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Episode 4298: DOGE Subcommittee And President Trump's First Cabinet Meeting Of Second Term
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.
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Terry Schilling
Medieval on these people.
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Steve Bannon
Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
The people have had a belly full of it.
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Steve Bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
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Terry Schilling
I know you try to do everything.
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Steve Bannon
In the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It's going to happen.
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Chris Rufo
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Terry Schilling
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Terry Schilling
It's Wednesday the 26th of February, year of our Lord 2025. President Trump's first cabinet meeting about to start. There's a pool camera and some pool reporters. We'll go there soon as we got Brian Glenn's up on Capitol Hill. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Subcommittee on Doge Getting to these cuts. Ways for an abuse. But I want to get Terry Schilling. We're going to go to either when they start. I want to go to Terry Schilling first. Terry and I had Mike Benzon last night, but I want to do a follow up on this. We want to stay on this story, which is not something we normally cover, except for the fact this is so deeply disturbing about senior people in the US Government, and particularly in the deep state. And not just that, in two of the most, most sensitive areas, our government, NSA and the CIA. Can you tell us what's going on and how disturbing this is and what's being done about it?
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Chris Rufo
Yeah, of course, it's. Thanks for having me on, Steve. I've got all the receipts. Been pouring over it since last night when it first came out. NSA and CIA employees have these chat threads. Okay. And it's been uncovered and declassified that they've been talking about things that really should never be talked about at work. Right. There are human resources rules where you're not allowed to talk about things of any sexual nature at work because it makes people feel uncomfortable. And you're definitely not allowed to use company resources to do this. And they've been using these chat threads. But, Steve, it's not all just like, weird stuff. It's. I'm sorry, disgusting stuff. A lot of it's just weird. The RUFO uncovered this, actually, and he uncovered. There's these threads where they're talking about. Terry.
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Terry Schilling
Hey, Terry, Terry, Terry. Hang on one second. I just want to go live to mtg. You stay right there. We're going to come back and get all this. Let's go to the DOGE subcommittee. Return with Terry Schilling in a moment.
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Elon Musk
23 alone, Americans privately donated over 557 billion of their own money. Corporations donated over 37 billion. Foundations donated over 103 billion. That is incredible. Incredible. Of the American people in 2023, nearly 76 million Americans, almost 30% of Americans formally volunteered through an organization. Volunteered. The government did not make them do that. They did this on their own. Donating and volunteering time is what supports schools and shelters, hospitals and hotlines, food banks and more across only our country. Not only our country, but across the world. Ask anyone in western North Carolina, whether it be individuals, churches or businesses. The American people are the most generous people in the entire world. And I'm so proud of that. They should be the ones who decide where their money goes. They can choose if they want to donate to a charity, a school, a church or a non profit. They can choose if they want to privately donate to a transgender salon in Mumbai. They can choose if they want to privately donate to the British Broadcasting Corporation. They can choose if they want to privately donate to the Wuhan Institute of virology through EcoHealth alliance or to electric vehicles in Vietnam or to changing the national census in Bangladesh to be more gender inclusive. That is something they should be able to choose. That is something they should never be forced to do by our government. The Democrat run USAID should not get to use our federal government, our US taxpayer dollars as their party piggy bank to push their radical agenda in countries that we have no business giving money to.96% of all political contributions from USAID employees go to Democrat party candidates or PACs. That's 96%. Not only is USAID giving $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland or 50,000 for transgender opera in Colombia or entrenched to entrench their left wing ideology across the globe. USAID has been transformed into an America last foreign aid slush fund to prop up extremist groups, implement censorship campaigns and interfere in foreign elections to force regime change around the world. That is the dark truth about usaid. That is the story the American people deserve to know. Not only was USAID never designed to be what it has morphed into, but these things should never have been funded in the first place. In fiscal year 2023, USAID dispersed roughly 44 billion of aid across 160 countries and regions around the world. During the four years of the Biden administration, 181 countries received approximately $240 billion in U.S. development aid, with Ukraine being the top recipient. Other top recipients include Ethiopia, Jordan, Israel and Somalia. So, after hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars have been distributed throughout the world, has the world become safer? No. Has the world become more stable? No. Is the perception of the United States around the globe any better? No. But have some of the most anti democratic principles like censorship and the canceling of elections been funded through USAID because of opposition to the ruling regimes? Yes. Has money through USAID been funded, funneled to terrorists? Yes. Foreign aid from USAID to the un, particularly the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees in the near east, is directly funding Hamas terrorists. Humanitarian relief intended for the Afghan people was diverted to the Taliban. Money intended to support democracy is being used as a slush fund for liberal propaganda supporting terrorist, gender ideology, diversity, equity and inclusion, climate activism, censorship and regime change. Do you think this is what the American people think of when they think of foreign aid? Absolutely not. Taxpayer funds have literally been used to undermine U.S. interest and counter American foreign policy goals under the guise of foreign aid. This is unacceptable and the American people agree. Thankfully, President Trump has taken action to address these issues. The election of President Trump was a clear mandate by the American people that they will no longer tolerate this. He is putting an end to the foreign aid slush fund, ensuring the hard working American taxpayers dollars are supporting America first policies and taking care of our own people at home. And we will do the same with that. I now recognize ranking member Stansbury for the purpose of making an opening statement.
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Max Primorak
All right, well, good morning everyone, and welcome to the Elon Musk Chainsaw Massacre. Except for this remake of a classic is terrible because it's hurting real people. And its lead character, Mr. Musk, hasn't shown up in front of this committee or Congress at all. We also, of course, call this the Subcommittee on Doge or Project 2025, as we'll see here during the Q and A. So today in this hearing on foreign aid, which the GOP has called, you're going to hear all kinds of wild conspiracy theories, accusations and unfounded data. It's designed to confuse and provide cover for Donald Trump and Elon Musk in their reckless gutting of our foreign aid and are reordering under the Trump administration of international affairs. But before we dive into the details, I want to zoom out and provide some critical context here about why this is happening. So first of all, let's talk about what happened over the last two weeks as the administration took an abrupt about face in international relations. After 64 years of USAID and supporting our allies in Europe, turning its back on longstanding allies, and now suddenly embracing and enabling U.S. foreign adversaries. Let's do a little oversight here. Last week, the administration shocked the world as the Vice President took to the global stage and addressed European leaders and informed them that the Trump administration believes that the greatest threat to Europe is not the autocratic leader who invaded our Western ally three years ago and committed war crimes and atrocities against the Ukrainian people and threatened Western democracy, but instead, the VP said it was, quote, a threat from from within. He then snubbed our German allies and in a unprecedented move, tacitly endorsed and then met with a far right candidate from the German parliament who Elon Musk has spent months backing. This is a party that is so extreme that even conservatives in Germany will not form a government with them. Then over the weekend, Donald Trump went on a wild rant on social media embracing Vladimir Putin, Putin and repeating Russian propaganda, trying to rewrite history and falsely claim that Ukraine started a war against its own people. Then on Monday, Trump had the United States of America vote against Russia vote with Russia, North Korea and China as four of the only eight countries in the world voting in the UN against a resolution supporting Ukraine and affirming Ukraine's sovereignty. When you think about what this means in the context of American history, it's truly astonishing. That same day, which was only two days ago, the administration announced that they would proceed with firing another 2,000 USAID workers, even as a court ruled that the administration's dismantling of the aid organization is illegal. And interestingly, one of the main opponents of USAID programs is Donald Trump's buddy, Vladimir Putin. Why? Because among the programs that the US Was funding before the funding was frozen was aid to Ukraine, including safe houses on the front lines, a free and open press to help keep people informed what was happening in the war, not to mention refugee resettlement in the United States. USAID was also engaged in democracy building in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, especially with the fall of the USSR. Of course, Mr. Putin didn't like that either. And these investments have been totally decimated over the last several weeks. Over the last five years, USAID has funded international aid to 212 countries around the world to promote international peace and security, to help maintain stability and ensure that we are making good on America's promises. These investments are a fraction of the cost of weapons and defense and the US in the process, is able to help promote national security, stop global pandemics, prevent hunger and mass migrations, and make the world and the United States a safer place. So when we hear conservative allies of Donald Trump repeat wild and unfounded claims about international aid and we see a coordinated attack by conservative media think tanks like those who are here today, members of Congress, the administration, we have to ask ourselves, what is really going on here, folks? Why the hell are they so hell bent on dismantling an organization that has been so vital to American interests and Western democracy for so long? Over the last several days, they have fired thousands of federal employees. It really does make you wonder, doesn't it? And by the way, while they've been doing that, China has actually moved in already to places in South Asia that had their funding cut and is beginning to replace American diplomacy and aid in those places. So as we listen to this hearing today and hear from our witnesses, which I look forward to, I hope that we can get to the bottom of what is actually going on here today. And with that, I look forward to hearing the testimony.
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Elon Musk
January 24, Secretary of State Marco Rubio gave an order that came with a waiver for emergency food assistance, which was broadened even further several days later for life saving services. Secretary Rubio has stated very clearly we have a blanket waiver. And anybody who tells you they don't understand it, let me repeat it in very simple words, if it saves lives, if it's emergency life saving aid, food, medicine, whatever, they have a waiver. I don't know how much clearer we can be. And if we're not applying it, then maybe we're not a very good organization and maybe they shouldn't be getting any money at all. Additionally, in kind, food assistance purchased from US Farmers is continuing. I'm pleased to introduce our witnesses today. Max Primorak is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
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Terry Schilling
We're going to get back to some of the witnesses. We're going to dip in and out of this. Particularly, as you know, we will focus somewhat on the Democrats asking cheap shot questions because you see the angle of attack they're coming at, the information warfare. I know the audience loved her. The congresswoman's tee up right there. I could hear heads blowing up as it went because. But you see, this is what, this is, what half the country hears every day, is that that's what we have to combat. Want to go to Schilling for a second? Terry's back with us. Terry. And this story is not getting the amount of coverage it should get. So let's hit rewind quickly. I don't think the Cabinet meeting is going to start to the bottom of the hour. We're going to dip back in and out of some of the explosive testimony and questions from the Democrats in the Doge hearing. But there was, I guess, a chat room or some sort of digital space where people at the National Security Agency, nsa, which is the Fort Meade, the spook of all spooks, right? And coupled with CIA personnel, was a chat room with what affinity group, lgbtq. What was it?
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Chris Rufo
Yep. No, that's right. So basically these were NSA and CIA employees and even dia. There were Navy employees on here that were all communicating. Steve, the group chats got leaked, right? This is like the nightmare for every young man out there. The group chats got leaked. But they're talking about weird things. It's not just. There's a lot of disgusting things. Like there's this whole section where they're talking about their identities, but they're talking about getting trans surgeries. And I want to read some of this to you because I think it's important so that you guys know who is in charge of our National Security Administration. They say here, and this is all during the work hours, by the way. This was at 3:57pm they said someone from the U.S. navy says, right, that's the big thing for me was being able to wear leggings or bikinis without having to wear a gaff underneath it. Then someone just shortly after this says, also, one of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when I pee. I don't have to push anything down to make sure it aims straight. Steve, I can't read some of this stuff without laughing or vomiting. Another one says, I mean, honestly, the rest is nice too. Wearing panties without worrying about showing, seeing my reflection in the mirror wearing leggings. But the pee thing is something I never thought of, but it's really nice. These are people that are talking. They're government employees doing this on work hours, on government property. This is all like sexual harassment. You're not in the workplace. In normal workplaces, you're not allowed to talk about things of a sexual nature. There's whole sections where there's one person in here that's fantasizing about the idea of having a hermaphrodite child so that they could truly raise them as a true non binary baby. There's whole sections about promoting ethical non monogamy. They're using words, Steve, I've been coming on this show for so long. You know how in the weeds I am on all this sexual left stuff. There are terms here I've never even heard before. A polycule. And they explain it here. A polycule is a polyamorous group. So this is a group of people that are all screwing around on their partner, but they're doing it ethically and with their partner's consent. There's this. I'm going to read this paragraph because maybe, maybe the war room posse can explain it to me. And by the way, this is at 4:40pm in the afternoon on a workday. So mine looks like a triple bond with P2, double bonds with P3 and P4 who have triple bond between each other. Double bonds with P5 and P6 who have a triple bond. I think this is like. So there's a big group of people, like six people. People that are all. Or sorry, it's a total of 8 people in this group. They're all sleeping around with each other and then they have. They don't all sleep around with each other in the group. They only. It's crazy, Steve. This is all being done by government employees at the national security.
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Terry Schilling
But here's the question. But this is what I'm missing. These people have super high security. This is not like confidential, secret, top secret. These people have the highest security clearances by the most secretive agencies in our government that have the most sensitive material. That one could argue. And I'm a big believer in declassifying most of this stuff. But if you had to have certain stuff that was classified for national security, these would be the places that have it. That's what's. This is not like some, you know, affinity group out there. You know that that's an act group of activists. There's not some corporate you corporation that has this as part of a DEI initiative. These are people with incredibly high. That have been deemed by our country and by the apparatus, the national security and intelligence apparatus that oversees the deep state and supposedly oversees the security of the country. These people have been deemed guardians of our republic in the biggest state secrets. State secrets of our republic, are they not?
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Chris Rufo
No. That's what is so enraging about this, Steve. These are the watchmen. These are people that should be like daily mask goers, people that are constantly praying. These are people that should have like the cleanest reputations, nothing weird in their background. Totally normal, like very boring people. These should be like autists basically who just process numbers and process data. They don't have emotions. They aren't distracted by all this crazy sexual stuff. But these are the watchmen. And here's where I think it gets really interesting, Steve, is that I think these people have no shame. They're so, like, lost. They're so, like, in this disordered world that they don't even realize how offensive this is to a factory worker or to a plumber or to, like, people out there slaving away, making this country actually run. They don't realize how disordered their lives are, that they're just openly talking about it. These are things that are shameful. These are things that anyone should be embarrassed if it got leaked. But I think that the people at the top. And here's the thing, Steve, I'm sorry, this is just a lot. The NSA and the CIA, the intelligence agencies, they didn't know about these threats going on. Their superiors either weren't paying attention or don't. Or worse, Steve, they weren't paying attention or they don't think it's bad. Right? And I think that that's worse. Because if you don't think this stuff is bad, what do you think is bad? The answer is they think.
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Terry Schilling
Yeah, they can listen. They can listen to all your phone calls. They knew this was going on. I want to connect a dot, too, back to the CNN lead on. I think it was Sunday. They're saying that the DOGE effort are reducing this reduction in force, the rif, particularly where it hits something, and they use the CIA specifically when it hits Langley, that you're going to cause a national security problem because you have all these people that have these very high security clearances that are now going to be cut loose. And that could be a breeding ground for foreign intelligence services like the Chinese Communist Party or the Persians or the Russians, whoever, to basically scoop these people up and get their secrets. Well, right here, these guys knew this was going on. It's impossible that senior authorities, because I'm sure there's a couple of three senior authorities in the chat room itself. It's impossible they didn't know this is going on. And you see the level of depravity and the opportunity not just for blackmail, but if these people were let go, which to me, they should be terminated immediately and prosecuted, they could flip with the highest state secrets we have and or methods and processes. Right. And turn it over to foreign intelligence services.
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Chris Rufo
Terry Schilling no, that's exactly right, Steve. If Chris Ruffo was able to get this, the CCP have it, they've had it for a long time that the Russians have It. All of our enemies have it. If Chris Ruffo and you and I are talking about this on TV right now, these guys had it years ago, probably. And I actually think this might explain a lot of the crazy decisions that Biden made in his White House. And I think also I've always wondered why Mark Milley thought it was a good idea to call the Chinese and tip them off that he was gonna stop anything that Donald Trump might be doing out the door. He called a foreign adversary and let them know. He would let them know about any attacks potentially coming. Why would he do that unless they had some compromising information? I mean, I think this brings a lot to light. These agencies are completely compromised at this point. Who else do we have information on? This is just what's public. And when it gets to me, it's not confidential whatsoever. Right. So I think this is very dangerous and we need a completely clean house. We are in serious danger and our national security is in peril right now. I think.
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Terry Schilling
Terry, where did we go? You're breaking all types of stories like this and working on making sure this mess gets cleaned up as others, because Tulsi Gabbard has put down the word that she's doing a major investigation on this right now. I'm sure it's gonna be a topic in the Cabinet meeting that's gonna take place here momentarily. Where do people go to get you for additional information?
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Chris Rufo
The best thing, the quickest breaking way to get information out there now. Right now, Steve is on X, so follow me on X at Shilling 1776. I'm on every platform, though, so it's all just schilling. 1776 is as you see it.
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Terry Schilling
This was on the driving factors in President Trump's election, and it's getting worse. President Trump is taking action like Tulsi Gabbard's taking action. But the resistance on this is not going away. In fact, I actually think they're digging in harder. Do you anticipate, first off, am I correct in that or. That's just my perception, number one. And number two, do you see this rolling out and even taking. Playing a part in the Virginia governor's race, which is probably the most important political race we have this year, sir.
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Chris Rufo
Well, don't sleep on New Jersey, Steve, because I think we got a shot to win both in Virginia and New Jersey. And these culture war topics are going to be front and center. No, the resistance isn't going away. In fact, it's just changing battlefields. So you're right. Trump is Winning on the culture war, especially on the gender identity stuff. Cleaning up girls, sports and protecting our kids. And if you look at the polling on this, it's insane. Trump is talking about this publicly. He's saying it's a 90% approval. He's right. He's not, you know, he talks a good game sometimes, talks a lot of trash, but he's actually right. The numbers are like 86, 87% approval on the gender identity stuff he's doing. But here's where they're moving the battlefield to is the courts, right? And the whole. I talked to Mike, Dave, after our conversation last week, I talked to Mike Davis about this, about these temporary restraining orders that these nationwide injunctions that these judges are doing. So next step is for the Trump administration to challenge those temporary restraining orders. But here's where it gets interesting and very good for us, Steve. The Supreme Court has made it very clear over the past few months that they are growing tired of these nationwide injunctions because they're being abused. So the longer we need to keep fighting on this gender identity stuff because if the judges at the lower levels, the districts and the appeal courts keep messing around, they're gonna find out because the Supreme Court's gonna take away their ability to do these garbage nationwide injunctions. So keep fighting on the gender identity stuff cuz the left can't back away from it. Force them to do these nationwide injunctions and then we can get rid of them entirely. Cuz the Supreme Court will restrict the lower courts ability to continue to do these nationwide injunctions. We just need to keep fighting. It's a great opening for us.
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Terry Schilling
Last point on this, when Natalie Winters talks about embeds, this is what she's talking about. You have in these two and a half, three million government employees, right? These bureaucrats, the people that run the administrative state and the deep state. You have these types of people, these are Trump haters and these people are depraved. There's nothing they won't do to destroy maga. This is where it gets to be a spiritual war. And I strongly recommend, and it's going to be quite distasteful because it was, like I said, this is not my line of country, man. It was rough reading. But Chris Ruffo has done a tremendous public service by putting this stuff up. And Terry, as you know, because we talked about how can we even put it up on the show and much less how are we going to put it on the, the morning part of the show, right, where there's so many homeschoolers but this has to be addressed. And this is what Natalie means by, by embeds that your government's replete. Maybe not, not in this topic, but analogous other, other chat rooms doing other things right. Maybe not quite so depraved, but the government's full of this. And this is what President Trump. These are embeds. This is what President Trump has to fight every day. It's like being Saigon in 1967. Terry Schilling, one more time. Where are they going to order to get you?
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Chris Rufo
It's just Schilling 1776. But Steve, one more thing if I could. There's a whole section in here where these government employees at the NSA and CIA where they're talking about how they had to fly over to Thailand to get their sex change procedures. Steve, I don't have any money to pay. Where are these guys getting all this money? They're getting paid off or something. They're getting paid way too much money. It's. It's so corrupt.
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Terry Schilling
Unbelievable. Sick. Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate you.
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Chris Rufo
Thanks, Steve.
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Terry Schilling
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Elon Musk
Thank you. I now recognize myself for five minutes of questions and I will inform this committee and the public watching that if Pardon? Oh sorry. I'm sorry Mr. Unger. Apologize. I didn't mean to skip over you. I now recognize Mr. Unger for five minutes.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Madam Chair, ranking Member Stansberry, Distinguished members of the subcommittee, I am honored to share my views with you. They are my own and not those of my current or former employers. I have served at USAID and the State Department in multiple roles and in non governmental positions focused on U.S. foreign aid reform and global development. My government service took place during the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Every US administration since World War II has wanted to shape foreign aid in line with its goals. But strangling the system into extinction is akin to unilaterally disarming at a time of mounting geopolitical competition for partnerships globally. Throwing away our toolbox does not make us safer or well positioned to influence the world. Our set of foreign aid tools reflects enlightened self interest. With it, the US Countered communism and enhanced the education, farming productivity and health of people around the world, while also saving lives. Our international AIDS and malaria programs have collectively saved more than 35 million lives over the past couple decades. U.S. assistance has also built partnerships and economic growth, so much so that 11 of America's 15 biggest trading partners were former recipients of U.S. foreign assistance. We are now in a period of renewed geostrategic competition. China has been vying with the US for partnerships across the global south, inking deals where it can. China can and will fill soft power voids Left by the U.S. other potential threats to our security are also connected to developing countries and fragile states, from the potential resurgence of ISIS in the Middle east to the spreading influence of Islamist militants and Russian mercenaries across the Sahel on the eastern edge of Europe. Russian aggression may continue to grow unchecked. And in Colombia, the strife from neighboring Venezuela is spilling over to yield the worst violence in a generation. With that backdrop, the administration has abruptly and collectively disabled US Tools of foreign assistance. The White House has said it is cutting programs that do not benefit Americans. But their approach is dismantling many programs that help Americans, thereby cutting off our nose to spite our face. This is evident in many ways. First, the government has purchased more than $2 billion in food aid annually from American farmers. And American farms supply more than 40% of the food aid USAID sends around the world. But with the foreign aid freeze and stop work order, rice, wheat and soybeans are going to waste in transit and in ports. In Houston alone, hundreds of tons of American grown wheat have been stranded. The recklessness of the current approach is evident in health efforts too. We need our foreign aid to prevent outbreaks of infectious diseases from spreading before reaching our shores. But US funded early detection and treatment for deadly diseases like Ebola have sputtered to a standstill even where very few.
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Terry Schilling
Okay, right there. And there'll be cross examination. What I appreciate, of course the Democrats get to put up some, but MTG is running pretty even handed right there. You have a counter, right? The saying, hey, this is done too quickly. Without thought that these programs in the past have helped win the cold war, et cetera, et cetera. I think the reality is that they became way off track. National Review in fact, I'll address it this afternoon. Talk about, I think the Endowment for Democracy, the fund for Democracy, which is a big item during the cold war. But these get way off track as you're not just awoke and weaponized, but you have a totally different mindset that particularly hates. And this is one of the reasons that the post war international rules based order turned on the American people, turned on working class people as the enemy. First they gutted the factories, the lords of easy money on Wall street, the private equity funds, the hedge funds ship the jobs to make money overseas. So they gutted. This is the economic distress. This is why working. So many working class people have to have, I don't know, they call it economic security or food security. The big snap programs, food stamp programs, plus Medicaid. It's the economic distress of the working class and the middle class put on by an economic model that didn't put citizens first. It didn't put citizens first. What it did was ravage the rawest and most corrupt form of state and crony capitalism. So that they took, they socialized all the risk and they kept unlimited upside for themselves. What do I mean by that? Whether you have bank failure in 2008 or a bank failure in Silicon Valley bank or you have right now and I've got this fascinating book from Alexander Karp called the technological Republic and he's the head of Palantir. And of all the oligarchs, he's probably the one least on the spectrum. But he makes an argument for another Marshall Plan or Mercury Space Plan to essentially bail out the oligarchs because they haven't, they haven't hit their marks on this Faustian bargain that we made with them, that the Obama administration and Biden made with them to let become oligarchs so they could control the commanding heights of the algorithmic age. They failed in that flat out. This is what, this is what this whole USA idea is. And that's only one thing I hope today's hearing, I think a lot of it's going to be usaid. I know they have the guy from Rob Blowey's Daily Signal that wrote the book Woke to Puss, which is quite fascinating. He kind of ties it all together. Not just a woke agenda, but also how it was executed. And USAID has been one that we've been on for a long time, you know, playing by the rules. And that's what people were doing. The House continued to override one what President Trump wanted to do. But then its own members, Matt Gaetz, mtg, Lauren Boebert, Eli Crane, Andy Biggs, Gosar, Thomas Massie. Names sound familiar. That tried to gut USAID and were overridden by Republican votes. So the committee hearing, we'll dip back in. What I'd like to do is I'd like to go back in when the Democrats. I think this worked well in the confirmation hearing because you see how they're playing ball. We need you, your information warriors. The reason we've had so many victories is because of you and because you're well armed and focused. Let me say at, at cpac, I was amazing. Once again, when the posse gets together, I'm able to do these meet and greets and we'll do one this Friday at in Tarrant county is I hear what you're working on and it amazes me the sharp focus that you have on those items of the day that most interest you. The hardest thing we have for the show is to keep ahead of the audience. The hardest thing now is actually to find time to do everything we want to do, particularly with the live coverage we want to give of activities, particularly in the White House. Because this is historic. You're seeing history being made. And I want, I've talked to my production team and Grace and Mo and others and, and of course the folks at Real America's Voice and because we have access now with Natalie and Amanda Head and Brian at the White House, you're seeing history being made there every day. I mean, these are. These President Trump is using and moving the big muscles. This is not marginalia. Let's go back to the, you know, the Clintons, everybody says the Clintons included, they feel they wasted their presidency playing small ball. In hindsight, you know, school uniforms. Clinton doesn't have any real. Now he sits and goes, well, you know, it's decades. Nothing happens. And there are weeks in which decades happen. I would argue differently. You had to follow the. You had the Berlin Wall in 89, but then you had the whole situation in Russia. It was mishandled by Clinton. And he had plenty of opportunities with the Chinese Communist Party, yet you gave him World Trade Organization, you gave him a sovereign nation on Clinton. I know this is totally unrelated to Chinese generals walking through the White House with bags of cash, but they blew it. Trump's not blowing it. Every day in the Trump White House is like a term in the Clinton White House. Just. It's amazing. I can tell you. We go through, and I look at night of what is planned the next day in the White House, what they've done. It's just, it's so monumental on so many different areas. That's why the first Cabinet meeting has not started yet to run into tentatively scheduled for 11. Then they think, they push 11:30. What will happen? Many times, just to give you how it's run, people start congregating and they'll get into the Oval and President Trump's holding court. I mean, he's getting feedback. He's a people person. He's a guy that. He takes a lot of meetings, took a lot of meetings. When he ran Trump Organization, he would say, he would tell me all the time. He didn't come in because he's not a corporate guy. He doesn't come in with a set agenda and people briefing, everything like that. He's a. In golf, we call it a field player. It's about the feel, you know, like they don't have a manufactured classic swing. They're a field player. And that's what he is in business. He sits there. And the other thing people don't understand, he's a listener. Now when he's got the press in there, he's dropping bombs and driving things. What do we got? Oh, the Cabinet meeting is about to start. Let's go live to the White House. Let's go ahead.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you very much. We appreciate you being here. And we put together a great Cabinet, and we've had tremendous success and we've been given a lot of credit for having a very successful first month. And we want to make that many months and years, actually. But we're going to have many good months and we're going to have many good years, I hope, and we're going to solve a lot of problems. We're doing very well with Russia, Ukraine. President Zelensky is going to be coming on Friday, that's now confirmed. And we're going to be signing an agreement which will be a very big agreement. And I want to thank Howard and Scott for the job you guys did in putting it together together really did an amazing job. And that will be on rare earth and other things. And as you know, we're in for probably $350 billion. Europe is in for $100 billion and that's a big difference. So we're in for probably three times as much. And yet it's very important to everybody. But Europe's very close. We have a big ocean separating us. So it's very important for Europe and they hopefully will step up and do maybe more than they're doing and maybe a lot more. The previous administration put us in a very bad position, but we've been able to make a deal where we're going to get our money back and we're going to get a lot of money in the future. And I think that's appropriate because we have taxpayers that are shouldn't be putting the bill and they shouldn't be footing the bill at more than the Europeans are paying. So it's all been worked out. We're happy about it. And I think that very importantly, we're going to be able to make a deal. Most importantly, by far, we're going to make a deal with Russia and Ukraine to stop killing people. They'll stop killing young Russian soldiers and young Ukrainian soldiers and other people, in addition in the towns and cities. And we will consider that a very important thing and a big accomplishment because it was going nowhere until this administration came in. They hadn't spoken to President Putin in two years. And so we'll keep you advised. Before we begin the Cabinet, I'd like to have Scott and a couple of people say a few things, but most importantly, where are you? This is a gentleman who's going places, the head of hud, and he's going to say, you all know him and you're going to say grace and then we'll have our meeting.
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Chris Rufo
Right.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you very much.
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Scott Turner
Thank you, Mr. President. Let's pray. Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege. Father, to be in your presence. God, thank you that you've allowed us to see this day. The Bible says that your mercies are new every morning. And Father God, we give you the glory and the honor. Thank you, God, for President Trump. Father, for appointing us. Father God, thank you for anointing us to do this job. Father, we pray you'll give the President, the vice president, wisdom. Father God, as they lead. Father, I pray for all of my colleagues that are here, around the table and in this room. Lord God, we pray that we would lead with a righteous clarity. Father God and as we serve the people of this country and every prospective agency, every job that we have, Father, we would humble ourselves before you and we would lead in a manner that you've called us to lead and to serve. Father, the Bible says that blessed is a nation whose God is the Lord. Well, Father, we today honor you and in your rightful place. Father, thank you for giving us this opportunity to restore faith in this country and be a blessing to the people of America. Lord God, to today in our meeting, we pray that you will be glorified in our conversation. In Jesus name. Amen.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Scott, that was a very good job you did. You've done that before, haven't you? So Scott Turner's a terrific young guy, is heading up hud and he's going to make us all very proud. Right?
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Scott Turner
Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you very much.
- [48:41]
Stephen K. Bannon
Great job. In just over one month, illegal voter crossings have plummeted by numbers that nobody has actually ever seen before, much more than 100%. And we've unleashed American energy at levels that will soon be reported. But we think we're going to get it going very quickly. We have incredible people on the energy front. I think we have really great people on every front. I'll let you know if they're not good, but I think they really are. And we're fighting every day to. To get the prices down. The inflation is stopping slowly, but part of the reason it's stopping is because of high interest rates and other problems that we inherited. But we have to get the prices down, not the inflation down, the prices of eggs and various other things. Eggs are a disaster. The Secretary of Agriculture is going to be showing you a chart that's actually mind boggling. What's happened, how low they were with us and how high they are now. But I think we can do something about it, Madam Secretary. And I think you're going to do a fantastic job in that position. One of the most important initiatives is Doge, and we have cut billions and billions and billions of dollars. We're looking to get it maybe to a trillion dollars. If we can do that, we're going to start getting to be at a point where, where we can think in terms of balancing budgets. Believe it or not, something you haven't heard in many, many years, decades, actually. And it's a big. Whether it's this year or next year, I think we'll be very close to balancing budgets. And the DOGE is very important. And Elon is here to give you a summary of what's happening. Some of the things they found, some of the horrible things they found, some of the theft and fraud and, and we call it waste and abuse, but a lot of fraud, and probably some fraud that we're not going to be able to prove is fraud. But when you hear the names and the places where this money is going, it's a disgrace. But we've requested that a lot of people. We want to make sure that the people are working. So letters were sent out, and I think everyone at this table is very much behind it. And if they, if they aren't, I'd want them to speak up, but they're very much behind it. Letters were sent out to people just to find out if the people exist, do they work, who do they work for? Where are they, you know, where have they been working? Have they been working for other companies or other entities at all, or being paid by the government? So they have two jobs, but they're supposed to have one. And the letter asks some simple questions like what have you done lately? And. And they can answer that, because I can. I can tell you everything I've done for the last long period of time, a lot more than a week. And in many cases, we haven't gotten responses. Usually that means that maybe that person doesn't exist, or that person doesn't want to say they're working for another company while being paid by the United States government. So there's a lot of interesting things. It's very unique, but we have a very unique situation because we have a lot of people that were scamming our country. We have a lot of dishonest people. We have a lot of people that took advantage of a lot of different situations, and we're not going to let that happen. So I'm going to ask if it's possible to have Elon get up first and talk about Doge, because it seems to be of great interest to everyone. I will say that there is a large group of people in this country that have such admiration for what we're doing. I got elected with a tremendous vote, winning every swing state, winning the popular vote, winning the counties by thousands of counties. I think it was 2,800 to 500. 2,800 counties to 500 counties. Think of that. And so we have a mandate to do this. And this is part of the reason I got elected. I got elected based on taxes and based on many things in the border, but also based on balancing budgets and getting our country back into shape. And this is a big part of it. So, Elon, if you could get up and explain where you are, how you're doing, and how much we're cutting, and it's an honor to have you. He's been a tremendously successful guy. He's really working so hard and he's got businesses to run. And in many ways they say, how do. How do you do this? And, you know, it's. He's sacrificing a lot and getting a lot of praise, I'll tell you. But he's also getting hit. And we would expect that. And that's the way it works. So I'd like to have Elon Musk please say a few words. Thank you, Elon.
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Donald Trump
Thank you, Mr. President. Well, I actually just call myself a humble tech support here because this is actually as crazy as it sounds. That is almost a literal description of the work that the Doge team is doing is helping fix the government computer systems. Many of these systems are extremely old. They don't communicate. There are a lot of mistakes in the systems. The software doesn't work. So we are actually tech support. It's ironic, but it's true. The overall goal here with the Deutsche team is to help address the enormous deficit we simply cannot sustain as a country. $2 trillion deficit. The interest rates, just the interest on the national debt now exceeds the Defense Department's spending. We spend a lot on the Defense Department, but we're spending like over a trillion dollars on interest. If this continues, the country will go down, become de facto bankrupt. It's not an optional thing. It is an essential thing. That's the reason I'm here. And taking a lot of plaque and getting a lot of death threats, by the way. I mean, I like to stack them up. But if we don't do this, America will go bankrupt. That's why it has to be done. I'm confident at this point. Knock on wood. Knock on my wooden head. Got a lot of word up there that we can actually find a trillion dollars in savings. That would be roughly 15% of the 7 trillion dollar budget. And obviously that can only be done with the support of everyone in this room. And I'd like to thank everyone for your support. Thank you very much. This can only be done with your support. So this is really the urgent of some support function for the president and for the agencies and departments to help achieve those savings and to effectively find 15% in reduction in fraud and waste. And we bring the receipts. So people say, like, well, is this real? Just go to doge.gov, line item by line item. We specify each item. And I should say, we will make mistakes. We won't be perfect, but when we make mistakes, we'll fix it very quickly. So, for example, with usaid, one of the things we accidentally canceled very briefly was Ebola. Ebola prevention. I think we all want Ebola prevention. So we restored the Ebola prevention immediately. And there was no interruption. But we do need to move quickly if we're in. If we're to achieve a trillion dollar deficit reduction in financial year 2026, it requires saving $4 billion per day, every day from now through the end of September. But we can do it, and we will do it. Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Would you have any questions of Elon while we're on the subject of those? Because we'll finish off with that. And if you would have any questions, please ask. You could ask me or Elon. Go ahead, please.
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Chris Rufo
Thank you, Mr. President.
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Donald Trump
Thank you, Mr. Musk. I just wanted to ask you that. President Trump put out a truth social.
- [56:34]
Chris Rufo
Today saying that everybody in the Cabinet was happy with you.
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Donald Trump
I just wondered if that.
- [56:39]
Chris Rufo
If you had heard otherwise and if you had heard anything about members of the Cabinet who weren't happy with the way things were going, and if so, what are you doing to address those. Any dissatisfaction?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Let the Cabinet speak just for a second. If you are well, throw him out of here.
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Terry Schilling
Is anybody unhappy?
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Stephen K. Bannon
They are. We have a lot of respect for Elon and that he's doing this, and some disagree a little bit. But I will tell you, for the most part, I think everyone's not only happy, they're thrilled. So go ahead, Elaine.
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Terry Schilling
I'm grateful.
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Donald Trump
President Trump has put together, I think, the best cabinet ever. Literally so. And I do not give false praise. This is an incredible group of people. I don't think such a talented team has actually ever been assembled. I think it's literally the best cabinet that the country's ever had. And I think. I think the company should be incredibly appreciative of people in this room.
- [57:46]
Stephen K. Bannon
Go ahead, please.
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Chris Rufo
Mr. President.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you.
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Donald Trump
Mr. Musk, are there about half of.
- [57:52]
Stephen K. Bannon
The government employees so far appear to.
- [57:54]
Donald Trump
Have responded to your request for what.
- [57:57]
Stephen K. Bannon
They'Ve been doing over the past week?
- [57:58]
Donald Trump
Is there a timeline in place for next moves for people being fired, and when can you expect to see results of that? Yes, well, to be clear, I think that email perhaps was best interpreted as a performance review, but actually it was a pulse check review. Do you have a pulse? Do you have a pulse and two neurons? So if you have pulse and two neurons, you can reply to an email. This is, I think, not a high bar is what I'm saying this is. Anyone can accomplish this. But what we are trying to get to the bottom of is we think there are a number of people under government payroll who are dead, which is probably why they can't respond. And some people who are not real people, they're literally fictional individuals that are collecting paychecks. Well, somebody's collecting paychecks on a fictional individual. So we're literally trying to figure out, are these people real? Are they alive? And can they write an email? Which I think is a reasonable expectation for the. You know, the American public would have at least that expectation of someone in the public sector.
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Chris Rufo
Mr. Mastermass, roughly a million employees.
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Donald Trump
It's not a high bar, guys.
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Terry Schilling
Come on.
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Chris Rufo
Roughly a million employees have responded so.
- [59:13]
Elon Musk
Far to this email.
- [59:14]
Chris Rufo
Does that mean that the remaining 1.
- [59:16]
Elon Musk
Million or so federal employees now risk being terminated?
- [59:19]
Donald Trump
And is it your understanding and expectation.
- [59:22]
Elon Musk
When you post a directive on F.
- [59:23]
Chris Rufo
That the Cabinet secretaries will follow that order? Because several agencies have instructed employees that this is voluntary or not to respond.
- [59:32]
Donald Trump
Yeah, well, so I guess it was like, last week, the President encouraged me via Truth Social and also by a phone call to be more aggressive. And I was like, okay, you know, yes, sir, Mr. President. We will indeed do that. The President is Commander in Chief. I do what the president asks. So. And I said, can we send out an email to everyone just saying, what did you get done last week? The President said, yes. So it did that. And, you know, we got a partial response. We're going to send another email. But our goal is not to be capricious or unfair. It's. We want to give people every opportunity to send an email. And the email could simply be, what I'm working on is too sensitive or classified to describe. Literally, just. That would be sufficient. You know, I think this is just common sense.
- [60:31]
Chris Rufo
And what is your target number for how many Workers, employees, you're looking to cut total.
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Donald Trump
We wish to keep everyone who is doing a job that is essential and doing that job well. But if the job is not essential or they're not doing the job well, okay.
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Terry Schilling
Stephen K. Bannon, War Room. We're passing on to Charlie Kirk and we continue live in the Cabinet meeting. We will be back here at 5:00pm Eastern Standard Time to wrap it all up for you. See you then.
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Stephen K. Bannon
People that haven't responded, though, Elon, they are on the bubble. You know, I wouldn't say that we're thrilled about it. You know, they haven't responded. Now maybe they don't exist. Maybe we were paying people that don't exist. Don't forget.
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