Episode 4312: Time To Make Things Right; US Gov. To Settle Lawsuit With Babbitts

Summary

Episode 4312: "Time To Make Things Right; US Gov. To Settle Lawsuit With Babbitts"
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Release Date: March 4, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 4312 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into pressing national issues, including the anticipated settlement of a high-profile lawsuit involving the Babbitt family, ongoing economic warfare through tariffs, and the geopolitical maneuvers surrounding Ukraine and China. The episode features insightful discussions with experts like Spencer Morrison and Ben Harnwell, as well as updates on significant political developments.

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1. US Government's Pending Settlement with the Babbitt Family

The episode opens with a focus on the lawsuit concerning Ashley Babbitt, whose tragic death has sparked legal and political debates.

Scarlet Karoleva from Judicial Watch provides an update on the legal proceedings:

[07:55] Scarlet Karoleva: “We're looking to try to resolve some or all of the issues... We want justice for Ashley, and I would hope the Trump administration similarly wants justice for Ashley.”

Karoleva explains that the lawsuit targets the United States government for its handling of the incident and the subsequent protection of the officer involved, Lieutenant Byrd. Key points include:

• Failure to Accountable Forces: The lawsuit argues that Lieutenant Byrd was not held accountable for his actions and was protected despite questionable conduct.
• Evidence of Malfeasance: Karoleva highlights evidence suggesting Byrd acted without proper authorization, including premeditated actions during the incident.
• Potential Implications: A settlement could imply an admission of fault by the US government, setting a precedent for government accountability in such incidents.

Notable Quote:

[12:42] Stephen K. Bannon: “Is this settlement an admission of guilt, at least on the civil side, by the United States government?”

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2. Economic Warfare and the Role of Tariffs

A significant portion of the episode centers on the implementation and impact of tariffs as tools of economic warfare.

Howard Lutnick, Secretary of Commerce, is featured in a pre-recorded clip explaining the upcoming tariff adjustments:

[01:38] Howard Lutnick: “On April 2, the President will have all the tools in his arsenal that he wants to do to reset tariffs... Canada has a national sales tax... it's going to be reset.”

Spencer Morrison elaborates on the necessity and expected outcomes of these tariffs:

[02:55] Spencer Morrison: “Prices aren't going to go up... because the economy was growing. Since 1974, we've shed so many good paying manufacturing jobs and wages have stagnated... directly caused by the trade deficit.”

Morrison argues that tariffs will help:

• Reshore Manufacturing Jobs: Bringing jobs back to the U.S. that were lost to overseas trade.
• Balance Trade Deficits: Addressing the long-standing trade imbalances that have adversely affected American workers.
• Revitalize the American Dream: By ensuring that American products and labor are valued fairly in the global market.

Notable Quotes:

[02:29] Stephen K. Bannon: “This is more than just fentanyl. This is a major reset and a rethinking of the business model of this country.”

[04:27] Spencer Morrison: “Tariffs and President Trump are going to bring those back home. You can also get it directly from Kalamo Press.”

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3. International Reactions: Canada and the European Union

The discussion shifts to international responses to the U.S. tariffs, highlighting tension with Canada and the European Union.

Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, is quoted addressing the Canadian public:

[16:38] Justin Trudeau: “Those tariffs are a very bad idea... We have to talk to our American partners to eliminate obstacles between trade... Do not abandon, fight for your country.”

Ben Harnwell offers an analysis of the European Union's stance:

[20:33] Ben Harnwell: “The European elites are creating the very circumstances that they're claiming to be most opposed to... President Trump is not exactly being unreasonable.”

He further explains Ursula von der Leyen’s announcement of an 800 billion euro increase in defense spending in response to perceived threats, interpreting it as a move that could destabilize European political landscapes and fuel populist movements.

Scarlet Karoleva from the Netherlands adds:

[23:38] Scarlet Karoleva: “No one in Europe wants to continue this war except a bunch of morons... They take crises to gain more power in Brussels.”

These international tensions underscore the complexities of implementing tariffs and the broader implications for global alliances and economic stability.

Notable Quotes:

[25:10] Scarlet Karoleva: “The European Union is really becoming this tyranny European superstate that is controlling every single part of all the member states.”

[26:04] Stephen K. Bannon: “Why is that never discussed? ... it's always that President Trump is the perpetrator here of this agony.”

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4. The Ukrainian Conflict and Geopolitical Strategies

The episode also touches upon the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and interactions between President Trump and Ukrainian leadership.

Scarlet Karoleva addresses Zelensky’s attempts to renegotiate with Trump:

[38:52] Scarlet Karoleva: “At this point, Trump has made a promise to bring peace... He had to actually push Zelensky out to say, okay, come back when you're ready for peace.”

Ben Harnwell comments on Zelensky’s maneuvers:

[40:37] Ben Harnwell: “He's absolutely weaseling his way back into the Oval Office... Looking to coincide a minerals pact.”

The discussion highlights strategic alliances and the delicate balance of power involving the U.S., Ukraine, and broader geopolitical interests, especially concerning the influence of the Chinese Communist Party.

Notable Quotes:

[42:42] Ben Harnwell: “Under this agreement, America would continue to rearm Ukraine, it would continue with those rearmaments. And that's horrific, Steve.”

[39:19] Steve Bannon: “Scarlet, what's your social media? How do people find out more about you, how they get to your thinking, how they get to your writing?”

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5. Forecasting Economic Challenges and National Defense

Stephen K. Bannon forecasts dire economic conditions if current policies persist:

[05:00] Steve Bannon: “Have you seen the news from economists forecasting a depression? ... Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point... national debt and rising cost of living.”

This segment underscores concerns about the sustainability of current economic policies and the urgent need for reforms to prevent a potential economic depression by 2030.

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6. The Influence of the Chinese Communist Party

A critical examination of the Chinese Communist Party’s economic strategies and their impact on global and American industries is discussed.

Referencing Rosemary Gibson’s work, Bannon emphasizes the strategic dominance China has in manufacturing essential pharmaceuticals:

[35:39] Stephen K. Bannon: “Rosemary Gibson exposed all this years ago. ... 'China Rx'... the active pharmaceutical ingredients like vitamin C, 100%.”

The conversation paints China as a strategic adversary leveraging economic dependencies to exert political and economic influence over the United States.

Notable Quotes:

[55:15] Steve Bannon: “The Chinese Communist Party in Beijing are criminals. It's a criminal sect, and they intend to destroy the United States of America.”

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7. Promoting Economic Nationalism and Resilience

Throughout the episode, hosts encourage American listeners to adopt strategies that bolster economic resilience:

• Spencer Morrison promotes his book, How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream, advocating for policies that prioritize American manufacturing and labor.

• Discussions highlight the importance of diversifying investments and preparing for economic uncertainties, emphasizing self-reliance and nationalistic economic policies.

Notable Quotes:

[35:11] Spencer Morrison: “The book is available on Amazon.com, it's called How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream.”

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Conclusion

Episode 4312 of Bannon’s War Room presents a comprehensive analysis of the intersection between domestic policy, economic warfare, and international relations. Highlighting the imminent settlement with the Babbitt family, the strategic implementation of tariffs, and the global geopolitical tensions involving the EU, Ukraine, and China, the episode underscores the need for decisive action to safeguard American interests and economic sovereignty. Through expert insights and robust discussions, Stephen K. Bannon and his guests advocate for policies aimed at rejuvenating the American dream and countering external and internal threats to national prosperity.

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Note: The summary intentionally omits promotional segments and advertisements interspersed within the transcript to focus solely on the substantive content discussed during the episode.

Transcript

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Tom Fitton]

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[Ben Harnwell]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tuesday For March here Overlord 2025 State of the Union day or joint address to Congress. We'll be covering all day and into the evening with the entire tremendous reportage we have here at Rural America's Voice, the channel of MAGA and President Trump. I want to go back to Spencer, Spencer, and I think I've got a, do I have a Howard Lutnick clip? Can I play that? Let me play. I want to play this Howard Lutnick clip and then Spencer, I want to bring you in for your comments. It's about the tariffs, the economic warfare that kicked off last night, although I want people to know and Spencer will talk about this when he comes back. Canada, Mexico, EU and China, along with Japan and South Korea have been at this against us for decade after decade after decade. Let's play Howard Lutnick, the Secretary of Commerce this morning.

[Howard Lutnick]

Remember, the process in America for tariffs is that the president launched a study and those are the rules of tariffs in America. And that study is finished on April 2. So on April 2, the President will have all the tools in his arsenal that he wants to do to reset tariffs. So he will be addressing all of those products in Canada. The fact that, you know, Canada has a national sales tax. Another way to say it is a national tariff on our, on our products and we sell, you know, they import from us very little and we export and they export to us huge amounts. So the idea is that's going to be reset. But that starts April 2nd. Now we just, you know, people say, oh, it's only a small amount of opioids. You know, they're only killing 75,000Americans.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay? This is more than just fentanyl. This is a major reset and a rethinking of the business model of this country. And as Spencer said, why we've been, we've Been getting raped and pillaged by the world since the 1970s. Spencer. I want to put a lie to all. They're just, they're running around. This is going to cause prices to go up, that the American working man and woman are going to pay for this. Your response, sir?

[Spencer Morrison]

Prices aren't going to go up. Steve, we know this for two reasons. First, we understand that historically. And second, the economic logic makes it pretty clear. So let's talk about history. President Trump imposed tariffs during his first term. Did prices go up? No, we actually had deflationary pressure on consumer goods in this country. Why? Because the economy was growing. The reality is that when the economy grows, prices are going to go down because your average person is making more money. Right. I mean, we can't just consider prices in a vacuum. Prices are one side of the equation, wages are the other. And what we've seen is that since 1974, when America started running this massive chronic trade deficit, we've shed so many good paying manufacturing jobs and wages have stagnated to such a degree, the purchasing power for your average person hasn't actually increased. In fact, your average household in 1974 was able to spend more on their wants than their needs than they can today. So your average American is actually worse off now than back in the 1970s. And this is directly caused by the trade deficit.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Exactly. Sending all the jobs overseas. Absolutely. And we financed it. On top of that, we financed it. Hang on one second. Spencer, I need you around because we're going to get back. By the way, the book is reshoring. Spencer, where can people get the book?

[Spencer Morrison]

So the book is available on Amazon.com it's called how Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream. Tariffs are going to do it. We've lost 7 million manufacturing jobs and at least 7 million more service industry jobs. Tariffs and President Trump are going to bring those back home. You can also get it directly from Kalamo Press.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Spencer, hang on one second. I'm going to come right back to you. I want to go to Rome and Ben Harnwell. Ben. And this is all inextricably linked and this is why it's so exquisite. It's coming together and coming together on President Trump's Day of the State of the Union. This is why we're having wall to wall coverage here on Real America's Voice Day. We will be back at 8 o'clock all the way to 11 to cover it with the tremendous team of Real America's Voice, all the voices of America's Voice. Are going to be pitching in tonight to break this down and give you full analysis, because now we're in it. And President Trump has thought about this a long time. He's built up a team over the last four years. It's why it's providential that we had that little break of four years so we could see the demonic nature of the enemies of our country and our Constitution. But there's been a lot of activity the last couple of days in Europe. Ben, you're beat. And particularly the New York Post just breaking a story about Zelensky. I cannot believe this guy. President Trump's theory, excuse me, Kaczynski has no cards that Europe has no cards and he's calling their bluff. Your thoughts, sir?

[Ben Harnwell]

Well, on the no cards point, our take on this, as it was sort of a week ago, even more than a week ago, eight, nine days ago, was that there was one card that Zelensky could play and that was that he could pivot to China and basically say, look, I'll give you guys the rights to the minerals. You reconstruct my country, I'll Obviously take my 10% cut and Ukraine will be a protectorate of China rather than the United States. A lot of people pooh, poohed that. I noticed, however, on Saturday, Andre Yermak, the chief of Staff, Zelensky's chief of staff, and this has been circulating on social media and what have you in a 25 second excerpt, basically said that they are now looking and talking to China. Now, I'm not saying by that, Steve, that this pivot to China on behalf of the Ukrainians is their preferred option, because I don't think it is. What it is, is a potential negotiating tool to. Because this is what both sides are doing. This is what uk, The US Is doing, what Ukraine is doing. It's a negotiating tool for Zelensky to signal to Trump. Look, it's not true that we don't have any cards. There is one thing that we could do, and that is prostitute ourselves to your mortal enemies.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now. Yeah, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on. Ukraine situation is a subset of the rapprochement with Russia. The rapprochement with Russia means, by definition, China is not going to be an Eastern Europe. But just put a pin on it for a second because I got some breaking news here. Just hang on for a second. Ben, I got Tom Fenton. Tom, Gateway pun is breaking a story that the US Government is prepared to settle. Your lawsuit that you brought, I think, to support the Ashley Babbitt her mom and her husband and the family about this Ashley Babbitt situation, I assume you can't give us any details. I just want to know if that's true. Are we making some progress on, I think it was a $30 million suit for the family that Judicial Watch brought. Sir.

[Scarlet Karoleva]

Yeah. The news was first reported by Paul Bedard over at the examiner. And, you know, we filed a, you know, a joint status report with the court because by now, previously, the Biden administration wanted to shut down a large part of Ashley's lawsuit. And now, as we detail in the report to the court, we're looking to try to resolve some or all of the issues. And, you know, we obviously want justice for Ashley, and I would hope the Trump administration similarly wants justice for Ashley. So if you're looking at that report, that suggests that, you know, there may be an end in sight without us having to go through a tooth and nail court battle with the Trump administration over whether Ashley's shooting death was justified.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So what did you argue in the. In the case, and is this going to lead if they settle and we're not going to get a chance for you guys to present this overwhelming evidence in a court of law to adjudicate it? Is there a next step? Is there something else? Because people obviously consider you guys heroes for stepping up and underwriting and being the tip of the spear in the suit to actually get it out there. But at the end of the day, people do want justice for the perpetrator.

[Scarlet Karoleva]

Well, there are two issues. We sued the government, not Lieutenant Byrd. Now Captain Byrd, who was given a promotion rather than held accountable by the U.S. capitol Police. So this is a lawsuit against the United States government, holding them accountable for what Byrd did and the failure to keep him well trained. And obviously it was an ambush. People at the scene said that Ashley was murdered and then Babbitt. Excuse me. Then Byrd was protected for months. We didn't know his name for months until he came out, I think, to Lester Holt. We found out he was being holed up in a military base, Joint Base Andrews, for six months. We found out he had a radio. He issued on the radio report, shots fired, shots fired. He was the only person who fired a shot. We found out that he had shot a car up. Looks like he lied about it. His car was being stolen. He just fired after the car like a madman. So compare how Byrd was treated with every other officer involved in a controversial or any shooting, and you can see there was a terrible disconnect. Now, he was never prosecuted. I Don't think he was ever seriously investigated. We found that out. So the question is the acting U.S. attorney Martin here, will Pam Bondi, will they, in addition to settling this case, if they do settle, will they take another look at any criminal liability for Mr. Byrd? I don't know if they're going to do that. And the other big deal is who was protecting him in Congress? Who was protecting him in Congress because given his record, look, they had to come in and lend him a shotgun because he couldn't buy one on his own because his record was so awful. How was this guy allowed to be there? Forget about Ashley shooting. He shouldn't have been there at all based on his record.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tom, this is why I think people were so enthusiastic about what you guys had done and step up and taking leadership in this. Go back and explain to me. You just said this was obviously an ambush. Were you prepared to prove that in a court of law in this civil trial, that this, in fact, was an ambush?

[Ben Harnwell]

Yeah.

[Scarlet Karoleva]

He was sitting behind a column. Look at the video. He's sitting behind the column. He didn't see who he was shooting at. By his own admission, he couldn't really tell. He popped out and shot her. Was she waiting for someone to crawl through that space? And I look at that video and I see Ashley trying to escape to safety. What a terrible time that. What a terrible incident that was. I still can't believe he shot her. I just can't believe he shot her. Laying in wait, waiting for someone to walk through, and then shooting, shooting into a crowd of civilians and law enforcement. By the way, I'm surprised cops haven't sued over this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Is this settlement an admission of guilt, at least on the civil side, by the United States government? Obviously, the Trump administration had nothing to do with it, but at the time, is it an admission of guilt that at the time the government was at fault and liable for her death?

[Scarlet Karoleva]

I don't want to get too far ahead here. You know, the statement says we're trying to resolve the issues. We're a long way off from any settlement, but I would hope that President Trump would have a personal interest in ensuring there's justice for Ashley. We've highlighted it obviously on our social media feeds, but he's talked about it repeatedly about. He's noted the only official homicide victim on January 6th. Yes, I know others died, but the only finding of homicide was of Ashley Babbitt. And the question is, was that an unlawful homicide? And I think the evidence shows it was.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tom, where can people get.

[Scarlet Karoleva]

You would be not a perfect step for accountability. Right. Because we highlighted the other accountability that can take place, but it'd be a significant one.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

How do people get to you on social media, sir, we're all over social media.

[Scarlet Karoleva]

Judicial Watch.org, judicial Watch on Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, of course. I'm on Twitter, too. OmFitton. We're just relentless. And the case is proceeding. We've got work to do. And, you know, we're going to be prepared to make our case in court. And I just hope, Frankly, I can't imagine the Trump administration would want to go to trial on this. I just can't imagine it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Tom. I don't think anybody wants to go to trial again. I don't. I think I would never want to go to trial against Tom Fitton. Let me say that. Or Judicial Watch. Chris Farrell on the team. You guys are the best. Thank you. Brother Fenton, you're a hero. You know why Finton's a hero? He doesn't take the easy ones. He takes the tough ones. And Tom Fenton is a winner. That's a brother. Will get down in a trench with you and fight. Short break back to Rome, maybe even to Canada. When we return.

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[Justin Trudeau]

It today for all of us. But I think by the incredible solidarity that our society with our companies, civil society, indigenous society, the entire society unanimous. We have to talk to our American partners. Those tariffs are a very bad idea. To eliminate obstacles between trade between our, our states and to find new markets throughout the world to have better economy, more solid, more robust. The last year I discussed with leaders all over the world. My message hasn't changed. Canada is reliable partners and our doors are open. During the last week, we made more efforts to increase our collaboration with Mexico that is also a victim of these tariffs. Together we will find other ways of working and rely one with each other to confront this. Confronted with this uncertainty, Canadians show much solidarity. You prepare products to help companies. I saw you change travel plans to stay remain in Canada. And I thought that you were making more efforts to support small businesses and workers. I saw that you defended your culture to make it shine even. I saw you encourage your athletes with unwavering support, enthusiasm. I cannot be more proud of my fellow Canadians. But there's something else I want to ask you. Ask from you. Do not abandon, fight for your country. Do everything you can to choose Canada, to defend Canada. We will go through this, these difficult times together. We've never been so optimistic after seeing what, how you have reacted in the past weeks. And we will go through, we will.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Survive these as soon as Denver, as soon as we have it recut. I want to get the English part. He started with Trudeau said flat out this was going to be catastrophic for Canada. And he kind of begged. I don't say begged. That's too harsh a term. He made a case to President Trump to let's, let's slow this down, let's continue to work. But he was blunt with the Canadian people about how catastrophic this will be. Ben Harnwell, you heard it. Your thoughts? Because President Trump saying the EU is going to get the same treatment. And we had folks on yesterday and Spencer, I think would reiterate this, that the European Union, which President Trump says was set up to screw the United States, and he was absolutely correct, has been one of the worst trading partners at all. What is the perspective from Europe of this expanding economic war, sir?

[Ben Harnwell]

Well, it's one of panic and fear because as Ursula von der Leyen said this morning, they're now going to be wrestling, I think 800 billion euros worth of increased increases in defense spending vis a vis Russia. Of course, there's no money in which to do this. One thing I've noticed, which is particularly Absent, however, on behalf of the European elites talking to their peoples is actually the justice of what President Trump is talking about. I think off the top of my head, we're talking about tariffs that German car manufacturers place on that Germany places on American car manufacturers as 10%. And I think currently America charges just 2% on German cars being exported into America. So it's massively unfair, as President Trump has always been saying. And that is one part of the argument that, you know that von der Leyen, the commission, the various Olaf Scholz or na, Friedrich Mertz, the presumed chancellor. This is something that they're not actually explaining to their own peoples. They just say, this is Trump who's he's withdrawing from global leadership. He's being reckless and chaotic. But they're never actually explaining to their own people what President Trump's justification is. And I think when the peoples find that and they do their own research and they look into this and they realize that actually Trump is not exactly being unreasonable. He just wants a level playing field that all that will do is will cement in European people's minds that they have been catastrophically lied to by their respective governments. And if Ursula von der Leyen tries to move ahead in raising anything near €800 worth of extra defence spending, the consequence of people realizing that they have been lied to by their respective governments, combined with the lack of money that they will have in their own wallets at election times, is going to accelerate this movement that we've already seen over the last 10 years due to the immigration crisis. And that's going to be a massive popular upheaval of block votes from. You'll see the center right, the Christian Democrat, just absolute collapse, and people will just flood over to the very political parties that they're trying to make illegal, make illegal and suppress right now. So this is just to watch, Steve, watch what's going on, as we do every day on the War Room, because the elites, the sociopathic overlords, as we call them, are creating right now the very circumstances that they're of a political movement that they claim to be most opposed to.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to bring in Ben, Hang on for a second. And Spencer, hang on. I want to bring on Scarlet Karoleva from Netherlands. You've mentioned to me many times about Ursula Vandele. What about this? What about her move? Was it 800 billion euros? How is this going to set, particularly with young people in the eu? Ma'am?

[Scarlett]

Well, to begin with, no one in Europe wants to continue this war except a bunch of morons. That are actually controlling us right now. Because what is important to know is that we have the European Commission, which is just basically a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who are dictating what to do, what not to do. Who wants to spend now 800 billion euros. This 800 billion is supposed to be invested into the military, but it's going to create more deaths. And this is the perfect way to actually describe the European Commission. Whenever there is a crisis, they will take it and they will make sure that they can use it to gain more power. They've done it already during the euro crisis with the euro bonds, which basically meant that the rich countries had to pay for the poor countries. They did it during COVID with the next generation eu and that money was spent on, let's say, Lamborghinis, Rolexes by some bunch of criminals. And yet again, they have found another crisis they can to capitulate on, which is now the war in Ukraine. And this is the thing that the European Commission does, they take the crisis and they really try to advance the agenda of having more power in Brussels.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And the dangerous part is Ben. Hang on, is Ben right? Is Ben Harnwell right from Rome? Is this what's driving this shift to the sovereignty movement to the right? Is this what's driving this populist, nationalist. Whatever nation you look at in Europe is their behavior in the EU, their behavior in Brussels?

[Scarlett]

100%. So the idea of the European Union once was that we would have an economical collaboration. Well, that isn't the case anymore. More and more we see that the EU is really becoming this tyranny European superstate that is controlling every single part of all the member states. So for example, when we talk about defence, the fence initially is actually a competence of the member states. It's not even a competence of the European Commission. Now what they want to do with this 800 billion is to drive new military defense economy. But I'm sure that behind it, what they truly want is to actually get an European army. And then what's next? We're going to send an European army to the front line in Ukraine. Is it really what we want to move towards to. Well, if it's up to the elite, this is what this will, this is what will happen.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Scarlett, hang on for one second. Ben Harnwell, you've made a case a minute ago that you never hear on American television. You made a case that, hey, the entire deck stacked against the United States and all Trump's doing is trying to make a level playing field for American companies and American manufacturers and American workers. Why is that case never made? Why does it take Ben Harnwell, not an economist, but a political commentator in Rome, to make that case that you never hear in the United States? In fact, you hear the exact opposite, that the rest of the world's blameless. And this is all Trump being basically a psycho on economic warfare against our, quote, unquote allies.

[Ben Harnwell]

Why? Because it's these, the socialist, our sociopathic overlords. Their one significant tool that they have left in their armory is this false narrative of which all the social points of authority and credibility they bow their heads towards. And you know, Steve, I give them credit, they still have about 50% of the population who buy into this narrative. It's declining year by year, possibly a couple of percent, 3, 4%. Year by year, it's falling. And that is a permanent trend. But it's their means of maintaining power. Because if you look at the results of what they are able to deliver with their maladministration, it's making people poorer, it's piling up debt, it's destroying their quality of life. These are the things that people can see. And yet these, these are the people that, you know, what do they call themselves? The adults in the room, that they carry themselves in a certain way, they have a certain authority and people of, let's say, towards the left of the bell curve in terms of latent intelligence, they naturally give credibility and accept these people. That is why, Steve, when you asked me this question, why do they, why do they never present these arguments? Because they have no need to. Why would they? It would only serve to undermine their own credibility when they push out this argument that Trump is out of control, he's reckless, he's destroying people's prosperity. I give way because I know we've.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

In the sky, violent attacks on everyday Americans.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Scarlet Karoleva]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If I can't get to it this morning, which I think we're pretty jammed, I'm gonna get to, we're gonna break down and have some clips from Trudeau's addressed to the Canadian people. We're also playing our other channel on Rumble right now, the Bridge Colby hearing. This is very important. This is the head policy guy for the Pentagon. It's a second or third tier job, but like Michael Anton over the State Department, these are the central kind of hubs of the coordination of policy. And if you get to particularly after you go off air today, you might want to keep an eye on that because quite interesting, his big tormentor there I think will be Tom Cotton, kind of the king of the neocons. But I think Bridge Colby is going to get confirmed. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Birchco, first off, gold's on a tear, but that's not why you buy gold now. It's a hedge. Of course, it's been up, I don't know, 50% over the last year. That's not the traditional move of gold. That's what not gold's not supposed to be supposed to be a store of value, not an investment like that. But here's what you do. Take out your phone, abandon and Text Bannon at 989-898. Get the fundamentals. Birch Gold's put out a new brochure totally free Investing in Gold in the Era of Trump the Ultimate Guide. Make sure you get it and look at today. Then they have all the discussion about the instrumentality 401s, IRAs, all of it tax deferred. So make sure you go check it out today. Also, we're going to need you at the Ramparts. Brian Glenn talked about the cr. President Trump will address it tonight. It's going to be a fiasco. The Democrats came out after we went on air and said they are unified. They're not going to vote for anything. They're going to force it back on President Trump. So this one's going to Be ugly. Of course. Doge overnight after our insistence that they cross the Potomac and go, the Pentagon came out with $80 million. That's just not good enough. We got to get serious about cutting expenses here. That's what's driving inflation. You got to cut spending. I don't know what's going to go on, but I'm hearing talk now maybe a 30 day cr to get back and get these appropriations bills done. But somebody's got to get Johnson's attention that this is a first order priority, that the reconciliations and everything you wasted time on, well, you should have had these done beforehand but then afterwards you should have focused on the CR getting the appropriation bill. You've got to get 25 right to set the predicate for 26. And if it takes the war Room to get their attention, then so be it. That means we're going to need you at the ramparts at the appropriate time. Make sure you can be there. Home title lock now has their million dollar restoration guarantee, triple lock protection, 24 hour coverage. They alert you in the middle of the night if anything's wrong with your title and then they put up a million dollars in case something happens to your title for restoration. Go talk to Natalie Dominguez and the [e-mail] Steve25 Check that out. I'd love that promo code. Steve25 Go check it out today. Want to bring in back to Spencer. Spencer, I want to ask you this question that Ben kind of raises. Why does no one ever make the case that you don't hear it? You don't hear it on business tv. You never see it in the New York Times when CNN covers this. You never hear the fact that every nation on earth is screwing us every day when it comes to trade. And all President Trump is trying to do is get back to a level playing field. Why is that never discussed? No matter a news article, even Wall Street Journal, it's always that President Trump is the perpetrator here of this agony. When it comes to global trade, Sir.

[Spencer Morrison]

Well, I think the reality is that the people who are promoting this so called global free trade and it's not global free trade, it's not fair trade, it's asymmetric and highly managed trade. But in any case, they bill it as free trade. The reality is that these people are funded by the people profiting off of the looting of America. These big businesses, these shadowy figures behind the scenes, you know, the Klaus Schwab type elites, they own most of the mainstream media. They are major donors to America's universities. And as a result, they've set the tone for the next generation of economists and young business leaders to be supporting economic globalism. But what is economic globalism? It's taking America's economic advantage. It's taking our factories, it's taking our jobs, and it's taking our technology and it's shipping it abroad to countries like China, to Mexico, to Saudi Arabia. This is part of the globalist movement. And globalism can only succeed if America is destroyed. So free trade is a major part of that agenda.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The book is reassuring. The author is Spencer Morrison. He's one of the leading voices on this entire economic warfare. The tariffs, all of it. I'm sure, sir, we're going to see a lot of you in the days and weeks ahead. Where do people go? Once more to the book. Also your website, also all your social media.

[Spencer Morrison]

Thanks very much, Steve. The book is available on Amazon.com, it's called How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream. You can also order it directly from Kalamo Press on social media. You can find me on X realsp Morrison. I'm also the editor in chief of the national economics editorial. That's nationaleconomicseditorial.com I have a column you can find me on American Greatness and Blaze Media. Thanks for having me on the show, Steve. I really appreciate it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, brother. No, no, no. This is important. You're one of the experts. Remember Rosemary Gibson? Let me back up. Last night, the Chinese Communist Party President Trump, oh, by the way, right before he hit the trigger on the Chinese part of it, said, you know what, because of fentanyl and everything else they're doing and kind of their attitude, I'm going to double it. It's going to be 20%. That is not a small thing. That's kind of a monumental thing. As I've said in here for months and months and months and months and months leading up to this point, the Chinese Communist Party is just not going to sit there. We know that they're the mortal enemy of their own people and their mortal enemy of the American people, the Chinese Communist Party. And this is what I do admire about them. They're tough. They didn't come back. And like Trudeau just went there. And you know, Trudeau, I thought, gave a very good presentation to his people, but he's kind of just like Zelensky. There's a new story out and Ben's going to be here in a second. TARP and Zelensky's trying to say, oh, let me just get back. Let's have a redo, Trudeau. Let's have a redo. Let's think this through. Chinese Communist Party. In your face. We know what this is, and we will fight you to the bitter end. So it's game on. It's one of the reasons Jace Medical, they took the book of Rosemary Gibson. Remember, Rosemary Gibson exposed all this years ago. I think the book was called China Rx. And she said, hey, the Chinese Communist Party strategically took all of the basic manufacturing of generic pharmaceuticals. They have 100% of it. And in fact, they have the underpinning is that the active pharmaceutical ingredients like the vitamin C, 100%. And at some point in time, they're gonna have the leverage. When they need it, they're gonna use it. This was this whole movement back in the. In the pandemic to get to basically reshore that we got one facility up in, I think Richmond, Virginia, south of Richmond, is not fully operational right now. Rosemary Gibson was pretty. Was a big part of that. Peter navarro. That's why Dr. Sean Rollins and his team built a business, Jace Medical. So go there today to Jace Medical and just check it out. Deep dive into the information and get all the information possible about what Jason Medical can do to get you ahead of the curve. Because, hey, I'm just telling you, when the Chinese Communist Party says they're going to fight you to the better end, they're going to use every tool fair and unfair. These people, the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing are criminals. It's a criminal sect, and they intend to destroy the United States of America. So it's game on President Trump, a historic day as he leads up to a state of the union he's going to talk tonight about. It's called the. I think the overall theme is the renewal of America for a new golden age or about the American dream. But it's also making the case for disruption. Disruption here at home and taking on the administrative state and disruption throughout the world. This kind of geo, economic and geostrategic reset. So we'll get it tonight. Scarlett, here's a question. Zelensky says he wants to get back in the room with President Trump. It's all just a giant misunderstanding. If you were one of President Trump's advisers, would you recommend for him to deal with Zelensky or to move on? Ma'am.

[Scarlett]

At this point, Trump has made a promise to bring peace. And I know that is exactly what President Trump will do. And this is why Trump is such a in the art of the deal, he know that he had to actually push Zelensky out to say, okay, come back when you're ready for peace. And apparently Zelenskyy needed to be put in his place. So I know that Trump will do exactly that. And that's also what I would advise him because what's going on now, Scarlet?

[Steve Bannon]

What?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah.

[Scarlett]

What I'm worried about is if he doesn't do it, it will actually get out of control in Europe. I really want to stress that it was actually announced. What Ursa von Deneir announced today could be the start of a war that will escalate on the European continent. If there won't be this amount of budget to get the military established in Europe, we will have an European army, then there is no way back. We need this deal because it is our only option to actually get a peace.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Scarlett, what's your social media? How do people find out more about you, how they get to your thinking, how they get to your writing?

[Scarlett]

You can find me on Twitter scarleta and you can find me on TikTok at politicmedscarlet.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Scarlett, thanks so much for joining us this morning. Very prescient. Appreciate you.

[Scarlett]

Thank you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ben Harnwell, your favorite person. Zelensky. New York Post is breaking stories. Breitbart, the great sister Martell over there. We love her. Frances Martell, one of my best hires at Breitbart, along with Matt Boyle. Talk to me about it. Zelensky, is he weaseling his way back into the Oval Office? What would you tell President Trump, Sir?

[Ben Harnwell]

Steve, he's absolutely weaseling his way back into the Oval Office. And I'm likening this to the dead zombie at the end of a horror film just before the credits go up. You think, I finished. It's over. We're saved. And then as the camera zooms in, you see the zombie twitching. That is exactly. And by the way, I think there are people around President Trump, including POTUS himself, but that still secretly hanker to close the deal on this minerals pact. So it's not by any means a foregone conclusion that Zelensky is wasting his time here. Let me go to this article that you're referring to, the New York Post piece. This is what Zelensky's put out on X. Our meeting in Washington at the White House on Friday did not go the way it was supposed to be. It's regrettable that it happened this way. It's time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. And then on and on and on he goes. He does say none of us wants an endless war. And he does thank America for its help in maintaining Ukrainian sovereignty. But he's basically saying, just give me the date, I'll fly over.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, I'll sign this deal. But hang on, hang on, hang on. And that's the JD Thing, which I thought was excellent. The one I didn't love was the thing America doesn't. We don't need a thank you. We're not interested in thank you. We're interested in peace and prosperity and to stop the shooting. Does that imply right there that. Because here's the hang up. They want a security guarantee and they want our continued commitment of money, particularly on the, on the, on the, on the warfare side. And by the way, I disagree. It shouldn't be any money. Walk away from the whole thing. The only thing we gotta do is investigations. Just walk away because this is Vietnam. Do you believe we got 30 seconds? I'm gonna hold you through the break. Do you believe that even his coming back crawling on his belly, he's still implying it needs an American security guarantee because the Europeans really can't give one, sir.

[Ben Harnwell]

Absolutely. It definitely implies that. And let's not forget President Trump himself said in that famous Oval Office scene, he actually said it was about five seconds long, but he definitely said that under this agreement, America would continue to rearm Ukraine, it would continue with those rearmaments. And that's horrific, Steve. Absolutely horrific.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah. When that five seconds was not. Not the best. But President Trump, I think, is digging a lot, drawing a line right here. Our recommendation is, you've had it with Zelinsky. He's a punk, cannot be trusted. The minerals deal will be, you know, just. Even to get to a closing of a real deal will take forever. It'll draw everybody in. It's a huge opportunity cost. Just walk away. Vander Leyen wants to raise $800 billion. Have at it, sister. Have a good time with that one short commercial break. We're going to return with Ben Harnwell on the State of the Union day in the world.

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[Scarlet Karoleva]

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[Ben Harnwell]

Absolutely, Steve. I'll just finish off the Ukraine thing. I'll post the link folks to Francis Martel's article on rumble and you'll also find it on Geta. Zelensky says he's ready for a redo with Trump after Oval Office fiasco. I'll post that Francis Martell, a great writer, used to edit my articles for you, Steve, 10 years ago. Okay, so let's go back to the tariffs thing here. I found out the statistics which I quoted earlier. This is the situation Passenger cars, United States the US currently imposes 2.5% tariff on all imported autos whereas the European Union imposes on America a 10% tariff on U.S. vehicles. Now I don't condemn European countries for doing that. They were fighting in their countries best interest. They were fighting in their domestic car production's best interest there. Do you know who I condemn? I condemn successive generations of American leadership of both parties that sat back and did absolutely nothing to protect US Domestic car production until Donald Trump comes along and says he's going to even out the field a little bit. And all these people who did nothing are now criticizing him for it. Why? Because he's showing them up. He's showing up the fact that their sheer performative uselessness Scranton Joe and all this didn't do absolutely anything for Pennsylvania. Absolutely nothing. And these are all the people and all their friends and all the smart alec sitting there with their bow ties on NBC. None of these people ever did anything for American domestic car production. Donald Trump is rolling up his sleeves and he's going out there and he's fighting for American interests. And you saw this in the Oval Office on Friday. We had in that 15 minute thing. I've never seen anything like in my life. You actually saw an American president losing his temper because he thought Americans were getting a bad deal. One of the best things I've ever seen in my life.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thanks Steve Best. Where do people go Ben, you're putting stuff up all day. It's amazing. You're absolutely dead. Spot on.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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