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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Jack Posobiec
Christians not got a free shot.
Steve Bannon
All these networks lying about the people.
Jack Posobiec
The people have had a belly full of it.
Steve Bannon
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Jack Posobiec
It's going to happen.
Natalie Winters
And where do people like that go.
Jack Posobiec
To share the big lie?
Natalie Winters
MAGA Media.
Jack Posobiec
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Jack Posobiec
You live in the war room. USA. USA. USA.
Natalie Winters
USA.
Jack Posobiec
It's Wednesday the 19th of February. It's the kickoff day. We always kick off CPAC a day early. We've got the. We've hit force Multiply Academy. Can we have a. Guys, give yourselves a round of applause.
Steve Bannon
Amazing.
Jack Posobiec
Everybody at home. The chats. The chat's on fire. We've got a lot to get through. Jack Bosoba just flown in from Palm beach to join us. Jack was with. Was with. In fact, Jack's been all over. Jack's been at. Jack was in Brussels, in Munich. He went with. I think I read in the paper, Jack somewhere that Hegseth and Scott Besant, they took a, A, A troll, right? Troll. Goes with Pete Hegseth to, to Brussels. Provocateur. Goes with the Secretary of Treasury to Kiev.
Stephen K. Bannon
Reid was a little provoked last night.
Jack Posobiec
They were. She was. We'll play that clip maybe in the 5 o'clock show. She was worked up that Jack pos actually was traveling with the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Treasury.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, what can I say?
Jack Posobiec
Are we on?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, what can I say? It was an absolute honor to have been invited by the Trump administration, by Secretary Hegseth and Secretary Bessant and a responsibility as well, because what this shows, having invited me to Ukraine, where we did end up going all the way into Zelensky's presidential complex, met with President Zelensky, was there when Scott Besant delivered him that deal. That was his chance to be in the room, by the way, if you guys know, in the war room, if you're not in the room, not in the deal. Not in the deal. And he didn't realize the room was.
Jack Posobiec
Going to be in Riyadh.
Stephen K. Bannon
And what I can say, though, look, sorry, not sorry. What I could say is this shows the radical Transparency that this White House is giving you.
Jack Posobiec
They will let, they'll even let Jack.
Stephen K. Bannon
Kobic in the room. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, live tweeting, live tweeting the negotiations as they're going. Hey, he just handed him the deal. Hey, wait, Zelinsky says no deal. Hey, wait, Trump just says he was on the phone for 90 minutes with Vladimir Putin and then that comes out. Guess what? The deal is off the table.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Jack Posobiec
President Trump's a master negotiation. As you know, watching the war room, we're not that excited about the mineral deal because that just gets you involved. Rather just cut and just move on. However, President Trump delivered him a deal. Let's say he didn't sign immediately. Right. I think he threw up. Right. It's a tad. Remember President Trump, President Trump has the American people. And when he says America first, he means America first, right?
Stephen K. Bannon
The term sheet was 50% of the rare earths in Ukraine are now the rare earths of America. And, and then we'll get to the rest of the list. Trump the uranium, we'll talk about the oil and gas deposits. And this guy is sitting there. But Steve, at the end of the day, the question is, and Secretary Bess understood this as well, is, look, if you want to make those questions in Ukraine, you can't talk to Zelinsky. You've got to talk to the real decision maker. And as it turns out, the real decision maker seems like wasn't in that room.
Jack Posobiec
It's a major geostrategic geo economic turn. We're going to talk throughout the day on that to make sure you guys are fully up to speed. I want to, before I go back to our illustrious co host, I want.
Steve Bannon
To introduce that we have a new.
Jack Posobiec
Member of the Kennedy Center Board of Directors right here. Ben Berkhom. You have it right there. Can you introduce member of the Kennedy Center Board? Because here's why. The very first event, you know that I think President Trump, we strongly recommended to President Trump and Rick Grinnell that they put on in the new reform Kennedy center is the J6 choir to come back for an evening entertainment. Right? I don't know. With all the J6 prisoners and all families in a celebration and to make sure that the, that the elites in this town understand there's a new sheriff in town. You, you put him on the spot. I don't know if he can sing. But this is actually not just a J Sixer. This was a fugitive J Sixer who escaped the FBI for four years. And well, you tell Him. What's your name? Tell us your. Quickly. And then.
Adam Villarreal
My name is Adam Villarreal. I was the fugitive J. Sixer. I escaped arrest by the FBI for four years, being chased by the illegitimate Biden regime.
Jack Posobiec
Wow. What's your question, sir? So. So how was your case concluded?
Adam Villarreal
My case was concluded with a full pardon, all ancillary charges. I want to say thank you to God and President Trump.
Jack Posobiec
We support the full pardon of the J6. Is correct. Amen. Was this a fence direction or a Fed direction? Right. Do we have to. Is that. I know we got a long list of things to do over the house and at the Justice Department, but we need a full transparent adjudication of the 2020 election. Right. 2020 election. We have to. And we have. Have to have a full adjudication, totally Transparent, of. Of J6. The Fed's direction. Correct. Because if history shows us anything, the more facts come out, the stronger our case always comes, right? When the facts come out, it's never better for them. That's why they always try to hide things.
Adam Villarreal
And that was my question, sir. We in the January 6th community desperately need a voice like yours. We have five people who are still being illegitimately held by activist judges. We have a whole lot of people, some bravest, strongest, most patriotic Americans that you ever met that just want to love and help this country. And people like Jenny cudd down at J6 Road Home Project, and Mark and Julie Middleton, they're helping out at American Patriot Relief, and they're trying to raise money for these people. But we really need a voice, a powerful voice like yours, to advocate for these people.
Jack Posobiec
And also about you guys, the years out of your lives. When I was in. In my cell block in Danbury, because unlike Peter Navarre, I didn't go to a camp. I actually went to a prison. I put the needle on Peter. He. That gets Navarre going no end. And in my cell block, right across from me in the other cell was a J6. Or he'd gotten 15 years in prison. He's been. He's been. He's. He's been released. Julian, we got Jeremy Brown still out there. You got Ben Martin. So there are people. Spend time out there. There are people working on those. So you have tremendous support. But. And more important, or as importantly, is how you guys get back up on your feet, given that the illegitimate Biden regime who stole the 2020 election, then put these guys in prison for years and destroyed the whole purpose is to destroy your family. You do understand that, right?
Adam Villarreal
Yes, sir.
Jack Posobiec
As a lesson to everybody else that if you ever, if you ever question the regime, you will be destroyed.
Adam Villarreal
We actually have something really great that we think can help people out. My wife and I run something called the Homeland House foundation, and we're trying to use tax liens to get a plot of land for every J. Sixer free and clear.
Jack Posobiec
Wow. Wow. You know, I think that's brilliant. I. I think we want to talk to you and your wife in the homesteading thing.
Natalie Winters
It.
Jack Posobiec
We just have one small change. We want it to take place in Georgetown. Right. We want to turf them all out of there. Right? Right. J6ers with that. Beautiful. You got to be in Georgetown because then you. To the Kennedy Center. The Kennedy center ripped their heart out. Right? That's hype. And for the secular humanists that run this town, that's high church. So President Trump, not only did he not only fire the board, he made himself chairman. Right? So great.
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve, doesn't. Doesn't Liz Cheney have a big townhouse mansion? Because I know she got that pardon along with the other J6 committee members, but I don't think that covers civil liability, now does it?
Jack Posobiec
Hang on. Jack, as always, brings up a great point. Think about this for a second. The J6 committee, right, with a stolen election that was stolen in broad daylight, and everybody understood it all throughout the world. This is why they never treated Biden with any respect. Right? Every hedge fund guy in the world knows the math was stolen. Then after J6 of which was a fed direction, there was no protection. I mean, we're sitting in the war room and I said, there's a National Guard up here today. The morning office says no, they got the, they got the Capitol Hill cops with the, with the little bike racks. Wow. And we now know that that was all rigged, right, By Nancy Pelosi. Think about it for a second. That committee, which was totally illegitimate, and I was prepared to go to prison for that, for that principle of separation of powers, because it's so fundamental. It wasn't a legitimate committee in that they didn't have a ranking member and they didn't have minority council. So they never got the information and they never got to cross examine witnesses. That's why this was not like Watergate. It was not like Iran Contra. We have that tension, which you should have. And when we do things in the House, it should be ranking member, minority council. They should. That's what drives attention and gets. Gets to the truth. That committee, having done that, they then did a report. They sent the report to. This was the Kickoff for Jack Smith and the whole insurrection thing against President Trump, of which they eventually. Jack Smith and all the indictments was 300 years in prison. They're the railhead of wanting President Trump to die in prison. Plus all the information on the J6 prisons, all these young men and some elderly women that went to prison, right? People. People in their 70s who went to prison. They did all that. They sent Navarro to prison, they sent me to prison. They were. Sent other people to prison. They were literally out of control. This is like the French Revolution during the days of the terror, right? This was the committee of 12. They had that kind of power. And they were foaming at the mouth. You see it on national tv. Remember, they come into the Cannon Room, I think it was, and they had the big thing. They're sitting up there all puffed up, right? With Kinzinger and Cheney and all of them. And what did they do when president. Because they never thought we'd win, right? They never thought we'd win the moment we won. And totally caught them by surprise. They crawled on their bellies to the White House and asked for blanket preemptive pardons because they knew what they did to this guy and his family. They knew what they did to Trump, and they wanted Trump to die in a federal prison. They knew what they had done to all of us, right? And Peter and I are the least consequential here, but what they did to the Constitution, and they're going to crawl over there, and not just them, but also their staffs. The staff. The woman perjured herself in my case and sat there and lied as they came and lied about everything that they. All the information they put there. It was lie after lie after lie after lie. And what they do, they went to protect themselves. I'm a huge believer that we got to get and work those pardons because if anybody should be brought to justice, it should be Benny Thompson, Liz Cheney, Shifty Schiff, all those sanctimonious. Jamie Raskin, all those popped up. They should all go to federal prison for what they try to do for this country. Amen. Do you guys. Do I have an agreement here? Do we. It has to happen or you don't have a republic. McGinley, you're our lawyer here.
Adam Villarreal
What do you.
Jack Posobiec
What do you think?
Bill McGinley
I think one of the most. Son, I think one of the most important things to remember is while the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia was engaged in these types of activities, the things that they weren't doing was prosecuting violent criminals. And so while they were allowing chaos to erupt on the streets of the District of Columbia, our nation's capital, which.
Michael
Was a total disgrace.
Bill McGinley
And Steve knows this. In February, what got me off the sidelines to get back in, My friend was murdered in a carjacking in February. He was shot a couple of blocks.
Jack Posobiec
From the Treasury Department, right?
Bill McGinley
Yeah. And for the crime of picking up his wife from work, a guy jumped into the car, shot him in the head. He somehow made it out of the car, and she found him on the sidewalk outside of her law firm. And so while all this is going on, let's not forget the crime, the victims of violent crime that this US District attorney would not prosecute in days before this happened. I remember in the proximity because I was texting Steve about this. This asshat said prosecution and incarceration are not the solutions to the carjacking epidemic that's plaguing the nation's capital. And so, you know, we've talked about voter registration in churches. We're talking about a lot of the things that are going on here. I think everybody in this room probably has a personal story that demonstrates the importance and consequences of the 24 election.
Jack Posobiec
Amen.
Bill McGinley
And how this is going to right a lot of the wrongs. And we're going to restore common sense. We're going to protect families. We're going to create an economy where small businesses that are the engine of job growth in this country can thrive. We're going to reduce regulations, which is basically a proxy for attacks. Every regulation is a tax, and we're going to bring that down. But we're going to start by prosecuting and incarcerating violent criminals. And we're not going to go after grandmothers who are praying. We're not going to go after some of the other people who are frankly, exercising their First Amendment rights.
Jack Posobiec
Can I go after one grandmother? Can we go after Nancy Pelosi? Just one. She's not praying. We got to take a short break here. Remember, they bragged about you. Remember, Cash came on the show week after week after week preaching this gospel, right. About the FBI has got to be sorted out. And tomorrow on Thursday at in the afternoon, Cash Patel's vote's going to come up to be the director of the FBI because of you. No, this is 100%. You had President Trump's back and then you had Cash's back. Short break, back the national have you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Jack Posobiec
Welcome. You know, Biden and those guys had the Praetorian Guard of the CIA and the FBI. We've got it right here. The Trump Tribe of Texas in radiant liberty. I warned you that later, as the day goes on, they're going to start turning up, right? The hardcore, the, the, the, the, the, the religious ones are here early in the morning. But man, we're starting to get the wild ones now. Ben Berklebutt. Thank you, guys. They come over, Ben. Let's find out who they are, where they're from. And this is, shows you why everyone's moving to Texas, right? By 2045, Texas is going to be the largest state in you. Bigger than California because half of California, Texas. Hey, Steven, I, I've seen these guys, I've seen these guys all across the country when, when they were taking our country away from us. They were fighting for Trump. And now we won. Praise the Lord. What's your name? Where are you from?
Michael
Michael from Beaumont, Texas.
Penny
Penny from Lake Charles, Louisiana.
Jack Posobiec
My name is Sonya Harbor. I was adopted from Germany age 2.
Natalie Winters
Brought back over here.
Jack Posobiec
My military family, my family and I love America and I became a US.
Penny
Citizen at age 4. Thank God I was rescued and I love America.
Jack Posobiec
Wow. I'm Blake Zumo from Beaumont, Texas in Del Cal, Texas.
Penny
Laura Toler from Texas.
Jack Posobiec
Come to Texas. We need some people to drill, baby, drill. Unless you're a liberal. Unless you're a liberal, don't go there.
Natalie Winters
I'm Jan Manchak.
Penny
I'm from the little town of Orange.
Natalie Winters
Texas, not too far from Beaumont. Glad to be here.
Jack Posobiec
God bless you all. Before you guys leave, I, I just have a question. We turned, you know, Texas was going to be blue. Remember that? And it was going to be purple. And source put 200 million, $300 million in there to turn it. And because of the war room posse and the grassroots, the Tea Party down there, Texas volunteers, you guys. President Trump won by 14 points. President Trump won the state, Texas by 14 points. Ted Cruz won by nine. I mean, it's extraordinary. So how did we end up with a Bush rhino as the speaker of the House that just cut a deal yesterday to give Democrats the power? Can I, can I get the grassroots? Give me a helping hand here.
Michael
To be honest, I haven't been keeping up. We've been so busy traveling. But I want to say first, I was Democrat in 2020 before the last election. So since the election of 2020, I was Democrat for 35 years and President Trump is who opened my eyes. So God bless America.
Jack Posobiec
That's a praise God right there. Amen. That's it. Right? God is mighty right there. That's it, baby. Hold it. Why, why is a Democrat for 35 years? What was about President Trump? Give me a minute. Was it President Trump?
Michael
I was believing what the fake media was making me to believe. They were telling me what to think. But when I saw the country burning down. I have a small business in Texas and I worked too hard for my business to watch Antifa burn down buildings while Kamala Harris bailed him out of jail. And I saw that President Trump was taking up for small businesses. And that's when I switched from watching CNN to watching Fox and Newsmax and Rav and saw within probably a day of the lies that the fake media was telling me versus what you guys were saying.
Jack Posobiec
Hang on, hang on, hang on. I just want to go through that transition. Yeah. Cnn, Fox newsmax, then real news, baby. Real news. Rav. Great awakening. Thank you, guys. You're awesome. Thank you, guys. We'll catch you later. And they're going to be with us all week down here at the in our permanent broadcast. So thank you very much. Let's have it for the Trump tribe of Texas and Lady Liberty. Wow. We've got our White House correspondent is going to join Us in a minute. Let's start at the left in two minutes. About what's ahead of us right now. The fight is really starting. The rest of the day we're going to go through this. McGinley, start with you. Come on. We'll rip all the way back.
Bill McGinley
Number one, we need to confirm Trump's nominees and not only, not only at the secretary, the department and administrator and director level, but we need them in the sub as well. So we need the unders, the deputies, the assistants to get in there as well. Personnel is policy and there's an awful lot of people who work in these departments and agencies that need political leadership and oversight. Confirm them. Number two, go back and look at all of the Biden last minute regulations and make sure that they're identified and put through the Congressional Review act, which allows the Republican House and Senate to repeal them, but it also allows that make sure that they can't be passed again. And the CRA is going to be incredibly important, is going to be one of the things that needs to be done. And then number three, what we really need to do is we need to make sure that the transparency initiated by Doge continues.
Jack Posobiec
Amen.
Bill McGinley
Because what we need to have is the American people need to see what has actually happened.
Jack Posobiec
Amen. Real quickly, remember, there are a thousand that have to be confirmed. Second, third tier, we got Bridge, Kobe, so many years we're getting to that cash is. But I think letting the Guerrero say we still got so many more to go. Right. What you got? Put shoulders, will you? So I think one of the big.
Adam Villarreal
Fights, and I just read this in.
Jack Posobiec
The Washington Post yesterday, I think someone in the DOJ resigned because she was quote unquote asked to look into Biden climate money that was going out the door. Well, we're going to need him. What the big fight of the head is a full restoration of the rule of law. This is our retribution, is the execution of equal justice under the law. Because if you follow, you treat justice equally. Then these people go to jail because the money that's going up, I mean this thing's a racket. We are at the just the tip of the iceberg where we're learning about what Doge is uncovered. I mean this stuff is criminal and we have to get the House the appropriate. We have to have full transparency.
Steve Bannon
Now Eli Crane, Gates and these guys.
Jack Posobiec
Worked on like USAID for years and there's a Republican establishment that helped the Democrats suppress what was going on. We need full transparency. Doge is doing their work. It's kind of the special forces. But we need to institutionalize this. Total, total transparency. Ran. He just said this thing in D.C. was big. It's $20 billion that went to Citicorp. And Citicorp never informed anybody. They're debanking. They're debanking maga, they're debanking Trump. They're debanking all of his war room. They got $20 billion right. Kind of came from somewhere, and they never told anybody about it.
Penny
You know, I was in the first batch of subpoenas with you and Cash Patel and others. And so I had to go through this personally. In addition to going after Liz Cheney and these attorneys that went after us in the committee, I want to go after these companies that illegally turned over our data, absent any warrants. That includes, namely, AT&T, by the way.
Jack Posobiec
Every, Every, every phone company, every bank, even without subpoenas, they. They gave all the information for everybody.
Penny
Bank America gave the transactions of every single person who made a transaction with their bank in DC on January 5th, 6th or 7th. Just handed it all over without even warning you. So I want to see some accountability for those companies. I don't want to see them sitting on the inauguration stage with Trump. And then, secondly, I'm worried about the Senate. The establishment GOP wants a small majority so they can control and dangle their vote over Donald Trump. And we have to expand it. And so right now, looking towards 2026, there's only one real vulnerable CIC, which is Susan Collins. We should give her some space. I will always love her for doing the right thing with Kavanaugh. She's in a very blue state, so let's just leave her alone. But you have some, some folks that cause us problems. I tell you, don't waste your time. Don't waste your time, but you can. How about John Cornyn in Texas? He is up. Who would like to see a Senator? Ken Paxton, that maybe you should get involved there? Bill Cassidy in Louisiana. Trump won that state by 20 points. Bill Cassidy keeps threatening to vote against our nominees. So let's hold him accountable. You've got Joni Ernst with Iowa. She ended up doing the right thing, but we put the pressure on her. She's up in 2026. Thom Tillis in North Carolina is up in 2026. I know we have a lot here. We have Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. Guys, we can hold these folks accountable.
Jack Posobiec
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Lindsey Graham is the president's best friend, isn't he?
Penny
No, the president does a good job of talking to all these folks. It is our job as the posse to hold them accountable. President Trump has enough on his plate. He needs to be able to get these folks votes. But it's our. It's incumbent upon us to pressure them to do the right thing. We have pick up opportunities in Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire.
Jack Posobiec
You would agree, though, if we have to. Opportunity costs. The House is everything. Next time, the Senate, there's. We got to change some stuff out. Except I know we got tons of rhinos there.
Penny
Yes.
Jack Posobiec
But if Hakeem Jeffries, the Speaker of the House, it's a different deal. Right. Okay. If Hakeem Jeffries wins, they're going to impeach Trump in the first 33 weeks. Right. They're obviously going to do that. That's what they're going to run. This is what Pelosi ran on in 18. I kept telling people, I said, she's.
Steve Bannon
They're walking in doors in Iowa in.
Jack Posobiec
The middle of the summer, knocking on doors because they're saying, if you come out and vote, we're going to impeach Trump. And she impeached Trump.
Bill McGinley
She delivered, sir.
Jack Posobiec
Yes.
Dave Bradford
On the House. We're going to have to thread the needle over the next year. You've heard Steve. We're going to do a cr. That's a disaster. There's no happy face on that thing. That's $7 trillion of Nancy Pelosi woke and weaponized junk. That stays with us all.
Jack Posobiec
Biden's numbers is Biden's budget. It is $2 trillion of deficit already baked in. And to add insult to injury, nothing that Doge has done so far. If they do counts, nothing.
Penny
Nothing.
Dave Bradford
And then, so then you move into budget reconciliation. You get two bites of that apple per year, and then you got the budget that Steve's talking about coming up. That's our chance to do great things. But here comes the thread the needle part. That's going to be a big number that a lot of my Freedom Caucus guys are going to gag on. And then when it comes to the tax cuts discussion, the tax cuts, the gentleman from Texas back there that just spoke so eloquently about taking care of the small guy. If those tax cuts don't represent the average American and America and small business, then we got a problem.
Jack Posobiec
When we get to the final vote, it's going to be an up or down vote. What Dave is saying is that the next four months is trench warfare to make sure that the right populist policies are in there right now at the end. Everybody's got to vote yes, you're going.
Dave Bradford
To we lose it, you're going to.
Jack Posobiec
Have to hold hands. But you got to fight now for it. Real quickly. We got about a minute. President Trump has just put out a hot truth social. I know that shocks right Jack Bosobic. This may be one of the hottest ones ever and this shows you read it.
Stephen K. Bannon
So just verbatim, I just mentioned how when we were in Kiev last week, President Zelensky refused to take the deal for the minerals. Here's President Trump's response. Think of it, a moderately successful comedian blow to me. Zelinsky talked the United states into spending $350 billion on a war that couldn't be won. Joe Biden didn't get back anything. Zelensky admits half the money is missing, refuses elections low in the polls. The only thing he's good at playing is Biden like a fiddle and a and he's a dictator without elections. He better move fast or he's not going to have a country left.
Jack Posobiec
That is actually worse than what we saw in war room. Right. That was hard. Okay, seven seconds short commercial break. Natalie Winters, our White House correspondents. Next.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Bill McGinley
Back.
Jack Posobiec
To national harbor, the Gaylord Hotel, the home of cpac. I want to thank everybody. We're filling in here now. I want to thank the late arrivals. I know it was a long night last night, folks, but thank you for showing up. Of course, the hardcores are here at o dark 30. Really appreciate it's force multiplier. We're here all day. Jack Basobe is going to do his show live here. We're going to do the afternoon show. I think we're going to dip into sub. They're going to have a international conference. We'll play some of but we'll go through the 5 o'clock hour and make sure we get all your input. It's going to be tremendous audience participation for the rest of the afternoon. We have our White House correspondent and has she done an amazing job? They're trying to pick. The mainstream media is trying to pick her. Natalie Winters.
Natalie Winters
Am I doing the podium? I'm taking over. You're going to leave for four months to make me host the show. Hi, everyone. Yeah, please, please don't. I love hosting the show, but not that much. Hi everyone. Thank you so much for coming and being here. It's always an honor to be able to see the Warren posse in the flesh. I have to say I've been having to field, as you could probably imagine, a lot of interviews from virtually everyone in the mainstream press. Shout out to Daily Mail. But I always love having or knowing that you guys have my back. And every single time that they try to attack me or impugn my work, I always say, well, you know what? Last time I checked the viewership and both the quantity and quality of audience, I think War Room is on a perpendicular track with every other outlet in that press briefing room. And if you don't believe me, just ask Kevin McCarthy. The funniest part though, I probably said that now like 20 times. No one's ever quoted me on it. They choose to depict me as a, you know, dumb 23 year old. Well, how about this? I'll keep exposing you guys with my scoops. And speaking of that, we'll get to some scoops. But I was watching MSNBC last night and I was doing other things and I heard the words regime change. They said it and I'm like, wow, MSNBC saying regime change. How often do you hear that? And it made me realize last night that what we are witnessing right now is essentially a battle of regime changes. Right? We have what Doge and what President Trump is trying to do and then you have with the color revolution. You can call them extraordinaires or apparatchiks or globalist henchmen. Take your pick. With the norm eyes and archetypes of the world, what they are trying to do, and Stephen K. Bannon has always had the wonderful metaphor, the idea that they're not going to hand over, right. The keys to the kingdom, the keys to the castle. But for those of you who are true war room devotees, you'll know I said this yesterday on the show, but what Norm Eisen and all of these lawfare organizations, which we'll get into, are trying to do is essentially make the United States a country whereby there is no set of keys that you can even use to unlock the castle. Because they control every single instrument, every single institution of power from the mainstream media to academia to every lever of government to every single bureaucrat. And make, make no mistake, the reason why they are in such strong and intense meltdown about the fact that we are mass terminating and mass firing these bureaucrats has nothing to do with democracy. It has everything to do with we are stripping and ripping them out of the institutions that they were planning to weaponize against President Trump by turning these civil servants. Right. It sounds so euphemistic. Into embeds who are going to be whistleblowers and just agitators against President Trump. And we'll bring some evidence like we always do. I'm sure you guys have seen by now the scoop that I broke yesterday, how the so called, you know, nonpartisan apolitical civil servant that 60 Minutes featured the woman because the dude was a donor to Ilhan Omar and Bernie Sanders. But I digress on that, but the chick had a blog where she was saying that you guys are, believe it or not, racist, sexist, ableist and misogynistic square that somehow I don't know. But supporters of President Trump, yes, especially you, you are, you are very racist. But that you, you guys need to be exterminated. And that Trump was Hitler. And I think there's an interesting Freudian slip there, because to the regime media, right? To the deep state, someone like that actually is apolitical, right? Because that is the, that is the sort of reverted state. That is what the idea of being apolitical is. That is the Washington political consensus. And I have to say, just a quick note, I always like to dunk on, on 60 Minutes. I don't know about you guys, but did you see 60 minutes interview any people whose businesses were destroyed by the COVID lockdowns and mandates? No. Yeah. Did you guys, like, I don't know, during 2008, when America's working class was absolutely decimated and destroyed, did you guys get any media calls? What do you think about what they're doing to the bankers? No. Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. So spare me 60 minutes. The performative activism that you care so much about Americans being able to, what was it, Pay for the daycare of your children? Yeah. I don't really think someone who's grifted off of this country for decades I'm ever going to have empathy for. Right. And it sort of brings me to my broader point, which I'm always happy to get granular here in the war room, as we do, but how they are now sort of creating this resistance against President Trump. I'm sure you guys have seen that it's a little different than what they were doing in 2016. Not just because the pink hats are missing. I guess maybe I culturally appropriated them with my outfit today. Got to keep the Daily Mail on their toes. But it's a lot more sophisticated and it's a lot more calculated and selective in their approach of how they're choosing to oppose President Trump. And I think if you look at the last four years of what they did, and frankly, to probably everyone who's sitting on this stage, certainly to Steve, to President Trump and his family, they have been sharpening their knives of lawfare.
Penny
Right.
Natalie Winters
For these last four years. And they admitted as much. Right. The way the Washington Post and the New York Times covers this sort of second iteration of resistance, they say that they're banking on the courts and a lot of the groups that are bankrolling these lawsuits that sort of represent the umbrella organization at something called Democracy Forward, and they have about 200 or so far left groups that represent this cohort that are sort of responsible for court shopping and bringing all these lawsuits, which is how they're sort of doing this blitz to blockade a lot of President Trump's executive orders. And the most interesting thing, which I think proves not only that the lawfare that they waged against President Trump for these last four years was just. That was lawfare, was that all of these organizations that were involved in and keeping Trump off the ballot and suing him and indicting him in New York and everywhere else, well, those are not the same groups that are suing him for his executive orders. Right. You have the Brennan center, you have aclu, you have the Southern Poverty Law Center. And then this very, very closely intersects with sort of the Court for lack of a better word of public opinion. And that has to do with our favorite. We can boo. I want everyone to boo when I say his name. Norm Eisen. Thank you. Thank you. We don't like Norm Eisen. But just a fun fact about Norm Isen. This morning I was, you know, digging, digging around, and I found that. Did you know his daughter used to work at the National Democracy Institute, which has received copious amounts of funding from usaid? The same man who's now suing Doge because of what they're doing in terms of auditing usaid, you know, at least. Look, Steve, I have one disagreement with you, and that is that there are conspiracies. They're not just coincidences. And this is a perfect example of that. Yeah, you can, you can applaud for that one. You know, as the executive editor of War Room, which I'm still trying to decide what exactly that means. I don't know what I'm editing. That would be my only editorial note. But no, I bring up Norm Eisen, and I know you guys are probably like, oh, my gosh, anytime this girl is on War Room, all she does is talk about Norma Eisen and color revolutions. But that's because if you, if you think about it, we're really the only show that's actually talking about this, Right? The rest of conservative media wants to take their victory lapse and just say, you know what? They said the word mass deportation. That's enough. Be frank. The numbers need to be higher. At this rate, Even if it's 1,000 people a day, that's 365,000 a year. And that's not enough. And that's not what we elected President Trump to do. So I'm willing to call out what needs to be called out. That's what I view my role in the White House press briefing room, which might I add, having to walk into that room every day. No one really likes me. It's okay. I take a s. Not much water. It's so nice to walk into a room full of people who actually like me.
Jack Posobiec
Very different.
Natalie Winters
Very different. Oh, my gosh, they're so. They're so mean.
Jack Posobiec
So you're saying nothing's changed since high school?
Natalie Winters
No, it's. It really is. It is so high school. You know, I, I view. I view my life through sort of two movies. And don't worry, we'll get back to the substantive stuff. But I always say in another universe, I'd be like a stand up comedian. And I think my life is Both like Legally Blonde mixed with Mean Girls. Except instead of coming moving back from Africa, I'm coming from a stint of hosting for you while you were in prison and then invading the high school. And the high school is the press briefing room. But I digress. I digress on all that. On the normizen point. The color revolution stuff, which is the heart of this, which is what is so important. And by the way, if you think I'm crazy, Normaism used to be on MSNBC, like once a month. He's on multiple times a day. And he's on CNN too. And this is their guy and he's the one suing everyone. So he is a key figure. And I think if you look to. If you look at what left wing media has done, that's so brilliant. And it's sort of how I do my investigative work. They make everything about people right, because it's easier for narratives to take hold that way. And that's why I'm so keen on focusing on Norm Eisen, because instead of being this nebulous dark money entity, it's very easy to sort of internalize and rationalize. But their tactics for the color revolution stuff, at least what they did in 2020, it was mass mobilization of street protests, engineering contested election results. And just the idea of impeachments are just sort of like creating this idea of feigned accountability or legitimacy for who's been elected. And I think if you sort of reverse engineer or you extrapolate that onto what they're doing right now with President Trump. You see it with the Elon stuff, right? They use him as a cudgel to undermine his legitimacy. They're doing that with the lawsuits against Doge. There's actually not that many protests going on. I guess maybe all the money that the DNC wasted on Kamala Harris, they can't pay their protesters, but anytime there's protests, MSNBC will cover it absolutely nonstop. And the equivalent of impeaching President Trump, I think, is in part the lawfare, but that's also why they're so, so beyond triggered. Sort of what I started this whole thing with the idea that these civil servants are not going to be in the building because, you know, you can't whistleblow if your whistle, for lack of a better word, has been taken away from you. So that is what we are up against. And I will. I feel you getting closer and closer, like if you want the podium, because.
Jack Posobiec
We got bounce by one. Can I get a mic? Thanks. Real quickly, the energy. Caroline Levitt, who Got her chops on the show when she was running a primary, tough primary. She's become a superstar. It's unbelievable. What's the energy when you're there every day? I know you're looking at the resistance that's coming for them and doing in a very brilliant way. What's the energy coming out of the West Wing? Coming out of the White House?
Natalie Winters
Oh, coming out. I think I said the press. Dark, depraved, scary. Don't want to be there. Coming out of the White House, it's. It's so wonderful. I will say there's. There's so many brilliant young people working. I think that's something that hasn't really been reported on the Trump White House. People, you know, around my age who are really, I think, at least in the comm shop, this is key.
Jack Posobiec
There's so many EOB and all the different groups. These people are all in their 20s. Right. They got great leadership with the Navarros, Suzy Wiles. But this shows you the power of the organization. These people are in their mid-20s.
Natalie Winters
Yeah, truly. I mean, I almost feel old and I'm 23. It has to be 23 before. I know don't fire me. But no, it's there. There's such a, I think, energy and spirit there that. That's not reported on. But I also think, too, it's actual accountability, like Caroline Levitt, you know, yanking the politico funds from the platform. That's something that we haven't. Haven't seen. But I will say it is glorious. I wish I could bring y'all with me to hear these reporters. Like, I was waiting in line for the bathroom, and they're like, they're deconstructing everything.
Jack Posobiec
What do we do?
Natalie Winters
How do we cover it? And I wanted to turn and be like, like, they're like, they literally said, I don't know if this is what the American people want to see. I was like, yeah, they do social media.
Jack Posobiec
Where do people. I know you got to go to the White House. Social media. Where do people get you?
Natalie Winters
Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. Thank you, Steve, for having me. Thank you, guys.
Jack Posobiec
Give it up.
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Bill McGinley
That's a big one.
Jack Posobiec
Bill McGinley.
Bill McGinley
Well, Steve, thanks to you for everything that you did to help lead the posse. I think you deserve a lot of credit. Everybody on this stage does as well. Alex, Caroline and Dave is an amazing crew and a movement that I think is going to endure. It really needs to survive and re energize for 2026. We need to keep a Republican House. We need to keep A Republican Senate that supports President Trump and his transformative policies, so that the second two years of the 47 terms are going to be as productive as the first two.
Jack Posobiec
You've been here a long time and you know D.C. and you keep telling me, Trump now coming back, you can, you can feel a change in this imperial capital. What advice before you leave in the gun smoke that's going to be there to keep our eye on the prize, particularly, we're going to have some enormous fights on our side of the football right to get everything, make sure everything's sorted and sorted the right way. And fighting for President Trump, you still got the Republicans establishment. There's also some disagreements. What do you recommend to people to make sure they keep their eye on the prize as we grind through the next year?
Bill McGinley
Stay focused on war room, separate signal from noise, don't get distracted by the mainstream media and what the dark money liberal empire is going to try and throw at you. A lot of these district court judges are making rulings that I think any lawyer would tell you are nonsensical. This needs to, a lot of these issues need to get to the Supreme Court so that we can finally settle, settle it so that President Trump has the clear path to do what the American people elected him to do. And the one thing that there's a couple of things that I'll leave you with. Number one, I think that for the United States of America, I don't care what branch of government you're in, the default position must be liberty. It must be freedom. And what we need to do is we need to make sure.
Jack Posobiec
Oh, the default position has to be what?
Bill McGinley
Liberty. Liberty has to be freedom. And I think, you know, one of the things that, if you, if you study the history of this nation, one of the things that makes us great is that as a country, we have always valued the rights of each individual, that we have never tried to put people into classes to diminish their rights, to make it a clean package for people to try and control you, you. And I think that's one of the great things about this country. You matter. This was your election. This was your victory and President Trump knows it. He's fighting for you.
Jack Posobiec
But that plays, that plays for what happened, is that, remember, I say that president because I was there as an eyewitness in 16. He's a providential figure, right? He's not the churchiest guy you're ever going to meet. He's just not. But he's probably divine providence hand was the 16 election also the steel and us having it stolen from them in 20 was divine providence. Because those four years, think how much tougher you are today. Think how much more focused you are today. Think of the great victory came back on January 20th of 2021 when he left Andrews Air Force Base. Only Boris was out there. We played my way from Sinatra, right? Nobody in billionaires, except for you, thought he was coming back, right? You see, you saw what they did.
Steve Bannon
To you as individuals.
Jack Posobiec
They tried to debank you. They try to de platform you. This is why the power of the oligarchs is too strong. All the oligarchs who came to your position at 11:00 Eastern PM Eastern Standard Time on the 5th of November, because they understood that you delivered the biggest comeback for President Trump in the history of the country. You know what happens when your liberty is taken away.
Stephen K. Bannon
You are unique.
Jack Posobiec
You're almost like the revolutionary generation. You had to fight for it every day for four years. And we're going to have to fight every day going forward to keep our liberty and to pass it on to our children and grandchildren.
Bill McGinley
And to borrow a line from a movie, it's the heart that makes it great to climb back from 2021 to 2024. What President Trump did, how he stood alone, how when he was shot in the head, he said, fight, fight, fight. That's the spirit of a movement that is the centerpiece of what we need to do to get his policies enacted, to get his nominees confirmed and everything else. And I think that's one of the great things about the posse and the movement that we see that continues to grow is because people were hungry for leadership and President Trump is providing it both on the world stage and domestically here at home. And I think one of the, the other thing that we need to remember, this is a federal, state and local issue that we need to be engaged in every single day. And the most powerful force in politics are you the volunteers agents. You the volunteer move army.
Jack Posobiec
President Trump, look, you had General Washington, you had Abraham Lincoln and you got Trump. Right? This is the age of Trump. The only two things they're not going to remember, Tucker or Bannon or Elon or any of us, they're only going to remember two things 100 years from now about this age. They remember Donald Trump and they remember maga, right? You, that he led a populist movement of his citizens. That's leadership. We're not going to see his type again. It just doesn't happen. But divine providence put him here for a reason to win in 16, to actually have it stolen in 20 and to have the moral courage and then the physical courage when they tried to assassinate him, to drive through and win in 2024, a sweeping victory. Now comes the hard part. Yes, we celebrate, but we fight harder now than we've ever fought before. Wilmaginley thank you. What's your social media?
Bill McGinley
Fight, fight, fight.
Jack Posobiec
Okay, let's play the right stuff to take us out because you guys have the right stuff. We're going to have lunch. Media, my three co hosts are going to join me back here. Standing ovation for you guys. The war room passing.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room | Episode 4281: Live From Force Multiplier Cont.
Release Date: February 19, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program delivering up-to-the-minute news. Hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, the show features medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and front-line responders, providing insider insights on the latest developments.
The episode kicks off with a fervent discussion between Stephen K. Bannon and Jack Posobiec, highlighting their frustration with mainstream media narratives:
Steve Bannon (00:01): "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
Jack Posobiec (00:12): "The people have had a belly full of it."
Bannon formally introduces himself as the host, setting an intense and urgent tone for the episode.
Jack Posobiec provides updates on recent activities surrounding the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) and the Force Multiplier Academy:
He mentions high-profile figures like Pete Hegseth and Scott Besant, emphasizing their strategic roles in international settings:
The discussion underscores the administration's efforts to maintain transparency and involve key operatives in critical negotiations, particularly in Ukraine.
The conversation shifts to the aftermath of the January 6th Capitol events, focusing on pardons and ongoing legal battles:
Jack Posobiec (05:11): Introduces Ben Berkhom, a new member of the Kennedy Center Board, highlighting proposals for pardoning January 6th participants.
Adam Villarreal (05:21): "My case was concluded with a full pardon, all ancillary charges. I want to say thank you to God and President Trump."
Jack Posobiec passionately advocates for comprehensive pardons:
The dialogue criticizes the Biden administration's handling of January 6th prosecutions, portraying them as politically motivated:
Bill McGinley shares a personal story to illustrate the DOJ's misplaced priorities:
Bill McGinley elaborates on the DOJ's failure to address violent crimes, juxtaposed with their focus on politically motivated prosecutions:
Bill McGinley (12:31): Describes a friend's tragic murder due to carjacking negligence by the DOJ.
Bill McGinley (14:20): "We're going to prosecute and incarcerate violent criminals. We're not going after grandmothers who are praying."
The discussion emphasizes the need to prioritize public safety over political vendettas, advocating for a justice system that protects citizens rather than targets dissenters.
The conversation transitions to strategic moves ahead of upcoming elections, with a focus on Texas as a political stronghold:
Jack Posobiec (18:05): Interacts with attendees from Texas and Louisiana, praising their support.
Bill McGinley (21:02): Outlines three key strategies:
Confirming Trump's Nominees: Ensuring political leadership aligns with their agenda.
Reversing Biden's Regulations: Utilizing the Congressional Review Act to repeal unfavorable policies.
Maintaining Transparency: Continuing investigations to expose the Biden administration's misdeeds.
Jack Posobiec (22:51): Highlights the resignation within the DOJ, attributing it to internal conflicts over climate funding investigations.
The segment underscores a proactive approach to dismantling the current administration's policies while reinforcing their own political strategies.
Natalie Winters and Jack Posobiec delve into media manipulation and legal battles against Trump supporters:
Natalie Winters (36:39): Discusses "regime change" efforts portrayed by mainstream media, accusing them of orchestrating legal challenges against Trump.
Jack Posobiec (36:39): Critiques the use of lawfare by left-wing groups to undermine Trump, emphasizing the need for transparency and exposing fraudulent activities within organizations like USAID and Citicorp.
Natalie Winters (39:43): Explores the sophisticated tactics employed by leftist organizations to block Trump's executive orders and influence public opinion through litigations and media narratives.
This section highlights the ongoing battle against entrenched liberal institutions, advocating for legal and transparent measures to counteract perceived biases.
The hosts discuss the concept of "regime change" and its impact on civil servants:
Jack Posobiec (43:38): "The executive editor of War Room, which I'm still trying to decide what exactly that means... think about it, we're really the only show that's actually talking about this."
Natalie Winters (43:37): Criticizes the undermining of civil servants and the manipulation of public institutions to weaken Trump's administration.
Jack Posobiec (50:28): Describes President Trump as a providential figure destined to counteract the deep state's influence, reinforcing the notion of an ongoing struggle to preserve American liberties.
The dialogue frames the political landscape as a battlefield, with civil servants playing pivotal roles in the fight between conservative movements and liberal establishments.
In the concluding segments, the hosts reflect on the movement's resilience and future battles:
Bill McGinley (48:40): Emphasizes the importance of liberty and individual rights as foundational to America's greatness.
Jack Posobiec (50:05): Highlights the necessity of continual vigilance and activism to protect freedoms, comparing Trump's leadership to historical American figures like Washington and Lincoln.
Stephen K. Bannon (52:32): Announces Calvary-related sponsors and reinforces the call to action for listeners to engage and support the movement.
The episode wraps up by reiterating the commitment to defending American values, urging listeners to remain active in the political arena to sustain and advance their agenda.
Steve Bannon (00:01): "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
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Jack Posobiec (05:35): "We support the full pardon of the J6."
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Bill McGinley (12:31): "While all this is going on, let's not forget the crime, the victims of violent crime that this US District attorney would not prosecute."
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Natalie Winters (25:37): "There are conspiracies. They're not just coincidences."
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Jack Posobiec (50:05): "They tried to debank you, they try to deplatform you. This is why the power of the oligarchs is too strong."
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Episode 4281 of Bannon’s War Room serves as a fervent rallying call for conservative activists and supporters of the Trump administration. The hosts and guests passionately discuss strategies to counteract what they perceive as systemic liberal bias within media and governmental institutions. Key themes include:
Transparency and Accountability: Emphasizing the need for openness in government dealings and scrutinizing the actions of the Biden administration.
Legal and Political Strategies: Advocating for the use of legislative tools like the Congressional Review Act to reverse unfavorable policies and ensuring the confirmation of Trump-aligned nominees.
Defense of January 6th Participants: Strong support for pardoning January 6th conspirators and criticizing the DOJ for perceived political prosecutions.
Media Criticism: Denouncing mainstream media as biased and orchestrated in favor of liberal agendas, reinforcing the importance of alternative information sources.
Future Political Engagement: Encouraging sustained activism and participation in upcoming elections to maintain and expand conservative influence.
The episode underscores a deep-seated belief in the necessity of protecting American liberties against what they view as a corrupt and declining liberal regime. Through energized discussions and strategic planning, the hosts aim to mobilize their audience for continued political action.