Episode 4356: Threats Against Tommy Robbinson's Life; The Judicial Insurrection

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon`s War Room – Episode 4356: Threats Against Tommy Robbinson's Life; The Judicial Insurrection

Release Date: March 22, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Episode Title: Threats Against Tommy Robbinson's Life; The Judicial Insurrection

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Introduction

In Episode 4356 of Bannon`s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into pressing national issues, focusing primarily on threats against Tommy Robbinson and the burgeoning judicial insurrection. The episode features insights from various guests, including former President Donald Trump, legal correspondent Julie Kelly, and Peter McElven from Hearts of Oak. The discussion spans topics from immigration policies and judicial overreach to the role of media in shaping public perception.

Trump on Tariffs and Canada ([00:43] – [03:23])

The episode opens with former President Donald Trump addressing economic policies, particularly tariffs and trade relations with Canada.

• Trump on Tariffs Flexibility:
  “The word flexibility is an important word. Sometimes there's flexibility, so there'll be flexibility, but basically it's reciprocal.” ([01:15])

• Critique of Canada’s Trade Practices:
  “Canada has been a very nasty negotiator against the United States. Took advantage of the United States for a long time...” ([02:50])

Trump emphasizes the need for reciprocal trade measures and criticizes Canada's high tariffs on American dairy products, asserting that the U.S. should not bear the financial burden of supporting neighboring countries economically.

Threats Against Tommy Robbinson ([03:23] – [34:32])

The core focus shifts to Tommy Robbinson, a controversial figure known for his activism against Islamic influence in the UK.

Overview of Robbinson's Situation ([08:02] – [13:05])

Robbinson has been placed in solitary confinement at Woodhill due to threats against his life from other inmates. His legal team argues that this isolation violates his human rights and negatively impacts his mental health.

• Robinson's Confinement Details:
  “He is allowed out by one guard. He goes and he is allowed in the gym by himself for two hours and then back in the cell. That is solitary confinement.” ([09:16])

Insights from Peter McElven ([13:05] – [33:39])

Peter McElven discusses the broader implications of Robbinson's imprisonment, linking it to the failure of multicultural policies in the UK.

• Multiculturalism's Failure:
  “Because they fear someone pointing out that multiculturalism has utterly failed.” ([30:39])

• No-Go Zones Across Europe:
  “The MAF article is fantastic. And it shows the no go zones all across Europe...” ([30:45])

McElven argues that Islamic influence has overtaken traditional British culture, creating environments hostile to figures like Robbinson who speak against Islamic grooming gangs.

• Robinson as a Hero:
  “Tommy Robinson is a hero in trying to save lives, Islamic lives also.” ([33:39])

Legal Battles and Media Representation ([07:00] – [34:32])

Julie Kelly provides a legal perspective, highlighting discrepancies in the treatment of individuals labeled as terrorists versus non-criminals.

• ACLU and Legal Declarations:
  “...some of these people don't have criminal records... none of those tattoos have anything to do with gang membership.” ([07:00])

The discussion underscores the tension between governmental policies and individual rights, questioning the legitimacy of designations that lead to severe punitive measures against certain groups.

The Judicial Insurrection ([35:30] – [50:17])

The conversation transitions to concerns about judicial overreach and the independence of the judiciary from executive actions.

Julie Kelly on Courtroom Proceedings ([16:12] – [27:11])

Julie Kelly discusses ongoing court cases involving the Trump administration, focusing on deportation flights and potential misuse of the Alien Enemies Act.

• Judge Boasberg's Stance:
  “Judge Boasberg... blasted the Department of Justice, saying that their responses to him have been woefully insufficient.” ([18:31])

• State Secrets Privilege:
  “If they do [invoke it], that will be a legal argument by them that they never have to provide that information...” ([21:04])

Kelly highlights the friction between the judiciary and the executive branch, emphasizing the importance of due process and transparency in legal proceedings.

Legislative Responses and Impeachment Discussions ([35:30] – [50:17])

Congressman Andy Biggs joins the discussion, presenting strategies to counteract what he perceives as judicial overreach.

• Defunding the Judiciary:
  “We have the checkbook. We can defund them.” ([37:49])

• Removing Judicial Jurisdiction:
  “Under Article 3, Section 1 of the Constitution... we grant or remove jurisdiction from all those courts.” ([38:05])

Biggs advocates for legislative measures to limit judicial power, including defunding federal courts and stripping jurisdiction to prevent nationwide injunctions that hinder executive actions.

• Innovative Impeachment Approach:
  “Congress should pass a resolution saying, judge, you are not in good behavior...” ([37:49])

Bannon and Biggs discuss unprecedented methods to hold judges accountable, suggesting that the Constitution allows for the removal of judges not just through traditional impeachment but also via legislative resolutions.

Rhetoric of Political Violence ([39:01] – [43:22])

The episode delves into the concerning rhetoric surrounding political figures and the potential for domestic terrorism.

• Domestic Terrorism Concerns:
  “Domestic terrorism includes people who are inciting, and they're using this domestic terrorism to actually try to intimidate government officials to change policy.” ([40:08])

Bannon criticizes inflammatory statements from political figures, equating them to incitements of domestic terrorism. He urges authorities to take action against such rhetoric to maintain civil discourse and public safety.

• Call to Action:
  “I hope he opens an inquiry and begins looking at the connection between these individuals...” ([42:34])

Congressional Actions and Future Outlook ([44:56] – [50:17])

The discussion wraps up with reflections on ongoing legislative efforts and the future trajectory of conservative strategies in Congress.

• Impoundments and Rescissions:
  “What an impoundment is... that's the impoundment President Trump is going to follow with.” ([47:19])

Bannon outlines expected executive actions like impoundments and rescissions to control government spending, anticipating legal battles as the legislative and judicial branches contest these moves.

• Campaigning for Governor:
  “If you go to my campaign, you're going to go to bigs4Arizona.com...” ([50:02])

Congressman Biggs shares information about his gubernatorial campaign, emphasizing continued efforts to curb governmental overreach and promote fiscal responsibility.

Conclusion

Episode 4356 of Bannon`s War Room presents a robust discussion on the threats facing activists like Tommy Robbinson and the perceived encroachment of the judiciary on executive authority. Through incisive commentary and expert insights, the episode underscores the ongoing struggle between conservative initiatives and established governmental frameworks. Hosts and guests call for decisive legislative and executive actions to protect national integrity and uphold individual freedoms.

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Notable Quotes:

• Donald Trump ([00:43]):
  “People are coming to me and talking about tariffs, and a lot of people are asking me if they could have exceptions...”

• Peter McElven ([14:34]):
  “Multiculturalism has utterly failed...”

• Steve Bannon ([37:49]):
  “Congress should pass a resolution saying, judge, you are not in good behavior...”

• Eric Bolling ([25:56]):
  “This has never been approached in the entire history of the United States.”

• Julie Kelly ([18:31]):
  “Judge Boasberg... blasted the Department of Justice, saying that their responses to him have been woefully insufficient.”

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This summary captures the key discussions and insights from Episode 4356, providing a comprehensive overview for listeners unfamiliar with the original podcast.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

My friend.

[Eric Bolling]

Eric, thank you so much. My favorite time of the day is doing the pass the, the handoff from the Eric bowling show at 4 to worm at 5. Thank you, brother. Appreciate. Have a great weekend. Eric. Eric Bowling, an original gangster. Talk about original gangsters. We're gonna have Tommy Robinson. Also, Peter McElven, he's going to join us from London. I want to play kind of a highlight reel. President Trump today in the Oval Office, he was dropping bombs, including probably more bombs than the F47 is going to drop. Let's go ahead and play at the Cold Open. Julie Kelly is going to be here. Andy Biggs, Royce White. We're packed on a Friday in the war room. Let's go and let it roll.

[Donald Trump]

Well, people are coming to me and talking about tariffs, and a lot of people are asking me if they could have exceptions. And once you do that for one, you have to do that for all. So, I mean, generally, I did something interestingly during two weeks ago, I gave the American car companies a break because it would have been unfair if I didn't. And everybody said, oh, he changed his mind on tariffs. I didn't change my mind. I helped our, you know, sort of big three, big four. I helped some of the American companies. And instead of taking it properly, they said, oh, he changed it. I don't change. But the word flexibility is an important word. Sometimes there's flexibility, so there'll be flexibility, but basically it's reciprocal. So that if China is charging us 50% or 30% or 20%, and I don't mean China, I mean anybody, any country, Canada, nobody knows that Canada is charging our dairy farmers. They have 270% tariffs. Nobody knows that. Nobody knows that. They have up to 400%. They have a couple of tariffs at 400%. Nobody knows that. Nobody talks about that. And remember, with Canada, we don't need their cars, we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy, we don't need anything from Canada. And yet it costs us $200 billion a year in subsidy to keep Canada afloat. So when I say they should be a state, I mean that. I really mean that, because we can't be expected to carry a country that is right next to us on our border. It would be a great state. It would be a cherished state. The taxes for Canadian citizens would go down in less than half. They don't spend money on military because they think we're going to protect them. There are many things that they do, like icebreakers. They want us to provide icebreakers for them. Oh, that's wonderful. So the candidate, they're very tough traders, too. I want to just tell you, all the people, they're tough traders. They trade very tough. And, you know, the expression I use is some people don't have the cards. I used that expression about a week and a half ago. Right. Somebody was negotiating who didn't have the cards. Who's now, I think, saying that he wants to do it, and he's. I think we're going to have a big deal on that. Very special something. We got to make a deal on that. But Canada has been a very nasty negotiator against the United States. Took advantage of the United States for a long time, but nobody knows that they were getting 270% tariffs on dairy products on something else.

[Steve Bannon]

These Trende Aragua guys, because of your executive order, they are designated as foreign terrorists. If ISIS or Al Qaeda foreign terrorists were operating here in the United States, cops would probably be shooting first and asking questions later. And so what is the difference between terrorists, between somebody like an ISIS or an al Qaeda operative versus a Ms. 13 or trend Iran?

[Donald Trump]

Well, these are people that focus on destroying people in their homes. They're not as international in that sense. They're a group of thugs. They come from Venezuela. They come from the prisons of Venezuela. They're very, very dangerous people. But they didn't look so dangerous when the guards took care of the situation from El Salvador. And I want to thank the president. He's a friend of mine. He's done a great job. But I just can't imagine that the Democrats are taking this issue where they want to have them back. You know, so now they have men playing in women's sports. They have transgender for everyone. They have open borders. They have all of their crazy policies that are, I think, 95 5, not 90 10. Okay? And their new policy is, let's bring Trinidad back into our country. Let's bring the worst. These are the worst gang members there are. They looked amazingly frail, though, by the way they were handled. It's very amazing. You know, they weren't when they were in Colorado cutting the fingers off a man because he made a phone call to the police. They seemed a lot tougher then than they did when they were having their heads shaved and they were in shackles. They're tough people. They're bad people. We don't want them in our country. We can't let a judge say that he wants them. You know, he didn't run for president. He didn't get much more than 80 million votes. And we just can't let that happen. It would be so bad for our country. I won on the basis of getting criminals out of our country that were let in. It was called unforced era. They were let in by Biden, incompetently let in, and let in by the millions. Actually, 21 million people. I believe it's 21 million. And that's not even including the gotaways. But these are rough people. We want them out of our country. And I won the election based at least partly on that, and that's a big part.

[Julie Kelly]

Yeah, we know something about some of these people. In fact, I will tell you that Robert Sarna, who is an ICE official who's been a declarant here, meaning somebody who has submitted a sworn declaration on behalf of the government, has conceded as much in a sworn declaration saying many of these people or some of these people don't have criminal records. In terms of what else we know about them, the ACLU and Democracy Forward, they represent both the five original plaintiffs. And then sort of the larger class of Venezuelans subject to the proclamation have put in a court filing that has multiple declarations attached to it from lawyers who represent Venezuelan nationals who are believed to have been essentially disappeared by the US Government over the weekend on one of these flights. Many of the lawyers say, my client didn't have a criminal record. I know my client's tattoos. None of those tattoos, which the government has either cited to us previously as a basis for his affiliation with Train de Araga or has never raised with us before. But none of those tattoos have anything to do with gang membership. In one case, there's a declaration from a sister who says, I know the meaning of those tattoos that my brother has because I made two of them in Harlingen, Texas, where we lived. He didn't have any of those tattoos when he left Venezuela. So those are the sorts of facts that we're learning about the human beings at the heart of this game.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah.

[Eric Bolling]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

[Donald Trump]

It's going to happen.

[Eric Bolling]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Steve Bannon]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Eric Bolling]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Steve Bannon]

War Room.

[Donald Trump]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Eric Bolling]

Explosive activity today in federal courts. We're gonna get to all that here in a moment. I want to play. Peter McElveeny joins breaking news on Tommy Robinson. We have a short clip. Let's go and play that and we'll bring Peter in. Tommy Robinson has lost a High Court bid to challenge his segregation in prison over fears he'd be killed by another inmate. He was moved to a closed wing at Woodhill after intelligence suggested a prisoner serving life there was planning to attack him. His lawyers argued his isolation breaches human rights and is harming his mental health. But the court heard he enjoys various privileges behind bars and has no arguable claims. Robinson's real name, Stephen Yaxley Lennon, is serving 18 months for breaching a court injunction. Peter McElvenish from Hearts of Oak joins us. And we distribute Hearts of Oak here on the War Room. Peter, am I to hear this right? Because there was a guy there that was going to kill Tommy Robinson, or they found out was going to kill him, A person serving a life sentence. The solution was to put Tommy Robinson in solitary confinement. Is that what we're hearing? He's in solitary confinement for the rest of his imprisonment, sir.

[Peter McElven]

Well, Steve, great to be on with you. That is what the courts have said. He has been solitary confinement for about 140 days, maybe 138 days. As I join you. He was arrested for showing a film. He was the lowest level prisoner that is a civil offense, category D offence. He was originally put in a Category A prison, Belmarsh, the top security prison in the uk. And I, I had gone to visit him when he was there, back to two and a half years ago. He was then moved in the middle of the night to another prison, a Category B prison, but held in the. The maximum containment unit of that prison. And, yeah, he is held in sultry confinement. I know the government refused to call it solitary confinement. They call it containment or restricted access, but that basically is 22 hours a day in a cell. He doesn't see anyone. He is allowed out by one guard. He goes and he is allowed in the gym by himself for two hours and then back in the cell. That is it. He doesn't see except the individual, the guard, who walks him to the gym and back again. So that is solitary confinement. The court yesterday. So he was in court yesterday and they have said he is in solitary confinement for his own protection. He has never asked to be in solitary confinement. He shouldn't actually be in a category B prison for a minimal offence. He should be, should be a slap on the wrist in the fine. That's another issue. The third issue is he is in solitary confinement. The prison authorities have put him in a prison as 35% Muslim. Now, Tommy has spent his time speaking up against that clash that Islam has with the West. He has spoken out of the Muslim rape gangs, the grooming gangs that we have had in the UK since at least 1975 for 50 years. So, of course, if you put him in a prison of 35% Muslims, they're going to be a bit pissed off and they're going to possibly take it into their own hands to deal out their own justice. But why has the British establishment put him in a prison where actually a third of the prison is Muslims? And it's highly likely actually he would be endangered. So the government are arguing a situation that they've put him in and he doesn't need to be in. And, and showing a film is not a 18 month solitary confinement prison sentence. And I don't know anyone who is in for contempt of court for that length of time and is normally a slap on the wrist, maybe a fine, few thousand pounds. But because Tommy is enemy of the state, there is no one like Tommy Robinson. And from the 1st of January, when Elon Musk posted Free Tommy Robinson, the world is aware of the work that Tommy has done and the pressure that has been put on him by the UK establishment, by the UK state, by the police, by the courts, by the politicians. And we only have two politicians to speak up for Tommy. In the House of Commons it's Rupert Lew mp, and in the House of Lords it is Lord Pearson of Rannoch. Lord, Those are the two people in nearly 3,000 people in parliament that actually will speak up for Tommy. Why is that?

[Eric Bolling]

Why has no one pick up the cause of Tommy Robinson, particularly what he's done about the rape gangs and about the radical Islam in the heartland of the United Kingdom?

[Peter McElven]

I think it's because it's a fear. It's a fear of having what we call a race riot. And that was why the police said they didn't get involved in the grooming gangs, because they were worried about a race rat. So you don't want to touch on this issue because it has religious and racial connotations and as we saw in the Danish cartoons, you don't want to point the finger at Islam and critique Islam because you have huge violence in the streets. If you do so, it is much easier and makes more common sense in a multicultural cultural society to keep your head down, to keep quiet, to allow these hundreds of thousands of white girls, white young girls, to be raped by Muslim gangs. Actually let that continue because if you speak up, you will have an issue on your hand. And the girls that are actually being targeted, they are deemed as lower class, not only by the Muslim grooming gangs, but actually by the establishment. And that is the sad part, that our courts, our police, our politicians see them as disposable. And I know you've spoken about this regularly, Steve, and Raheem has focused on this is a huge issue and probably the biggest stain in Britain for the last hundred years.

[Eric Bolling]

Hang on for a second, Peter. I know it's late there. You've got guests. Julie Kelly's going to join us. She's under time pressure. But I've got to talk about these no go zones. Short commercial break. We're going to return in the war room with Peter McElvena. Just a moment. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is already sinking and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit an all time high the first part of 2025 multiple times. It's not too late for you. The company I trust to help you diversify into physical gold is Birch Gold, the company I buy my gold from. Birch Gold specializes in helping you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold for no money out of pocket. Just listen to this five star review, quote, knowledgeable, helpful, non pressure, end quote. That's what you get with Burch Gold and that's why I've endorsed them for so long. Get your free info kit on gold by texting the word Bannon B A N N o N to 989-898. There's no obligation, just useful information. With an A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and countless five star reviews, text Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 and let the experts at Birchgold help you secure your financial future today with gold.

[Julie Kelly]

The Trump administration is back in court in front of Judge James Boasberg. Boseberg is still waiting, by the way, for answers to his questions about last Saturday's deportation flights. Boseberg called the latest response from the DOJ quote, woefully insufficient and he also said the government again evaded its obligations. The DOJ is denying this, instead calling Boasberg's request for information, quote, inappropriate judicial overreach. Joining us now, MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin. What's happening in court right now? So there's been a lot of conversation, Katie. First of all, we are not going to get answers today about those flights. And that's because Judge Boasberg has given the administration until the 25th to determine definitively whether or not they're going to invoke something called the state secrets privilege. If they do, that will be a legal argument by them that they never have to provide that information, that they are justified in withholding that even from a judge who has a top level security clearance. But what they are talking about right now is the judge's power to determine whether or not the people who are part of the first two flights that left on Saturday are appropriately within the ambit of the Alien Enemies Act. To begin with. You noted at the beginning that the Trump administration has argued repeatedly this is a judge who has overstepped his boundaries. And Judge Boasberg fighting back a little bit with the government's lawyer today, noting that there is a bunch of case law from earlier world wars that sets up quite nicely the fact that courts do have a role to play here in determining whether somebody is, for example, a foreign enemy at war with the United States or somebody who is part of an actual or attempted invasion against the territory of the United States by a foreign nation or government, which are important words here because Trinidad is not formally any country or government. The Trump administration's argument is that essentially it is an arm of the Venezuelan government. But there's some real stretching there that has to take place in order to bring what they are trying to do within the plain language of the Alien Enemies act, which is the the legal predicate for the deportation flight.

[Eric Bolling]

Okay, Julie Kelly, we've seen there in this narrative war how the left portrays this. And MSNBC is all over this with their top legal correspondents. What say you, ma'am?

[Lisa Rubin]

So I also listened to the hearing today before Judge Bosberg. It was about an hour and a half. He opened the hearing by blasting the Department of Justice, saying that their responses to him have intemperate and disrespectful and that he has this is something he rarely sees in responses by the government. So he is really offended at some of the words that the DOJ has used while at the same time going out of his way extra judicial steps to protect what he described today as the due process rights of illegal Venezuelans who are here and suspected members of what has been designated a foreign terrorist organization, organization, tda. So he repeatedly condemned the doj, accused them of not being forthcoming with him, said that they have not been cooperative. At one point he scolded the DOJ attorney and Bosberg said, you know, I tell my clerks when they leave my office to go out into the world that the one thing that they really have is their integrity and their reputation. And I think this is something that you need to remind yourself of. He said to the DOJ attorney, because of course, Steve, what he's trying to do is set up this contempt trap that we've been talking about all week, whether those two flights that took off during the hearing that began at 5:00, whether those flights were able to be turned around, explanation as to why they were not turned around, which he gave in a weird verbal order. He said at about 6:48 on Saturday night, the flights had already left Texas an hour beforehand, but also then this third flight that took off after he posted his minute order. And what he seems to want to do is not just find someone in contempt of his order, but then also establish due process relief for these Venezuelans accused of being members of tda so they make sure that they have their rights covered. Something he was not too concerned about. In 70/J6 cases that he handled.

[Eric Bolling]

This is heading. He did give them to the 25th though, to say if they were going to exert not executive privilege, but State Secrets Act. Is that correct?

[Lisa Rubin]

Privilege, State secret privilege. Correct. That's something that the Department of Justice in a filing this week suggested that they said that they were considering to keep these granular details about these flights away from Jeb Bossberg. He does not need to know the details of these flights, where they landed, who was on them, who directed them, was anyone taken into custody. He doesn't need to know that information. And the DOJ has told him, we have abided by your orders. That's not enough for him. So what he asked for today, Steve, that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch, as if he doesn't have more important things to do, had to sign a sworn statement filed before Judge Bosberg this morning saying that, yes, confirming there are cabinet level discussions about invoking state secret privilege to keep this national security and foreign policy decisions away from this reckless partisan hack, Jeb Bosberg.

[Eric Bolling]

Do you think that the effort that's out there publicly to impeach him has gotten to this guy? That's why he's dug in even harder because both sides seem placable. Right. There's, there's a gulf there, you can see. And it only gets deeper every day. May not get wider, but it's getting deeper.

[Lisa Rubin]

Well, he did say because of course the public line has now been reopened for all of these proceedings. They were closed for three years during J6 trials and hearings. But all of a sudden now the public, including reporters like myself can phone in and listen to what's happening in courtrooms. And he did say at one point I understand that there is great unusual public interest in this case. And he was asking the DoJ to confirm that basically he's not defending all terrorists. He is just has concerns about this certain proclamation by the President and who it specifically covers. So he's well aware of the bad press that he's getting. But look, he, he does not care. He does not, he doesn't even care if he's reversed by the D.C. circuit Court because the oral arguments in this case before the appellate court are Monday afternoon.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah. And he's, he's, you know, he is defending due process rights for a terrorist designated organization that the Commander in Chief did to protect the security of citizens and the country. Julie, I want to go to this. I guess it was a opinion yesterday from the, from the judge on the Social Security on Doge at Social Security is about 130 pages long. It was pretty brutal, was it not, ma'am?

[Lisa Rubin]

I wish I had had time to read it today, but I was covering this. And also doj. More breaking news. DOJ asking for the recusal dismissal of former Chief judge Beryl Howell. That is Jim Bosberg's, Judd Bosberg's predecessor Beryl Howell asking for her to be removed from the lawsuit filed by Perkins Co in the President's security clearance executive order against that firm. So there was some other breaking news on that. Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to cover the Social Security one.

[Eric Bolling]

But has the government responded to the Social Security? Do you know that? Because this was actually pretty brutal. 132 pages. Do you know if the government has responded to it yet?

[Lisa Rubin]

I don't, but I can certainly look that up and hopefully give you an answer on Monday.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, we'll talk on a Monday. Quite brutal. These guys are coming in hard and I think they're getting ready to file. I think the suit's getting ready to be filed on the Department of Education. Although President Trump did say he was sending the loan portfolio the 1.7 trillion to be managed by the Small Business association and everything to deal with the disabled children and everything to deal with school children and health, he was putting over to hhs. So he basically gutted the Department of Education today. Your sense on, on this one, this kind of main event? We got about a minute or so. How do you think this plays out next week? Because like I said, the two sides are not getting closer here. One side's going to win, one side's going to lose. I Andy Biggs is going to be here in a while on next block.

[Lisa Rubin]

Okay.

[Eric Bolling]

We're definitely getting some moment. We're getting some momentum on this impeachment effort because I'm talking to a lot of people behind the scenes and they're saying, hey, they think it makes sense and they want to drive it when the House convenes next week. Your thoughts, ma'am?

[Lisa Rubin]

Well, I think there definitely is momentum for impeachment, or I believe what Andy Biggs is looking at is jurisdiction stripping, reassigning some of these judges or just stripping them of their jurisdiction. Of course, you and I have talked about this for years as well. But if Jeff Bosberg is overturned by his own appellate court on this, that should give even more evidence as to why he should face impeachment. Because what he did in ordering planes back, setting a contempt trap, unnecessarily burdening top Department of Justice officials and the White House in his crusade to try to undermine President Trump's foreign policy and immigration agenda. If he is reversed, this should certainly result in impeachment hearings for him.

[Eric Bolling]

Julie Kelly, where do people get you over the weekend until you join us again on Monday, ma'am?

[Lisa Rubin]

Well, they can get me online. I'm not going to tell you where I'm going to be this weekend, Steve, but I will be. You could find me declassified with Julie Kelly and X Julie Underscore Kelly, too.

[Eric Bolling]

Julie Kelly, look forward to seeing you on Monday. Have a great weekend. Thank you, ma'am.

[Lisa Rubin]

You, too. Thanks. Steve.

[Eric Bolling]

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[Donald Trump]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Eric Bolling]

Okay, Tommy Robinson's been in a prison for 18 months. He's in solitary confinement because he stood up and tried to defend these young girls about these gang rapes in these old industrial cities in the heartland of England. There's a report out from the Middle East Forum. It's one of the best analytical groups out there about no go zones throughout Europe. The thing's out of control. They talk about sending troops to Ukraine. They're going to do this. They're going to talk all this big talk. It turned out they're not going to do anything. There's 20,000, you know, it's a peacekeeping force. They can't afford it. The country's already kind of saying, well, who are we going to pay for this? But this story about no go zones. McElvena, this is what Tommy Robinson's kind of talking about. Why is he riding in prison in a prison that's 1/3 Muslim in solitary confinement. When this issue is before it's up in the grill of the British people, why do they look away from it?

[Peter McElven]

Because they fear someone pointing out that multiculturalism has utterly failed. And that MAF article is fantastic. And it shows the no go zones all across Europe. Not an area that legally you cannot go, but an area where if you go, you realize this is not where you should be. In terms of the shops, in terms of a lot of the Islamic shops selling halal food, you cannot get normal food, non halal food. You see the Arabic signs everywhere. And I remember the very first time in London when I got the underground, the metro, the tube, and came up in East London in a place called Mile End. And I get up and I looked around and I thought, where am I? I use my card. I went on the underground from somewhere in England and I've arrived somewhere that is not England. And I looked around. I didn't recognize the names of any of the shops, didn't recognize the signs because they were all in Arabic. And I was surprised and confused where I was. And that is happening across England. It is happening up in the heartlands of North England, up in Yorkshire, in Times, it used to have a church in every street corner and they now have a mosque on every street corner. The call to prayer. Then if you go into Paris, if you go into Brussels and the report talks about the Netherlands, Brussels is 30% Islamic. Paris has the running battles between Islamic groups in those ghettos and Paris is 15%, London is 12%. And how London has not actually sparked a mass riot, an aggressive riot, a violent riot, is only by God's grace, because actually the pressure is there. And as the Brits, as the English move out of the cities, into that vacuum comes Islam, and Islam dominates. Islam is vocal. Islam is forceful and it demands. It has its shops, it demands. It has its schools, it demands the headdress, it demands Sharia courts, of which we have 85 in the UK and the government refused to engage on that. All these issues Tommy Robinson has talked about for 25 years. And because of that, he's been criticized, he's been maligned, he's been marginalized and attacked by the mainstream media, by the courts, by the government who are afraid of him because he has the support of the people, he's the support of the working class. Those on the ground who see this happen in their communities and the government in their ivory towers refuse to accept what is happening, or they're the ones making it happen and hoping that the population don't realize. And Tommy has an appeal that no one else has in the UK and that's why the state are afraid of him. And that's why his first book called Enemy of the State. He is an enemy of the state because he calls out these things as they are.

[Eric Bolling]

And that's why Tommy Robinson is in prison and that's why Tommy Robinson is in solitary confinement. And that, that is why Tommy Robinson's a man of courage and a hero in trying to save lives, Islamic lives also. Tommy Robinson is a hero and that's why he's imprisoned. So endeth the lesson, Peter, where they.

[Peter McElven]

Get hearts of oak, they can get us artsofoakuk on Twitter. Of course they can find us on War Room Rumble and Getter. And we're on every Monday, Thursday and Saturday. And can I say, Steve, I'm not gonna buy anything from shop until I see you actually showing off all those clothings. I want to see those caps on you. I don't see the T shirts. I want to see you holding the mug. Not just that one T shirt. So I'm holding off until I see you as the model with all those clothing.

[Eric Bolling]

It's my premium free Constantinople. Come on, man. That's the big one. Peter, thank you so much. I know it's late there. I know it's late there. Who booked this guy? Talk to the booking. Thank you, Peter. Love you guys. Love Hearts of Oak. See it up on War Room. Honored guest, one of the real fighters in Congress, Congressman Andy Biggs. Congressman Biggs, first, we've got some business to take care of with you today. But I want to address, we just had Julie Kelly on here about this fiasco this afternoon in a federal court about President Trump, the commander in chief, trying to get rid of and get out of the country a terrorist designated organization of Venezuelan criminals. And having a judge step in the middle of that. You've been very vocal about different alternatives. Can you give us your assessment of where we stand now with this judicial insurrection, given your career as a prosecutor, sir?

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. What's gone is the judiciary is utterly out of control, Steve. So when you think that there's been something north of 130 lawsuits filed to stop President Trump and any of his actions, you know that the, that the federal judiciary is out of control. So let me give you some examples of what needs to happen. First of all, we have the check. We have the checkbook. We can defund them. Second of all, under Article 3, Section 1 of the Constitution we create all federal courts other than the US Supreme Court, and we grant or remove jurisdiction from all those courts. So we need to remove jurisdiction from place to place so you don't get these nationwide injunctions. Piece of legislation I've got pending right now needs to get a hearing, needs to go forward, needs to get off the floor and get over to the Senate. But I'm going to give you. And then people say, well, let's impeach. That's an Article 2, Section 6 issue. And you can impeach. Your standard of proof is going to be different. You're going to have to prove some stuff. You can get them out of the House. And I have no doubt that we can come close to impeaching in the House. But you won't get the conviction. You're not going to get removal. I'm going to tell you now how I think we can remove these judges. Everybody thinks that these judges have lifetime tenure. Everybody's told that, but that's not accurate. Article 3, Section 1 says these federal judges, all federal judges, including U.S. supreme Court justices, only can serve a tenure of good behavior if they are found to be in good behavior. So let me tell you what I think needs to happen. This has never been approached in the entire history of the United States. But this is different than impeachment. And I am asserting that Congress should actually pass a resolution saying, judge, you are not in good behavior. You're not consistent with the constitution anymore, Article III, Section 1, and thus you are terminated, you are fired. That does not require an impeachment. It doesn't require the super majorities that impeachment does. What it does is it says, we resolved, you are in bad conduct, and you need to go.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, have you begun to socialize that with your colleagues? Because I love it. I love outside the box thinking. And, brother, that's pretty breathtaking. It only can come from the mind of Andy Biggs. Are you starting to run this up the flagpole with your colleagues?

[Steve Bannon]

Yes, I am. I've started it. I've talked with some folks on Judiciary Committee, including some who have actual control what goes on in Judiciary Committee. I mean, I'm pushing that because I do believe that's the way it needs to be. My team is drafting legislation. I'm working with them to draft that resolution, that resolution. I'm hoping that we can get it to go forward next week. This has never been done in US History, and I believe it's simply because people have bought into the notion of lifetime tenure, which is not what the Constitution says so. Yeah, I'm socializing it, and we need to get it done.

[Eric Bolling]

Let's go ahead and play. I've got some clips from another congressman and also from two congressmen, one at a rally today, the other the other day. Let's play it. I want to have your observations and whatever actions you think are appropriate here, sir.

[Lisa Rubin]

On March 29th, it's my birthday, and all I want to see happen on my birthday is for Eli to be taken down. Yes, Listen. I have learned, as I serve on the Doge Oversight Committee, that there is only one language that the people that are in charge understand right now, and that language is money. And so I've been so proud to see us organized behind a cause, because here's the deal. The things that we're fighting for, we are fighting for our country. We're fighting for democracy. We're fighting for our freedoms. And oligarchs will back his campaigns and.

[Julie Kelly]

Bankroll those of his allies.

[Eric Bolling]

They scratch his neck, this scratches theirs. And all of us are left behind. Okay, Congressman Crockett's there to take out Elon Musk in a fight. And you've got. And you've got AOC at this rally where somebody starts saying, bring out the guillotines. Rhetoric's getting kind of heated. What do you think, Congressman Biggs?

[Steve Bannon]

Well, Steve, I think the rhetoric is abominable. It's not what we would call political discourse. It's not civil discourse. And so today, I sent a letter, joined by a number of my colleagues, to FBI Director Kash Patel. And I've reminded him what USC section 1818 USC section 233 5, says about domestic terrorism. And that's what's happening here. And domestic terrorism includes people who are inciting, and they're using this domestic terrorism to actually try to intimidate government officials to change policy. That is what you are seeing happening here. And these. These members of Congress, they're just as culpable, criminally, quite frankly, as, in my opinion, as those that are actually throwing the Molotov cocktails at the Teslas and are doxing people just simply because they own cars. What they are saying is that they want to see these people punished physically and violently. That is contrary to law. That's domestic terrorism. I think Pam Bondi and Kash Patel, I think, want to get on this. And so we sent that letter to Director Patel, and we want to see some action.

[Eric Bolling]

We're going to get the letter up here. A momentary. The president's right there. The president looks like he's going to on Air Force One. The ironic thing is that these were all the liberals that loved him when he was on the left, when he first started Tesla as electric vehicle company and all the owners are lefties and the people throwing the Molotov cocktails are lefties. What does that tell you?

[Steve Bannon]

It tells you that they don't want truth to get out. It tells you that they're double minded. It tells you that they are hypocritical and quite frankly, they're the authoritarians. That's what they are. So if somebody has a change of heart or mind like Elon Musk, and I don't even know that Elon Musk has changed to be conservative or not, what I would suggest to you is he's trying to find efficiencies in government and they simply do not want to find those efficiencies in government. And so they'd rather resort to violence. And you know what that is. That's their motivation for domestic terrorism.

[Eric Bolling]

What do you hope that Kash Patel does with this letter?

[Steve Bannon]

I hope he opens an inquiry and begins looking at to see the connection between these individuals who are fomenting violence or fomenting vandalism and determining whether they should be appropriately referred for charging to Attorney General Bondi for violation of 18 USC 233 5A. And that's really what I'm hoping to happen. I want that inquiry. I think the American people, they're sick of this type of stuff where most people in the country, they support the effort to find go after waste, fraud and abuse in our government. And in the meantime, you've got a fraction of these people that are decided they're going to create violence and mayhem.

[Eric Bolling]

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[Donald Trump]

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[Eric Bolling]

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[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, here's the reality. What we were told and what I believe is certainly going to happen is impoundments, and I believe that's gonna happen very quickly. And what an impoundment is for, for folks to understand is that's when the, the executive branch, in this case, President Trump says, yeah, the legislature gave us this much authority to spend, but I'm not going to spend that much money. That's the impoundment President Trump is going to follow with. He's been working on with Russ Vote and others of us have had a little bit of input in that. So you're going to see the impoundments. I think that's very short order. And when I say short order order, I don't mind saying I expect it to be in the next couple weeks because that's what I was told would happen. The other thing is rescissions package. The rescissions package, Steve, that's where you go in and you actually rescind programs and, and there are ways to do it. So there's a couple ways to do it. One president could give us a letter saying rescind all this stuff here and then we'd have to vote on it. There's something else, you know, there's other procedures where we won't even have to vote. And he could actually rescind programs, agencies and departments. And I anticipate that will happen. But that's not probably not going to happen until later this summer. That's a little bit later in the summer.

[Eric Bolling]

The rescissions might not. But the impoundments, you expect that we're going to have to maybe litigate that, sir? Probably.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. I think you're going to get stuck litigating both just because of the litigious nature of the left now, but the impoundments, because you have the 1972 Budget Control and Impound act, there will be folks that come in and say, wait a second, you can't let's. This is the absurdity of the argument they're about to make. They're going to say if the legislature gave you $100 million and you found a way to do the exact program that you were authorized to do and you could do it for only $2 million, we still want you to spend the other 98 million. That's what the people who are going to come in and file the lawsuits are. But yeah, that's going to be litigated for sure. Don't be surprised if you see the rescissions package get litigated as well. That's why we get back to what you and I were originally talking about, which is the judiciary and how it's run amok. And they need to know that they can no longer be judicial activists, try to be super legislature from the bench. They have to invoke. They have to follow the law. They have to. They're not supposed to interpret the law. They're supposed to apply the law. That's what the courts are supposed to do.

[Eric Bolling]

Congressman Biggs, you're now running for governor. Your hat's in the ring. Where do people go to get all the information about you, what you're doing in Congress to cut spending, to try to balance a budget and your campaign for governor of Arizona, sir, if you.

[Steve Bannon]

Go to biggs.house.gov you're going to get all the official information, including my newsletter, access to teletown halls, all of those things. If you go to my campaign, you're going to go to bigs4Arizona.com and you can sign petitions, donate, you can get the latest news. And I hope everybody were to follow me on the social media, because if you do, Steve, you're going to see links between you and I and others, great conservatives and what's going on with my campaign.

[Eric Bolling]

Congressman Biggs, good luck. You're a good man. Have made a big impact in the House. And President Trump thinks. I know President Trump thinks very highly of you, sir. Thank you. Andy Biggs is a fighter. Mike Lindell's a fighter. They're trying to put him out of business. I saw Letitia James and his attorney general, all of them, Ellison, all having a big confab. I think it was in Minnesota. And Ellison's trying to put Mike Lindell out of business. How's it going, Mike? On a Friday afternoon in March, sir?

[Mike Lindell]

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