Episode 4344: President Trump Takes Back Kennedy Center, Dark Money And Arabella Advisors

Summary

Episode 4344: President Trump Takes Back Kennedy Center, Dark Money And Arabella Advisors

Host/Author: WarRoom.org
Release Date: March 17, 2025
Podcast: Bannon’s War Room

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Introduction

In Episode 4344 of Bannon’s War Room, host Steve Bannon delves into significant political developments surrounding President Donald Trump’s recent actions, the influence of dark money in American politics, and the strategic maneuvers of organizations like Arabella Advisors. The episode features insightful discussions with key contributors, including Natalie Winters, providing a comprehensive analysis of the current political climate.

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President Trump’s Kennedy Center Speech

Timestamp: [00:00 - 05:15]

The episode opens with Steve Bannon addressing the ongoing public interest in various high-profile investigations, including those related to the Kennedy Center, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and Epstein files. He emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability, suggesting that officials involved should undergo polygraph tests to bolster public trust.

Notable Quote:

Steve Bannon: “[...] this is a massive fight about releasing these files. [...] President Trump went to both. They’re both historic and really seizing the high ground against the deep state and the imperial capital.”
[00:19]

President Trump’s Speech at the Kennedy Center:

President Trump addressed the Kennedy Center, criticizing its management and financial decisions. He condemned the construction of underutilized underground rooms and the financial inefficiency exemplified by union demands, such as the $30,000 cost to move a piano for a performance by Lee Greenwood.

Notable Quote:

Donald Trump: “They spent a fortune 250 million and they built these rooms that nobody's going to use, rooms underground. [...] Such a waste of money. [...] We'll make it great again.”
[02:57]

Trump also drew parallels between the mismanagement at the Kennedy Center and broader national issues like open borders and the participation of men in women’s sports, indicating a philosophy of reclaiming American institutions from what he describes as overreaching liberal policies.

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Trump’s Claims on Biden’s Pardons

Timestamp: [05:15 - 08:35]

Steve Bannon discusses President Trump’s late-night claims on social media regarding President Joe Biden’s pardons issued during his final hours. Trump alleged, without evidence, that Biden’s pardons for January 6th committee members were invalid due to the use of an auto pen and questioned Biden’s knowledge of these pardons.

Notable Quote:

Steve Bannon: “Trump’s claim is a clear affront to the Constitution, [...] implicit in his post was Trump's belief that the nation's laws should be whatever he decrees them to be.”
[05:15]

Former Democratic Senator and MSNBC analyst Claire McCaskill joins the discussion, criticizing Trump’s actions as undermining the rule of law and highlighting the potential negative impacts of his rhetoric on public trust in governmental institutions.

Notable Quote:

Claire McCaskill: “An investigation into the January 6 committee would end up making him look bad. [...] This is not a normal guy. This is a guy that is trying to bring a wrecking ball to the services provided to Americans.”
[05:15]

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Dark Money and Arabella Advisors

Timestamp: [08:35 - 24:39]

The conversation shifts to the pervasive influence of dark money in American politics, focusing on organizations like Arabella Advisors. Bannon and co-host Natalie Winters analyze how these entities fund and orchestrate left-wing movements to shape political outcomes in favor of progressive agendas.

Notable Quote:

Steve Bannon: “These people represent every progressive that wants to control and terraform this country.”
[21:55]

Natalie Winters provides an in-depth examination of how dark money networks, including the 1630 Fund and Arabella Advisors, utilize tax and disclosure loopholes to fund advocacy groups and astroturf movements. She argues that these organizations create artificial protests to manipulate public opinion and hinder President Trump’s administration efforts.

Notable Quote:

Natalie Winters: “These groups are being funded by Soros-funded entities [...] They are weaponizing information warfare to fit the color revolution playbook.”
[17:21]

Winter highlights specific tactics, such as paying protesters and organizing mass demonstrations that appear grassroots but are orchestrated and financially backed by wealthy donors. She underscores the role of billionaires like George Soros in perpetuating these movements to maintain progressive control over American politics.

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Natalie Winters on Left-Wing Funding and Astroturfing

Timestamp: [24:39 - 43:38]

Natalie Winters continues her analysis, focusing on the strategic funding and management of left-wing advocacy groups by dark money organizations. She details how groups like Indivisible and Families Over Billionaires are funded to conduct specific political operations, including hosting events and subsidizing recruitment efforts.

Notable Quote:

Natalie Winters: “It is full-blown information warfare that fits the architect of the color revolution, [...] creating fake mass demonstrations to appear as widespread opposition to the Trump administration.”
[21:55]

Winter also discusses the broader implications of these funding strategies, asserting that they undermine genuine grassroots movements by replacing them with financially incentivized protests that serve the interests of wealthy donors rather than true public sentiment.

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Interview with Michael Walsh

Timestamp: [33:27 - 43:38]

The episode features an interview with Michael Walsh, an author and Irish-American activist, who discusses the political dynamics in Ireland and their parallels with American politics. Walsh critiques the influence of the European Union and globalist agendas on Irish sovereignty, drawing connections to the strategies employed by dark money groups in the U.S.

Notable Quote:

Michael Walsh: “They view the United States not as a country, but as something they can manipulate politically, [similar to] how they treat us through immigration processes and financially.”
[33:36]

Walsh emphasizes the importance of strong, decisive leadership and criticizes what he perceives as the erosion of national sovereignty and cultural identity. He advocates for a return to traditional values and robust national sovereignty, aligning with the podcast’s broader themes of combating deep-state and globalist influences.

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Conclusion

Timestamp: [43:38 - End]

Steve Bannon wraps up the episode by reiterating the challenges facing the Trump administration from legal battles and orchestrated political opposition. He emphasizes the importance of legal strategies to combat these obstacles and underscores the role of organizations like WarRoom.org in countering dark money influence.

Notable Quote:

Steve Bannon: “The action in the next two years is going to be in the courts, but they need to get into the streets to buttress this. [...] We're going on offense.”
[31:03]

Bannon outlines upcoming segments, including reports from Julie Kelly and Brian Costello, aimed at further exposing the mechanisms of dark money and strategizing the administration’s response to ongoing political resistance. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to stay informed and engaged in the fight against entrenched political adversaries.

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Key Takeaways

• Kennedy Center Investigation: President Trump’s critique highlights broader concerns about governmental mismanagement and financial inefficiency in public institutions.

• Dark Money Influence: Organizations like Arabella Advisors play a significant role in funding and orchestrating left-wing movements, undermining genuine grassroots activism.

• Astroturfing Tactics: The strategic creation of artificial protests serves to manipulate public perception and hinder policy initiatives of the Trump administration.

• Legal vs. Street Strategies: Future political battles are expected to unfold both in courts and public spaces, emphasizing the need for robust legal defenses and counter-movements.

• Global Influences: Parallels drawn between Irish and American politics illustrate concerns about globalist agendas eroding national sovereignty and cultural identity.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Steve Bannon on File Transparency:

  “This is a massive fight about releasing these files.… President Trump went to both. They’re both historic and really seizing the high ground against the deep state and the imperial capital.”
  [00:19]

• Donald Trump on Kennedy Center Mismanagement:

  “They spent a fortune 250 million and they built these rooms that nobody's going to use… Such a waste of money. We'll make it great again.”
  [02:57]

• Claire McCaskill on Trump’s Pardons:

  “These people are not focused. [...] This is not the people who participated in a fact-finding mission that was always factually based.”
  [05:15]

• Natalie Winters on Dark Money:

  “These groups are being funded by Soros-funded entities… They are weaponizing information warfare to fit the color revolution playbook.”
  [17:21]

• Michael Walsh on Irish Sovereignty:

  “They view the United States not as a country, but as something they can manipulate politically…”
  [33:36]

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Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

To have a list of who was.

[Eric]

Questioned, bring it and who.

[Steve Bannon]

And who turned it over. Because people are very focused on this. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, the Epstein files, all of it. And people like Bannon Wave go swim through this.

[Natalie Winters]

This take a bit by bit, piecemeal.

[Steve Bannon]

It, read it, know it. See what. See what?

[Natalie Winters]

See where they start pulling those strings.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve, I'll give it to you, brother Eric. This was a ma. This, this, this was a massive fight in the first. This is a massive fight in the, in the first term. It was a massive fight about releasing these files. And now when you do it, I think you also list everybody that had responsibility sign off. And to me, they should have done a polygraph test that they turned everything. I think that's how unconvinced the public is. They're getting complete information. I think this is a huge deal. And, you know, tomorrow we'll see, but it's. It's a huge deal. Robert F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy's main justice, John F. Kennedy is the culture center. President Trump went to both. One on Friday, one today. They're both historic and really seizing the high ground against the deep state in the imperial capital. Sir, Beautiful.

[Natalie Winters]

Give it to you, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Talk to you soon, brother. Thank you. Brother Eric, always great. Thank you, sir. Those TFs are fantastic and the clips are amazing. Mad Dog, the clips are amazing. Don't ever change. Okay? We're jam packed today. The hearing, I think is still going on in Washington and Julie Kelly is following that. She's going to join us. But we have our own Natalie Winters at the White House. Let's do a cold open for Natalie. We will bring her in.

[Natalie Winters]

The President is visiting the Kennedy center this afternoon to attend a board meeting.

[Claire McCaskill]

A question about what happened a few weeks ago.

[Natalie Winters]

The Kennedy center got bomb threats targeting a performance by Shenbian Performing Arts, which is an American company showcasing China before communism. This company has been targeted, unfortunately by the CCP for years. I'm wondering if this administration have a pleasant response to this. And also as the President is putting an emphasis on arts and culture, what's.

[Claire McCaskill]

The administration's message to potentially foreign state.

[Natalie Winters]

Actors who are trying to disrupt that in the US don't disrupt it. This administration will take that very seriously and hold you accountable. We obviously condemn any violence or threats of violence against American institutions. And the President will be traveling to the Kennedy center later this afternoon. I look forward to going with him. As you know, he is now the chairman of the board of the Kennedy center where he hopes to restore arts and Culture that embrace American tradition. Don't disparage it. As we have unfortunately seen over the past several years, the president will be doing a tour of the center in his business developer mind. I'm sure he will make some recommendations on how the center itself can be improved, but also will be discussing perhaps some future plays and musicals and theatrical programs that the center will be hosting under his new leadership and the board's new leadership.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you very much. We're here to have our first board meeting, Kennedy Center. And it's in tremendous disrepair, as is a lot of the rest of our country, most of it because of bad management. This is a shame. What I've watched and witnessed. They spent a fortune 250 million and they built these rooms that nobody's going to use, rooms underground. And I've often wondered what are the big cubes that they have outside that block the view, the cubes with the door in them so that people can get down to rooms that nobody's going to use. And it's a shame. It's a shame. The other thing is going to have a little problem with some people that work here. We had. Lee Greenwood wanted to sing a little song today, and because of the cost in the union structure, for him to sing a song just for the board, just a board meeting. It was going to cost $30,000. That doesn't sound too good. They wanted $30,000 to move a piano, so you can't have that. So we're gonna. We're gonna fix it up. But it's really emblematic of our country. At the Kennedy center, you look at the columns outside, you look at. I mean, they're supposed to be covered by something, whether it's marble or whatever, granite. They were never covered. They were painted. But bring it modern times. A lot of money has been given to it, and the money has not been properly spent. They built rooms underground with no windows, no nothing that will not be used ever. You're not going to have people use them. Such a waste of money. Such a terrible waste. But we'll make it. We'll bring it back. We'll make it great again. But it is so much like what I'm witnessing in other places. We have open borders. We have men playing in women's sports. It's all the same thing. It's all the same mentality and thinking. So I'm very disappointed when I look around the bottom line. It has tremendous potential and we'll work with Congress. As you know, it's very public, a very public facility. And we'll do what has to be done. We'll be having a meeting with the speaker in the not too distant future. I think it's important to save this structure in this building.

[Claire McCaskill]

Claiming a power he does not possess, Donald Trump took to social media. In the middle of the night, no less. This sounds made up. This is true. This really happened, guys. To say he's going to void a number of the pardons President Joe Biden issued in his final hours as President Trump claimed with zero evidence in the middle of the night on social media, that the preemptive pardons President Biden issued to the January 6th elect committee members are somehow invalid because they were signed using an auto pen. The auto pen is a commonly used device that replicates a handwritten signature. Most presidents use them. He also alleged that President Biden didn't know about the pardons and that the committee members would be, quote, subject to investigation at the highest level, end quote. Again, all this in a middle of the night tweet. Trump's claim is a clear affront to the Constitution, which for better or worse gives any president the broad power to issue pardons and makes no provision for later presidents to rescind them. In the middle of the night on social media, New York Times describes Trump new attack on the rule of law, like this quote. Trump's assertion, which embraced a baseless right wing conspiracy theory about former President Joseph Biden, was a new escalation of his anti Democratic rhetoric. Implicit in his post was Trump's belief that the nation's laws should be whatever he decrees them to be. And it was a jolting reminder that his appetite for revenge has not been sated. Joining us at the table, former Democratic senator, MSNBC political analyst Claire McCaskill's here. What do you think? Well, be careful what you wish for, Donald Trump. I mean, can you imagine pardon all of his pardons. Can you imagine unpardoning all the stuff he's done? I wonder how all those J6 folks that have been pardoned feel about him doing this. And frankly, I think an investigation into the January 6 committee would end up making him look bad. Trump, that is not the people who participated in a fact finding mission that was always factually based. I was never really crazy about that pardon in the first place. If I'd been a member of that committee, I would have said like I think Adam Schiff did. Bring it, bring it, guy. You think you've got some way to put me in jail for doing my job, Then try it and see how the American public Reacts so in the middle of the night stuff. I mean we know he's not well, I mean a President of the United States is not up in the middle of the night retweeting conspiracy stuff that is made out of whole cloth. I mean somebody who's normal. I mean we know this is not a normal guy. This is a guy that is trying to bring a wrecking ball not just to the services provided to Americans by the hard earned dollars they pay to the government, but also a wrecking to our two branches of government and the checks and balances that our founding fathers relied on. The Supreme Court's going to have a lot of work to do. It will be very interesting to see and I, you know Andrew and I have talked about it off camera many times before but and I've said it on this program before, the action of the next two years is primarily going to be in the courts.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Natalie Winters]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie?

[Natalie Winters]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Eric]

War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Monday 17th March Overlord 2025 thank you for joining the late afternoon early evening edition of the war room. It's St. Patty's Day. We are going to have Michael Walsh. They had a very special guest at the White House today actually I guess in the press briefing room. Michael Walsh is going to walk us through that. Ambassador Rick Renell. We've been in contact with Rick. We're going to try to get Rick in an assessment of the board meeting at the Kennedy center today. A little later in the show, Julie Kelly is still plugged in to this hearing by the judge to try to reverse the Alien enemies Act of 1798. As we are sending the bad guys back home and we're sending them back home rapidly. Claire McCaskill just said it right there. For the next two years. What did she say? For the next two years the actions are going to be in the court. That's where they're going to try to stop us. Of course, Mike Davis laid it all out for you today. The battle plan, what we have to do about it. We're going on offense. We'll get to much of that. Hopefully, Julie will be at the bottom of the hour when they're finished with this hearing. She will join us for a complete assessment. Natalie Winters joins us now. Natalie, walk us through the day at the, at the White House. So much going on on the eve. They're going to have a meeting, I guess telephonically or video conference with the president and Putin tomorrow. So much going on. He goes over to the, he goes to the Kennedy center, but it's full on full assault everywhere. The resistance, right. You've been, you've been covering kind of the, the adjunct to the legal to get them into court, who's financing it, who's, who's supporting it. Now they've got this, you know, Bernie Sanders and aoc, the only two people can draw a crowd, are essentially doing a college tour, I think it is, and they're going to get a lot of people there as they do what they call the Oligarchs Tour. Natalie Winters, your thoughts and observations on the day. Ma'am.

[Natalie Winters]

Well, I think what we're witnessing is the complete reversal of America's managed declines. And I think you see it really going on from every single vertical, every single corner really, of American society. I think you have the cultural stuff really leading the news cycle today with what's going on at the Kennedy Center. I think the speech that President Trump gave outside there, which I think you have to understand the gravitas of him going and essentially invading and I use that word intentionally, what is the high church of sort of the swampy DC Elite and telling them everything that they have been doing, not just wrong with that center, but as a broader reflection and microcosm for how they have been terrorizing this country. But I think you can't decouple that from what is happening tomorrow and what has happened more broadly with Ukraine, with Russia, with Vladimir Putin, who, let's be frank, that is what this city, the think tank, the K Street lobbyists, the entire globalist Atlanticist class, has essentially not just made their millions off of, but has been the core, the raisin d'etre, right, that they exist to sort of thwart the rise of Russia. We know in reality it's all propaganda and hyping it up. Obviously, they're bad guys, but they exploit that fear to what make the argument that we should just continue sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine. So whether it's the Kennedy center, whether it's what's happening with Russia or frankly what's happening on elite university campuses like Columbia, right, with these protesters, or what's happening at the southern border and deporting, apparently it's controversial to deport foreign terrorists. That was a real hot take in today's press briefing. But you are witnessing the reversal of America's manage decline, which is something that I don't think anyone really thought was possible, certainly at this rate or pace. But I think what you're seeing, what you were alluding to is the apoplectic, apoplectic nature of the left in response. And certainly don't get me wrong, the court says how they're choosing to fight back against this with lawfare. They had four years to sharpen their knives, sharpen their tools and understand how to attack President Trump. But they're also mobilizing, mass mobilizing in the streets with these town halls. And we couldn't get into some of the funding for this. A lot of this is coming from George Soros. They're paying these activists to show up. They like the facade, the smoke screen that this is all people driven, grassroots driven. But when you really pull the curtain, the smoke screen behind it, it's an actual billionaire who's bankrolling the families over billionaires movement. This whole oligarchic anti oligarch tour is being funded by oligarchs, by actual totalitarian oligarchs like George Soros, like the Reid Hoffman's of the world. So it's just more gaslighting, but I guess that's what we've come to expect.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, no, what they want to do is take the eye off the ball. They want to take the eye off particularly the movement that will hold them accountable. Natalie, stay right there. We hope you don't blow away a little windy march coming in like a lion, hopefully go out like hopefully go out like a lamb. We're going to take a short commercial break. Johnny Khan is going to take you out. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. You get to Birch Gold. Get the free brochure. Investing in gold and precious metals in the era of Trump. The ultimate guide. This will tell you everything you need to know and put you in contact with Philip Patrick and his team as they explain to you why gold has been a hedge against times of financial turbulence. I don't know, 5,000 years of man's recorded history. Johnny Khan takes us out. American heart Natalie Winners on the other side.

[Natalie Winters]

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[Natalie Winters]

Something different. There is now a member of the European Parliament from France who does not think the US Represents the values of the Statue of Liberty anymore.

[Eric]

They want the Statue of Liberty back. So is President Trump going to send the Statue of Liberty back to France?

[Natalie Winters]

Absolutely not. And my advice to that unnamed low level French politician would be to remind them that it's only because of the United States of America that the French are not speaking German right now. So they should be very grateful to our great country. Kelly.

[Steve Bannon]

Boom. Caroline Levitt. Both barrels, she had a bunch of those today. We're going to play a few more throughout the rest of the show, but signal not noise here, ma'am. Natalie Winters, the Families Over Billionaires tour, which is the only thing politically they've got going. Of course their numbers are in the tank. They're trying to, they're trying to, they're trying to copy War room. Go after the oligarchs. Walk me through what oligarchs are actually financing this and how are they financing it. You've done your own individual research on this topic, ma'am?

[Natalie Winters]

Well, I want to focus on the group Indivisible before we sort of backtrack into Families Over Billionaires because For what it's worth, Families Over Billionaires is not an actual group that exists. You wanted to donate money to them, you couldn't. They're part of Arabella Advisors. They're part of the left wing dark money network, the 1630 Fund. But I think indivisible and frankly, Steve, I think that this is a very important narrative, right? Because the idea that the press corps is trying to foment and really gin up is that the American people don't support doge. They don't support really draining the swamp, right. Coming after the administrative state in tackling a lot of these programs like USAID that have no demonstrable benefit to American citizens. Right. That is the truth. That is the fact and indivisible, which has really been the backbone and spearheading so much of these protests and demonstrations. Well, they're actually paying not just these protesters to participate in these town halls to go after their members of Congress. They specifically have a, quote, Musk or US program where they're paying protesters up to $200 to participate in events like these. But I have new reporting coming out today highlighting how they are now subsidizing up to fifteen hundred dollars per indivisible group to host events that they describe as, quote, appreciation celebrations for members, quote, advocacy, recruitment and get out the vote work. They also are subsidizing group retreats, whether that's for things like cookouts and barbecues and pizza parties or what they call solidarity building events like DEI training. You can even see if the picture you have up on screen, people can choose if they want to be reimbursed via CH direct deposit or their distributed fundraising account. Right. And I just think that stories like these, it's really important to drill down because if you look at it broadly, right, how the left wing media presents it, they never drill down on how these protesters, these individuals, are being funded by Soros funded entities by these left wing dark money networks. The people that you're seeing, it's not like they are organically or altruistically deciding to protest some something they are being paid to do so. And in the same vein right now, AOC and Bernie Sanders, which I guess that's their last ditch effort, that's the only thing they have to try to push back against the wins and victories of President Trump to support, right, the working class. Yet in the same breath they can't come out and oppose illegal immigration. Try to square that in your mind. I mean, they're no worse than these paid protesters, right? They're essentially the ultimate glorification of what it means to be a paid protester. They're so bought and paid for, whether it's by the dark money that special interests, or in the case of Bernie Sanders, the Koch brothers, we know right after he took money from them, suddenly he never talked about open borders anymore. So all of these groups, I cannot stress this enough, it's not just a psyop. It is full blown information warfare that frankly fits in quite nicely to the sort of architect that is the color revolution, whereby one of the key pillars of that is creating really astroturfing, fake mass demonstrations, fake protests, trying to make it seem like the American people are so adamantly opposed to what the Trump administration is doing. And I've watched, Steve, a lot of these phone calls, the mass mobilization calls that Indivisible is putting on, and they have something that they like to tout called the 3.5% rule, where they believe that if just 3.5% of a population of a society really, really believes something and speaks out about it and protests that that is enough to block something that is otherwise super popular and received, in the case of President Trump, tens of millions of votes, the popular vote, and of course the electoral college. So this is a level, level, the granularity to which they are planning and advocating these tactics, these protests behind the scenes. They're not organic, they're very well funded. And the same with his families over billionaires group that's bankrolled by a Swiss billionaire. But I'm sure all the press, that's not too far away from me right now, they probably won't be melting down about foreign election interference or foreign collusion because it doesn't fit the Atlanticist Russia, Russia, Russia narrative.

[Steve Bannon]

Take a second. I just want to go back and do a slight reset on dark money and Arabella Advisors. Arabella advisors, not just a conduit where money comes in, but they also give advice on structure, on tactics, on strategy, all of it. Who's Arabella Advisors? Because they've been at the forefront of this movement now for quite a while and it's kind of the platinum class. They're like, I would consider them near the best of the best. Who are they? How do they operate? And what is the was? What is dark money?

[Natalie Winters]

Well, Steve, I think you may be going sock. They're not the best of the best, they're the worst of the worst. These people represent every progressive that's too euphemistic a term. But far, far left, megadone are the type of people who want to control and terraform this country, right? As a. It is a domestic United States specific version of the World Economic Forum of the United Nations. People who want to hide themselves right in these funds, whether it's the 1630 Fund, Arabella Advisors, the New Venture Fund, exploiting these tax loopholes, these disclosure loopholes, so their identities are not revealed. So it's relying upon independent investigative reporters to unearth these identities. They obviously exploit that. That's all by design. But these people weaponize not. We're not talking millions, we're not talking tens of millions, hundreds of millions, billions of dollars to really what is. I think we can describe it as terraform this country, our political landscape into something that they adhere to, that they agree with. And frankly, what it all comes down to, I think, you know, if you even broaded it out, it's why we've seen foreign billionaires like the Swiss guy who's bankrolling the families over billionaires1 get involved, right? Because they view the United States not as a country, not as a place where citizens citizenship should mean something, but you sort of see it in the way that they treat us through immigration processes and even financially. It's why they hate tariffs. They view the people here in the same way. The group that supports H1B visas and mass unvetted, unfettered immigration. They don't think there's anything unique about being American. They treat us like a special economic zone. They treat this country as something that they can manipulate politically, right? And create these fake astroturf movements. Right now the biggest, you know, shtick is, oh, we really, really hate billionaires. But that should show you, Steve, not just, frankly, how insulting and dumb that they think Americans are, that we're going to fall for it, but it's projection, right? It's a Linsky to its core. The billionaires are now funding people to accuse us of supporting policies that are only going to embolden and help billionaires. Right? These people are really, I mean, the absolute scum of the earth. And I use that intentionally. And you know what, Steve? At least our billionaires have the nerves, have the guts to put a face to the name and put their personalities on the line and stake their businesses and their interests behind the interests that they're willing to advocate for. These people want to operate in the shadows, in darkness and not be called out for what they're doing. And frankly, Steve, it's because what they're trying to do to this country is so woefully unpopular. It's Kamala Harris on steroids, that they know if they ever actually had to make the case to the American people what they were truly pushing for, and not just smoke and mirrors pushing for, you'd have a revolution on your hands, metaphorically.

[Steve Bannon]

So, Natalie, whether it's Victoria Newland in 2014 over a decade ago at Madden Square, or it's the Tesla dealership on Saturday, or Bernie and AOC going on their tour, walk the audience through why astroturfing is such a key point. Because every night I cut on Rachel Maddow, as you know, one of the first parts of the show, they're breaking down everywhere from Salt Lake City to Dearborn, Michigan. They're just going around the country and it looks like it could be 25 people here, 50 people there. But they're constantly, constantly showing you how people are outraged and people coming out from their homes and protesting this. Walk us through. Why is astroturfing such a big deal? And why is it a constant in all these color revolutions?

[Natalie Winters]

I mean, whether it was Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, take any pick of any foreign war, have we not seen the same exact playbook, right, where they fan up these fake protests? It's always, oh, this human rights allegation or this abuse. In this case, oh, it's Tesla's doing this. And it's propaganda. I mean, it's domestic propaganda. They, what, legalized it over a decade ago. But that is why they are amping the airwaves. They're chock full of this idea that Americans are in massive meltdown, are massively protesting everything that this administration is doing now. Look, I'm not saying that there are not protests going on. Yes, there are. I can hear one going on right outside. But there's a lot more support and there's zero coverage of that. Right. Let's just look at the latest polls that's coming out about the lack of support for the Democratic Party versus support for the Republican Party. Right. That doesn't necessarily square with the numbers that we're seeing in terms of these protests. So I think the other side of it too, though, is you have to look at Cui Bono, right? Who is profiting off of this? Who is profiting off of continuing to create problems to destroy countries, in the case of Ukraine, because there's a lot of upside in terms of rebuilding it. And I think you see that even in the cheeky nature of Joe Biden's build back better statement. It's not really about better. It's just about building back something that they want to break because there's a lot of money in breaking it, right? You bring up Victoria Nuland. Well, she used to be a senior counselor at the Albright Stonebridge Group. They were recently acquired by Dennis Sentence, but they just added a bunch of Ukrainian people to their consultancy and they're actively advising, putting out papers about how we need to put tens of millions, not billions of dollars more into Ukraine, advising how to restructure Ukraine in the same way that West Exec Advisors, Antony Blinken's old firm was intimately involved with the rebuilding process and reconstruction of Ukraine because they view it as a cash cow, right? They view it as a really, really key and critical way to making millions of dollars. And USAID was perhaps the kind of ultimate convergence of all of these, these factors coming together. And it was the most, I think probably egregious because it was government subsidized, right? The Burisma loan and the aid that Joe Biden was talking about withholding to Ukraine, that was all coming from usaid, right? And it's hard to cover this stuff. It's always like talking about the Ukrainian names from the Hunter Biden hard drive, right? Because it's so entangled and interwoven. But that's because it's pattern recognition, right? It's the same people who are profiting not just off of the destruction of in this case it's Ukraine, now it's the United States, but it's the same people who are then profiting off of the so called rebuilding, right? And you see it in the World Economic Forum, right? The idea that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. The 15 minute cities, the entire restructuring of the way that the world is created because there's a lot to gain from it.

[Steve Bannon]

Natalie, Natalie, hang on for one second. Short commercial break Natalie winners from the White House on the other side.

[Eric]

How.

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[Eric]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

Natalie, Natalie, you're going to drop a big story tomorrow, I think can you just tease a little bit of what you're working on. This stuff about Arabella has been fascinating, all the work you've been doing because remember Claire McCaskill. I tell you what, do we have Claire McCaskill. Let's play Claire McCaskill. I want Natalie to hear that one more time before we leave. This whole part of the, of the, of the revolution and the resistance is, is predicated upon legal. Do we have it? Yeah, we have it. Okay, let's play it. Let's hit it.

[Claire McCaskill]

There's relied on. The Supreme Court's going to have a lot of work to do. It will be very interesting to see. And I, you know, Andrew and I have talked about it off camera many times before. But and I've said it on this program before, the action of the next two years is primarily going to be in the courts.

[Steve Bannon]

The action in the next two years is going to be in the courts. But they need to get into the streets to buttress this. These judges need to know that they got backup, they've got political backup. They're not going to have it from the Democratic Party. They're essentially crushed. So this is where it's going to come from. And you're going to have these billionaires like the Reid Hoffman's of the world and our famous what Swedish guy? I think he's Swiss. They're going to write huge checks. So Natalie, tell us what you're going to tease the rest of the week on your investigative reports.

[Natalie Winters]

Well, I think just continuing to show that these so called organic protesters are being paid to do so. And remember Steve, if they had the House, they'd be impeaching Trump right now. Right. That would be the equivalent of the lawfare. But you're seeing the same stuff that they did in 2016. A few days ago I was walking on the mall, they had one of those huge demonstrations against President Trump. But I had deja vu to 2016. I'm pretty sure it was the same people, the same signs. And what was the number one thing that they were demanding for President Trump to be arrested and for the impeachment of President Trump. Right. These people are not focused. They're all over the place. So that's why they're relying on these, you know, judges to really kind of keep them dialed in because that's, that's sort of where the, the key of it has been. But we'll be drilling down, putting out more stories about who exactly is funding these protesters and how it seems that all roads always somehow lead to George Soros. You can always follow me. Natalie G. Winters. And as I was coming in today, just fun note for the audience, saw Jeff Clark. He wanted me to send his regards to the posse. Says he is fighting the good fight in the White House. And I just saw none other than Russ Vogt pass by just a few blocks away. So everyone's here and Peter Navarro with Bonnie. So how's that for a reunion?

[Steve Bannon]

Not bad. That's a war room reunion right there. Thank you, Natalie. We'll let you get out of the wind tunnel. Thank you so much, girl. Fantastic. Great report. Breaking news President Trump has just put out on Truth Social. I am pleased to announce a new board of visitors for our nation's oldest military academy, West Point. Major General David Belavia, Lieutenant General Dan Walruth, General Michael Flynn, Congressman Wesley Hunt, Captain Maureen Bannon and Megan Mobbs are hereby appointed to the board. They will make our country proud. Congratulations to all. Captain Bennett, as you know, is a 2010 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point. Want to appreciate President Trump and all the people that were there on the selection and hopefully have her on tomorrow to talk about it. Let's go. We've got, we had, it is St. Patty's Day, right? Let's go ahead. And we had a special guest at the White House and we have a special guest here to talk about it. Let's go ahead and play it.

[Natalie Winters]

You know, our government has long since.

[Steve Bannon]

Abandoned the voices of the people of Ireland. And it's high time that America is made aware of what is going on in Ireland.

[Donald Trump]

What is going on in Ireland is a travesty. Our government is the government of zero.

[Steve Bannon]

Action with zero accountability. You know, our money is being spent on overseas issues that has nothing to do with the Irish people. The illegal immigration racket is running ravage on the country. There are rural towns in Ireland that have been overrun among swoop that have become a minority in one swoop. So issues need to be addressed and the 40 million Irish Americans, as I said, need to hear this because if not, there will be no place to.

[Donald Trump]

Come home and visit.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow. Michael Walsh, one of the War Room posse's favorite authors and writers, joins us now. Michael Walsh, that was a fighter. Tell our audience who are not Irish. Who was that? Because he was throwing down hard brother in the White House.

[Eric]

Well, let me wish my fellow diaspora and Irishman Steve BANNON A happy St. Patrick's Day today. It's a day of pride.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir.

[Eric]

For Irish Americans and a reminder that the diaspora in America, which is almost 40 million people strong, has a real strong interest in what's happening in Ireland. We are widely disparaged back home, as we call it, by people who think we're not somehow really Irish or we really have a rooting interest in what goes on in Ireland. Steve, as you know, I went back and rebuilt my great grandmother's birthplace, so I actually have a house. I have skin in the game in Ireland. So this is very important to me. Anyway, that was Conor McGregor. I should start by observing that he is a highly controversial figure in Ireland. He's not particularly well regarded among the mainstream Irish populace. While they're proud of him as an mf, was it, mixed martial arts champ and outspoken personality, he has a checkered past, shall we say, including a rape allegation for which he was never prosecuted but found civilly liable. So he is a lightning rod of contention in Ireland. And I don't want to endorse him personally. I don't know him for one thing. But I do want to say I'm glad that someone is putting the issues that are happening in Ireland on the table in front of Americans who don't know what's happening. The Irish media is part of a three legged racket in Ireland that includes the uniparty government. It's two opposing parties that are on the same side and actually work together. The media, which is wholly in the pocket of the Irish government and is to a large extent funded by them. So imagine if everything was NPR in the United States and the court system, which has a two tier system of justice. Immigrants have rights that Irish people don't have. So I think MacGregor, in his own uncouth way is articulating this to Irish Americans. And again, there's 30 to 40 million of us who think of the old country as the old country and then they go back and they're very surprised to find out that in many places the Irish are now a minority in their own communities and that Dublin is rapidly changing.

[Steve Bannon]

Michael. MICHAEL but the political class of sold out the Irish people, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the political class there probably a country that's the political class is the most sold out to the party of Davos, to Davos World Economic Forum, to Brussels, the eu. This is why it's been open borders in Ireland. I mean, it's been a fiasco. And the Irish themselves have been at the receiving end of all this, sir.

[Eric]

That is the truth. Because as you know, Steve, the Irish were forced practically at gunpoint to join the eu. They voted against it the first time, and then they didn't vote right, so they were told to vote harder until they got it right. And so now they're in the eu and as a result, their politicians and government officials answer to the eu, not to the Irish people. So the notion that Ireland has sovereignty, for example, its neutrality, is coming up under question now about whether they should send peacekeeping troops to the Ukraine is moot because it actually is a satrapy of Brussels. And the Irish leaders, both of whom, one of whom is here now and one was in the White House the other day, answer to Brussels, not to the people of Ireland. So it's a real fundamental question of patriotism and who is to be boss in their own country. Our country just went through this and we answered that question, and the Trump administration is answering that question every single day, much to the distress of the left. But as you know from your experience in Europe as well, Europe, Western Europe in particular, feels very differently about this. And to them, democracy is bureaucracy, is leftist control of the bureaucracy. The guy that won the Romanian election has now been declared he can't run again. He can't even run for the office. We saw the French shut down of the pen. We saw the Germans just recently shut down AfD, even though it's now the second largest party in Germany. Democracy isn't the point anymore. It's fealty to what I call the eussr. And as you know, I was in the USSR when Chernobyl blew up, and I was there right at the very end, not to mention being in Berlin when the wall came down in 89. So I've seen this movie before and I think the warning that MacGregor gave to Irish America and all of America is very well taken.

[Steve Bannon]

Isn'T as many rough edges as he has, and he is a mixed martial art. Combatant, isn't it? Almost. Given the state of the media there, right? Isn't it? Almost. You need somebody like this to break through the white noise. You need an armor piercing shell to wake people up and let them know there is another way, sir.

[Eric]

Well, you do. We've done it, as you better than anybody knows, with Donald Trump, who was not the most popular man in the United States when he ran for President in 2016 and was the object of tremendous disparagement in so many ways and still is in so many ways. And again, without endorsing MacGregor personally or his personal life, he has articulated these very, very important issues which Irish America and all of America needs to at least know is going on. Because the media will throttle this in its cradle in Ireland. It will not get out. And all of its shills will immediately start tweeting about what an awful person he is and make the man the subject instead of the subject. And we have to concentrate on the subject, just as we do here in the United States right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Michael, talk to people about your latest book. The Warren Posse are obviously huge fans and this is another blockbuster. Talk to us about it.

[Eric]

Well, congratulations on your daughter being appointed to the board at West Point. I'm talking to West Point right now about going down and doing a little. I'll hold up the book here. Let's see if I can get it in the. There we go. It's called A Rage to Conquer, and it is a sequel to my book Last Stands, which came out just four or five years ago and was in large part thanks to War Room and to you, Steve, a tremendous hit for St. Martin's Press. So it's about these issues we are talking about. Everything comes down to certain basics. And one of them is what is masculinity? To use MacGregor, an example, he's an extreme example of toxic masculinity, not to be emulated in his personal life. And at the same time, you have this colorless class of servants and bureaucrats who are as unmasculine as possible. And so they treat us guys, men like you and me, Steve, and many of our friends, a number of whom are now in the Trump administration, I'm very happy to say, as if we're somehow the outliers and the aberration. But what a Rage to Conquer seeks to show is the importance of strong men, commanders in battles that have an existential meaning. And without them, you will lose. It's that simple.

[Steve Bannon]

I will say in history, you need the leaders and things like that can stand. They have more courage. But in every battle, you need a lot of Conor McGregors who are just going to stand in the breach and not give up an itch. He's a warrior. I realize he's got some rough edges, some personal issues, but he's. I don't know if I call it toxic. It's certainly edgy, right? But it's. He's. I think he's the kind of guy that Ireland at least needs to pierce to pierce the. How awful that political class is to put them on notice Anyway. Michael, where do people get the book? The book they have to read? It's amazing. You won't put it down. It almost reads like a novel. You've taken 10 or 12 great battles. Where do they go?

[Eric]

Thank you for that, Steve. They get it on Amazon. They can get it from macmillan Online. Any bookstore, of course, will do it. It's been a little hard for me to break through all the news, which is exclusively political, to get the word on this book out. So I'm grateful that you've had me back on.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll get it out. Thank you, Sir.

[Eric]

Thank.

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Julie Kelly is also finished from the court hearing and we're going to complete report on Julie just to reset the battlefield. And this is why we kind of went off the chain this morning because we had to. The legal aspect of this is we have been warning about and their tactic is quite evident. They can't defeat President Trump because what he's doing is constitutional. They can't stop President Trump, but they can slow it down. To delay is to deny. And all they're doing is fighting a rear guard action to delay this and hopefully in their case delay it through the midterm elections. And folks don't think they're not going to try to drag this out virtually in every area where President Trump is trying to either deconstruct the administrative state, take on the deep state, or just to effectuate his policies. Like, as we said, the situation on the deportations, the curing of the border, the deportations, all of it, we're in federal court. I think there's 22 to 32 suits right now that are actually half standing are in the courts being judged essentially everything on his ability to make decisions on money. You got that $2 billion that's there for foreign aid, that the federal judge at the first level saying, not, you've got to, you know, you got to pay it. Sorry about that. Also, the firing, the roofing, the downsizing. I think the probationary, They've ordered two different courts, San Francisco and now Maryland have ordered that the probationary folks be hired back. So everything is on this. Also in the deportations. It's just the first phase to get the most hardened criminals out. These are the, these are the most. These are gangs that would, if they were in Mexico, would be terrorist organizations. Right. This is not even question about the violence and ferocity of these gangs. Federal judge is stopping that. Julie Kelly's going to be at the. Going to be at the top to walk us through it, because everything President Trump's doing, whether it's on the economic side, whether it's on stopping the kinetic wars, whether it's on everything securing the border and deportations, the main three events, he's being thwarted at every level, whether it's tariffs, whether it's talking about, you know, what he's trying to do to bring jobs back. At every level. They're fighting him. They're fighting him even when he announces good news like bringing jobs back. So this is full ON, As Claire McCaskill just said, she says the action for the next two years is going to be in the court, but at the same time, they have to stand up some political operation. You saw the fact where the Democrats are in the 20s as far as approval. So clearly they can't do it with those guys. They're going to try to do something different. And this is what Natalie's been doing such an amazing job of all these different billionaires that are essentially financing, trying to finance a color revolution. You're going to see all this Astroturf protesting. You're seeing them at the Tesla dealerships right now. And listen, do I think that there's a ton of these progressives who all drank the Kool Aid on the electric vehicle at the beginning that are now having second thoughts because Elon Musk came and he turned. He turned Twitter more to the conservative side. And he's clearly helping. He's the inspiration behind Doge. He's overseeing Doge in this deconstruction of the administrative state. And they're freaking out. Right. They hate him now because he's like an apostate that has turned against their beliefs and they hate it. Yes, that's some of it. But a lot of this is being paid for by these billionaires that want to use Elon Musk and his efforts to turn it against President Trump. And that's where they're going, to Tesla dealerships. That's why you're going to see. You saw these big crowds the last two weeks in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin for Bernie Sanders. And they're ratcheting up and they're taking. Remember, all these oligarchs were Progressive Democrats until 11:00pm on the 5th of November, 2024, when it was obvious that President Trump had won the presidency for the second time. And they were in absolute shock, total shock. They all flipped. They ran to mar a lago. Those billionaires are progressive Democrats. And now progressive Democrats are going to go out and say, oh, it's families over billionaires. Where were you folks for years and years and years as you gave them the monopolistic basic business models? Never put the Justice Department on them, never put the Federal Trade Commission on them, never tried to break them up, but allowed them become not companies that are capitalists and companies worried about markets and profits, but basically tech feudalism oligarchs that are just digital platforms in rent because they're rent seekers and everybody's a digital serf. That is Bernie Sanders. That's aoc. That's the entire Democratic Party now because of political expediency that we've exposed it, they all want to run to that. But the rest of this is all 100% astroturfed. Birch gold. We're gonna go through some turbulent times. Gold back up over $3,000. It's not the price of gold. It's how it got that way and where it's going in the future. Why it's a store of value. Why is it a hedge against times of turbulence, as history says? Natalie talks about pattern recognition. We're gonna teach you pattern recognition at birchgold. 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