
Episode 4377: The Left's Plan To Steal 2028 And Jail Trump ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Ben Harnwell
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
Matt Palumbo
MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these had a conscience.
Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Matt Palumbo
War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Steve Bannon
Monday 31st March, year of earlier 2025. Wow, what a first hour to get the week kicked off you, yo. Okay, we're grounded. Like I said, we could go nine, ten hours a day and not get to all of it. Caroline Levitt, are you proud of her? I mean, what a hammer. Caroline is gonna reorganize the briefing room there and put the podcasters and the streaming service and people have bigger audiences, have bigger reach and bigger scale than these tiny little dinky things like CNN with all the snarky questions and the Kaitlan Collinsworld giving you the bad face all the time. You don't need it. I wanted to do this back in 17. It clearly was not the time to do it then, it's the time to do it now. I think President Trump just had a belly full of it. You know, I think he's reached his end with these people, and particularly when they're up there and they explain something and they ask the same snarky questions. Want to dole? I think the signal. The signal situation has driven some people over the edge to say, hey, look, you can't. Why even. Why even engage with them? So I think they're going to the back when point. Matt Palumbo, the great Matt Palumbo. Dan Bongino is now Deputy FBI Director. Dan put out a little statement, I think, last night to kind of give an update of what he and Cash are working on and saying, hey, we're grinding away in this thing. And don't think, Chris, we're not making announcements every day that we're not making real progress. Palumbo has been his wingman for years over at the great Dan Bongino Show. So first, I got a lot of stuff to go through with you, but first off, just to get the Audience up to speed. Because given the love everybody's got for Dan and understanding he's left this kind of vast empire he built from nothing. Because I remember when Dan ran for Congress and ran for the Senate, and then when he started, he basically started with himself in a microphone. What's happening with the Bongino report? Is that gonna be updated? Just get us up to speed on that first.
Dan Bongino
Yeah, so the good. Well, first of all, thanks for having me back on. It's good to see we're getting the band back together. Everything's pretty much the same, actually, with Dan taking this temporary leave to work at the FBI. So basically bongino.com was sort of the hub of all the radio and other related shows. Evita Duffy now has a show. And Hayley Carania, I've been calling her Carolina for years. Then Vince Colonier took over Dan's show. But if you go to either Bongino or if you go on bongino.com it'll redirect you to a new site called Silverlock. BonginoReport.com, we were able to keep the Bongino name because Dan's wife obviously has the same last name. So they. The lawyer. So that was fine. You know, it's the only thing that really changed is we can't use Dan's social media accounts to promote anything because it would be. Yeah, you know, he's the FBI director.
Steve Bannon
But, but, but Palumbo. Hang on, hang on. Tell Dan when you talk to him next. Hang on. You say temporary. I hope the temporary, according to Bannon's framework, is 10 years as deputy and then 10 years as director. So it's a temporary 20 year assignment because that's basically, I tell people that's what's going to take to change this mess around. It's not gonna happen overnight. Guys are hammering it. But I can see Dan is 10 years as deputy. Cause Cash's term will be 10 years. And then Dan fleets up at the end of that and he's a director for 10. And he trained somebody, maybe trains Palumbo as his deputy then. So I see dan on a 20 year run. I just say that because I know the media. Media will fully melt down. Bannon says Bongino at FBI for 20 years.
Dan Bongino
On paper.
Steve Bannon
But I mean it.
Dan Bongino
Deputy.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, definitely. Yes. So the Bongino report's gonna be fine. People still go to that. They got the shows up. Now you've started what Spywoke Populist Times. You're working with the Shen Yun guys. And folks, the reason I want to have Palumbo on now, as the engine room told me during the break, they go, bannon, don't miss the plot here. The black hand of the CCP is all over all this judicial thing with, you know, with bribes and they blackmail people and, you know, their hand is in everywhere throughout the world on this judicial revolt against the populist nationalist movement. So talk to us about, besides Bongino, who's gonna be at the FBI for 20 years, what else you got going?
Dan Bongino
At least 20. But at your suggestion. So I started two websites early last year and they, I would say middle of last year, kind of started to take off, but one was Woke Spy.com and it was modeled after Michele Malkin's website TW because I just feel like there was a lot of sort of micro stories on Twitter of some famous left wing professor making a clown out of themselves where it's not worth a 1000 word article, but it's worth a couple hundred words. And then the rest of the Internet making fun of them. Then I did a more, I guess professional is the word to use version of the site called Populous Times, which is for more long form reporting on, you know, right wing topics, obviously. And then I've been publishing some of my Shen Yun related content there as well. I got invited to one of their press conferences last week at the David Koch Theater. And it was on the topic was all of the ways the CCP is working to basically try to thwart those shows and shut them down and in some cases I think cause harm to their performers. And it was a 2,500 word article. I thought it would be 800, but there was just so much content and I felt like there's almost a more moral obligation to make sure you get every possible thing when they were kind enough to invite me.
Steve Bannon
How is the. The CCP is pretty, is pretty focused on taking down the populist national movement, whether that's President Trump in the United States, because they know that this supports Lao Beijing for the freedom of the Chinese people. But they are pretty focused on taking us down here, whether it's through Shenyang, the cultural or also what they're doing on the political side, the infiltration, the cultural centers, all of it, sir.
Dan Bongino
Yeah, I mean like with the Shen Yu and it was like a multi, I would say five pronged attack. But I feel like I'm probably missing things where, you know, one of the things they did that they're also doing to others is they have bought armies on Twitter. And other social media sites of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of fake accounts. And they are used to create this false, you know, impression of consensus on any kind of issue they want. They also pay a lot of YouTube travel bloggers where there. There was this one video that went viral of. It was someone. The script was like, someone's on the 20th floor of a building in China and it looks like you're on the ground floor. And then, you know, their narration is like, you know, you probably think we're walking on the ground. However, this is actually the 20th floor of a building. Then they pan out to, you know, the lower floors. And there were dozens of YouTubers who repeated the exact same line. And these were all people with hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of followers. So just the. The effort to try to portra China as a first world country is one of the big propaganda points.
Steve Bannon
Big Matt, what's the easiest way to track you in all your endeavors? Because you're one of the great voices on the maga, right?
Dan Bongino
So Twitter is mattpolumbo12. Although I can't tell if my content isn't good or if I'm being throttled massively. Unfortunately, it's one of the two. But hopefully your audience can help with that. I think they will like my tweets. That's where I am mainly then. And I'm sure I'll be back to talk about this soon. I've got a book about Alex Soros in the works that I'm really just in the editing stages of that. I think there's going to be a lot of. Well, there's going to be a lot of original information that's just not reported anywhere else.
Steve Bannon
When's the source? Because you did a great book on the father, because the son is like the man. The father's kind of punched out, but the son is the man. And I actually think he's more dangerous than the father because he's gotten more dialed in at an earlier age and he's got a bigger war chest. When is this book coming out?
Dan Bongino
So the, I mean, the original plan was submit it by July 1st, get it out before Christmas. I think I can have it in within maybe two weeks. So hopefully that pushes back the timeline. And you are correct, Alex. Not only has he been running the show, and the official announcement was back in 2023, I think June 2023, but from my research, it seems like he's been running the show in Europe since 2015 to 2016 that has been funding all these rogue district attorneys he's been running since 2022. So I have a whole new chapter just updating the Soros DA list and it's the Alex Soros DA list. And one of the chapters I think people will find the most interesting and I guess funny in an odd way is there was a George Soros DA that wasn't radical enough. So Alex Soros funded his own DA to beat the George Soros da. So that's how radical the guy is.
Steve Bannon
That's not radical. Palumbo, one more time.
Dan Bongino
Your social media matt palumbo12 on twitter.com or x.com I should say thank you, brother.
Steve Bannon
Look forward to thank you, sir, for the book coming out and having you back on. For the book. Ben Harnwell, Europe Soros, Hungary the deep state. Your assessment? Marine Le Pen prison for four years or they say they're going to do, I think put an ankle bracelet on, but they're still going to have home confinement. So she can't campaign. How big a deal is all this, sir? The deep state against the populist nationalist sovereignties. Right.
Ben Harnwell
Well, the Roman classical author Steve Vegetius once said, vice parcem para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war. Well, if you want war, vote for a mainstream political party because that's what you'll get. And this is what I was saying earlier on in the first half of the show, that this battle that the anti establishment, the populist nationalist movement has been fighting for the last 15 years took place first in the cultural sphere, then when we won that, in the political sphere, then when we won that. It's now in the judicial sphere. The reason for this, as I was saying, is because judges being unelected, are unresponsive to popular will. They are the last front of the system in its fight to maintain control. And the element of war here is not, is not unrelated to what's going on. If you look at the candidates who are being excluded by these judges from office, this is their last chance. Why I called it earlier the Custer's last stand of the deep state. So when I said before, I actually have a theory as a suggestion, if anyone wants to listen to it might be a bit edgy of what can be done. I'll just say it in about 30 seconds. The whole. It's not that the judiciary, at least in the French context, that the judge has acted beyond his powers. He has full discretion. A judge has full discretion to do what they've done. Even though, as Jerome said, that the present French prime minister was charged with exactly the same thing a year ago. And he was. Yeah, he's not in prison. The problem essentially is this and this. You'll find this in America. You'll find this in continental Europe. The one country where you won't find this is in England historically, for this reason. And that is when you have a constitution and you base your political authority in that constitution and you base the interpretation and protection of the integrity of that constitution. And elected judges. What we are seeing now around the world was inevitable that a class of judges will stop the political process when their interests are in state.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Far be it for me to say that I have a better feel for the political situation in the United Kingdom than my revered friend Ben Harniwell, but I just think you're dead fricking wrong. The judges there tried to stop, actually got in the middle of Starmers trying to send the immigrants back. Remember, the courts there are starting to rear their heads. Traditionally, you're right, they don't have a written constitution. And that traditionally has made it so they don't have judicial supremacy even co equal branches. But remember, it was Sir Keir that actually came up with the phrase, we have to have the rule of law, not the rule of lawyers. So even in the United Kingdom, which would be the one you least expected, it's raised its ugly head. Has it not been Harnwell?
Ben Harnwell
Steve, your. Your objection is absolutely well played. And the reason is, is that Tony Blair introduced. But no, no, it's warplay.
Steve Bannon
Yes, exactly 100. 100.
Ben Harnwell
Tony Blair introduced for the first time in a thousand years, England, a system that was above Parliament, which is this Supreme Court. The British tradition, however, is that there is, There is nothing above.
Steve Bannon
I know, Parliament.
Ben Harnwell
And that's exactly why Tony Blair did it. But that's exactly why Tony Blair.
Steve Bannon
But hang on for a second. Yeah, hang on, take a deep breath now that I corrected your understanding of modern British politics. Tony Blair did it structurally. But it was the Tories that incorporated what the Human Rights Commission report, remember that? They incorporated it in some piece of legislation. It gave the courts ability to actually instrumentation to effectuate judicial supremacy. In the United Kingdom, folks, it's war of the lawyers against the right globally. Bolsonaro's on trial for his life in Brazil. Le pen, sentenced to four years in prison and up by 12 points. Can't run for the presidency in Romania. They threw out the winner in Bibi, right now the deep State's after him. President Trump. They're trying to send President Trump to jail for life. Write that down. They steal 28 and right now they're trying to shut down. To delay is to deny in his second term. Back in a moment. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is already sinking. And you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit an all time high the first part of 2025 multiple times. It's not too late for you. The company I trust to help you diversify into physical gold is Birch Gold. The company I buy my gold from. Birch Gold specializes in helping you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold for no money out of pocket. Just listen to this five star review, quote knowledgeable, helpful, non pressure, end quote. That's what you get with Burt's Gold and that's why I've endorsed them for so long. Get your free info kit on gold by texting the word Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898. There's no obligation, just useful information with an A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and countless five star reviews. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and let the experts at Birchgold help you secure your financial future today with gold.
Matt Palumbo
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Steve Bannon
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Matt Palumbo
Yeah, I'll just start it off real simple. First of all, Robert Lighthizer was on Tucker and did outstanding jobs. Everyone needs to go watch that. I was on Friday night on your show, Steve, 6 to 7pm and had 20 charts. I'm going to just head right to the tariff story today. But the bottom line is when President Trump comes on and gives his, you know, masterful presentation in a way that can be understood, it's very simple. Have anyone defend the ethics, the justice, the corruption of this current tariff regime we have on the middle class, on middle class jobs in every city that's been decimated. Right? Where's the Wall Street Journal? Get the Economist authors, Get Morning Joe and Mika. They'll all chirp, chirp, chirp, and everyone's putting out their growth rates and whatever. Have anyone come on and morally defend, say the system we have right now is just great for the American people. That's the biggest lie. It's only good for the rich elites. And so let me just show you a few charts and we'll get right. I'll show you in Lighthizer. I'm, you know, copying him. Just start off in 1980. There's China, that big pink ball to the left. China is making $1,000 a year per capita in 1980. United States is the far right richest country in the world. All those yellow dots are Protestant and Catholic countries in Western Europe because they produced science and the Enlightenment and democracy and human rights and everything good. The left has missed all that. Then we started Sacrifice Net. Go for next slide, Denver. You'll see China and India. China's now that giant red ball approach in the United states growing at 10% a year for a decade. And that's because they're doing manufacturing and everything good. That goes with manufacturing, innovation, research and development. They're catching the entrepreneurial piece a little bit. But the one other major piece I want to emphasize is right now the current regime, the reason it's so rich and corrupt is that basically some of the elites are saying, just skip manufacturing. Right? The US in order to scale up and to compete with, with China, we need to have oligarchies and monopolies of a scale to compete with China. So that is the alternative vision, right, the vision that we have right now where the big just keep getting bigger. The auto big three, the big banks, the big health care, the big government, the big tech, the big everything. And the middle class and the lower class is just getting hijacked and robbed from next chart. I've seen some economists come out and say, oh, the real economy slowing right now. Well, no kidding it's slowing. Here's the monetary policy by the elites for the elites. That's fading away. If you don't cheat, which our side doesn't cheat. And that's always one of the big, you know, temptations for our side. Are we going to act like, hold.
Steve Bannon
It, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. Go back to monetary policy. What do you mean by monetary policy? What are you saying here, Professor?
Matt Palumbo
Well, the Fed's just, you see the massive increase in money that came after the 0708 crisis, after Covid 9 trillion on the balance sheet of the Fed. Now it's down to 8, maybe 7.8, something like that. I looked a week ago. So as you withdraw money from the money stock, it's going to slow the economy and there's about a six month lag on that. And then the next chart, the same thing holds for fiscal policy. When you're doing a trillion dollars in debt deficits every hundred days. When you steal from the kids and you count that as government spending and investment, of course it looks good in the short run, but you're stealing from the kids. It's totally unethical.
Steve Bannon
But, but, but hang on, but, but hang on. You're not stealing from the kids anymore, you're stealing from yourselves. This finally has an impact. This is why we did modern monetary theory. What, what has changed here? You have and let's say fiscal policy is about government spending. Monetary policy is about the control of the currency. So one is about money, the other is about process of how money is actually approved or how programs are approved. The fiscal. And here's what we've had, or correct me if I'm wrong, Professor, we've had and you're seeing it happen right now. Now remember, I'm the biggest supporter of the Doge guys in their efforts but we have to start seeing like real numbers. I'm not saying what they're putting up are not real, but it has not translated into, and let me be specific, Market Watch, they have this system that the US Government puts out. And Friday, they did a reality check on Friday, they said, hey, if you take fiscal year 25, which we're in, starts October 1st, as our brain, this audience knows we are 7.8% ahead of actual cash outlays of money spent than we were the year before. So remember the cr, the reason we hated the cr but everybody's agreed, let's go ahead and do it, is that because we're approving Biden's and Pelosi's budget, we're approving a $2 trillion deficit. Now, what we were told, the Faustian bargain we made is that Russ vote and people are going to, we're going to start impoundments, we're going to start rescissions. There's no way the Doge guys continue to fight this fraud. But clearly, certainly we're not insane. We're not going to underwrite the fraud. We're going to somehow catch up even in this fiscal year, as the other train of the fiscal 26 in the appropriations committees starts to take this stuff out and shut it down. What we need to do is start to actually see that because we've been promised once again by Elon on Fox news, Brent Berrigan, $1 trillion at the 6.5 trillion that cuts the deficit in half. You've had this. And here's why I'm not saying I don't like it, but the political class is hiding behind it. They don't have the political courage to actually make the cuts. Now, one of the reasons they don't have the political courage, look at the overwhelming media. You know, just even in finding out where the money is or just with people talking about is there Social Security fraud, which I don't happen to think is as much as people think, but if there is, we got to get to the bottom of it. Even the mention of it, people are in full meltdown, full and complete meltdown. Think about when you actually have to do the cuts. I keep saying all the easy decisions are decades behind us. We don't have any easy decisions anymore. We basically have six and a half trillion. And the trade up is going to be, oh, well, Ben and Brad, you guys are all isolationists, you're all doves. We ain't isolationists and we're not doves. But the world system that it has Today, we underwrite the security of all of it. That's how you get to a $900 billion defense authorization budget. And in the reconciliation, folks, get ready for it. Lindsey Graham these guys are saying it's a minimum of an additional 100 to $150 billion. That puts us over a trillion. Hang on a second. Dave. Dave Brat when I get back. We've had loose monetary policy. In other words, just low interest. Let's print as much money as possible with a breach of fiduciary responsibility as fiscal policy. We have a double whammy that is causing a financial crisis, folks. This is why gold's over $3,100 an ounce. That would be a fact. It's the convergence of these forces that's driving the price of gold up. Why is the price of gold up up? Because the central banks throughout the world are saying, hey, I think they're going to do another drop in purchasing power of my dollar. Short commercial break Dave Brat, Ben Harnwell Stephen K. Bannon on a Monday in the war Room, Health isn't just a personal issue. It's a family issue, a community issue. We're living in unpredictable times. Supply chains can break down, hospitals can get overwhelmed. And let's not even start on the natural disasters. These aren't hypotheticals. They're happening. You see it here in the war room, and we all know it. The question is simply, are you ready? That's where Jace comes in. This isn't just a kit. This is a Jace case. It's a lifeline. It's a personal supply of prescribed emergency medications that puts the power back in your hands. Whether it's an unexpected illness or a global disruption of supply chains, you can act fast and protect yourself and your loved ones. This February, show them you care in a way that really matters. Be prepared. Get the Jace case today so you'll have the right meds on hand the moment you need them. Visit jacemedical.com and use the code Bannon B A N N O N at checkout for a discount on your order. That's jacemedical.com promo code Bannon. Get the Jace case and do it today.
Matt Palumbo
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
One of the engine room the war room engine room. A Marine, a former Marine has notified me in thinking through today's show, Romanian opposition leader banned. Brazilian opposition leader banned. French opposition leader banned. Ukraine suspended all elections. Moldova banned the opposition party. Germany trying to ban afd America trying to ban Trump. On and on and on and on. It's Bearing its teeth. It's bearing its teeth. The one thing we have to do, and this audience is going to lead the charge on it, we have to get our financial and fiscal to be able to combat the deep state. We've got to get the financial and fiscal house in order. One thing we have to do is cut them off from the money. I am admin. I gave this speech about in Colorado on Friday night, and I said, hey, until Tina Peters is released, cut all the federal money off to Colorado. You got to play smash mouth these people and also pass legislation. They got a big district, they got a big federal courthouse, big. That drives tons of revenue. 0 it out these judges here. I think President Trump ought to strip them of their security clearances so then they can't get involved in situations like trying to be commander in chief and stuff. But you got to play smash mouth. Not time to play hardball. He's breaking these law firms. I think the thing with the universities and I think things. The university has been way too tied. And as you know, I'm a big supporter of Israel, but it's in America's interest, in the interest of the Judeo Christian West. This thing has been too tied. The university's too tied to the state of Israel, just too tied to it. It's deeper than that. It's a hatred of America. It's a hatred of the West. They got to purge the faculty senate, they got to purge these administrations. And it's not about if these people are out there protesting for the Palestinians, although I realize that's the Red Green alliance. It's deeper than that. And they got to go, if you want to take this on, we got a shot to take it on now. That's why I'm President Trump. And hey, I say a guy like Trump comes along once in a country's history. Here in our nation, we have been blessed to have General Washington, President Lincoln, and now Trump at the birth of the nation, the rebirth of the nation, and now the restoration of the nation. And if we don't take advantage of it now, every second of every day, we're going to regret that. We're going to regret that. Dave, Brat's up. This is also on Birch Gold. One of the things I'm proudest of in our association of Birch Gold is we're not sitting here every day going, got to buy a gold. Got to buy gold. I've never said that ever, ever, ever, ever. I want you to make decisions. The key to this show is you make decisions. You go to these Websites. You're free men and women in that training. It's like Wellington training his young charges, his young lieutenants, to look over what's on the other side of the hill. Think. Think what's going on. The end of the dollar empire has been a good tool to make you think on something. A lot of people, oh, my God. You mentioned money. You mentioned fiscal. They hated it. There was a. Dave Brett, there was a funny story. And make sure you go to birchgold.com Bannon, you get all the free information and you get to talk to Philip Patrick team. And that's the key. Get connected to these guys about PH gold, physical gold. And folks, don't feel bad if you don't understand this or if it makes your palm sweat. I understand a lot of people don't like math. My kid sister, my beloved kid sister, who I'm closest to anybody in the world is my kid brother. And my kid sister, every night was math with tears. My dad teaching her math. But Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy, he had to be reminded he couldn't keep fiscal and monetary straight. He couldn't. And they actually had a. He actually had a guy, one of his staffers says monetary policy is about money. Monetary policy is about money. That's how he kept the two straight. So don't feel bad if you're out there and you say, hey, this is not my cup of tea, Bannon. You got to learn it. Because you can't understand the political fights. And folks, we're going to have a firestorm. President Trump said on Friday that the word leaked out at the White House that President Trump is saying, hey, guess what? In the extension of the tax cuts that since I'm putting in, no tax on Social Security, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, other populist middle class and working class tax cuts. You know, we gotta do something. And maybe I know tariff money's coming in and other things coming in, but maybe we don't extend the upper brackets. Tax cuts. And of course, your buddy, your good friend Grover Norquist, he got big mad. Right away. The Jonas, he goes, trump's a liar. This is not what he said. So Grover Norquist got big mad. He big mad. Okay. Big farmers, big mad. Grover Norcross, big mad. I want to go back. What are we going to do? Because you're describing a monetary loose money policy of the Fed coupled with prolific spending, fiscal mismanagement, a physical breach, and they don't want this. What I'm saying, I need. We need Elon Musk and the Doge Guys that come in and say, here's the number, we're not going to get to a trillion, but it's 100 billion or 200 billion, that gap is still the gap. If Elon can't fill it, if he can't fill the order, which I suspect they're not going to be able to do, we need to have an adult conversation right now. In this fiscal year, we were promised impoundments, we were promised rescissions. And we're. And look, we love the guys, we understand the pressure they're under, but the country's in a crisis and if we don't solve this, the deep state legal is going to gang up on us. And you watch, we're going to have 10 times harder fight ahead of us. We don't get ahead of this financial. Dave, Brett, the floor is yours, sir.
Matt Palumbo
Yeah, no, the way you get out of it is Trump's speech tonight at 5pm Denver. Put up that big red chart with all the deficits on it. Have jb, Jamie Dimon or any of these guys, that red chart, those are our total deficits, right? That's the amount we're importing and not exporting. And so the news is going to nickel and dime us on this narrative, right? The basic.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hold on, hang on, hang on. Full stop. I need a. Where's that chart? There we. Is that the chart?
Matt Palumbo
Okay, the red one on the left. On the left, you see over time, those red bars are trade deficit. They're getting bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger always. And that's Lighthizer's point. This is not about some little one off tariff here or there's this whole regime is corrupt to its core. And I got a few other charts that are going to prove this beyond any doubt. If you look at that far right chart, you can see at the far right in that pink area, those black bars are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. That's Trump's trade strategy against China. And our deficits with them were starting to go down under Trump in Trump won. And then we got hit with COVID The Chinese present. The next set of charts, Denver and all this ties together is Jamie Dimon, Morning Joe, Wall Street Journal. Tell me any of this is fair. Right? So that chart on the left there's our deficits with Mexico going up in the middle, that's our deficits with Canada going up. The right chart, if you can zoom in on that, just shows the US Runs trade deficits with most countries. So this is Lighthizer Point number two again. And Trump's basic case here, this isn't a one off with a country or two. It's massive unfairness, massive corruption because whoever owns the manufacturing and the exports also gets all the nice properties to go with exports like innovation, research and development, the entrepreneurial spirit. Just picture all of our inner cities back when we had Ford and Detroit, where I was born, huge energy, positive energy. Now it's gone, it's gutted. Next chart. I'm going to go over this one real quick. The left graph just shows most people may not know trade imports are only 14% of our economy, of our GDP. That little purple triangle. And then when you compare in the middle, the red chart in the middle, our trade openness. And this gets at our leverage position with Canada and Mexico. The US trade as a percentage GDP is small up at the top. Then you see Mexico below it, huge. Then you see the EU in the middle, huge. And then you see Canada down on the bottom. 60% of their economy is traded, right? So that, that's why Canada is not too wise to get into a food fight with President Trump of the United States. We have all the leverage. And on the far right, that just shows the same thing. Canada at the far right is about 19% of their economy is traded with us. And for the US on the bottom, you can hardly see it, that little Blue line, only 2% of our economy is traded with Canada. Now that 2% of a huge number. But the next chart, here's the bomb, here's the fairness bomb that President Trump ought to just use all night tonight. This is the amount of tariffs and non tariff barriers levied against the United States States. This is the war we're in. So what he's saying is we want reciprocal tariffs until we restore order to the deficit problems that we just showed, which are widespread, but also the tariff and non tariff barriers. How do you see this? Very easily. Look at the bottom of that chart. There's the United States, the most fair, the most free trade country. The tariffs are in the dark blue and the non tariffs are the lighter color. Lighter blue where at the bottom. If you look up that chart, you see Mexico, Canada, China at 200 to 300% higher tariffs and non tariff barriers than we have on them. How in the world do you think our manufacturing is going to compete? And then on top of that, the globalists say, hey, it's up, we'll just lose manufacturing, we'll just go to high tech manufacturing, you know, computer chips, etc. Services with oligarch and Services. Right?
Steve Bannon
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Palumbo
Yes. Yeah.
Steve Bannon
No, not going to work.
Matt Palumbo
No way. We get poor on that strategy.
Steve Bannon
That's absolutely breathtaking. I think I want to redo the maybe tonight or Marty, I want to redo the all 20 charts. This is amazing because you're giving a real snapshot of where the American economy is. This is President Trump. 5:30 a day. Maybe I track you down. Dave, if president is on time, we believe he has a EO signing at 1. At 5:30 there is an executive order about reciprocity has not been signed yet. I believe it's going to be today and not tomorrow because I think they have to socialize at least one day into the markets and then it goes into effect on, on, on Wednesday. I think that's a current plan. Hey, you never know. Yep, yep, yep.
Matt Palumbo
One closing point. All the focus in the press is going to be on these high prices and they're going to link it to inflation and that's a fraud. I can explain that later. But what you're missing, economics is always about the sign of what's missing. A price always has two sides to it. A price is good for one party and bad for the other party. Right. If prices go up, that's good for the producer, bad for the consumer. Same as in trade. So all you're going to hear about is these high prices. What you're not going to hear about is how we lost our entire manufacturing and the middle class doesn't have any jobs in the first place to be able to afford the price at all. And that's missing the devastation caused by the massive deficits and the massive trade barriers. These are not small.
Steve Bannon
It also gets back to the phoniness and this is why if you watch the speeches in the crowd, they had these massive crowds. The speeches didn't land because AOC and Bernie are not real populous. It's kind of phony. They're really Wall Street's running dogs. They're a misdirection play to keep the global order the way it is. Brad, where do people go for your charts and everything? Hopefully I'll talk to you after the show. Hopefully get back on the night or when the EOS sign. I want Brad on to break the news about it and break it down. Where do people. Where do people go to get your brother?
Matt Palumbo
Yeah, all 20 charts are up at Brat Economics on Getter and Brat Economics now on X, the young people motivated me to get social media savvy. And so Brat Economics on X, all the charts are there as well. As the 15 minutes on Bannon. Except explaining the charts.
Steve Bannon
Dude, that was my case. 30 minutes. No, no, no, no. Your. Your stuff is amazing. Brett, we, we love you. Glad you're now. Now you're glad. Glad you're up on X and Getter.
Matt Palumbo
Yes.
Steve Bannon
The gap has got to be filled. The gap's got to be filled from somewhere. Taxes. Remember the irs. Although they're going to lose a bunch of agents, they're still. And they're talking about, hey, Maybe it's a $500 billion gap because the agents, who knows? I doubt it. I think it's more of efficiency and effectiveness. But regardless, in your own personal life, you get a letter from the irs, you got to deal with it. One thing you cannot do is just put it in a drawer and hope it goes away. It ain't going away. Particularly now with these deficits and the $2 trillion a year. By the way, the House bill for the debt ceiling increase is $4 trillion. The Senate bill, I think, is $5 trillion. That shows you the direction where this is going. You just have to face reality. At some point in time, we are going to be running some deficits, at least that level of deficits for a long. For a while. That means if tariffs don't kick into the trillions of dollars we're talking about and the cuts from Elon don't come, IRS is going to be more aggressive than they've ever been. That's just a fact of Life. Tax Network tnusa.com Bannon get a free consultation or 1-800-958-1000 talk to them today about your situation on your taxes. They're the best in the country. Short break. Back with Ben Harnwell in a moment. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the April 15. Tax deadline is coming and it's coming fast. Do you have unfiled tax returns? Can't pay the irs. The IRS is more than aggressive and the more aggressive than ever. And the longer you wait, the worse it gets. Wage garnishments, bank levies, even property seizures are all on the table. You need to get ahead of this. You need to get ahead of it today. But going up against the IRS alone is a big time mistake. Take my advice. Call the experts at Tax Network usa. They know the system. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10,000,000 their genius strategies are designed to quickly settle your tax problems in your favor. Tax Network USA's attorneys and negotiators have already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Let me repeat that. They've already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Tax Network USA can help you, too, but you need to move, you need to move fast because April 15th is already here. Remember, if you get that letter, don't put it in the drawer. It just metastasizes. Talk with one of our strategists today. It's totally free. Stop looking over your shoulder. Stop the anxiety, stop the worry. Put it all behind you. Call Tax network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon that's Tax Network USA. Go to tnusa.com Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Ben Harnwell. Ben put up, put a, put a band aid on his knee. Scraped his knee. Listen, we'll talk about the British, we'll talk about the British situation tomorrow. Let's do that. You've got a bunch of great closing thoughts here, and particularly with the Russian rapprochement being worked on by President Trump. President Trump is kind of up in Putin's face a little bit. You got the Ukraine situation. Ukraine just told us, like I said, folks, we could go all day on this news and just love every second of Ukraine. Zelenskyy told us, put your economic deal where the sun doesn't shine. I think Ben Hern called that the Russians are still, you know, thinking of attacking President Trump's up in both grills of both people. Where do we stand with all of it? Ben Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell
Look, for me, the most important thing, the war impossible. Notice your pivot away right when I was winning this argument. And tomorrow I will conclude this, you had to run off and hide behind an advice. Okay, the war impossible. Will notice that my fundamental point here, and this is what's happened today in France is absolutely astonishing. People should not be surprised. They should not be amazed. But what they should do is take a moment to reflect. If you believe as the Americans do, right. And I would accept, I accept the Brits from this, but as because it's not a valid comparison. But if the American system, the European system, you have systems founded on supposedly on constitutional limited government, right. And that constitution is interpreted by judges, this current system is inevitable. So what I would my thought for the day is this. It is time 2025, the year of our Lord, Right? It is time for all the mature democracies to take a moment and choose and decide to abolish their constitutions because they are unnecessary. And simply let Parliament or Congress. Parliament or Congress, whatever you. Whatever term you want to give your legislature right to be sovereign.
Steve Bannon
Oh, my God.
Ben Harnwell
The role of unelected judges overriding the popular will.
Steve Bannon
No, no, no, no. Our founders had it right. You got the balance, so you got the balance. You just need really think through the unitary theory of the executive. Then you have, you have balancing power in the legislative branch and a balancing power. You don't have judicial supremacy. That's what allowed to happen. Good God, man. To think of the problems that we have in Congress. You think we'll let Congress be supreme overall, you're a mad Englishman. You spent too many years in Rome. Okay, hold.
Ben Harnwell
Drives me crazy. Women in robes overruled. The democratically elected system.
Steve Bannon
That drives people crazy. Okay, it's not supposed to be like that. It's not you. This is point. And the engine room is getting right now. They're getting all fired up. This is judicial supremacy. We have been building to this for years. And a lot of people, even on the conservative side, they were just talking about the Supreme Court. And I kept saying, well, hold it. We make the Supreme Court and these decisions like everything, they don't have judicial supremacy. I tell you, somebody who's not going to sit still for that is a guy named Donald Trump. That's what we need. Trump. We need to play the handout on Trump until we squeezed all the juice out of the lemon. That's why I'm a believer in 28 and beyond. A guy like this shows up every hundred years. You see what's happening once in a lifetime of a country, but every hundred years. Looks like in the United States, we had in the 18th century, General Washington in the 19th century, Abraham Lincoln in the 20th, and now 21st century President Trump. Ben, we gotta bounce. Where do people get you for social media? We'll continue this debate later or tomorrow. How's that sound?
Ben Harnwell
Warming posse, 10am tune in and you will see me defeat Steve Bannon in this argument. Until then, on Getter, my surname is my profile. Harnwell. That's my great post there. And Steve, I'll leave you 24 hours to go away and read some notes, do some background reading for this.
Steve Bannon
What it was a Kipling mad. The Englishman mad in the noonday sun. Something Mad dog.
Ben Harnwell
I think it was Noah Cowan.
Steve Bannon
Mad.
Ben Harnwell
Mad dogs and Englishmen.
Steve Bannon
No, mad dogs And Englishmen, midday sun. Ben, wear your straw hat today. Trevor Comstock, you're gonna get us. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. See you tomorrow. Trevor Comstock, you're gonna get us healthy. Make America healthy again. Sacred human health was created just for that reason. What do you got for us today, sir?
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Bannon's War Room: Episode 4377 Summary
Title: The Left's Plan To Steal 2028 And Jail Trump
Release Date: March 31, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
In Episode 4377 of Bannon's War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon sets the tone by addressing the escalating tensions between populist movements and the entrenched establishment. Bannon emphasizes the media's role in perpetuating false narratives against populist figures, particularly focusing on President Trump.
Steve Bannon ([00:02]): "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
Dan Bongino joins the discussion, providing an update on his transition to the FBI as Deputy Director and the continuation of his media ventures. Bongino highlights the creation of Silverlock.com, succeeding BonginoReport.com, ensuring the persistence of his platform despite his new governmental role.
Dan Bongino ([02:41]): "Everything's pretty much the same, actually, with Dan taking this temporary leave to work at the FBI."
Bannon speculates on Bongino's long-term role within the FBI, suggesting a decade-long deputy tenure followed by a director position, aiming to systematically combat deep state influences.
Bannon and Bongino delve into the pervasive influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in global judicial systems. They discuss strategies to counteract CCP initiatives that undermine populist and nationalist movements worldwide.
Steve Bannon ([05:09]): "The black hand of the CCP is all over all this judicial thing with, you know, with bribes and they blackmail people."
Bongino elaborates on the CCP's multifaceted approach, including the use of fake social media accounts and coordinated propaganda campaigns aimed at portraying China as a first-world nation while destabilizing Western judicial integrity.
Dan Bongino ([06:30]): "They have bought armies on Twitter and other social media sites... trying to portray China as a first-world country is one of the big propaganda points."
Ben Harnwell introduces a critical analysis of the judiciary's role in maintaining the deep state's control over populist movements. He argues that unelected judges act as the final barrier against popular will, effectively subverting democratic processes.
Ben Harnwell ([10:30]): "Judges being unelected, are unresponsive to popular will. They are the last front of the system in its fight to maintain control."
A heated exchange follows between Harnwell and Bannon regarding the UK's judicial system, with Bannon asserting that judicial supremacy has been structurally entrenched since Tony Blair's reforms.
Steve Bannon ([13:29]): "Tony Blair introduced... a system that was above Parliament, which is this Supreme Court."
Harnwell counters by emphasizing the historical balance of power in democracies, suggesting that the current judicial overreach is a global phenomenon threatening constitutional governance.
Matt Palumbo presents an in-depth economic analysis, focusing on the detrimental effects of existing trade deficits and the necessity of reciprocal tariffs to restore economic balance. He critiques the current administration's fiscal and monetary policies, highlighting their adverse impact on the middle class and national manufacturing.
Matt Palumbo ([35:10]): "The red ones are getting bigger, bigger, bigger... that's Lighthizer's point. Massive unfairness, massive corruption."
Palumbo underscores President Trump's trade strategy against China, showcasing data that illustrates the widening trade deficits and advocating for strategic tariffs to counteract the unfair trade practices imposed by major trading partners like Mexico, Canada, and China.
Matt Palumbo ([35:33]): "This is the war we're in. Reciprocity in tariffs to restore order to the deficit problems is essential."
The discussion shifts to the looming financial crisis precipitated by unchecked fiscal deficits and lax monetary policies. Palumbo argues that the combination of high deficits and decreasing gold prices signals an impending economic downturn, urging listeners to invest in physical gold as a hedge against currency devaluation.
Matt Palumbo ([23:15]): "We've got a double whammy that is causing a financial crisis, folks. This is why gold's over $3,100 an ounce."
Bannon reinforces this point by promoting Birch Gold as a trusted partner for diversifying investments into physical gold, aligning with the broader narrative of preparing for economic instability.
The conversation returns to defense spending, with Bannon criticizing the trillion-dollar defense budget as a means to support global elites and sustain a sprawling war machine. He advocates for reallocating funds to support domestic manufacturing and economic revitalization instead.
Steve Bannon ([20:17]): "We have a trillion dollar defense budget... it's supporting a whole lot of global elites."
In the episode's closing segments, Bannon and Harnwell engage in a contentious debate over the role of the judiciary in democracies. Bannon remains steadfast in his belief that judicial supremacy undermines legislative authority, asserting the necessity of strong executive leadership to counteract these trends.
Steve Bannon ([47:14]): "We are going to have 10 times harder fight ahead of us. We need Donald Trump."
Harnwell maintains that the overreach of unelected judges necessitates fundamental changes in constitutional governance to restore democratic integrity.
Ben Harnwell ([48:02]): "It's time... to abolish their constitutions because they are unnecessary."
Throughout the episode, interspersed promotional segments for various products and services are briefly mentioned, including health supplements and financial services. These segments, however, are secondary to the primary political and economic discussions.
Bannon concludes the episode by emphasizing the critical need for financial and fiscal reforms to combat the deep state's influence. He urges listeners to take proactive measures, such as investing in gold and supporting populist economic policies, to safeguard the nation's sovereignty and economic future.
Steve Bannon ([54:52]): "Wage garnishments, bank levies, even property seizures are all on the table. You need to get ahead of this."
Key Takeaways:
Media and Establishment Resistance: The episode highlights the ongoing battle between populist movements and established media narratives aimed at discrediting leaders like President Trump.
CCP Influence: A significant focus is placed on combating the CCP's infiltration into Western judicial systems and its broader strategy to destabilize nationalist movements.
Economic Reforms: Emphasis is placed on implementing reciprocal tariffs and addressing trade deficits to revitalize domestic manufacturing and protect the middle class.
Fiscal Responsibility: The discussion warns of impending financial crises due to fiscal mismanagement and advocates for strategic investment in gold as a protective measure.
Judicial Supremacy Debate: A heated debate underscores the tension between legislative authority and judicial overreach, calling for constitutional reforms to restore democratic balance.
This episode of Bannon's War Room serves as a comprehensive analysis of the multifaceted challenges facing populist movements, emphasizing strategic economic and political reforms necessary to counteract deep state influences and restore national sovereignty.