Art Del Cueto (2:39)

But I want to point this out about Doge. Doge is doing a lot, but Congress still appropriates the money. And I know this sounds quaint and people might say, oh well, Elon Musk will take a chainsaw to it or whatever, okay? But there's about to be a funding bill that's going to be passed next week to keep the government open past March 14th. That funding bill will not include any of the cuts, not one of the cuts that Doge is proposing. And you're hearing increasingly, I'm hearing increasingly from Republican lawmakers in critical positions. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, who has said work like we need a chance to look at these cuts, see if they make sense, and then we'll deal with them next year. So I think that's important to keep in mind.

Steve Bannon (3:24)

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

Eric Bolling (3:45)

It's going to happen.

Kira Davis (3:46)

And where do people like that go.

Steve Bannon (3:48)

To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

Eric Bolling (4:06)

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

Steve Bannon (4:16)

It's Thursday 6th, March in the year of our Lord 2025. Welcome to the afternoon early evening edition of the War Room. So kind of earth shattering activity in the White House today. It started last night, I think yesterday as we brought you up to speed with Elon Musk and some of the Doge people going to Capitol Hill. They start with a lunch in the Senate. Then he came back last night at 7 o'clock and went to the House. Jake Sherman right there talked about the issue we talked about this morning. Right now as it stands, there's no Doge cuts in this clean CR and I think a lot of people are saying, hey, that's an issue. We got to know where this stands. It's been a black box operation up until now. People couldn't actually sense where they were going, where they're going to do next. But more importantly, what are you actually finding and how do I get a feel for that, particularly if I'm a cabinet department, right. Whether the Treasury Department or you know, State Department over at Defense, like, where are you going? How can we help? What are you doing? What are you finding? Total black box. They were stiff armed and people reached out and asked and then in black box on kind of results like what do we have here? And it kind of reached, I think ahead last night after Elon Musk did not divulge anything to either the House or the Senate. Nothing about the numbers. We talked about this over and over again. You just can't pass. You're not going to be able to pass. Just a clean CR where you've got Biden's budget numbers, $2 trillion deficit and you're financing, I guess we're fully funding because clean CR is an up or down vote, folks, that all the embedded waste, fraud and abuse that you found you're going to fund. We said this now for months. It's insanity. It just, it can't work like that. The fallback position is to identify it and say, hey, we're going to get to it through impoundment. Now, empowerment is a putting in execution. This theory of the unified executive, the unified executive theory, where President Trump is the chief executive officer of the US Government, has pretty unlimited power in that regard. And that the appropriations bill that is a law every year, that is how Congress kind of starts the process of spending money. Obviously with OMB and Treasury in the loop. Those are executive branch entities that the president has the option as executive to say the appropriations of the ceiling and I can take it and impound it or maybe even potentially reprogram it in this case, impounded. So you just cut it off the national, the deficit so it doesn't go into the national debt, increase the debt. That theory is kind of, I think a little bit on Rocky Shoals. And the reason is because Roberts, Amy Coney Barrett, overnight or the night before kind of ruled that, hey, you can't cut off some of this funding for Foreign Affairs, $2 billion, it's questioned. You have to pay it. Now there's all kind of questions whether it's contractual obligation or is the Supreme Court just backing the judge. Hey, maybe all those things. But What I know is that something should be pretty clear, particularly in regards to what you call impoundment, is all sudden up in the air. And they filed more papers today at 11:00. And this will proceed on the other rescission which the White House doesn't want. The rescission is because that gets back to the legislative. That is where the Senate and the House can rescind to have rescissions on certain elements they've done if they feel like they're not going to be spent. And here yesterday, Elon, and I'm told against guidance from the White House, who does not want to go back and have rescissions and have the Senate have to look at it again. They and the executive branch want to be the drivers of the action, not turn it back over to the legislative. He kind of agreed in the room to Lindsey Graham and these guys saying, hey, if we have to do it, let's pass it now and we'll rescind it later. Rand Paul had said, yeah, up to $500 billion and we'll do it in hundred billion dollar tranches. As I said, I would love that if it was $500 billion. Bottom line is Jake Sherman just said nobody knows any numbers.

Mike Lindell (8:29)

Why?

Steve Bannon (8:29)

Because the black box operation of Doge, nobody can see into any numbers. The White House staff doesn't see them. I'm not so sure the President seen them. Certainly the cabinet heads have not seen them and the Alphabet agencies. And I think that kind of came to a head last night. This meeting was called this morning. My understanding there was a little bit of hot talking in the room by potentially some of the, some of the cabinet officials. The President put out a. The story in Politico is pretty brutal. And that came from sources I think close into the situation in which they said, hey, he had his wings clipped. He was told that he couldn't just go in and only department heads. He was told point blank by the President in front of people. Only department heads. Only my cabinet officials or the heads of these Alphabet agencies can actually fire people. You're a consultant advisor. You have to go to them and do it. And then the President took it down even a notch from there. He said, hey, people are not showing up. People that did not come back to work. People are underperformers, people that are not up to the task. People are not doing their job. Yes, they should be let go, but I don't want more mass firings. I don't want to hatch it. I want to. Scalpel. Scalpel. This is Huge. This has now come to a head of Doge and I am a huge supporter of George. I'm a huge believer you have to take down the administrative state. I think DOGE has kind of give kind of set and been a trauma inducing instrument. I would strongly recommend it go, but it can't go in just darkness. I believe that we believe in radical transparency here. We're talking about radical transparency in the executive branch, yet we have an entity out there that's a complete black box. It doesn't work like that if you're going to have radical transparency. And last time I thought, I thought Twitter or X was for free speech absolutism and radical transparency. Well, we know the free speech absolutism is a cold, total lie, right? Radical transparency. You can't have radical transparency if it's black box. It has to be open up. Bottom line, I still believe that Doge has a lot to offer and what we need to do now is go back and say, hey, it's just a first cut. It could be a range number. It could be 50 to 100 billion, 100 to 200 billion. Just give us a number. That number, I believe has to be in the cr. I just don't think people can take it upon. Hey, you're going to get to it. Well, maybe you don't get to it. And if the number's zero, then I think we ought to know because I think it's going to have, I think people in the Freedom Caucus, I think some of these deficit hawks are going to sit there and go, hang on for a second. We're going to prove Biden's number, not Trump's. We're going to prove something that's got a $2 trillion already baked in deficit and there's no cuts, there's no Doge cuts, there's no other cuts. It's not logical. And people sit there going, hey, I'm gonna get to in 26, we're gonna get to it. We've heard this over and over again. You're always gonna get to it next time. You've now had six months to deal with this. And I would even say, as much as I hate crs, if you needed another couple of weeks to get the appropriations bills done and let's see where the cuts are. My fear that people in the Senate that are trying to push this are not known for cutting, that they just want to do the approaches bill because it's going to be higher. This is why I think now's the perfect time. Now is the perfect time to have a national discussion on spending. Until we get our arms around that, it's not going to just be waste, fraud and abuse. Note to self, the trillion dollars that was promised is not there. If the trillion dollars was there, they'd been at the Pentagon for three weeks, we would have heard more than $80 million. That's what they put out, $80 million. Sean Parnell, think Bloomberg put that story up. It's now time to be adults. Can't cosplay. We don't wear capes. This is the real world. The nation's in the balance of everything that President Trump is doing every day to hammer out laying down the guns and stopping the kinetic part of the Third World War, both in Ukraine and now in the Middle East. And we had the brigadier general on this morning from Israel. Everything President Trump is doing on the mass deportations and taking on the cartels and sealing the border, we're going to have one of the senior Border Patrol union officials on here later. Everything that's going on there, everything that's going on in every other aspect of deconstructing the administrative state of what President Trump's doing. Signing executive order tomorrow to do away with the Education Department, you know, making English primary language. Everything that President Trump is doing. The key thing, if we don't get the economy right, and you can't get the economy right until you get control of this out of control federal spending, you can't. It's impossible. It's a runaway train and nobody wants to jump on the train and get in and, you know, pull the switch, pull it back, pull the brake. We're going to have to take some political pain. But if the American people understand you explain to them, hey, we're in a mess. And one of the reasons we're in a mess is we've avoided these tough conversations for decades and decades and decades. In fact, we did the exact opposite. We just spent and spent and spent. You know, this, you know, this has happened either in your personal life, you know, people's personal lives has happened in. We need an intervention. We need an intervention. I think the intervention, the person actually does it and helps President Trump, maybe this audience, we'll have to see. We've got a few more cards to play for us. Don't get ahead of us. 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Art Del Cueto (16:38)

It Today has made it a priority both to end lawfare and the weaponization of government and also to hold those who have engaged in lawfare accountable. One of those, one of the law firms that has been involved in that is called Perkins Coy. That's also a law firm that has engaged in unlawful DEI practices. This executive order will suspend and I've.

Tom Homan (17:01)

Watched it take place.

Art Del Cueto (17:03)

This executive order will suspend security clearances and access to certain federal resources for that law firm and also launch a holistic review of unlawful DEI practices at some of the nation's largest law firms.

Tom Homan (17:18)

This is an absolute honor to sign. What they've done is, is just terrible. It's weaponization, you could say weaponization against a political opponent. And it should never be allowed to happen again. And you're looking at about 15 different firms.

Art Del Cueto (17:43)

That or more, sir. Yes.

Tom Homan (17:45)

Okay. Worst in CNN is msdnc, which is the worst. And the good news is very few people watch them anymore. They have lost such credibility. And frankly, what Nicole Wallace said, I've never been a fan of hers, but and she's not very talented. But I'll tell you, what she said the other day about that young man is disgraceful. She should be forced to resign and Rachel Maddow should be forced to resign. Nobody watches her anyway. I don't know if it's not possible they pay her as much money as I hear, but certainly she's lost all credibility, both of them. But what they, what they said the other day, they should be forced to resign about that young person who is, who is suffering. Great.

Steve Bannon (18:38)

Wow. We have the Natalie Winter segment here teed up by the president states. Natalie, joining us from the White I want to talk first about Perkins Coy. You have followed this firm, the firm originally, Mark Elias. Tell us about it, put in perspective what they've actually done and why. What the president states did today was bold, beautiful and dead spot on, ma'am.

Kira Davis (19:05)

Well, I would also add a retribution in there in terms of how you want to describe it. Right. We're fighting lawfare with lawfare, but the framing of it as retribution, you know, we always reject here in the war room. It's justice, it's accountability. But this is one of the firms, not just because of their very, very close partner level affiliations with Mark Elias, who's now obviously democracy docket and one of the leading voices and activists on all things they say election integrity. We know in reality that means election rigging. But they also played an integral role in terms of the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Steele dossier, Fusion gps, allowing that campaign to spy on President Trump, creating the Russia collusion hoax. Right. They're not a law firm, just like all these judges that are trying to interrupt and sabotage President Trump's agenda. They're activists masquerading as such. And I think executive orders like these I think sort of play into the brilliance of President Trump, which is he sort of unmasks, right, just the absurdity, I guess you could call it, of the deep state, but just of how this city operates. What do I mean by that? He's so wonderful at unmasking the bias of the mainstream media, the bias of elections, the bias of even things like presidential Debate commissions. But I think with his revocation of security clearances not just for law firms like Perkins Coie, but also, remember, what was it just a few weeks ago, revoking security clearances for people like Mark Zaid and Norm Eisenhower really makes you wonder why in the heck these people had them to begin with. Sort of in the same way as to why so many of these, you know, D.C. based NGOs were receiving such hefty, hefty high dollar contracts for work that really could only be at best described as euphemistic ways of sabotaging the populist movement. And at worst, just a straight up racket so Victoria Nuland and her family can buy their third or fourth home.

Steve Bannon (20:57)

You know, the other reason it's also so bold is this city's run by law firms, you know, particularly powerful firms. There's a book, I think by Evan Thomas years ago called the man to See. It was about Edward Bennett Williams, who one time owned the Washington Redskins, I believe. But he was the power lawyer in town, just like Bob Strauss was. This was a Bob Bauer was the senior partner, I think one of the senior partners of Perkins Coy that Elias reported to their political operation. Like you said, it wasn't a law firm. It was essentially a massive political operation for the Democratic Party. And if you look at everything from Russiagate, they've got their hands in everything. President Trump really went to war with the big Washington law firms and not just Perkins Coy, which is the first, but in revoking their security clearance. But he implied he's going to be doing a lot more. Natalie.

Kira Davis (21:54)

Well, they're not law firms, right. They're effectively lobbying firms. And if you look at the clients that they've had, oftentimes, right, they're foreign governments, oftentimes it's the Chinese Communist Party. And I think when you look, if you want to link this, for example, to what was it earlier today, all those, you know, Chinese Communist Party linked, if not employed hackers being indicted for trying to steal and hack an inbox of high level American officials. I think if you really get to the bottom of why so many Chinese Communist Party linked entities want to hire and retain, right, domestic or here, Western law firms that really are just a stone's throw away from me right now, it's because of these security clearances, right? It's very nefarious. And frankly, I think if you, if you broaden it out, right, think about all these law firms that refused to work or dropped President Trump during the 2020 election year. Right. These are clearly, clearly partisan actors. I don't understand why they have security clearances in the first place to begin with. But I think today is a day where you really come to appreciate frankly, what I guess we'll call the interregnum period, right? The 2020-2024 stolen election years. Because President Trump and this whole movement, we were able to see who our enemies actually were and make no mistake, still are. But I think it gave us the ability to pursue eos like this, revocations of some security clearances like this, because this really gets to the heart of it, right? So much of Doge is about, you know, cutting off the heads. I guess it's a hydra head of the deep state from the government perspective. But, you know, it's a very corporatist, right, kind of public private fusion partnership, right, where they sort of carry out or they outsource, they off source the stuff that impinges, whether it's the censorship stuff, you name it, to corporations or in this case the law firms. And I think today, really, I know we aren't allowed to say retribution, but it's a wonderful day for justice and accountability.

Steve Bannon (23:46)

Very much so. Also a wonderful day for your interview with DJ Daniels, his entire time at the White House and State of the Union. Very touching. Great young man. But President Trump, Nicole Wallace, we talked about that yesterday. Rachel Maddow, give me your assessment of President Trump actually singling out those two and going after him. And particularly Rachel Nicole Wallace's, who's kind of the new superstar there, her comments about dj.

Kira Davis (24:14)

Well, let's be clear because MSNBC loves to, I would say mansplain, but I guess maybe they themsplain to this audience that what we're seeing from President Trump is not what we voted for. And what the American people voted for was for President Trump. After signing eos whereby he's revoking deep state, state law firm security clearances, he then starts dunking on Nicole Wallace and Rachel Maddow. That is precisely what I voted for, right? Not just because of the disgusting comments that were made yesterday towards DJ Dan. You know, it's only a matter of time before I probably get kicked off the White House lawn, but I'll take it. But it's, but it's true. It's absolute depravity from these people. And you know what, Steve? For so long, these people have gotten away with it, right? They walk around because they're like members of the White House Correspondents Association. I see it firsthand. They have an air of Superiority, it's frankly, it's pseudo intellectualism. The whole time while I was sitting in the briefing room watching the State of the Union, the people behind me were talking about how they were live fact checking President Trump. And I'm sorry, not to sound reductive, but the mainstream media, the legacy media, absolutely succeeded. Sucks. And it's a mask off moment when they start attacking 13 year old survivors of brain cancer. And frankly, Steve, it shows you how desperate they are because it harkens back to the 2016 resistance era tactics which they pledged and they had multi million dollar meetings saying they weren't going to engage in those tactics because they know how off putting they are. But they're scrambling because they have absolutely nothing to go for. Because, because you know what, President Trump's agenda is extremely popular and maybe they're shooting right into their veins. The what, 76% approval rating of President Trump's State of the Union address. But it just shows you how freaking out they are. I guess all their pals up at Perkins Cooley have now lost their security clearance. So foreign governments aren't going to want to hire them to spy and hack the American people. But I guess it's a tough day when you've been what, lying to this country for decades. Yeah, you lose your security clearance, you melt down and you get called out in the Oval Office as you should be.

Steve Bannon (26:26)

And that, young lady, is what we voted for. What's your social media? Natalie Winners, what's your social. What's your social media? Until tomorrow, what's your social media?

Kira Davis (26:38)

Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. Thank you for having me.

Steve Bannon (26:43)

Thank you. Go inside, get warm. Natalie Winters from the White House. Like I said, big day. The Perkins Coy thing is, speaks to bigger issues. Those bigger issues are who really runs the city, the imperial capital? It is the lawyers. The lawyers and the lobbyists. But most of the lobbyists really are kind of lawyers are associated with law firms. It's a, it's a city run by white shoe law firms, just is. And they always have a couple or three people that are the most powerful lawyers in town. Like I said, Edwin Bennett Williams was a famous one. Of course. Bob Strauss, Jim Baker, when Baker was at, of course he, I guess he was technically in Texas. But one of these power lawyers, President Trump put a shot across the bow of the law firms that he's going to start with Perkins Coy. But it's not going to stop there. And taking their, stripping their security clearances, yes, does limit it, but it means a whole lot more particularly when they get into a review and an assessment of whether they should have government working, cut them off from government work. They're kind of done. Very choppy day all around in global capital markets. We're going to have Will Upton is going to talk about this magnificent speech and then Q and A by our own Scott Bessant. The secretary of treasury couldn't be prouder of how he's presenting the case was just unbelievable. Today at the Economic Club of New York, Larry Kudlow did the q&a. Birchgold.com Go check out the end of the dollar empire. More importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team about why gold has been a hedge for 5,000 years on man's recorded history. Or take your phone out and text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. Get the free brochure how to Invest in gold in the Era of Trump. The ultimate guide from Birch Gold. Back in a moment. While we may have won this election, the fight to restore our great nation is only beginning. Now is the time to take a stand and Patriot Mobile is leading the charge. Only America's Christian conservative wireless provider, Patriot Mobile offers a way to vote with your wallet without compromising on quality or convenience. Patriot Mobile isn't just about providing exceptional cell phone service. It's a call to action to defend our rights and our freedoms. With Patriot Mobile, you'll get outstanding nationwide coverage because they operate on all three major networks. If you have a cell phone service today, you can get cell phone service with Patriot Mobile with a coverage guarantee. But the difference is every dollar you spend supports the first and Second Amendments, the sanctity of life in our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their 100%. US based customer service support team will help you find the perfect plan. Now. Right now, go to patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot. So call 972 Patriot or go to patriotmobile.com Bannon. You get a free month of service. That's a free month with promo code Bannon. Switch to Patriot Mobile today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. Visit patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot. Remember, you get a free month of service. Do it today.

Natalie Winters (30:09)

Immigration agents will now arrest migrant families with children as part of the country's mass deportations. The new operation targets adults and children who enter the country country together and have deportation orders. After the families are arrested, they'll go to a detention center before they're moved. The Department of Homeland Security and ICE have not commented yet on this new information.

Steve Bannon (30:34)

Okay, Art Del Quinto joins us, former Border Patrol President of the Union in Arizona and of course, national president of sector presidents, many times recently retired. Art? Number one, they've announced a couple days ago that the border is technically secured. You know, jd, the vice president went down, said the walls can be done by 2029, but only 800 or 8,000, I think, came across in February versus 400,000 in the month of December of 2023. What is your assessment of what we're saying just on the border and the crossings part? Not. Not the interdiction of the cartel and not the. And not the mass deportations.

H (31:13)

So, look, the numbers have gone down, but you know what, you've been around for quite some time. You've seen the border issues forever, right? So we know. We knew the numbers were gonna go down when President Trump took over office just on rhetoric alone. They went down in 2016 on rhetoric alone. Day one, the numbers stopped, the people stopped coming across, just like day one of the Biden administration was when you started seeing your first 300, 400 in groups of 500.

Mike Lindell (31:39)

But.

H (31:39)

So you knew the numbers were going to go down. I think it's fantastic that they're going down and they're continuing to drop even lower because that gives the agents the ability to be out of the processing centers and now actually be in remote areas where there's drugs coming into the country, you know, each and every day. And they're going to, let's face it, the cartels, they've made billions of dollars, so they're going to do everything they can to be creative and continue making money, even during these next several years.

Steve Bannon (32:09)

Okay. Talking about the cartels, you know, Pete Hexith has 12,000 combat troops or combat logistics on the border, including Stryker Brigades. We've got CIA Reapers flying over Mexico, northern Mexico. We know that we have air assets doing targeting exercises. President Trump's been very vocal. Tom Holman, a guy I know you know very well, has said President Trump's mission is to eradicate the cartels. Do you think President Trump's preparing to go kinetic in Mexico against the cartel? Sir?

H (32:43)

I think. I think there's going to be a lot of back and forth, and there's going to have to be some cooperation from the Mexican government. They're moving forward with the right steps. Obviously, they're talking about putting some of their own troops on the border to detain some of these, you know, cartels and the business that they're working on. But for years, you got to remember, for years, the cartels have controlled that southern border. They had drones that were constantly coming into the United States. They were gathering intel. They don't have a budget that they have to work with. They've made billions, obviously, so they're very well equipped. A lot of those troops that are out there that are the cartel members were military themselves. And now they've left and now they're working with the cartels. So we're not dealing with just a run of the mill cartel guy that you see in some of these narco movies. A lot of these individuals, they know what they're doing. You know, even the cartels, their children, they've gone to school in the United States in Ivy League schools. So they've run everything like a business. So we have to, you know, be able to utilize every tool at our disposal to make sure that we can interrupt the drug trade and go after these cartel members.

Steve Bannon (33:49)

Now, if you were in the room with Tom Homan and the President, what would be the one or two things vis a vis the cartels and really shutting them down that you would recommend?

H (34:00)

I would definitely go after southbound operations. I think we're doing the right thing on intercepting everything that's coming into the United States. But you got to start interrupting their money flow. And the way you do that is you start hitting up some of the southbound operations. At the same time, you start looking at what ties family members from Mexican cartels have in the United States and see what bank accounts they have. The law is 10,000. You can't take more than 10,000 south. You can't. Can't take more than 10,000 north. Right. But as we've seen many times, even the drug mules and the smugglers, they knew more or less what the limit was on where they got prosecuted and they don't get prosecuted. I think everything should be on the table and we should go after their money. That's where it's going to really make a difference.

Steve Bannon (34:46)

Art, we open this with a cold open. About now the president's determined that the ICE and the deportations are going to be bifamily unit. You understand? That's going to create a firestorm on the left. They're going to use this against cnn, is going to have a camera in every family that gets deported. What are your thoughts and observations about that?

H (35:06)

Look, it doesn't matter what we do at this point, what Trump does. Their hatred towards Trump is just way bigger than their love for this country. And you know, they're going to attack it either way. Look, they talk about separation of families. That's been their soapbox for a long time now. Families are being kept together. You know, it's unfortunate that there's individuals that decided to come into the country illegally and bringing and they exposed their children to that. But now those people are gonna get deported. And in order to get deported, they're gonna have to go back and the children are staying with the families. That's what they've been asking for all along. You know, I say it, and I've said it a billion times. I've said it through my social media, and I say it in many interviews. Illegal is not a race. People need to understand that. And, you know, there's a lot of individuals that have broken the law, and unfortunately, a lot of individuals are going to suffer because of the laws that were broken by parents and guardians that brought these children with them.

Steve Bannon (36:04)

Art, no, you got to bounce. What's your social media? People want to follow you where they go, sir.

H (36:08)

Thank you. I'm on Instagram more than anything else. The official Instagram page is Artel Cueto. Official Instagram. I'm doing some kind of. I'm doing something on X once in a while, but I'm still trying to get the hang of that one. But Instagram is where I'm always at. And honestly, people can DM me through Instagram. I do my best to answer everyone that asks me any questions as well.

Steve Bannon (36:30)

All right, thank you very much. Honor to have you on here.

Tom Homan (36:32)

Thank you.

Steve Bannon (36:34)

One of the best. I got a cold open. We're going to go from the border to Wisconsin, an incredibly important race on April 1st. Let's play the cold open. We're going to bring in the GOP chairman. Next month, voters will decide the balance of power on Wisconsin's Supreme Court. But according to a Newmarket Law School poll, voters are largely unfamiliar with the candidates. 40% say they don't know enough about Waukesha County Judge Brad Schimmel. More than half don't have an opinion on Dane County Judge Susan Crawford. But that trend breaks when it comes to the issues. Voters have strong opinions on abortion, voter ID laws in Act 10, all issues that are either currently before the court or expected to be heard by justices. Brian Schreine joins us now, the head of the gop. You've been pretty good about calling Wisconsin and what you needed to do to win, sir. So you got a pretty good track record. A lot of folks I know that are very concerned about the direction of country, say that this election on April 1st of the Supreme Court judge is all important. Why is this, why is an election for a judge up in Wisconsin? Why does it have national implications, sir?

Eric Bolling (37:47)

No question, you're right, Steve, and I'll tell you why. We have a seven member court here in Wisconsin. It's four to three liberal right now. If we win this seat on April 1st, a couple weeks from now, it will flip to four to three conservative. If we don't do that, it will be liberal for about the next three years. So all the big reform reforms we've done in this state, school choice, charter schools, Scott Walker's Act 10 union reforms, which, as you know, Steve, put 100,000 protesters downtown for weeks because public employee unions hated it. But also another big issue, and one that really strikes at the heart of it right now, is that the liberals on the court. Well, I'm telling you, if the liberals on the court will accept a case against the sitting congressional maps that we've been operating under the last four years, right now, Republicans have a 6 to 2 majority in Wisconsin congressional delegation. If the liberal gets elected on April 1st here in Wisconsin, two of those seats will be gone. They will redo the Supreme Court will redo that map and draw Congress. Congressman Derek Van Orden out in western Wisconsin, who we got elected a couple of years back and reelected last year, will draw him out of his very competitive seat and also go after Congressman style down in southeast Wisconsin. So literally, Steve, the implications of this Supreme Court race will reach clear to the House of Representatives.

Steve Bannon (39:33)

You're telling me, actually, because everybody is quite nervous about Hakeem Jeffries. They've already said the first act they will do upon taking the House in 2026 or winning in 26, taking in 27 in January, is to impeach President Trump. You're saying right now that's in the balance because we only hold it by a couple of seats. You're saying, hey, if we lose this Chief justice vote in Wisconsin, that they could redraw the map and we'd basically be close to a tie even before we start the campaign season, sir.

Eric Bolling (40:05)

That's right, Steve. Look, even this week, in the last 48 hours, a member, regrettably a member, passed away in office, a new member. So the House always changes by a couple of seats every cycle anyway. Think of two seats in one state alone. I mean, think about it this way, Steve. If we were talking about a special election somewhere, you know, out in Hogsbread South Dakota or something where there was a Republican seat. If it was open right now, we'd be pouring $20 million into it to save it. And if there were two seats or three seats, we may have two seats right here in Wisconsin alone just by this Supreme Court election. That's why this election in Wisconsin on April 1st has national implications. It could mean flipping control of the House and impeachment resolution against Donald J. Trump.

Steve Bannon (41:06)

So here's what concerned me when I this is why my staff got a great cold open. The name recognition of both of these must not be very high. 40% of the folks in Wisconsin don't really recognize they have very strong opinions about the issues, but they don't really know the individual. So how is this race being run right now?

Eric Bolling (41:25)

Right now it's a good race, actually. So the conservative candidate, Brad Schimmel, is a former attorney general, but he has been out of office for about seven years. So he's got residual name id. She is a Dane county based judge. As you know, Steve, I'm an actual Republican from Madison, Wisconsin and apparently Berkeley wasn't available. And so, so, so here you've got, you know, candidates who had some name ID before our candidate and showed up well there. But she's, you know, we got outgunned drastically two years ago. That's not happening now in terms of the ad spend, a lot of the independent groups are in now. A lot of folks going door to door here at the state party. We got an army out there on the doors around the state. Third party groups are in as well. So it's a whole different race than two years ago. But the, but the central fact remains the same and that is folks like Eric Holder who has endorsed the liberal in this race, by the way, big spread Eric Holder has been in here. All the left wingers have been in here because they knew, they know it's two congressional seats. They know it's Act 10, one of the biggest reforms in Wisconsin's history. So there's I always, I was, I've been traveling the state a lot on the weekends like I did when the presidential race when Donald Trump was, was on the ballot here and we were happy to flip it to a red state for Donald Trump. The But I will tell you as I travel the state, there's, it's a Supreme Court race, it's an off year race. And so there's not a lot of attention. But I will tell you whether you're watching in Wisconsin or watching anywhere in the country, this race is easily as important as a governor's race, because one person on the Supreme Court will either make it liberal or conservative. And you could see 30 years of Republican conservative reforms like school choice, like Act 10, and two congressional seats disappear because of one race on April 1st in Wisconsin.

Steve Bannon (43:44)

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Eric Bolling (45:25)

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Steve Bannon (45:30)

Brian Shimming joins me, the head of the GOP of Wisconsin. Sir, I had you on, actually, before I went to federal prison early in the summer. And you walked us through when it was all in the balance. And you walked us through exactly what had to happen for President Trump to win Wisconsin. And guess what? We executed. We had you on election night. It had been executed. What has to happen? You're pretty good at calling this. So tell me what has to happen in Wisconsin to make sure that we ensure that we keep a conservative or really flip it to being a conservative. Court 4 to 3 from now to we start counting the votes, what has to happen?

Eric Bolling (46:06)

I think it's coming on your show because I was on the show live with you the first day you came back. So I was proud to do that and to highlight this race across the country. Look, with Donald Trump, I'd always tell crowds, look, the people out there are with us like they were with us on Donald Trump. The people out there are with us, but we have to go get them. For conservatives or Republican folks or whatever who sit around waiting for voters to come to them, it doesn't work that way. And that's why Donald Trump was so effective in Wisconsin, is because he went out all over the state. I was with him several times and we sent the organizational people out there and our allies to go door to door to talk to people. The mistake that Republicans make sometimes is not making it clear who's for what and who isn't with the people. When people vote in court races or judicial races, attorney general races, they want to know that you're going to put the bad guys in the slammer, that good people are going to be on the street and that people get a fair shot. That's the case here. The liberal in this race, Steve, Susan Crawford, the liberal judge from Dane county, is one of the most liberal people ever to run for the court here in Wisconsin. But what do liberals do all the time? You know, they'll put in their advertising a picture of them or video of them with some cop next to a squad car to try to fool people into thinking that's what Schimmel is doing. By the way, with Schimmel, he's got 880 current and former sheriffs in this state behind him. You know how many she's got, Steve?

Steve Bannon (47:54)

One, one.

Eric Bolling (47:56)

And there's a reason for that. He's a former tough attorney general. She is a liberal judge here in Dane County. So the messaging has to be clear about who's the conservative and who's the liberal. The Schimmel campaign gets that across in this state. And to your point, if everyone does their job and going out, Donald Trump got about 1. And you know that Donald Trump got about 1.7 million votes here in Wisconsin. In winning a very, very close race, we get about 60, 65% of that and we're gonna take over the Supreme Court. So my message to people across this country, for those in Wisconsin, show up, vote early. For folks around the country, if, you know people in Wisconsin, get to them. Because you mentioned the poll earlier, while they didn't do a top line number in that poll, as you showed earlier, they did a bunch of other issues. But the truth is, in a court Race or an AG race. It's about law enforcement. It's about people's safety. When people know the difference between these two candidates, if we get to them between now and the 1st of April, Brad Shimmel will win. But as I said to the president, I think I discussed on your show as one of the first state chairs in the country to push early vote. And when I talked to the president, president about it, I said, look, I love voting at the firehouse. Like everybody know, I love the election day tradition of voting at the firehouse. You know what I like more? Winning. Winning. And that's why to go voter.

Steve Bannon (49:37)

Brian, where they go? What's a website they go to find out more information. We got a big nationwide audience here. And where they follow you on social media, sir?

Eric Bolling (49:45)

They can go to our website, Wisgop. Wisgop.org they can follow me on X at Brian Shimming. B R I A N S C H I M M I N G Good old German name from Wisconsin and the same on Instagram. So this is literally, Steve, this is hand to hand Combat clear to 8:00 on Tuesday, April 1st. No doubt about it.

Steve Bannon (50:14)

Wow. Love you, brother. We're going to pile into this one. We'll have you back on shortly. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Brian knows how to win in Wisconsin. He shows the path. President Trump won. President Trump's President, United States. You like that, right? This, this race is very important, particularly think downrange. You take two congressmen away from Wisconsin and put them to Democrats, we got a problem. Mike Lindell, I'm sitting here reading, you know, today, I just want to remind you, brother, I went to federal prison, not a camp. I went to a federal prison on a contempt charge. It was a misdemeanor, but they sent me to a prison, a federal prison on contempt charge. Now, on that contempt charge, I did withhold it on matter of principle because I didn't think Nancy Pelosi actually had jurisdiction given separation of powers, which the Supreme Court, the appellate court is still not ruled on. Mike, I read that they're trying to hold you in contempt for something, sir. Please don't let it happen. Don't let's lose. Mike Lindell.

Mike Lindell (51:15)

Yeah, this is with smartmatic, the voting machine company. Smartmatic. And we withheld nothing. Steve, I'm full disclosure, remember? They're the ones that won't let us see what's inside the machine. I'm full disclosure. I give the courts everything. So this judge made this ruling that I didn't give my 22 or 23 tax returns to him. I'll show it to the whole nation. They got it. And so we don't understand what the judge. Why the judge said this. We've given them everything. I tell my lawyers, don't hold anything back. I have nothing to hide. I'm the most transparent person you ever seen. Boom, there it is. And once again, Steve, this is an attack. This is a court in Minnesota. This is an attack on me. It goes right along with the IRS. The IRS audits that are going on all the way through 23 and stuff that they're attacking me for. Why doesn't one just stand the other one if you're missing it? But they. I'm not holding anything back, Steve. It's just another attack. And I put it on the pile. It was great to hear from ABC today because I told them I'm never giving up until our elections are secure. So I was able to get that word out again. And so they were the. I've been called all day by the media today again.

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