosar. And that's saying something. Or even Tom Massey. Is this thing smoke and mirrors or is there really a significant commitment to cut federal spending? Sir.

[Andy Biggs]

There is a commitment to cut federal spending. It's not nearly where it needs to be or should be. But Steve, this is what I'll tell you. When they came, when the Republicans came out of Miami, they were talking at 30 billion a year as their cut number for 10 years. Think about that, how absurd that is. When you have a 2.25 trillion, this actually gets it up to north of 200 billion on one portion of the budget. And then if you throw in the Doge stuff, what they're doing, you have a chance to get a ticket up to maybe 4 or $500 billion a year. That's real money. That's the first time in American history perhaps that we've actually seen any kind of real cuts. Now does that do everything needs to know. I was seeking a trillion dollars of reductions every year. I, I'm still pushing for that. I'm still hoping we're going to get there. There are several other mechanisms to get there. And you know, yeah, you're getting real cuts, Steve, you're getting real cuts. It's just not, not where it needs to be in my opinion.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on one second, Congressman, we're going to take a short break. Congressman Andy Biggs, one of the biggest and not the biggest deficit hawk is on, on point on this. We're going to try to break it down so folks we can chew on it over the weekends. One of the things we're going to discuss next week at cpac, we're going to break down the federal budget, see how we cut more. Birchgold.com make sure the end of the dollar empire. Modern monetary theories of new free sixth installment. It's the reason we got here was this bizarre theory, the idea that broke the world. Also take your phone out, ban it at 989-898. Get the free brochure. How to invest in precious metals and gold in the age of Trump. Very important now more than ever. His gold's near an all time high. Short break. Bigs on the other side.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. We've only got Congressman Biggs for a few minutes, so I want to get to. So when you're saying you guys have got it now to $200 billion per year now it's over 10 years, but let me. I'll get off my hobby horse there for a minute. And you're saying could get to 400 billion, what about is where do the doge cuts come in? Are people just discounting those as zero or are they taking it seriously that Elon Musk and these guys actually have something? And where do I see this manifested in these numbers?

[Andy Biggs]

Okay, Steve, in this number in the reconciliation package. I know this is going to get technical, but you can only do mandatory spending. And where Doge is working, they're working in the 28% of the budget. That is discretionary and that's a big pond efficient. There's a lot of money there and they're doing a great job finding that. But that will never be counted in reconciliation package because under the crazy rules that we have to get around the Senate filibuster, you can only do that with mandatory spending. Which is why. That's why it's looking like it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, no, it kind of makes sense because it shows. You got to change something to actually have it to take it. Make it non mandatory so it's real because discretionary. You could change your mind. Okay, let's go back then. Is the Doge numbers going to come up in the sea? Because this reconciliation has nothing to do with the 14th of March. We're now 29 days away or whatever it is. 30 days. 29 days, I think tonight away from a government shutdown, because we're already hit the debt ceiling we've got. We technically can't pay for anything on the starting the 15th of March. The ides of March, I might mention. So is that where the Doge cuts are going to come in? At some time, we're going to manifest at least a first cut of the Doge or the cr. Are we just going to kick the can down for a full year cr on the 14th?

[Andy Biggs]

I'm sad to tell you now, this is one of my notes I was going to bring up with you, so I'm glad you brought it up. I'm sad to say. I think they're going to do a full year CR for the rest of the year. Now, think about this. This is how crazy that is. It means that you're not including all the Doge cuts that are being found, right? So that's bad. The second thing is, you're essentially keeping the same Biden programs in place at the same dollar amount. So you're getting nothing for the 2025 fiscal year. And that's part of my problem with these crs, because the reason you have Doge.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on, hang on. It's worse as we've gotten the audience up to speed. Number one, it's Biden's budget from last year. So Trump's first year, 25% of his entire second term will be on Biden's number. Number one, not one penny will change. Number two, it's a $2 trillion deficit. We know this because CBO confirms it's $1.9 trillion. We said it's $2 trillion deficit that we're just agreeing to. Third, there's not all of Elon Musk running around. There's not one penny. And I don't think they get. There's not one penny. A Doge cuts in there. Does Johnson and these guys understand the heckle they're going to get? I mean, the firestorm that's going to come out of the war room when people sit there and try to sell the fact Biden math, $2 trillion deficit, no Elon Musk or Doge cuts, and we're just going to live with it. I mean, this. I don't understand the mentality and I love the fact they're doing reconciliations, all this. But this is not. These are not compulsories. This is freestyle skating on Sunday to try to win the gold, you gotta get a 10 on the compulsories. On Saturday night, you gotta get a 10 here, we're gonna get a zero. And what am I missing, Biggs, because you're the best, and this is driving me nuts. What am I missing?

[Andy Biggs]

Well, I wish I could tell you're missing something, but I don't think you're missing anything, because that's where I am. I'm looking at it. And like, we know the CR is going to come. And again, Steve, what I've begged them to do, and I've actually started again. I do it every time a CR is getting close. I say, why don't we take the appropriations bills that we passed a year ago and put them back up on the floor. Now, we did seven of them. That's 75% of the funding of the budget. Steve, if you did that, you could include all of the Doge cuts that. That you know are out there.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Taj Gil]

Could you.

[Andy Biggs]

Could all of that stuff.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Andy Biggs]

Do that every. Steve, this will be the 36th CR in the last 10 years. So I haven't been there that long. But I can tell you, every time there's been a cr, I've said, well, why aren't we doing at least some of the budget bills we've already done? Why don't we do that?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, Councilman Biggs, what's your. We're let you. I'm going to have a deeper discussion with you offline. We'll figure this out, folks. We're going to do this. This is where you got to come to CPAC at the Force Multiplier, and we'll walk through. Break this down. Congressman Biggs, social media. Where do folks go to get you, sir? And you're in your website.

[Andy Biggs]

Biggsforarizona.com bigsforarizona.com or you can go to my official. Which is biggs.house.gov but I prefer you go to bigsforarizona.Com.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Biggs for Arizona. Congressman, I'll track you down this afternoon. Okay? We got a lot of talk. I love me some Andy Biggs. That guy right there is a salt of the earth. You heard it right there. He's the best. He's the biggest deficit. He's the real. He's the true deficit. Look, you got some great guys. You got Gosar, you got Tom Massie, you've got. You know, Massey's not right on political and everything on this stuff, though, and it just confirmed it. So we're gonna think this through. If you go to the appropriations bills, I know it's gonna be a pain. You have to work some weekends Maybe you can't take 10 days off. Maybe you're not home on Valentine's Day. Hell, Saint Valentine's a martyr. He wouldn't mind work. Maybe we stay here for the next 10 days and work on the appropriation bill. But no, we got to take 10 days off because we've been here for two weeks. We got to take 10 for constituent. This is where they say they got to go home and see there's constituent. Hey. When you see them go up in their grill and say, hey, you're not doing a one year CR. You're not going to go to September 30th on Biden's fricking numbers. Two train of deficits and no input at all for Elon. Think about the insanity. What the Doge guys have done just in the audits have shown, I don't know, 10, 15, 20, 50, 100 billion to hundreds of billions of dollars. President Trump's over hundreds of billions of dollars. Not only, not one penny coming out. You're paying for all of it. You're going to underwrite all of the corruption, waste, fraud, abuse, duplicate programs, usaid, all of it. You, you. Are you a sucker? Are you a sucker? No. Look in the mirror. Say I am a sucker. I'm an American taxpayer and I'm a sucker. They play me like a moron. They play us like morons. So now you're going to get it. You're going to get some big tap dance. Look over here, look over there. Let's look over here. No Biden's math. $2 trillion of deficits, not one penny out from Doge because Elon, they structurally blocked them out. I'm not saying they haven't found it. I think they have found it. If you open up, the appropriations bills are not going to be perfect. You only get 75% there, but you get all Elon's cuts. All Elon's cuts and not Biden's numbers. Trump's math, unbelievable. Ben Berkhwe brother won the engineering marvels of the 21st century. Where are you, sir? This was made by patriots for Patriots to save the people in Sunland, New Mexico and El Paso, Texas. Where are you, brother?

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, Steve, I'm at the wall that we built. You, me, the American people, and we built the wall. To me, one of the best projects ever done in the private sector in America. The wall that the Democrats said couldn't be built, the wall that the left said couldn't be built, the wall that the left didn't want built because they're coordinating. Corrupted by the cartels.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Inspired by and left. Led by a veteran that has no legs and only one arm is now right in the triple amputee. Veteran, triple amputee. The most wounded airman. The most wounded airman in the history of our country. In fact, in the days of the 8th Air Force over Germany, he wouldn't have survived because he was too blown away. His vision inspired that. And that wall's end. The Army Corps of Engineers told him and all of us, impossible. You can't build a wall up that mountain. Look at that wall right there. It's the best wall. It's the best model wall ever built, bar none. I'll take it against the other two. Three miles. The best. Or the three miles we built on the Rio Grant. Right on the riverbank, not a mile inland on a ridge.

[Ben Berkwam]

Right on the river.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You said, what the hell? What's the purpose? They get over, they swim across and they touch base and they're already in. You gotta build it right on the water, right here, right up a side of the mountain. Berquham, you were there when we did it, were you not, sir?

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah. This is a huge part of the legacy of War Room of Real America's Voice. News of my life. Of your life. I'm honored to be back here. I was honored to be a part of it. I was here with Tudor Dixon when we first kicked this thing off, and Amanda Head and the whole network was down here with you. It's really where our relationship really started and has grown from, was us coming together on this project to secure America. While the mainstream media was selling America out, we were backing up President Trump saying, we can do it. The American people can do it. This wall can be built. And it was one of the catalysts that really led to this fight that we're in now. And the most disgraceful part is the last four years, they stopped building the walls. They allowed the entire area you see behind me where the wall ends to be taken over by the cartels. And that ended on January 20th this year, 2025, when President Trump took office again. We plugged the bleeding.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the. It's so forbidding down there. That's an old brickyard where we actually built it, right up the side there. This is where we met Real America Voice. We were down there. We wanted to have a conference after it was over. Now it's in El Paso, Texas, I think it was. We finished the wall. We built the wall literally over 92 hours or 90 hours over memorial Day. Weekend, I think we kicked it off with a two day or three day conference. Ben, if memory serves me correctly, I think it was in July.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

By the time we get set up. So it's 115, it's 112 degrees. It's 112 degrees. You got Amanda Head, you got Tudor Dixon, you got these amazing people. And I got this, I got a crazy guy, Rob Sig. He goes, oh, no, we're going to stream this. This is, this is. You should stream it. And I go, man, these guys are. These guys burn. Was there. It was, it was extraordinary. It was. Candace Owens showed up. Remember Candace? And we had, but you can tell right there, the audience that came. We had an audience. And the audience was like in Star Texas, the people that showed up could handle the heat. Ben, remember about 90% of the audience, it was working class Hispanic American citizens.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That had said that this place is so dangerous without it. And that's why I told people, I said, hey, these Hispanic Americans that live in the Rio Grande Valley or live on South Texas or live on the border of New Mexico, they're our voters. All they need to do is show that somebody cares about them. All they need to do is show somebody's going to build a wall. That's right. All you need to show them is that you've got their back. If you have their back, they're going to have you. Because they told us consistently the Democrats have abandoned us. And that's right there where you got that radical female Democrat down there in El Paso, El Nino, you know, Nino tells us about it all the time. One of the worst. And we had Nino and had all the working class Hispanics come in and say, you got to save us from this woman. This woman's crazy. She's open borders. She basically has no problem with the cartels. Ben, you remember that meeting those folks?

[Ben Berkwam]

Oh, 100% to your point. Brian Colfasch still sitting in prison, triple amputee, American warrior hero sitting in prison because of this project that the American people came together on. But this was the catalyst that really changed it. Actually, you look at the Hispanic vote down to the Rio Grande Valley from here, as far east or west as you can go in Texas, all the way down to the Rio Grande Valley. That was where we saw the shift in the Hispanic community saying, you know what, President Trump has our back. The Democrats have lied to us for decades. We're going to have his back. And that's where we saw that happen in Zapata county you would never think would go for Trump. Went for Trump. And now you're seeing that same shift happen up in Chicago in the black communities as they realize they've been abandoned by the Democrats. All of this started in President Trump's first term. And now we have an opportunity to finish.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's what now, we started with war Room impeachment, but it was there I got the inspiration for the War Room to do the, to do the show because Rob Sieg, I saw they had the apparatus. Now we started with radio and our Facebook page, right. But Rob picked us up, I think at the end of the first week. But I got the idea, Ben, seeing all you guys, all the talent that was down there and these working class Hispanics. And less than 90 days later, we launched the war. It's called Warhammer impeachment. But I knew right away, I said, man, the stories we could tell, and these people are our voters, that the second time in 20, you know, this time is going to be in 2020 when President Trump, when President Trump wins because we had just lost the midterms. We lost the midterms. Nancy Pelosi, who's going to impeach me. But more importantly, her number one priority is impeaching Trump. Her number two priority was no border wall. This was so totemic for them. This is where the fight was. No border wall. So it was incredible. Ben, hang on. I'm going to hold you through the break and come back and talk to you some more. Ben Berkwam down in at the Sunland New Mexico. It's right there at the Rio Grande where, where you got El Paso and Juarez and there's some bad hombres down there. Birchgold.com end of the dollar empire. Now more than ever, we're going to break down this budget. I'm going to start this afternoon tomorrow show. And we're live where we're at CPAC this week. But go check out 989-898-Bannon get investing.

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