Episode 4285: Live From CPAC Days Of Retribution

Summary

Summary of Podcast Episode 4285: "Live From CPAC Days Of Retribution"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Bannon's War Room
• Host/Author: WarRoom.org
• Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-the-minute information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon brings medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and those on the front lines for a comprehensive look at the latest news from all and provide their insider insights.
• Episode: Episode 4285: Live From CPAC Days Of Retribution
• Release Date: February 20, 2025

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1. Confirmation of Cash Patel as FBI Director

The episode kicks off with an in-depth discussion surrounding the Senate's confirmation of Cash Patel as the new Director of the FBI. Political Analyst Frank highlights the partisan divide, noting strong Republican support and deep Democratic opposition.

• Frank ([00:28]): "If the idea is that you want to make the FBI apolitical, it's hard to pick a more political person to take the job." He emphasizes Patel's long-standing alignment with Donald Trump, raising concerns about the potential politicization of the FBI under his leadership.

• The confirmation vote resulted in a narrow split of 51-49, reflecting intense partisan stakes. The hosts discuss the implications of Patel's confirmation, suggesting it as a continuation of President Trump's agenda within high-level governmental positions.

2. Implications for the FBI and Law Enforcement

Expert Commentator delves into the potential restructuring and focus shifts within the FBI under Patel's direction. There is apprehension about the agency moving away from comprehensive intelligence operations to a more crime-focused approach.

• Expert Commentator ([02:14]): "If he's going to keep his job and remain loyal to Trump, he's going to have to fall into line and continue to close down cases that Trump doesn't like and open cases that Trump wants opened."

Concerns are raised about the dismantling of critical task forces, such as the foreign influence task force, which previously worked to prevent foreign adversaries from interfering in U.S. elections.

3. Lawfare and Separation of Powers

John Eastman provides a critical analysis of the ongoing legal battles, emphasizing the misuse of judicial power to interfere with executive functions. He advocates for leveraging Supreme Court Rule 11 to expedite the review of detrimental nationwide injunctions.

• John Eastman ([17:27]): "The judiciary has to hold up the law, it doesn't have the authority to direct the president how to manage his department."

Eastman stresses the importance of maintaining clear boundaries between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches, warning against the judiciary overstepping its constitutional roles.

4. Media Landscape and the Rise of Independent Media

The conversation shifts to the evolving media landscape, with hosts discussing the decline of traditional legacy media and the rise of independent platforms like Real America's Voice.

• Co-host ([33:34]): "The legacy media has been dying slow death every year...We just let it rip organically."

This segment underscores a strategic shift towards unfiltered, direct communication channels that align more closely with their audience’s values, bypassing traditional media gatekeepers.

5. CPAC Proceedings and Key Speakers

Live from CPAC, the hosts provide updates on the event's happenings, including the lineup featuring prominent figures like Elon Musk and Stephen K. Bannon. They highlight the significance of these appearances in advancing the populist nationalist movement.

• Ben Berkwam ([06:43]): "Cash Patel was just confirmed as your ninth director of the Federal Bureau."

Discussions also touch upon the broader implications of CPAC’s agenda in shaping national policies and public opinion.

6. Stephen K. Bannon’s Speeches at CPAC

A significant portion of the episode features Stephen K. Bannon delivering impassioned speeches on the main stage at CPAC. Bannon addresses the recent FBI Director confirmation, criticizes mainstream media, and rallies the audience around the populist nationalist cause.

• Stephen K. Bannon ([46:01]): "Cash Patel's director of the FBI, confirmed by the United States Senate, as was Bobby Kennedy Jr. Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hexseth. Didn't they tell you it couldn't be done?"

Bannon underscores the achievements of the movement, including the alignment of key political figures with President Trump's agenda, and calls for continued action to protect American sovereignty and counteract globalist influences.

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Key Takeaways:

• Partisan Divide: The confirmation of Cash Patel as FBI Director illustrates the deepening partisan split, with significant concerns about the potential politicization of federal law enforcement.

• Future of the FBI: Under Patel’s leadership, the FBI is expected to undergo substantial reforms, potentially shifting focus toward violent crime and away from comprehensive intelligence operations.

• Judicial Overreach: Legal experts like John Eastman warn against the judiciary overstepping constitutional boundaries, advocating for mechanisms to ensure executive functions remain unimpeded.

• Media Evolution: There is a marked decline in traditional media influence, with a burgeoning emphasis on independent, unfiltered platforms that better serve the populist nationalist base.

• CPAC’s Role: CPAC serves as a pivotal platform for advancing the movement’s agenda, featuring influential speakers and fostering discussions that align with their ideological goals.

• Bannon’s Leadership: Stephen K. Bannon remains a central figure in galvanizing support, critiquing mainstream institutions, and promoting the movement’s objectives at high-profile events like CPAC.

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Notable Quotes:

• Frank ([00:28]): "If the idea is that you want to make the FBI apolitical, it's hard to pick a more political person to take the job."

• John Eastman ([17:27]): "The judiciary has to hold up the law, it doesn't have the authority to direct the president how to manage his department."

• Stephen K. Bannon ([46:01]): "Cash Patel's director of the FBI, confirmed by the United States Senate, as was Bobby Kennedy Jr. Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hexseth. Didn't they tell you it couldn't be done?"

• Co-host ([33:34]): "The legacy media has been dying slow death every year...We just let it rip organically."

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This episode of Bannon's War Room offers a comprehensive examination of the political shifts surrounding Cash Patel's confirmation, the anticipated transformation within the FBI, challenges to judicial authority, and the strategic evolution of media platforms within the populist nationalist movement. Through live discussions and influential speeches, the podcast underscores the ongoing efforts to reshape American political and social landscapes in alignment with their ideological objectives.

Transcript

[Political Analyst]

Cash Patel is right on the cusp of becoming the next director of the FBI with the Senate holding its confirmation vote for that controversial nominee. In fact, right now, Republicans have unsurprisingly rallied around Patel's emphasis on fighting crime with the Senate Judiciary Chair, rather calling him the right man at the right time. But Democrats have warned he is unfit for the position, raising concerns that he's going to use the agency to target the president's political enemies.

[Frank]

Well, I wouldn't say it's unusual, but she makes a, I think a very astute. If the idea is that you want to make the FBI apolitical, it's hard to pick a more political person to take the job. Someone who has, as you noted, been a die hard champion of Donald Trump for a long time. And even going back before he was sort of aligned on the outside with Donald Trump. Look, it's not surprising that Republican senators are not persuaded by this, though. And I think it's for an important reason. The things that Cash Patel has said and I think truly believes that there is a deep state that was out to get Donald Trump and January 6th was all about, you know, that was a political, you know, the election was stolen from him and this was all politics. Those are all standard fare things that Republican senators are forced to say. Now when they go back to their states and they're talking to their constituents now, they'll say with a bit of a wink and a nod and yeah, yeah, the deep state. Cash Patel truly believes it. But the point is you can't be against Cash Patel for believing in a deep state if you also have been talking about the fact that there's a deep state in the federal government. So none of the things that he has said publicly that I think get a lot of people upset are all that different than what most Republican senators basically say anytime they're back home in their states.

[Political Analyst]

And you mentioned the deep state. And I have a quote, this is something that he said on a podcast. He said on day one would shut down the FBI Hoover Building and reopen it the next day as a museum of the deep state. So given all of this, the tenor of everything, Frank, now that it is edging toward reality, what could a Cash Patel led FBI look like?

[Expert Commentator]

Yeah, that's the big question. How bad is it going to get? Because it's, it's clear to everyone that there will be major changes and reforms at the FBI. The only question is, how bad is it going to get? Everybody's all about reforming. I'm about reforming, you know, huge bureaucracies and pivoting and changing and reassessing. That's characterized my 25 years at the FBI. The biggest strategic change, of course, was after the terror attacks of 9 11, when the FBI fully dived into the intelligence community and became an agency that's beyond investigation, but rather predicting bad things before they happen. And this concerns me because, look, there's every indication so far based on what Pam Bondi has done, acting DAG Emile Beauvais has done, demanding the list of agents who worked January 6, dropping corruption cases like Eric Adams that you know now has gone to court because Trump wants them dropped. And of course, we understand Patel will work for Bondi and Beauvais. And so if he's going to keep his job and remain loyal to Trump, he's going to have to fall into line and continue to close down cases that Trump doesn't like and open cases that Trump wants opened. We've already seen Bondi destroy, dismantle the foreign influence task force at the FBI that keeps foreign adversaries out of our elections. That's gone. So the question is, what is the FBI not going to work anymore? It's not about. I know he wants to work violent crime. He's already said FBI agents are cops. They should be working rapes and murders, by the way, those are not federal. Those aren't federal violations. The question is what? They're not going to work. And that's what bothers me.

[Political Analyst]

And I just want to have our director, if we can put up that count the tally right there as we're trying to get to the very end. We're very close, everybody. Okay to the vote. We're going to stay though, watching it. He has been confirmed. This has just happened, everyone. It is not a surprise. We figured this would happen. It would have taken a number of Republicans to flip away from the party and not vote on a partisan level as we had expected them to do. We did get that from Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. But it would seem every other Republican has voted for Cash Patel and every Democrat has voted against him with the final tally there, 51 to 49. So there you have it. It is a done deal and there will be consequences of this as far as the Democrats are concerned. And Republicans will be happy that they are continuing President Trump's agenda in confirmation of his appointees both to cabinet and high level positions in the.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got A free shot on all these networks, lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[Co-host]

It's going to happen.

[John Eastman]

And where do people like that go.

[Co-host]

To share the big lie?

[Ben Berkwam]

MAGA media.

[Co-host]

I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Ben Berkwam]

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Host]

All right, we're live in the war room at cpac. Another great day. Yesterday was stellar. Today's even better. We got breaking news. We got Ben Berkwam in the House. Ben, Mike Davis, great post. Sobek, why don't you lead off with a headline of the day?

[Ben Berkwam]

The headline of the day is this is the sound that you heard was every liberal elite's head exploding right here up the river. And the other spike that we hear, is that all? You go to Google. Right now on in Washington D.C. the search for defense lawyer just spikes up to 100% because Cash Patel was just confirmed as your ninth director of the Federal Bureau. Say it again.

[Host]

Say it again.

[Mike Davis]

Amen. Can we get an amen out there?

[Host]

Right.

[Ben Berkwam]

Has been appointed.

[Host]

What's the name of his book?

[Ben Berkwam]

Government, Government Gangsters. Everybody ought to read Playbook.

[Host]

That's a playbook.

[Ben Berkwam]

So I was joking before. I said, look at the career trajectory. Right. So he goes from, he's a, he's a defense lawyer, he then becomes a federal defense lawyer, he becomes a U.S. attorney, and then, then he gets hired by HIP C. So he's on the HIP C committee under Nunez. He uncovers Russiagate, then he goes to National Security Council, Chief of Staff to the Department of Defense, then a brief stint as a war room contributor and then he leveraged the war room to bounce up, bounce back, or I don't know if it's an upgrade or a downgrade from the war room to the FBI director. Perfectly logically in America. Perfectly logical only in America.

[Host]

You got it.

[Frank]

Way to go.

[Host]

Good. Set up. Mike Davis. What's that mean, FBI. What's at stake here?

[Expert Commentator]

Well, I'll tell you this. When President Trump nominated Cash Patel, the very smart people in Washington said his nomination was dead on arrival. Yeah, and then the war room posse went to the Article 3 projects action page and lit up the Senate. And we gave the Senate an attitude adjustments and he just Got confirmed today. And he's going to go in there and bring bold, serious reforms to the FBI after it was politicized and weaponized to go after Trump. His top aides like Bannon, who went to the clink. Peter Navarro, who went to the clink. Parents, Christians. There is a new sheriff in town today and his name is Cash Patel.

[Host]

Yeah, Mike. Our Article 3 project. Mike Davis, go look him up. Give us non lawyers a sense for the scale and scope of his duties, responsibilities as head of the FBI. What all does that entail?

[Expert Commentator]

It's a major job. He's in charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. So he is going to take the lead on everything from terrorism to violent street crimes to migrant crimes. And what we need to do is refocus the FBI from its political focus on those mean grandmas who trespassed on January six. I took selfies. And we're going to focus the FBI on real crimes in real America that affect real Americans, like vicious migrant gangs. Santiago migrant games who are terrorizing Americans. We're going to. We're going to focus on gun crimes. We're going to focus on making America safe again instead of going after Trump supporters on January 6th.

[Mike Davis]

Amen.

[Host]

Way to go, Mike Segways. Perfect. To the Border with Ben Berkwamp. Ben, what are the implications of this FBI slot, USAID slots.

[Mike Davis]

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

[Host]

You and your world.

[Mike Davis]

First off, what a difference a year makes from last time we're in CPAC to today, standing here today. Incredible. But you look at that. I just want to touch on real quick what Mike was talking about. We just had Joe Biggs on with Jack Bosobic on his show. And you talk about what they did, what the FBI did in the last four years. They took FBI agents off, off of active terror investigations, jihadist terror investigations, to investigate American citizens, grandmas and grandpas, guys that were simply there walking around. My friend Coy Griffin, who was there praying at the Capitol. They spent our tax dollars, our time going after J6ers. And on day one, President Trump releases those guys. And now we have an FBI director. Shout out to all the guys here. I know we got a lot of J6 years here. Shout out to these guys. Now we have an FBI director who's actually going to put the rule of law first again. Not, not put himself first, not put President Trump first, put the rule of law first, which is how it should be. We're not. We're not going after our political enemies. We're going after the traitors. To this country that committed crimes against this nation. And we're going to hold them accountable. It's very simple. And on the border, look, what we've got started is the beginning what Tom Homan so we've covered this for four years. The left weaponized our asylum process to invite an invasion, the Trojan horse invasion, into our country. They spent four years, brought 15 million illegals in. We covered that from start to finish. It's part of the reason why President Trump won, part of many reasons why President Trump won. Now we have the opportunity to turn it around. Tom Holman's doing that. We're embedding with ice, we're embedding with Border Patrol. ICE is going after them. But when you look at the task that's in front of them, the amount of money it's going to cost, the manpower it's going to take, it is enormous. And so this is the beginning of it. But to me, the bigger side of that, what has to happen, two things we have to defund. We've talked about this. Defund the NGOs, defund all these organizations, the Global Compact of Migration, get out of the unhcr, all of these things. And we have to use now the Justice Department under Cash Patel to go after the NGOs and all of these organizations that were working with the cartels to divide and undermine our country from within. That has to happen. And I believe we're actually going to start seeing some of that.

[Host]

Just give us a brief overview of how the FBI is supposed to work with Department of Homeland Security and the other major institutions that should have been doing their work on the border. What's their role?

[Mike Davis]

It's directly what we've seen the last three weeks, four weeks now. God bless it, it's one month today. They're working directly with them. FBI has intel on counterterrorist information. They have intel on Trainer Aragua. You mentioned on Ms. 13, on all of these now labeled terrorist organizations. They have all this information. Now they're going to share that information with Department of Homeland Security, with ice, with Border Patrol, with all these organizations so these organizations can work together. The dea, we are seeing that happen in real time. All of these organizations that were weaponized against the American people are now weaponized against the bad guys in our country. It's what this country was supposed to do. It's how we're supposed to operate.

[Host]

Give us a little more on that. All doj, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, dni, all the security apparatus, all hitting on all cylinders right now. The Rule of law is going to be in play. What's it going to look like in a year from now?

[Expert Commentator]

What's what it's going to look like? As President Trump is refocusing our intel agencies, federal law enforcement on our southern border to protect our border from this invasion, this intentional invasion by Biden and his DHS and, and these outside NGOs. They intentionally led this mass invasion of 15 million unvetted and unvettable people from these dangerous places, these third world hellholes. And we are in a very dangerous place as a country because of this. Ben's been covering this for four years, and we are. President Trump is going to fix this and he's going to focus federal law enforcement on real crimes instead of political enemies.

[Ben Berkwam]

You know. You know, David. Well, they were saying, somebody's coming at me. They're complaining and say, well, how could President Trump have say that Ukraine could hold elections when they're being invaded? I said, well, we just did last year, right?

[Mike Davis]

That's right.

[Ben Berkwam]

We. How about United States 2024 with our Leviathan, basically? You can't say that. No. Watch the war room. Watch Ben Berkwe. He'll take.

[Host]

Jack's been watching X for us. We also had earlier break in the news. Steve Bannon standing up in front of a huge video this morning of Senator Mitch McConnell. What are you seeing on X? What's the reaction to the Kentucky Senate?

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, it's. What's interesting with Mitch. So he drops out, but then, you know, announces. I think it was expected. But also he voted for cash.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Ben Berkwam]

So I think it's. I think it's a, it's an interesting day. It's an interesting day for Mitch McConnell.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Host]

And then the at CPAC give us an overview. What's the lineup? I think Elon.

[Ben Berkwam]

Lineup is that Elon is going to speak right before Steve.

[Mike Davis]

Is he going to hand Steve the mic?

[Ben Berkwam]

That's what I want to know. Maybe a little.

[Host]

All right, folks, we're going to break. Stay tuned to the war room. You see, we got a great. The killers are in the House. Stay tuned.

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[Ben Berkwam]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Host]

All right, back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon at cpac. It's an honor to have John Eastman in the house. He's been through a living hell over the past few years. I always love to hear him speak. You can just see his brain at work. He's doing a panel. He did a panel. He's got another panel coming up on Lawfare. And he's the perfect guy to have in the House. With the news breaking on Cash Patel today, John, why don't you frame it as you wish? Thanks for being with us.

[John Eastman]

Thank you very much. Well, the first thing I got to say, quote Churchill, when you're going through hell, don't stop.

[Steve Bannon]

Keep going.

[John Eastman]

So that's what we've been doing. Yeah, we're doing a panel on Lawfare tomorrow. But it just got much more exciting with Cashpell's confirmation earlier today because he's already indicated that he is going to look into this, what I believe is a nationwide conspiracy to deprive people of the constitutional right to speech, to petition our government for redress of grievances. And you know, the people that are engaged in that conspiracy, these NGOs, these state prosecutors, and all of the money flowing through USAID and everything else that's going into this effort to shut us down. That's a conspiracy and that's a federal felony. And I hope Cash will investigate that fully and if warranted, put a bow on it and hand it over to Pam Bondi.

[Host]

Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to be able to show some elements of conspiracy. But what I'm worried about is just the logic you see unfolding, whether it's economic issues, the foreign policy. You find a liberal judge and they say, you got a jury of your peers and we gave you proper justice. And they can hold up all policy from the executive branch using the courts. What, what's the way forward on that?

[John Eastman]

Well, I think the courts are going to learn very quickly here that there are three articles dividing powers in the Constitution. Article one is the legislative branch, Article two is the executive, and Article three is the judiciary. And while the judiciary has to hold up the law, it doesn't have the authority to direct the president how to manage his department any more than he can tell the judges who to hire for their clerks or whatever in the running of their department. And these nationwide injunctions, particularly the most egregious one, telling the incoming Secretary of the treasury appointed by the President, nominated by him and confirmed by the Senate, that he couldn't look at what his own department was doing because that would interfere with the career bureaucrats that have been running roughshod over taxpayers for decades. That was absurd. And they quickly backed away from that because I think that was on the fast track to not only being overruled, but getting rid of these nationwide injunctions by the Supreme Court.

[Host]

Right. That, that one seemed, you know, highly grotesquely offensive. So they backtrack. Just the politics was so bad. But these other stays, I mean, they have the ability to at least delay for a few months until we put things. I forget what you lawyers call it, but whatever you have to put into the Supreme Court to clear the decks. And so, but I, I'm fascinated because, like, just take usaid, right? So that, that's under the State Department now. That's under Rubio. Rubio is a Secretary of State who serves at the pleasure of the President. And the courts are getting in the middle of that line. And so what, what can the President do? Can he ignore a stay if he's the chief magistrate of the country? Can he ignore a stay if it's grotesquely out of bounds and challenge it to the Supreme Court himself? What, what, what options does he have?

[John Eastman]

He, he should not be able to do that because otherwise you undermine the legitimate role of the judiciary. But, but these things are getting so egregious. I know people are talking about that. I hope it doesn't come to that. But, but I'm working on an article right now called the Rule 11 option. Supreme Court Rule 11 lets the Department of Justice, ask the Supreme Court to review these cases even before the Court of Appeals have ruled. And we want to get back on the fast track because what's going on here, they know ultimately they're going to lose most of these cases because the President clearly has authority. His legal team that has been working overtime for the last four years to get ready for this have crossed the T's and dotted the eyes. They've got the statutory authority, they've got the Constitution authority. So I think they're eventually going to lose. And their goal here is to try and run the clock on President Trump's agenda, the agenda that we, the American people, voted to implement. And he's doing it, and they're trying to stop him and delay it as long as they can. And I can't imagine a more perfect case for Rule 11 asking the Supreme Court put a stop to this now.

[Host]

We can't tolerate that, Jack. So big, you're monitoring this stuff in real time. Any questions for John Eastman?

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, John, you know, you were on my program earlier today and we were talking about this very, this very issue. But just take us back to what the, what the concept of that is, because this is separation of powers. The founders understood that each branch should, of course, you have the check on the power of the other branches, but not for internal matters of that branch.

[John Eastman]

That's right. And that's what's going on. These, these independent, unelected, life appointed judges are trying to micromanage how the President runs his own department. And the claims that what he is doing illegally are specious. All right? And so what they're trying to do is use these pretexts to basically act as if they were the ones that the American people elected to run the department, the executive branch of, of government. And by the way, you know, the, the role of the judges is limited. It's not all the judicial power. It's only certain things that are spelled out in the Constitution. Just like the legislative power is limited, it's only the powers herein enumerated that are vested in the legislature. But the president is the sole executive and he holds all the executive power. It says the executive power is vested in the president. President. And what these judges are doing in many instances is trying to become the executives themselves. Unlike Kamala Harris, who at least got some votes in the general election, it's more like her running for the primary. They didn't ever get a single vote and they have no authority to run the executive department, the executive branch of government.

[Ben Berkwam]

John had a good A good example earlier. It's like, it's like a judge couldn't come in and start dictating military policy to the Secretary of Defense and block money if you're in the middle of a war. Of course not.

[Frank]

Not.

[Ben Berkwam]

We, we understand that that would be completely inappropriate. And yet when it comes to these other cases, and of course the media is not on our side, but it's obviously a gross overstepping of their bounds.

[John Eastman]

Yep. Well, and it's more fundamentally, it's. It's based on 100 year misconception of government. Way back under Woodrow Wilson and then on steroids under Franklin Roosevelt. They brought in experts to run our lives rather than we, the people running them. And they. And over a century, they've gotten the view that we all work for them rather than the other way around. And that's how you get a judge decision saying the Secretary of Treasury put in office by the people person we just elected can't look at what his own employees are doing because they're the permanent bureaucracy and they're really running the show. It's a complete upside down view of our government.

[Ben Berkwam]

And that's where. And I don't usually pull this card out very much, but as a Claremont fellow, you did all your good learning where I got a little. A little bit of education, not a lot, but a little bit of education. They taught us that this was the problem where sovereignty essentially leaked out of the governmental system, spread into the expert class, and then joined at the hip with what, academia. So this is where you get the academic split whereby you have these, like, Ivy League professors with security clearances going to the CIA and dictating national security policy that are completely unelected. And the President doesn't even know what's going on.

[John Eastman]

Well, except he does now after the first.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yes.

[John Eastman]

And he revoked a lot of those security clearances. Look, you know, back in the first Trump 45, there were a couple of articles, I think, in the New York Times, the President is violating the law because he's not listening to the intelligence community. Last I checked, they worked for him rather than your way around. And then the big one was, and he wanted to put in his own guy as acting Attorney General as this. This was somehow nefariously wrong. I'm sorry. He's the boss. He ought to be able to put in who he wants. And the Constitution gives him that authority. And you know what the Constitution also says he can ask those department heads for opinions on how they ought to operate. It's right there in the Constitution.

[Host]

Yeah. A plus. Ben Berkwam, use of lawfare on your issue. What do you got for John?

[Mike Davis]

Yeah, so two things. One, I was just up with Christina Bobb and you think, you know, look what they're doing to her, look what they did to you or doing to you all of that. How do we first off, what's going to happen with all those cases? And then how do we hold these judges accountable? Are we impeaching them? What do we do to make sure this doesn't happen in the future?

[John Eastman]

So let me talk about Arizona where Christina is my co defendant in the Arizona criminal matter down there. That what the so called fake electors case. Alternate electors. Anyway, we won a big victory last week where the judge held that we had met our initial burden under the state's anti slap statute to get the case dismissed. We showed that the prosecution infringed our First Amendment rights and we showed that it was substantially motivated by political bias and an effort to silence us on our rights. Now they have to prove that, oh no, it had nothing to do with politics or the exercise of our First Amendment rights. So that was a huge win. They're, they're fighting tooth and nail not even to let that stand. They're trying to appeal that. But that was a big win. A big win for free speech, a big win for getting rid of this lawfare. You know, what do we do with these judges? I think the Supreme Court is finally going to put an end to these nationwide injunctions. You know, I also am a firm believer, been arguing for decades that we've let judges run amok because we weakened the impeachment power. We somehow got to the notion that you can only be impeached for criminal conduct off the bench, not for egregious violations of your office on the bench.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah.

[John Eastman]

And it's a no brainer and I think we need to bring. The founders would have thought, you know, a little crime off the bench is much less significant than violating your duties on the bench. That's, that's where the public interest is, is abused. And I don't think in our politics right now, even if you could get an impeachment through the House, you would Never get the 2/3 vote in the Senate. But let's still put them through the ringer. Let's make them go through the impeachment process. They've put me through the ringer for the last four years and I'd like, and I'd like to get even with them a little bit.

[Mike Davis]

Amen.

[John Eastman]

Because I'm A vengeful man, but because I believe in justice.

[Host]

Amen. That's right. John Eastman in the house. Just to lay out the agenda here, I think we're waiting on the main stage for Elon Musk. They're running it looks way behind. And then after Elon Musk, we've got the great Stephen K. Bannon on the main stage at cpac. And so all of that coming, we could be breaking at any time to go to the main stage. But in the meantime, we got the killer team here with John Eastman. And we'll be with you in the morning again for the regular show out of cpac. Folks, come find us in the morning. We'll give you more details on that. Cameron. But we're going to break and so stay tuned for a short break and then back with Elon Musk will be live off the main stage. We might get into a little anti.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Ben Berkwam]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Host]

All right, back in the war room at CPAC standing in for the great Stephen K. Band. And I think he's getting ready to go on the main stage. We got Berquam, bowling Brat and Bokobic. Sorry about that. I just wanted all bees that's why I attempted a lot of bees.

[Ben Berkwam]

It's a lot of bees.

[Host]

Anyway, we got great news. We got Eric bowling in the house. He joined RAV today has his own new show.

[Co-host]

I found out in a press release. I was reading the paper, I saw a press release. We're gonna be the 4 o'clock show and rap. I said oh, okay, got it. That's, that's how it works. But yeah, we're gonna 4:00 and we're gonna lead into the 5:00 abandoned war room.

[John Eastman]

Wow.

[Co-host]

It's gonna be great. Let me talk again. Steve and I have known each other forever. We just, we were part of the original crew. I would love Steve to be here right now because I remember having cocktails with Steve Bannon, Andrew Breitbart and Ann Coulter at Del Frisco's across the street from Fox many times. That is that as a young guy getting into the business I couldn't have a better education than those folks right there. And those are some of the the best people in, you know, America first in anti globalist movement that is now all of a sudden sweeping the country.

[Host]

Right. What's the theme of the show? What are you going to highlight?

[Co-host]

I don't know yet. I've been doing a show, it's been a podcast which will continue with Red Seed Ventures which is the group that's producing Megyn Kelly and Tucker and you know, Reilly and Pierce Morgan. So it's the same group. It's probably going to be very much the same show. Yeah, we're gonna have to bleep some words out once in a while but it's a 4 o'clock show. The market closes at 4 if a lot going on. We have Elon Musk, we have Trump, we have businessmen. Talk about that a little bit too. So it's free flowing Dave. I'm not really sure exactly what it's going to be but I know it will be America first. It will be full throated MAGA editorial straight up. That's where we're going.

[Host]

Yeah. That's why you and Pesobic give us a little CliffsNotes version. What's your. You've been doing this a Bunch of years 20 changing media environment where the power centers are. Give us a little CliffsNotes view.

[Co-host]

So the legacy media has been dying slow death every year the, you know the total Legacy Media, the ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, it's the pie shrinks by 8% and a lot of is emigrating to the people who are doing what we're doing here? Yeah, we're creating organic content, honest content. If you watch now, I come from Fox. I love them. It's fine. Doocy, kill me. Ainsley in the morning, dear friends of mine. But every word that comes out of their mouth is measured. They're thinking about how am I not going to get in trouble? How, how am I going to, you know, not step into a lawsuit or get myself, you know, hauled up to the second floor, which is where the, the off executive suites are, and get in trouble with this content? We just, we just let it rip. And we let it rip organically. But just one final thought. Check. The legacy media got smoked in the election. No one was honest enough in the legacy media to say this is a Trump slam dunk.

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, Eric, there's another name I'd throw on that, and that's the name of another former Fox guy, Pete Heg says. Yeah, so I've noticed that. And the people, you know, people know Pete from, from on air, obviously, and they see his Twitter. But it seems like if you listen to that speech he gave at Naito, if you listen to that, I said, wait a minute, that's not the Fox News line on Naito. That's not exactly what you would hear normally from there. So it's, it's kind of like, wait a minute, this is the real Pete Hegseth coming out now. This isn't that, you know, and I'm not saying anything against it. But it's what you're saying, right? It's.

[Co-host]

Everything is.

[Ben Berkwam]

There's no measurement. There's no worrying about being called upstairs. It's. I'm going to tell you the God's honest truth because he's been given an opportunity.

[Co-host]

You know, who's the last person to do that at? I'll call it legacy media, but certainly Fox is. Tucker.

[Ben Berkwam]

Tucker.

[Co-host]

Tucker said exactly what he felt, what he knew, and they removed them for it.

[Mike Davis]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

I mean, there's no other reason to have left the most successful cable host probably in the history of cable news and tell them, you know, find another job. It's, it's insanity. Other than they couldn't handle advertisers who were concerned with what was coming out of Tucker's mouth, which obviously the people loved and kind of lines up with what's going on right now in Maga.

[Host]

Ben, the war room, the big, I think people are going to like this. Connect the dots with the media. Ban is great at doing it. Endless wars, the economy and then the border invasion. That's your turf. What have any of the mainstream media gotten any of those three. Those were also the big three issues. Polling for the country for the election at no cover.

[Mike Davis]

About, about three weeks before the election, mainstream media started saying, oh, we got a problem on the border. You know, I mean, it was, it was that bad. But I got to say what you're talking about, Eric, and all of this, you know, I'm looking over at Patriot Mobile, I got their new hat on. I'm wearing over here. This is a combination shout out to Glen story.

[Ben Berkwam]

We love Patriot Mobile, don't we folks?

[Mike Davis]

We love those guys. But this is talk about Eric, about the cancel culture, how that is dying, how legacy, it tore down legacy media. It tore down the, the, the people, you know, the influencers. And now you see that the power is gone. And so when it came to the border, I got, I got permanently banned on YouTube for using the term illegal alien. Now you see Elon take over Twitter, turned it into X. You see Mark Zuckerberg, who would have thought that turning over. And now you see all of these companies stepping up and saying, you know what, we're going to support the companies, the media that supports the values that we believe in. And then we're going to in turn support those companies. And guess what? All of these people are then going to in turn support those companies and these companies.

[Co-host]

I tell you, Piers Morgan's uncensored couple of nights ago. And Lindy Lee, if you know who Lindy Lee is, she's a young lady who was all the way through the Biden presidency, the reelection campaign. She was one of the major advisers and one of the major fundraisers as well. And then she jumped over to Kamala Harris and she was full throated Kamala Harris for the entirety of the campaign. Trump wins. Lindy Lee says, you know, I've really been conservative a long time. I kind of like what's going on here. Now I'm, I'm, I'm pro Trump and I was on with her on Pierce and the first thing I said out of my mouth was, I don't trust you. You're a Trojan horse. You're going to flip back the other way. And we got to be careful on the right. We have to be careful who we're embracing because these are long term Trump derangement syndrome haters who now see Mark Zuckerberg now see the path to Trump.

[Ben Berkwam]

She lied on Pierce too, that Lindy and Piers actually called her out because he called it because she said, oh, I secretly didn't vote for any Kamala or she said anyone, right? But then it was publicly saying it that she still supported, was hosting pictures and everything. And then people went, dug through her Twitter account, said, wait a minute, you have a post that says right here, I voted early for Kamala Harris. She did like the mail in voting.

[Co-host]

Why you don't trust these folks.

[Ben Berkwam]

And, but what I would also say, though, and I'll just throw this out, and that's what I love about the War Room and Real America's Voice as well, is you don't hear any of those games played around here. We don't play that whole, oh, I'm a convert. No, no, if you're going to platform somebody, let's platform somebody like an Eric Balling, someone who's been there from the start, someone who's got a tried and true record, someone who we understand is on our side that is fighting in the same direction as us. We're not going to play this game of entry ism. And then, because what these people do, and I see, I see a lot of this going on right now with a lot of the 2017 or types that come in, like, well, maybe I'll be a Trump supporter now. And they come in and they act like they have some moral judgment authority, like a moral authority on the rest was, well, you can't talk to that person. You can't have that. Who are you? Who are you to be able to.

[Co-host]

Come and say that to us when their side comes over to the other side? Either way, frankly, if it's, even if it's a Republican who decides, you know, I'm now a liberal, then the liberal networks will pick that person up because they love to see the food fight. They love to see a former Democrat.

[Mike Davis]

They love a good turn.

[Co-host]

So it's clickable. And I said to her, yeah, you're just doing this because Fox is booking you like crazy. I don't want to book you. I think you're full of crap. You know, that's.

[Ben Berkwam]

No, this is actually, Eric, what you're saying, this is very, very important. And this is why independent media, like Real America's voice, is dominant and is ascendant. Why? So why? People are. Because they don't want the food fight. They don't want the games anymore. They don't want the little cafeteria nonsense. Look, that's, that's. We know what Steve says about Fox. I'm not going to say it right now, but. But you want the 301. This is 301. This is like, you know, going back to School, right? Liberty, this is graduate level studies around here. We don't play those games. Brass tacks, numbers. That's what the war room is about. And look, if someone, I'm not saying, by the way, that it doesn't happen, if someone legitimately has a conversion and goes, and I'll say this as a Catholic bridal love, this does their penance. Does their penance, right? See this, this is why we have that in Catholicism, right? You do your penance and you show everyone that you're not just Mark Zuckerberg. You know, I'm going to, you know, throw a million. A million bucks. That guy sneezes and it's five, right? This. A million bucks to Trump and all of a sudden he's feeding. No way, dude. No way.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Hey, you guys keep going. What, what do you. Each of you, in a minute. What do you see in terms of platforms coming around the corner in the next few years? Anything? I mean, you're about as savvy on the social media platforms out there.

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, I think what you, what we're already seeing, I'll say it this way because you're already seeing it. What the Trump administration in the White House is doing. And they, they got, when they, when they brought me over on the trip to Ukraine, right? To the, they're like, we're bringing Paso back over to Kiev and he's going to be in with the negotiations and the peace deal, the economic, the mineral deal with Besant. And then Hegseth invites me. How could you invite this guy? He's a social media. He's just a. No, no, no, no, no. What they're doing is they're embracing radical transparency. So what you're, what's happening with media is. And that's through real America's voice and through social media, podcasts, etcetera, they're pulling back the curtain. There's no backroom deals anymore. Because with social media, with the reality, you can put someone in the actual room. And what the Trump administration is doing is totally disintermediating all the gatekeepers that Eric is talking about. Because with the power of a cell phone, right, you can put someone right in the room. So Trump, by doing that, that's why all the Obama Bros on the podcast network, that's why they're all freaking out, because they're like, wait, why didn't we do this? Then they realized they should have done it.

[Host]

Outstanding.

[Co-host]

Eric, just continue what Jack just said. Trump revolutionized campaigning, number one. He also sped up the process. Remember I said that The. The pie shrinks for Legacy Media by 8% a year. I think he pushed that even further by going on Joe spending three hours with Joe Rogan.

[Ben Berkwam]

Right.

[Co-host]

Kamala couldn't spend five minutes with a reporter. He spent three hours with Rogan. So I believe the war.

[Ben Berkwam]

Wait, Eric, would you have wanted three hours of Kamala Harris, but she couldn't come up with.

[Co-host]

She didn't have an answer for one question. How are you going to fix inflation? And Trump will spend three hours, you know, talking about everything. That was a fascinating interview, by the way. Right. But what it did was it kind of showed the world like, okay, so there's more to media than just watching, you know, the big three, abc, NBC, CBS, and the other three cable networks and networks like this. And what we're. My show is still going to be available on podcasts and as, I guess others are as well. I think that's where things are going. I just wanted to show you guys this real, real quickly. This is a. A White House hard pass. Trump gave this.

[Mike Davis]

Rubbing that in.

[Co-host]

Trump gave this to me in 2016. Day one or week one. Let's call it week one. I had it for four years. When Biden was elected, they pulled it. The Biden administration pulled a hard pass. Allows you to present to the, to the White House complex and just show it. And you get in. You don't have to have a meeting. You don't have to have someone get you. And he came back and got it. And Jack, when they put that new media seat in the briefing room and they don't start with the ap, by the way, it's Gulf of America ap. They don't start with the ap. First question every time. It's fantastic.

[Host]

When they took your card away from you, did the press report. That's unfair. No, they didn't. They didn't quite get.

[Mike Davis]

They didn't have your back on that one. Unbelievable.

[Co-host]

I found out the hard way. I showed Eric.

[Ben Berkwam]

Did you see. Did you see what Caroline just announced this morning? It was either this morning or last night. It's not just new media. You know what she's doing now? Local media row. I love this idea. So a whole media row where I guess it's going to be on a rotational basis, where they're bringing in local media from all around the country, people who would never get a bite at the apple normally. So, yeah, bring them in.

[Co-host]

Right, Right.

[Host]

Unreal. Ben, any last.

[Mike Davis]

Well, I think I used the wrong promo code for Patriot Mobile. I got to use war room.

[John Eastman]

Is it.

[Mike Davis]

Which which is the Patriot Mobile one. When we're on war, I don't know one of them. Just use Patriot Mobile.

[Host]

That's good. All right, we're in the war room at CPAC, Inner Harbor, D.C. next year in Texas, we're announcing the Eric Bowling Show. Four p.m. every day.

[Frank]

Every day?

[Host]

Every day. Four before Bannon at five. We're coming back. We're expecting Elon. I think he's wrapping up. Stephen K. Bannon's on the main floor. Maybe back in the.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Ben Berkwam]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Host]

All right, back with the great Stephen K. Bannon. War room at CPAC this year, the Washington Harbor Gaylord Hotel. Make your way down. We're in the basement. We got in a little trouble last year. We're making too much noise being too rowdy.

[Mike Davis]

Dungeon, Dave. Dungeon. I think we're in the dungeon.

[Host]

I think we got Stephen K. Bannon coming up to the main stage. Mike Lindell is with us. We'll be coming back to him to sell some pillows. But here we go, the great Stephen K. Bannon, main stage at cpac. Here we go. Give him a round.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yo. What a glorious day. Hold it. How did I draw? How did I draw the card to follow Elon Musk? Come on, man. You bring out the world's wealthiest guy, Superman. I'm supposed to follow it. I'm just a crazy Irishman. This is a glorious day. You know why? It's glorious. Cash Patel's director of the FBI, confirmed by the United States Senate, as was Bobby Kennedy Jr. Tulsi, Gabbard, Pete Hexseth. Didn't they tell you it couldn't be done? Didn't they? All right there. Didn't the mainstream media say it couldn't be done? None of them. Right. It's a glorious day. Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell's gone. He retired. Right. You did that, remember, on the Ukraine vote. Remember that?

[John Eastman]

You broke.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He broke his pick on that. You delivered that just like you delivered Tulsi and Bobby and Pete and Cash. They said Trump wouldn't get any of his cabinet members. Key he got them all.

[Ben Berkwam]

Why?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Because of you. Scott Bessen today said Elon's group in the first 30 days found $55 billion of waste, fraud and abuse. Right? $55 billion. That's going to add up to 6, 700, $800 billion in one month. They've done that. And President Trump comes that day, he's so excited. He says, hey, I think we can balance the budget, right? President Trump. Hang on for a second. Let's just get it down to under a trillion. We'll start there. Zelensky's been put in his place, right? Right. And the J6ers are here at CPAC. All of them, from the medium high security prisons to the U.S. penitentiaries to the men that got diesel therapy, all of them are here. Right. They don't like that up there. You don't like the J6s being here. The J6 are here. Hey, and let me tell you something else. I talked to Ambassador Rick Grinnell last night and the J6ers, I think the J6 choir is going to play the Kennedy center for a night in honor of their families. In fact, I got an idea. The night that they play, the J6 choir plays and opens the New. You know, the new. The new. With Rick Renell and President Trump as chairman, we have the J6 choir, right? And we invite all the families. They try to destroy the J6ers, and they get to sit in the boxes where the elite sit, right? And we take the elite for just one night and we take them down to the D.C. gulag, right? For one night. Think they can handle. Think they can handle that? I don't think so either. Game likes game, right? Game knows game, right? I'll tell you, it's game. The gentleman sitting in the White House, Donald J. Trump. It's a glorious day. Days of thunder. Days of thunder and years of lightning. Every Day is Christmas Day. Every day you get more executive orders, more executive action. It's not going to stop. But you know what's the most important thing of all? That it's you. You're here today at cpac. You represent the tip of the tip of the spear of the populist nationalist movement. All of that, from Cash Patel to McConnell leaving to the J6 being free, right? To Zelensky being put in his place. And Elon just said it right there. It's been nothing but grift. The parents and the kids in Ukraine didn't want him to die. Who wanted to die? The globalists want him to die. Who said stop it? You said, stop it. You gave voice to President Trump. Now, why? Why is it so important that all the media's here in the world's here? And the Financial Times of London and the New York Times and all these. Why? Why are they all here? They're not here to see me. They can see me every day on Real America's Voice screaming like a madman at your microphone. They can see Rob Schmidt and Elon. Elon's everywhere, right? It's great. He does. He's everywhere. Right. J.D.

[Host]

Vance.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Great. Gave a great speech. You can see J.D. all the time. President Trump's gonna give a magnificent speech on Saturday. Is he? But they get enough of President Trump every day, don't they? Hell, yeah. He calls them into the Oval Office. He signed an executive officer's office executive orders. And they're sitting there throwing these questions.

[Ben Berkwam]

Ba boom, ba boom.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He's like a howitzer. Oh, they got enough of President Trump. You know what they're really here for? They're here because of you. They can't defeat what they don't understand. They can't destroy what they don't understand. Right? They can't contain what they don't understand. From Riyadh to Beijing to Berlin to the city of London to Buenos Aires, you name it. Every world capital, every hedge fund, every political consultant, all the money, all the power, all the legislation. You know what they want? They want to understand maga. You know why you represent the best of the American people in your righteous indignation? You rose up, right? You rose up. How many times I've been doing this.

[Steve Bannon]

Last two or three years?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What did I tell you last year on this very stage, we're going to win. We're going to win the primary, we're going to win the general election, and Donald Trump's going to return to the White House. And all these guys, all the Mainstream media. The fake news mocked and ridiculed. Trump's not going to not going to win the primary. Right. They had. Who was it? Nikki. Nikki Hale had governor and I like Governor Sanson. Governor DeSantis dropped out by then.

[Steve Bannon]

I don't remember.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, soon thereafter. You had Trump's back. You had Trump's back.

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