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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Raheem Kassam
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
Raheem Kassam
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
It's Monday the 7th of April, the year of our Lord 2025. No Jim Cramer, at least so far it is not Black Monday. And President Trump has dug in and over the White House it is fixed bayonets, they're not backing off one inch. Nasdaq's up 250, 100. Pretty shocking. Gold's at 3,010 year, treasuries at about round at four. Commodity prices are dropping. President Trump's dug in the Asian markets overnight got absolutely crushed. The Hang Seng, which is one of the premier equity markets in all of Asia out of Hong Kong, down 13%. The Chinese Communist Party are taking it right on the chops. They will not survive at 54% tariffs, full stop. The Tech Bros too, getting absolutely crushed as Donald Trump just wields a hammer, a hammer blow to the exact people that shipped all the jobs from the United States of America to China. To be brutally blunt about this. And Richard Haas said earlier, the economic warfare, you're absolutely correct. And in the fog of war, you got to come to the war room because it will help guide you through here. Raheem Tom Finn is about to join me. Kris Kobach after that, and maybe even Brian Glenn is at the White House. The Los Angeles Dodgers are there today with the President. I'm sure the president's going to have something to say. We're trying to cover it all. Raheem Gassam, you're about to head to Andrews Air Force Base. Geostrategically, the vice president of the United States last week went to Greenland. Pete Hegseth went on the three island chain tour over the vast Pacific, the new heartland of defense of the United States of America. He went to Hawaii, the then to Guam, then to the Philippines and Japan. And today he goes down to Panama what do you hope comes out of this, sir?
Tom Fitton
Well, what I hope it's funny. What I hope comes out of this is what I hope comes out of the argument that is going on on market floors over the course of the day. Although I don't put much faith in those people who seem, I think President Trump called them panicans this morning. The idea that the so called wealthiest, strongest militarily nation in the world cannot endure something like this, where we actually have, oh, I don't know, maybe a little redistribution towards the ordinary American and the idea that America cannot go overseas like Pete Hegseth is doing today and actually say, hey, we built this damn thing literally, and we have, you know, given our blood and our treasure for this and you want to hand it over to the Chinese Communist Party. The same thing with the Chagos Islands. I actually just published up on the nationalpulse.com Steve, an explainer over the Chagos Islands, Diego Garcia, why it matters because this is going to become a thing again in the next couple of weeks as the administration gets worse and as the British government tries to give this away effectively again to the Chinese Communist Party. But hey, look, if you have the strength, if you have the temerity, if you have the audacity, if you reach just a little bit higher, look what happens. The European Union turns around today, goes, actually, we kind of do want to negotiate with you. We will come to that table. Hey, my message to the markets and to the Republicans, especially on Capitol Hill, is get your heads in the game and stop being those weaklings that you've built that you've been for so very long. That era of America is over.
Steve Bannon
I want to transition to Fenton because Tom Fenton is here to talk about personnel. There's not a bigger defender of President Trump or bigger defender of this administration than Tom Fitton. Tom Fitton, I've known this Guy now for 15 years, one of the great patriots in our country. He's got some issues about personnel. You've got some issues about personnel. Laura Loomer goes in last week and you know, six guys on the National Security Council get blown out. There's some issues. Not just getting your sea legs, but who did the filtering process and really what's going on here? One more time, Rahim, on the national security side, you said, hey, they're just starting to learn how to work together as a team. What is your recommendation to President Trump about personnel on the national security side as far as you see it? Because you're right, we haven't taken a big role in the Diego Garcia thing. And we have to. There's been kind of crickets about Brazil. Really not that aggressive so far until Pete goes down about what's happened in the Caribbean. A CCP takeover. President Trump came out the first time. President Trump came out and had Le Pen's back. But you've seen no comment at all on Korea. The coup d'etat by the Chinese Communist Party. Take the conservative out. What is your recommendation on the national security side, Rahim for President Trump on personnel?
Tom Fitton
I got two. Number one directly President Trump, the people who have your back on domestic policy, on tariff policy, they are also the people who have your back on foreign policy. You do not need to go to the AEIS of the world. You do not need, need to go to the neocon institutions of the world. You do not need to listen to the Lindsey Graham's of the world to get you over the line on foreign policy. We have it within the hardcore OG MAGA populist nationalist wheelhouse that that can work too. And if you need recommendations of people themselves, I got a list as long as my arm. The second one is listen, this is what happens when you try and look, I know it's gonna make me extremely unpopular on Capitol Hill, so good thing I'm getting out of town today. This is what happens when you throw away Project 2025. You know, that was, that was a database and a list and a document that actually had the best interest of MAGA at its core. You didn't have to agree with everything. But at the end of the day, what was Project 2025? It wasn't the things that the media told you it was. It was a database of personnel who had been vetted, who we knew were MAGA to their core, who actually could get in there day one, hit the ground running and put together the policies of the Trump 2 administration. So I would, I would dig up the old Project 2025 database stands, get him back in there frankly, and get rolling.
Steve Bannon
Get the vetted people. Raheem, we're gonna let you go to Andrews. We'll be covering you nonstop while you're with Pete Hexit, the great Secretary of Defense. Social media, National Pulse. Where do folks go?
Tom Fitton
Yeah, look, you can join up@thenationalpulse.com Warren but if people don't actually want to join, we also have a big donate button at the top of the site now as well. Thenationalpulse.com Everything we do is 100% reader funded. And you can follow Henat Pulse on all social media, and I am Raheemkassam. Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Good trip and we'll stay in touch closely. Tom Fitton is on now. I will tell you, my dad that passed away over 100 years old, we revered him in the family. A great guy, just the common man. He would tell me every time I went back to Richmond, and I tried to go back every week or every couple of weeks. The thing he loved giving money to most was Tom Fenton. He would hit Tom Fenton with the 50s or every now and again, a 25. And he'd say he'd get that monthly magazine. He goes. He'd watch Tom on tv. He goes, this guy does exactly what he says he's gonna do. This guy's a fighter. Tom Fenton, you have been the biggest supporter of President Trump. You've been a huge supporter of Cash Patel. You're a close friend and a huge supporter of Dan Bongino. Pam Bondi, everybody. So when people see you up on Twitter and you're questioning some of the personnel decisions here, I tell people people got to listen because Fenton doesn't chase rabbits. When Tom Fenton's saying something, it's important and it has meaning, and something's going to happen about it over the weekend. There's another personnel issue like we've had at the National Security Council and other places on the national security side with President Trump. What is going on? What are your tweets about? And quite frankly, what your beef, sir.
Cash Patel
What struck me, Steve, is how mild my issue was. I read this New York Times piece, and I know why Cash and Dan didn't like it. Because it suggested that they were being swampy with the FBI. And there was a detail in there which was surprising to me, was that they had elevated to a significant position the head of the Washington field office of the FBI, Steve Jensen, who many believe to be one of the worst in terms of pursuing the January Sixers, being involved in the targeting of parents, over daring to try to figure out what their kids are being taught, and turns out he gets elevated. The New York Times gleefully noted this. And I said, what? And then we start getting the pushback. It's fake news. It's fake news. What wasn't fake news, which was the implication, was that the hire had taken place. That was true. And I guess the concern is from the FBI folks, is that he's really a good guy, not to worry about it. And it's frustrating because I don't know about you, but I'm still waiting for Prosecutions. Now, I know there's not going to be an immediate prosecution, but I want evidence that there's a serious criminal investigation going on into these very people. And I guess my big point would be it's not so much the personnel, it's the personnel makes policy. But I don't understand why Marco Rubio has been more aggressive with USAID than Cash and Pam have been with the FBI. I think they should be treated similarly whether or not the, you know, it's not a question of who runs the Washington field office, it's a question of whether we have a Washington field office.
Steve Bannon
Let's go back to Jensen just for a moment. I just want to make, because this thing caused controversy and I think, Tom, that you understood you're too self effacing. And I would tell you folks, Tom Fenton does not promote himself. He's not a self promoter. He's a man of few words. But he gets stuff done. And that's why he's been considered a basic linchpin of this movement for a couple of decades. What is it about Jensen? Cuz a lot of the audience may not know this. What is it about Jensen that you specifically have a concern about of him even being in the orbit of getting a job? Particularly as big people should understand, the Washington field office of the FBI is I think, even more powerful than the New York FBI. And those are the two, the two major field offices. What is it about Jensen that concerns you that he's even on the list of possibilities of having this immensely powerful role?
Cash Patel
He was a key figure in this domestic terror push against January 6ers. According to testimony before the House, he treated them all as terrorists and was one of the key instigators in pushing the narrative within the bureaucracy that these folks needed to be jailed and ferreted out. And he also was instrumental in implementing, to the degree it was implemented, the targeting of parents for going to their school boards. And remember, Attorney General Garland suggested they should be treated as terrorists and domestic threats as well. And so it's this approach that presumably was rejected last year. And yet he gets elevated to this key position and again, you know, for all I know, maybe he's a good guy and we're all misinterpreting it. But what I am not seeing out of the FBI yet and what I'm not seeing in the Justice Department yet is a radical remaking or even talking about it that we've seen with usaid, that we've seen with the Department of Education. And there's nothing the FBI is doing that another federal agency or local or state of law enforcement can't do. There's really nothing. And these folks were behind an effort to destroy our constitutional system the last four to ten years. And the idea that we're just moving seats around and moving people in and out and that will solve it to me is naive. And I just want more done in a more timely way. I mean, for instance, foia. There's been no change of FOIA from any federal agency. Justice Department is still stonewalling us on information. A court asked, hey, what's your position on releasing this tape of Joe Biden being interviewed by her? And the Justice Department said, give us three months, we'll figure it out. Not acceptable. This isn't what we paid for.
Steve Bannon
Do you think? Because these folks are. I'll tell you what, can you hang on and we'll hold you through break because you're both. We couldn't have picked a better dream team than Pam Cash Patel, Dan Bongino. These are all people that are friends of yours, colleagues of yours. You've known him for years. You work with them for years. And the question is, do we need a massive restructuring of what's happening over there or just trying to work on the margins and what's the direction of this? We know what President Trump wants. That's quite evident. Okay, we take a short break. We got Tom Fenton is joining us. Birch Gold now more than ever. Did I tell you there's going to be some turbulence? Think I mentioned that. In times of turbulence, your best weapon against that is knowledge. To understand this is what we provide. First off, go to take your phone out Bannon B A N N O N text 989-898 and get the ultimate guide to investing in gold and precious metals in the era of Trump from Birch Gold. You also get a relationship with Philip Patrick and his team. You can also go to birchgold birchgold.com Bannon and get the end of the dollar empire. We're going to be announcing a new way. We're going to format this to make it even easier to access it. Get the six free installment. All of these are free, absolutely free. Modern monetary theory, the idea that broke the world. Talk about a margin call. Standby, baby. Make sure you get this short break fitting on the other side. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is already sinking. And you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit an all time high. The first part of 2025 multiple times. It's not too late for you. The company I trust to help you diversify into physical gold is Birch Gold, the company I buy my gold from. Birch Gold specializes in helping you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold for no money out of pocket. Just listen to this five star review, quote knowledgeable, helpful, non pressure, end quote. That's what you get with Burch Gold and that's why I've endorsed them for so long. Get your free info kit on gold by texting the word Bannon B a N N O N to 989-898. There's no obligation, just useful information with an A rating from the Better Business Bureau and countless five star reviews. Text Bannon B A N N o n to 989-898 and let the experts at Birchgold help you secure your financial future today with gold.
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Cash Patel
Well, the President's gotta be the President. And I would, if I were President Trump, I'd be reminding everyone around him that hey, I'm the President. That's what bugged me about that signal chat escapade. It wasn't so much that it took place, it was what the substance was, which was they were second guess the decision. Second guessing a decision the President already made. And Pam Bondi isn't going to do it. Cash Patel isn't going to remake the Justice Department or the FBI. They're going to be running it and it's not a criticism of them. This is where the President should step in and say, this is what the FBI needs to look like or needs. This is how it needs to be changed. It can't be around anymore to do to others what they did to me. And I tell you, if after four years nothing's been done other than they've reoriented the FBI or DOJ to focus on arresting Ms. 13, then whoever comes in next time, Republican or Democrat, Trump's gonna be investigated again. People around Trump are gonna be subject to criminal investigation again. And so what President Trump needs to do is to hire a special counsel, run it out of the White House. Cash, the FBI, they can't investigate themselves. DOJ can't investigate themselves. Let's stop pretending that these agencies are going to investigate their friends and colleagues. It's not going to happen. And it's really not fair even to expect the leadership to spend all their time investigating their own people. It's not going to happen organizationally. That's why you need outsiders. And Cash Patel should be told, you know, to follow Marco Rubio's lead on usaid. Shut it down.
Steve Bannon
The reason I love this, and as you know, I'm close. I love Cash, love Dan, love Pan, but the reason I love this structurally is that we talk about them. It's the unit happening as a government, the structure. This is a, gets back to the unit unitary executive theory. I love the fact you're saying announce a special counsel, that special counsel reports directly to the President of the United States and is run out of the West Wing. Okay, this puts to rest the third part as he, you know, he's chief executive officer. We're in court fighting. Can he cut personnel, can he cut budgets, can he impound money? The commander in chief, they're in court right now with Boasberg trying to interfere with him being commander in chief. This is the third leg of the stool, which is being chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. You take care of all that by setting up a special counsel, having directly report to the Office of the President and set it up in the West Wing. And what would be the mandate for that? Special counsel Tom Fenton start running a.
Cash Patel
Grand jury in Fort Pierce investigating the deprivation, the deprivation of his civil rights, the civil rights of other Americans under color of law. The seeming conspiracy with the Justice Department and the state actors in Fulton County, New York, et cetera, to target Trump not because they violated law, to target party leaders in Republican Party activists, not because they violated the law, but in retaliation for their First Amendment protected rights. That's a crime, potentially. And people need to be at least asked questions about what went on. I'm not even, you know, this is not a question of a prosecution yesterday. This is a question. Are they even asking anyone questions? President Trump's a crime victim. Are they investigating the crimes against him? I'm not seeing any indication that there is. And, you know, Dan's been putting out some tweets, talking about how there are things that are happening behind the scenes he can't talk about. Just because it's not readily apparent doesn't mean it's not happening. Well, that may be true on certain law enforcement areas, certainly on national security, but it's not true on these types of crimes. You know, if there was a serious criminal investigation into what happened against Trump, we'd know all about it. And the fact that we're not hearing anything about it is as good an indication as DC Gets. Nothing's happening.
Steve Bannon
Tom Fenton, where do people go to follow this? Because I anticipate this is going to get a little momentum after this morning's chat with you. Where do people go to follow up?
Cash Patel
They can go to judicial watch.org and of course, we're all over rumble, YouTube, Twitter, you know, all I'm doing as I see it, you know, go ahead, Dan and Cash and Pam, they know me well enough to know. It's like, don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining. You know, and I've seen this party before. I've been doing this work for 27 years. Don't tell me to wait.
Steve Bannon
Tom Fenton. Tom Fenton is the people's during the nuclear winter of the Holder years, we referred to Tom Fenton as the people's Justice Department. If we didn't have Judicial Watch and Tom Fenton, we wouldn't even have been around how you held the line during those dark years.
Cash Patel
People know this during 45 if we weren't out there yelling about what they were doing, I have no doubt Trump would have been removed from office in 45 and I think he would have.
Steve Bannon
Put a little flesh on the bones.
Cash Patel
I love it. Last four years if we weren't out there pushing back.
Steve Bannon
Give me that again. Give me that. That's very important. I agree with you 100%.
Cash Patel
I think Trump would have been impeached in his first term. He would have been impeached and removed and prosecuted but for Judicial Watch blowing the whistle from the get go. Similarly, during the last four years, if we didn't start pushing back immediately on the Justice Department's lawfare because remember, everyone was in a panic about January 6th and we saw it for what it was, I'm convinced Trump would have been in jail and worse but for the work of Judicial Watch in large measure.
Steve Bannon
Tom, one more time, give me your, your where do people go to get you?
Cash Patel
Go to judicial watch.org go to twitter @ Tom Fitton, of course at Judicial Watch. We're all over. You can't, you can't avoid us if you're online.
Steve Bannon
Tom. Fantastic. I'll be in touch after the show. Love you, brother.
Cash Patel
Thanks, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Tom Finn, an absolute hammer right now. There's a President Trump. He's President Trump's got a true social can we get we're also going to cut directly to the White House and we will blow the brake as soon as the President comes out. Our own Brian Glenn is there but as soon as the President comes out, we will jump there. I want to read. Let's put up yesterday China issued retaliatory tariffs of 34% on top of their already record setting tariffs, non monetary tariffs, illegal subsidation of companies and massive long term currency manipulation. Despite my warning that any country that retaliates against the US by issuing additional tariffs above and beyond their already existing long term tariff abuse of our nation will be immediately met with new and substantially higher tariffs over and above these initially said. Therefore, if China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8, 2025, the United States will impose additional tariffs on China of 50% effective April 9. Additionally, all talks with China concerning the requested meetings with us will be terminated negotiations with other countries, which so requested meetings will begin taking place immediately. Thank you for your attention in this matter, folks. That's called economic warfare. President Trump just took a massive punch of Xi right in the chops. They tried to get cute last night and put up some additional tariffs. And President Trump said, hey, you've abused us long enough. You've abused us for currency manipulation, non tariff barriers, all of it in stealing our intellectual property, I might add $600 billion a year. I think it's we talk about a trade deficit of 25 trillion. I think our deficit on stolen intellectual property that came out of universities that you paid for, that came out of companies that you helped finance, that came out of the government that you pay taxes for is at least $25 or $30 trillion. That deficit on top of the trade deficit shows you how much the Chinese Communist Party with their partners here in the United States of America, the lords of easy money, the sociopathic overlords that run Wall street, of course, the globalist corporatists and the apartheid state of Silicon Valley, all of them combined are the partners of the Chinese Communist Party. And if there was ever a question of what President Trump was going to do, well, I think we've seen in the last four or five days what he's going to do. This is outright economic warfare. He's told him flat out, you don't you put tariffs on here, tough guy. If you don't take them off by tomorrow, I'm going to add a 50%. Xi's country economically cannot exist like that. That means essentially there'll be nothing shipped into the United States of America. So the stakes couldn't be higher. I think the markets are going to kind of react to that. Short commercial break we got the White House. We're ready to go to see the president talk momentarily. I think it's going to be in the East Room. We also have Kris Kobach from Kansas on deck. So much going on in that great state. Kris Kobach is going to get us up to speed on a I think something that'll actually shock you. Short commercial break birchgold.com Bannon End of the Dollar Empire the six free installment, but read them all. You're going to need to it's totally accessible. This is why we wrote it. Also get to know Philip Patrick team Now more than ever, you need a hedge for times of financial turmoil. Told you that was coming, didn't I? Short break Back in a moment. I've been telling you about a very serious threat to your home Equity home title fraud. 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Raheem Kassam
No, they're not. Since 1958 they have been selected using the so called Missouri model. When the Kansas legislature proposed an amendment, that should have been our first clue, by the way, it was a bad idea. It was called the Missouri model. But anyway, the Missouri model is where you have a commission, you have a commission of people select the choices and then the governor has to pick from one of three choices the special commission creates. But we back in 1958 took the Missouri model and made it even worse and we gave lawyers the control of the commission. The majority of the commissioners have to be lawyers picked by other lawyers. So it's a system of the lawyers, by the lawyers and for the lawyers. And as a result, Kansas, a red state, has one of the most liberal, left leaning activist supreme courts in the country. I've argued in front of multiple state supreme courts. I'd say the only one that's worse than ours is California. And so we have a constitutional amendment. The legislature just passed in Kansas, 2/3 vote. It goes now to the people for ratification to go to electing judges, which is what Kansas did from statehood until 1958. And that is, that's a political earthquake in our state. If this is adopted by the people, it will be such a positive transformation. And it goes to the whole problem we see in the federal judiciary as well is judges who are not accountable to anyone.
Steve Bannon
What our audience have to do, is this something for the legislature? Are they trying to, is this something that needs to go to a vote? The war in posse wants to be all over this because we understand the judges are everything. What are folks supposed to do?
Raheem Kassam
So it's already passed the legislature by the required 2/3 majority for a constitutional amendment. And now it goes to the people where it needs 50% plus one. It'll be on the August 2026 ballot, you know, definitely next summer. War Room could definitely help by getting people informed about the need to vote yes on electing judges. Steve, let me put it this way, just a frame this issue in a bigger picture. And that is, you know, in a constitutional republic we rely on judges to protect our constitution and protect the rule of law. But there's always the possibility that the judges may not be doing so well. And as the famous Robert Bork, the late Great judge put it in 1990, he said, well, who will guard the guardians? Who will guard the judges when they go off the rails? And his answer back then was, well, we need to have judges. We need to appoint judges who are originalists and who stick to the text of the law. Well, well, that has sometimes worked. But sometimes judges say they're originalists and say in front of Congress they are one thing, but they are actually something else. In Kansas, we have had judges legislating from the bench. And so there's an even. The best way to make judges accountable is to make them face elections, make them face. Another would be judge every six years who can point out the flaws in their decision making. And so when you have judges who are not accountable, and this is true to a certain extent in the federal judiciary, just like it is in Kansas, you can see judges start legislating from the bench, becoming activists, rewriting the law by reinterpreting it. And one of the solutions, I believe the best solution, and one that's achievable here in Kansas, is electing judges. And by the way, 22 states already elect judges. But it's a very interesting insight into the problem of a judiciary that is not following the text of the Constitution.
Steve Bannon
Chris, you're one of the smartest guys legally in the entire Trump MAGA movement. Just real quickly, because they're saying today that they're going to go into court, conservatives are going to go into court and challenge President Trump on his tariffs. What's your whole take on the use of the federal judiciary here to try to block President Trump's efforts to effectuate the unitary executive theory, sir?
Raheem Kassam
Well, I mean, obviously, we have the courts. They are there for, you know, when there's a gray area, when there's an unclear area of the law. Absolutely. That's what courts should do. They should say, well, the law is written this way. The words must be interpreted the way they were understood by the drafters of the Constitution, if you're a Constitution that you're interpreting, interpreting, or a statute. So going to the courts in and of itself is not necessarily wrong if they have a legitimate argument. But going to the courts with a bogus argument or with an obviously weak argument solely with the intention of getting a preliminary injunction to gum up the works and put a hold on things until the higher courts can overturn that preliminary injunction, that is an abuse of the system.
Steve Bannon
Real quickly, Chris, you're the number one guy publicly intellectual about our borders, Trump's, President Trump's report card so far. How do you grad him?
Raheem Kassam
Oh, I absolutely give him an A. I mean, this has been amazing. Using all of these resources, everything from the US military to state National Guards to giving ice, taking the handcuffs off ice, letting them do their job in border patrol. Morale is at an all time high, at least in the careers of people there today. No, he's doing an amazing job.
Steve Bannon
Kobach, we gotta go to the East Room. What's your social media? People want to follow you. Where'd they go?
Raheem Kassam
They can go to kriskobach.com. that's K R I S K-O B A C H.com or kriskobach 1787 on X.
Steve Bannon
Love you, brother. Let's go to the East Room. President of the United States people actually very talented people.
Stephen K. Bannon
The 2024 World Series champion, the Los Angeles Dodger. And I want to congratulate you on a legendary season. And I watched it very closely. Some of those teams were home teams and you did a big number. You're really amazing how it all came out and how it all ended. With us today is Dodger's owner and chairman, Mark Walter. Thank you very much, Mark. Congratulations. President Stan Castino, one of the greatest managers of the really ever to wear the Dodger blue. Dave Roberts. What a time he's had. That's great. What a job. I think he would have lasted even with George Steinbrenner. Right. I love joystery. He was very quick. He would. You lose two games and you were fired. Right? Great job, Dave. Also want to recognize Secretary of Agriculture. We have some great people, Brooke Rollins, who. You know, when I came to office, they said the eggs are very gone through the roof. Eggs. He said, what the hell are they talking about? I was there for four days and they were blaming me for eggs. And they had. They've gone up like six times or something. Some record number. You couldn't get them. And I gave it to Brooke and I just saw the other day they're down 73%. Right. That's pretty good. And the press doesn't mention that. Nobody talks about it, so. But I know Secretary of Labor Lori Chavez. Durimer. Thank you. Congratulations. The chief of staff, Susie Wiles is. Is a big Dodger fan, by the way. Susie. Thank you. And we have also Representatives Kevin Kiley, Congressman Kevin Kiely, Young. Kim. Thank you. Congratulations. Great job. Jay Olbernolte. Jay. Thanks, Jay. Nanette Barrigan. Nanette Wisdom. Ty Nanette. Oh, look at that, huh? What Nice outfit. One of my favorite people, Gus Billarakis. Congressman I, Addison McDowell, new to the Congress, but doing a great job. Thank you, Addison. A real good baseball player. And a friend of mine, Roger Williams. Great job. And another new Congressman. But he's been there a long time in a mental sense, because he has really done a job and he knows Congress very well. He was with me for seven years. Brian. Jack. Brian. Congratulations, Brian. And others. We have a couple of Senators here. I just don't particularly like them. So I won't introduce. Over the course of this amazing season, the members of this team. I didn't think it was that big a deal. Actually, Washington. Over the course of this amazing season, the members of this team gave us some of the most incredible performances ever seen in the baseball diamond. In all of baseball history, only six players have ever hit 40 home runs and stolen 40 bases and a single season. And an elite group known as the 4040 Club. It's a 4040 Club and very few people make it. But unanimous. National League MVP Shohei Ohtani looks like a movie star. He's got a good future. I'm telling you. He shattered all of those records last year. Think of it. All of them. And he did something even more because he became the first ever member of the 5050 club. So 4040 is tough. Hitting 54 home runs and 59 steals and accomplished an accomplishment unparalleled in 149 years of major League Baseball. Think of that. That's just incredible. Even more incredibly, Shohei clinched that achievement in what some have called the greatest game ever. Was it that good of a game? That was pretty good. Is he good?
Steve Bannon
Only getting better.
Stephen K. Bannon
And he's getting better and better. That's scary for a lot of people, huh? Even more incredibly, Shohei clinch the achievement. I mean, it really was. And in a time that at an age that nobody ever thought was possible, on September 19, 2024, he did the unthinkable by going 6 for 6. This is a pretty amazing. I didn't realize it was that good. I saw that game 6 for 6 against the Marlins with three homers, 10 RBIs and a pair of stolen bases. Other than that, it was not a great game. How many people have gone six for six? Just period, Right? Not very much.
Steve Bannon
Maybe a dozen.
Stephen K. Bannon
Maybe a dozen. Amazing. As you know, the Dodgers were down a lot of talent on the mound last season due to injury. The resilient group used 40 different pitchers, the most ever by an eventual World Series championship team. They had to go and get them. I don't know how they got them and where they got them, but they got them because they won. I know you especially missed the heart and soul of the pitching staff. Clayton. Clayton Kershaw, who is really fantastic. These are the best looking people I've ever seen. Incredible. But Clayton has been unbelievable. And if you look, you look at his records and you look at the stamina, the endurance that he's had and, and we're really happy to have him. I'm glad to meet him. I've watched him for a long time. He's a young guy yet, but I've watched. You are a young guy, but I've watched you for a long time. So congratulations. Amazing. All year, the Dodgers faced down adversity. You entered the playoffs battered and bruised, but not broken. When you ran out the healthy arms, you ran out of really healthy. They had great arms, but they ran out. It's called sports. It's called baseball in particular. And pitchers, I guess you could say, in really particular. But the starting rotation. During the National League Division Series, this scrappy Dodgers bullpen shut out the Padres, saved the season and forced game five. Then key players battle back from mid season injuries to help deliver the National League pennant, including superstars Mookie Betzer. Oh, is he good? Good looking. Mookie. That guy can play, can he? I mean, unbelievable. You really. Mookie is. I've been watching it. I don't want to say I watched him when he was on Boston, but I did. I didn't think. I didn't think that was a particularly good trade when they made it. And I happen to be right. And Max Muncie, I want to congratulate Max. Max, come here, Max. His arms are very strong when I touch them. I'm used to shaking politicians and hitting their armrest like jello. And now it's like, like now it's like steel, all these guys, but Max, that's great. And also Yoshi Yamamoto. Yoshi. Yoshi. Wow, what great athletes. And of course Series MVP Tommy Edmond. That was an MP vp. Seriously good feeling, right? With all these guys. You're the guys, right? That's pretty good. That's a lot of talent. You had to beat out there for the MVP, but they all had an incredible. Tommy was 407 with 11 RBIs in six games. That's not bad, right? That's not bad. Great job. When. When it counted too. Next came the blockbuster World Series against another iconic team. Team known as the New York Yankees. I love the Yankees. I. George was a great friend of mine. He had very few friends, but he was. And if you Want to spend work, sit for nine innings with a game watching the Yankees play with George, you were exhausted by the end of the game. It was very, it was actually hard work. But we love George and they're doing a good job and they're doing well this season and you're already 9 and 2 and so you're doing a good job. Maybe you see the same thing over again. In game one of the World Series, Freddie Freeman on a sprained ankle. He's a great player with a broken finger and a broken rib. Channeled Kirk Gibson's legendary walk off home run in Game 1 of the 1988 World Series. That was a very, that was a game that pretty much everybody remembers. He could hardly swing the bat, but he did. He swung it one time and it was a, it was a shot. On the first pitch Freddie saw in the bottom of the 10th, he hit an unforgettable walk off grand slam home run to first in World Series history. It's amazing. The Dodgers rode the momentum to win two of their next three games, placing them on the verge of baseball immortality in a dramatic game. Five down, five runs on the top of the fifth. That was a strange for those Yankee fans, but I'm not saying I was a Yankee fan because I, I love these people behind me, but. Down five runs in the top of the fifth with two outs and the bases loaded, the Dodgers gave us one of the grittiest half inning World Series events showings that anybody's ever seen. Mookie started the rally by beating out a routine ground ball to first, which he's fast as hell. I don't know how the hell you having that speed. Isn't that a great thing? I played baseball, but I was sort of slow. I wasn't fast driving in the phenomenal kike Hernandez. Where's Kiki? It's a hell of a group. Then Freddie drove in two more runs and TE Oscar Hernandez drove in another couple of runs. That's a group. TE Oscar. So you're doing well this season too. Yes, that's what I heard. That's what I heard. After a few dominant innings from Blake training. Where's Blake? I heard dominant, right? Great job, Blake. And the team was crowned the World Series champion against a great team. The Yankees are a great team and always a great franchise. And I guess, I don't know, like 28 or something. They've won a lot, probably maybe more than any team in history overall. And you might be catching them pretty soon if you keep going. You've got little Ways to go, I guess. The scouting report at the start of the series said that the Dodgers could win by focusing on the fundamentals, and that's exactly what they did. You showed America that it's not about individual glory. It's about the team digging deep and sprinting right through first base. And you did that all the time. I watch. I watch some games. I love baseball. I don't get to watch as much as I'd like. But you always see a spirit on this team. I think a lot of that has to do with the ownership and the management, frankly. But you. You see a spirit on the Dodgers that you don't see with a lot of teams. A lot of teams I turn on. I say, oh, forget it. When I turn on the Dodgers, I like to watch the team. And now that I've gotten to meet these guys personally, I like it even more. I'm going to like it even more. And you're off to a great start. After seeing how successful you've begun the season, I can tell you that you can plan on being back here. I hope you're going to be back here next year. I don't want to give you too. I don't want to give you too much because we want to have a little suspense for next year. But I will tell you, we're going to go down. We're going to do something we don't do generally. We're going to run them down really fast. They have a game today? Do you have a game today or tonight? We're going to run them down to the Oval Office, and we're going to show them the fabled Oval Office, and there's nothing like it. And this wonderful owner, one of the greatest owners in sports, by the way, from everything I've heard, one of the greatest owners in sports, along with your other compatriots. Right, fellas? It's a great team of owners, and that's very important. But we're going to. He said they'd love it, and I think he'd like to do it himself. So we're going to. We'll get out of here and we will run. We'll sprint down and we'll see the Oval Office, which is really something to see. You know, it's funny. People come from all over. The biggest people, the richest people, the most powerful people. And they come and they go into the Oval Office and they just stare. Oh, wow, that's something. They all have beautiful offices. They have offices that are the best in the world in many cases. But they love the Oval Office. So with all of that, I'd like to now introduce you to the Dodgers chairman, Mark Walter to say a few words and then we're going to follow that up with Clayton is going to say a couple of things and that's a great representative of a great team. Thank you very much, Mark. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. We're very pleased to participate in the tradition of bringing champions to the White House. Last season was an incredible season. We won the World Series second time in 2020 and since 2020 and only eight times in our seasons or our history. We played in front of almost 4 million fans and we had many millions more on television. Our global following has soared and not only from Shohei Ohtani, but also from Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Clayton Kershaw and many, many more. Alongside this on field success, we have been deeply immersed in our community. Our players and managers have supported our, have each had foundations and support for communities. Our trust last year has committed $100 million to help Chicago or Louisiana. Fire. And so on behalf of the organization, I want to thank you. Thank you very much.
Clayton Kershaw
Okay. Wow. This is an incredible honor for me and to be to stand here today representing the Los Angeles Dodger and this group of staff and players behind me today. The 2024 Los Angeles Dodgers season is one that will go down the history books, always holding a special place in the hearts of myself and those there with me, as well as millions of Dodger fans around the world. This organization exemplifies what it means to come together as one for a greater purpose and represent something so much bigger than themselves. The selflessness and humility that each one of these players and staff have shown over the last year is truly an inspiration. They have constantly played hurt, switched positions and taken the ball to put the team first as a spectator for our championship run. Last year, I was in awe of this group. Their unwavering confidence coupled with a selfless pursuit for team excellence was an inspiration. That is why I'm so grateful to get to speak today on their behalf as I know none of them would say this about themselves. Moving forward. I hope the 2024 Dodgers can serve as an inspiration to many like they were to me. Not just in sports, but in life. Remembering to put others before ourselves, it moves, moves a team and a society forward. So thank you for allowing me to speak today because the story of the 2024 World Series champion Los Angeles Dodgers is a true joy to get to tell. And it's because of the Extraordinary people that are behind me and their incredible pursuit of excellence. Thank you. And Mr. President, we have a gift for you as well.
Stephen K. Bannon
Come on, Mark.
Raheem Kassam
Oh, they're gonna.
Steve Bannon
The President, their team jersey, the world champion Los Angeles Dodgers. Let's go back and play the music, guys. Let's go ahead and play it. Don't cut the audio. The President's going to lead them to the Oval Office right now. I think the Dodgers are going to go on a very special trip to the Oval Office. What we're going to do is toss to, we're going to carry this through, I think all the way through to Charlie Kirk. To Charlie Kirk. Now President's promised the Dodgers a special trip down to the, over to the Oval Office. He said that's not, it's very rarely done. The Dodgers are in town to play Washington tonight. So today that's why I started. 11 o'clock. There they go right there. Very special occasion for the President of the United States. As you know, President Trump is a longtime Yankees fan. He just had some great comments about his experiences in baseball. President Trump played baseball at the New York Military Academy when he was in prep school. President Trump also was a good friend of George Steinbrenner. And when Steinbrenner brought the club and started turning around the Yankees after CBS had owned it, the big rivalry was obviously between the Dodgers and the Yankees there in the, in the 70s and the 80s when the Dodgers had those great teams and Steinbrenner was rebuilding it. We're going to go to. There we go, right there. We're going to turn. We're going to toss to Charlie Kirk. Once again, want to thank Brian Glenn and the real America's Voice team for being live there. There goes the Dodgers right there. As they funnel off the stage, the entire world championship team showed up. They gave President Trump a jersey. President Trump was reminiscing about George Steinbrenner. 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Bannon's War Room – Episode 4394 Summary
Title: Economic War With China; Courts Block Fair Election Of Judges In Kansas
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Release Date: April 7, 2025
Stephen K. Bannon opens the episode with a fervent critique of mainstream media, expressing frustration over perceived misinformation and the impending downfall of certain regimes. He emphasizes the necessity for patriotic individuals to remain steadfast in their mission to "save [their] country."
“All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it... you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.”
— Steve Bannon [00:01]
The primary focus of the episode revolves around the escalating economic tensions between the United States and China. Bannon delves into the strategic use of tariffs and the broader implications for global markets.
Tariff Escalation: President Trump has intensified the economic pressure on China by increasing tariffs, which Bannon describes as "economic warfare." This move aims to retaliate against China's long-standing trade practices, including intellectual property theft and unfair subsidies.
“This is outright economic warfare. He's told him flat out, you don't you put tariffs on here, tough guy.”
— Steve Bannon [24:22]
China's Retaliation: In response, China imposed an additional 34% tariff on top of existing tariffs, prompting Bannon to warn of further escalation.
“If China does not withdraw its 34% increase... the United States will impose additional tariffs on China of 50% effective April 9.”
— Steve Bannon [30:00]
Market Reactions: The markets have shown volatility in response to these tensions. While the Nasdaq has seen a substantial rise, Asian markets, particularly Hong Kong's Hang Seng, have suffered significant losses.
“Nasdaq's up 250, 100. Pretty shocking... Hang Seng... down 13%.”
— Steve Bannon [00:50]
Long-Term Implications: Bannon underscores the unsustainable nature of China's trade practices, suggesting that continued aggression will lead to the eventual collapse of the Chinese Communist Party's economic strategies.
Tom Fitton, representing Judicial Watch, discusses critical concerns regarding personnel within the National Security Council and the broader implications for U.S. national security.
Personnel Vetting: Fitton criticizes the current filtering process for national security appointments, advocating for the reinstatement of "Project 2025," a vetted list of MAGA-aligned personnel ready to implement Trump's agenda.
“If you reach just a little bit higher, look what happens... The European Union... Hey, my message to the markets and to the Republicans, especially on Capitol Hill, is get your heads in the game.”
— Raheem Kassam [02:36]
Special Counsel Recommendation: Fitton urges President Trump to appoint a special counsel led by an outsider to ensure unbiased investigations, particularly concerning Trump-related investigations that current FBI and DOJ structures may not adequately address.
“The President needs to hire a special counsel, run it out of the White House... Cash Patel should be told, you know, to follow Marco Rubio's lead on USAID. Shut it down.”
— Stephen K. Bannon [20:40]
Judicial Watch's Role: Emphasizing Judicial Watch's contributions, Fitton highlights their efforts in combating what they perceive as lawfare against Trump, asserting that without their intervention, Trump could have faced severe legal repercussions.
“If we weren't out there yelling about what they were doing, I have no doubt Trump would have been removed from office in 45.”
— Cash Patel [23:05]
A significant portion of the discussion centers on judicial reforms in Kansas, spearheaded by Raheem Kassam. The state is undergoing a constitutional amendment to transition from appointed to elected judges, aiming to enhance accountability and curb judicial activism.
Missouri Model Critique: Kassam critiques the Missouri model, where judges are appointed by commissions dominated by lawyers, leading to a judiciary perceived as liberal and activist.
“Kansas, a red state, has one of the most liberal, left-leaning activist supreme courts in the country... it's a system of the lawyers, by the lawyers and for the lawyers.”
— Raheem Kassam [31:27]
Constitutional Amendment: The Kansas legislature passed a constitutional amendment requiring judges to be elected by the public, reverting to the system used until 1958. This amendment now awaits ratification by voters in August 2026.
“It's already passed the legislature by the required 2/3 majority for a constitutional amendment. And now it goes to the people where it needs 50% plus one.”
— Raheem Kassam [32:47]
Federal Implications: Kassam draws parallels to the federal judiciary, suggesting that elected judges would be more accountable and less prone to activism, reinforcing the rule of law and constitutional adherence.
“One of the solutions... is electing judges... 22 states already elect judges.”
— Raheem Kassam [32:59]
In a celebratory segment, Bannon covers the Los Angeles Dodgers' visit to the White House following their World Series victory. This segment highlights the intersection of sports and politics, showcasing the team's achievements and their relationship with President Trump.
World Series Highlights: The Dodgers' remarkable season, characterized by resilience and outstanding performances from players like Shohei Ohtani and Tommy Edmond, is lauded by Bannon.
“Shohei clinch the achievement... it was pretty much the first ever member of the 50-50 club… 54 home runs and 59 steals.”
— Stephen K. Bannon [41:34]
Community Engagement: Mark Walter, Dodgers' owner, speaks about the team's commitment to community support, including significant donations to disaster-stricken areas.
“Alongside on-field success, we have been deeply immersed in our community... committed $100 million to help Chicago or Louisiana Fire.”
— Mark Walter [53:09]
Presidential Remarks: Bannon and President Trump engage in discussions reminiscing about baseball's significance, reflecting on the Dodgers' triumphs and endorsing patriotic values through sports.
“It's not about individual glory. It's about the team digging deep and sprinting right through first base.”
— Stephen K. Bannon [36:46]
As the episode concludes, Bannon teases upcoming discussions on geopolitics, capital markets, and artificial intelligence, encouraging listeners to stay informed and engaged with the latest strategic insights.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Steve Bannon [00:01]: “All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it... you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.”
Steve Bannon [24:22]: “If China does not withdraw its 34% increase... the United States will impose additional tariffs on China of 50% effective April 9.”
Tom Fitton [05:25]: “I would dig up the old Project 2025 database stands, get him back in there frankly, and get rolling.”
Raheem Kassam [32:47]: “One of the solutions... is electing judges... 22 states already elect judges.”
Cash Patel [23:05]: “If we weren't out there yelling about what they were doing, I have no doubt Trump would have been removed from office in 45.”
Raheem Kassam [35:10]: “Going to the courts with a bogus argument... that is an abuse of the system.”
Conclusion
Episode 4394 of Bannon's War Room navigates through critical issues impacting both the economic landscape and the judicial system in the United States. From the aggressive economic stance against China to the transformative changes proposed for the judiciary in Kansas, the episode underscores a strong push for accountability and national sovereignty. Additionally, the celebration of the Dodgers' World Series victory serves as a testament to resilience and teamwork, mirroring the broader themes of the episode.