Episode 4280: Live From Force Multiplier

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4280: Live From Force Multiplier

Release Date: February 19, 2025

Hosted by Stephen K. Bannon of WarRoom.org, Episode 4280 of Bannon's War Room delves deep into the current political landscape, focusing on the strategies and movements propelling the MAGA agenda forward. Broadcast live from the Force Multiplier Academy at National Harbor Gaylord, the episode features key contributors including Dave Brat, Alex DeGrasse, Caroline Wren, Bill McGinley, and Grace Chong. The discussion navigates through electoral strategies, grassroots activism, the role of the administrative state, and future political plans.

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1. Opening Remarks and Political Climate

The episode kicks off with Steve Bannon setting a combative tone towards mainstream media, accusing networks of deceit:

"All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it." [00:01]

Dave Brat emphasizes the inevitability of change, urging listeners to reflect on their purpose:

"Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved." [00:33]

2. Electoral Strategy and Successes

Dave Brat commends Alex DeGrasse for his pivotal role in flipping key congressional seats, highlighting the meticulous planning that led to retaining control of the House:

"If we didn't flip those seats that we flipped this past cycle, we didn't flip enough, but we flipped what we needed to. We absolutely would have lost the House." [03:16-04:01]

Alex DeGrasse underscores the impact of strategic redistricting and voter pressure:

"The power of pressure on redistricting. I mean, it was huge." [03:45]

3. Challenges with Voting in California

A critical discussion unfolds around the prolonged vote-counting process in California, which Dave Brat questions:

"What happened when all those votes got flipped after the election in California?... Why take 30 days?" [09:37-09:50]

Alex DeGrasse addresses the deficiencies in California’s voting safeguards, advocating for federal intervention:

"We need a very sustained federal [action]. And I think we will, because I know it's a top concern..." [10:16-11:14]

4. Grassroots Activism and Individual Agency

The conversation shifts to the significance of grassroots movements, with Grace Chong highlighting the emergence of self-organized groups like Moms for Liberty:

"Charlie Kirk was in an elevator as an 18 year old and said I'm going to start my own grassroots movement...precinct strategy did. What the war Room posse did." [19:10]

Dave Brat reinforces the importance of individual initiative in building a resilient political movement:

"It starts with you. It starts with one person." [25:33]

5. Role of Voter Registration and Precinct Strategy

Grace Chong provides actionable strategies for voter registration, illustrating the gap between perceived and actual registration rates in churches:

"They would say, oh, 70% easy. He would say...it was 30%, 35% every single time." [35:10]

Scott Pressler discusses the mechanics of voter registration and its impact on election outcomes:

"Registering voters is how you put people on the board...nobody's better at that than Scott is." [23:07]

6. Administrative State and Executive Orders

A pivotal segment focuses on President Trump’s executive order aimed at consolidating executive power and curbing the independence of administrative agencies. Dave Brat elaborates on the constitutional implications:

"Donald John Trump is the chief executive officer of the United States government...they report to the President." [51:20-52:39]

Bill McGinley praises the executive order as a significant step toward reclaiming executive authority:

"One of the most consequential things that the President has done...rein in a lot of these." [49:02-52:39]

7. Future Political Plans and Legislative Agenda

Looking ahead, the hosts discuss the impending legislative battles, including the anticipated Days of Thunder campaign and the push for comprehensive bills encompassing tax cuts and border security. Dave Brat outlines the strategic priorities:

"We're going to have a great, great pro Trump candidate that will run...all of it has to be shut down, taken apart, defunded." [39:42-41:34]

Grace Chong emphasizes the ongoing efforts to increase voter registration within religious communities as a cornerstone for future electoral victories:

"With 501C3, you can register voters...replicate and do that out in rural America and out in your community." [35:10-36:20]

8. Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

The episode concludes with a collective affirmation of the movement's resilience and the strategies in place to ensure continued political success. Caroline Wren invokes the power of faith in the conservative movement, urging listeners to engage actively:

"If we get the church...we will own this thing." [32:43-34:27]

Dave Brat wraps up by highlighting the achievements of the past months and setting the stage for the upcoming strategic initiatives:

"The first 30 days of Days of Thunder have been amazing. Every day is like Christmas Day." [47:54-49:02]

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Notable Quotes

• Steve Bannon: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." [00:01]

• Dave Brat: "Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved." [00:33]

• Alex DeGrasse: "The power of pressure on redistricting. I mean, it was huge." [03:45]

• Grace Chong: "We have to replicate and do that out in rural America and out in your community." [35:10]

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Key Takeaways

1. Electoral Integrity: Addressing and rectifying vulnerabilities in the voting process, especially in states like California, is crucial for maintaining political control.

2. Grassroots Mobilization: Individual agency and grassroots efforts are the backbone of the MAGA movement, enabling significant political shifts and electoral successes.

3. Administrative Reforms: Consolidating executive power and curbing the independence of administrative agencies are seen as pivotal moves to align government actions with the elected President’s agenda.

4. Community Engagement: Enhancing voter registration and engagement within religious and local communities is essential for sustaining and expanding political influence.

5. Future Strategies: The movement is preparing for extensive legislative battles and plans to capitalize on the groundwork laid in the recent political campaigns to secure future victories.

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This episode of Bannon's War Room serves as both a reflection on past achievements and a blueprint for future actions within the MAGA movement, emphasizing the importance of strategic planning, grassroots engagement, and political reform to ensure sustained influence and success.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

[Dave Brat]

Christians not got a free shot on.

[Steve Bannon]

All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[Dave Brat]

It's going to happen.

[Alex DeGrasse]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Dave Brat]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Go.

[Dave Brat]

Welcome. It's Wednesday.

[Caroline Wren]

I knew, I knew if we did.

[Dave Brat]

This, I knew if we did this live today, we'd get a very rowdy tip of the spear crowd here. So I want to thank you for our audience in the War room. It's Wednesday the 19th of February, year of our Lord 2025. We're here at National Harbor Gaylord, the Gaylord complex, which essentially hates maga. Let's be honest, you get stink eye all the way around. This is our last here at the Gaylord. So it's CPAC next year. I think they're going to announce and I'll get. I think it's moving to Texas. Right? Who would not want to spend late. Who would not want to spend late February, early March in Texas. So our last year at the Gaylord we're going to have, we have for everybody going to watch. Are people still coming in? Because we know a lot of people coming this afternoon or tomorrow. We're going to broadcast from a different location. Today's just set up to have the force multiplier. Really want to thank everybody showing up early. We decided to try to start at nine. I've got my, my co host. They're going to be in and out. Can I give it up for Dave Brad. Congressman Dave Brad, our resident theologian and of course, Caroline Wren. Caroline Wren, I'm really glad, Caroline, I'm so glad you made the cpac. You know, I haven't seen a lot of you in the last six months. Caroline's actually been auditioning for Below Decks, the Below Deck series. But I hope that works out. Hope that works out. Hope that works out for you, Greg. Caroline, thanks for, thanks for coming back to cpac. Let's give it up for Caroline, our other co host. I didn't realize 11 years of the least Stefanic.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah.

[Dave Brat]

Alex Degrasse. The great Alex Degrasse. Fascinating. I went back and looked the report you gave us last year on the congressional seats. That. That's kind of what gave. Gave us the House. We held the House.

[Alex DeGrasse]

That was the entire ball game.

[Dave Brat]

Everything he remember.

[Bill McGinley]

He.

[Dave Brat]

I don't remember. In force multiplier in the afternoon, you walked through a detail of what was in play, what had to be done, and it came down to literally the seats that you in North Carolina and the seats in California, in New York. So and the fights, remember, you guys, were the reason we have North Carolina and had Tennessee and had Florida and these congressional realignments was because in Louisiana, because of the war in Posse. So that shows you once again the.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Power of pressure on redistricting. I mean, it was huge. And if we didn't flip those seats that we flipped this past cycle, we didn't flip enough, but we flipped what we needed to. We absolutely would have lost the House. We would have had that. What we feared, right, that President Trump and everything would have been lost. I mean, to be.

[Dave Brat]

Think of days, the last 30 days with Hakeem Jeffries, the Speaker of the.

[Alex DeGrasse]

House, to be nothing. There would be nothing. So that's what we're here to talk.

[Dave Brat]

To you about today. We. I mean, that's, that's reality. A question, Alex, I didn't realize this Elise Stefanik, you've worked for her for 11 years. You were there in her first campaign. She's going to the glamorous United Nations, New York City. And Alex, you're. You're going back to your grassroots. Why you're not going to the UN and all the glamour.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Well, I'm not sure the UN would let me in, but I understand that, you know, the, the fight at hand is really this House, the Senate we feel great about. I think Caroline, we'll get into that. We'll pick up. But the House is almost the full ballgame. President Trump's team knows that. You know, I've been proud to have had a role in leadership. So sort of what David mentioned, I've been in some of those rooms. It's very challenging and sort of tough times. I've learned a lot, but now I'll take what I'll learn. We've got some news later in a month or so. We're working on big plans to get everyone involved. And I look forward to helping in the trenches and making sure that we can raise the funds, put that, put the fight out there and really take the grassroots to the next level to make sure that we can win.

[Dave Brat]

So, so you're, and we'll talk about this over the next four days. Alex is going to go and use his skill set and try to get a platform that since Elise is going, you're going to get a platform that's more directly tied directly to the grassroots. That's that one, Congressman. So, Alex, and of course, Bill McGinley. Bill, for the audience, now that we're nationwide and throughout the world, I want to go back. You know, I thought that in President Trump's victory, it would come at 5 o'clock in the morning, it would come at 2 o'clock the next afternoon, it would come at 5:00 on Thursday. And that this is, we would have to, they would try to be stealing it in courthouses like they did last time. What was the difference? Why was it different this time? Besides, by the way, besides outvoting them, what else took place to make sure that this time we were pretty confident, as confident as we could be. Although it's not perfect. It's not paper ballots, not game day votes. There's still too many machines, Right. Although let me say for the record, I'm not a machine guy, but Michael and I know you guys are, I know you are. Mike Lindell's coming this afternoon. What was, what was the difference in 24 and 20?

[Bill McGinley]

The strategy to turn out the vote early? I think for the campaign to bank the vote, if you remember a lot of times we talked about in the lead up to the election, get out there and vote early, let us know that you voted and make sure that you're turning out 5 to 10 of your friends, families and neighbor, family members and neighbors, that you're the force multiplier as the name of this academy is that, I think was one of the biggest differences. But then also the volunteer efforts like you did in terms of the polling places, but also where they count the absentee ballots to make sure that we had eyes, ears and presence in that room. Because it's amazing what a deterrent is to have physical bodies in the room where this is happening. It really does act as a deterrent. And I also think that there were many opportunities that developed, especially in Pennsylvania. And I've said this to a lot of people. I think Bucks county, when we had our maga, MAGA was standing in line and the Democratic machine was slow walking the ballot process to make it as painful as possible for MAGA to draft, to fill out their ballots, cast them and put them in. And we went in and sued to keep those polling places open. And I think one of the differences, and I don't think the Democrats or the progressive dark money network really thought that we were willing to do that. But one of the things that we always look for. How do we make your life better in terms of voting? Right. Every time we have an election, you see how the Democrats are always looking at their voters. How are we going to keep the polling hours open even though there's really not a need? Right. How. How are we going to delay the vote Right. Until something's going to happen? Bucks county was a real game changer in my mind because it put us on the side.

[Dave Brat]

It also showed that you guys had fight.

[Bill McGinley]

Yeah.

[Dave Brat]

Right. For too long. We've rolled over for too long. We haven't been aggressive. We showed from Whatley in the campaign and everybody that, hey, we're going to contest every district, we're going to contest every vote. And that's the way you win. Right. They see softness, they'll just run the tables on you.

[Bill McGinley]

That's right. But what are the important.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah.

[Bill McGinley]

And Scott Pressler did. I mean, the Def Penn Penny team. Yes. And I want to thank you, Carolyn. I want to make sure that he gets a lot of credit for what he did. But I want to say this. There are many opportunities that we have that we have to take advantage of when we can say that we're on the side of angels. When we are on the side of angels. And that is what Bucks county was. We dared the Democratic political machine shut down the polling places where you've made it so difficult for MAGA to vote and see how that looks. And the judge agreed right away. Gave us full relief, everything that we asked for. And we were able to drive our voters do GOTV to get them there so that they could cast their ballots.

[Dave Brat]

By the way, where's Ben Berkwam? Ben, say today's totally interactive, right. We're going to be going into the audience. In fact, Ben, just let's pick somebody. Somebody want to ask a question. I want to ask a direct question to somebody here on the. On the. Okay. I'm going to start cold calling people right there. There we go.

[Caroline Wren]

I knew.

[Dave Brat]

Hold it. I knew it would be a woman. Guys, come on. What happened with all the votes that got flipped after the election?

[Bill McGinley]

Which one?

[Dave Brat]

Ask a question again because we're on tv. I want to make sure they hear it. What happened when all those votes got flipped after the election in California? California. Yeah. There was this whole process of. There was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why, as a substance, that. Why take 30 days? Sure. And why is it every time it takes longer? They do better, they win, they do better.

[Alex DeGrasse]

So I was unfortunately involved in that. And I remember I came on, seems like I need the worst case. I need the best case.

[Bill McGinley]

I.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Come on, you guys were hammering me in the comments, like, Alex, we're getting. I said, well, hold it.

[Dave Brat]

It kept getting worse every day. And the House. There was a moment, correct me if I'm wrong, there's a moment that the House. I mean, you were confident, but it was hanging in the balance.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah, certainly.

[Dave Brat]

And everything depended up taking the House.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Right. I mean, we hit the worst case, which, you know, was not good. Of course. And I mean, it's. It's really. Because I talked about in the show, I mean, the California laws, it's the state laws. They control this the way they have their laws, they have the war. It works in New York. It's no rules. I mean, it's no postmarks. It's ballots can. I mean, they actually. I mean, of course it's illegal, but they actually can produce ballots after the fact. There's zero safeguard on it. I mean, you could say, oh, I forgot to mail it a week later and then go drive it and hand it in. So it's the worst holder for.

[Dave Brat]

There's no. The ballot does not have to be in a federal post office. Mark, Mark. Like before midnight.

[Alex DeGrasse]

I think that the. And I'm not a lawyer, Right. I'm an operative that's been, you know, doing all this. But we need a very sustained federal. And I think we will, because I know it's a top concern because the amount of seats that are controlled, if anyone's from California, I mean, the whole. Almost the whole ballgame is California and New York. And when you come down to it, that's what decides. I mean, that's how we rip the speakership. Nancy Pelosi, we flipped those seats in California and we flipped those seats in New York, and that's how we took it away from her. So when you look at that. Thank you, guys. You know, when you look at that, it's so important. We need federal action. I think we will win because there's no way you can't have postmarked, you can't be in the right ballot. You don't need the signatures. They don't verify, they don't do anything. They have no auditing of the voting rolls. They've got illegals everywhere on the roll. I mean, we have no idea and these seats are brutal. I mean, you. It's like nine to one, the ballots coming in, as you're talking about, but there is no legal mechanism.

[Dave Brat]

Nine to one, Democrat, big time.

[Alex DeGrasse]

And we can't do it. I mean, the California, they, they did well, when we did flip those seats, they, they were the first to do their credit. The Republicans there, they started ballot harvesting legally, you know, doing the early vote, and that's what kept us in the game. But this past time, they knew and Hakeem's people were all over the ground. I mean, they flooded us. We did the best we could because we don't break the law. I mean, I had. My. Elise's entire staff was down there, and we're legally doing what we can to cure ballots. Right? So that's the other thing is that if a ballot is wrong or there's some type of mistake, they can just go fix it. And that's their rules. And you got to play within the rules. So we did the best we can, but they just had ballots.

[Dave Brat]

Okay, you bring up, you bring up a sore subject. I want to get to another source subject. How do we. Who are believers in the rights of states and the believers in federalism and believers that the Electoral College and their 50 individuals in the states run it.

[Alex DeGrasse]

It.

[Dave Brat]

You just said something a second ago that it. Because places like California, you're never going to change if it's like that. You are implying. We need federal legislation. Federal legislation that's called a mic.

[Bill McGinley]

Federal legislation for federal elections. I agree, and I think so.

[Dave Brat]

How do you.

[Bill McGinley]

But here, but here, here, here's the thing, okay?

[Dave Brat]

How do you convince a maga, how do you convince a state's rights?

[Bill McGinley]

We talked about this all the time. In 24, right? You're going to play by the rules that exist at the time, which means if the Democrats are going to try and do it, they're not going to do it if they suddenly believe it's a disadvantage to them. So flood the zone, use their rules. But when you get into power, correct the rules. Right? We got into power. Now's our opportunity to correct the rules and to make election integrity a very important issue after we get through President Trump's agenda through the month of March, election integrity in 20 should be something that is taken up.

[Dave Brat]

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[Dave Brat]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Thank you. Thank you. You guys, thank you, thank you, thank you. I hate when that happens. Let's keep it up now. And by the way, for the audience at home, this is the early morning crowd. The guys that were out late last night, they're not going to get here till the afternoon, so get even dicier. So it's force multiplier academy. You guys are the tip of the spear. We have a lot of work to go through today about The Days of Thunder supporting President Trump's agenda now. But I want to make sure we keep in perspective of what you achieved and most importantly how you guys achieved it. And to know that there are people here in Washington D.C. associated with the war room that are working this problem 24 7. And so you've got access to resources. You know, you're the, you're like the Special Forces tip of the spear. But you've got a big logistics chain in back you to help. I want to go to Scott Pressler. But what Pressler did and remember he, this, this, this guy was laughed at that for years, right? He's Johnny Appleseed. He's walking around knocking on guys windows and you know, and remember the thing in Gettysburg, it's that little square. He's knocking on guys when I think he's like some terrorist is coming up going to carjack them. Scott changed the architecture of the electorate and that is so important. We have two, we have two big trends helping us. Number one, the nation's clearly moving south. Right? That's why Texas is now projected to be the most populous state by 2020. By 2045. I'm not so sure if I'm a Texan that's a good thing. But I'm saying from Florida to Arizona to Texas, you see the south, what's happening in North Carolina, in South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, there's a shift south. But also it shows you if you're active and you do a Scott Pressler, you can change the makeup of the electorate. Essentially, Scott has made Pennsylvania what I say, the new Ohio en route and he's made New Jersey kind of potentially the new, the New Jersey kind of the new Pennsylvania. Right. Caroline Wren, you and Degrasse the importance of voter registration and what we have to do because we're still at the tip of the spear. Particularly these young people now are finally awakening through podcasts and other things to see MAGA and to see President Trump and they like what they see. His strongest polling comes from people under 39 years old.

[Grace Chong]

Well, Scott Pressler deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I invited him to be here and he said, I can't. I'm registering voters in New Jersey this weekend. So this is why he's so great. But the Republican Party was essentially a cartel controlled by some consultants in Washington D.C. a total top down operation. And it was, it was 23 year olds, 24 year olds who didn't really care about the future of a party, a movement. Hated the Grassroots. And that was really how we were structured for a very long time until I would say after 2020 and ban in the war room blew that up as did. The most important moments are people like Scott Pressler who decided I'm not going to wait on some direction from folks in D.C. i'm going to start walking, I'm going to start walking to door and door, put on social media, get others to join me. It was when Charlie Kirk was in an elevator as an 18 year old and said I'm going to start my own grassroots movement, got someone to fund it. And you cannot overplay what Turning Point USA did. What the precinct strategy did, what the war Room posse did. What Scott Custer did is they said I'm not taking direction or waiting for funding anymore from the Republican National Committee or any of these committees in dc. They don't under, they don't, they hate us, they don't like us. And they went and organized themselves. And the precinct strategy, why that was key is they went in. All of these local GOP groups have been run by the Bush establishment for forever. They ran against them, they primaried them in their local clubs, they activated there and we became a bottom up party. And everyone in this room and others, they took control of their own future, of their own school boards. We had people like Kimberly Fletcher in here said I'm not going to wait anymore. I'm going to organize moms in my community that got fire and grassroots around it and she started a movement across the country. Kimberly's right back there. Kimberly, thank you. The Moms for Liberty and others. That's what we have to do. Organize in your own communities, within your own groups, within your own demographics if that's how you choose and get people activated. And that's what we want to start doing with the posse. Even more than what we are doing is just making this an actual army that will never ever lose an election again.

[Alex DeGrasse]

I just want to give a quick shout out to Luke Mahoney. If you guys remember. We had him on the show. He worked for Scott Presser. He raised millions of dollars for Scott Presser in early vote action. We had him on the show when Steve was away. We did that crazy math equation where we walked through the early vote.

[Dave Brat]

Let's go, let's hear something right now. Out. Let's Scott's heart stand. Stand up. We got tv. Can the cameras. Can we get.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah, we got cnn. We got all our friends here.

[Dave Brat]

Hold it. Is, is, is, is Dhoni here from cnn?

[Alex DeGrasse]

Someone's here.

[Dave Brat]

CNN is CNN is. CNN is in the room.

[Alex DeGrasse]

They were in the room. Absolutely. I don't see them now.

[Dave Brat]

My favorite channel.

[Scott Pressler]

Maybe my mom will finally see me on tv.

[Dave Brat]

Yeah.

[Scott Pressler]

But, yeah, Scott's hard work made it really easy to raise your money.

[Dave Brat]

We got to hear you. Yeah.

[Scott Pressler]

Scott's hard work made it very easy to raise the money. He's working day in, day out. I was just talking to Sydney, who was sitting next to me, about how, how he's so committed to the cause and in his hard work, you know, everyone sees it and they're getting behind him and it's the grassroots getting behind the grassroots. And that is a true force multiplier.

[Dave Brat]

Hold on, hold on. Just talk to us for a second about. I mean, Scott at one point was literally going door to door himself and just knocking on cars that were waiting for lights. I mean, he started this at the very, at the very basic level. Right. And then how did it, how did you guys get it that it metastasized, that you actually changed Florida, you changed Pennsylvania, you changed these states, you changed the architecture of the electorate. Once you've got that, then the grassroots can deliver. Then it's about get out the vote and voter integrity. Those are the three people pieces. But changing the electorate, the architecture of it is incredibly hard because it's the hardest. It's, you know, a lot of people find it boring. It's just tough. How did Scott do it?

[Scott Pressler]

Well, I think Scott goes where Republicans are and registers, registers them to vote. And as Bill was talking about, when we have a mail in vote that's been cast, we can take that person off the board.

[Dave Brat]

Right.

[Scott Pressler]

When we're trying to get people out to vote. Well, registering voters is how you put people on the board. And nobody's better at that than Scott is.

[Bill McGinley]

Yeah.

[Alex DeGrasse]

And I mean, look, and what Luke did, because he's. He'll be modest, but what's amazing about Scott is there's really only a few people. You get those annoying texts and emails. You know, everyone's sending them on the Republican Party. I mean, they weaponized Scott's name and people responded and donated in massive amounts. I mean, this thing was millions of dollars of grassroots funding. Luke played a big role in that. But the reality is it's Scott's name and the people stood with him. It's fascinating and amazing to see how someone built that up and then produce the results because it's so important when you put our new people on the board, you get them to vote, you get them off the board. That's just a plus one, plus two plus three in the bank. That's the key. That's how we win. I think we'll definitely win New Jersey too, by the way.

[Bill McGinley]

But I think one of the other points that I want to make that we Talked about in 2024, there's nothing more powerful than a volunteer army in elections. Yes, right. There's nothing more powerful. The Democrats may have a two billion dollar dark money infrastructure out there trying to control the media, doing opposition research, Faux News sites, you know, doing all of their different, different tactics and, and strategies that they're trying to do to cancel people, to silence people, to disincentivize you from voting and try and pump up their turnout. But there's nothing more powerful than what you guys did in 2024. You turned out, you tuned out the noise and you focused on the task at hand, which was a victory for President Trump and making sure that he had a Republican Congress. And that was you. That was people like Scott Pressler and the army that he was developing. That was a whole approach. Charlie Kirk and everybody else. And that's what I think people failed to grasp or acknowledge as often as we should. 2024 really was a whole of movement effort and everybody was working the way that they should.

[Dave Brat]

Here's one of the last. The lessons are that with Scott Pressler, it starts with one person. Kimberly Kim. It starts with one person. Dan Schultz, the precinct strategy. One person. Right. The Moms for Liberty. One or two people. Right. It starts with you. This ideas have consequences. If you have the idea, you have a support network here and a basically a nationwide information network that we're talking over the next couple days of how we make that more integrated, more active, we drive more messages. But it starts with human agency. It starts with one person.

[Steve Bannon]

Charlie Kirk in the elevator.

[Dave Brat]

I'll start this student thing. I actually sat in one of Charlie's first presentations to a wealthy donor. It sucked, right. He was awful, right. And look what he's become today. By the way, Andrew Breitbart. One of the reasons I learned about media is Andrew Breitbart one time, the first time he did a media hit, he gets all ready, he's doing a media hit and a guy asking the follow on question and he froze on radio. He said later he didn't know the guy was going to ask questions that weren't in the thing. So Andrew would stand on his basketball court, go back and forth and do radio. Talk radio, remember blog talk radio. He would do a hundred of those shows a Day just doing reps. Doing reps. Charlie did the same thing. Dan Schultz, I think he worked for 15 years in the precinct strategy before it caught fire in 2021. Right. Scott Pressler. So it comes down to individual human agency. But just understand you've got a network in back of you that can help you move the needle. You're not alone in this. Carolyn.

[Grace Chong]

I was going to add, one of the reasons you've watched the show for a while I went on such a jihad against the RNC and Rana was that I was working for the time. There was two people that were banned from speaking at the rnc, Scott Pressler and Charlie Kirk. Why? Why would Ron, I just remember looking at saying what? What are you talking about?

[Dave Brat]

Oh, they were. They were banned. They were banned, yeah.

[Grace Chong]

This is why I went on a GI against her and was like, harmony, someone has to run against this. This monster is the word I'm going to use because she was so terrified. Because it takes her money.

[Dave Brat]

Right.

[Grace Chong]

They want money to run their television ads and pay their friends. And the people like Scott Pressler and Charlie Kirk were such a threat to the establishment consultant culture in Washington D.C. we literally had to. They were banned from RNC events and so that's where I would just be tied them all. Go do this on your own.

[Dave Brat]

You ran. It was Harmy Dylan, right?

[Grace Chong]

Yes.

[Dave Brat]

Who's now the AT doj. She's in charge.

[Grace Chong]

I dinner with her last night. She's in Civil Rights Division.

[Dave Brat]

She's in charge of the Civil Rights Division, one of the most powerful positions.

[Grace Chong]

And her confirmation hearing is next Wednesday.

[Dave Brat]

If you see the people that have come up through the ranks on the war room and all your grassroots and where they are today, that shows you in the next next waves are going to be even more important. It's all, it's all back to you guys, right? It's really back to you. Yeah, yeah.

[Grace Chong]

Well, she's now selling crypto coins. If you look at her Twitter account.

[Dave Brat]

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[Dave Brat]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. You're back in the war room. We're live here at Force Multiplier Academy. I think, I think it's the third time we've done Grace. Chong, tuck it in. Right here, Grace. Right here, Grace. So the logistics are after the live show today, we're going to have a short break and get your lunches. It's a working lunch back here. And Grace is going to start about 12:15 with what?

[Alex DeGrasse]

Social media. And we'll go through how to be an effective force multiplier as well as using Bill Blaster. And if you guys download the new version, you'll see the recent builds.

[Dave Brat]

There's been a lot of changes and.

[Alex DeGrasse]

It'S all very exciting.

[Dave Brat]

Mouth breathing imbecile.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yes, yes.

[Dave Brat]

I brought my cat. Mouth breathing imbecile. The queen of the trolls is gonna run. It's always good. The queen, Grace comes in a little hot on social media. She and Mike Davis late at night, just like lay off It. Grace, thank you so much. 12:15. Grace is going to have the whole team up here to make sure you guys make sure all you boomers are more effective on social media. Let's hear it for Grace Chong. She keeps the war room going. Brett, Caroline, I want to talk. You got something to say, Brett?

[Grace Chong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Caroline Wren]

I had a few Liberty folks come up at the break, and people always encourage me bring up the power of the church when we're talking about the whole of the conservative movement. And so I just want. Yesterday on the show, Steve brought out the importance of policy. And I never would have thought policy could affect the faith. But if you see what Obama and Biden have done to this country over the past 12 years, etcetera, it has changed the soul of America, right, in a dark, dark direction. And so the good news is we can reverse all that. And so now the NGOs are going down, the USAIDS are going down. We're making progress. We can. Trump brought up the power of faith in his last speech in a powerful new way. There is room there for us to turn around, right? The Catholic Church is taking a look at some of its issues the Protestant churches are taking a look at, and you all need to be in on it. If we get the church, and I mean, not, not just the Christians, but the Muslims, the Jewish, the African American church, and we will own this thing.

[Dave Brat]

But hang on, hang here, by the way. So keep your seats, guys, and just raise your hands, we'll go around because if it gets blocked up over there.

[Steve Bannon]

People are not gonna be able to see.

[Dave Brat]

And we get more as, as this crowd sobers up, more people are gonna show up. Hang on for a second. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. By the way, the Catholic Church announced this morning that they're going to sue. They're suing Catholic churches, suing President Trump for cutting off the money on their, on their, on their invasion. And I say that as a Catholic. They gotta go. It's horrible. But here's the question. I'm coming right to you in a second, Ben. Hang on, here's a question. Is there 40 million professed Christians, I mean, actual church going Christians that don't vote in this country, that don't vote. Right.

[Caroline Wren]

There's a hunt. The last election was roughly 70 million to 70 million, right? I mean, just crudely, there's 100 million religious people in this country. And Jerry Falwell Sr. Going way back, had the Moral Majority. He had all the religious groups, every, the iconic African American church, the Jewish Community, everybody. I went to Princeton Seminary.

[Dave Brat]

They're a little woke right now.

[Caroline Wren]

So we got to get our Episcopalians and Tucker Carlson and all the President Presbyterians back on the right team.

[Dave Brat]

Right?

[Caroline Wren]

So you all need to do that working through the church. And so let me. I just want to say a little prayer to God on the war room in front of the world. And so just bow your heads for 10 seconds. Dear God, our Father in heaven, we are so thankful for what you have done, for giving us grace, for giving us a way forward now.

[Dave Brat]

Help us to be the agents of.

[Caroline Wren]

Your change as we change this country, save this republic. Thank you for Steve Bannon and all he's done. Give power back to the church. Pray all this in your name.

[Dave Brat]

Amen.

[Caroline Wren]

Go get him. Go get him.

[Dave Brat]

I do want to thank Brad, and I think we got to invite him to President Trump's next inauguration after he wins in 2028. CNN, suck on that. Okay. I'm glad you came. No, no, because the benediction last time, right? That seven or eight minute is too much. It's got to be a minute. God hears you. God sees your heart. Caroline Wren.

[Grace Chong]

We are massively under registered in our churches. And since we want today to be about things you can go home and do. One of the most fascinating things that I saw is Charlie Kirk started turning Point Faith, and he went around to different pastors and said, how much of your congregation do you think is registered? Every time they would say, oh, 70% easy. He would say, please, would you give me a list of your congregation? I'm not going to share with anyone. I'm going to run it up against the voter roll and then give it back to you and tell you. He did this multiple times. It was 30%, 35% every single time. He would say, can I pay for a lunch every Sunday until you're a voter registration drive to. Until you get to 70%. And that is what you. Something you can take home and go and do. What people don't realize is that with 501C3, you can register voters. You cannot ask people how they're going to vote or do a specific party, but something you can go home and do is offer to host a lunch every Sunday. That's a voter registration drive. Get a few others, fundraising, you know, to get some money together, have voter registration forms. Do that every Sunday until you think that your church is reaching that 70% threshold, because I guarantee you they are around 30 and 40%. And what the Democrats did a very good job of is they went Around, I think they have 150% registration rate at African American churches and inner cities. And that is how they sort of weaponize that. And we have to replicate and do that out in rural America and out in your community. So that's something to take home and do from this force multiplier academy.

[Dave Brat]

That's, that's a, this is a party. Ben Verquam.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah.

[Ben Berkwam]

So I can I just touch on that real quick? So we, part of why we won the election was because what they did on the southern border and the invasion of our southern border and the biggest part of that, that are these NGOs.

[Dave Brat]

That were behind it.

[Ben Berkwam]

The United Nations, UNHCR, OIM, Catholic Charities, Lutheran Social Services, Jewish Family Services. And we just got word that Jewish Family Services has no one coming to their facilities in San Diego because of President Trump.

[Dave Brat]

Praise the Lord. But I'm going to talk about this later.

[Ben Berkwam]

But the biggest thing we can do, we have to infiltrate these organizations. We have to expose them for what they are, the demons that they are.

[Dave Brat]

Well, now in Catholic Charities, I think this morning just announced they're suing President Trump for cutting them off the fund. They said, hey, we can't make it without money. Exactly. That's right. Right. That's right.

[Alex DeGrasse]

All of it.

[Dave Brat]

But you shouldn't take second collection money. You're definitely not going to get taxpayer money.

[Scott Pressler]

Amen.

[Dave Brat]

Ben, who we got there? All right.

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, by the way, he's, I think he's feeling.

[Dave Brat]

Look at, look at this.

[Ben Berkwam]

Look at this guy. It's Steve Bannon Jr.

[Dave Brat]

I'm a Steve Bannon decoy. Bill. I'm here from the People's Republic of New York with my wife Patty. And, and my question is to Alex.

[Bill McGinley]

What's the plan for Elise's seat?

[Dave Brat]

I'm in. I'm from Saratoga County. So is there a plan and what Hold. I didn't see it. Turn around to the camera. That's the whole alpha questioning. My wisdom is coming as a Steve Bannon decoy in Washington, D.C. the three pen, the three pens is a code. You should know that. I want you to know. I had four pens earlier and I was corrected before I even got in the door.

[Alex DeGrasse]

So, Alex, I mean, great to see people Saratoga county, we got Franklin county, we got a lot of upstate New York people here, which is really sort of the heart of Trump country, the cradle of the revolution. Right. That we're so proud of in upstate New York. So at least to see it's going to be all okay. We've Got great candidates. We're working with President Trump. They've got a Democrat. I don't know if you've seen our ads. I did that ad. We're burying this guy as a total fool. Caught him on tape disparaging local workers, saying he only wants to hire Hispanics. Hired illegal immigrants. Bailed one out of ICE called correctional officers, which are our number one employer. Workers without any self worth. Said young children in upstate New York can't think for themselves, don't have good thinking, only wants to hire Mexicans. I mean, this stuff is crazy. So we're going to work on a candidate. It's better that they have a candidate and we're just burying this person than when we have a candidate. So the White House, President Trump, police, they're all going to get on the same page. We're going to have a great, great pro Trump candidate that will run. I will be staying back to make sure everything's fine. Done six races up there. Five races. So I'm not. We're not worried about it. It's all going to be good.

[Dave Brat]

Just the process. When's the primary and when's the general.

[Alex DeGrasse]

So as of now, I mean, yeah, so there is news, right. Kathy Hogle claims she's using that as a leverage. She will see us in court if she tries to play with any of this law, that's for sure. And when, I mean court, I think the Trump doj, we're certainly recommending that they look at this stuff because it's absolutely. Rico, whatever it's called, rico. I'm sorry. There you go. But it's, as of now, 90 days from when she punches out, and when she punches out will of course, depend on the House and the vote and President Trump. So all there's a lot of mechanics here. We just have to be calm. It's all going to be taken care of. I'll be there to make sure everything's fine. I'll move up there in an econ lodge and we'll hammer back out because I'm down here. So it's all going to be good.

[Dave Brat]

Is. Is Elisa's first act as UN Ambassador is to get us out of the Global Compact on Migration.

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave Brat]

How bad? How bad has that been? You and Oscar Blu Ramirez have dealt with that now for years.

[Ben Berkwam]

It is the Trojan horse that has gotten millions of illegals not just into our country, but into Europe as well. The jihad you see in Europe is all behind the weaponization of the global compact of migration. Everything you see coming up but it all goes back to the United nations. Unhcr, oim. All of that has to be disbanded, taken apart, defunded.

[Dave Brat]

Yeah.

[Alex DeGrasse]

I mean, people think, you know, look, the UN's not always @ the forefront of conservatives in our mind, but really they have a lot of power, they've got a lot of issues. I mean it's really bad. And it's a great honor that my boss was chosen to do that because President Trump trusts her like she did on the colleges and the anti Semitism, the di. I mean she's going to go in there and she's going to crush these people. I mean, and she's got a mandate from President Trump. They've got big plans. I can't spoil some of this. I've. But people are going to be have a lot of issues. I mean, we're coming after them very hard for what they've done to the country and to the free world in the West.

[Dave Brat]

Do we recommend that Doge. Maybe they next stop is un.

[Caroline Wren]

Yes.

[Dave Brat]

And they're.

[Alex DeGrasse]

And they're working on that as well.

[Dave Brat]

We can bring Elise back into the cabinet and give her another power position. Right, but we. Should we not defund the un?

[Alex DeGrasse]

Yes.

[Dave Brat]

And remember the structure, how this works is that Elise is the ambassador of the United Nations. She's in New York where the Security Council is and all the intense high level negotiations go. But, but the engine room where it really takes place is in Geneva. We have another ambassador that's not called an ambassador, but used to be Bremberg. You go there, that's where the World Health Organization is. That's where the education, that's where the Chinese Communist Party has its own hooks in all these. And that's all got to be shut down. We ought to be. Should we be out of the World Health Organization support President Trump? Absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

All of it, UNESCO, all of them.

[Alex DeGrasse]

It's a huge intelligence proxy operation. And that's really what I can say. And it's like Steve said, all communist Chinese. It's as I've learned about it because it wasn't something I focused much on. It's really wild. So we'll get that done. I think that will be taken care of and we'll handle the scene. Everything will be great.

[Dave Brat]

Okay, I want to pivot for a second. And Bill, you're, you're going to talk about deregulation and I know Ren, you and Brad have something. It's celebratory here over the next four days. Right. There's some announcements already. I think Vice President Vance is going to speak on Friday. I think it's Friday, right? Some other big names, you know, Match Lap and Mercedes are Mercy are putting out more and more big names, so it's definitely celebratory. We're going to have some gathering gatherings, etc. But the key to this, the reason we're doing Force Multiply Academy and get into the technical part of it, the hard part is just starting right now. You know, President Trump just came out a few minutes ago, Steve Scalicious gave an interview. He supported the House version of the reconciliation. So it's going to be one big beautiful bill sometime in July, right? I know they're saying May, July, August, August, that's going to be the mother of all fights, right? And realistically, that's going to be a tiny bit like an omnibus. It just is, because they're doing it one fell swoop. The tax cuts will be in there, the, the the the border security will be in there, the new border. So Homan's got to figure out somehow how to bootstrap this, because we're at the debt ceiling. We've got that fight, we've got all we got the huge fight on the 14th for the for the continued resolution, how we fund it, right? President Trump's then got all types of legislation that's now going to be putting in through here. In back of that, we have a you know, we have a fight for at least the next year that every week is going to be a tractor poll, right, to get this agenda through because you can see the resistance. You know, Natalie's going to be here in the next hour to talk about the color revolution, to talk about how the smartly they're in court. They've got you know, they've got these judges, these federal judges, they've got the New York City situation, the Manhattan situation. So everywhere you look, we're going to have a fight to ram through this agenda, to then be able to position ourselves to have an argument in 26 to do all the logistics of that now, voter registration, precinct strategy, all of it, voter integrity to be ready for the big fight in 26. But that's predicated what we do now Short commercial break Back in the War Room with the force multiplier academy, what.

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[Dave Brat]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And thank you for coming early, Dave. We're doing the, for the folks at home, we're doing. This is not where we're going to broadcast over the next couple days. We actually have a, another location at CPAC and I have to be 100 upfront on this. Okay. You know, for years and years, the war room posse came and we were on media row right outside and they gave us a special place where everybody comes in the complaints from inside the room and then from the hotel. So essentially I'd like to say that we worked through with Rob Sig and Parker Sig, a great team of Real Americans voices set this up that we actually got. We got a great venue, but we were essentially banned. Right. Because of you, because you're too loud. So they gave us a choice. We could either do noise abatement or we could get another. Other spaces down there near Megyn Kelly where everybody's going to do podcasts. I said, I came over here last week with our production team and I said we'll take this space downstairs because I know how you guys get rowdy and you want to get rowdy every day. So. So we're going to be doing four hours of broadcast every day from another location. You guys will love it. It's going to be intense. We're here to both celebrate and to focus on the year ahead. And I really want to thank Harry and the Real Americans Voice team for throwing this up overnight. So we do this last year we did the shows, we did the shows at the Worm. They came here and said, hey, I think, you know, we'll get, we'll get a smattering of people early and we did. It was great for the super hardcores right here that came out and everybody. So I want to spend the next two segments going through the work we have ahead to give these folks a heads up. Now, you're going to hear speeches, you're going to breakout sessions in cpac. We're going to be doing a thing. We're talking about what's ahead. But the first 30 days of days of Thunder have been amazing. Correct. Every day is like Christmas Day. Let me start with this. So McKinley, last night, the lead story on Daily Mail. If you go to my getter, you'll see it. President Trump signed an executive order yesterday. That's something we have talked about and worked on for years. He basically said the administrative state, the Alphabet agency, make it clear. They report to the President, states, this is that theory of the unitary executive. Right? And this is going to. It's caused their heads already blown up. They're saying it's a power grab. He's a dictator. What happened here and why is it important for us to force this issue through?

[Bill McGinley]

I think it's one of the most significant EOs that the President has signed because one of the things that the administrative state has tried to do is tried to rely on their state status as an independent agency to kind of go their own way, even if it's contrary to the President of the United States agenda. And I think with that executive order vesting, OMB and oira, which is the component of OMB that reviews regulations, et cetera, by making sure that they understand that they're pulled underneath that, to follow the will of the American people through their elected president, to set the tone, to set the agenda that has set the personnel in the executive branch, I think is one of the most consequential things that the President has done. And so I think it's going to rein in a lot of these and I think there will be resistance. And that's okay, because one of the things that we're seeing is the deep state, their dark money allies, they're dark money overlords, and everybody else is terrified of, number one, the transparency that's coming. And number two, the fact that President Trump is exerting control over the Article 2 departments and agencies.

[Dave Brat]

So this is an Article 2 issue. This is a constitutional issue. But when we say the Alphabet agencies, the administrative state, not only is he reinforcing that, the, that the ca, that the, the cabinet secretaries report to him and specifically remember he's chief executive officer by the Constitution of the United States of America, Chief Executive and his has full executive authority. Okay. They report to him. Number two is that he is the commander in chief of the Uniform Armed Services. And that means the Pentagon reports directly to him and people in the Pentagon. Right. Number three, he's the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer of the country. And that means the Department of Justice and the FBI reports to the President of the United States. This is since Watergate and Watergate is not Bob Woodward. It's not, it's not like you think happened. What happened was exactly what they tried to do to Trump President TRUMP in, in 19. It was a. It was a radical judge, Judge Sirica over at the D.C. federal court, working with House staff, working with the Justice Department. Radical things. This was a judiciary coup d'etat that took Nixon out. Right. And they've tried to do it again. This is why ever since then, they for medically sealed the Justice Department, the FBI away from him. That's why this fight of the unitary executive. It's also to tell guys like Brennan and the CIA, hey, you know, the CIA reports to the President United States. It's not your own independent agency. And your background checks of the FBI are not going to sit there and knock people out. The deep state wants control. Now, in addition, the administrative state, the Alphabet agencies that have so metastasized, the sec, the sec, the Federal Trade Commission, the sec, NIH and all of Fauci and Collins, that whole apparatus, right. They have felt for years that they're totally independent entities and they really kind of quasi. They report to themselves, they go to Congress for funding. But I remember in 16 in the transition, they didn't want to really hear. Peter Thiel and Blake Masters had this whole idea of kind of doing a DOGE thing at the time. They were just blown off. Right. By the administration of state. Are those in this executive order last night, Donald John Trump is very clear. I'm the chief executive officer of the United States government. As the President states, you report to the office of the President, you report to the president, Bill McKinley. Is that essentially where we are?

[Bill McGinley]

Yes, that is exactly where we are. And one of the things to really remember here is one of the reasons why these independent agencies want to claim their independence is because they want to substitute their judgment, their agenda, for that of the President of the United States. The people have elected Donald John Trump to be the 47th President of the United States. Over the last four years. We have seen what happens when the administrative state is allowed to run amok. Is, has no leadership. And the leadership that comes comes from an unidentified unelected staff that controls a president who was never in control of the organs of government. Now, one of the things for history, one of the things that we need to consider is that we are in a historical moment with the election of Donald John Trump as the 47th president. It's been a long time since anybody has actually stepped back and looked at all of the departments and agencies and said, is this the way that the executive branch should function? The last time that happened was Jimmy Carter with the president with, with the Democrats after the Watergate issue. And I would say that the Biden presidency rises to the level of a question is this the best way to serve the American people?

[Dave Brat]

We'll get into the question. We're going to take a short commercial break and start the second hour. We're getting into the question of authorization. Remember, the way these agencies are set up, they're authorized in five year cycles. I think 80% of them have not been reauthorized. Right. Only the Defense Department. Defense Department makes sure the Defense authorization bills every year. They want to make sure there's many.

[Bill McGinley]

That are holdovers that have gone beyond their terms.

[Dave Brat]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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