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Episode 4374: And There's More. The Heckles Of The Left; Breaking The Back Of Lawfare
Episode 4374: And There's More. The Heckles Of The Left; Breaking The Back Of Lawfare ...
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Rachel Maddow
That is blocking Trump from sending anybody else to that El Salvador prison the way that he did those several hundred men. It remains to be seen if the courts will also order Trump to return those men from El Salvador. But just in case Trump had designs on sending people to yet another random country to which the deportees had no connection, a federal judge tonight in Massachusetts has blocked him from doing that. Want more? There's more. Today also, a federal judge has blocked Trump from shutting down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Trump had tried to fire most of the people who worked there and then told the remaining people who were still there that they were not allowed to do any work. And then he shut down the physical headquarters of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. But now a federal judge has issued an injunction blocking Trump from doing any of that. She has, as of tonight, ordered Donald Trump to instruct the government to reinstate the employees of the CFPB and to preserve the agency's contracts and their data. But wait, there's more. On Trump's week one botched and incoherent order to cut off all federal spending, all federal grants. Now a federal appeals court has upheld the lower court rulings that shut him down on that. On Trump's ham handed White House proclamation that all so called probationary employees had to be fired from multiple agencies. That's the one they soon realized was so blatantly illegal, they tried to take it back and pretend that it had just been a suggestion all along. Well, now a federal appeals court has upheld yet another of the lower court rulings that shut Trump down on that one as well. Oh, do you want more? Do you want more? Because there's more. Just before we got on the air tonight, we got a late night ruling from yet another federal judge who has issued yet another ruling blocking Trump, this time on one of his authoritarian fantasy executive orders by which he targeted a major mainstream US Law firm. This is a scene in New York City earlier this week. Protesters with signs reading Paul Weiss Cowards of the Year and Paul Weiss, profiles in cowardice. Paul Weiss, what will you tell your children? Paul Weiss is not a man. Paul Weiss is a law firm. And two weeks ago, after President Trump issued an executive order terminating federal contracts with Paul Weiss and suspending security clearances for the firm's lawyers, Paul Weiss caved the firm went to the White House and signed some sort of deal with Trump, made some sort of deal with Trump that includes them giving tens of millions of dollars in free legal work to causes that Trump supports. As I mentioned at the top of the show, Trump has been picking on law firms one by one, threatening them, trying to scare the legal profession into not challenging him in court and not representing people he's targeting. And even as rich, highbrow firms like Paul Weiss and now Scadden Arps have gone to Trump and offered him tens of millions of dollars in free legal services for his chosen causes to try to save while he attacks the legal profession and the independence of the judicial system. These two firms, I believe, ruining their reputations and likely ending their businesses in the process of doing this. Turns out the rest of the legal profession is wiser. The rest of the legal profession is realizing it's time to fight. The first firm to fight back was Perkins Coie. Now today, two more, and at least thus far, they're winning. Today, Jenner and Block and Wilmer Hale both sued Trump after he signed executive orders that also targeted targeted them. Tonight, in two separate courtrooms, two separate judges sided with the firms and blocked Trump's actions against them. At least for now, Trump is attacking the rule of law by attacking the machinery of the law. So much depends on how the lawyers at the center of this attack choose to respond. And experts who see this sort of autocratic breakthrough and the effort to try to change fundamentally the legal system in this way say that the timing on the fight back really matters. It's basically now or never. This is from Scott Cummings, professor of legal ethics at UCLA Law School. He studied the decline of legal systems in autocracies. Professor Cummings says this quote, in the US the window for action is closing, and when it does, there will no longer be opportunities for meaningful action against the lawyers in charge of this radical democratic takedown. Once this happens, as it has in other autocracies, the bar will be captured by the regime and levers of influence will be eradicated. The clear lesson from these regimes is that a wait and see approach does not work and attempts at appeasement end up facilitating autocratic consolidation. Ultimately, democracies die when people lose hope that change is possible. We must not succumb to this pessimism. Say that American lawyers, lawyers and law firms should learn the autocratic legal playbook in reverse, basically, to be able to anticipate it, to be able to proactively fight against it. In practical terms, what would that look like?
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Scott Cummings
Well, I think in practical terms, right now they're way out ahead, right? I mean, they've, they've run far out ahead of the opposition. I think people are starting to catch up to the idea that this is actually systematic. It's coordinated, it's targeted, it's well thought out. And we need to do the same to protect democracy. Democracy and to prevent the playbook from being successful in this particular case. You know, I think that what learning the playbook in reverse looks like now is to really think ahead, right? To, to put yourself in the mindset of an authoritarian leader like Trump and to think ahead at what steps they want to take and where they want to go. And I think if you look at autocracies that have consolidated around the world, or people talk a lot about Hungary because a lot of the Trump lawyer team has studied Hungary quite intensively. If you look at what happens in the future, right. A few steps ahead, and every single one of these countries, the, the, the important point to remember is that in none of them do leaders do all the things that Trump is doing, take aim at all of these independent institutions and then just walk away and call a new election. But they're doing this to stay in power permanently. And so in practical terms, what we need to be doing now is to think about what it would look like for Trump to try to stay in power permanently and to start protect the democratic institutions that will prevent that from happening.
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
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Steve Bannon
It's Saturday the 29th of March in the year of our Lord 2025. We are live here from our Denver studios, I should say Denver adjacent studios down in Centennial, Colorado, the real America's Voice headquarters. Just absolutely amazing facility, amazing team here. Got to meet a lot of the folks today that we yell at every day, all in good spirit. They're absolutely fantastic. You saw right there, and we've been telling you that this, take this confrontation, one of the primary lines of battle here is against these kind of neo Marxist judges in the legal profession, the judiciary, this radical judiciary is the anvil, the deep state is the hammer. And that's what we're going to try to crush the MAGA movement and President Trump and President Trump's second term in doing. We have Julie Kelly here. I thought Rachel Maddow from their perspective gave a pretty good what toward the horizon on everything that's going on, folks, you understand we're engaged in this legal fight across many, many, many fronts. Essentially everything you love about Days of Thunder, everything you love about flood the zone, whether it's letting go of personnel, cutting costs, withholding money from certain areas, deportation of criminal elements, even the prosecution of the war's commander in chief of all those. If you go back to the unitary theory of the executive, chief executive officer of the US Government, commander in chief of the armed forces, chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, go back. Always remember the railhead of the theory. Here they are. All the actions we're taking down every vertical is in a federal court and being hotly contested. And sometime now, as Julie Kelly is going to tell us, heading to the Supreme Court. In addition, Rachel Maddows absolutely correct the machinery of the legal profession that is tied up with these neo Marxist judges, this radical people that think they're beyond the law are being confronted head on. Scaddin Arp's, I think probably the most revered white shoe law firm on Wall street in New York City now basically agreeing with President Trump to $100 million of pro bono work after Paul Weiss, the powerhouse behind the scenes, already cratered. Yes, there are some of the more radical, particularly Perkins, Perkins Coreys understand their partners are probably going to go to. So that's why they're fighting so hard. I want to bring in Julie Kelly. Julie, first off, give us the big picture. Rachel Maddow did a pretty good job there. We're fighting everywhere and there's a new federal judge popping up all the time to try to slow down President Trump because their theory is to delay is to deny. Julie Kelly, your thoughts?
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Julie Kelly
Yeah, I'm not sure what Rachel Maddow thought she did in that segment, except sort of make our point that these unelected, unaccountable lifetime partisan political operatives on the bench are undermining, yes, our democracy, which Rachel Maddow has cried about now for the better part of four years, related to January 6th and thwarting the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump to do precisely what he is accomplishing or attempting to in these executive orders. So who is trying to overturn the results of an election now? Rachel Maddow, the Democrats and of course, all of these judges. Now, the district court rulings have really prevailed over the past few months, but now they are headed towards appellate courts and a few matters before the Supreme Court, which we will get to. But there's been sort of a split outcome at the appellate court. I'm not following every single case, but I'm following most of them in Washington. And for example, this week you had a three judge panel. And that's, you know, Steve, that's how it normally goes. You go to a three judge panel, they make a decision, and then whoever the losing party can ask the full court to consider the appeal. So earlier this week, in a 2:1 decision, the appellate court upheld Jeb Bossford's ban on the deportation of Venezuelan terrorists.
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Steve Bannon
That Julie, hang on one second. I just want people to know, the frontline judges in the first off, the frontline judges, 50, 50 or maybe even 60, 40 frontline judges are against Trump on the district level. But at the appellate level, particularly in D.C. the appellate level is essentially all Obama, Clinton and Bush judges. Right. So when you go to the appellate court, there's only a handful of judges and they pick randomly a three judge panel. Normally you're always outgunned at least two to one. And that's why some of these decisions, we traditionally lose 2 to 1. Your choice then is to go en banc, is what it's called to have a full the entire appellate court. But even there, that takes additional time. And even there you normally lose. What you're trying to do is just set up some legal precedents for something you're trying to do at the Supreme Court, correct?
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Julie Kelly
Yes. And usually those en banc requests are denied anyway and they certainly would be in this case, I assume, to your point, the D.C. circuit Court. So the district court is the lowest level. The circuit is the appellate court. Both of those courts have Obama appointees as the chief judge, Deb Bosberg as a district court, and three, I'm sorry that I have to say his last name is the Obama judge who is the chief judge of the appellate court. So those requests, if the Trump administration is seeking them, will be denied. So they skipped that part with the Alien Enemies act temporary screening order, filed a motion before the Supreme Court yesterday. This is the Trump doj asking the Supreme Court to consider emergency motion to put a hold or stay on Botsburg's two temporary restraining orders he issued March 15th. Now, yesterday, important to note, based on a request by the ACLU who's representing the Venezuelan terrorists, Bosberg extended his 14 day temporary restraining order another 14 days. It was set to expire today. So now a temporary restraining order is basically acting as a preliminary injunction.
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Steve Bannon
Exactly.
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Julie Kelly
Next move. I know this is complicated, but which is the next move now? The ACLU is preparing a preliminary injunction motion. I don't know. Why bother? Because he keeps usburg continues to extend the tro at any rate, they found DOJ has now petitioned the Supreme Court to take up their emergency motion. And Chief Justice John Roberts has set a deadline for 10 o'clock Tuesday morning for a response by the ACLU as the appeal process now with the highest court.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on one second. Hang on one second. I'll hold you through the break. Julie Kelly joins us on a Saturday morning here as the lawfare continues unabated. This is why there needs to be the House needs to step in here and have some hearings with these judges answering questions like Judge Louie Gohmert said yesterday. Short break. Back in a moment. Health isn't just a personal issue. It's a family issue, a community issue. We're living in unpredictable times. Supply chains can break down, hospitals can get overwhelmed. And let's not even start on the natural disasters. These aren't hypotheticals. They're happening. You see it here in the war room, and we all know it. The question is simply, are you ready? That's where Jace comes in. This isn't just a kit. This is a Jace case. It's a lifeline. It's a personal supply of prescribed emergency medications that puts the power back in your hands. Whether it's an unexpected illness or a global disruption of supply chains, you can act fast and protect yourself and your loved ones this February. Show them you care in a way that really matters. Be prepared. Get the Jace case today so you'll have the right meds on hand the moment you need them. Visit jacemedical.com and use the code Bannon B a N n o n at checkout for a discount on your order. That's jacemedical.com promo code Bannon. Get the Jace case and do it today.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, welcome back. We got Julie Kelly with us by phone. Julie, one thing for the audience to note is that unlike some of the other efforts in this mass lawfare against President Trump, Judge Roberts and the Supreme Court agreed to take this one on the emergency docket, ma'am.
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Julie Kelly
Well, they for now are asking for a response by Tuesday, so we'll see what happens with that. Not sure if that indicates that they will take it up. I think this happened in another case and they kicked it back. So. And to allow the actual appellate decision to continue. So this appeal just relates to the emergency stay or hold on restraining orders. But they have to really appeal the entire matter, whether court at all has the authority to rein in the president, clear presidential authority, executive authority, to invoke the Indian Enemies act and deport suspected terrorists, which is what this proclamation did on March 15th. So there's sort of two different things happening. But look, we already saw Justice Roberts, who jumped to Jeb Bossberg's defense immediately after the president and others called for his impeachment. If you don't call for impeachment over the disagreement of judicial decisions, that. That's not what this is. We disagree with the judicial decision. This is brazen, flagrant politicking by Jeb Bosberg, where he has a history of saying political things in court. I've already documented that, especially related to January 6th defendants. He calls January 6th an insurrection incited by Trump supporters. He attended President Trump's arraignment in Washington, D.C. on the J6. Obviously, we already know the ties of his family members, his wife and his daughter, apparently working for a nonprofit that directly defends illegal aliens, including suspected TDA illegals from Venezuela. So we'll see what the Supreme Court does. But in another appellate court decision, I can give a little bit of good news. The same panel that upheld Boston on deporting Venezuelan terrorists yesterday overturned two district court rulings, including one by Daryl Howell, saying that the fired members of two boards, the Merit System Protection Board and the National Labor Relations Board, Trump, had fired a member of each one of those boards. The fired members appealed. The district court upheld it, including Darrell Howell, in the case of the fired National Labor Relations board member. In a 2:1 decision yesterday by the same panel, by the way, they reversed those two lower court judges, Judge Howell, and said, of course, firing board members, firing members of boards that are under the purview of the executive branch is presidential authority. It's not unconstitutional. And Cyril Howell said it's not illegal, as Darrell Howell said repeatedly. So that's a little bit of good news.
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Steve Bannon
But hang on, hang on, hang on. That's massive good news. Remember, audience, one of the biggest things that we are contending is that the office of the president and the President of the United States as chief executive officer, under the unitary theory, the administrative state, particularly the Alphabet agencies, report. They're not independent agencies. They actually report to the executive. They report to the office of the president. Therefore, they report to Donald J. Trump if he wants to fire him, he can fire him. I mean, that's the important basis of this. Julie, yesterday's ruling was quite important. It's the first time I've seen in a federal court that somebody's really set up the fact that the president can start to fire certain board members, at least in the administrative state. Ma'am.
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Julie Kelly
Correct. Now, of course, we did see the same appellate court reverse Amy Berman Jackson and her reinstatement of Hampton Dellinger, the Biden appointed head of the Office of Special Counsel. He sued the Trump administration after he was fired, claiming that he's a presidential appointee of Bill Biden had a five year term. Doj, of course, came back from administration and said, no, you're in a presidential position with power. Of course he handled federal workers complaints and reinstated successfully 5,000 fired probationary employees from USDA. But this appellate court came back and said what they said yesterday. These are presidential appointees, but they're, they are still subject to the new and whoever is running the executive branch, which is the president. So, you know, well, as frustrating as this lawfare is, it's sort of useful to clarify, bring some clarity and finality to these debates because we are creating case law now that gives the president a firm legal judicial foothold in explaining what he's trying to do in cleaning up the executive branch. So I do see some upside to.
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Steve Bannon
All of this in narrative war. Just remember what Rachel Maddow and the color revolutionists are doing. This is the two concepts of autocratic breakthrough and then autocratic consolidation. They're saying we're using this to have breakthrough and then we'll consolidate power afterwards, particularly getting the law firms to kowtow. Is it your belief that they've seen enough victories? Because remember, to delay is to deny. Okay, they want to play this out. Do you believe they're seeing enough good news come out of going to these district courts now, even filing a civil suit in the signal chat case that people are saying, oh, it's got criminal criminality underneath it all the law firms, all three of the big law firms are now fighting back in court. Do you believe that the opposition here is seeing enough wins and enough traction, at least in the federal court area, that they're going to continue on or even see a double or triple down of this? Ma'am.
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Julie Kelly
Absolutely. And you and I talked about this after Chief Justice John Roberts made his comment about impeaching judges. First of all, it's not his place to comment on that. Not the judiciary's role to intercede or interject in other decisions that are left to the other one branch, the legislative branch. So he was way over a season out of his lane, but he's buddies with Deb Bosford, so that's why he said it. But yes, I think that that statement and these victories in the district court needs egregious decisions replacing the president, a district court judge, decisions that we have always considered under the purview of the president and having these unknown for the most part district court judges step in, most of them Democrats, of course, to subvert and sabotage the president and his agenda. Yes, I think we are going to see more of this, unfortunately. And to your point, yes, to deny to Delay is to deny. But also this really hamstrings the Department of Justice who has a lot of other things that they want to be doing, including internal investigations into the previous DOJ and FBI. But now they have to dedicate all of this time and resources fighting back. I don't even know how many lawsuits we have now or does it's I.
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Steve Bannon
Think around there almost 50. And they're going to be more. They're going to be many more. Julie, we'll let you get it's a Saturday morning and that means Julie Kelly's on the tennis court. Julie, we'll let you get your tennis game. One of you, you know, you notice Julie doesn't go through hair and makeup on a Saturday morning. It's it's sports day, Julie, where I know you're putting stuff up on something stack. Where do people go to get all your content until we see you early next week.
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Julie Kelly
It is tennis and pickleball day, just so you know. So so I met on Julie Underscore Kelly too and declassified. I've got a big piece up on Barrel Howell last night. Declassified with Kelly on substack.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Great work. Want to go back to Judge Louie Gohmert? We had Judge Gohmert on the other day. It doesn't have to be an impeachment. Remember, you can call them into the House to talk about good behavior that is being worked on over this weekend. I think we're going to see some developments. We have to I actually strongly believe that Stefanik is not going to the U.N. it's not just about holding the seats and we're going to have Florida 1 and Florida 6 on here in the second hour and hopefully even get even get maybe some Wisconsin. Stefanik's not there simply because they're concerned about that seat up in Saratoga up in upstate New York. It's I think they need some stiffening of the spine and some focus over in the House, as Elise Stefanik brought into October and November and December of 2019. When we first started this show, we started as war room impeachment, specifically because nobody on the right, no media was really covering this. We started covering it and I can tell you from our coverage at the time, it definitely changed in the House when Elise Stefanik stepped up to the sticks as a young woman and really took charge of that. We need the House of Representatives get involved here and then get involved in a couple ways. Number one, about funding of these radical district courts and these radical federal judges. The other is like Judge Gohmert said, but you can bring people in for questioning for basically a public deposition. Doesn't mean you're going to impeach them, but you're going to discuss what's going on. So right now, kind of the breakthrough we've got, Judge Roberts has asked for papers on Tuesday to decide whether it's going to be on the emergency docket of the Supreme Court or not. And this is the one that is about President Trump being commander in chief of getting these illegal alien terrorists, criminal terrorists, out of the country. The you would think the lowest simplest bar in the deportations of 10, 10 million illegal alien invaders. They're using the courts and as Rachel Maddow just did at the cold open walkthrough, and they're now, I think it's 48 or 50 in different venues. And wait till they start getting into the state courts, folks. They're using lawfare just like they use lawfare to on stealing the 2020 election on J6, on everything you saw against President Trump in January, in 2021, 22, 23. It hasn't stopped and it's not going to stop until you stop it. This is something I pound the tables on all the time. They're not going fact they're doubling and tripling down. You heard Rachel Maddow. And there's more and there's more like, like, you know, she's selling ginzu knives. You know, that's a heckle to us if you didn't understand that. Folks, folks, she's heckling you. It's time to get serious about this. We have to break the back of lawfare. If we don't do it, you're not going to have a republic. It's quite evident see what's going on in Brazil. And this is why I'm adamant they want to see Trump still in prison. They're just Wetting their beaks right now. Short commercial break. We're back in the war room. Hopefully we track down Djak Posovic down in Texas at the Natal conference next in the war room. You wish you could have invested in the stock market last year when investors scored the highest profits in decades. But between that mountain of bills and credit card debt, you had nothing, and I mean nothing left over. It's time to stop letting debt hold you back. Let me tell you how done with Debt can help. They have a brilliant new strategy designed to tackle your debt and put cash back into your hands so you can save and invest and build the life you've been wanting. Done With Debt goes head to head with credit card and loan companies. Their team of negotiators and legal experts work to significantly reduce your bills, eliminate interest and erase penalties. 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The billionaires control the Democratic Party lock, stock and barrel like they control polis and his entire clique here in this state. They're nothing but oligarchs. And in fact, polis and these guys are just factotums for oligarchs. So in 2028, I made my endorsement. It's Trump. A man like Trump comes along once in a nation's hell. We've had we're blessed by God in heaven and have had two. We had General Washington at the birth of the nation, the revolution and the birth of this country. We had Abraham Lincoln at the rebirth of this nation. And we had Donald John Trump to make America great again. And renew this nation. If we lose the House and don't think we can't lose it, people start leaning on the rakes and saying, hey, Trump's in there. I've seen all this great stuff. But yeah, dude, but look at Florida 6. Look at Elise Stefanik. She's a hero, she's a patriot. She's been thinking about that un job forever. And she went, you know, and she said, hey, if I got to do it, I got to do. I gotta stay in the House. Because what's going to happen in the House is going to be brutal over the next year, Right? And look in Wisconsin, they're up there. If they win those supreme, that Supreme Court judge vote on the first, they're going to take two seats right away. Redistemps. That means if Louisiana and North Carolina hold, which I think it will, that means we have to, basically, if the redistricting is holding those states, we then have to hold New York and California. Or Hakeem Jeffries is going to speaker of the House and Hakeem Jeffries going to raise $2 billion or $3 billion because he's up there telling all those billionaires, you give me the money. The first thing I'm going to do in the first week of January 2027 is Impeach Donald Trump. They're going to do it. It. You watch, they're going to do it. They have no plan. It's destroy Trump and imprison the people around him. And if they were to steal the 2028 election, if they're to steal the 2020 election, they will put Trump in prison. They're all big shots. They're all big shots because Tina Peters is, is a, is a middle class woman that gave her son up for a country. A gold star. A gold star, mother. Think about that. A gold star. The most revered demographic we have in this nation, equivalent to awardee of the Medal of Honor, right? What do they do? They have her in a prison tonight and they're going to transfer it to a worse prison, I guess a jail tonight, in a prison on Tuesday. Well, I got a recommendation. I know President Trump's working and people are working. It's very tough because polis and these guys are dug in. So I got a solution. Cut off all federal money to the state of Colorado until she's free. Shut down the Federal Reserve Bank. Take that court, that court. There's no, there's no law of physics. There's not that I want to shut it all down. You get nothing until she walks out A free woman, and that you apologize to her last night. And I want to thank the GOP in Colorado because they're going to take this state over. Polis is so outside the mainstream. He's embarrassed and humiliated the state over the last year, but he's going to get ground up in the Democratic primary. They're going to point out how radical he is, how from transgender ideology to what he's doing. Remember, the whole reason we're going to the Supreme Court on Tuesday is Polis. He allowed that terrorist group to have a headquarters here in Colorado. President Trump had to come out during the campaign, talk about it. So last night. And Tina Peters, I mean it, 100%. If the local authorities won't work with President Trump and DOJ and President Trump's White House, then, hey, cut off all the money. There's a Federal Reserve branch or a Federal Reserve bank here. I think the branch of Kansas City. The Kansas City main Fed, you know, Main bank, you know, the Fed. Spread out throughout the country. Minneapolis, Richmond, Dallas, Kansas City. Think San Francisco's got one. They got a branch here. They got a federal court. Shut it down. Shut it all down. Cut off all federal money to. Till she walks free and they apologize to her. It's time to play smash mouth. These people, that's all they understand. If there's a way to negotiate with them, there's a way to reason with them. They're beyond reason. You can't. You know, the Bible says, let's come reason together. Can't do that with these people. They're radical Neo Marxists, right? You want to see the destruction of this country? They got radical ideas about culture. They got radical ideas about the economy. They got radical ideas about our sovereignty and our territorial integrity. You can see it right there. I want to bring in Taj. Taj. Good Lord, man. I need a cup. I need a cup of coffee. I gotta get a refill here. I got my. We're traveling, and even here in the Denver. Denver studios, they got Warpath coffee. Talk to me about the coffee. Make me feel better. I got Posto coming up talking about saving Western civilization. He gave a great speech last night down in. In Austin, Texas. He's going to join us here momentarily. Tell me about Warpath.
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Taj Gill
Awesome.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah. By the way, why the hell? This is the first time. Hey, I don't have that. My glasses. Why in the hell did you shave your beard? I can't even recognize you. Where's my Taj? Gil, why'd you shave that beard?
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Taj Gill
Springtime, I always shave in springtime and grow back at the end of the summer.
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Steve Bannon
Okay.
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Taj Gill
For winter.
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Steve Bannon
I got it.
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Taj Gill
You gotta make them happy once in a while.
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Steve Bannon
Tell me about the coffee.
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Taj Gill
Yeah. Warpath coffee. It's the best coffee out there. It's literally the best coffee out there. If you look at our website, it's Warpath coffee. We're approaching 8,000 five star reviews. They're all real reviews. None of them are paid for. We send out reviews after you buy a coffee, two, three weeks later, get a review. And we're actually approaching 8,000 five star reviews on our website, which is pretty amazing. We cannot roast the coffee fast enough. We are constantly roasting and trying to get more beans. It's crazy. The war room posse has supported us like you wouldn't believe. It's insane. And people absolutely love the coffee that the dark roast, it's called Mariners blend. I called it Mariners blend because you were in the Navy and I was in the Navy. So I know you actually love that coffee. The breakfast blend my wife and I created in the summer blend we created the summer blend is a Jamaica Blue Mountain based coffee. It's really smooth. It's a little bit. It's got a little bit more dark notes than the breakfast blend, but it's not as dark as the Mariners blend. And then we've got chocolate, vanilla, hazelnut. We've got a holiday blend. The holiday blend we used to only keep in stock during the the holidays, you know, for Christmas time. And we're running that year round now because people are constantly emailing us saying that they want to buy the holiday blend and subscribe to it year round. So the holiday blend we're running all the time. We've got Trump tumblers. They're stainless steel tumblers. They're made in USA by Liberty Works in Washington state. So we try to do. Of course the coffee comes from overseas. There's not coffee grown in the US but like the mugs, the T shirts, the hats we do made in usa. Even the ceramic mugs we do made in usa. People absolutely love it. And we've got espresso. The espresso is called Italian Frogman espresso. I created that one. It's a light roast espresso. So it's super smooth. So you can drink the espresso black. You don't need any milk or sugar or cream in the espresso. So Italian frogman espresso. And that one is flying off the shelf too. It's crazy.
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Steve Bannon
Now we're going to run a competition. Then we're going to run a competition this spring between my Mariners Blend, the dark roast, and your frogman espresso. It's good because those are two of the people. People that. Towards that side of the spectrum, you know, they're normally either doing espressos or they're doing dark roast, the French roast. So I'll. We'll do that this summer. Where do people go right now to. I want them to read the reviews. Before you buy, read the reviews of your fellow war room posse about what they say to. What they say about this coffee taste. Took a long time to get this up and running, but it's paid off. It's absolutely my favorite coffee, and I'm an aficionado of. Of great coffee. This is the champagne of coffee. Because you don't need cream, you don't need sugar. It's best just to drink it black. You get the full taste of really what coffee's about, where they go. Tash.
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Taj Gill
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Steve Bannon
Yeah.
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Taj Gill
And don't forget to call your senator. We need to get Tina Peters pardoned, get her out of jail.
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Steve Bannon
No, it's ridiculous. I'm do that on Monday when we get back, because these guys are all run. They're all hiding this weekend. It's obscene what's happening to Tina Peters. And she's being transferred from a jail, which they won't allow visitors, and I'm not. That's their policy in jails for anybody. They're not singling out Tina, but they're sending her to a prison. And it's not. It's not. It's not. She's a political prisoner. She's a hostage. And people got to get serious. If you have to cut off all the federal money to Denver and to the rest of Colorado, then so be it. If that's what we gotta play. You gotta play smash mouth with these guys. Yeah. You can't have a gold star, mother. I mean, Taj, how do people, particularly the gunmen and the shooters, people on the front line in these two horrible wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. What do they think when you talk, when you mention Gold Star mother. What's the first thing that comes to mind to a warrior?
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Taj Gill
We've got to protect them and cherish them and support them. I went out two weeks ago. I was down in Phoenix supporting another Gold Star mom, Debbie Lee. We call her Mama Lee. Her son was the first SEAL killed in Iraq. Eli Kane and I were there. And now we've gotta rally and get Tina Peters out of prison. She needs to be pardoned by President Trump. She's gotta be released. She's nothing more than a political prisoner and a hostage.
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Steve Bannon
Well, that's the problem. She's not a federal. This. I keep warning people about these state courts. I warn about Letitia James, Mike Lindell. They're coming after Mike Lindell, the state court. I keep warning Royce White about Minnesota. These are state. These are states. So it's beyond the reach of the federal, of the federal government. That's what you're going to have to use other means. It's time to play smash mouth. Now, President Trump, they've tried all, they've tried all the normal course I think of working with the state and Tina Peters still rotten in jail. So it's not right. Taj, by the way, you made your task and purpose was to make coffee as good as the Navy SEALs equipment, Navy SEALs gear. I think you've succeeded, sir. Pretty. Pretty darn good.
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Taj Gill
Thank you, sir. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's. It's blowing up. It's growing into a monster and just trying to keep the machine fed and keep it running 24 7.
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Steve Bannon
That's good. It keeps you out of trouble. Keeping. Keeping Tage well occupied. His wife. His wife would agree with me. Keeping Tage well occupies the keep. You know, idleness is the devil's workshop when you're talking to Tage Gill. Taj, thank you. One more time. Where do people go? Where do people go?
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Taj Gill
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Steve Bannon
You get that big discount. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. I'll let you go back to work on a Saturday. Working seven days a week. We're taking a short break and then posos are going to join us. Very important conference down in Austin, Texas with NATO, but it's really about families. And as Jack gave the keynote last night, it's about Western civilization and preserving, saving and preserving, nurturing and promoting Western civilization. That's Jack right there at the podium last night. Don't think we've gotten the footage yet. Terry Schilling also trying to get Terry Terry talks today, gives one of the keynotes today. So we're going to also try to get Terry Schilling on here if we put up the Mac Daddy on Drudge last night. President Trump, huge development yesterday. Well, two huge developments. Number one, Market Watch came out and I've been warning you about this. I'm all for Doge, but primarily we must cut the massive federal spending. How we do it, I'm indifferent. We either do it finding waste, fraud and abuse, particularly fraud, or you got to do it programmatically. But Johnson, these guys got to get serious over there programmatically because it's not right now there's a service out there that tracks federal spending. It shows right now, fiscal year 2525, we're spending almost 8% more than we spent in 24. Hate to give you the bad news, that's a fact. President Trump of the Also at the same time is thinking is leaning towards internal discussions to cut multiple taxes for the working class and middle class and raise taxes for the wealthy. Short commercial break Poso with us on the other side. How well do you sleep at night? Real peace of mind comes from knowing your family is prepared for anything. My Patriot Supply, America's most trusted name in emergency preparedness, is offering a time limited discount on the bestselling three month Emergency Food Kit. Now this is the basic the three month Emergency Food Kit. 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All the big corporations big mad at him. Grover Norcrest and all the guys running dogs, all the factotums for the elites, for the billionaires, the big mad. That means Trump's doing something right. Want to go now to Jack Posobec. Jack, you in Austin, Texas yesterday. This natal conference is something we've really supported because the underpinnings of this is the salvation of western civilization. That's what your speech was about last night. Give us an update. We don't have footage right now. We're trying to get it but. But tell us about the conference, really packed with high end media, top speakers, what went on?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Steve, thanks so much for having me on. And the, the conference last night, the Pronatalism conference, it's kind of the opposite to. So I spent all last year writing this book on humans and we've been coming on the war room for all this time talking about it. Well, this is the flip side of that. So we can talk about the enemies of civilization and we can talk about defeating them. And I mean the war room posse knows all about beating the enemies of Western civilization and they certainly are at the gates. But what's the flip side of that? So we say we want to support the Western civilization. We say we want to increase Western civilization. We don't want to be selling out to the cheap foreign labor. We want to deconstruct this system of globalism that puts everything on the back to the American worker, on the Lao Beijing of China. Well how do you do that? And that's pro humanism, right? So to be pro human is the opposite to being unhuman. So what does that mean? Well that means in the speech I gave last night, I said, look, all of this information that we've received, everything that is cast down from our ancestors, our legacy, Western civilization, it's not just ideas, it's not just philosophy in some book. This is actually our heritage. This is our heritage. That our ancestors, the men and women that carved countries and built societies out of wilderness, that built the cathedrals from the Parthenon to the Declaration of Independence, from, from Ben Franklin and his kite to the space shuttle. These are the things that Western civilization has built. And look from for my metal, nobody does it better. And so we've got people from all, really all across the political spectrum who say, you know what, Enough is enough. We need to actually do something to increase the birth rates in the West. This is obviously a problem that's going on. It's Europe, you see it by the way, in the Koreas, you see it in Australia. So it's a global problem that a lot of people are dealing with and we're trying to actually face this head on. And it's an interesting conglomeration, Steve, cuz you've got like, you've got like me and Terry Schilling, you've got traditional Catholics, but then you go all the way to the other side and you've got like venture capitalist, silicon valley tech bro types are all there trying to look at this problem. We come to it from different ways, we come to it from different traditions. But I think the one, and there's going to be actually a series of debates that go up today. Natalism.org is where you can see it. The full, the full conference continues today down in Austin, Texas. And there are going to be serious debates about the things that we should all do, the things that we should all come forward to and understand how to fix this problem. STEVE we even had socialists there. We had socialists there who said, you know what, but we believe we're pro life. So pro life socialists, wrap yourself around that. And they say we want birth and pregnancy and all the appointments and all the rest of it ought to be free. And we think that mothers should get a stipend, grandmother should get a stipend, that this entire process should not be paid for by the mother. And I say, you know something, I want to have a conversation about that. That's an interesting conversation. It's something that, that we don't really look at from our side of the aisle and maybe it's something that we should talk about.
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Steve Bannon
Well, now I tell you who's Orban and the guys in Hungary, of course, Rachel Maddow says that's who we're very focused on Orban's model for autocratic breakthrough and autocratic consolidation. We actually look to Orban. He is a model on many things, particularly culturally, how he broke source and particularly his focus on the family because this is about families. At the end of the day, the whole economic program of Trump is really based around having happy families, companies that have that folks that wage earners can actually make a decent wage. JACK BOSOBIC that's exactly right.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So it's not enough to simply be against abortion. And I think for too long in the conservative movement, the Republican Party, it's been centered around anti abortion and rightly so for the fight against Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade is gone now. So what do you take that you have to also present a positive vision of the future that's all about being proud family, pro worker, having the ability for a family to survive on a single parent's income, to be able to have your home to live in safety and have a good paying job so that, that you don't have to worry about the financial pressures undercutting you from globalists, from all the rest that's going on. It's very simple. It used to be something that we called the American dream.
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Steve Bannon
The American dream. Jack, can you hold on one minute? We're going to take a short, short break. We're come back to Florida one in Florida six. But then I got to bring Jack back in and do some cleanup here on the situation on the signal. It's a non event and the left is trying to make it a big event. Nothing's going to happen. It's a no scalps policy in President Trump's White House. Also, Raheem Kassam be joining us and Terry Schilling. Terry Schilling with another live report, hopefully live report from down at the Natalie conference. We're going to leave you with the right stuff. A magnificent masterpiece of a book, a magnificent masterpiece of a film, an Academy Award winning music from Bill Conti. Short break, 90 seconds. We're back in the war room. The April 15th tax deadline is coming and it's coming fast. Do you have unfiled tax returns? Can't pay the irs. The IRS is more than aggressive and the more aggressive than ever. And the longer you wait, the worse it gets. Wage garnishments, bank levies, even property seizures are all on the table. You need to get ahead of this. You need to get ahead of it today. But going up against the IRS alone is a big time mistake. Take my advice. Call the experts at Tax Network usa. They know the system. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid whether you owe $10,000 or $10,000,000. Their genius strategies are designed to quickly settle your tax problems in your favor. Tax Network USA's attorneys and negotiators have already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Let me repeat that. They've already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Tax Network USA can help you, too, but you need to move. You need to move fast because April 15th is already here. Remember, if you get that letter, don't put it in the drawer. It just metastasizes. Talk with one of our strategists. Today, it's totally free. Stop looking over your shoulder. Stop the anxiety. Stop the worry. Put it all behind you. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon that's Tax Network USA. Go to tnusa.com and of course, the beef liver being our flagship products. For those who don't know, beef liver is loaded with highly bioavailable ingredients such as vitamin A, B12, zinc, CoQ10, etc. And because it is 100% grass fed and natural, your body is able to absorb these nutrients far better than taking any other synthetic multivitamin or any other synthetic vitamin in general. So we have some other amazing products, but if you'd like to check us out, you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com and cheers to your health. 700,000Americans every year. Yes, heart disease is the number one killer every year, year in and year out. Heart disease builds over time. Hypertension, high blood pressure, bad cholesterol, diabetes, all of it affects our heart. A healthy heart is key to being energetic. As we get older, it is never too early to take care of your heart. You see, heart disease sneaks up on us. You can start in your 30s, and when this happens, you're at serious risks by the time you turn 60. If you want to take care of your heart and those you care about, please go to war roomhealth.com that's war roomhealth.com all one word, war roomhealth.com use the code war room at checkout to save 67% of your first shipment. That's code war room at checkout to save 67%. And do it again. War room health. All one word. War roomhealth.com go there today. You need if you're going to be part of the posse, you need a strong heart. You need a lion's heart. How we're going to do that is with salty. Go there, do it today, check it out.