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Episode 4340: MAGA reclaiming The Arts; Dismantling The Lefts Hold On The EPA
Episode 4340: MAGA reclaiming The Arts; Dismantling The Lefts Hold On The EPA ...
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Caesar
It is performed.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Sit on, and leave no ceremony out. Who calls? Let every noise be still. Be kill again. Who is it in the press that calls on me? I hear a tongue, shriller than all the music cries Caesar. Speak. Caesar is turned to hear. Beware of the ides of March. What man is that? A soothsayer bids you beware the ides of March. Set him before me. Let me see his face. Hello. Come from the throng. Look upon Caesar. What say'st thou to me now?
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Mike Rogers
Speak once again.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Beware the ides of Mars. Watch. He is a dreamer. Let us leave him Pass.
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Mark Antony
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. The evil that men do lives after them. The good is often turned with their bones. So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus hath told you Caesar was ambitious. If it were so, it was a grievous fault. And grievously hath Caesar answered it. Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest. For Brutus is an honourable man. So are they all, all honorable men. Come I to speak in Caesar's funeral. He was my faithful and just to me. But Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is an honorable man. He hath brought many captives home to Rome, whose ransoms did the general coffers fill. Did this in Caesar seem ambitious? When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is an honourable man. You all did see that on the Lupercal I thrice presented him a kingly crown, which he did thrice refuse. Was this ambition? Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, and sure, he is an honorable man. I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke, but here I am to speak what I do know. You all did love him once, not without cause. What cause withholds you then to mourn for him? O judgment. Thou art fled to brutish beasts. And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar.
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cause we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about. The people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Mike Rogers
And where do people like that go.
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Stephen K. Bannon
To share the big lie?
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Mike Rogers
Maga media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Mike Rogers
War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Saturday the 15th of March. Year overlord 2025. It's the ides of March. And that's our tribute annually the last couple of years for the. For the assassination of Julius Caesar, I don't know, over 2,000 years ago. Of course, it's relevant in that if you saw the meltdown last night, we'll get to play all the media. Not just about the meltdown, regarding Schumer's surrender on the Schumer shutdown, but also President Trump, President Trump going to the Justice Department. I told you what they were going to say. It was a desecration. So desecration. They were using that term all last night on CNN and msnbc. You know, the three things besides the Capitol, it's the Kennedy center and the Justice Department. It's like Trump's people are unworthy to set foot in there. Ever since we seized control of the Kennedy center, you know, all these groups, you know, the Hamilton guys have quit. All these other musical groups have quits because Rick Cornell's canceled some of the more un American and unappetizing programming. There's been a bunch of pushback. We told you that that was like their high church, the deep state that runs Washington, D.C. and J.D. takes his wife. The other night, Vice President of the United States goes to see a concert, Philharmonick concert, and he's booed, and I mean booed loudly by this pack of jackals, is what they are. Grinnell comes out with a very nice statement that diversity is our strength. I think that was a heckle, but a very nice statement how they're not going to tolerate that kind of behavior, et cetera, et cetera. The other temple they have in the imperial capital is the main justice. And President Trump, according to them, desecrated that, desecrated that temple yesterday. And he threw down hard. If you look at the work that's unfinished. And he said, and I hope these investigations are underway. I think they are. I hope they are, because he gave him a big, you know, a big writ to go through as the chief magistrate. We had John Yoo on yesterday, the great public intellectual about all things legal. And he talked about the end of Watergate. Remember Jeff Shepard, we've had on here a couple of times, has these two books about the real Watergate, what really went on at Watergate and it's not Woodward and Bernstein running around. And when you see that Deep Throat, in case you're not totally up on it, that was the deputy. That was the deputy of the FBI, Mark Felt. That would be Dan Bongino and Dan Bongino's last broadcast. If you didn't see it, you should. There's a great clip up there. Dan saying goodbye, at least for now, to his audience, as he steps in Monday. I'm sure he's there today, but Dan officially will be there on Monday. Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino's billet deputy was Mark Felt. That was Deep Throat, and he gave him a lot of inside information. I mean, essentially what those guys came with was almost nothing. I mean, the movie's fantastic, the book, but it's. I'm not saying it's dramatized, but they came with nothing. Shepard walks through it was the same way they're trying to get Trump a judicial insurrection. It was what Judge Sirica and lawyers from the House committee and lawyers at DOJ working together, they actually did a thing called a roadmap. Since that time in the legislation and the executive orders that came around post Watergate was hermetically sealed off the Justice Department from the Office of the Presidency. This fight, and it is a fight, is this unitary theory of the executive, the unitary executive theory, which in the executive branch and what its powers are, particularly given the other branch, even inside the executive branch itself, away from and over the administrative state, in the deep state. That's what this fight is. Now these judges are siding with the administrative state. It's both the Doge guys, what they're finding, plus ombudsman and other department heads are trying to downsize there because you can't fight. It's not sustainable. It's not even a question whether it's sustainable or not. And we're being fought in the courts nonstop. And these court fights are not going to get solved quickly. This is what John, you said. In fact, McGinley and others say to delay is to deny executive action as laid out by Alexander and Hamilton is with dispatch, with urgency, with energy. That's the whole purpose of the executive in our constitutional structure. They're trying to dissipate that energy. The administrative state will make the decisions whether. And those rulings are in San Francisco. They cover the whole nation, whether it's in Maryland. Cover the whole nation. President Trump's going after, as we said, the root cause of this or the one of the biggest parts of the instrumentality to control and rule the imperial capital. That's the big law firms. And he's just doing with executive orders today. The WHARAM engine room has done a great job of talking about these law firms almost like private equity firms now. And the law firms have to be taken apart, root and branch. I'm sorry. Oh, they're saying, well, you're going to take people's livelihoods away. You cannot have. The connective tissue of the deep state is the law firms. These big, powerful law firms in Washington, D.C. these white shoe law firms are the prominent law firms. Covington and Burley being one. And Mark Elias and Bob Bowers shop or former shop for Elias Perkins Coy. That's the one the president has gone after first. And he's basically taking their. He's not shy about saying, taking their livelihood away because he is and he is on a, you know, he's on a crusade here to break the deep state, to break the administrative state, and particularly to break the legal stranglehold. And last night, as I predicted, it was nonstop. And they really tried to play the Schumer stuff off to the side as much as they can because I told you it was going to be soul crushing. And it was. And the activists were absolutely beyond themselves apoplectic about what Schumer had done to keep Trump's government open. Just absolutely incredible, incredible day of victories for President Trump. We had the victory with the Catholic, the holy Catholic men and women at the abortion center not put in prison again by the state of New Jersey. You had President Trump sign an amazing executive order, really tightening down on security with I think, over 40 countries of WHO can come in, who can't come out. President Trump's not messing around every day. I mean, it's another bomb, you know, something that would take a week's news cycle, which just does it in the afternoon. The Justice Department was very symbolic. This is his saying, hey, I'm chief executive officer of the government, I'm commander in chief of the armed forces, and I'm the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the United States government. As my role by the Constitution. Hey, if I want to come over to the Justice Department and talk to folks, I'm going to come over to the Justice Department and talk to folks. And not just that, I think I'll throw down why I'm here. How about a throwdown? And he threw down hard, talking about everything that had gone on, because out of that Adam Main justice came the plan to put him in prison for hundreds of years, to die in prison, essentially. And don't think for a second they would have not taken that through to its ultimate. That's how big this victory was. If it hadn't been for the victory, they were going to keep going. Even though they had been turned away by the courts, they were going to keep going. They're relentless, and I think you're seeing President Trump's relentlessness, because yesterday was a historic moment. We're going to get to that. We're going to break down Schumer also. What they're doing, running around the country, going to go into red districts or adjacent to red districts and try to jet up these big kind of grassroots town halls. They're a gun deck with Democratic operatives. But people have to understand that doesn't matter. They're going to do. That's what they do. We have to figure out how to combat that. One way is to support President Trump is now we get down to the now that he has funding for the rest of this fiscal year is to get down to this massive kind of tax and spending bill, plus the appropriations for 2026. The hard part, we're going to have the Doge part, and I think Doge is going to start coming forward with a little more stringent accounting so we know exactly how much is in waste, fraud and abuse. We're not kidding ourselves. And how much actually has to be taken out. Programmatically, you have to do that. We have to have a massive cut, I think $500 billion minimum out of the 26 budget. That means out of the six and a half trillion, you gotta cut 500 billion. Good luck with that. But we gotta do it. Okay, we are jammed today. Taj Gould's gonna join me. Dave Walsh, remember the predicate for the economy now that we had a big day yesterday in the market, but things are gonna go back and forth in the market. It is underlying an industrial advanced industrial society is cheap, plentiful energy that's there all the time. Short commercial break we're going to be back in the war room in just a moment. You wish you could have invested in the stock market last year, when investors scored the highest profits in decades. But between that mountain of bills and credit card debt, you had nothing, and I mean nothing left over. It's time to stop letting debt hold you back. Let me tell you how done with debt can help. 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We're going to be packed today talking about the geopolitics, the economy, and the Democratic response to all this. Walsh is going to walk us through. Remember, our theory of the case here is you've got to have a really intelligent energy plan that provides cheap and plentiful and unabated energy for an industrial society. Walsh gonna be here. But first, I want to get jacked up, brother. Taj Gil Warpath coffee. I particularly Saturdays. Saturdays I get a little jump start. We stay up later on Fridays than we normally do normally in the rack quite early in the war room for our early morning rising. Always stay up Friday a little too late. Need warpath. Why is warpath. Why is warpath so perfect in that you don't need cream of sugar? Explain to people your process because I'm really proud you kind of came at this as a. As, I don't know, can I say it? A gunman defending your country in places far and wide. How did you come about coffee? And how did you come about making it so great?
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Taj Gill
Yeah. Good morning, Steve. We're doing T shirts, and my T shirt company got banned on Facebook for being conservative. So I've been tinkering with the idea of doing coffee, so.
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, come on, come on. Stop. Hold it. Stop. Stop. Stop whining. Stop whining. Stop. Don't whine. Taish, you're not a whiner. His. His. His T shirt, his T shirt company got behemoth Navy seal, but they got banned because they were saying bad things about Hillary Clinton. Correct. And tying her back to, I don't know, Benghazi and other things where they had let down your community. Correct. That's where you get banned by Zuckerberg.
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Taj Gill
Hillary Clinton killed my friends. T shirts, and we sold tons of them. And the whole thing was hinged upon marketing on Facebook. And during the 2020 election, they banned us on Facebook and definitely suspended our advertising accounts. So I've been wanting to do coffee for a while. So before we shut the T shirts down, I tried this coffee and it took off on the T shirt company. So I shut it down. And then the coffee. I've told you this before, but in the SEAL teams, you know, we had all the best equipment and I wanted to have the best coffee. I didn't want to just have some off the shelf burnt coffee that was acidic and all that stuff. So it took a long time to make each roast. We roast them on a perforated drum. We small batch roast it. So we just do one batch at a time. We're not roasting 24 hours a day like the big guys. And the reason it tastes so good that you can drink it black is because we don't burn it at all. We caramelize the beans. We basically turn them like a golden brown instead of a black. There's no. The acidity is not there. Like most coffee, I would say nine out of 10 coffees you drink, you're going to have that metallic, that burnt, metallic, acidic taste in there. And that's why when you get coffee, they serve it with milk and sugar, because that, that's the normal. So we're not the normal coffee. We're. We're perfectly roasted coffee. We caramelize it and we got. We've got a breakfast blend which is like super, super smooth. It's basically like a donut shop coffee. I put a little bit of French roast in there to give it a little bit of extra flavor. And then the Mariners blend, of course, we made that for you, Steve, because you're a dark roast guy. So we did that. And that is our best seller, the Mariners Blend. And I called it Mariners Blend because you and I are both in the Navy. So that's why. That's where the Mariner thing came from. And then, you know, we've got K cups now. We've got the chocolate, vanilla. We've got all sorts of stuff. We're actually. I've been talking about this for about a month, trying to release the decaf. The decaf actually roasted yesterday, so we should have that sometime next week on our website. And we're also dropping salted caramel.
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Stephen K. Bannon
The one, the one, the one, the one fight Tasia and I have had about the company is going, what's the purpose of decaf with this great coffee. The coffee gets you jacked up. But I understand certain people later in the day want to have a great cup of coffee and not have the caffeine that will keep them up. So it's so tastes. And you've launched the decaf. You launched the decaf.
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Taj Gill
It's going to be on the site next week. We roasted it yesterday, so now it's got to get packaged and then we'll have it on the site next week. Finally. The problem is we keep, we keep selling through this coffee so fast. So whenever one of a launch something new, it gets pushed to the back burner because we got to keep roasting the stuff we're already selling. And that is greatly in part to the War Room Posse. You know that we have 7,400 plus five star reviews on our website now. Let's say a great majority of them are from the war. The War Room Posse. It's people. People love this coffee. It's crazy. We have, we have a huge customer return rate. Like I heard some Google marketing guys and they couldn't believe it. They thought they were like, no way. So it's going great. We're not selling a crappy product, but the product is top notch. That's the deal.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yes. The best. Where do people go today? I want them to read the reviews. I want to become part of this. This coffee is very special to our heart. We took a year and a half. I think this is Taj and his team. But a year and a half to get the dark roast ready. They're perfectionists. So where do folks go? I want people to enjoy this and become part of it. So where they go?
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Taj Gill
Yep. So you go to Warpath Coffee is the website and the promo code is War Room. That's for the War room posse. It's 20% and it fluctuates during. During holidays. We'll crank it up, but it's 20% right now. So Warpath Dog Coffee and then use promo code. War Room. Oh yeah, one more thing. We just found a box of these. The free Steve Bannon mugs. We were reorganizing the warehouse and yeah, we found like 70 of them in a big box. So I put those up on the site yesterday. So if you want some of those, grab them.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Worse.
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Taj Gill
Free Steve Bannon mugs.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Worse. Worse inventory management than the Pentagon. Where he comes out of. Now we need Doge go on the side. Okay, one Doge. I'm gonna stick Doge on you. What? One more time. Where do people go? Sir?
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Taj Gill
Where do people go, the website is Warpath Coffee and use promo code war room, get 20% off your order.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
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Taj Gill
And it's Warpath Coffee promo code worm. And if you haven't tried it, try it out. It's. People love it. All you got to do is read the reviews. It's real reviews. They're not paid.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yep. Thank you. Gun range today, but yes, sir.
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Taj Gill
Good job on Gavin Newsom's podcast. I watched that earlier this morning. It was pretty good. That was awesome. That was a great interview.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you. I was trying. I was trying to be framed. We're going to play Jane Fonda. Hanoi Jane didn't think so. So we're going to play Hanoi Jane. Later in the show, she had a few comments. Few. She had some observations.
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Taj Gill
Nice.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, sir. Taj Gill, gunman for the United States Navy, Navy seal. Thank you, brother. Great guy. Let's play. I got a clip, a short clip regarding President Trump and energy. And then Dave Walsh is with us. What I'm very happy with is oil is down to $65 a barrel and that's faster than I would have. We put on the gas, we stepped in the gas in order to get oil, and that's what's happening. So we're getting that down. When energy comes down, prices are going to be coming down with it. So in a very short period of time, we've done a very good job. Dave Walsh, your theory, the case and ours have been to get a robust industrial economy. Energy is the foundational element. How's our president doing, sir?
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Caesar
He's doing fantastic. Couple of things. Yeah. That's translating the per barrel cost is coming right through to gas costs already. We got nationally 3 bucks 3 cents a gallon average, the lowest March since the pandemic. Gas cost at the pump, 37 cents less than year on year ago and 9 cents less than a month ago. So already massive impact at the pump with gasoline costs. The second thing in the past week, couple of days ago, Secretary EPA, Secretary Zeldin announced 31 actions to dismantle the regulatory oversight, the regulatory overreach of both the Obama administration and the Biden administration. Most notoriously, the centerpiece being his calling for a reconsideration or study. A lot of these things need to be studied for three to four months before they can be put into action by the EPA of the Obama era. Endangerment finding. The endangerment finding in month one of the Obama administration found that CO2 was a harmful pollutant, a harmful greenhouse gas. And that's been the underpinning of all of the regulatory deep state through mainly the EPA and Interior actions to go ahead and restrict the use of gas, oil, coal in this country for power generation and restrict also for automotive and transportation use. So he's got that under study which is the heart and soul of all of these overreach actions of both administrations. And I'm predicting that's going to go away. The endangerment finding. That's a big, big deal. It's a huge deal. So we've had a great week just in those two couple of things and now vis a vis Gates commentary, you know we're seeing him begin to not his commentary.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, hang on. I'm going to get to that in a second right after the break. I want to go back. I think it's 31 states I think the 31 states that gasoline's actually got a two handle in front of it. The national average is $3 but I think there's a bunch of states where it's in the $2 high twos. But it's a $2. Is that correct?
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Caesar
Yeah. Nothing like oversupply, nothing like unleashing supply to get costs down. And you know the global we have a major impact on the global cost per barrel given when we decide to be we are the world's largest producer. We can easily get back and we are getting back to 14 billion barrels a day plus plus under the administration which has an enormous impact on global supply, also impacting global prices pricing. So this is all good news and it's happening. It's these cost benefits are passing along to American consumers of gas.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We're going to come back in a moment and talk about Russia, rapprochement, maybe an overall economic deal there, what that's going to mean for global energy, energy in Europe, all of it and also surprise, surprise with the rise of artificial intelligence. You don't you're not having your nose rubbed in net carbon zero anymore. So surprising that's kind of gone away for your betters. The oligarchs. It's inconvenient for them now to talk about climate change. Short commercial break the one, the only Dave Walsh is with us on the other side. How well do you sleep at night? Real peace of mind comes from knowing your family is prepared for anything. My Patriot Supply, America's most trusted name in emergency preparedness, is offering a Time limited discount on the best selling three month emergency food kit. Now this is the basic the three month emergency food kit. This isn't your typical survival food. Each kit provides over 2000 calories and 100% of the recommended value of 12 essential vitamins and minerals daily for 90 days with delicious meals and extras including chicken, beef, fruits and veggies. We're talking quality meals that last up to 25 years in storage and still taste like home cooked. The pandemic taught us how quickly store shelves can empty. Don't wait for the next crisis. Your three month emergency food kit includes free shipping, a disaster replacement warranty and 24,7 US based customer support. This special discount is available for a limited time only. Visit my patriotsupply.com now to secure your family's future with a hundred dollar discount. If you order by 3pm they'll ship your order within the same day. So you have peace of mind right away. Get my Patriotsupply.com by going to my Patriotsupply.com do it, do it today. Use your agency. Action, Action, Action.
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Mike Rogers
To Putin in the last days or hours personally.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, I don't want to say it, but we are dealing with him and I think, I think it's going reasonably well. It's a very complex situation. You know, it's just, it's a, it's a bloody terrible war and I do think it's going well. As you know, we have a ceasefire agreement with the Ukrainian group and we are trying to get that with Russia too. And I think thus far it's gone okay. We'll know a little bit more on Monday and that'll be hopefully good. Dave, I'm going to bring Dave Walsh back in a moment because I want to talk about the geopolitics of this Russian situation because that's going to lead to a discussion of energy going forward. The great Dave Walsh is an expert on all things European and Russian energy. So we'll get to that in a moment. We're going to bring in Mike Rogers from Michigan. Mike, you spent years working in this line of work. Give me your assessment of President Trump, the cease fire, working on the situation in Ukraine and particularly this overall rapprochement with Russia that could change the dynamic with the Persians, could clearly get things sorted over in the Eurasian landmass. What are your thoughts so far?
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, a couple of things. First of all, one of the things that was marching toward disaster for the United States was pushing Russia into the hands of China. That is just not good for us. It's not good for our national security. It's not good for our long term strategy on how we protect America and all of our interests around the world. And so we had to break this cycle, somehow we had to break this cycle. And I think President Trump did exactly that. And, you know, one of the problems was Zelenskyy's whole Persona now is this wartime president of Ukraine with no elections and all of that. And so he's having a great time. As long as those checks continue to cash. It would be really hard for him to change his thinking on this. And I believe President Trump was right in trying to get them to change their thinking. And really, sometimes the only way to get a mule's attention is, you know, the old bricks in the back, as my dad used to say. And I think that's just those bricks in the back saying, hey, pal, this is great, but you're not going to fight. You know, build your brand around our money and dead, dead human beings. And so I think this was exactly the way to kind of change the. Change the focus of this, okay?
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Stephen K. Bannon
And look, you were there at the time. You saw everything they were doing to push the elite in the imperial capital in D.C. were to push Russia into the hands of, really, the Xi and the Chinese Communist Party. You know, they are having. They had a naval exercise, the Russians, the CCP and the Persians in North Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean this week. And the criticism, people come back, Mike is saying, hey, look, that's all nice, theoretically, but there's no way they have a. What does she call it, an alliance or a partnership that knows no bounds. Are we kidding ourselves? Is there? Because this is the overall endgame. It's not about Ukraine. It's not even about the Middle east or the Persians. It's trying to have this rapprochement to break up this partnership in the Eurasian landmass. Are our critics correct when they say this is naive, it's never going to happen. And all you're doing is throwing Ukraine under the bus, and you'll end up. And you'll end up not having some diplomatic resolution with the Persians, sir.
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Mike Rogers
I mean, you never know if you're going to have a diplomatic solution with the Persians. But I think not trying is a bigger mistake. You know, one of the things about Ukraine, had we done this right to begin with, we wouldn't find ourselves here. And I was for arming Ukraine in the beginning with all the defense before Russia came across, give them the things they needed to defend themselves, make them like a porcupine, move on. We wouldn't have this problem. And I passionately believe that's true. But this kind of slow drip over time, it's been a disaster. And to say that the Russians are now dependent on the Chinese, I think is naive. People aren't thinking that Arctic natural resources exploration deal that happened right before they went into Ukraine with China, where China sells 100% of the equipment in future development of natural resources comes from China. To do that development, they got, I think, 20% of all the natural resource deals in the Arctic. Right. So China is looking very strategically and they know Russia is weak and they're certainly taking advantage of it. If China stops buying coal and stops buying oil and other things and supplying other things to Russia, they're in trouble. And so they just. Every day that marches on toward this is a day that they get closer if they want to or not. And so listen, China's pretty big. They have economic influence, military influence. Now the world's largest navy, their army is growing in sophistication. They're taking us on in space. You bet. This is a huge problem for our future. And now they've got the Iranians that they're dealing with. China is thinking long term. So what we've got to do is think long term as well. Unfortunately, that means you got to get. Well, fortunately, really, it is fortunate we get a peace deal in Ukraine. And yes, everybody's going to have to give up a little something to get it done. But you just a can't continue to pour money in there. Our European allies talk a great game, but they're not actually stepping up in the way that the US Is. And so we got to get all that right and then we'll rebuild this thing. I have no problem. Why? Because our interests will always better align at the end of the day when it comes to a rising, dangerous China. And so when they say, oh, this, it's naive, I would argue maybe they're being naive, because if you're not looking at that, what's next? And if you look at the number of times Russia, since, I don't know, the early 1900s has decided they want a piece of Ukraine, it's dozens and dozens of times. This isn't something new. This isn't a. He woke up today and thought that he should do this. So we've got to get that right. We've got to get Ukraine so they can start rebuilding and less focused on the war. They're not going to win a war of attrition. And Steve, right now, this is a war of attrition. And guess what? Ukraine is losing the war of attrition. They might not say it. Certainly the press won't cover it. They are losing this War of attrition and we can help them by forcing them into a peace deal.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You talk about, I want to go to the Arctic for a second and how this is a great power politics like the great game of the 19th century with the Russia and the British Empire do. And you're at the forefront of this and you know, you're running again for the Senate, so you're going to be front and center of this. I'm sure it's going to be a big issue in the campaign with Canada, everything that's going on with Canada. But do you think our Canadian allies, our brothers and sisters in Canada, fully understand how serious the CCP and the Russians, but particularly the ccp, of taking a bite out of northern Canada about this situation in the Arctic? Is that something that the Canadians are up to speed on how serious the Chinese Communist Party is about making the Arctic theirs? Sir?
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Mike Rogers
Yeah. So I talk to a lot of Canadians in government, out of government there. I think some days they get it and some days they don't get it. And you know, if they think short term on this and listen, we don't really want Canada as a state. I grew up in Michigan. I grew up on Canadian broadcast, you know, Channel 9 out of Windsor. It was the only thing our antenna could get for a lot of months of the year. We really don't want, we don't really want Canada as a state. They just think differently. They're great. People love them. I'm glad they're our allies. Probably don't want them in the union, but I will say that sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. And I think there's this growing understanding in Canada about what, what's at risk and what's at stakeholders. And so sometimes if you don't break some glass and break, you know, when they say in order to make an omelet you got to break some eggs, we'll never get there because China is serious and they are moving out and they are making investments in the Arctic like we've not seen before. And they're doing it with their friends in Russia that would give them waypoints along the way to refuel ships and do logistics and other things. All of that is a serious threat to the United States and our friends in the north. And so I still think there's work to do to get them fully bought in. I do think, you know, somebody was telling me, you know, trying to get people to reorient their understanding that tariffs should be fair and not one sided is like getting your crazy Uncle Earl that's been on your couch in the basement for six months. Can't understand why you would ask him that. He might want to think about, you know, getting his own place for a while. Same kind of thing. They're going to have to step up and go, okay, I get it. Our tariffs are not fair. They should be fair. Let's compete. But you can't, you know, charge American farmers 300%. It's not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Mike, one last question about Schumer.
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Mike Rogers
Looks chaotic. Yeah, go ahead.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Keep going. Keep going. No, no, keep going. We lost it for a second about.
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Mike Rogers
The terrorists, but I will tell you that it's this. There's really no way to break this cycle other than to break the cycle. And that's where I think, you know, people are kind of going through the hard part of breaking the cycle.
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Stephen K. Bannon
On the politics of it. Schumer yesterday kind of surrendered. There's been a firestorm on the grassroots base. How's that going to affect Michigan? Because Peters has announced he's not running again. I think he was one of the guys they threw in there to vote. But what's the current status of the politics there? Are they having a grassroots revolt against the Democratic Party establishment?
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Mike Rogers
There's huge problems, you know, in the west side of the state. They're putting together these huge protests for a member of Congress, their Republican member of Congress, for not having, you know, in person, town halls, even though they're showing their propensity for it to be disruptive. But it is the old 1960s Democrats coming back to life. This is exactly the party that we warned America would take over and do bad things to the country. And guess what? They're showing themselves to be exactly that. They really don't know how to deal with this. Americans wanted a smaller, more effective government that didn't cost them as much money. Guess what they're getting that they wanted peace in places like Ukraine. Guess what they're getting that the tariffs do make people nervous, don't we shouldn't fool ourselves. That absolutely does. But when you explain to them this is really about reciprocal. We're really trying to get to a place where our goods and services can be sold in other places around the world at the same rate that they are, that they pay to come into the United States. It's only fair. Boy, people start to back down a little bit, and they understand where we're going. I have faith that Donald Trump's gonna get a deal on all or most of this by the end of this year. That will absolutely Be a boon to American business, given an opportunity in markets that they really didn't have before. And so it's just walking through it. Yes, the Democrats are confused. They don't even know what to be mad at on any given day. And now they're all of a sudden worried, you know, worried about the price of eggs. Where were they? Where were they when eggs were going through the roof? Not because we had the bird flu, but because your policies made eggs so dar gone expensive.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Mike, where do people go? And find out more about. I think you've announced, right, you're running again. I have not announced.
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Mike Rogers
You're throwing your hat, talking to a lot of people. There's a decision coming up that's pretty, pretty close. But you can still get us at Rogers for U.S. senate. This is an easy place. Easy place to find us.
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Stephen K. Bannon
What was the race last time you came within how close?
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Mike Rogers
3, 10 of it? It was 48.6 to 48.3. And here's some important numbers, if I can, Steve, quickly. We got more votes than any other Michigan office candidate in the history of our state. Never been done before. And by a large number, we came as close to Trump votes than there was only one other state was even competitive with us. That was Wisconsin to the Trump voters.
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Caesar
Right.
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Mike Rogers
So these are no propensity, low propensity voters. We were closer than all of the U.S. senate candidates that won. We got closer on those numbers. And so we lost by about 18,000 out of five and a half million votes cast. And that's why I think so many people have picked up the phone and said, hey, you really need to do this. This is our chance, our time. And we need somebody who can articulate why Trump is doing what he's doing in the face of what the Democrats are trying to do is distort that record at home, tell people their world's coming to an end when and actually I think their future and their kids future is going to get better.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Mike, one more time, social media. We got to bounce, but give us your social media and your website.
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Mike Rogers
The website rogersforsenate.com is still up and running, so please go there. And that's probably the best place to get us. We're not an announced candidate yet, but we're certainly thinking about it and having lots of really important conversations.
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Caesar
You know, it's curious. One has already happened without being, not a formal one. The Russians joining OPEC as opec. They kneecapped OPEC completely. When this war started by brokering down the cost of their exported oil into Western Europe. There wasn't really a boycott. There was a $60 cap, largely an appeasement to Germany placed on Russian oil exported into Western Europe. So it's continued. And actually Russia to this moment is the largestremains, the largest exporter of natural gas into Western Europe at this moment in time. So that'sthey helped NICAP OPEC with the turning on them when this war began by slashing prices to meet that cap level. That was called a boycott level, but it's not really a boycott level. And Representative Mike, exactly correct. I mean, the worst impact of this egregious support for the Ukraine monetarily by this country has been forcing Putin together with China for the talking now aggressively about building two pipelines into China natural gas, that which China lacks. China lacks natural gas. They are going to get it from Iran without question in their Belt and Road initiative, but they don't need to get it from Russia via pipeline. Pipeline capacity has to be reconstructed mightily into Western Europe. You've got a thousand years of dependence by Western Europe on Russian pipeline gas coming. It's a fact of life because LNG transported even at present $4.50 per decotherm natural gas. The price of exporting it by LNG doubles the cost of it. There is no fungible long term solution of Australia, Qatar, the US shipping LNG to Europe. It's got to come cost effectively from neighboring Russia. The cost of pipeline gas is half the cost of LNG shipped gas. So they're wetted at the hip. We've got to get the dependency, the economic codependency reconstructed rapidly so that they rejoin the illegitimate trade, if you will not hiding under this artificial 60 buck cap that turns out to be an inducement only to cut the price of that which we now know Western Europe is fundamentally embedded to, and that is fossil fuels has been made naked and pulled out of the closet. Western Europe has been Fundamentally dependent on fossil fuels this entire time of their supposed transition to wind, solar and storage.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hypocrisy. I just want to make sure that because you're inundated on the news every day, the reality is they're still dependent upon Russia. Natural gas. That's still what's underpinning what Europe's got today. Correct.
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Caesar
Essentially, Russia is the single largest importer of natural gas into Western Europe in the world today. Today, and has been throughout the time of this war. And God bless President Trump for mentioning his State of the Union message a week ago that in the time of the war, the Europeans have paid Putin $234 billion. Paid, not lent. Paid $234 billion for oil, gas, coal and uranium during the war. Two and a half times more than they have lent Zelenskyy. So when you really look at whose side they're on, their badging of whose side they're on, follow the money. I'm not sure they're on Zelenskyy's side, but yet they come over here and claim we should be. It's. When you look at the energy fund flow, it's duplicitous.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So, no, and I just also want to make. They've also thrown under. Because even Germany's doing this now. They've also are starting to throw off the shackles of this fantasy about net carbon zero, have they not, sir?
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Caesar
They are. They have to. They have to. Germany's industrial economy is based on manufacturing steel, autos, chemicals, big, big product there, machine tools. You can't make those things without emitting some large notion of carbon. And they recognize that you need massive electricity. So what they've done in the last 10 years, well, they've tried to fake getting onto renewables, wind, most notoriously, is import huge quantities of coal power from Poland, from Hungary, nuclear power from France, even bigger, and gas and oil from Russia that has sustained their industrial economy. That's now been the fact of the Russian dependence, which again, President Trump pointed out, out in his UN Message, singling them out six years ago was exactly correct. They are inconceivably tied to the Russian oil supply. And that'syou know, we might as well make that, put that out on the table and get this whole situation resolved based on them. The Germans, who have not followed one US Boycott since the war, Willy Brandt era, they're not really an ally on this unbelievable the price gap thing.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Dave, just hang on, because I want to get the reason. One of the underpinning reasons that they've chucked all this about CO2 as a poison and what President Trump's doing about it. And also Gates and all the oligarchs are kind of run away from climate change and why they're doing it. And the impact is going to have a folks's life. Okay, gold broke 3,000 all time high on Friday. It's not just the price of gold. It's important. It's why gold is going up. You need to understand it. Birchgold.com the End of the Dollar Empire Go to birchcold.com Bannon End of the Dollar Empire Five free installments. We added a sixth. Modern Monetary Theory. Get your warpath coffee out, get a big old pot and just crawl into that. Understand it. It's going to underpin all these budget fights we're going to have going forward. Or take your phone out, text Bannon. That would be me at 989-898 get the free guide, the ultimate guide of buying and purchasing gold in the Aero Trump right stuff takes us out. 90 seconds. The second hour of a Saturday war room. Next. Health isn't just a personal issue. It's a family issue, a community issue. We're living in unpredictable times. Supply chains can break down, hospitals can get overwhelmed. And let's not even start on the natural disasters. These aren't hypotheticals. They're happening. You see it here in the war room and we all know it. The question is simply, are you ready? That's where Jace comes in. This isn't just a kit. This is a Jace case. It's a lifeline. It's a personal supply of prescribed emergency medications that puts the power back in your hands. Whether it's an unexpected illness or a global disruption of supply chains, you can act fast and protect yourself and your loved ones. This February, show them you care in a way that really matters. Be prepared. Get the Jace case today so you'll have the right meds on hand the moment you need them. Visit jacemedical.com and use the code Bannon B A N N O N at checkout for a discount on your order. That's jacemedical.com promo code Bannon. Get the Jace case and do it today.
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