Episode 4283: Live From CPAC 2025 Day 1

Summary

Summary of "Bannon's War Room" Episode 4283: Live From CPAC 2025 Day 1

Podcast Information:

• Title: Bannon’s War Room
• Host/Author: WarRoom.org
• Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-minute information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon brings medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and those on the front lines for a comprehensive look at the latest news from all and provides their insider insights.
• Episode: Episode 4283: Live From CPAC 2025 Day 1
• Release Date: February 20, 2025

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1. Introduction and Opening Remarks

Steve Bannon kicks off the episode by announcing the imminent arrival of President Trump at CPAC 2025. He emphasizes the role of Real America's Voice, highlighting its influence in disseminating Trump's messages and supporting the "forgotten man and woman."

[00:02] Steve Bannon: "This is the forgotten man and woman completely abandoned."

2. Media Landscape and MAGA Movement

Steve Bannon and Brian Glenn discuss the resurgence of President Trump's influence through new media platforms, contrasting it with mainstream media's perceived abandonment of MAGA supporters.

[01:08] Steve Bannon: "When the mainstream media is like, how did Trump come back? How they came back was pick and shovel work every day by these new media outlets."

3. Interview with Vice President J.D. Vance

Mercy Schlapp interviews Vice President J.D. Vance, delving into the administration's accomplishments in its first month, focusing on immigration, economic policies, and international relations.

a. Administration's First Month Achievements

Vance highlights significant initiatives such as securing the southern border, reducing energy costs through energy independence, and curbing unnecessary taxpayer spending. He underscores the administration's commitment to "America First" priorities.

[29:07] Brian Glenn: "We've done more on energy under President Trump's leadership than I think any administration in history."

b. Immigration Policies and Border Security

The discussion centers on stringent immigration policies aimed at curbing illegal immigration. Testimonies from former Proud Boys and Oath Keepers illustrate grievances about their treatment and support for the administration's stance.

[31:35] Brian Glenn: "Your free ride is over because President Trump is back in the Oval Office."

c. Economic Strategies and Fiscal Responsibility

Vance outlines economic strategies focusing on energy independence to lower costs, permanent tax cuts, and reducing government expenditure on projects deemed unnecessary by the American public.

[36:10] Brian Glenn: "If we unleash American energy, that will do more than anything to drive down the cost for the American people."

d. International Relations and Peace Efforts

Vance discusses President Trump's approach to international conflicts, particularly the war in Ukraine. He advocates for direct negotiations with Russia to achieve lasting peace, contrasting this with previous administrations' strategies.

[44:07] Brian Glenn: "Peace is in the interest of Russia, it's in the interest of Ukraine, it's in the interest of Europe."

e. Pro-Life Policies and Faith

The interview shifts to pro-life initiatives, highlighting the administration's support for life-affirming policies and the influence of Christian faith in policy-making.

[51:25] Brian Glenn: "We have got to persuade our fellow citizens that unborn life is worthy of protecting."

f. Message to Youth and Future Generations

Vance addresses young Americans, encouraging them to embrace traditional values, pursue economic stability, and participate actively in the political process to ensure a prosperous future.

[53:54] Brian Glenn: "We want you to help fight for us because we've got to win, not just the policy battles of the next couple of months."

4. Interview with Balaz Orban

Steve Bannon engages in a conversation with Balaz Orban, a strategist closely associated with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. The discussion revolves around resistance to liberal agendas, migration policies, and international cooperation.

a. Resistance Against Liberal Agendas

Orban emphasizes the fight against liberal institutional structures in Europe, paralleling the MAGA movement's resistance in the United States. He highlights the importance of preserving traditional values and national sovereignty.

[62:32] Balaz Orban: "It's about the survival of our civilization. Because the liberals in the last years, last decade, they destroyed everything."

b. Funding from US Taxpayers and Media Influence

Orban accuses US taxpayer funds of being used to undermine Hungary's government and conservative values through organizations backed by figures like George Soros.

[63:54] Balaz Orban: "American taxpayer money was spent to try to delegitimize the Hungarian government and the conservative values which are shared by them."

c. CPAC's International Summit and Future Cooperation

The conversation touches on CPAC's role in fostering international conservative alliances, particularly with European nations like Hungary, focusing on shared values of sovereignty, free speech, and opposition to open borders.

[62:15] Steve Bannon: "Why is Orban so close to the president and why is he considered the bridge, particularly as the president's, you know, trying to think through geo strategically, geo economically."

d. Migration Policies and National Security

Orban defends Hungary's strict migration policies, referencing a national referendum where 90% of Hungarians supported closing the borders to illegal migrants, contrasting Hungary's stance with other European nations facing migration challenges.

[66:13] Balaz Orban: "It's so obvious that we are standing here and we need to not reform the structure and build a new one."

e. Opposition to EU's Migration Stance

Orban draws parallels between US and European liberal policies, advocating for mutual resistance against migration and liberal interference in national affairs.

[67:24] Steve Bannon: "It's simple. If you don't have the illegal migrants, the streets and the cities are safe and sound and you don't have terrorist attacks."

5. Key Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the episode, key themes emerge:

• Media Influence: Emphasis on new media platforms supporting the MAGA movement over traditional mainstream media.
• Immigration Reform: Strong stance against illegal immigration as a pillar of national security and economic stability.
• Economic Policies: Focus on energy independence, tax cuts, and reducing governmental expenditures to foster economic growth.
• International Relations: Advocacy for direct negotiations to resolve conflicts, exemplified by the Ukraine-Russia situation.
• Cultural Preservation: Efforts to maintain traditional values and resist liberal institutional influences both domestically and internationally.

Steve Bannon concludes by reinforcing the administration's commitment to these policies and hinting at further explosive developments expected at CPAC 2025.

[61:35] Steve Bannon: "CPAC's gonna be pretty explosive this year, correct?"

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Notable Quotes:

• Steve Bannon: "This has been totally abandoned. This is the forgotten man and woman completely abandoned." [00:02]
• Steve Bannon: "When the mainstream media is like, how did Trump come back? How they came back was pick and shovel work every day by these new media outlets." [01:08]
• Brian Glenn: "We've done more on energy under President Trump's leadership than I think any administration in history." [29:07]
• Brian Glenn: "Your free ride is over because President Trump is back in the Oval Office." [31:35]
• Brian Glenn: "Peace is in the interest of Russia, it's in the interest of Ukraine, it's in the interest of Europe." [44:07]
• Balaz Orban: "It's about the survival of our civilization. Because the liberals in the last years, last decade, they destroyed everything." [62:32]

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the pivotal discussions and viewpoints presented during "Bannon’s War Room" Episode 4283, providing listeners with a clear understanding of the key topics and insights shared live from CPAC 2025.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

Moments away, President Trump will be landing behind me, Real America's Voice in Brian Glenn, because of great reporting, has been invited especially to go. This has been totally abandoned. This is the forgotten man and woman completely abandoned.

[Brian Glenn]

If you want to know what President.

[Steve Bannon]

Trump is up to, just turn on Real America's Voice. The communications staff understands the power of streaming and the power of things like Real America's Voice. This media landscaping is changing. Now. The First Lady's first trip is with her husband, the President of the United States, showing how much she cares about this. This is Real America's Voice has been invited by the White House communications team. I think it's just a wonderful thing that he's here today. I'm stopping in North Carolina first because they've been abused by what's happened. I mean, it's terrible. A lot of Americans think that this is symbolic of what your campaign was all about. America first being your priorities.

[Brian Glenn]

To Americans even going to California where.

[Steve Bannon]

Their policies might been in one of.

[Brian Glenn]

The biggest reasons why they've had these problems. But you're putting the American people first. Your thoughts on that?

[Steve Bannon]

We are. Thank you. I like that question. Boy, I want more questions like that. That's even a statement. Thank you very much. He's a good man, that guy. And he's also a very professional reporter, I have to say. Thank you very much. Yeah, we're putting America first. Thank you. Thank you. When the mainstream media is like, how did Trump come back? How they came back was pick and shovel work every day by these new media outlets. People like yourself that bet your career, people like Robin Parker, Sig, that bet everything and put all the chips in the middle of the table and say, hey, we backed this guy. We backed this movement, and today is the payoff. Brian Glenn.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Hey, real America's Voice family, are you on Getter yet?

[Brian Glenn]

No.

[Steve Bannon]

What are you waiting for? It's free, it's uncensored, and it's where all the biggest voices in conservative media are speaking out. Download the Getter app right now. It's totally free. It's where I put up exclusively all of my content 24 hours a day. Want to know what Steve Bannon's thinking? Go to Getter. That's right. You can follow all of your favorites. Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobi, and so many more.

[Brian Glenn]

And the best part, you can watch.

[Steve Bannon]

Real America's Voice right there on Getter Live.

[Mercy Schlapp]

So join the conversation.

[Steve Bannon]

Hop on the Getter chat room. Engage with patriots who are just like you. Good morning, Getter friends. We're breaking news.

[Mercy Schlapp]

We're delivering the truth, and we're doing it on Getter every single day.

[Steve Bannon]

So don't wait. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the movement.

[Mercy Schlapp]

It isn't just an app.

[Brian Glenn]

It isn't just a social media platform.

[Steve Bannon]

It's a community.

[Balaz Orban]

The very few people in Magaworld who.

[Brian Glenn]

Will speak out against Elon Musk. Why do you think that is?

[Steve Bannon]

I don't know. Elon's doing some great work. You know, I'm a huge supporter of the deconstruction administrative state and what Elon's doing in Doge. I'm a big supporter of that. I hope, and my prayer is that these cuts are real. I wish him a lot of luck. But I am not a transhumanist. I'm very anti oligarch. There's certain things about the oligarchs, not just Elon, but also the oligarchs, that, you know, the Bezos and Zuckerberg particularly, all these guys don't support us. And people have to understand. The CNN audience understand. They don't support maga.

[Balaz Orban]

Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan said how big a Trump fan he was.

[Steve Bannon]

You're not convinced? No. He's a criminal. What are you talking about? He put up 500 million doll to steal the election 2020. And of course, Mark Zuckerberg has not been charged nor convicted with any crimes and certainly nothing to do with the.

[Balaz Orban]

Imagined steal of the 2020 election, although.

[Steve Bannon]

It is a conspiracy theory that's often.

[Brian Glenn]

Repeated in MAGA circles. Yeah.

[Mercy Schlapp]

One is to be part of what Trump pushed until he and Zuckerberg formed this detente, I guess, done on Zuckerberg's part.

[Brian Glenn]

Really.

[Mercy Schlapp]

But what he said there, they don't. They're not maga. They don't understand maga. That's. That's interesting to me in terms this movement looks like.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. And look, I mean, one of the fascinating things I think about Steve Bannon.

[Brian Glenn]

Is he has this show that broadcasts.

[Steve Bannon]

For four hours live every day. I don't know if you want to try that. It's tough.

[Balaz Orban]

Go. But.

[Brian Glenn]

And it's everywhere.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, it comes preload, the channel comes preloaded on many televisions that are sold in this country today.

[Brian Glenn]

Any smart tv, basically. So he's reaching hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of people, and he didn't hold back as he was talking about what.

[Steve Bannon]

He describes as oligarchs here in the US you can tell President Trump doesn't totally trust the Oligarchs, we're putting in very tough antitrust people into the Justice Department and to the Alphabet agencies. And they, and they have the on war room. We're a huge platform. Look, I'm not a conservative, right. I'm a Republican because I've registered. I'm really a populist nationalist. So as you see here today, these are working class and middle class people and they don't want the concentration of power. And by the way, those oligarchs and people at CNN are understanding, just like they've turned on you, right? They abandoned, they've abandoned the progressive left. They will abandon us in the same thing. They seek power right now. Their feeling is they can see the math and they see that we have a building coalition. So they're with us, but only temporarily. I got to go.

[Mercy Schlapp]

That's fascinating to me because just to hear that from someone who was at the White House on day one of Trump's last term. And then today, you know, Mark Zuckerberg was here in Washington today at the inauguration. We saw all of the CEOs sitting by Trump as he was taking the oath of office.

[Brian Glenn]

He's super skeptical.

[Balaz Orban]

And I mean, one thing does ring.

[Brian Glenn]

True there, that it just occurred to me as he was speaking that Zuckerberg.

[Steve Bannon]

And Twitter at the time, they all banned Trump.

[Brian Glenn]

They kicked Trump off their platforms and many would say rightfully so after January.

[Balaz Orban]

6Th in 2021, just as Biden was coming into office.

[Brian Glenn]

If you look at the date last.

[Balaz Orban]

Month when Trump was about to come.

[Steve Bannon]

Into office was almost around the exact same date that Zuckerberg announced that they were getting rid of fact checks.

[Brian Glenn]

So when you see this point of, of these companies trying to adjust to.

[Steve Bannon]

Whatever administration is coming in, he certainly does have a point there. Yeah.

[Mercy Schlapp]

And it's something we've seen other CEOs do as well. I mean, they announced the changes on.

[Steve Bannon]

Facebook, on Fox, where watch very intentional, yet certainly not on the Steve Bannon Show.

[Mercy Schlapp]

It is fascinating. Tony O'Sullivan on the ground reporting. I'd love to see it.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Brian Glenn]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Yo. It's Thursday the 20th of February, Europe 2025. We're live at CPAC. Dave Brass, my wingman. Got a big crowd here for the start. We're gonna go live to the main stage of Vice President J.D. vance. Here momentarily is going to be interviewed by Mercy Schlapp. To start this off, to start off cpac, we're going to cut live that do have Ben Berkwam. So this year, because I don't know War Room caused so much noise. We have a different location. We're in isolation. We're, we're in a soundproof room now. Our crowd is very, is very rowdy. I want to thank everybody yesterday and thank everybody that came to the Force Multiplier Academy. I think we had five or six hundred people. It was amazing. Jane Zirkel. In fact, Jane, let me talk to you down there. We got Ben Berkwam. Upstairs outside of the main hall. We got our own Jane Zirkel. Calamity Jane's here. Day Brett Jane. Let's talk some of these good War Room Posse folks before they go up to hear the Vice President, your name and what brings you here today. I'm Gordon White and I came here to say Trump 2028. All right, hold on, hold on, hold on, Hang on, hang on, hang on. What do we have to do to get Trump 2028? We just gotta, we gotta keep, we gotta show up and stay loud. Exactly. We've got to maybe work the Constitution too. Although I think there's a way to slip through there. But you never know. Just got to keep repeating it over and over. You got to desensitize them to it.

[Brian Glenn]

Until they get used to it.

[Steve Bannon]

I'd like that. You're good. That's a psy up. You're in a psy up right now, Jane. Who else we got your name. What brings you here today? My name is Joe Biggs. I was one of the proud boy leaders charged with seditious conspiracy and recently let out of prison by Trump on January 20th. All right, we're here trying to get some help to get our military rights back that we've lost in some of our. Joe, talk about that. You're a veteran, right, sir? Yeah, veteran of the US Army, 82nd Airborne. Did two years in Iraq, two years in Afghanistan. And I tried to go to the VA the other day to get help, and I was kicked out. And they threatened to call the cops on me. So. Hold on, hang on. You went to. You went to a VA and what they say, they said I had to leave. They said that while I was in jail that I was court martialed for subversive acts against the United States of America. And therefore they said, you were what? I was court martialed for subversive acts against the US and this happened apparently while I was in solitary. Were you. Were you ever notified of that? No, never. So I did four years in prison, two years of those. I stayed by myself in a room. I was in solitary confinement every day. And what. What prison they have you in? How much time do you have? I was all over the country. Oh, they gave you what called diesel therapy just to break you, to send you around different prisons. Were you guys. Were there. Were the. Were you guys in Lowe's or your medium camps? I had nine points, which means I should have been at a camp. I was at a medium high. Oh, you had nine points. I got the points wrong. You're right. You were below 10, so you should have been in a camp. Why were you not in a camp? Because. Hold on, hold on, hold it. You had points to send you to a camp and they sent you to a medium high? Yes, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you. I was in a low. A medium is gladiator school. A medium high is like next levels are worse than the penitentiaries. Some mediums are worse than pension, and medium highs are worse than penitentiary. I mean, every day was a fight to stay. Are you. Are you saying that the Justice Department and the Bureau of Prisons. Because, you know, we're very involved in trying to claim the Bureau of Prisons. We'd love to have you guys participate. Are you saying the Justice Department, the Bureau of prisons, specifically targeted J6J6ers for worse treatment than they normally would prisoners at the same point rating? Yes. I handed someone a copy of the Constitution and they said that I was handing out right wing propaganda and tribes and to radicalize the inmates. I handed someone a signed copy of a Dinesh Souza book. And they pulled me inside and interrogated me and threw me in the hole. Wow. How long are you in solitary?

[Brian Glenn]

Two years straight.

[Steve Bannon]

Two years straight. Wow. And we got a special event tomorrow. You want to tell people about it now? We'll team up. What? You guys, there's a. There's a collection of you guys tomorrow going to go To Capitol Hill. Yeah. So myself, Enrique Tarrio, Stuart Rhodes at the Oath Keepers and Zachary right here, we're going to be going to the Capitol and talking about our future plans and what it looks like we're going to be doing. Jane, get who are our other colleague right here? Zachary Real. I do, yeah. We love getting convicts on war room, right? We're convict friendly by the way. I'm not a convict, I'm an inmate. You guys are convicts right there. No, seriously, there's a difference in prison do what? We're actually terrorists. Exactly. No, but did they, the thing with the US army, has anybody notified you officially that the US army court martialed? You know, so when I went to the VA to go be seen, they didn't know who I was. So they said, what's your Social Security number and your date of birth? I gave him that. The computer came up and flashed. He looks at me, goes, I've never seen that before. And then his system shut down, locked.

[Brian Glenn]

Him out of the computer and he.

[Steve Bannon]

Said the last thing he saw was that I've been court martialed for subversive acts. So. And you were never notified of any, any UCMJ activity? We obviously got to talk to your lawyers about all that, Sir. Where are you from and where did you, where did you spend your time in Incarcerated. So my name is Zachary Real. I was co defendant with Joe Biggs here and you know, same story with the charges edition and I'm actually a Marine Corps veteran myself. And where did you, where, where were you in the Corps? I was in the Corps, yeah. I was stationed in Yuma, Arizona and I actually got out of the Marine Corps, got two degrees at Temple University, have a master's degree and everything. And what do you have a master's in Innovation management and entrepreneurship. And also. So you're, you're saying up until J6 you were a solid citizen, right? Absolutely, yeah. Like I have. And you were 82nd Airborne and deployed. Right. So up until the day of J6, you were quote unquote, law abiding citizen, served your country, Patriots, education, entrepreneurs, all that, right? Absolutely. Yeah. And you know, it's funny, when I was going through trial, I was actually on the witness. They actually tried to use my military service against me and saying that like, because I was in a Marine Corps that I was more likely to, you know, have plotted some sort of ridiculous plan to like overthrow the government. Are you, are you glad that what President Trump's doing at and Ed Martin's doing over in D.C. cleaning out that rat's nest at US Attorneys. Did those US Attorneys treat you guys fairly, like, like veterans? I mean, I mean, it depends. I absolutely love what President Trump is doing with it, with the this cleaning, cleaning house. I mean, it needs to happen. Like, there's been a lot of a lot of bad things going on in the in our justice system for a long time, and obviously we're gonna get it all the social media real quickly. We got to jump the break. Social media oh, yeah. At Zach Reels the ach R e H o and social media at real Joe Biggs on X. Okay, let's give it up for the J6ers big event tomorrow. We're going to have them here. We're going to have here live at 1, live at 11, and we're going to cover the press conference at 1 from Capitol Hill. Short commercial break Birch Gold Just take your phone out. Bannon 989-898. You know, the bank of England can't deliver on the gold shipments. Maybe says something about central banks buying gold at record rates. Go check out a day Bannon 989898 investing in gold in the Era of Trump. Short commercial break Back at cpac, we're going to Main Stage as soon as the vice president steps up. Have you seen the news from economists forecasting a depression? I'm not talking recession. I mean depression. 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Now, I want to make sure everybody understands you're not actually related to the great Prime Minister, correct?

[Balaz Orban]

No, I'm not. What? I'm working with him.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes. You're, you're, you're, you're the, you're, you're his, you're his strategist, correct?

[Balaz Orban]

Somehow.

[Steve Bannon]

Somehow. Hang on for one second. I want to go. Jane Zirkel. Jane, I think we've given you combat duty today. This is the second group of J6ers, but this is the original. You guys are the guys originally in the gulag in Washington D.C. correct? That's right. Tell us who you are, what you were charged with, and were you treated fairly by the Justice Department and Bop. Go ahead. My name Pete Schwartz. I went to the maximum security penitentiaries. I got sentenced to 14 years, never set foot in the Capitol building, but they went ahead and charged me anyhow. And then right before, three days before Trump's pardons, my case got completely overturned, but they wouldn't let me speak to my lawyers or anything like that. So I still sat in prison until the day Trump pardoned us. And it's great. I'm so glad to be out. Was that, was that, was that a pretty bold and heroic move of President Trump? Because the pressure even in the Republican Party was to not do any J6ers at all. He did everybody. It was the right thing to do. I mean, it was absolutely. Why was it the right thing? Was it the right thing to do? Because, number one, promises made, promises kept. Number two, we were unfairly charged. Even the people who. There's been this left wing narrative talking about violent, nonviolent. And that's all a false narrative. It's left wing stuff because a lot of the people charged with violence weren't guilty of violence. I mean, when you go to D.C. and you're charged with something and you're a Trump supporter, you're getting convicted, it doesn't matter what you're charged with, doesn't matter who you are, you are going down. So it's absolutely the right. Because the jury, because the judges and the juries, it's all federal court and all the juries are 97% people, 98% people that not just vote against Trump, but hey, Trump hate maga, right?

[Brian Glenn]

They Hate us.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean absolutely hate us. It's insane. Like they're disconnected from reality. That Trump derangement syndrome is 100% real pentat. Jane, let's go. Let's try to get everybody in your name and your experience. Michael Thomas Curzio, full blood, red blooded American patriot showed up at the Capitol on January 6, the protest, got charged for picketing, parading and demonstrating. Maxed out six months. I didn't get no game time or anything. They painted me as this nasty person. Used all my background against me. Hey, we went to have our voices heard. We were set up. Nobody should have been. When you say you were set up, what do you mean by that, sir? Well, are you, are you a conspiracy theorist or do you think there's a fact.

[Brian Glenn]

I'm a fact.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, the fact you think this is a, you're saying, you're implying this is a fed direction 100%. What do you mean by that?

[Brian Glenn]

It came out that there was, it came out that there was federal informants.

[Steve Bannon]

And confidential human resources in the crowd. And it turns out that at least.

[Brian Glenn]

Three or four of them actually broke.

[Steve Bannon]

The law by entering the Capitol. We know that the FBI has said the former FBI director, by the way, Cash Patel, today at 1:00, I want to make sure everybody 202-224-3121. Right. And cash has been one of those guys's recommendation to Cash Patel help us investigate everyone that had anything to do with J6 from the FBI down to.

[Brian Glenn]

The way the DC jail treated us.

[Steve Bannon]

Down to the way the US Marshals.

[Brian Glenn]

Treated us and everything.

[Steve Bannon]

A lot of us here, we, we've seen the, the underbelly of the BoP and the legal industry and all that. And a lot of us here would like to work on prison reform. So. No, no, we're going to, we're going to get you guys. So Peter Navarro, myself and Jared are working on prison reform now. We're including you guys. We got to get the input, particularly you guys that went to mediums, medium highs and penitentiaries. Yeah, those have got to be, they got to be addressed. Right. We know what's wrong and where it's wrong. Okay, let's go back here for a second. I just want to know on the, on the Fed direction part, you want a full transparent. Either the Congress does it or the Justice Department does it or FBI, but you want all the facts out there. Public hearings where you guys would testify but you be cross examined, things like that, where you have no fear of that. No, no fear of all the information, let me tell you one thing. This is how I feel. A lot of people feel, okay? For every corruption, person that was part.

[Brian Glenn]

Of that, every J6 or that was released should be. Their cell should be filled with anybody.

[Steve Bannon]

That had anything to do with it. Accountability, accountability, accountability. You want transparency and accountability? What about people throughout the country or others, the right people that were in President Trump's ear saying, hey, you had a jury trial and it was a jury of your peers and that. And there was the guys that sentenced you. What do you have to say that? What's your response? A jury of your peers would be an unbiased jury of your peers. You have what's called a right to change a venue.

[Brian Glenn]

And they denied every single one of us that. They wouldn't let us talk to our.

[Steve Bannon]

Lawyers, get our proper discoveries. They, they took the whole constitutional rights away from us because they said that everything that happened was unprecedented. That doesn't mean that we're not American citizens and that we don't fall under the jurisdiction of the United States of America. When you went through the system, did it shock you about how the judges, in certain, these, certain cases, the judges, the law enforcement, and once you got in the Bureau of prison, how corrupt it is and how crooked it is?

[Balaz Orban]

Yes, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, My, My name is Jessica Watkins. I'm one of the Oath Keeper defendants. They charge us with seditious conspiracy. They charge us with destruction of government property. I was found not guilty on those charges at trial. I had obstruction of an official proceeding. Well, hang on this. Under Fisher, that was a phony charge that was reversed by the Supreme Court later. Were you released immediately after that was reversed by the Supreme Court? Didn't they come. Didn't the jailer come and open up your cell and let you go that day? No, not at all. Actually. We filed a motion and my judge denied it. I was going to only have like a civil disorder charge and I've done four years, three days. My judge refused to let me go. Even though we. Were you in a camp or were you in a. I was in a medium security women's position. Hold on. Hold, hold it. They sent you to a medium security prison?

[Balaz Orban]

Yes, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

How many points did you have? People should know. Under 10 points. Is it about your background or your history? Under 10 points, you automatically, virtually go to a camp. Correct? Right. It's supposed to be. My points were actually zero. I can't. You had zero points. You had a totally clean record on the day of J6. You had nothing, good citizen, nothing yes, sir, I'm a veteran. I was a firefighter and an EMT. I was actually at January 6th to be a medic, sir. I actually dragged people out of the Capitol building on my shoulders and rescued them and brought them to the ambulances. Can you tell the nation right now what it's like being in a medium security prison as a woman? It was pretty terrible, frankly. The facilities are terrible. The staff actually four days before I was part well set free. I was commuted. I had a, a lieutenant jack me against the fence and, and dragged me and she threw me in what's called the shoe, which is a special housing and it's the hole. Yeah. And I hadn't done anything. Why did you go to the shoe? No reason. Reason. Are you saying they selected out, Am I hearing they select out the J6 prisoners in the Bureau of prison for worse treatment? Yes, sir. Yeah, she, she physically grabbed me, she left bruises all over me and beat me against the fence and threw me in. Oh, is J.D. on stage? Okay, we're gonna cut right now. We're gonna go live. We'll come back to all you guys. We're gonna go live to the stage. The Vice President, United States, JD Vance is up there, gonna be interviewed by Mercy Slap.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Are you a little jet lagged or no?

[Brian Glenn]

You know, Yes, I am a little jet lagged. So we, we did a trip where we went to France and then to Germany and then we went to San Diego for a family wedding and then back in D.C. and we did all that in like seven days. So a little jet lag, that's.

[Balaz Orban]

Okay.

[Brian Glenn]

Well, I brought, I, I, I, I, I'm in, I'm in a good place right now. I got some sleep last night.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Okay, good, then we're ready. We're ready. But it's a real special day today. You know what today is, guys? It's February 20th. That means our 31st, 30 days, the happy one month anniversary of the Trump Vance administration. I mean, how exciting is that?

[Brian Glenn]

It's, it's very exciting. It's hard to believe we've only been in office for a month because I think we've done more in a month than Biden did in about four years. And thank God for that. But you know, the President keeps us on a pretty breakneck pace. He always asks, what have we done today? What are we going to do tomorrow? What are we going to do next week? Because I think he realizes this is a special moment in time. And by the way, thank you. Thanks to all of you for making it possible for us to do all the great work we've been doing in the administration. I know we wouldn't have been here without you. But I think the President is a acutely aware that the American people gave us a window to save the country and that's exactly what we're going to do. And thank God for that because it's been a hell of a lot of fun the past month.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Okay, so I don't even think we can keep track of all the things you all are doing.

[Brian Glenn]

In fact, I don't even think the.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Press can keep track of all they're doing. I mean, they talk about the shock and awe strategy. Seriously. So when you're looking at this list after list after list, what stands out to you?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, speaking of the press, I do think that we've had maybe more executive orders than CNN has viewers night. So hello to our friends at cnn. I think, I actually think that their plan was they were going to go all in on anti Trump and hope that he could save CNN in the same way that he did frankly in 2017, because nobody really watched the network until, until he became president in 2017. But that's maybe the one thing I think the President has been able to do. Unable to save CNN's ratings over the last, over the last few, few months. But look, I think that what the President has tried to do is recognize that we have a historical mandate on a few issues. We have to secure the southern border and thanks to his actions, border crossings are down well over 90%. And we're just getting started. He recognizes that we have to really unlock the engine of American growth. We've got to get back to having a growing economy that creates good jobs and high wages for the American people. And a lot of that goes back to drill, baby, drill. We've done more on energy under President Trump's leadership than I think any administration in history. And that's not an exaggeration. And of course we're going to do more. And I think the third thing that he's tried to do, of course with the help of Elon and all the great folks at Doge, is ask what are we doing with all of the American taxpayers money and why are we wasting so much of it on garbage that the American people either aren't aware that we're spending it on or don't want to be spending it on in the first place. Like for example, the stuff that we've figured out, Mercedes, is unbelievable. Why are we spending money on progressive modern art projects centered around Toilets in Afghanistan. That's actually something that your tax dollars were funding until very recently. And I think all of us are sitting around and asking, what the hell are we doing with the American people's money for the last four years? Let's turn off the spigot and spin the American people's tax money on the American people's priority. And that's, of course, been a big focus in the administration, too.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Let's dig deeper into to the immigration issue.

[Brian Glenn]

Sure.

[Mercy Schlapp]

We've seen, and you've met many of the victims, people who have family members who have died, been tragically, tragically murdered. Those angel families in the hands of these criminal, illegal aliens.

[Brian Glenn]

Sure.

[Mercy Schlapp]

What's your message to these families? What is. And then what is your message to these horrific drug cartels and human traffickers who have preyed on the most vulnerable in the world?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, our message to the drug traffickers is get the hell out of our country. Your free ride is over because President Trump is back in the Oval Office. That is, you're not welcome. You were never welcome, according to the American people. But unfortunately, you had President Joe Biden, who allows you to run free over the United States of America. And Donald Trump has said, you're terrorist organizations. We're going to go after you, we're going to wage war on you. And certainly we want you out of the United States of America. And that's an important message, of course. But our message, and you know this, Mercedes, our message to the families is President Trump cares about you. He thinks that it's disgraceful what your own government let happen to your children, to your grandchildren, and it's got to stop. And, of course, we mourn with people, we pray for people, but we're also asking, as their government, why did this happen to your child in the first place? And the answer is that under Joe Biden, your government didn't do its job. Under Donald Trump, it is, thank God for that.

[Mercy Schlapp]

On the economy. And I'm getting this question all the time. You know, it's this question of affordability.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Mercy Schlapp]

There's a lot of stress on our families, something that I think Joe Biden could not manage in terms of, of really helping lower that cost of living and making things just simply more affordable. Sure, we talked about energy independence being a critical component of this, of ensuring and making things just simply more affordable. Sure, we talked about energy independence being a critical component of this, of ensuring that we unleash this economic prosperity. What more needs to be done?

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah. So one of the first interviews I did it was, I think, six or seven days after the inauguration. And somebody asked me, well, it's been six days. What have you got to fix the inflation crisis created by Joe Biden? I'm like, well, first of all, it's been six days. We've done a lot in six days. But it's going to take some time to fix what Joe Biden broke over four years. And we know it is easy, unfortunately, to burn the house down. It takes a little bit of time to build it back up. And here's what we have to do, because, look, the fundamental goal of our immigration policy, of our border policy, of doge saving taxpayer money, the fundamental goal is we want your children and grandchildren to be able to raise a family in security and comfort in the country that we all love. That is the whole goal of President Trump's agenda, like safety and prosperity. Right. It's pretty common sense stuff. And we know that to do that, we have to, first of all, unleash American energy. Now, why is that so important? Because, look, if, you know, we all know, grocery prices got too high under Joe Biden's leadership. Well, one of the main drivers of groceries is energy, because if the farmers are paying more for energy, then we're all paying more for what the farmers grow. And if the truck drivers who are delivering the groceries are paying more for fuel, then we're all paying more for what the truck drivers are delivering to the grocery store. If we unleash American energy, that will do more than anything to drive down the cost for the American people. The second thing, Mercedes, is we have got to stop spending the American people's money on garbage. Every dollar, every dollar that we take in and spend, you have to pay for either through taxes or through, through inflation. And if we spend the American people's money more wisely, if we stop taxing and spending the American people to death, that's also going to bring relief to all of the pricing pressures that are out there. We're going to make it affordable to live in this country again. That's our mandate, that's our goal. And you're right, there's a lot more that we can do. But I think we've got a pretty good start. After 30 days, we've got a pretty.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Good start, but we've got this big, beautiful one bill budget reconciliation scenario. How is that working? What are the dynamics that are happening right now in Congress and what the administration is doing to ensure that A lot of what the President is wanting to do in terms of really pushing forward with Economic prosperity and his tax relief initiatives gets done with these bills.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, it's really important. So the Senate obviously has its own approach, and the President has been very clear that his preference is to put everything in one bill.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Right.

[Brian Glenn]

And part of that is just simple legislative strategy. I think the President has learned a lot about how D.C. works. And I actually talked to the President about this yesterday, and he said to me, look, it's very rare that you can get two reconciliation bills done in one Congress. Which is why he thinks we've got to do a lot with that one big, beautiful bill, that first reconciliation package that we're going to get through the House and the Senate. It's going well. It's early. Right. This stuff takes time to put together. I think, you know, if you had a record PACE reconciliation bill, we would get this thing done in May or in June. I think we're on track to do that. But we've got to do some basic things. Mercedes. One, like I said, we've got to continue to unleash American energy. That's part of the reconciliation bill. We've got to make sure that other countries stop taking advantage of. That's a big part of President Trump's tariff policy, is we got to stop being taken advantage of. You know, of course, we want to make the President Trump tax cuts permanent and extend them into the future. We want no taxes on tips. We got to do some of the things we talked about during the campaign. That's got to be part of it. And then finally, and this is really important, everything the President has done on the border, we have got to empower him to do it, not just for a month, but for the next few, four years. And we've got to. We've got to hire more Border Patrol agents. We got to give Tom Homan and Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem the resources they need to secure the border and just not. Not to return to the border. But I think so many of our issues come back to the border because if you take 30, 40 million illegal aliens, you take Medicare fraud, Social Security fraud, why are we taking the people's Social Security payments and giving it to illegal aliens? We know that's happening in the United States of America today. We've got to stop it. If you get control of the border, Mercedes, you do more to control the fiscal problem, the financial problems that we have in this country, than almost anything. Get illegal aliens out of our country. Make sure American tax dollars go to American people. That is how you solve the fiscal crisis in the United States of America.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Shifting to your incredible speech at the Munich conference. Did you all watch that?

[Steve Bannon]

I don't know.

[Mercy Schlapp]

I think there.

[Brian Glenn]

I'm glad you guys liked it. Not everybody liked it. You guys liked it. Not everybody liked it. Thank you.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Okay.

[Brian Glenn]

I'll take a standing ovation for a speech. I already gave, like, two for the price of one.

[Balaz Orban]

Yeah.

[Mercy Schlapp]

I was gonna say. Here's your speech.

[Brian Glenn]

Just say it again.

[Steve Bannon]

All right.

[Mercy Schlapp]

But it was. It was fascinating because there was obviously some of these European leaders that, you know, they were a little uptight about it. It stressed them out just a little bit.

[Brian Glenn]

A little bit.

[Mercy Schlapp]

But you talked about the greatest threats in Europe.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah. So, look, the greatest threat in Europe, and I'd say it was the greatest threat in the United states until about 30 days ago, is that you've had the leaders of the west decide that they should send millions and millions of unvetted foreign migrants into their countries. That is the biggest threat to Europe. And frankly, it remains, by the way, the biggest threat to the United States, because, yes, we've got four years of President Trump's leadership, but I guarantee you, if the Democrats ever get power again, they're going to try to do it again. We cannot rebuild Western civilization. We cannot rebuild the United States of America or Europe by letting millions and millions of unvetted illegal migrants come into our country. It has to stop. Thank God it stopped here, but it's got to stop there. And a related issue, Mercedes, is you can't just stop it. You have to allow European peoples, and of course the American people, too, to raise issues about it. You have to allow free speech to debate this stuff. You have to stop doing things to the populations of the world. You've got to give the populations of the world the opportunity to speak up and say, no more of this bs. We want borders. We want sovereignty. We want to be able to speak our own mind in our own country. And I guarantee you, if. If we don't allow free speech. And of course, the Biden administration. I made this point, Mercedes. The Biden administration did more to destroy free speech, not just in the United States, but also in Europe, than any administration in American history. I'm not even blaming the Europeans. I'm actually saying you follow the lead of Joe Biden into censorship and mass migration. Follow the lead of Donald J. Trump, and that's free speech, borders and sovereignty. That is the future for our shared civilization.

[Mercy Schlapp]

And I will tell you something that is really, truly remarkable. That's happening at CPAC is. And we had our second CPAC international summit yesterday. And we have many of these European conservative European leaders with us today, where we stand in solidarity because they have an opportunity to basically make Europe great again, make Asia great again, make Latin America great again. And so, in essence, I think your message was very well received by many of those conservative leaders across the globe. But what does this mean with the U.S. now that you know, in giving that speech, what does this mean with the US Relationship with Europe?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, look, obviously we're going to continue to have important alliances with Europe, but I really do think the strength of those alliances is going to depend on whether we take our societies in the right direction. Think about this. Germany's entire defense is subsidized by the American taxpayer. There are thousands upon thousands of American troops in Germany today. Do you think that the American taxpayer is going to stand for that? If you get thrown in jail in Germany for posting a mean tweet of. Of course they're not. Right. So the point that I try to make to our European friends, and I think that they're our friends, I believe that, I know President Trump does, is that friendship is based on shared values. You do not have shared values if you're jailing people for saying we should close down our border. You don't have shared values if you cancel elections because you don't like the result and that happened in Romania. You don't have. You do not have shared values if you're so afraid of your own people that you silence them and shut them up. So let's have shared values. Let's defend democracy. Let's have free expression, not just in the United States, but all over the Western world. That is the path to strong alliances in Europe.

[Mercy Schlapp]

We had Ambassador Rick Riddell with us yesterday. He'll be on the CPAC stage during these conferences. He has like three jobs or four or five.

[Brian Glenn]

Yes.

[Mercy Schlapp]

But let me ask you this. Where are we on our, basically the status of the Russia, Ukraine moving forward in terms of these negotiations, in bringing peace to this endless war?

[Brian Glenn]

You know, it's, it's, it's early. And I think what President Trump, what makes him such an effective negotiator, I've seen this in private, is that he doesn't take anything off the table when he walks into negotiation. He says everything is on the table. And of course, that makes the heads explode in the American media because they say, why are you talking to Russia? Well, how are you going to end the war unless you're talking to Russia? You've got to talk to everybody involved in the fighting, if you actually want to bring the conflict to a close, and I know the president does. But I'll tell you the goals that animate President Trump's policy. It's really simple. He wants the killing to stop. He wants to bring lasting peace to Europe. He doesn't just want to stop it now and have the war restart a month from now. He wants to bring lasting peace to Europe. Because the president believes this, and he's absolutely right. Peace is in the interest of Russia, it's in the interest of Ukraine, it's in the interest of Europe. But most importantly, peace is in the interest of the American people. And he's going to fight for it for the remainder of his administration. Wherever war breaks out, he's going to be the president of peace. Now, he, of course, is a very good negotiator, a very good businessman. He recognizes that a lot of these issues are tough. It's going to take a smart statesman to figure this stuff out. But we've got that in the White House. And I really believe that we're in the country cusp of peace in Europe for the first time in three years because we have leadership from the Oval Office, and we haven't had it in four years in this country.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Matt and I mentioned this right when we started the conference. We're honored by the presence of two hostages that were freed after the Hamas atrocity, the tragedy that we've seen happen. And we have several of the family members as well, who still. Their loved ones are still being detained by Hamas. What is your message to these hostage families, these survivors?

[Brian Glenn]

Our message is that President Trump loves you. He hasn't forgotten your loved ones, and he's gonna fight every single day to bring them home. That is exactly what he's been doing, and that's what he'll keep on doing. I was actually talking with one of my best friends about this a couple of days ago.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Can I be your best friend, too?

[Brian Glenn]

Yes.

[Mercy Schlapp]

I think we all want to be your best friend. Right? Okay. Okay.

[Brian Glenn]

But I was talking with him, and he was asking, asking me. He was like, well, I don't understand. Why was Biden unable to do this? And then, like, the minute that Donald Trump won, we started to make progress in bringing the hostages home. And I said, man, it's just a question of leadership. You actually need a president who is willing to pick up the phone and say, you got to bring these people home. No, no, no, no, we don't. We're not focused on that crap right now. Were focused on Bringing hostages home. And then when the negotiations hit a wall, because they always do, you need a President who picks up the phone and says, cut this crap out. We've got to make progress and you've got to keep that pace going. It's leadership. It really is. And I saw it behind the scenes. And what the. And what the President did, is he empowered in particular, because this, remember, this was before we were inaugurated. This is before we had our great Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, or any of the great people around us. You know, the President sent his. His dear friend, and he's become my dear friend, Steve Witkoff, as an emissary of the President, United States. And he said, steve, you speak for me, get it done. And if there are problems, pick up the phone and call me. Steve Witkoff, with the President's leadership. Got it done. And it's amazing. And of course, we still got work to do. We've got a finish the process. But I really believe the President is as committed to this as any American leader in my lifetime. We're going to keep on fighting for it.

[Mercy Schlapp]

One of the issues that's central to the CPAC community is the issue of pro life, of course. And what is the administration going to do to defend the unborn, to provide support for those mothers, those fathers that choose life?

[Brian Glenn]

Sure. Well, you know, one of the things, of course, the President got done during the first term, and I think that it's why he is accurately called the most pro life president in American history, is he finally made it possible for the will of the people to speak on the life issue. And that was the Dobbs decision. What that did is it gave the abortion question back to the people. It took it out of the hands of unelected bureaucrats and unelected judges and gave it back to the people. And I think the most important thing that we can do, and as you know, Mercedes, I'm very pro life, I'm a devout Christian, is that we have got to persuade our fellow Americans, because now we've got the power, We've got the power of persuasion. We've got to persuade our fellow citizens that unborn life is worthy of protecting. It is sacred in the eyes of God, and it should be sacred in the eyes of man, too. And we have to pick up the torch and fight for that every single day. And I know you guys are up for the task. I am, too. And I think on the administration side, what the President has said, and it's been consistent, it's going to be consistent in the Rhetoric and in the policy is, we believe in the Trump administration that babies are good, that families are good, and we want to make it easier for young moms and young dads to choose life, to start families and to bring new life into the world. That's the whole point of our policy. Now, some of that, of course, is supporting our great crisis pregnancy centers at the moment of these important health care decisions, encouraging young women to choose life at that important moment of choice. Some of that is bringing costs down so that, you know, young moms and dads don't look to the future and a new baby and say, how can I afford this? And if they're able to actually afford to raise a family, maybe they'll start thinking of babies as the blessings that we all know that they are. And I think. But I think fundamentally, this is going to take a lot of leadership from the president on down, but from every single person in this room, we have got to persuade our fellow citizens to stop thinking about babies as inconveniences to be discarded. We've got to start thinking them as blessings to cherish. And that's exactly what I promised to do.

[Mercy Schlapp]

So now we're going to get personal. This is so fun, your faith.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Why is it so important to you? What does it mean to you? Tell us why, when you go every single day to work, how faith is a part of who you are?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, I mean, first is, I believe the fundamental tenet of the Christian faith. It's not just a set of good moral principles, though. It is that I think the fundamental tenet of our faith is that the son of God became man. He died, and then he raised himself from the dead. That is the fundamental tenet of the Christian faith. And I think so much flows from that. And I think one lesson that flows from that is that we shouldn't fear death. Of course, death is a very bad thing, but there are much more terrible things than just losing one's life. And importantly, you could lose one's soul. And I think whether it's fighting for the unborn or fighting for peace and security for our citizens, I want us to be the kind of society where my kids can grow up to be virtuous young people can be good young Christians, of course, because that's what I'm trying to raise them to be. And that's what our public policy is trying to do, creating the space where moms and dads can raise their children in their faith to become good young people who believe the things that I do. That is What I'm trying to create is the space for you, of course, to raise your children as you see fit, but the space for me to raise my kids to be the kind of young people that I think they ought to be. And the other thing that I take from it, Mercedes, is if you look at the long history of the Christian faith, we've been around for about 2,000 years now, give or take a few. Few years. And there have been really dark times in the history of the Christian faith. There have been really good times in the history of the Christian faith. And I just try to remind myself that we put our faith in God above. We put our faith in the grace of God, and we try the best to do his will. And we don't worry so much about whether we're going to have earthly rewards. We worry about whether we're doing right by God Almighty above. That's what I try to do, and that's how I try to run my life in public.

[Mercy Schlapp]

You mentioned raising these children into good people and also into good citizens that can contribute to society and to the world. We had so many young people come out and support Donald Trump.

[Brian Glenn]

Yes, we did.

[Mercy Schlapp]

And J.D. vance, and thank you this past election. So what is your message? And I really. What is your message to the young men?

[Brian Glenn]

You know, I guess my message to young people generally is we're trying to make your life better. And that is the simple thrust of President Trump's policy, is we want you to be able to buy a home, we want you to be able to work a good job. We want you to be able to raise your kids, like I said, according to the values that you believe in. And we want you to be able to build a nice life in this country that all of us love. That is what we're trying to do. And, you know, you guys, more than. More than anybody, more than me, I'm talking about people under the age of 30 in particular, you guys are going to have to deal with the consequences of good policy or of bad policy for much longer than the rest of us. And I just. I want you guys to think about the future and ask yourself, do you want safe communities? Do you want a prosperous life? Do you want to be able to work a good job? Or do you want that job shipped off to China or somewhere else? We're fighting for you every single day. We want you to help fight for us because we've got to win, not just. Not just the policy battles of the next couple of months. We've got to win the midterm elections in a couple of years. We need you. We recognize that we need you, and we're fighting for you every single day. And I think, you know, you asked me. My message to young men is I think that our culture sends a message to young men that you should suppress every masculine urge. You should try to cast aside your family. You should try to suppress what makes you a young man in the first place. And I think that my message to young men is don't allow this broken culture to send you a message that you're a bad person because you're a man, because you like to tell a joke, because you like to have a beer with your friends or because you're competitive. It's like our message, the cultural message, and I think the President's and mine is the exact opposite. But our cultural message is I think that it wants to turn everybody, whether male or female, into androgynous idiots who think the same, talk the same, and act the same. We actually think God made male and female for a purpose. And we want you guys to thrive as young men and as young women. And we're going to help with our public policy to make it possible to do that. And by the way, I actually think, Mercedes, this is the thing that President Trump, this is why the media went after him so hard, is because when I think about what is the essence of masculinity, you could answer this in so many different ways. But when I think about me and my guy friends, we really like to tell jokes to one another. Like, we like to laugh. You think of all the movies that.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Were really popular, saying, you're pretty funny.

[Brian Glenn]

I try to be.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Okay, President Trump. Who's funnier? Who's funnier?

[Brian Glenn]

President Trump. All right, let's be honest.

[Mercy Schlapp]

There you go.

[Brian Glenn]

He's got the best. He's got the best sense of humor of any American political figure. But I think this is why young men in particular are so, you know, they're so inspired by President Trump, is because he doesn't allow the media to tell him he can't make a joke or he can't have an original thought. President Trump just says what's on his mind. That's a damn good thing. And it's a good example to set for young men in American culture.

[Mercy Schlapp]

You know, I always tell my five daughters, I don't have any sons, but Matt and I, we have five beautiful daughters. And I always say, you know, the most important decision you'll ever make is who you marry. That's right, always who you marry. And you made a very important decision in marrying Usha.

[Brian Glenn]

I did. I did. I married up. I married up.

[Mercy Schlapp]

She is a beautiful second lady. And I want to know, what is the best advice Usha has given you?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, one.

[Steve Bannon]

This is so fun.

[Brian Glenn]

Okay, this is gonna be very personal. One piece of advice she gave me like a week ago was, you should be nicer on social media. I don't know that I'll take that advice. Some advice is good, Some advice is, you know, it can be good, but you don't have to always take it.

[Mercy Schlapp]

You sound like my husband.

[Brian Glenn]

The best advice Usha ever gave me when it comes. I mean, she gave me so many good life advices or pieces of advice, but the best advice she gave me when it came to politics is don't let them filter you. And in politics, you know, you've got consultants and you got media professionals, you've got pollsters, you've got a lot of people who try to tell you what to say or how to behave or, you know, what to do. And Usha just said, just be yourself. Be authentic. Go out there and say what's actually on your mind. Maybe a little nicer from time to time. But I think that's the best advice that she gave me. And that's why we take our kids everywhere. And that's why I'm not afraid to make a joke on social media, even if it's sometimes a dad joke. I forgive, you know, forgive me, all of you who don't like dad jokes, but you just gotta be yourself. And I think that's President Trump's superpower in American politics. And that's probably the best advice Usha ever gave me, at least on politics.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Okay, last question. What inspires you every day?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, I mean, one is my family, right? I mean, I'm blessed to have a seven year old, a five year old, and a three year old, and I can't help but see the country through their eyes. And when we were on the campaign in particular, and we would take our kids with us, all of my kids, when we were about to land in some new place, you know, they'd all rush to the window of the plane and they look out and they'd say, oh, dad, this looks so cool. Like, you know, the beauty of the Arizona cactuses and Arizona deserts, or, you know, we'd be in Texas for a fundraiser and they'd be like, oh, my God, like, look at just all of that open space, right? Or we'd be in North Carolina and say, oh, look how beautiful The Green Mountains, right? This idea of these beautiful green mountains of Appalachian. North Carolina. We love North Carolina. And I guess what inspires me is you can't help but be hopeful and energetic and optimistic about this country when you see it through the eyes of a child. So I hope I never lose that perspective because it doesn't inspire me every day.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Well, Mr. Vice President, you inspire us every day. We are praying for you. We are praying for your family. We are praying for this incredible administration for, of course, President Donald Trump. And we are honored that you are here with our CPAC family.

[Brian Glenn]

And I'm honored to be here.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Thank you.

[Brian Glenn]

Thank you.

[Mercy Schlapp]

Thank you so much.

[Brian Glenn]

Thank you all. I love you guys. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. We're here at CPAC Live Real America's Voice. Fascinating interview right there. Mercy Schlapp, Vice President of the United States, J.D. vance. That kicks off CPAC. CPAC's gonna be pretty explosive this year, correct?

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

That's called a micro. Are you eating, brat? Dude, you eat. You pounded down a donut. Is that what we're doing here? It's not visible to the camera. It's not visible camera. Okay, we've got, we've got Balaz Orban here. Tell us Viktor Orban is a hero here in the United States to maga. Why is that?

[Balaz Orban]

You should tell us.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, no, no, I want to hear why. What do you guys think?

[Balaz Orban]

It's a, it's a great show, what we have here. And we remember now CPAC is extremely popular. Everybody wants to be here.

[Steve Bannon]

Cpac, Hungary is going to be when.

[Balaz Orban]

It wasn't the case a couple of years ago, but we were here and we were fighting for the same, same things. But we are fighting. And most probably this is why my prime minister is.

[Steve Bannon]

Tell us what the fight is in Hungary and why is that? Why is Orban so close to the president and why is he considered the bridge, particularly as the president's, you know, trying to think through geo strategically, geo economically, what we're doing in Europe, particularly with Russia. Why is Orban so important?

[Balaz Orban]

Because I think in very much, it's very much in line with what was said by the vice president that, that we are fighting for our civilization. So it's not the usual political, ideological fight between two political parties. It's about the survival of our civilization. Because the liberals in the last years, last decade, they destroyed everything. What made us, made us strong and powerful. And now if we are not able to push them back, then our countries will go down as it happened in the United States as it's happening in in Brussels which is the liberal capital of of of Europe. And Hungary is leading the resistance now against the Brussels and liberal talk about.

[Steve Bannon]

That resistance as doge and other these efforts to get back to the US budget. We're finding out now usaid which I think was hidden from everybody. This one aspect of it funded a lot of the negative media throughout Europe and particularly in Hungary. You guys are calling for an audit or you're calling for a full exposure of money that went in from the US government.

[Balaz Orban]

Actually American people, American taxpayers money was spent the sand to try to delegitimize the Hungarian government and the conservative values which are shared by them. Many many, many of the American taxpayers money.

[Steve Bannon]

When you say you're fighting for your to save your civilization over here, that sounds like a political cliche. What does that mean? Because it's useful for Americans to hear other cultures speak to saving civilization. What does that mean for you?

[Balaz Orban]

Well, we are, we are an old nation in the middle of Hungary, a thousand years old. It's a landlocked country, but not a mine. Look one we have a very unique culture, a unique language and we appreciate the traditional values which are, which are helping us to make the next generation strong. I mean you need to have family, you need to have kids, you need to remain sovereign. You need to be able to secure your borders. You need to be able to provide freedom and the work opportunity for the people. This is what good government is for. And now these liberal institutional structures, as it is happening in the States and as it is happening in Brussels, they are working against this. It's so obvious that we are standing here and we need to not reform the structure and build a new one.

[Steve Bannon]

And a majority of your people share this strongly. So how does this like in this country A minority in the media and.

[Balaz Orban]

Elites almost seize power when, when the migrants in 2015. That was, that was a year when 400,000 people illegal migrants wanted to march across our country. And the Prime Minister said that no, no, no, no, it's not going to happen. Law and order, we close the borders, we build a fan and we didn't let them in. And, and then we organized a referendum. We asked the people because that was an issue which has not existed before in a democracy. You have to ask the people if something serious happens, you have to ask them what, what should be the respond on the government side. So we initiated the national referendum. Overwhelming majority of the Hungarians, even those who disagree with the government on many points. You're saying you did the right thing. You, you didn't let them in and you should stick to this plan.

[Steve Bannon]

70%.

[Balaz Orban]

It's 90.

[Steve Bannon]

90%. And then 90% of people just said no way. We don't want people coming through our country. We don't settle country illegal. Yes.

[Balaz Orban]

And what is happening now is that Brussels, it has a pro migration position. So they launched legal attack against Hungary and they used the judiciary as they used it in the United States as well, against the country. And now we are under a sanction. We have to pay every day 1 million euro, which is that we are not letting the migrants in, which is a huge amount of, of money. It's almost 400 million euros per year.

[Steve Bannon]

And.

[Balaz Orban]

But my prime minister says that it's even worse if you did because it would cost much more if we let them in.

[Steve Bannon]

But Hungary hasn't had any of the problems you've seen in Germany and France. None of the attacks, none of, none of the collapse of really big parts of society. What you're seeing in England, none of the problems that have come from having that just open borders.

[Balaz Orban]

It's so simple. If you don't have the illegal migrants, the streets and the cities are safe and sound and you don't have terrorist attacks. It's, it's not rocket science. It's, it's simple fact.

[Steve Bannon]

Like I want to go back though. I don't think people in our country just becoming aware, I want to be specific. US taxpayer money went to fund media operations that went against Orban and his government for what he was doing specifically to save his country that had 90% support of the people. Even many people don't agree with Orban politically on many things, support him on this. And you had taxpayer money going in to support these organizations there to destroy Viktor Orban.

[Balaz Orban]

And the situation is even worse because George Soros and his organization, I've heard of that name. George Soros is a well known, it's a well known name here in the States as well. And he is dedicatedly against, against Orban and against the Hungarian government. And he.

[Steve Bannon]

Why is he so determined to destroy Orban's government?

[Balaz Orban]

Because he wanted to take over Hungary and we didn't let it happen. So he is furious. He wants to get rid of with the government and he convinced the Biden administration to use the taxpayers money to help his organizations operating in Hungary and Brussels.

[Steve Bannon]

So as an opposition to Orban.

[Balaz Orban]

As an opposition and paid for by.

[Steve Bannon]

US taxpayers in the Biden. The Biden regime.

[Balaz Orban]

Yeah. So I don't see the point why American taxpayers money should be spent to buy multi billionaires to support multi billionaires. Political.

[Steve Bannon]

He's for the open society, though, so he's open to all these ideas of democracy.

[Balaz Orban]

Yes, it's. It's a good joke.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's open borders. Okay, talk to us about cpac, Hungary and talk us about going forward. Where do you see Orban's role? Hungary's role? President Trump thinks very highly of Orban. I think he sees Orban as one of the potential bridges of the United States into Europe. Walk us through what's happening now and going forward, particularly with President Trump.

[Balaz Orban]

Until now, we have been actually the only country in the liberal ocean who wanted to lead the resistance. Now we have a friend on our side. So it's rebelling to hear that. You can talk about how bad migration is, you can talk about how important to protect Christian values is, and it's a completely new world order, a new reality for ourselves. I think it's very good for United States of America, but it's not my job to decide that it should be decided by the American people. But I'm 100% sure that it's very good for Europe and very good for my country. So we hope and think about the war. I mean, for like, three years, we were constantly saying that this war has to end because it has no reason.

[Steve Bannon]

And Orban was criticized for that. You're saying they're a puppet of Putin and. And you guys are ostracized or the next. Is there any facts on the ground that lead you to believe that Orban was wrong about the decision he made, which is same. The same position war room took from the very beginning.

[Balaz Orban]

You know, how do you. If you take seriously that you want to end the war, how. How do you want to do it? If you are not restoring communication channels between those who are fighting, it's impossible. So then you are not saying seriously that your goal is to end the war. You want to fight the war. If there is no communication, it means that you want to fight the war and you want to destroy your enemy. It's. It's. And I think we Westerners, and especially not the Hungarians, shouldn't focus on trying to destroy each other and trying to destroy the Russians. We should find a way to peacefully coexistence because.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you think there's a way to peacefully coexist with the Russians in Europe?

[Balaz Orban]

I think it's.

[Steve Bannon]

Viktor Orban thinks that.

[Balaz Orban]

I think it's possible, and I'm very happy to see that the American administration is working to find a way, let's talk about that.

[Steve Bannon]

They're trying to find a way, obviously. But what about President Trump's observations or criticisms about Zelensky and Zelensky's government in the last 72 hours?

[Balaz Orban]

You know, like these are just facts and you don't argue with facts. So this is, this is the reality. This is how things are, are looking like. And, and I, I'm, I'm Hungarian, so I, I can't speak in name of the Ukrainians, but there is a Hungarian ethnic minority who is living in Ukraine and they are suffering very much from the, from the bad consequences of the, of the war and they want peace. So I know that the Hungarian minority who is living in Ukraine, they want peace and they want to end the war and they want leadership which is working together with the United States to end the war as soon as possible. And I think this would be the, this would be the only possible outcome for Europe as well. Just that was there was a news about the negotiations in Saudi Arabia immediately. Gas prices went down, energy prices went down, stock market went up. So just, it had an immediate positive effect on the everyday life of the European people. Imagine what would happen if you are able to settle the conflict as it was mentioned by the Vice President as well, and find a long term agreement between NATO, between the United States of America, between the Western world and Russia. It would be very good for all of us. So we should work it on. I know it will be hard, it's not easy. There is many emotional aspects of it but adults should take control and, and take the lead. Otherwise we are going to keep, keep, keep going down.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll send our regard. Look, we think Viktor Orban, we were with him in Texas. He spoke, he speaks at CPACs all the time now. CPAC has had a very successful run in Hungary. They're going to do another one in late May. I understand War Room will be there representing, will probably do the show live from there. Where do people, if they're interested to find more information about Hungary, Viktor Orban, in particular you, all your writings. Social media. Where do they go?

[Balaz Orban]

Social media X is a good platform to do so.

[Steve Bannon]

And, and what's the, what's your handle?

[Balaz Orban]

You have a standing invitation in, in Hungary. You should have live broadcasting. Yes, he is a very popular man in Hungary. Hungarians love him.

[Steve Bannon]

It's easy. You guys are the Hungarians on the right side of every issue. And Victoria Orban's a hero because for many years they tried to ostracize him. And now you know that American taxpayer dollars, unbeknownst to American citizens went to try to destroy what you guys are doing in Hungary. And now Viktor Orban's looked on the world stage as a hero, as somebody that said everything was going to happen about the Ukraine war. And he's obviously President Trump thinks very highly of him. They're very close. Probably has the best relationship of anybody on the continent. So what's the handle on social media where they go not just X but.

[Balaz Orban]

Yeah, but I think X is important. Follow the prime minister, Viktor Orban and we have some very good politicians, the foreign minister and some others follow them. And there are some free speech based small outlets in Brussels as well. So if you want to. Want to hear real European news, European conservative, which is partner of American conservative here. So you can find some.

[Steve Bannon]

And what is your handle on social media? Do you have one?

[Balaz Orban]

I'm. Yeah, I'm sure about you can Balaj Orba.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, we'll get it up in the Chiron blush. Thank you so much.

[Balaz Orban]

Thank you very much. I appreciate.

[Brian Glenn]

These are heroes.

[Balaz Orban]

God bless you. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Remember, it was very, it was very. It was very easy to criticize for the Europeans to criticize Hungary, but they stood. They stood tall in the breach. And this is why right now, where President Trump tries to bring this war to a conclusion with his geostrategic realignment, you have all the same demons and devils. The whole source back Brussels crowd, you know, bang at the heels, braying at the heels of President Trump. Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. We're back here live. Oh, my gosh, they're starting to gather. A gathering of eagles here. Unbelievable. James Zirko is going to be in the mosh pit when we get back or take a short commercial break. We're going to be back. CPAC 2025, go to Birch Gold. Take your phone out. Bannon 989-898. Get the free brochure. Investing in gold in the era of President Trump, the ultimate guy. We're going to take a short break. Burch Gold's our sponsor today. Be back in a moment. American made.

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