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Episode 4299: The Rise Of The New White House Press Corp
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Stephen K. Bannon
And 20 minutes today in the Cabinet Room in kind of a question and answer press conference. Today he's doing executive orders. I think that's been pushed to five. We'll have it up probably at 5:30 or six. He's just dominating the information war here. I think it's fantastic. And I think we can expect a lot more to Caroline Levitt and that team going forward.
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Elon Musk
Looks great.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Looks great. Steve, I'll give the hand it off to you.
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Natalie Winters
And as always, folks, if you want.
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Caroline Levitt
To learn a lot about everything, watch the War Room with Steve Bannon. Thanks, Steve.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Eric, thank you so much. Honored to do this. Okay, we're going to be going to the White House momentarily. Big afternoon at the White House. Also. Jeremy Brown was released this afternoon. And we're going to go to, we're going to go to Jeremy Brown's lawyers. Let's go and play. Let's go bring the show in. And then we'll, then we'll go to the White House and our White House correspondent, Natalie Winters.
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Elon Musk
Our goal is not to be capricious or unfair. It's we want to give people every opportunity to send an email. And the email could simply be what I'm working on is too sensitive or classified to describe. Like literally just that would be sufficient. You know, I think this is just common sense.
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Natalie Winters
And what is your target number for how many workers, employees you're looking to cut total?
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Elon Musk
We wish to keep everyone who is doing a job that is essential and doing that job well. But if the job is not essential.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Or they're not doing the job well.
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Elon Musk
They obviously should not be on the public payroll.
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Donald Trump
Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'd like to add that those million people that haven't responded, though, Elon, they are on the bubble. You know, I wouldn't say that we're thrilled about it. You know, they haven't responded. Now maybe they don't exist. Maybe we're paying people that don't exist. Don't forget, we just got here. This group just got here. But those people are on the bubble, as they say. Maybe they're going to be gone. Maybe they're not around. Maybe they have other jobs. Maybe they moved and they're not where they're supposed to be. A lot of things could have happened. I wouldn't say that Biden ran a very tight administration. They spent money like nobody has ever spent money before. Wasted money, the green new scam, all of the different things they spent money on. And you've seen that, you've seen that with Some of the things that I read in speeches, I read them and people can't believe when I read them. 20 million here, 30 million here for, you know, a little educational cost on something. Circumcision. Right, circumcision. $20 million to inform the people of such and such a country on other things and other things other than that. So, yeah, those people are. Right now we're trying to find out who those people are that haven't responded.
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Natalie Winters
I question about back on these cuts to the federal workforce. You mentioned you're interested in doing another round of this email. When would you like to see that? What would be the deadline and this time, would it be mandatory?
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Donald Trump
I think Elon wants to, and I think it's a good idea because, you know, those people, as I said before, they run the bubble. You've got a lot of people that have not responded. So we're trying to figure out, do they exist? Who are they? And it's possible that a lot of those people will be actually fired. And if that happened, that's okay, because that's what we're trying to do. This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and incompetently run. I think we had the worst president in the history of our country. He just left office. I think he's a disgrace, what he's done to our country by allowing millions of people to come into our country like that. And all of the other things, the inflation which he caused because of energy and stupid spending to spend hundreds of millions, trillions and trillions of dollars on the green news scam, a total scam. I have the best energy people, the best environmental people in the world around this table, and they can't even believe he got away with it. And then in leaving office, to send $20 billion here and $20 million there and 10 million and 5 million, and they couldn't spend the money fast enough. And let's get it out before Trump gets in. Let's just get it out to anybody. This is a disgrace to our nation and you don't write the fair thing. But look, you know the good news. The people see it, and that's why we won the election by so much.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So they have time to figure this out. And my guess is that there's going to be a combination of a lot of creative accounting tricks. There's going to be a combination of nipping around the edges at some of these programs. I think they're probably going to try and argue that the Doge cuts are going to allow them to implement these tax cuts. There's going to be a lot of creative ways to present this budget bill in a way that attempts to accomplish all the goals that they're looking for. The exact form and fashion of how that actually comes out in the wash is yet to be determined. But that, I think, is almost a secondary conversation to what the focus should really be here over the next couple of weeks. And that's the existing government funding structure, which right now is in real danger of not being reauthorized. I mean, we're less than a month away from a funding deadline, and that requires Democrats to participate. They have to get 60 votes in the Senate in order to make that happen. I mean, we're barreling towards a government shutdown. All the focus is on reconciliation. But at that point, that really doesn't matter as much as getting government funding extended in the near future.
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Natalie Winters
And Democrats, there have been lots of sort of national security norms shattered. The Comey have been fired as well. Well, but people weren't feeling that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Right. Covid is years away.
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Natalie Winters
They weren't. They weren't feeling the mismanagement. And I take your point about what Musk is doing is at Trump's direction. I think that's right. But I think what's extraordinary about this go round is that Trump has greenlit damage to the American people in a way that, you know, again, he at least seemed to try to, in his own mind, obsessively shield his people from. From harm the first time around. Yeah. And you know what's going to happen when Elon Musk goes into ATF and wants everybody's gun information? You know, we've got people in my state that fought real ID because they didn't want the government to have a real ID on them. And now these same people are supporting a president who's letting this private citizen, richest man in the world, get all of their personal information. And frankly, the other thing about this Nicole that we got to talk about is the lack of transparency here. The only way people are hearing about what he's doing is on his privately held company. The head of advertising. The head of X actually threatened advertisers a few weeks ago. The Wall Street Journal covered it. He said to the advertisers, you know, you better get on board or else. So you've got this guy leveraging a private business that he was way underwater with. Now the only way we can find about how the government is taking our private information and firing people that impact our lives is through his private company. How is that done in America. And how can voters approve of that? I just think we need to spend more time on how they're doing this in the dark. Except what Elon wants to put out on his company's websites.
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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Donald Trump
It's going to happen.
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Natalie Winters
And where do people like that go.
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Stephen K. Bannon
To share the big lie?
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Natalie Winters
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I wish that any of these people people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. It's Wednesday, the 26th of February, the year of our Lord 2025. Of course, action today at the White House. Action day on Capitol Hill on the Doge subcommittee. We covered them both this morning. We'll have clips for you during the next two hours. Just some logistics and housekeeping. Let's get out of the way. The president was supposed to be signing executive orders and having another press avail at 3 o'clock. I think that's been bumped till 5. Hopefully when we get that on tape, we'll come right back and show that. I think the president's also going to take questions at the executive order signing. Natalie Winters, as at the at the White House, a lot going on, Natalie, today, I think an hour and 10 hour and 20 minutes live. Really a press availability in the Cabinet room before he started his first Cabinet meeting and he let Elon Musk talk first. They talked doja lot. President Trump kind of went on a couple of rifts there, particularly about spending as the as the kindling gets ready for the firestorm that's going to happen on Capitol Hill about March 14th. And everybody's now focused since they passed a budget resolution last night for the reconciliation, which quite frankly could be done at any time. I know people want to do it. So the tax cuts are extended into this year, but the 14th of March hangs over like a specter over Capitol Hill. Natalie Winters, today at the White House, your observations.
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Natalie Winters
Just absolutely glorious in terms of a mainstream media beat down by President Donald Trump. I think after you saw the Q and A exchange today, honestly, I don't even understand why the White House Correspondents association would want to be in that room anymore. But I think today's historic for so many reasons. First and foremost, obviously, the mainstream media, I guess I should say the legacy media is just like a dog with a bone following this idea that Doge is something that is radically and woefully unpopular with the American people. But like we've seen in that Harvard poll, and like you can see in a lot of crosstabs from just a lot of state by state polling, the issue of Doge is something that is overwhelmingly supported by the American people. And there's this astroturf narrative going on. And I'm not just talking about because all these town halls popping up that you're seeing are being bankrolled by Democrat activists. But the mainstream media is so quick to impugn, malign and attack anything that Doge is doing, when in reality, the support among American people exists for it. And I think there's this idea that there's no transparency surrounding what Doge is doing. Yet in the same breath that the mainstream media is peddling that narrative, they're also condemning and criticizing Elon Musk for showing up at today's press briefing. We heard that narrative. I mean, I don't even know how many times from all the tents just down here. But I think another very important, you want signal, not noise moment coming out, not necessarily of the White House, but sort of the other side of the coin. What was going on on the Hill today at the Doge hearing? Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about a lot of this USAID corrupt grant money. They're not merely content just stopping and cutting these grants. They want to look retroactively and investigate the people who have been profiting off not just the fraud and abuse and the waste, but the intentional racketeering and, dare I say, money laundering. And when I say money laundering, I think that probably brings me to my third and most important point about what we saw go on at today's Cabinet meeting. Obviously, a lot, a lot of questions about Ukraine. You can sort of see it ingrained and emblazoned in every legacy media reporter's mind, the idea that President Trump is a Russian asset. So they're always trying to make him look like he's cozying up to Putin, but obviously that's not the case. Frankly, their questions are lackluster. And, Steve, I would love to get into the sort of reformation of what they've been doing in the press briefing room here. I obviously spend a lot of time here. I have a front row seat to the sort of internal meltdown that's been going on over that. But in terms of the summary of the Cabinet meeting, I'll leave it at that.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, I want to go to immediately. I'll come back to some of the details on particularly USAID in Ukraine, but I want to go Mother Jones, I guess, one of the most respected magazines and particularly investigative magazines on the left. I think David Korn is now the editor over there. They've got a, they've got a major article called Meet the New State Media. And of course you, Natalie, War room, Real America's Voice, others, Breitbart, Boyle, other folks that we're colleagues of, take a front row seat. And it's, I think they got a quote in here from Margaret Sullivan, the former editor, public editor of the New York Times, saying these are not traditional journalists, they're more like propagandists. Talk to me about the Mother Jones piece. Are we in fact the new state.
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Natalie Winters
Media, Ma'am, and I quote, this new crop of people who have been given extremely good access are not journalists in the traditional sense. They're closer to propagandists than journalists. Now, just for the audience, I want to give you a sense. I'm standing here surrounded by probably every legacy media outlet ever. So as I'm about to go on this rant, maybe just pray for me a little bit. But here's the thing. It's not just that these mainstream media outlets, these legacy media outlets might add, not just failing, but failed legacy media outlets have lied to the American people for so long, covered up Joe Biden's cognitive decline, covered up the invasion at the southern border, covered up what was going on in Ukraine, cover up, covered up the Hunter Biden hard drive. And intentionally, I might add, that not just a result of incompetence, but they colluded with the Biden White House. They never reported on it in terms of the fact checking the big tech axis of evil that they created to censor the American people about COVID 19, about vaccines, scenes, about election fraud. So spare me the idea that any of the members of this press corps who are standing right behind me right now give a damn about free speech, because they don't. They're the state media. They're the state propagandists that frankly the CCP would envy. All they do is carry water and carry the talking points, whether it be the intel community, the Biden regime, the Pentagon, the deep state, you name it. So spare me the performative activism. I think the White House needs to Strip these people of their seats. Right? They're the ones that get to choose the seating arrangements. They shouldn't even have seats to begin with. Fill it with new media. I'm so disgusted of these people and their sense of superiority.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie, hang on for one.
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Natalie Winters
Hopefully I make it right back.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Natalie Winters
Well, they actually are the state media in terms of the fact that they are on record with colluding not just with the Biden White House, but with their sort of big tech apparatus firms in terms of censoring the American people. Right. The content that they were censoring or pumping out to fact check. The people who watched this show were the articles that the journalists that are standing not too far away from me were actually writing. But, Steve, I sort of used to think of it as like a David and Goliath situation, except in reality, we were always sort of the Goliath. We just never knew it. But I think maybe a more acute or accurate representation is. Is. It's sort of a media Thucydides trap, right? In the sense that you have war room, the new media, these upstart outlets going against these legacy outlets. I'm sorry, by what metric are any of these outlets beating our show? And I don't just mean in terms of quantity of viewer, I mean in quality of viewer, too. Not just intellectually, but in terms of impact. Right. I always say, just ask Kevin McCarthy. But look, I think this is a wonderful first step because you can tell the sense, right, the questions that they ask President Trump, they're not to inform the American people, they're to act like activists. Just like these judges masquerade as activists, these journalists masquerade as activists, too. They're the tip of the spear when it comes to the resistance. And all that they're trying to do is set President Trump up to take the bait, to create this narrative. I overhear them talking, collaborating and colluding to come up with certain narratives. Right. That's their intention. Now, they also control the seating. Right. When you watch the briefings, the people who are sitting in those chairs, I would advocate, and I'm not just talking selfishly, but I would say you need to reorient who's sitting in those chairs as well. Right. Caroline Levitt said we want to hold outlets that lie accountable for their lies. Okay. Politico lied about the Hunter Biden hard drive. Why are they still sitting in one of the front, if not two front rows, being able to ask questions? Right. It's time for accountability. I know we aren't allowed to say the word retribution and saying that in earshot of any of these people. Who knows how that's going to end for me. But this is not retribution. It's justice for mainstream media outlets who are state propaganda that have lied to us for decades.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You just, I think you're trending already. You said strip them of their seats. Go back and make the case for that. I mean, it's pretty hardcore throwdown. What do you mean, strip them of their seats? I think that's going to go viral here. We're going to push it. What do you mean by that? And make your case. What's your, what's your justification of that?
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Natalie Winters
Well, through the paradigm that the White House step forth, they said we will hold outlets accountable for their lies. And if lying about the Gulf of Mexico, Gulf of America was enough to get the Associated Press ripped out of the Oval Office, then every single legacy media outlet in there, that is child's play compared to the lies that they have propagated against the American people. And I'm not just talking the marginal fact checks about the efficacy of, you know, Covid vaccines or election fraud. All of these outlets, even if you want to start the clock at 20:20, covered up the most massive national security threatening story that has probably ever happened in the history of this country, which is the fact that a man whose mental cognitive capacity was probably equivalent tantamount to that of a dead person was running this country. And I'm sorry, but all the journalists who are now melting down about the White House Correspondents association no longer having access. I missed any of you guys writing the story about Joe Biden being so out to lunch that nobody from his own team could even reach him. Moreover, these media outlets are not asking questions to inform the American people or help President Trump communicate his agenda in the same way on record they did with Joe Biden. All they are doing is acting like activists. For example, that chick who wrote the story saying that we are state funded media. I went through all of her old tweets. She was advocating saying that people should quote, steal from the Trump Hotel. She says all these things that she would love to watch someone physically assault Trump. Okay, these people are deranged Trump, anti Trump activists. And I don't know why we have to performatively treat them as journalists. They're not. Everything that they're doing in there is actual collusion. And I think that we can break it up and frankly it's not like we're saying they can't have access, but let's have a contest in terms of viewership and impact because we would trounce them every time. Last time I checked. Steve Joy Reid, can anyone watch her show tonight? I don't think so. RAV is only expanding all the outlets in here. Gateway pundit, Oann, Daily Wire, Daily Signal, they have too much money, too much viewership to know what to do with. So they have no reason for being there other than lying.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And the, in the, in the powers that all the, the platforms and streaming services, including rav, we're showing these. I mean we took it all a day, went to the Charlie Kirk show. As soon as we get the Oval Office executive orders, we'll be doing that. And I tell people the reason is you're seeing living history. I have never seen the mechanics of a White House actually on full global display. President Trump grinding through this. It's pretty amazing and a great civics lessons everybody. I think all the kids, homeschoolers ought to sit here and watch the president during the, during the workday at the White House. Before I let you go, I got to go back to Capitol Hill, hit rewind. And what you said about Marjorie Taylor Greene, this is so important about because we've been on this, we've been on the jihad against USAID for many years, but we're always blocked by the rhinos that would never let anybody get into the details. This was just not the Democrats. This is also the kind of neoliberal neocon rhinos that would not let us drill down on this, protected it. What in Marjorie Taylor Greene subcommittee, which was kind of contentious, the Democrats were giving as good as they got. But what does she say about, about the information we're going to find? It's not just about this year. They're going to go back and start drilling down on previous years. Maybe Even start talking about money laundering, Ma'am.
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Natalie Winters
Yeah. The so called fiscal hawk Rhinos who did what nothing about USAID or any of these bloated government agencies for decades. By the way, Steve, you know how it's a buried lead. The real tell Politico of the entire hearing, the little snippet that they summarized and put on their main story had to do with this whole idea that Marjorie Taylor Greene had announced that they wanted to sort of retroactively look into who is actually receiving these grants. In other words, sort of like the auditing of the Ukraine aid. Right. It's not just about oh, did the money actually make it to Ukraine? It's no, no, no. Who on the American side benefited from it? Who on the foreign side benefited from it too? But I think these people need to show us a paper trail of what they actually did with these sums of tens of millions of dollars. And that was what she was getting into with the hearing today. And that's how, you know, that's the real reason, right, that they're really melting down. You see it with the Covington and Burling getting their security clearances revoked. This is actual retribution. And the sort of, I think it presupposes the idea, right? We say we want transparency and accountability. They automatically make the connection that that's somehow retribution. That's sort of a tacit admission that everything that they've been engaging in, I'm going to use this word on the White House lawn very proudly, is a crime and was money laundering. Because it was. And it's not that hard to piece that together just looking around here in the city.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie Winters, what's your social media? Because we're going to push these clips out tonight. Where do people go? Ma'am?
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Natalie Winters
We always keep it spicy in the war on the White House lawn. Just again, for reference, the entire press corps is standing about 10ft away from me. Natalie Winters on all social media platforms. Have a good one.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Are we going to have to. Are we going to have to the Warren, get your own security guard up there on, on pebble beach.
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Natalie Winters
Won't be funded by usaid. Definitely.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie Winters, Be safe. You got a guest, Michael Obey in the war room. Thank you. Right there into the mic. Your assistant. We're going to be a little jam tonight, Pat. Philip Patrick is going to join us. Michael's going to hang around. You are a special advisor to Rick Grinnell on many things, but particularly your focus right now on the Kennedy Center.
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Elon Musk
Yeah, that's right. And you know, but you're a former.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Intelligence officer, former spook. I know you through Colonel Harvey, who's the best. So you're one and you're also one of those special projects guys from over at the Pentagon, right? Yeah.
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Elon Musk
Well, I learned everything I know from Colonel Harvey, you know, so pretty good mentor. Well, I started off my career in the Middle east, of course, in the media post 911 era and you know, got to see from the invasion of Iraq to the government formation there and then all the, you know, at first as a young 20 year old straight out of college.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Oh wow.
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Elon Musk
And you know, seeing this forever war, then deployed to Afghanistan, you know, we sort of saw that debacle, you know, from the ground up as well. So in a ways, front rows see, you know, on how not to conduct foreign policy.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I understand President Trump likes putting people in billets and slots that cause they're just excellent people and tough. How does a career intelligence officer who trained under Derek Harvey, who's the best, who's been in some pretty tough neighborhoods in Iraq and Afghanistan, how do you end up with Ambassador Grinnell as his special advisor on the cultural aspects of the or are you just going to get parachuted in like an OSS guy and clean up the mess over and clean up the mess over there?
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Elon Musk
I'm a huge World War II history fan, so I love the fact that we can talk about the OSS here in the war room. Look, you know, honestly, it all started in Michigan. You know, Ambassador Rick Grinnell, America's favorite ambassador, you know, took the lead in reaching out to the Arab American community, the Middle Eastern community in Michigan. Yes, everyone thought it was crazy to do it initially, but it was brilliant. First time Republican voters voting for President Trump because of Rick Grinnell's outreach to that community.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Experts hang on. Michael Obey is with us for the next, I don't know, 90 minutes. Philip Patrick's going to join us. Jeremy Brown, Special Forces is a free man as of tonight. His lawyer is going to be on. Hopefully we can get Jeremy Brown. Short commercial break we're going to return to the war room with our special guest, the special assistant to America's Ambassador, Rick Grenell. Short break. Back in the war in a moment. Indoctrinate the mind. While we may have won this election, the fight to restore our great nation is only beginning. Now is the time to take a stand and Patriot Mobile is leading the charge. Only America's Christian conservative wireless provider, Patriot Mobile offers a way to vote with your wallet without compromising on quality or convenience. Patriot Mobile isn't just about providing exceptional cell phone service. It's a call to action to defend our rights and our freedoms. With Patriot Mobile, you get outstanding nationwide coverage because they operate on all three major networks. If you have a cell phone service today, you can get cell phone service with Patriot Mobile with a coverage guarantee. But the difference is every dollar you spend supports the first and Second Amendments, the sanctity of life in our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their 100%. US based customer service support team will help you find the perfect plan. Now, right now, go to patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot. So call 972 Patriot or go to patriotmobile.com Bannon. You get a free month of service. That's a free month with promo code. Bannon, switch to Patriot Mobile today and defend freedom with every call and texts you make. Visit patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patreon. Remember, you get a free month of service. Do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, I get so carried away with the, with the Natalie Winters honorary. Who in the hell is Michael Ube? It's Ube Shah Bender.
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Elon Musk
Yes, sir.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Is that your nom du jour? I mean, you really are a spook. There's a spook here in the War Room. You were recruited right off a college campus. You spent your professional career there.
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Elon Musk
Actually, I was. And I went to Georgetown.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But I went to Georgetown also when it was a Catholic university, or barely a Catholic university. Left it there. Went to Georgetown, the School of Foreign Service.
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Elon Musk
School of Foreign Service. Proudly Arizona State for my undergrad.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, Arizona, so. Oh, yeah, I love Arizona State. Mike Rowe's a buddy of mine, Although huge left winger. We're going to come back to you in a second. Philip Patrick, Speaking of universities, a professor at the University of Arkansas talked to you about the end of the dollar Empire. And I'm really proud of this because as you know, your staff, yourself, yours truly here, Stephen K. Bannon and the War Room got together and worked on this for many years. I think we started three years ago at the end of the dollar empire. And what we want to do is make, really make capital markets and particularly debt deficits, all of it accessible to people that hadn't had a chance to go to college, but to make it at a level that was college level. And I guess the finance professor said, hey, we've read this thing and we would love to incorporate this into our curriculum.
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Philip Patrick
Sir, it's Absolutely correct. He made it, in fact, mandatory reading for his class and he asked if you and I would be happy to go and talk to his students and help educate. And quite frankly, I've had that feedback consistently from many different people talking about how educational, how informative, and specifically how it talks up to people, not down. So I would agree vehemently. And, and you know, it's getting the, the traction it deserves.
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Stephen K. Bannon
STEVE well, you ought to get to them. We want to definitely figure out how we can work that out and do other places too, because we're one of our big causes here is to make sure that working class and middle class folks that the finance system in our country, the political economy is understood along with the geopolitics of it. And this is why it's a good you can go to birchgold.com right now, Bannon, and get it all for free, all six installments, including the latest, which is modern monetary theory, which is a theory coming out of France that's going to blow your head up, folks. But hey, ideas have consequences. Two of the consequences we're seeing this is in this posse. We're going to have to make a decision here in the next week or so of where to put our effort on this, because the budget resolution last night, and we understand what President Trump is doing, he's trying to get some, some, some gap for these tax cuts. But I think the math shows, Philip, that ultimately we get up to 125 to maybe 135% of debt to total to GDP. And on the 14th, we're hurtling down like a train to the CR or to whatever's going to happen on midnight. What are your thoughts? You're pretty conservative when it comes to finance. And here we have this massive Keynesian stimulus that we still, I mean, President Trump mentioned they had want to get to a balanced budget. I want to use the Doge cuts, I want to use the cabinet restructurings and I want to use tariffs. I want to use all these different elements. But he wants, he aspires to a balanced budget, but we're a long way from there, particularly with the budget resolution we signed off last night, sir.
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Philip Patrick
Yeah, we are. And we knew this would be the biggest task from the beginning, is trying to close that gap. And as we've been seeing, Trump and the team are being more than inventive, right? They're trying to come up with ways. They're looking at external revenue, they're looking at doge, they're looking at tariffs. These are the decisions that need to be made, but it is a Herculean task to close that gap. And that's what I've always said. Look, we're going to continue to run deficits, but President Trump and the team need time to make fundamental changes to grow the economy out of it. And the big question is, will we get that time? We're going to continue to amass debt. What we're looking at with Doge, I think, is enough to mitigate the loss of revenue from the tax cuts, but I don't think it begins to close the gap. So it's going to be interesting to see how it shakes out. I think the one thing we can't have is sort of another continuing resolution. We can't lump in all this spending. We need to start working through. And like I said, closing the gap. But it is going to be a very, very difficult job. I don't think Doge alone can do it. I'm not sure tariffs will do it, but. So we're going to need time. That's the key. Good news is sort of borrowing rates on US government Treasuries are dropping in this climate, so it's taking a bit of the pressure off, but it's a sign that people are moving to risk off, which means there's big economic concerns. So a lot to work through. We trust the team to do it. But the question is, are they going to get the time? That's the big one.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Are those. Are those rates dropping? Because you saw the consumer confidence report that came out of the business conference had a pretty big drop. Also, Zero Hedge had a couple of great charts up about people's anticipation of inflation, where they thought inflation was going to go, not where it will go, but what they thought it was going to go. Is that making the business environment softer? Is that why rates are coming down a little bit? Is that the bond market thinks there may be a recession or mini recession, or at least maybe flat growth, Sir?
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Philip Patrick
Certainly. I mean, the consumer confidence report was a big one. It was the third consecutive month monthly decline, the largest since August of 2021. Worse, as you hinted, they found that inflation expectations have also risen sharply. And it's no surprise, right? Eggs have never been more expensive than they are today. Obviously, President Trump's been in power for marginally over a month, so I don't think he can take responsibility for that. But this is what we said at the beginning, inheriting an absolute nightmare, and this is the reality of it. You know, they were revising numbers down. There were arguments that we started an official recession in the last quarter of last year. But I certainly think we're going to have some things, whether it's a mini recession or a big one, to iron out this year. And that's when President Trump's job begins. But again, no surprise, this is the stuff we knew President Trump was going to have to work through, and they're beginning to do it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What do you think President Trump, I mean, he's got Elon Musk like an unguided missile, which I think is powerful in this regard, into the, into the administrative state, particularly in these audits, or finding out whether it's waste, fraud, abuse or what I call leakage. What do you believe has to happen to convince the capital markets that this administration is serious about making significant cuts to federal spending so that whether it's, whether it is external revenue coming from tariffs of this new regime, tariff regime which supposed to kick in next week on March 4, 25% to Mexico, 25% to Canada. This is massive given the size of their trade with them. What do you think he has to show in order to convince the capital markets he's serious about getting to a balanced budget? He said it twice today in the Cabinet meeting in front of the media. But what actions do you think they're going to have to see to make sure they see that this is serious, to get our deficits at least under a trillion dollars to start with and hopefully down to some sort of balanced budget?
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Philip Patrick
Well, I think we're seeing the actions, right? And like I said before, I think President Trump is showing how serious he is to sort of close that gap. But I think what we need to start seeing is results.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Right?
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Philip Patrick
There's a big difference, and I'm not talking about President Trump here, but you know, there's a big difference between hypothetical spending cuts and actual spending cuts. Right. It's easy to, to get everyone to agree to cut spending on something in the future, but to take dollars from, you know, any congressman's district, that becomes more and more difficult. We've seen this time and time and time again. And I think when we start to really push through with spending cuts, we're going to start to see resistance. So we need to just start making progress, start closing that gap. The more it closes, the more conf. Confidence in the US Will increase, confidence in the dollar will increase, and that will buy President Trump time. There's a lot of things being touted. I think Judy Shelton was proposing zero yield trust bonds that are convertible for gold. So there's some good ideas Obviously she's not part of the administration. She's being touted potentially for the Federal Reserve. There's a lot of good ideas coming out of the administration and potential appointees. But we need to start seeing results. Because if 12 months from now, US national debt at 40, 45, 12 months after, there's nothing the administration can say.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Gotta love Julie Shelton. Talk to people about, you know, gold as a hedge because we're gonna go through some turbulence, folks. Just the cutting of the budget is gonna cause turbulence. Msnbc, the New York Times, every day they're going crazy. Just somewhat Elon Musk is doing now. And that's not really fundamentally taking this thing apart brick by brick, program by program, billet by billet. Your thoughts about the driving factors of gold? Look, we've had a hell of a run with you guys over the last couple years. I think it was 1100, 1200 bucks. Now over 2,900. But it's just not the price of gold, it's the dynamics underneath it. What do you have to say about that?
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Philip Patrick
I mean, listen, gold is a reflection of the value of currency. That is why it is so important to get our fiscal house in order. Because if we don't, if global demand for our debt starts to wane, the sky is the limit for gold's price. Right? We talked about records in the past talking about gold at $10,000 an ounce. That's not a position we want to be in, but it is a realistic possibility if we don't get a handle on the problems. Gold is moving, right? It's hit its 10th all time high of 2025 so far. We've been averaging a new high every five days. This year. We're up 12% this year, 40% last year. I mean this is the climate that people buy precious metals. I have never seen stronger fundamentals. We talk about eggs being at the highest price ever in history. We talk about a world running away from the dollar. We're talking about the BRICs de dollarizing. We're talking about, I mean, a potential recession on the horizon. These are the underlying fundamentals that drive gold's price. And like I said, I've never seen them stronger than they are today. It's going to take President Trump and the team time to get through these problems. And precious metals, I think at least as a hedge is where we need to be. Look at central bank gold demand. It peaked. We had the biggest quarter in history in last quarter of 2024. It is not slowing down and we expect that to continue and we expect gold's price to continue to rise.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Any updates on the situation with the bank of England, sir?
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Philip Patrick
Look, it's still flooding out of the bank of England to New York. More than 20 million troy ounces, about $60 billion just since Trump's been in office. Again, It's a coincidence. And demand in the US still very, very high. We don't think the bank of England now will default. It's still delayed. It's about eight weeks. So technically still a technical default we think they're going to fulfill. Whether they beg, borrow or steal, they're going to fulfill because the alternative is a disaster. But it's just a reflection of demand increasing. And it is, it's increasing domestic domestically here in the United States, but it's everywhere. China's central banks, Russia's reserves right now are facing sky high domestic demand. Paper gold funds now have set their biggest net inflow since the pandemic. So demand right now is at all time highs. And like I say, we expect it to continue. Hopefully this stuff with the bank of England will iron out over the next few months and things will start to settle down a bit there.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Where do people go to get you a working relationship with birch gold is what folks need. So where they go to to contact you and your team? Phil?
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Philip Patrick
Very, very simple. Birchgold.com forward/bannon Again. Birchdo.com forward/bannon get end of the dollar empire series for sure. Read it, soak it in, learn it. We have a gold on how and why to invest gold, a guide on how and why to invest in gold under a Trump administration and just lots of good free information. So I encourage everyone out there get that information, get reading and they can reach me at Philip Patrick on get up.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Fantastic. Philip Patrick and I get, I can recommend to everybody go birchcold.com bandit. Enter the dollar empire. But make contact with Philip and his team. Philli, thank you so much. Taking time away from a trading day to join us from the West Coast. Short break back in. Health isn't just a personal issue. It's a family issue, a community issue. We're living in unpredictable times. Supply chains can break down, hospitals can get overwhelmed. And let's not even start on the natural disasters. These aren't hypotheticals. They're happening. You see it here in the war room and we all know it. The question is simply, are you ready? That's where Jace comes in. This isn't just a kit. This is a Jace case. It's a lifeline. It's a personal Supply of prescribed emergency medications that puts the power back in your hands. Whether it's an unexpected illness or a global disruption of supply chains, you can act fast and protect yourself and your loved ones. This February, show them you care in a way that really matters. Be prepared. Get the Jace case today so you'll have the right meds on hand the moment you need them. Visit jacemedical.com and use the code Bannon B A N N O N at checkout for a discount on your order. That's jacemedical.com promo code Bannon. Get the Jace case and do it today. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. You know, President Trump has said he's, he's going to go to Fort Knox. He's going to take Elon with him. You know, Bessant and the treasury guy say, hey, look, every year I think they do a visual count in the ig. I mean, there's never been a question. There's been rumors. And of course they fought having audits, which is kind of odd, like the Fed has, which is kind of odd. At least formal audits, technical audits. President Trump said he's going to Fort Knox with Elon. He just wants to eyeball the gold. So we'll keep you up to date on that. But Philip, Patrick and the team, you can't do better. Particularly now. Every five days is hitting another high. Remember, it was, you know, I think 11, 1200 bucks when we first parted with Birch Gold. The key is to understand the underlying dynamics. That's everything we try to do here. Make sure that you understand or have access to the information about underlying dynamics. We're not trying to give you a fish. We're trying to teach you how to fish. Right? Nothing taxes. They're looking for tax revenue. We're talking about deficits. We're talking about money, capital markets. These massive, the massive debts. We have 36, 37 trillion debt. Adding another trillion dollars every hundred days. Every day, every month now is another record on deficits in the country just out of control. The IRS is going to get their money. If you owe them or they think you owe them, more importantly, they're going to come and get it. Go to taxnetworkusa.com Bannon to get a free consultation. You get that letter from the IRS, don't call them right away. Call Tax Network, 800-958-1000. Talk to an expert, free consultation. They'll tell you if they can help or not. If they can help, you make a decision of signing them up. If they can't then you call the IRS and get into it. Do not let that letter sit there. It's like a cancer that's metastasizing. Fees, penalties, interest. Can't wish it away. It's the irs. Text Network usa. Do it today. UBE Shah Bender. I've got it right now. Secret freaking agent. So something. So tell me, you met Grinnell about Michigan Because Grinnell had the brilliant idea. Because Ambassador Grinnell knows the world. He says, hey, there's a lot of great Muslim folks up there. And particularly, you know, the Moms for Liberty would go up there and do town halls. Very conservative in meeting him. Why was it you volunteered for the Kennedy Center? Because Kennedy center is a complicated cultural. It's the Deep States High church here in D.C. why would you volunteer for that?
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Elon Musk
Well, I would go to the ends of the earth for America's ambassador, Rick Grinnell, you know, and what he's trying to do here is beautiful. Okay? This is the cause.
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Stephen K. Bannon
He didn't volunteer for this either. Trump tapped. That's right. He's out. He's special envoy. He's trying to fix Louisiana. He's got. He's working on 10 things for Trump. Trump, he's a safe pair of hands. So Trump said, this is a complicated one. I want you. And he came immediately to you.
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Elon Musk
Yeah, that's right. I mean, look, that just shows you how much of a priority it is, right, for, you know, Trump to put, you know, Ambassador Grenell on this project. And the Kennedy center, the cultural heart of the United States, it's been left pretty much, you know, bankrupt. I mean, there's so the. There's just so much that needs to be rebuilt.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I heard they haven't done a lot of capital expenditures for maintenance or. That's right, because they've had a tough time. They put money into some of these WOKE programs, but haven't really kept the space off, beautiful architectural space until you start looking and seeing the chip paint. I can confirm that.
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Elon Musk
I can confirm that. So much water damage. I mean, this should be the representation of American glory to the whole world. To the whole country. You know, you've got these shows where people from all over the world come. You got programs.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Shen Yun is there tonight.
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Elon Musk
I'm going to go see that tomorrow. Highly recommend all your viewers out there.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You know, Shenyan is magnificent. I'll hook you with the guys. Put it on. That's. We are supposed to go, but I've got to. I'm leaving to go to Texas for a speech. I've Just been jammed. But. And so you've actually done. You're going to hang in the next hour with us, right? You've actually gone and done at least a first cut inspection over there just to check it out.
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Elon Musk
Yeah, that's right. I mean, so much needs to be rebuilt. So much needs to be rebuilt from the carpet to the walls.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You're talking, you're talking. See Uber. You're talking Trump's language. Yeah, I mean, that's him. He's doing. He does a visual, if anybody wants to have a great day is tag along with President Trump when he goes through one of his properties. I mean, he's got guys there, Right. Notes down. He's got an eagle eye for detail. That's why his properties look so good.
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Elon Musk
Yeah, that's right. So that, that. So he's a tough boss. So we know we can't just get.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Away with anything because he's going to walk over and check it out.
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Elon Musk
Yeah. And he's going to touch his.
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Stephen K. Bannon
He's going to say, hey, ube, come over here, man. What is this? And he's going to watch the cost. Hang on for a second. Ube. Shawn Bender, former. Were you dia.
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Elon Musk
Dia.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, my God. Hardest of the hard. That's what Mike Flynn used to run.
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Elon Musk
Yep.
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Stephen K. Bannon
When I was in the Pentagon as a junior officer, DIA was like the dark arts, analytics and some pretty tough hombres. And Mike Flynn ran it under Obama. That's where they had falling out. Do I have Mike Lindell? Speaking of a tough hombre. Mike Lindell, brother, talk to me.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I tell you, Mike, I want to have you hang over if you can for the, for the next hour. I, I want to start the show. I want to talk to you about, I want to talk, I want the audience to know about Keith Ellison and what they're doing to you. We've also got Trent Evans, Jeremy Brown, Special forces let go today, free from prison. And of course, UBE is going to stay with us about the Ambassador Grinnell and ube's plan to turn this Kennedy center around under the guidance of President Trump. Short commercial break. We leave you with the right stuff. We're going to return Mike Lindell, Travis Ennis, ube, Shawn Bender. Next in the War Room. Drew risk high that an IRS agent is about to show up at your home over unpaid taxes or unfiled returns or that the IRS is about to freeze your bank accounts. Look, understanding your IRS risk level helps you decide how quickly you need to act. Take my advice and find out. Call the experts at Tax Network USA and share your situation. They'll advise if they believe your risk level is high, moderate or low. This is a free service for my audience at the War room and it's 100% confidential. And if your risk is high and you want to resolve your IRS problems, Tax Network USA will do it. Nobody knows the IRS better. In fact, Tax Network USA has a preferred direct line so they know which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid. And baby, this is critical. They've resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. So whether you owe $10,000 or 10 million, their genius strategies are designed to quickly settle your tax problems. Discovery Discovering your current IRS risk is fast, free and confidential, and it's a smart first step in solving your tax problems. Don't make the call the IRS until you talk to the Tax Network people. This is absolutely critical. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000, that's 1-800-958-10000 or visit taxnetworkusa.com Bannon remember the number 1-800-958- 1000 do it today Human.
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