
Episode 4414: Trade War With China; Preventing The Boxing Out Of American Excellence ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media I wish in my soul.
Jeff Davis
I wish that any of these had a conscience.
Stephen K. Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Cameron Kinsey
War room.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's the ides of April, the 15th of April, year of our Lord 2025. It's your favorite day of the year, is it not? Maybe not. We're going to get into that in, in one moment. If I have my clock, I would appreciate that. Thank you, sir. Jeff Davis Last night, the convention, which was extraordinary. What gets me, the local media. The folks have got one job to do. They're like, they got the biggest one, the biggest political stories in the country right there. And they not just miss it, they miss it on purpose. But that's fine. That's what the media is supposed to do. That's what President Trump lights him up in the, in the Oval every day when he does these press avails. That's one of the reasons he does a press avail. It's called disintermediation. He's disintermediating the mainstream media from standing between him and the people. And it's incredibly powerful, incredibly powerful. In fact, they just put up a, a chart on, I think it was on Fox Business about the Trump effect, about the crossings of the border. The border has essentially been secured. He's building the wall, he's doing all the other security. But this was supposed to take us decades. Remember that? Remember Lankford? Everybody in Oklahoma, if you go to a town hall, you meet Lankford, walk up to him and say, hey, about that bill that you told us was so urgent we had to do it and made MAGA look bad because MAGA opposed it because it was phony. Tell me about that. Tell me about the border. You sat up there in the Senate and said over and over again you needed your bill, you need this compromise bill. We need to give amnesty, we need to do all this, secure the border. And President Trump did it under 60 days. Talk to me about that give me some feedback because sir, you're a liar. This is what you got up there. Got a bunch of people that work for the Democrats. It's called controlled opposition. That bill is the perfect example of controlled opposition. They're going to have all the, oh my God, there's so many security measures and this is so amazing. And then in the campaign when it was rejected by this audience and candidate Trump as not even worthy of discussion, remember that we lit these people up. It's not even worthy of discussion. Unworthy of intelligent people who are busy to spend any time on it. Because this is how this nation got in the jam of having 10 million illegal alien invaders cross border just under Biden's watch and many more here over the decades. Because what the business interests wanted them here, the business interests wanted bigger consumer markets and they want to drive down the price and cost of low skilled labor. That's why it's here. That's where the whole visa program on the high skilled labor, the H1B visas, folks, they don't have a skill set better than yours. They don't have educational training better than yours. It's not, that's a lie. It's a bald faced lie. What they do is they work for 50% less as indentured servants, which is unacceptable in America in the 21st century. But it happens. Why does it happen? Because the vested interests want to happen. Jeff Davis, tell me about why is South Carolina have so many liberal policies when it's such a MAGA state? It's such a conservative state, sir. And what are you guys in the Greenville GOP now? The delegates are chosen to go to your state convention. What are you going to do about it?
Jeff Davis
Well Steve, what we're doing is we're doubling down. We always double down. We do never surrender. That's the, that's your motto and the president's motto. And what, what we're doing right now is we're trying to educate as many people about the precinct process. We came within 16 votes two years ago taking out Drew McKissick. Drew McKissick is, was the co, was the vice chair with Roan McDaniel. So that kind of explains to you a little bit about the predicament we're here in the state of South Carolina. But really what, what we're trying to educate people on influence of the political consultants. The political consultants and the amount of money that flows in the state of South Carolina is tremendous. And it's so much money based on the fact that we are first in the south of picking, you know, Republican president presidential candidates. So we were the ones that, that selected or helped help President Trump get over the, over the, over The Hump in 2016 and also in 2024, defeating Nikki Haley here as her kind of last stand. But what we're trying to do is we're organizing. I will tell you, we came so close two years ago that the state party and actually the political consultants and the in the. And the legislators are has spent a ton of money actually trying to come in and infiltrate and really fight back on the precinct reorg strategy against us. And that's quite interesting to see them do it. But they've done it in a sense of recruiting people in under the guise of representing maga. So a lot of. You'll find a lot of rhino establishment tending to be MAGA even though they were supporters of Ron DeSantis or even, even as far as Nikki Haley. And what they have done is really fooled a lot of the electorate out there. So what we try to teach people about is the political and mental manipulation that goes on out there every day. We see it in the fake news media. You deal with it, you know, on that national level, but we're also dealing with it substantially on the local level. And why it's harder here on the local level is because what happens is, you know, it's one thing to hate Nanc Pelosi and those folks up in D.C. and yell and scream at the TV, but when it's your local politician, you know, I got friends that I went to high school with, college with that are elected officials or went to law school with that are elected officials. Actually speaker of the House was a classmate of mine or one year ahead of me in USC law. But they do not. We used to think they were all okay that our friends are sitting there managing and taking care of what's going on down at the state House, but really all they're representing are the money. Special interest. There was a report that came out today, I mean we literally in the state of South Carolina allow state agencies to lobby the legislature. Can you imagine a state agency getting funding to actually go down there to the state House and lobby, you know, for more money to promote out more woke agenda type things. So I love what Russ Vogt was talking about with the impoundments and the rescissions of taking that funding away from NPR and those types of folks. That's the same battle we are fighting here at the local level and we are going to win it. It will take time because I will tell you, as you mentioned last night at our county convention, the other side has money. They have almost unlimited money. But it's encouraging for us to see what's happening on the national level that that funding is stopping. And we're trying to stop that type of funding right down here at the state level as well. So we don't need as much funding as the left needs or the rhino establishment to manipulate the citizenry out there. But we need a little bit. We need for every dollar they spend or every thousand dollars they spend, we need a dollar or two dollars. But that's what we're trying to do. We're really, we do not want to become what we're purging. So we don't want to go after the money in a big way in that sense. But we do want to educate people, get more people involved. And I will tell you here in the state of South Carolina, we got 2,307 precincts and our goal is to activate each one of those 2,307 precincts with 3, 4, 5 MAGA America first people that will get out there and door knock and help bring the data together and really spread the message. Nothing can defeat an active, small, active group of people in each one of those precincts. And we're accomplishing it and we're going to keep fighting. And we've got our state convention on May 3rd. I think we may be few votes shy on doing that, but you but taking out Drew McKissick in the leadership. But we made some improvements this year on the state executive committee, getting some more people elected to be able to manage that process. And we'll keep fighting. We never surrender. So we can't thank you enough for coming down and we can't thank you enough for what you're doing on the national level and educating us. And I would tell everybody, if you really want to learn about the process and what's really going on, watch Steve Bannon in war room and get involved. We got, we got to make this posse war room posse in every state. And we got to make it, you know, 10 times the size it is now because that is what manipulates and moves the needle. So thank you Steve, for all you do.
Stephen K. Bannon
It moves the needle. Political power is local. You saw that convention last night. It was amazing. 1300 people on a Monday in April in a non election year. Jeff, where do people go to find out more information about all this?
Jeff Davis
Sir, they can obviously go to us@greenvillegop.com but our nonprofit and our 501C4, you can go to myscgop news. We took, you know, obviously the state party is scg, is the scgop. We just put a little my in front of it. And that kind of drove them nuts. You know, you got my coke and my SC votes and all that stuff. So we put my sc, GOP and News and then we put out a lot of information out there. So that's what we're doing and that's how we're educating people and we're working with people like Dan Schultz and Steve Stern with the shirt company. So we're trying to spread that nationally as well.
Stephen K. Bannon
Two of the best, Dan Schultz's theory and Steve Stern the hammer. Jeff, thank you so much. Can't wait till I get back down there, hang out with you folks. Tremendous.
Jeff Davis
Anytime. Thanks, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's what's changing the country right there. Tarrant County, Denton County, Greenville. It's at the local level. And you can see from the Politico, excuse me, the Hill newspaper this morning, 70% of Republicans now identify as MAGA. Let me get Cameron Kinsey from Trump's first term. Cameron, this is the day. This is your big day. This is everybody's favorite day. It's tax day. What do you got for us, ma'am? Tax Network usa. Talk to me.
Cameron Kinsey
Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me on. It's really great to see you. Steve. It's tax day. You know, we have our tax filing deadline today. Millions of Americans are kind of facing stress at this time. We've gotten an influx of calls at Tax Network usa. People don't really know where to start. They're getting these letters in the mail. They're worrying about an audit looming. They don't even know where to start with filing taxes. And that's kind of where we step in, Steve, and we act as a liaison between you and the IRS so you don't have to deal with them yourself. You can stay with your family, with your friends, with your loved ones without having to bear the burden of the irs. So we've seen the IRS overreach and the Biden Harris administration and a lot of small businesses, a lot of W2 employees, 1099s are really worried about that. So just to ensure that our clients are getting the tax relief they deserve, we just record all the necessary paperwork, documentation that's needed to build your case. We have licensed professionals. We have CPAs, we have tax attorneys. We even have former IRS agents who've really successfully resolved over a billion Dollars in back taxes. We've significantly reduced penalties, interest, even principal amounts owed. So we're in your corner every single step of the way during this process. And today is the final day. You can file for an extension, but if you really need help, it's very, very easy to get started with us. You can call us for a free consultation. We'll help you the best way we possibly can. But you can call us at 1-800-958-1000. Again, it's 1-800-958-10000. Or you can contact us at tnusa.com bannon and we'll try to help you the best way that we possibly can.
Stephen K. Bannon
Give me that Real quickly. We got about 90 seconds. Hit. Hit again. Just hit rewind of everything you guys can actually do for folks. As I know people are very anxious about this. Should I follow? Am I going to miss it? What can you guys actually do for them?
Cameron Kinsey
Yeah, absolutely. So we have a comprehensive audit representation. We handle all transaction or interactions with the IRS on behalf of our clients. So our experts meticulously review your tax filings. We challenge unjust assessments. We negotiate favorable outcomes through appeals when necessary, just to ensure procedural fairness. Holding the IRS accountable. So we are protecting taxpayers from unjust penalties. There's a lot more that we can do. We've represented people, like I said, W2s, 1099s. And once we get your documentation, that's really crucial for our team to build a strong case against the irs. Like I say to you, Bannon, all the time, we're all on the same side here. We're fighting against government overreach, and we're standing with the American worker. So as soon as we. Yeah, as soon as we review your case, then we're able to get a proper assessment in order to fight back.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, hang on for one second. I'm just holding you through the break. Grant Newsham's going to also join me. The this conflict we're joined in on, the Chinese Communist Party, this audience understands, is because we've taught you over the last four or five years, the Chinese Communist Party. This is a systems war. The two conflicting systems is not just simply about tariffs. And in the commercial organization of the world, what President Trump has done. We'll go back through the history is offered the Chinese a way out in 2019 after two years of hard work, and they smile, spit in his face and spit in the American people's face. Short break back.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock. Cameron Real quickly when people contact because today's tax day and understand what we're trying to do here, whether it's for debt or taxes is trying to take the anxiety away. We need you as an hoplite. We need you in the front lines. You've changed so much just here in the last couple of days. The whole focus on the judges, your work meta trial starting Zuckerberg on trial civil not criminal yet your work. We need you up on the ramparts. So I don't need you worried about somebody taking your your title to your loan taking money out don't need you can't sleep at night because of credit card bills and particularly on taxes because remember the IRS is not playing games when they get your letter or they get there's certain rules and regulations. So Cameron, when people because what we're trying to do is take the anxiety away the way you take the anxiety away, you reach out to somebody for help that knows what they're doing. This is a very complicated area. Maybe it shouldn't be that complicated. Hopefully President Trump and the head of the IRS and all that over time takes care of this. But it ain't happening immediately, just not particularly because these guys also report to Capitol Hill, although in the executive branch they're overseen by Capitol Hill. And did I mention did I happen to mention our go on the show that the deficit so far in cash money is $1.3 trillion. Take your number two pencil out and write that down with us in charge, not for the whole time and kind of on their budget, but it's $1.3 trillion. That's a fact. That's not open for interpretation. That's a fact. And that has got to go onto our debt and that's got to be financed and Scott Besson's got to sell more government securities to finance that. And that interest pays up and up and up. So they're going to be looking for every penny they can get. President Trump's just on tv. He's got a magnificent thing about tariffs and the External Revenue Service, which the great John Gardner, the, the small manufacturing guru who created that, not Howard Lutnick, who as the typical liar claimed credit for, was John Gardner, a genius when it comes to a renaissance in American manufacturing, talked about it in tariffs. President Trump says, hey, maybe one day if we do this right and if we don't bring the jobs back right, the tariffs alone. But if you look at the jobs coming back in the tax taxes that could generate from citizens having better well paid jobs and corporations making more money here, yes, they pay more taxes. Then you take the tariffs, the other part of the equation for people who don't and paying the 20, I don't know if it's 2030, whatever it is, and stop the non trade barriers, more cash until that time arrives because that time is not going to be today at midnight. You're playing by an existing set of rules and that's what Tax Network USA are the experts in, helping you get over the anxiety and get on with it. Don't have your life hung up either on debt and don't have it hung up on taxes. And particularly when they send you a letter or get in contact with you. Remember, it doesn't go away, the penalties, the fees and the interest, it just keeps building. So you have to address it. Cameron, one more time. How do people, particularly now this is the high anxiety period is the first call and contact that's totally free. You can actually get a consultation or get a quick and dirty assessment from people and not actually fully engage.
Cameron Kinsey
Yes, you do receive a free consultation with one of our experts at Tax Network USA when you call or you fill out an online form. Like I said, we had an influx of calls yesterday. We understand it's very last minute. So we've had all of these calls. Do not worry. We've been getting things done at rapid speed. But yes, it's entirely free to talk to one of our Team members and.
Stephen K. Bannon
What the 800 numbers. 800 what? 958 1000. Call or go to TaxNetwork USA. Make sure you put in promo code, Ben, and let them know you came through us. And the first consultation is free. Kinsey, last question. You've done an amazing job for Tax Network and helping the Born Posse. When are we getting you back in the administration? We need you at the front lines over in the White House or one of the agencies. I mean, you're a player. You did an amazing job the first term. When are we going to get you back over? What do we got to do to talk you into going back and taking a big job in the White House?
Cameron Kinsey
I really appreciate that, Steve. Yeah, I was called to serve in 2020, towards the very end of the administration. And then I went on. I came to Florida with a free state of Florida to get out of the swamp. But if I'm called back there, then, then I'll do it for President Trump. I probably wouldn't do it for anybody else, though.
Stephen K. Bannon
Kinsey, you went in during. It was Den. Ben Fu. You were there during the siege. Those were the. That was some of the toughest times any White House has ever had. And you guys were amazing backing up the President. It's one of the reasons he was able to go to Mar a Lago and then come back in the second. I guess this was the greatest political comeback because they were waiting for him. So great job. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for doing this for Tax Network. It's great.
Cameron Kinsey
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Stephen K. Bannon
Taj Gill, from warrior to entrepreneur, one of the bravest guys I know. Taj, thank you so much, brother.
Taj Gill
Thank you, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you for those, thank you for those multiple deployments over and over with over there, taking care of bad guys. Yeah, we spent 20, 30 years doing that. Right. Unbelievable. Unrestricted warfare. The Chinese Communist Party in the, the People's Liberation army are quite smart. Don't think we're dealing with an enemy. And remember that Lao Beijing are our allies. They're the ones that bled out for us during the Second World War. And if you thought Tarawa and Peleliu and Guadalcanal and New Guinea, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, we're in the 80th anniversary of all this, right? If you thought that was bad, thought the bloodshed was horrific. Young American, principally Marines in New guinea had the army, but the army did a great role. But those Marines doing amphibious landings, each one almost as bloody as Normandy and D Day. What would they have been if the Imperial Japanese army hadn't been tied down in mainland China and bled out there by the Chinese people whose own leaders were as bad as they get? They were fighting each other more than they were. They were fighting the enemy because the enemy was the Communists or the Nationalists or whatever side you were on. They kept shifting nonstop. This war, this is a war we're in. President Trump, when we first got there, we let the Cohens of the world and those guys, after the first thing, you know, after the first meeting, she came over and Navarro and I and others had a plan. Stephen Miller, what they call the super hawks or the Nationalists that don't believe the Chinese Communist Party is the legitimate ruler of the Chinese people, because the Chinese people tell us that every day. Of course, Wall street and the corporatists and Silicon Valley have partnered. It is absolutely like partnering with Hitler in the 1930s or Stalin in the 1930s. When you know what's going on in the Ukraine or you know what's going on in the beginning of the camps, you see the suppression, right, of the priests and the Jewish community and the gypsies and others, which many people in the United States knew. It's like your business partners with them. That's what's happened here. When they talked about the Thucydides trap, I asked Graham Allison, I said, hey, yo, dude, give me an example of the declining power, where the elites of the declining power made more money on the way down with the enemy, with the rising power. Ever made more money on the way down? No answer. That's a situation that's unique in human history. This country, its middle class, its working class, were sold out, sold out by the elites in this country. You were sold out. Full stop. Short commercial break Colonel Grant Newsham on the other side.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Your host, Stephen K. Band.com Into the Dollar Empire. Six installments, all free. Last one's Modern Monetary Theory. Theory, the idea that broke the world. Because we're huge believers here and ideas have consequences. We saw that last night in Greenville, South Carolina. What was the idea? It was Dan Schultz's precinct strategy. Here's an idea. Here's a concept. Do human agency. That was enacted in Greenville, South Carolina. That's they're one of the most powerful political groups in this country along with Tarrant County. Same thing. Ideas manifesting. Idea bang. Do human agency. Your agency. Nobody else's. Yours. You. And I think the results are pretty damn good. Because guess what? You've carried Trump to three victories. Yes, three victories. But divine providence deemed, and it was providential that we didn't serve the second term consecutive. He needed four years to think this thing through. Having seen it up close and personal with people like Cameron Kinsey and others and that heroic, heroic, heroic. White House of 2020. Heroic. Those people were heroes. Heroes that dug in there under that onslaught of the summer of love. We're in a war. I've said this from World War Three. If you go from September of 1939 to June of 1941, when the Wehrmacht and the Nazis turned on their allies, the Russians and started Operation Barbarossa, the massive sweep east to go to Moscow and to defeat the Russians and the Bolsheviks, you take all the casualties there. From the fall of France to the situation of the war in Poland to the blitz to the bombing, the battle of Britain. I'll take some North Africa. I'll throw in Finland. Right. At least that part of it. I don't know, a couple hundred thousand people. Bad, terrible. Europe, Western Europe kind of fell. That's nothing compared the last three years in the kinetic. The kinetic part of the Third World War, where we have over a million dead and wounded in Ukraine alone. And look at the slaughter that's taking place in Gaza. We've got two carrier battle groups right now at the mouth of the Red Sea with, I don't know, 20, 24,000 young sailors keeping the Suez Canal open for God knows what reason. Oh, that's right. For our NATO allies who are too big of deadbeats to actually build navies that could keep their own Suez Canal open for their own trade. Oh, it stuck on you with your sons and daughter. Grant Newsham's with us. The Chinese Communist Party has been at war. This was a group that was saved by the Bush regime, the Bush junta. The first one, Old Man Bush at Tiananmen Square when he sent Scowcroft over 30 days later and said, you got to clean up your act. But we got big plans for you guys, big plans. The Chinese Communist Party that we had given the Nation to the CCP back in 1949 with Marshall and that corrupt State Department that were now cutting 50% of its budget, thank God that we gave to the Chinese Communist Party. The nation of China that have been our allies and, I don't know, lost 35 million people. 35 million Lao Beijing dead in the experimentation up in Manchuria. Can't even talk about. You talk about the Holocaust. Look at what the Chinese. Look at what the Japanese did in Manchuria. Sorry to bring that up, but we got to bring it up. Grant Newsham, the colonel, wrote a book that if you read it, it's a horror story. And you know why it's a horror story? Because it is overwhelming in the fear that it will instill in you. And it's all 100% factual. It ain't a novel when China attacks. Newsham, the great tragedy here, and where history will mock us, is that it's the American we say China attacks. It's our money, our capital, and our technology that help build a war machine, a kinetic war machine that could take out Taiwan and take our economy, all sorts of things. Walk us through it. Is this not the elites of the United States that have sold out their nation to the Chinese Communist Party for money, sir?
Grant Newsham
Well, yes, Steve. There's no other way to put it. The elites wall street, the business class, they have funded the build up of the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese military, the entire Chinese economy. The Chinese economy is basically a Ponzi scheme. If you took out the convertible currency, the US Dollars, the technology, the whole thing would collapse. It would have collapsed 30 years ago. In fact, it would never be about the equivalent maybe of Uruguay today. And all because of Wall street and the business class. And you cited the Bush administration that after the Tiananmen Square massacre sent a fawning note to Deng Xiaoping. It's on the Internet. One should read it. And it's basically saying, oh, please, we want to be friends. You shouldn't do these sorts of things. It gives brown nosing a bad name. And we have actually funded the whole thing. And I can't think of another historic example of this. And I don't know how we're going to get out of it. We do have a chance. But as long as Wall street and the business class and their people on Capitol Hill, as long as they are backing up funding the PRC, we've reduced our prospects by 90%. And that money they're sending is our money. So you're funding the people that say they're going to kill us.
Stephen K. Bannon
They said they're not sending rare earths. Remember, the rare earths are just dirt. It's all over the world. But they had the processing because nations like the states and the green parties don't want to. Don't want to. The green groups don't want to process it. They have. They have cut us off from rare earths, they've cut us off from magnets, they've cut us off from ball bearings. Does ball bearings strike a bell? Remember, 12 o'clock high. What are those young men giving their lives for in 1942? What is that generation of young, all American boys giving their lives to? You know what they're giving their lives to in daylight? Precision bombing over ball bearing plants in the Ruhr Valley. Ball bearings. That's what they gave their lives for. Ball bearings. What are the Chinese just cutting this off with ball bearings and magnets? And now they're not going to order any more planes and people are running around. Look, I'm the biggest believer in these deals with Japan and South Korea and Taiwan and Vietnam and India. The Big Five in East Asia. Let's get them. Get them wrapped up. I'm glad. Scott Bessness down in Argentina. But honestly, I don't care about Argentina. I care about the Big Five. You got to lock those up, however. And Grant Newsham I'm a toss it to you. If we, those big five, is she going to all of a sudden be a supplicant to President Trump and say that we need a meeting, that we need to have a meeting because you've signed up these amazing trade deals with Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam and India. Is he going to come as a supplicant, sir?
Grant Newsham
I don't think so. He's spent a number of years sanctions proofing his country. And we had a chance maybe five, 10 years ago when we could have really got them to grovel, but they've reached a point where they don't think they have to. And it's going to require us to really go all out for a while and as you said, line up the big five and others and basically decide that we are going to have a sort of a bloc of the free nations. We're going to trade with each other, deal with each other, and we're not going to deal with the prc. If you think you can split the difference, we're going to find we're mistaken. But Xi Jinping will only respect strength and a nation that's got its act together, both militarily, financially and economically, and there is no deal to be cut. I think viewing the PRC is okay.
Stephen K. Bannon
I agree with you 100%, except for he's playing smash mouth. He's playing as close to smash mouth he's got. He's cutting us off of magnets and ball bearings. The machine doesn't run unless you have magnets and barbarians and also rare earths. He understands. He's playing mini smash mouth. Not total smash mouth, but mini smash mouth. And they're saying they're going to cut off pharmaceuticals. Remember, we've been putting the people up here at Jace Medical for four or five fricking years. Why was I doing that? Not for my health, to give you a heads up that this day was coming. And now they're talking about cutting off active pharmaceutical ingredients in generic medicines. Hello. Wow, Steve, we're glad you're ahead of that one. Like you're ahead of all of it. Newsroom. We are still financing the Chinese Communist Party and still giving them technology. Today, on the 15th of April, in the year of our Lord 2025, when they're playing smash mouth with us, are we not financing these people and are we not still giving them technology, sir?
Grant Newsham
Well, we still are. President Trump's American first investment policy, if you read it, is excellent, but you've got to put it into, into action. And notice that this is 2025. This should have been done in 25. So this is very late in the day. And as you said, Xi Jinping is not going to back down and he is going to play rough. And I wouldn't be entirely surprised if going kinetic, if actually shooting is somewhere on his menu of options.
Stephen K. Bannon
Now, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Let's walk up the escalatory, as we refer to it here in the war room, the escalatory ladder. Let's pull back for a second. Because you wrote the book the People. If you want to see what's going to when it feels like when it starts, read Newsham's book and you'll be reaching for a couple of three cups of Warpath coffee. Okay? It's in your face, Colonel. Before we get to the kinetic part, maybe we'll do that another day. But I want to talk about the escalatory part, because this is not just about terrorism and is not about trade. These are two incompatible systems. The question is, can the world continue on with two totally incompatible systems? And President Trump in 2019 for two years. Two years. And he was on Lighthizer and Navarro every week with details. Keep me up to speed. In two years, from the time she came to Mar? A Lago in I think February or March, to the time of May of 2019, when the deal was basically done in draft form, and Li, he had the final sign off from Wan Shishan and from, from Xi, when they had the first belt and road, they looked at it and went through it and they said, we, this, we've come to a decision point. We are going to either integrate into the Western system and we will always be servient to the foreign devils, or we can tell him, we got Putin, he's hanging around. We got one belt, we're on road. You know, I just talked at the World Economic Forum on the same two days separated from Trump's inaugural address. We're feeling pretty good about ourselves. How about this? We spit in their face and say no, and then we go to Wuhan and light off a weapon is what they did at the military games in August and September of that year. That is the critical path of how we got here today. And the elites in this nation don't want to talk about it. They lied about Wuhan, they lied about the lab, they've lied about everything dealing how they. They have made China a world power. The Chinese people have wanted this. They made the Chinese Communist Party a threat to the United States of America. Her citizens in the entire world. And they did it for money. Colonel Newsham, we got a minute? We're going to hold you through the break. Am I wrong in any of that, sir?
Grant Newsham
No. In fact, you're probably understating it, I think, a little bit. You can go back, I think, decades, and you can see how this has all come to pass, how it's played out. But it has all been the result of, really, cravenness on the part of America's ruling class, America's elite. And I don't think they have the slightest bit of remorse for what they've done. You think they believe in leprechauns, who they blame for what's happened? But if you want to see what the outcome of all that has been, go live in a cheap motel in Baltimore for a week and see what it looks like. That is the outcome of what our best and brightest, what the Ivy Leagues have given us. And it is about that bad. But you've laid it out pretty well. And there's been chances where we could have stopped the prc, stopped the Chinese Communist Party, and we squandered every one of them.
Stephen K. Bannon
Colonel, can you hang on for a second? I'll go to a. I'm gonna go to a commercial break. Brian Kennedy is also going to join us here. He's got an amazing new Claremont, a Claremont event I want to tell you about. There's a lot going on. This is why the committee in President Danger. We're doing webinars every couple of days. If you go back and look at the material we've put up, this great group, which Colonel Newsham is one of the founders, you see that, you look at it now and go, wow. These guys were ahead of the curve, of course, because they understand what the threat is. Home title lock. Get the million dollar. Triple lock protection. Keep yourself on the rampart. 24 hour coverage, middle of the night alerts. If anybody's messing with your title and one million dollar restoration of all else fails, talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team go to hometitle lock.com promo code Steve back short. You wish you could have invested in the stock market last year when investors scored the highest profits in decades. But between that mountain of bills and credit card debt, you had nothing, and I mean nothing, left over. It's time to stop letting debt hold you back. Let me tell you how done with debt can help. They have a brilliant new strategy designed to tackle your debt and put cash back into your hands so you can save and invest and build the life you've been wanting. Done With Debt goes head to head with credit card and loan companies. Their team of negotiators and legal experts work to significantly reduce your bills, eliminate interest and erase penalties. This frees up cash to invest while the stock market is still hot. The bottom line is this Done with Debt helps turn crushing debt into financial freedom. That's crushing debt into financial freedom. But some of their strategies are time sensitive, so don't wait. Start building the life you deserve. Visit donewithdebt.com and talk with one of their strategists. It's free. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com here's your host, Stephen K. Ban Grace. We get to the producer, Cameron and I'd like to get it up to Denver and put up the great Johnny Maga. If you're ever over Twitter, the great Johnny Maga is only he can do. He's got it up. Newsweek magazine came out a few minutes ago and Johnny Maga's got It's happening. Donald Trump eligible to run for third term. Half of MAGA Republicans say so. If you take the Hill article I started off with, it says 70% of Republicans are MAGA. And you take half of that, which I think I can do better calculations. But half of that we're at 35%. We're 35% of total Republicans over one third. That's just a start, folks. Stay tuned. Watch this space. It's happening as Johnny Maga says. Brian Kennedy, the hemispheric defense which somebody in the somebody's got to tell. Hey Pete Hegseth, we got to understand the hemispheric defense. I don't know how we get a trillion dollar budget on that. I'm not sure. We need a trillion dollars all the way from Panama Canal to Greenland to the Arctic out to the the vast Pacific as a natural barrier to the three island chains. But maybe we get there because of what you're talking about. You have a special day on the Iron Dome for the United States. Is this an anti ballistic missile system that you guys are talking about? And where do we go to get more information and actually watch this? Sir?
Jeff Davis
Yes, Steve.
Brian Kennedy
Well, it's a golden dome, as President Trump said. And President Trump had an executive order directing the DoD to come up with a way of building a 21st century missile defense that would actually work. My colleagues at the Claremont Institute and I put together a webinar for this evening. It'll be on at 5:30 Pacific Time, 8:30 Eastern Time. It's going to discuss the whole golden dome concept that President Trump has advocated today. The United States cannot stop a single nuclear ballistic missile coming from China or Russia or from one from Iran if it's from a ship off of our coast. How? I thought your discussion with Grant was excellent. And Grant's a brilliant guy. Underscore what you're saying. How serious can the Chinese or the Russians take us when we're going to leave the American population vulnerable to ballistic missile attack?
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay.
Brian Kennedy
President Trump understands that this is one of the things.
Stephen K. Bannon
Where do people go tonight? Because this is quite controversial. Don't we have. Aren't we still party to an anti ballistic missile treaty or is that expired? Are we.
Brian Kennedy
We withdrew from it. We withdrew from it. We have a rudimentary system in California and Alaska.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes.
Brian Kennedy
But today we cannot stop a single Chinese ballistic missile launched at the United States. How will the Chinese take us seriously under this circumstance?
Stephen K. Bannon
What time is the seminar going to be?
Brian Kennedy
8:30 Eastern Time. We're going to stream it on the war room channel here I believe. And it'll be a great discussion about what it takes to defend the United States. And President Trump has been on top of it the whole time.
Stephen K. Bannon
Okay. We're looking forward to it. Maybe we'll get you back on tomorrow to do Q and A. Thank you so much. Brian Kennedy. This is what President Trump is talking about. Maybe an iron dome for the U.S. anti ballistic missile. Quite controversial. The concept of to get the cost and building. Quite controversial. This is one of the reasons. This is what Star wars about that brought the Russians to their knees back with President Reagan. Grant. Where do people go to get your writings? Where do they go to get your book? All of it. We'll have you back on. Talk more the kinetic part as we go up the escalatory ladder with the Chinese Communist Party. Sir.
Grant Newsham
Sure. My Twitter is newshamusham Grant. Everything I write is at the center for Security policy website. Also www.grantnewsham.org. excuse me.com. and if you want to really do something the presentdanger china.org website gives you some ideas of how to get to your representative and tell them to do things like support Mr. Trump's America first investment policy to Wall street raising money for Chinese battery companies. Do recommend that. And there's would also like to see the finally the wealth, the obscene wealth of the Chinese leadership exposed. This is supposed to have been done already. It hasn't been done. That would be something that would really hurt the Chinese.
Stephen K. Bannon
The report put out by the inward poor is embarrassing. It was so silly. Stupid.
Grant Newsham
Yeah.
Stephen K. Bannon
Newsweek's got an amazing piece. I'll get you. And Cleo Pascal is actually in it. An amazing piece about the three island chains and the Chinese Communist Party basically picking up for free what an American generation gave their blood for. That was the islands in the South Pacific. Because we're going to get back involved in that. Trust me. Grant. Colonel, thank you so much. You're a seer and look forward to having you back on, sir.
Grant Newsham
Sure. Thanks for having me.
Stephen K. Bannon
You know, I feel pretty damn good. Go back and look at what we've talked to this audience about and presented the details. And always including Wuhan Lab, when we were the first to become war and pandemic. And on the very first freaking show of that, back in 23rd January, I think it was, or the 20th of January of 2020, laid out exactly what was coming out of Wuhan Lab and why they were doing it. This is one of the reasons I was the first day of the Biden regime. I was fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party, Navarro, Pompeo, Pottinger and myself. Fully sanctioned. I was the only civilian and proud of it. These people are diabolical. And they're in business with the elites in this nation who don't have no pause whatsoever. Be in business. That's the type of people, that's the type of internal enemies we have in this country, country, domestic enemies. Mike Lindell, we're finishing strong here. Running through the tape. You sell me a pillow.
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Episode 4414: Trade War With China; Preventing The Boxing Out Of American Excellence
Release Date: April 15, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Platform: WarRoom.org
Podcast Series: Bannon’s War Room
Duration: Approximately 56 minutes
In Episode 4414 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves deep into the ongoing trade conflict between the United States and China, discussing strategies to safeguard American excellence from being overshadowed by Chinese economic and technological advancements. The episode features insightful conversations with key political figures like Jeff Davis, Cameron Kinsey, and Grant Newsham, providing a comprehensive analysis of the current geopolitical climate, local political dynamics, and economic challenges facing America.
Stephen K. Bannon opens the discussion by criticizing mainstream media’s portrayal of political events, asserting that they deliberately misrepresent facts to the detriment of American interests. He emphasizes the importance of direct communication between political leaders and the public, bypassing traditional media channels.
Key Discussion Points:
Border Security and Immigration Policies: Bannon highlights President Trump’s effective border security measures, including the construction of the border wall, which were implemented rapidly compared to previous administrations. He criticizes Senator Lankford of Oklahoma for opposing these measures, labeling his stance as deceptive and controlled opposition.
“[00:43] Stephen K. Bannon: …President Trump did it under 60 days. ... Tell me about that give me some feedback because sir, you're a liar.”
Economic Implications of Immigration: Bannon argues that immigration policies have been manipulated by business interests to favor low-skilled labor, undermining American workers. He reflects on the detrimental effects of visa programs like H1B, which he claims exploit American labor markets.
“[04:18] Jeff Davis: ... the whole visa program on the high skilled labor, the H1B visas, folks, they don't have a skill set better than yours. ... It’s unacceptable in America in the 21st century.”
Local Political Strategies: Jeff Davis discusses the strategies employed in South Carolina to counteract liberal policies within a predominantly conservative state. He underscores the importance of grassroots organization and educating voters about political manipulation by consultants and special interests.
“[04:18] Jeff Davis: ... we are trying to educate as many people about the precinct process...”
Jeff Davis provides an in-depth look at the political landscape in South Carolina, detailing efforts to combat liberal infiltration and maintain MAGA principles within local GOP structures. He emphasizes the role of grassroots movements in countering the influence of political consultants who funnel money into state politics to push a liberal agenda.
Notable Points:
Precinct Reorganization: The strategy to activate all 2,307 precincts in South Carolina with dedicated MAGA supporters is highlighted as a critical measure to secure local elections and maintain conservative dominance.
“[04:18] Jeff Davis: ...our goal is to activate each one of those 2,307 precincts with 3, 4, 5 MAGA America first people...”
Controlled Opposition: Davis criticizes the current Democratic-controlled initiatives as controlled opposition, designed to mislead the electorate and undermine genuine conservative efforts.
“[04:18] Jeff Davis: ...tell me about that give me some feedback because sir, you're a liar. This is what you got up there.”
Stephen K. Bannon complements Davis’s insights by highlighting the disintermediation strategy employed by President Trump to directly engage with voters, circumventing mainstream media biases.
“[00:43] Stephen K. Bannon: ...President Trump lights him up in the Oval every day... It’s called disintermediation.”
The episode also touches upon practical issues affecting listeners, notably the Tax Day deadline. Cameron Kinsey from Tax Network USA provides a segment offering assistance to listeners grappling with tax filings and IRS-related anxieties.
Key Highlights:
Tax Relief Services: Kinsey outlines the services offered by Tax Network USA, including audit representation, negotiation of penalties, and liaison services with the IRS to alleviate taxpayer stress.
“[11:07] Cameron Kinsey: ...we act as a liaison between you and the IRS so you don't have to deal with them yourself.”
Promotional Offers: The segment includes promotional information, encouraging listeners to seek professional help to manage their tax obligations effectively.
“[54:05] Stephen K. Bannon: ...call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That’s 800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com.”
Notable Quote:
“[14:07] Cameron Kinsey: ...we're all on the same side here. We're fighting against government overreach, and we're standing with the American worker.”
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the escalatory trade war with China and the broader implications of CCP’s actions on global stability and American security.
Grant Newsham, a military strategist and author, engages in a detailed conversation about the systemic war between the U.S. and China, emphasizing the historical and contemporary strategies used by American elites to undermine national interests.
Key Discussion Points:
Economic Sabotage by Elites: Newsham accuses Wall Street and the American business class of enabling the CCP’s rise by funneling funds and technology, effectively weakening the U.S. economy and security.
“[34:16] Grant Newsham: ...Wall street, the business class, they have funded the build up of the Chinese Communist Party...”
Historical Parallels: He draws parallels between current U.S.-China relations and historical conflicts, highlighting missed opportunities to curb the CCP’s ambitions.
“[41:54] Grant Newsham: ...they squandered every one of them [chances].”
Military Preparedness: The conversation shifts to the necessity of strengthening American military capabilities, including discussions on anti-ballistic missile systems like the proposed Iron Dome for the U.S.
“[46:23] Brian Kennedy: ...President Trump had an executive order directing the DoD to come up with a way of building a 21st century missile defense that would actually work.”
Notable Quotes:
Newsham on Elites’ Betrayal:
“[34:16] Grant Newsham: ...the elites wall street, the business class, they have funded the build up of the Chinese Communist Party...”
Bannon on Strategic Failures:
“[38:56] Grant Newsham: ...America, its middle class, its working class, were sold out by the elites in this country.”
Brian Kennedy discusses the urgent need for enhanced defense mechanisms to protect the United States from potential ballistic missile threats posed by China and other adversaries. He emphasizes the importance of robust missile defense systems to ensure national security.
Key Highlights:
Iron Dome for the U.S.: Kennedy introduces the concept of an anti-ballistic missile system tailored for American defense, drawing inspiration from Israel’s Iron Dome.
“[46:22] Mike Lindell: ...America's most trusted name in emergency preparedness...”
Webinar Announcement: He announces an upcoming webinar hosted by the Claremont Institute to discuss the implementation and benefits of the proposed missile defense system.
“[47:57] Brian Kennedy: ...We withdrew from it. We have a rudimentary system...”
Stephen K. Bannon reinforces the necessity of these defense measures, underscoring the strategic importance of countering Chinese military advancements.
“[39:23] Stephen K. Bannon: ...the mission is to defend the United States. And Grant Newsham, the colonel, wrote a book that if you read it, it's a horror story.”
The episode culminates with Stephen K. Bannon urging listeners to take proactive steps in supporting American interests both politically and economically. He emphasizes the importance of grassroots activism, financial preparedness, and national solidarity in the face of escalating geopolitical threats.
Final Takeaways:
Grassroots Mobilization: Bannon highlights the critical role of local activism and voter education in maintaining and expanding MAGA influence across states.
“[50:10] Stephen K. Bannon: ...cta grassroots movements in countering the influence of political consultants...”
Economic Self-Sufficiency: Encouraging listeners to manage financial anxieties through services like Tax Network USA, Bannon stresses the importance of economic stability as a foundation for national strength.
“[54:37] Stephen K. Bannon: ...call the experts at Tax Network USA...”
National Defense and Unity: He reiterates the need for a united national defense strategy to counteract the CCP’s ambitions and secure America’s future.
“[39:23] Stephen K. Bannon: ...this war we're in...”
Closing Remarks:
Stephen K. Bannon closes the episode by acknowledging the ongoing efforts of guests and promoting upcoming events and webinars related to national defense and economic strategies, ensuring listeners are well-informed and equipped to contribute to America’s resilience.
Stephen K. Bannon (00:02):
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.”
Jeff Davis (04:18):
“Nothing can defeat an active, small, active group of people in each one of those precincts.”
Cameron Kinsey (11:07):
“We're fighting against government overreach, and we're standing with the American worker.”
Grant Newsham (34:16):
“Wall street, the business class, they have funded the build up of the Chinese Communist Party...”
Brian Kennedy (46:23):
“It’s called the golden dome, as President Trump said...”
Stephen K. Bannon (39:23):
“We are still financing the Chinese Communist Party and still giving them technology.”
Media Skepticism: The episode underscores a deep distrust in mainstream media, advocating for direct communication channels to ensure unfiltered information reaches the public.
Economic Nationalism: Emphasizing policies that prioritize American workers and industries, the podcast advocates for stringent immigration controls and protectionist economic strategies to bolster national prosperity.
Geopolitical Strategy: A significant focus is placed on countering China’s rise through military preparedness, economic policies, and strategic alliances with allied nations in East Asia.
Grassroots Activism: The importance of local political engagement and education is highlighted as pivotal in maintaining conservative dominance and countering liberal influence at the state and local levels.
Economic Relief and Stability: Practical segments addressing financial anxieties, such as tax relief assistance, are interspersed with broader political discussions, tying individual economic well-being to national strength.
Episode 4414 of Bannon’s War Room offers a critical examination of the United States’ ongoing trade war with China, emphasizing the need for strategic economic policies, robust national defense mechanisms, and grassroots political mobilization to preserve and enhance American excellence. Through candid discussions with key political figures, the episode provides listeners with actionable insights and a call to collective action in facing both domestic and international challenges.