
Episode 4306: War On The Cartel; Cutting Off American Spending Abroad ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you so much.
Brian Glenn
Hello.
Carl Rove
It's very good to see you.
Todd Benzman
How are you?
Donald Trump
Thank you very much.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you so much. Happy to see you. We know each other. It's not the first meeting. And I'm very proud that Ukraine has such big strategic, even not partner, not only partner, friend like the United States. So we are very thankful for this. We're here today as a show of support. Show of support. We have committee chairs. We have the President.
J.D. Vance
Mr. President, I've got two questions for you. You think ultimately your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that led this country into another war and ended foreign wars? And I've got a question.
Donald Trump
I hope it will. I mean, I hope I'm going to be remembered as a peacemaker. This is, this would be a great thing if we could do this. I'm doing this to save lives more than anything else. Second is to save a lot of money. But I consider that to be far less important. So I hope I'm going to thank you, Brian, for that question. It was a nice question. I hope I'll be known and recognized as a peacemaker. This would be a great thing to solve. This is a very dangerous situation. You know, this could lead to a third world war. This is. This was headed in the wrong direction. If this allowed election, we're lost. If we didn't win this election and by the way, we won it by a lot. That was a mandate. We won every swing state. We won the popular vote by millions and millions of votes. We won everything. The districts. You look at the areas of red. Take a look at a map. This was a big mandate. And this was one of the things I said. We're going to get this thing settled. If we didn't win, I think this would have. This could have very well ended up in a third world war and that would not. That would not have been a good situation.
Stephen K. Bannon
A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. God bless.
Donald Trump
You don't know that.
Stephen K. Bannon
God bless.
Donald Trump
God bless you guys. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm not telling you because you're in.
Donald Trump
No position to dictate that. Remember this, you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to Feel very good, feel influence. We're going to feel very good and very strong.
Stephen K. Bannon
You will feel influence.
Donald Trump
You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed to be in a bad position. And he happens to be right about.
Stephen K. Bannon
From the very beginning of the war.
Donald Trump
You'Re not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having cards right now, you don't miss the president. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War Three. You're gambling with World War Three. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country that you spent far more than a lot of people said.
Hugh Hewitt
So that was then and now. This is today.
Todd Benzman
Carl, what was your read on what you watched on TV for the past 30 minutes?
Carl Rove
Well, this is why diplomacy should never be conducted in public, I'm confident. And we now know that, for example, In World War II, there were heated disagreements between Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Stalin and Winston Churchill, but we didn't see them broadcast on tv. And we, what we saw were statements that came out of these big conferences in which the Allies made an effort to move forward together. It is hard to get. It is going to be incredibly hard to walk back from the kind of animosity that we saw in that room today and to walk back some of those statements. It could have been done if it had not been, if cameras had not been running. But the only winner out of today is Vladimir Putin. This is a mistake to have it broadcast. It was a mistake for Zelensky to get his, get his dander up. And it was a mistake for the president and the vice president to be so public in their, in their comments. This was, this, this was not the moment that should have been televised. They should have had those conversations out of camera sight. And I'm confident that then they would have been able to find a way to move forward. But it's really hard when you've had the kind of coverage of this moment that we've now had.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. And we're looking live for the first time in our history, the first time we had the President of France and we had the prime minister of the United Kingdom within 72 hours of each other. And what are they doing? They're behind closed doors and they're talking about, you know, oh, we want to put up troops, we're going to put up money. They have put up no money and they've put up no troops, and they're not going to they want an American security guarantee and they want American money. We don't have the money and we don't have the troops and we have no interest in Ukraine and two Slavic entities going at each other. We have, we have, what we're concerned about is the southern border of the state of Texas. Hell, they got the CIA. Now all the assets are coming back for Ukraine. They're doing flights over Mexico. President Trump's getting ready for. He's trying to stop the kinetic part of the third World war that's happened in the Eurasian landmass, right in the Middle east and in Ukraine. But he's getting ready to start the kinetic part of the war against the cartels. They know that, right? We got to cut off their banking, we got to cut off their finance. We got to get down there, we got to do a paramilitary operation, got to tell Mexico, step aside because we're going to take them all out and we're going to take them out now.
Ben Shapiro
Let's be clear here. There is a lot, a lot, so much to criticize about the past 80 years of American foreign policy. I've been doing a lot of that criticizing myself for most of my time as a professional journalist, commentator. What Donald Trump is building in its wake right now in front of all of us with these actions. He's doing things, it's not just words. Where the United States partners itself with authoritarian regimes, sides of Vladimir Putin against democratic allies is undoubtedly worse than what we had before. This will have massive consequences for global politics for decades to come. The American European alliance is effectively over the north star of the post war order. Where the United States will strongest alliances are with fellow democracies over authoritarian regimes has ended 80 years of diplomacy born of ashes and 35 million dead undone by one, one and a half men today. I think it makes America weaker, definitely more vulnerable. It is going to make the world more dangerous as a result. No question.
Brian Glenn
This certainly is a day that will live in infamy in the annals of US and international diplomatic history, because it is quite clear that we are at an inflection point in terms of the US Engagement on the world stage. First of all, I think the Ukrainians should feel quite proud tonight that they have as their president one of what I think is one of the most principled and finest statesmen of the 21st century. He has shown tremendous discouraged over the last three years and continue to show that courage in the Oval Office today. At the same time, I think the Ukrainians should be worried, indeed the Europeans should be worried. Because it is quite evident that the Trump administration is going to be selling out to the Russians on the Ukraine issue. It was patently obvious by the things that Donald Trump and J.D. vance were saying and what the Republican supporters of theirs and Congress are saying. But also, I have long been worried about the safety and security of President Zelensky. The Russians have tried to kill him a number of times over the years, and only with the support of Western intelligence, he's been able to avoid those assassination attempts. But now I think it's quite clear to folks that President Zelensky is going to remain a very principled leader. And if Donald Trump and J.D. vance and Putin believe that they're going to intimidate and bully and threaten President Zelensky to join the club of corrupt and unprincipled leaders, they will literally need to wait until hell freezes over. Twice. Because this is a man who is committed to the survival of his country and to the memory of those hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians who have given their lives and been injured in this brutal assault and invasion that Russia engineered over three years ago. So again, it's disappointing that we weren't able to reach some type of accommodation in the overlaps today, but treating a guest in the Oval Office that way. Ben and I have been in the Oval Office many times and it's a, it's a very solemn place. And to hear Donald Trump and J.D. vance again distort history, distort the facts and reality and to berate President Zelensky the way they did, I think again, it's appalling.
Hugh Hewitt
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're just not going to free shot.
Hugh Hewitt
All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
Stephen K. Bannon
I know you try to do everything.
Hugh Hewitt
In the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Donald Trump
It's going to happen.
Stephen K. Bannon
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Saturday the 1st of March, year of our Lord 2025. We are live at the Patriot Mobile studio in, in I guess North Texas in Grapevine, Texas. I want to thank the Patriot Mobile guys. We have A quite explosive show. Coming off the speech last night, I gave to the Tarrant County Republican Club. A bunch of great patriots, of course. Todd Benson's with you. Todd came to the speech last night. We're gonna talk a lot about the southern border right there. One of the questions Warren posse is already asking, and I don't have a good answer for it. Why is Brennan not already charged and in jail? Didn't we strip him of his security clearances or strip him of his pension? That's one of the most evil demons the world. You saw right there where the sides are lining up. And I've said from the beginning, Zelensky's a pimp. He's corrupt, he's a scumbag. Right? He's a punk. And he showed what a punk he was yesterday. President Trump, Brian Glenn's question. Do you consider yourself a peacemaker? He says, yes, I do consider. I want to be remembered as a peacemaker. I'm trying to make peace here. President Trump was using that economic deal to lay a predicate to get to a cease fire and a. An overall rapprochement with Russia and, of course, peace in Ukraine, because the killing and slaughter in Ukraine deeply affects the president. And I do not need to remind this audience that according to the Sermon on the Mountain, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the children of God. I want to go now to South Florida. Our own Brian Glenn, who asked that great question. Brian, we saw you yesterday in the tarmac. You were on Air Force One. You're now down near where the President is right now. Put us in the room yesterday. That question, very powerful. You laid it out about to President Trump about what he's trying to accomplish yesterday. Sir.
J.D. Vance
Yeah. Good morning, everybody. That question came about eight minutes into the press conference. And I, I wanted to get the President's thought on his legacy because he had said before during rallies that it's very important for him to establish peace between these two countries, and he would like to be known as the peacemaker. So I wanted to say, hey, what's your thoughts on your legacy not only being the peacemaker, but then being someone who didn't additionally include the US in any kind of foreign war? Thought it was a great question. He looked over at me, answered it, gave me credit, thanked me for asking it, and then, well, then, you know, of course we know what the second question was. And I said that question a little bit later in that press conference, Steve, because I felt the tension building, not only with the answers that Zelensky was giving. But then his mannerisms, this tone, talking over the President. And you and I talked about this yesterday. That is absolutely something you do not do. And on your cold open there talk about the sanctity of the Oval Office and, and all of the, you know, the, the decorum that's in there, what we saw yesterday and the blatant disrespect for this country that Zelinsky had towards Americans, now that is something that President Trump stood up against.
Stephen K. Bannon
Brian, you hang on right there. We're going to come back to you. Todd Benson is in the studio with me. Brian Glenn is on location. Here's the reason and that's why we started with the clip. And I want to thank my team for finding that the clip, the Hay Adams Hotel, the historic Hay Adams Hotel, right across Lafayette Square from the White House. Zelensky went there before and you saw all those senators. Every one of those people should be primaried. They're the ones that convinced Zelensky he had cards and they're the ones that convinced him he should go to the White House and he should throw down with the president, start talking about security guarantees. Zelensky dismissed, really this very charitable philanthropic economic deal that Scott Bessant and the President worked out, which, as you know, in the war on posse, we adamantly oppose. But hey, if the president feels he needs that to get his peace deal, so be it. You saw Zelinsky an ingrate, right? A total, complete ingrate. Not just about saying thank you. That's not. American people don't need a thanks. We don't need somebody to say thank you. We don't need that. We're big boys and girls. What we do need is the Europeans. They talk a lot of smack. We need the Europeans to step up. No American money, no American arms, no American security guarantee. No backstop. That's the buzzword. No backstop. It's not going to happen today. We're going to be on fire. We're in Tarrant County, Texas, the epicenter of a political revolution in the most MAGA of all the states, the great state of Texas. We're going to talk about the cartels. We're going to talk about Texas politics. We're gonna talk geopolitics. All next. On a Saturday.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Host, Stephen K. Ban. If you heard the mainstream media yesterday talking about, you know, talking about things as a big surprise to them that we talk about here every day in the world, and particularly about the beginning of the kinetic part, and the one thing I disagree a little bit with President Trump is that he says he's trying to avert World War Three. I keep reminding him we're in World War three. We're in the Connecticut part. What you've seen in Ukraine, and this is why President Trump is a peacemaker. He's trying to stop the killing in the Middle East. He's trying to stop the slaughter in Ukraine, what you're seeing in Ukraine today. And Karl Rove should learn some history here. We are much farther after 1939, the German invasion of Poland. Right. If you take the German invasion of Poland, then you take the whole sweep across France later in I guess, May of 1940. If you take everything that happened in North Africa up to that time, you take the blitz all the way up to June of 41 when the Germans then Operation Barbarossa went into Russia. Up until that time, and people say, Gosh, we were two years into World War II. You even throw some of Manchuria and what the Chinese were doing and what the Japanese are doing in China, you haven't it pales in comparison to the killing and slaughter that's gone on the million Ukrainians dead or wounded, the five or six hundred thousand Russian troops dead or wounded and the total devastation. So and by the way, for Karl Rove, in fact, I'll play that later because I want to say, Karl Rove, if we had in World War II, if we'd had What President Trump's doing, which is inviting people in the nation in to see how it's done and what's happening and what these people are really like, we wouldn't have had a Yalta. The people in Eastern Europe wouldn't been enslaved by, by the Bolsheviks and by Stalin for what, 50 or 60 or 70 years. Right. We wouldn't have given up China to the Chinese Communist Party. Call Rove. If you had opened it up, Karl Rove, we wouldn't have the dead and wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan that you as a war criminal, because you're a war criminal. The lies you told the American people about the Iraq war, about the weapons of mass destruction behind closed doors. If Bush had had the stones and the brains and the guts and the determination to have the American people in the room, put them in the room, we would avoided all that because the American people said, we're not going to do that. You don't have any evidence. We're not going to do that. Your war of choice. And you are one of the biggest planners and plotters of that. The blood's on your hands. We don't need to see for you anymore. And it's revolting, revolting to me that Fox News, the Murdochs continue to put up guys like Karl Rove to sit there and undercut the president. If you watch Fox News, you're supporting the enemy, okay? Cuz all they do all day long is go after President Trump. They give enough happy talk so they can. But you look at the people they put up there and particularly Karl Rove, and particularly after yesterday, and you have the gall, you have the gall to sit there and say, oh, this is why diplomacy should have been behind closed doors. Is that why we got the dead and wounded in Iraq? Is that why we got the dead and wounded in Afghanistan? Just leave aside the $9 trillion that we spent over there, we burned over there, that's now in the national debt, sir. Because behind closed doors, that idiot that you had, Bush 43, that moron. Because if you open the doors up, we have seen what an idiot it is. We've seen the lies you were told, you were telling, and we wouldn't have done it. The American people say, we're not going to do that. That's the courage of Donald Trump. He's got the courage to say, hey, here's what it is. I don't care if it's France, I don't care if it's England, I don't care if it's Ukraine. You're going to see it made. And that's what makes us so compelling. And thank God in heaven we have people like Brian Glenn, a grown man that can sit there and ask a meaningful question and get a response out of President Trump. Right. We hope that also Natalie and our other people start getting the access there. But, Brian, you're getting the access because the questions you ask, sir, and they're good questions. And President Trump then gives a heartfelt, meaningful answer, and that drives a conversation for instead this ridiculous snark he normally gets asked. Brian Glenn, your thoughts?
J.D. Vance
Yeah, you're right. That was the most important question in that room. And that was the main goal in that room was to get peace, stop the bloodshed on both sides. And of course, you know, Zelensky got defensive when he said, people are dying. And then Zelensky pivoted to say, well, Russia invaded Ukraine, whatever. The big picture here is peace, and that's what Trump wants to achieve. And I love the transparency that President Trump is doing right now, Steve. And you laid that out. He is bringing the people into the Oval Office for some of the highest conversations that can be held and letting the people see it play out. He even said it out loud. I'm letting the American people see this. This is good television. Because they needed to see how those discussions went down. If there was no media and no access in that room, we would have to go for whatever, you know, embedded press had to say about it. I'm glad. I'm very thankful that I was in that room and I had the opportunity to ask that question about being the peacemaker.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, it was. It was incredible. Okay, thank you, peacemaker. Let's talk about the southern border, the one that's just. Hang on, Bern, we'll come back to you. Talk to me about the southern border and what's happening now, because here's the border. You talk about vital national security interests because there's security interest all over. You've got a triage is you got to rank, order them. The vital national security interest is not on the Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine, which, oh, by the way, is where all the rare earths are. Right. Just a note of why I never liked the economic deal in the first place. And I admire Scott Bessant. I admire President Trump for trying to be peacemakers. As the Sermon on the Mount tells us, blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God. That's what President Trump's doing. And President Trump's taking political risks. He knows people that support him and love him to his right. Hate this deal, hate anything to do with Ukraine. Want him to walk away. And he's prepared to say, hey, you got to have my back. Give me, give me the, give me the Runway to do this. I will bring peace. That's a leader, that's a world leader, that's a peacemaker. And what do they do on Fox News other place? They spit in his face. That's exactly what they're doing. Call Rove, spit in his face. On national tv, where President Trump is focused on the real war. We got the cartel war. Todd Bensman.
Todd Benzman
Right. Well, first of all, remember that during the campaign we were always hearing about, oh, we have to have this Senate bill that Trump killed in order to shut the border down. The first thing I'm going to do, this is huge.
Stephen K. Bannon
You can't shut the border. Biden and Kamala Harris, you can't shut the border because the bill didn't pass. And all these right wingers and Trump killed the bill.
Todd Benzman
Everybody bought into that. Oh, the Senate bill, the Senate bill. Got to have the Senate bill. And then before that, it was root causes we've got to address. We got to do a Marshall Plan in Central America in order to stop the causes of immigration with an E to our border. We need comprehensive immigration reform. It's going to be this big, complex thing. It's also complicated. It's going to take so much time. In the meantime, we've got to let people in. That border was shut down in one hour on Inauguration Day. We always knew that there were just a couple of buttons to push. Trump knew there were a couple of buttons to push.
Stephen K. Bannon
You've said this for years.
Todd Benzman
I've said it for years.
Stephen K. Bannon
And you've been, and you've been proved right. He did a couple of executive orders, send some resources down there.
Todd Benzman
It's closed over and done. I'm declaring it. The great mass migration crisis is over. We still have a massive cleanup job on the interior of the country. You're seeing Tom Homan go after that. It's going to take years to get that done, to undo the mass immigration, the damage of all these millions of people inside the country. And I'll also point out that, that the border may be closed, 200, 300 a day. Coming across, border length right now. But that is not guaranteed. All the troops, the emergency declaration, everything that the Trump administration is doing to keep that border sealed has to continue. As you said last night at this speech, very rousing speech. All gas, no brakes. All gas, all gas, no brakes. Very Rousing.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, everything that the audience I think is took a vote and they're all for the all gas, no brakes. Right. They support that.
Todd Benzman
Right. Anyway, yeah. I mean that was a carnivorous crowd for you last night. They were on their feet.
Stephen K. Bannon
Carnivores.
Todd Benzman
Absolutely. Now the Trump administration also as we know is turning its attention to a.
Stephen K. Bannon
So number one, we've effectively sealed the border. Much more has to be done wall all that. But right now they're trickling in CBS News. By the way, we have up on the news side of Grayson Moe are going to put out even CBS News reporting it's turned to just a bear trap.
Todd Benzman
Right. It's reverse migration. Now they're moving. Thousands of people are fleeing from Mexico and the Trump border to go back home, by the way to home countries that they said I have to have asylum from because the persecution is unbearable. They're all now returning to those homes. Yeah. So the whole thing is economics.
Stephen K. Bannon
They were coming up for now they understand you're saying in northern Mexico knowing they're not going to get across, they're.
Todd Benzman
Going back, they're leaving. And the price of by the way.
Stephen K. Bannon
Which Todd Bensman also said for years in the show would happen, as soon as you have real people and adults that were that will seal the border, they'll all go home.
Todd Benzman
It took, it took three things. Expulsion, detention, interior deportation. That's it. Just do the law.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, okay, before we talk about cartels, talk to me about deportation. I think the total number is 50,000. We still have up to I think a million criminals. They've been fighting that we haven't started the mass deportation. They're telling us in the reconciliation bill it's $175 billion which is mind boggling. But the deportations part, we have hit a little bit of a hiccup. You think that's because of they're fighting us on the sanctuary cities or the jails are not letting our people in or is it we just don't have the logistics change for Tom Homan to ramp up.
Todd Benzman
It's a few things. First of all, the 175 billion is about half what we've given to Ukraine.
Stephen K. Bannon
For military amen or what we pay or what we pay for the illegals are going to stay here anyway. Right. You save it over time. It's just the number is mind blowing. Right.
Todd Benzman
It's a big number. They may need even more. But as Homan said, you know, what's the price of national security? What do you what kind of a price do you put on that our national security. But, but getting to the deportation program. Yeah, they, they had a big target list built up before during the transition about who they were going to go after. Criminal aliens. They, they hit those, they cleared the targets out and now they're a little bit slower because they've got a rebuild target list. They need intel, they need more ICE agents, they need detention space.
Stephen K. Bannon
Have we gotten though out of is your knowledge that we've got getting everybody out of that's either in state or federal custody now that's a foreign national out of a prison or jail.
Todd Benzman
Well, there are people still serving their, their prison term. So the point is, is that you know, you have to know when they're about to be released so that you can be in the lobby when they get, when they get.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Brian Glenn is going to lose his position as they move to the president. Brian, I have to mention because of your courage and in what you did yesterday, you've gotten from around the world and particularly from certain places. I think on the Eastern European side of the Eurasian landmass and maybe even farther in a bunch of very tough messages, maybe some called death threats, a lot of threats. This audience wants to know. We know you're a tough guy. You would never, you're a true honey badger. So you would never bring this up. So I felt it was necessary to bring it up, sir.
J.D. Vance
Well, I certainly appreciate that, Steve. And I'm by no means out here wanting anyone to feel sorry for me for getting this hate, but it just shows the level of visceral that the left and people, you know, around the world have, not only for this issue, but for President Trump. And I have gotten messages in my inboxes I would probably say right now close to 5,000 or more. And a lot of it is in languages I can't understand. But I know one thing. They don't like me. They don't like Trump, they don't like America.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
J.D. Vance
And they probably wish that you and I didn't exist. But we're not going to stop.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hey, here, here's, let's, here's a message for all those folks because it's happened to me. For here's the message. We don't give two Fs, okay? We don't bring it. Bring the biggest heat you got, because this is the United States of America. And here's another thing. We're cutting off all the money. We're cutting no soldiers. Not one American boy or girl going to go over and defend that crap. Zelinsky is a crook. People around him are crooks. Brennan ought to be. Brennan ought to be in prison right now. Cash. Pam Bondi, let's get on top of a man. What the hell's going on? Why is Brennan not charged already? Why is not stripped of everything? And msmec, if you're going to have, if you're going to have criminals like that on, you have traitors like that on, I don't know, maybe somebody will review that. It's time we get tough with these people. These people trying to destroy this country and they're trying to take out everybody that stands up for this country or President Trump. This is what people don't understand, the hate that comes from President Trump. And hey, when he goes down, starts taking out those cartels, you wait, it's going to get so over the top. People have no earthy idea what's going to happen. Brian Glenn, the rest of the day, what are you going to be doing? You're earning your paycheck today. You're going to be Sitting back and taking all the glory for your questions yesterday.
J.D. Vance
Yeah, well, we're hoping we get a few minutes with the president when he wraps up from playing golf. Just down the street from where we're at right here. We'll make it back over to Mar a Lago later this afternoon. There is an event tonight. Not sure if we're able to go in there, but if we do, you can guarantee we're going to have it right here on Real America's Voice. Steve, as always, it's a pleasure to come on the War Room. Thanks for what you're doing there in Texas. Love Tarrant County. I have a home in Collin County. Great place there in North Texas. Good people, good Republicans. We got to keep it that way. So thanks for all you're doing up there. For the folks in Tarrant County.
Stephen K. Bannon
Your social media. Brian, how do people follow you during the day, sir?
J.D. Vance
Oh, okay. You can follow me at Brian Glenn TV on X& Instagram at Brian on True Social. I do post up the best hate comments that I'm getting in a comical way on my Instagram stories. It's gotten tens of thousands of views on it. Go check it out because I'm making fun of them. And you got to come bring the heat if you're gonna come after me. You got to bring the heat. Don't give me the same old bullet points. I know I got a big forehead. I know I got beady eyes. I know I'm losing my hair. Don't worry about that kind of stuff. I want you to bring the heat and I'll post you up.
Stephen K. Bannon
Got it all right here, baby brother. You've got it right there. You can't hear Brian Glaze a honey badger. He don't give two F's. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
J.D. Vance
Thick skin. Yeah, thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
How, how, how ugly are things going to get when President Trump goes over these, these cartels just not going to roll over what's going to happen.
Todd Benzman
No. Mexican cartels are notorious for taking the offense really often for no reason whatsoever. Absolutely bloody.
Stephen K. Bannon
You got two heads. Oscar Blue Ramirez telling Tijuana this thing just started. Their two heads cut off. They throw them in the streets. That's a signal, right? That's cartels.
Todd Benzman
Yeah. And you know, keep in mind that the Mexican cartels right now are getting boxed into a corner by Donald Trump. A you got the foreign terrorist organization designation which is going to muck them up all over the world. They're in 50 states and they've got money moving all around and operations all around. And the FTO designation can disrupt and destroy a lot of that. Anybody caught banking them or moving their money or laundering with them or moving their drugs or Crips and Bloods even maybe could be charged with material support for terrorism. That is a massive game saying, since.
Stephen K. Bannon
You designated a terrorist organization. This is why I try to get the Muslim Brotherhood as a terror. Once you have that, you have so many tools, financially and economically, to choke them down.
Todd Benzman
Right, Absolutely. This is new authorities. Number two, they're setting the table in Mexico. The Trump administration.
Stephen K. Bannon
What do you mean by that?
Todd Benzman
Pulling CIA in from.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, you're saying you're pre positioning or pre positioning assets coming back from Ukraine right now.
Todd Benzman
That's right.
Stephen K. Bannon
That are working down there. Plus talk about the flights and the targeting flights.
Todd Benzman
Yeah, this is, this is absolutely, you know, telling. Indicating something big is happening. Extreme number of spy flights. We've always had a few spy flights here and there, but nothing like what we're seeing now off the coast. Some of it's authorized by Mexico, some of it's just along our borders. There's drones, there are manned spy aircraft, you know, targeting. Now, one of the Mexican officials, I think the interior Minister just went on the record yesterday morning saying that one of those spy flights is responsible for the targeting and arrest of two top Sinaloa cartel chiefs down there. Already they're already acknowledging this is different.
Stephen K. Bannon
Than the 29 that got shipped up, which is huge.
Todd Benzman
This is different.
Stephen K. Bannon
Extradited to the United States.
Todd Benzman
Yeah, that's another novel. The 29 that they have shipped into the United States. Many of them are founding fathers.
Brian Glenn
Yes.
Todd Benzman
The cartels, they've been in luxury prisons running all operations on the ground. And the fact that they scooped up these particular. They're mass murderers, the capos.
Stephen K. Bannon
They're the capos of the other cartels and they're mass murderers.
Todd Benzman
They're human rights violations violators to the nth degree with thousands.
Stephen K. Bannon
But you're, but you're saying with those guys, as bad as they are, they've already targeted the rounding up guys, now the Mexican authorities.
Todd Benzman
Right. And all of this, you have to remember the context for this is Donald Trump's trade tariff threat big time. That's supposed to be Tuesday.
Stephen K. Bannon
25% is because Mexico's finished if that happens.
J.D. Vance
Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
And.
Todd Benzman
Yeah, right. Well, they're going to recession pretty quickly and nobody wants that. And one thing that we have to remember about those, those Claudia Sheinbaum had to bring scalps to the Oval. Had to bring them. They brought scouts, big scalps that's leadership.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's Trump's leadership right there. And also being a deal guy, understand where the leverage points is. We're going to use economic warfare until you start acting as an ally and not as actually working on their side. This is what Oscar Blue Ramirez said. He shattered kind of the political class that's been working with the cartels.
Todd Benzman
Well, I mean, let me get to that real quickly because it's related to the CIA move. In my, in my opinion, I'm not. I don't have any special sourcing in the agency.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, he does, but he has to deny it. But keep going.
Todd Benzman
So CIA is moving in because they're going to be doing covert ops all over Mexico. They're going to be doing counter narcotics operations. They're going to.
Stephen K. Bannon
What does that mean?
Todd Benzman
Informants. That was going to be infiltrating informants everywhere. They're going to be pulling intel. And it's my belief we did this.
Stephen K. Bannon
In Latin America 20 or 30 years ago.
Todd Benzman
Yeah, we did.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
Todd Benzman
And CIA has been down there, but just in smaller operational capacity. Now what they're doing now is they're trebling down on CIA. Why would they want to do that? Because the way to go at the cartels is not like they've. We've done in the past where we just go after sicarios and bad guys that are captains on the ground. We now understand that the new way is to take out the Mexican official bureaucrats that are corrupt.
Stephen K. Bannon
Wow.
Todd Benzman
That are running everything.
Stephen K. Bannon
Wow.
Todd Benzman
A good friend of mine, former captain at Texas dps, Jason Jones, he. He was my captain when I was at DPS intel for years. Foremost expert on the cartels, explains that.
J.D. Vance
That.
Todd Benzman
That's called the Company. They call that the Company. Now. Let me give you an example. The. Just a few years ago, the top. It's the. The Peter the Hegseth of Mexico was arrested in California on charges. That guy is the top. That's like the DOD chief of their dod.
Stephen K. Bannon
He's a cartel guy.
Todd Benzman
He's a cartel guy. That's how high this goes. And by the way, the US was eventually forced to return him because Mexico wanted him so badly that they were going to boot out all of our agents, all of our DEA people, everything. Just ruin everything.
Stephen K. Bannon
So we, we, the cartels want him back, I think because he's not doing. I mean, once they get back to the cartels. Come on level.
Todd Benzman
Yeah, that level.
Stephen K. Bannon
Mexico has already given us blowback saying you're not going to be able to send troops here. You're not going to do paramilitary activities. Activities. We're not. We're a sovereign nation. We're not going to do. You're not going to do it. Talk to me about. Because Trump is going to take this thing down, right? He's going to cut them off from. He's going to cut them off from finance and all that. But hey, they're going to end up like isis. He's going to pound this into the dirt. So tell me about that. Because Mexico, Mexico is saying, hey, you can't come down here.
Todd Benzman
He uses rhetoric that goes like this. Total elimination. That's the policy. Total elimination. Now, whether that's going to involve U.S. air power or, you know, Navy SEALs.
Stephen K. Bannon
You mean a reaper like a drone strike?
Todd Benzman
To take drone strikes. You know, things like we do. We did like we did to isis. Nobody wants to see American troops come home in body bags from Mexico. I think that's a political non start. I think deep down inside Trump understands we can't have US Troops return in body bags or that we certainly don't want that to happen. So what they're going to do probably is require the Mexicans to proxy for us. Mexicans.
Stephen K. Bannon
Are they prepared to do that? Isn't it totally corrupt? Is the Mexican Marine, Is there any unit down? The federales are corrupt. The whole thing, all the officials, or you can't blame these people sometimes you're going to get ahead. They're putting the heads in the street, streets, as Oscar says, as a warning of these guys, either lead or gold. Right? Either take our money and you get on the payroll or we're going to blow you away and we're going to blow your kids away.
Todd Benzman
That's why they have to go after the company. The company. You have the Mexican DOD guy doing drug trafficking and laundering with the cartels. I mean, under Nieto just a few years ago, there are people like that in those positions that have to be identified and taken out. I think CIA has their work cut out for them there. And once we have some of that happening, we might be able to trust more the Mexican armed forces. But the Navy, Mexican Navy, which is being trained right now in non conventional warfare, has infantry, Marines that are probably among the most trusted military forces. And we've got Green Berets down there training them right now. So that tells you something's up.
Stephen K. Bannon
We got about a minute to go. I know you got to bounce. Got to get back. Thanks for coming up here. Real support. People loved him last night. He's like a rock star. Getting photos, people Shaking his hand. The mass deportations, People want to know, hey, I got this. We're taking the cartels. We're doing this. The criminals. We got 10 million people left. When do you think that starts? After we get to 175 billion?
Todd Benzman
Yeah. Well, yeah. First of all, we need money. The Biden administration collapsed our detention system, our infrastructure. There are no family unit detention centers anymore. They've collapsed them all. So we just opened a new one. We're opening them here. We're opening them there. We've got Gitmo. You have to have that infrastructure to put people for a few days until you can get a flight or a bus or some. You've got to arrange for them to be expelled over the border. That's happening right now. That's what a lot of the money is needed for, for the infrastructure. Just be patient. They're already, you know, moving out. You know, tens of thousands of criminal aliens. Horrible, horrible guys. Murderers, rapists. It's good. So far.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're. You like what you see?
Todd Benzman
So far, I do okay. Absolutely.
Stephen K. Bannon
Todd, where do people go for all your stuff? Your book changed the direction. We got 30 seconds. Hit me.
Todd Benzman
Okay. Yeah, I'm at X. Bensman. Todd on X. I work for the center for Immigration Studies, by the way. I want to give a shout out to them. Great employer and organization. They've sent me all over the world. They've got a border tour that they're doing, putting together.
Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on one second. Let's take a break.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, you can tell Benjamin's a little out of shape here. Had the clock, by the way. Benjamin, such a rock star last night. I want to thank Tarrant county in the Tarrant County Republican Club Party. It was just amazing last night. Just incredible, folks. Tons of Warren Posse that there in the situation in Texas affects the world. And there's something not right down here with all these. Texas is maga, right? And Texas is the front line, man. You get the rear. Grand Valley got Southern Texas. I mean, it's, this thing's a mess down here with this invasion. So things have got to get sorted and it's beyond my comprehension why MAGA's not running the state. Trump won by 14 points. Ted Cruz won by nine points. We're gonna get answers in the next hour. Border. Cis talk about the border tour. Can people sign up? What are they going to do?
Todd Benzman
Yeah, center for Immigration Studies. We put on a great educational border tour every year. This time it's going to be in Arizona when and at the last week of April.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, perfect.
Todd Benzman
And you can sign up cis.org you can find it in the, in the menu area. You can find a spot for that great, great educational tour there. And CIS has just been a great employer.
Stephen K. Bannon
Oh, they're fantastic.
Todd Benzman
Anytime I've ever had to go somewhere, they pony up.
Stephen K. Bannon
For four years, you, you were one of the handful of people that changed the direction of this country. Your book overrun all your writings. You're coming on here. You're in the Darien Gap. Ben Berkwam, Oscar Blue Ramirez, Todd Benzeman, others that cover the story from day one, the truth of it. And now we know. And most importantly, Todd's saying, hey, if you do two or three things on the first day in executive orders and then backed it up with resources, this thing will be closed down. Guess what? It's closed down. CBS News has got a big story today. Hey, the board is kind of closed, right? And you called it and all that stuff. Remember that? All the lies they told you about, oh, we had this big bill in the Senate and Trump didn't want it. Trump didn't want it because he realized this was just an amnesty bill, right?
Todd Benzman
That's right. I never.
Stephen K. Bannon
These people are crooks. The people in the Senate are crooks. Everybody. Langford. Dude, you pimped that out. Don't sit here and tell me you running Christian camps. All this Christian. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. You lied. You were a running dog for Mitch McConnell. It was a lie. Borders shut down right now we still got to build the wall permanently. But it was executive orders in the political will to go down there and shut it down.
Todd Benzman
That's it. I never want to hear again anything about a complexity of just root causes.
Stephen K. Bannon
Kamala Harrison. Root causes. Hey, there's self deportation. There's self deportation right now out of the United States back there, but northern Mexico. They're all going home, right? They're all going home. They're going home because they know they can't get in El Norte, right?
Todd Benzman
That's it. That's all it took. Nobody wants to lay down 10 grand smuggling and they don't.
Stephen K. Bannon
Look at these people. It's not there but their course. If they see the opportunity, if the government's inviting them in, hell, they're going to come in. You and I would do the same thing. If they're inviting you in and going to give you ebit card and all this stuff and free medical, of course we're going to take a shot. Why not? Once that's over. They're logical people. These, the most rational people in this entire drama have been the folks that would come across the border. Now they're all going to go home and they're not going to hang in Mexico because the Mexican is not going to give them any benefits. Right? Their lives are tough and miserable. But listen, we can't have economic migrants, you know, coming in the country. The country doesn't run like that. And they gamed and lied about the system. Now it's gonna cost you $175 billion. You're right about the opportunity cost, but hey, still $175 billion at a time when we don't have it. But we have to do this one more time. What's all your social media? Yeah.
Todd Benzman
Pensman Todd on X. I've also got account at Getter and Truth Social.
Stephen K. Bannon
You're amazing. Let's go. We got Taj Gil. Taj, where are you, brother?
I
Right here, Steve. How you doing?
Stephen K. Bannon
Hey, where are you at a. Are you. We can get a full screen right there on Taste Tase. You're up there for A. What are you doing? You target practice. What are you doing, man?
I
Yeah, we're either doing a sniper suit with some veterans out in Idaho.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, hold on. What are you doing? Are you getting ready for. You getting ready for. For deploying. We're going to deploy you finally get you back to work. Instead this coffee deal.
I
I love it.
Stephen K. Bannon
I love it.
I
I think so. Yep. Sharpening the edge.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think you're a little rusty, bro. I don't want to say. I don't say anything.
Hugh Hewitt
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Stephen K. Bannon
I think we're send some fresher. I think we're send some guys fresh legs. We're gonna send some fresh legs down there. What do you got? Tell me. Tell me about the coffee, man. Tell me about the coffee. Tasia's an assassin. You should know this. Tastes what they call a shooter, right?
I
The assassin's coffee.
Stephen K. Bannon
One of those at Chris Calta.
I
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Stephen K. Bannon
Why is it? Tell me why. Tell me why. Tell me why. It's the best. Why is the best. Why is it the best?
I
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Stephen K. Bannon
We don't.
I
We don't toast it, we don't carbonize it. And that's the big difference. And it sounds simple, but probably nine out of ten coffee roasters, they burn their coffee. That's why you're going to need milk and sugar. And the milk and sugar just hides the taste of the burnt coffee. So we caramelize ours in a perforated drum, and you can drink it straight black. It's a champagne of coffee. I know champagne and coffee. So it's incredible. We have over 7,000 five star reviews right now, and it's growing. And we've got dark roast, a breakfast blend, we got a summer blend, which is Jamaica coffee. And then we've got a bunch of flavored coffee. We've got mugs, we've got tumblers. The tumblers are stainless steel. They're made in the usa. So if you haven't tried it, you got to try Buy More.
Stephen K. Bannon
It's. It's warp. Warpath Coffee slash worm. You get a 20% discount. They get all kind of merch. Yes, sir. And I want you to read the reviews. Tasia, got a question. That's not. That's not militia training out there. You're. You're in the American Redoubt, what they call the Christian reader. That's not malicious. Please tell me it's not militia training.
I
Exactly. It's not. Yeah, we actually got a couple veterans here in wheelchairs shooting sniper rifles this morning. It's a bunch of veterans right here on a. A farmer's land. He lets us come out here and see we got steel targets set out to 1200 yards. And we're all out of here shooting this morning.
J.D. Vance
I prefer triple.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Episode Summary: "War On The Cartel; Cutting Off American Spending Abroad" (Episode 4306)
Podcast Information:
[00:00 – 01:57]
The episode opens with a significant appearance by former President Donald Trump. Host Stephen K. Bannon welcomes him, highlighting Trump’s strategic support for Ukraine amidst ongoing geopolitical tensions.
Trump emphasizes his intent to be known for saving lives and cutting costs, asserting that his electoral victory was a mandate to prevent escalated conflicts, particularly referencing the potential for a Third World War.
[03:13 – 12:01]
Carl Rove and Ben Shapiro join the conversation, criticizing the transparency of diplomatic negotiations.
Rove argues that public disagreements weaken diplomatic efforts, drawing parallels to World War II negotiations that were conducted privately to maintain unity among allies.
Shapiro warns that Trump's alliances with authoritarian figures undermine longstanding democratic alliances, potentially weakening America's global standing and increasing vulnerability.
J.D. Vance praises President Zelensky’s leadership but criticizes the Trump administration’s handling of Ukraine, expressing concern over potential compromises.
Vance underscores Zelensky’s commitment to Ukraine’s survival and criticizes the lack of accommodation between Trump and Zelensky during diplomatic discussions.
[22:47 – 43:15]
The discussion shifts to domestic issues, specifically immigration and the war against Mexican cartels. Todd Benzman and Stephen K. Bannon delve into the strategies employed by the Trump administration to secure the southern border and dismantle cartel operations.
Benzman asserts that executive orders and resource allocation under Trump effectively closed the border, reducing illegal immigration and moving towards mass deportations of criminal aliens.
The conversation highlights logistical hurdles in the deportation process, including the need for detention infrastructure and increased ICE agents. Benzman emphasizes the priority of national security over financial costs.
[33:30 – 40:33]
Bannon and Benzman discuss aggressive measures against Mexican cartels, focusing on cutting off their financial resources and enhancing operational tactics.
By labeling cartels as terrorist organizations, the administration aims to disrupt their financial networks and dismantle their operations across the United States.
Benzman reveals that increased CIA presence in Mexico is part of a broader strategy to infiltrate and dismantle cartel operations from within, targeting both low-level operatives and high-ranking officials.
The episode details the training of Mexican military forces by U.S. special operations to enhance their capability in combating cartels, signaling a more robust and cooperative approach.
[42:51 – 43:15]
Benzman outlines the financial and logistical steps necessary for large-scale deportations, emphasizing the need for continued funding to expand detention centers and streamline expulsion processes.
He stresses that proper funding is crucial for maintaining and expanding deportation operations to ensure national security and reduce illegal immigration effectively.
[43:15 – End]
The episode concludes with a mix of endorsements, promotional segments, and discussions about ongoing anti-cartel efforts. Bannon reiterates the administration’s commitment to securing the border and dismantling cartel operations, emphasizing the transformative impact of these actions on national security.
Bannon reinforces the administration’s dedication to ending cartel dominance and restoring security to the southern border, positioning these efforts as paramount over international conflicts.
Donald Trump on Legacy:
"I hope I'm going to be remembered as a peacemaker... If we didn't win this election... this could have very well ended up in a third world war."
[01:12]
Carl Rove on Public Diplomacy:
"Diplomacy should never be conducted in public... The only winner out of today is Vladimir Putin."
[03:19]
Ben Shapiro on US Alliances:
"The American European alliance is effectively over... This will make America weaker, definitely more vulnerable."
[05:44]
J.D. Vance on Zelensky:
"If Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and Putin believe that they're going to intimidate and bully... they're going to need to wait until hell freezes over."
[07:07]
Todd Benzman on Deportation Infrastructure:
"The 175 billion is about half what we've given to Ukraine... What do you consider the price of national security?"
[26:39]
Todd Benzman on CIA Operations:
"The CIA is moving in to conduct covert operations... taking out corrupt officials and cartel leaders."
[37:19]
Stephen K. Bannon on Border Security:
"We're cutting off all the money. We're cutting no soldiers. Not one American boy or girl going to go over and defend that crap."
[30:44]
Trump’s Vision: Emphasis on being remembered as a peacemaker while asserting strong national security measures to prevent global conflicts.
Critique of Diplomacy: Advocacy for private diplomatic negotiations to maintain unity and effectiveness, criticizing public disagreements as weakening efforts.
Border Security: Strong focus on closing the southern border through executive actions, mass deportations, and infrastructure investments to combat illegal immigration and cartel activity.
Anti-Cartel Strategies: Comprehensive approach involving financial cuts, designation of cartels as terrorist organizations, and increased CIA operations to dismantle cartel networks.
Paramilitary Training: Enhancement of Mexican military capabilities through U.S. special operations training to effectively combat and eliminate cartel influence.
This episode of Bannon’s War Room provides a comprehensive overview of the Trump administration’s strategies to secure the southern border and dismantle cartel operations, juxtaposed against critiques of international diplomacy and the current state of global alliances.