
Episode 4417: No Rule Of Law In The Jungle While Dealing With Russia ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Chris Acavella, what's going to happen if we delist the Chinese companies that don't do a proper accounting? Or over here doing espionage of. Erik Prince joins us. If they're doing all the above, what's going to happen if we delist these?
Erik Prince
Well, we're going to cut off the flow of capital to an adversary. And I think that's what we need to do. We cannot continue to fund our own destruction. It makes no sense.
Steve Bannon
Okay, but. Okay, I got that. I agree with that. However, let me bring up a unpleasant fact. The pension funds, Wall street put pension institutional money in all these companies. This is just not America. So if you delist them and they drop in value by 50% and then people's pension funds have gone down, what do we do then?
Erik Prince
Well, they can reinvest that money into United States companies that actually comply with the rule of law, that have good financials and that stimulate economic growth and job creation here. And what we just talked about in the last segment was that you're trying to bring the manufacturing base back through this reorganization of the international world order. And so the capital will flow. It won't flow out, it will stay in. And I think that's the purpose of the President's policies.
Steve Bannon
How, how provocative. I'm going to ask Princess in a second after you bounce, Chris, but how provocative is it saying we're going to put in additional licensing by the government on the, on the Nvidia what 20 chip? How escalatory in your opinion is that?
Erik Prince
Sir, I think it's necessary. Those chips are going to allow our enemy to build up a military that's capable of rivaling us, and we cannot have that. That's the whole point of putting sanctions on the quantum computing capabilities, the semiconductors and all the technology and Military industrial complex over there. And that's what we're doing. That's why I testify fight last week.
Chris Acavella
That.
Erik Prince
That's got to stop.
Steve Bannon
Chris, where do people go to get your testimony? Your site, your social media? You're putting out great stuff all the time on this fight. You've been with us fighting this thing for 20 years. Where do people go?
Erik Prince
Thanks. It's at Amer Securities.
Steve Bannon
Is that your social media also? That's where you go. So that's on Twitter and all of it?
Erik Prince
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Thanks for making.
Erik Prince
Thank you for having me, Steve. Happy Easter.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Eric Prince. Look who's in the neighborhood. This is why I came back. Mr. Bannon's neighborhood, Mr. Rogers neighborhood. What a perfect day for you to come back. Let's start with Chris. I understand, but if you do, I'm all for delisting. Here's the issue for the audience. Start thinking this through. It's quite. When we talk about decoupling, and we're in embargo right now, we talk about decoupling, it gets quite complicated because they've been at this for 25 years. They have. Also, the Chinese Communist Party ain't going down without a fight. And here's why. They're not going down without a fight. Let me remember Romania in the Christmas of 1989. Was it when Ceausescu. When Ceausescu fell and he goes out to the thing, he gives a big speech and half the crowd's booing, and he and the wife do the hightail. It was 48 hours later, they had him stood up against the wall. And here's where I admire the wife. She told the guys when the guns were right, go F yourself.
Mike Lindell
Right?
Steve Bannon
And they took. Boom. The Chinese Communist Party. Understand their end's not going to come well, right?
Chris Acavella
It's not going to end with a feather duster.
Steve Bannon
It's not going to end with a feather duster. So they're dug in, right?
Chris Acavella
Sure.
Steve Bannon
And they've planned on this for 20, 25 years. This is why they've cut us off from rare earths. As you've. I had Erik Prince on Breitbart radio. Got to be 10, 12 years ago. 12 years. Talking about rare earths.
Chris Acavella
Yep.
Steve Bannon
Right. Talking about rare earths and talking about how important rare earths were. In fact, at that time, I think they were cutting off Japan. They had a. It was a thing about the East China Sea, about fishing islands and fishing vessels. The Chinese had their. All the fishing vessels are spy vessels. So the Japanese said, hey, look, it'd be nice if these guys weren't here. They had a thing and they threatened to cut the. They threatened to cut them off with. With of rare earths back then. And that got to be a huge deal back then. So we've been at this now. The cutting is off from magnets. They're cutting us off from ball bearings. I tell people, ball bearings, 12 o'clock high. Our movie, right? The war movie is all about kids doing precision daylight bombing. Not at nighttime like the Brits did, but higher casualties. Daylight bombing to take out the ball bearing factories in the Ruhr Valley. Ball bearings are central to a military machine and to an industrial machine. So we just announced that we're cutting them out with additional licensing for the Nvidia.
Chris Acavella
It's totally appropriate. Why? The first strategic offset after we had a standoff with the Soviet Union after World War II was nuclear strike. We had it, then they got it. Then it became a big contest of who could throw more tons. Then it became precision.
Steve Bannon
Oh, by the way, let me be blunt. Just like today, the $30 trillion of intellectual property that we either gave or the Chinese stole was the reason the Russians had the nuke. Not that they didn't have the theory. They had tons of theoretician physicists.
Chris Acavella
They stole it.
Steve Bannon
They stole the stolen or. And or given to them, right? The Rosenbergs later, you know, went to the Jewish reward because they gave them on the hydrogen bomb. But the same way the Bolsheviks actually access technology from the United States of America. And hey, a lot of this made by foreigners come here, particularly the Russian theoretical physicists, right?
Chris Acavella
First precision strike stuff started in Vietnam. Obviously we got good at it in the 80s and the 90s. You saw that in Gulf War One and Gulf War Two. Now everyone.
Steve Bannon
Unrestricted warfare came from that. The Chinese Communist Party, these young, these colonels looked at Schwarzkopf and all these things on precision munitions and they came to conclusion, foreign devils will always lead battlefield. And they're crazy. And they don't mind pulling up alongside like Nelson and unsheath the guns. Let's go back to Sun Tzu. We got to do something different, right?
Chris Acavella
Yes, we. We proud Lawy.
Steve Bannon
Exactly.
Chris Acavella
Precision strike. Then it became pervasive. Now everyone has it. Everyone from ISIS had it and, you know, Ukrainian hobbyists. And so you see the acceleration of that.
Steve Bannon
Hamas.
Chris Acavella
Hamas, sure. So it's pervasive. It's everywhere. It's cheap. So the next strategic offset, the next real competition is in. Is at the AI edge. And so the Nvidia Servers processing units are effectively the brain matter of that AI. So yeah, it's appropriate this Chinese are trying to. I know this personally. The Chinese are actively trying to steal from the leading companies which makes those high speed servers because they don't make them well.
Steve Bannon
They don't make any advanced technology. They have to steal because they can replicate well. But they have not been able to create well even with deep seeking. I'm not saying that, I'm not saying we should not do that. First off, cut them off from the 100, 100%, then put the license in to cut them off from this. My point is on the strategic side, is this not equivalent, and maybe I'm overplaying this. It's not equivalent of cutting off the Japanese of oil in August of 1941. Is that, did we just do that? Inquiring minds want to know.
Chris Acavella
No, I don't think it's as severe. It's not a full on because we're not. Look, because the Chinese import still 75, 80% of their hydrocarbons, we haven't blockaded the Straits of Malacca or cut off the.
Steve Bannon
Well, you did weren't here for the early part of the show. I want to do that with the Persians. You don't. We don't have a bombing run. You don't have all this controversy of the Pentagon right now, Bibi showing up every two weeks. Hey, I'm just here to talk about, you know, oh, by the way, I want to convince you to back our bombing run in Persia. We can't do that. The damage on a military strike on Persia would suck us into another war. They ship 2 million barrels a day. Nobody talks about this. They ship. They just say 1.6. That's a lie. They got all kind of fake ships out there. They ship 2 million barrels a day through the Straits of Hormuz, right through Malacca, around India, around India. Diego Garcia. I'm just naming some strategic points you may be hearing about here. Just like in the 1930s, nobody was focused on Wake island or nobody was focused on the Solomons or Guadalcanal, but they became big news stories years later, right down Diego Garcia. Right. So if we cut the Persians off from the 2 million barrels a day by having the navy, instead of being the Red Sea keeping the Suez Canal open, maybe we just take one of our two battle groups and put it over in the North Arabian Sea and say, hey, and tell the Chinese you don't get any oil from the Persian. Tell the Persians this is what an economic blockade looks like. And we don't want to verify your system. We're not in the verification business. That's jcpoa. I want to go in with Americans and we're going to take it apart brick by brick.
Chris Acavella
Here's the easy button to do that. There are multiple US Plaintiffs that have been damaged to the tune of billions of dollars, have been awarded billions of dollars of damage against the Iranian state.
Steve Bannon
Well, this is the 1983 families, isn't it? Part of that's the families. The Marine Corps, the Marine barracks. The Marine barracks families in 1983. Those servicemen that gave their lives, their families actually have been awarded in a court the ability to get billions of dollars of assets. Right?
Chris Acavella
Yes. And the crude that is on those Iranian government owned vessels rounding India are all subject to being taken by a privateer who's enforcing a judgment in the United States. So the US Navy doesn't even have to be involved.
Steve Bannon
Say the word I got, it'll be.
Chris Acavella
Done by 10 days.
Steve Bannon
This is why Eric Prince is one of my best buddies. I love this guy. He's here in war room and not even through his first segment, he's already making a pitch. He's pitching business. This is his letter. Hold it. President Trump, if you're gonna watch the clip, Natalie Harvey, get the clip here later. Here's the pitch. He needs a letter of mark. He needs a letter of mark. He's a pirate anyway. He needs a letter of mark. You're back to the British Empire, Article 1. You're Francis Drake.
Chris Acavella
Francis Drake was a badass. I love to be Francis.
Steve Bannon
You're the Francis Drake of America. You need a letter of mark.
Chris Acavella
Hey, Marco Rubio, Article 1, Section 8. Having gone through the whole American Revolution, the founding fathers said, Congress shall have the ability to enter a letter of mark before they even talk about raising a navy or an army.
Steve Bannon
So yes, that's how the British Crown did it, right? They had the Royal Navy, but hey, the British, the privateers, as they called them, the guys taken 2020.
Chris Acavella
If you want to jam up the Iranians, that's how to do it.
Steve Bannon
So first of all, let's talk about that. You're saying right now, if you were issued a letter of marque, folks, this is not crazy talk because we're living in uncertain times. This is a way to actually solve. If you want to make the world a safer place. Right now, it's quite simple. Make sure that you cut off China from energy, Right? And you make sure that the Persians aren't able to monetize their carbon resources. Correct. That would. That would bring. We're not really at economic war with the Persians right now. It's all patty cake. They have assets all over the place. West end of London, midtown Manhattan. They got real assets. They get cash assets. They get assets and banks.
Chris Acavella
Hundreds of billions in Dubai.
Steve Bannon
Hundreds of billions in Dubai. Think about it. In Ukraine. What the crazed democrats in this Ukraine thing, they were going to. They treated the Russians and the Russian central bank 100 times worse than we treated the Nazis or Imperial Japan. Japan. Right. We've actually taken not just the interest off their assets. We seized the assets. Not just to keep it from them. They're monetizing. This is why President Trump keeps saying, hey, the Europeans just lent the money. What they've done is taken the Russian assets in the European banks and essentially monetize it to give the money Ukraine's. We haven't done any. I just want to make sure. We haven't done nearly, nearly anything like that against the Persians.
Glenn Beck
Correct.
Chris Acavella
The Europeans have been buying gas from the Russians the whole time.
Steve Bannon
100 said Germany. Yeah, yeah. This whole phony thing where you're giving $350 billion. Okay. You're saying right now, as a privateer, you can take Iranian vessels. Not vessels from. Not, not, not. Not all the guys are under the flags of the Central American countries or that if you're under another flag, you can't do it. But anything's under Iranian flag. A vessel.
Chris Acavella
Yes, sir.
Steve Bannon
You can take that. Eric. Eric. Erik Prince's first pitch in the hay block. That's his first, but it would stop it. The other thing you see, being a naval officer, we got to deal with the pirates. This is like the Royal Navy in the.
Chris Acavella
John Paul. John Paul Jones was founder of the US Navy, privateer private, buried at the Naval Academy. I think he's buried in vodka in the basement of the Naval Academy chapel.
Steve Bannon
He's held it. Exactly. John Paul Jones later actually worked as a. As a man of a mercenary for some. And some people actually have said that Erik Prince might. For the Russian Navy, the world's most prominent mercenary. Eric Princess. Okay. But the United States Navy, if we just got the order, you could blockade in. You could stop every vessel of any flag from coming the streets of Hormuz and say, guys, turn it around. It ain't going anywhere. You would bring the mullahs in Tehran to their knees in 90 days. You would have. The people themselves would overthrow it. I'm not saying I'm for regime change. I'm for whatever the people want. If they're. If they're hungry and they get no 2 million barrels a day. Don't anybody lie to you. That's what's going to China and that's keeping chance 20% of China's deal short commercial break Erik Prince is in the house. He's made pitch number one. I think we got two or three more. Hell, we haven't gotten to Central America yet. The big one. You're on the front page of the New York times every day. MSNBC's heads below. Rachel Maddow here's your clip for tonight. Erik Prince pitching business in the war room in America's home. You don't go out and buy a life jacket when the boat is already sinking and you don't buy gold when the economy has already collapsed. Clearly others are heeding this advice as gold hit an all time high the first part of 2025 multiple times. It's not too late for you. The company I trust to help you diversify into physical gold is Birch Gold. The company I buy my gold from. Birch Gold specializes in helping you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold for no money out of pocket. Just listen to this five star review. Quote knowledgeable, helpful, non pressure, end quote. That's what you get with Burch Gold and that's why I've endorsed them for so long. Get your free info kit on gold by texting the word Bannon B a N N o n to 989-898. There's no obligation, just useful information with an A rating from the Better Business Bureau and countless five star reviews. Text Bannon B a N N o N to 989-898 and let the experts at Birchgold help you secure your financial future today with gold. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock. By the way, the war room engine room, the posse engine room is informing me that first in the scale of the cap table. The vessel's got to be seized right away after the Chinese have paid for it, right? Billa Laden's gotta be Chinese money for Covid reparations. That's something I don't hear anything about. COVID reparations for the biological weapon. They got a biological warfare out of Wuhan and they got chemical warfare in the second Opium War coming through. Fentanyl. They got to pay for it all. If we're not prepared to do that, we're not a country. We're not serious. We have unserious. Look at that. Look at that group at CNBC today yammering like they're freshmen in college. Like some, some group grope in a, in a, in a, in a dorm. So, you know, just sitting around with the most immature way you could talk about serious issues. Erik Prince. Francis Drake.
Chris Acavella
Francis Drake was a mariner, privateer. Extraordinary guy. There was obviously big conflict between the British Empire and the Spanish realm. And he sailed all the way from Portsmouth all the way to the southern tip of Argentina, raiding Spanish gold ships. He sailed around the southern tip of South America, which is the most violent sea in the world. It's now called the Drake Passage. Forty foot, fifty foot seas. Sails up the west side to the Chile side, raids more gold ships. He's so heavily laden, he can't go back through those seas. So he sails west all the way around the rest of the world, around Africa. Circumnavigates, fully loaded with gold. Takes so much gold back to England, that allows them to go on the gold standard.
Steve Bannon
That shows you how much you do not. What's called the roaring 40s. You do not want to go around South America. Correct. Down by Antarctica. That is bad sea duty. A really bad ass guy. Talk about another Glenn story. You join us today, sir? Patriot Mobile. I keep telling people we don't need to talk about what all the great work you do. I gave a speech in Greenville, South Carolina to amazing patriots that have taken back their county gp, precinct strategy. They're going to the state and I use Tarrant County. You were so great to get us down to Denton into Tarrant county. But Tarrant county is the example for the whole country. What do you got for us today?
Glenn Beck
Well, we get a lot brewing. But before I get going, I just want to say hi to Eric. I love him. I've. I've even got something that he may like here. It's called the up phone. Eric. Have you ever heard of it?
Chris Acavella
I have.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Chris Acavella
Well, thanks, Glenn.
Steve Bannon
Why is that.
Glenn Beck
Why is that.
Steve Bannon
Why is that phone so special? Why is that phone so special?
Glenn Beck
You know, I'm gonna let the gentleman sit there and tell you what's so special about it. He knows better than all of us.
Chris Acavella
Look, we started it after the election was stolen from President Trump and Big Tech was.
Steve Bannon
Was the election stolen?
Chris Acavella
Yes, it was.
Steve Bannon
No doubt in your mind if it.
Chris Acavella
Looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
Steve Bannon
Yep.
Chris Acavella
Big Tech was. Has entirely too much control in surveillance capitalism. So we built a phone that's the antidote to that which does not collect your data and export your data in an area.
Steve Bannon
What is surveillance capitalism.
Chris Acavella
The reason Google is so valuable, the reason that Google pays $17 billion a year to Apple, just so that the Google search engine is the first one on an iPhone. Okay, so why does Google do that? To collect and harvest all of your data. Where you go, who you call, what you buy, what you browse, and they sell your data and you consent to it, and it makes it possible for you to be targeted for advertising. Now, in an era of AI now, the algorithm is building up more and more of your digital profile, and it's scary. The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has 72 million data points collected on them. So the unplugged phone prevents that because it doesn't have an ad id. The phone at the root level blocks the export of all your stuff. So it lets you communicate and be in the world, but not of the world.
Steve Bannon
Amazing Glenn story, sir.
Glenn Beck
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Steve Bannon
By the way, John Bash, I believe was at the White House Counsel's office also for President.
Glenn Beck
That's right.
Steve Bannon
First term.
Glenn Beck
That's right.
Steve Bannon
John Bash. Good man. Talent people. Right now, how can they switch over One of my concerns that everybody knows what a great company you are and patriotic and support, you know, second Amendment, first responders, all that. This issue is now about switching. You've got the three primary care carriers. You offer all these special. You can get, you can get two phone numbers. Give us your pitch because I want people to understand they can make this switch and make it asap.
Glenn Beck
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Steve Bannon
It's easy.
Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Amen story.
Steve Bannon
Thank you very much, sir.
Glenn Beck
Appreciate you have a blessed day. Thank you, guys.
Steve Bannon
Patriot Mobile, go check it out today. Okay. Mass deportations, I'm getting, We're getting lit up every day. They're getting criminals over that. But the mass deportation part has not started. If I believe the New York Times and msnbc. You're the mass.
Chris Acavella
You're.
Steve Bannon
You're actually proposing to. Because right now DHS doesn't have that because Biden gutted it at all. They don't have the infrastructure. And the 170 billion is not coming yet. What are you actually proposing? Because if I read the New York Times, I listen to msnbc. You're the great, you're the great devil that's trying to ship everybody down to a prison somewhere.
Chris Acavella
Well, I visited El Salvador Secot Prison back in September, long before the election and came away from that saying President Trump's campaigning on a deportation strategy. A promise, a valid promise. Because, you know, there's talk 15, 20 million people have entered the country illegally and they need to leave. So some are going to voluntarily deport, but most are not. So how do you do that at industrial scale? And that requires significantly more resources than the government has. And especially when, you know, some bureaucrats want to do the job and step up, but a lot of them don't. And so if President Trump.
Steve Bannon
So the deep state and the administrative state are still there fighting Trump every day inside DHS and other places.
Chris Acavella
Sure, sure. And so if, if his plan is to say, I'm gonna only depend on federal agencies to do this, then he's gonna get to the midterms with poultry numbers, with numbers that are probably behind even what Biden's were. And I don't think that's what he wants. That's certainly not what he campaigned on. So we gave them. Broke it down. Cuz this is a math issue. How do you find, how do you locate, improve? How do you know?
Steve Bannon
Do you triage first with the criminals or do you go right to the mass deportations?
Chris Acavella
Triage first with the people that have the deportation. The final deportation orders already done. Because they've committed crimes and they should have been deported years ago. Find them apprehended.
Steve Bannon
That's over a. That's a million one, I think.
Chris Acavella
No, it's like a million six.
Steve Bannon
A million six. So that's a big number.
Chris Acavella
It's a huge number.
Steve Bannon
So May and six have final deportation orders.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Steve Bannon
And they should be out of the country.
Chris Acavella
That's the easy button. And that's 10% of what you're.
Steve Bannon
Yes.
Chris Acavella
Trying to get to. If you do apprehend them, the people that don't have final deportation orders are entitled to some kind of a hearing and administrative law procedure.
Steve Bannon
But you can, you can, you can, you can march.
Chris Acavella
You can do that at scale.
Steve Bannon
You get scale. How do you do that scale right at the border?
Chris Acavella
Football. Football stadiums.
Steve Bannon
Yes.
Chris Acavella
Okay, and then how do we do in football stadiums?
Steve Bannon
I want MSNBC's head to blow up tonight. How we do it in football stadiums? Just get them on. 70,000 people.
Chris Acavella
You can advertise, you can, you can effectively deputize administrative law judges to have that.
Steve Bannon
If you have a sense of urgency, you can do it.
Chris Acavella
Yes, let's.
Steve Bannon
Let me go back. I want to go down the scale because I want to get to the mass deportations. But I tell you what, let's take a break and come back. I want to start with the 1.6 million. The 1.6 million when compress all the criminal element plus other people here that do have a leave order and are breaking the law by remaining here. Right.
Chris Acavella
And so that's more than 1.6.
Steve Bannon
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Chris Acavella
Have a, have a final deportation order.
Steve Bannon
A final deportation order. So they get.
Chris Acavella
They must leave. They must leave and they're just on the run in society right now.
Steve Bannon
What is your first off? Do you need ICE to help apprehend them? Your proposal that's so controversial you put forward says what?
Chris Acavella
It's not controversial. It's just maximizing the resources of other government resources. You have thousands of sheriffs in America that can be motivated and they volunteer for this.
Steve Bannon
We've had sheriffs on his. They should be the striking arm of this.
Chris Acavella
Yes, because they're.
Steve Bannon
Why are we not doing that? Why are Tom Holman and these guys not asking for that?
Chris Acavella
I think they're trying to. They're trying to get their legs, but they're. I think they'll come around. There's ICE is out of capacity, so they're going to have to pivot to using other private sector resources, whether it's county jails, under the purview of county sheriffs.
Steve Bannon
Well, that's public. That's public. That's not private. That's public. Just not federal.
Chris Acavella
Not federal. Fair.
Steve Bannon
So you're saying local sheriffs, local jails.
Chris Acavella
Our concept included building holding camps next to large airfields. So as people are apprehended.
Steve Bannon
Put them right on the plane.
Chris Acavella
Put them on the plane. And it's a. And the cost of our program was like 85% aircraft. Because it's costly. If you think I Think our program was like $26 billion. Think about the illegal criminal profit that was made by the cartels for smuggling people into America over these last years. Because it's all about a logistics issue. And if the Trump administration wants to hit anything close to the numbers that they promised, they have to rally and let the private sector do what it.
Steve Bannon
Does best in your proposal. Of the 1.6, what's the total number that you've proposed?
Chris Acavella
Oh, I think we were at a scale to do 15 million.
Steve Bannon
Not $15 million?
Chris Acavella
No, 15 million people.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, but I'm saying let's, we'll set that aside for later. Here's my point. If we don't get the 1.6 out of the final orders, you're not going to get the rest.
Chris Acavella
It's a hose with a valve and you turn it on. You can go fast or you can.
Steve Bannon
Start off one thing. If, if, if people were to engage you to say, I want the 1.6 million out as soon as possible, what is the cost of that? Roughly round up to the closest billion.
Chris Acavella
It's a, it's a few billion. It's.
Steve Bannon
That's it.
Chris Acavella
Yeah, it's not, it's not terrible.
Steve Bannon
And then if you were to get that contract or a group of companies like you said would get that contract and work with Homan and Kristi Noemi, what could you tell the American people and the President? It would take us how long to do that? A year, two years?
Chris Acavella
I think we could do it by the midterm.
Steve Bannon
You think? In 18 months. Are people taking this proposal seriously?
Chris Acavella
I tend to not, Steve, so.
Steve Bannon
Okay, good. I think that Eric Prince is a serious guy. I want to get to the other mass duper. Just a second, but we've got Leo Smirnoff joins us now. Leo, tell us, tee this up first.
Chris Acavella
Sure.
Steve Bannon
Why is he important?
Chris Acavella
Why President Trump?
Steve Bannon
Why is he on the war room?
Chris Acavella
President Trump campaigned on supporting American business. And I heard about Leo's story. A immigrant came to America, became an American citizen in the mid-80s, built a business. He's originally from Russia. Built a business in Russia in late, I think started 99. He basically is the Campbell soup of Russia called glove product. And because of no fault of his own, because of this stupid war, the Russian government and Russian enabled gangsters are basically seizing control of his business and expropriating it. And if President Trump campaigned on America first policies, then American businesses should be the priority. Not even the Ukrainian border. And so I just hope that Steve Witkoff and President Trump take It as a priority to stick up for Americans. And I wanted to beyond because I have also had all guns pointed at me and not many people were lending a hand other than you. And so I think I wanted him to come on to say, yeah, I built this business. I did the American dream.
Steve Bannon
Here's the reality. You built a business, you're from Russia, you built a business back there, but you know, it shouldn't be. Lawson, you're a sophisticated guy. Hell, you came from there. You know the KGB runs the deal. This is like somebody saying in Shanghai, hey, the CCPC is my business, isn't it? Tough break for a swell guy, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes. When I started this business in 1999, it was different. It was different. We all believe that it was free world now. And everybody was coming in. European Americans, it was great. And in, at least on the surface it was free. Free enterprise, free everything. You can do many things, everything was accepted so well. That's why thousands and thousands of companies came in. All the brands in the world, all the American brands, European brands, big companies. And some of the American companies still there, big companies like Mars and PepsiCo and American Tobacco and Philip Morris and many, many others. And nobody expect that something happened. What happened? We did not know that. And since me, it's my business, it's three factories, thousand people. It's not something take it and the packet and go, okay. I was investing that and I was building that for 26 years of my life. And that was unexpected. And this war, who don't dream, who would have dream that Russia will fight war with Ukraine? It's like Texas fighting Alabama or something like that. And we didn't expect that, but that happened. And to be honest with you, I've been Republican for a very long time. I vote for President Trump three times. Every time he run, I vote for him. And I gotta tell you, I believe what he's saying, that this war can.
Steve Bannon
Be avoided because somebody, but hang on one second. Explain the American people right now, because we don't. We haven't had opportunity to have a lot of Russians on here. Why do you say the Russian Ukraine war is like Texas invading Alabama? Why do you say that? What do you mean by that?
Stephen K. Bannon
Because it's a. It's Slavic people. They all speak the same language. It used to be one country. Everybody have. Russians have relatives in. Russians have relatives in Ukraine. Ukraine have relatives in Russia. I mean, it's so interconnected. It's like. That's why I give this as an example.
Chris Acavella
It matters because it is in the interest of the United States to pull Russia away from the orbit of China.
Steve Bannon
Exactly.
Chris Acavella
And going forward, once this war is settled, we need to have commercial relations with Russia. And if the track record of any American that's gone invested there is getting his business smashed by the gangster. And isn't part of that deal with the Russian part.
Steve Bannon
Okay, but this is like World War II. You're dealing with Stalin, a Bolshevik. Okay, you know exactly what you're getting there. If you. In these negotiations with Wyckoff and the president. And look, I'm empathetic to this guy's plight, but here's what they're going to say. You're going to have no say. So you think Putin's going to sit there and go, you're going to tell me how to run my country? If we're going to do some sort of rapprochement and settle the fight between Texas and Alabama, I'm going to settle that. Guns down. But you're going to tell me that you're going to tell that criminal clique in Moscow that they're not angels. We know they're not angels. They're doing enough deal. It's like when we dealt with Joseph Stalin. We understood he was a bad guy, okay? But at the time, strategically, right, we need that. And with the Orthodox Church and everything you can do and how much I think below the surface, they are part of the Judeo Christian West. I don't know, Leo, you tell me. If you tell. These are a group of thugs. I've never said that they're anything but. The guys who run this deal are thugs. They're going to take this guy's business and say, hey, what are you going to say about it? You're going to say nothing about it, Right? Is there a criminal element that runs Moscow or not? Sir, I will.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, criminal elements, It's a difficult question. Are you talking about Kremlin? Are you. Are you talking about proxy? Are you talking about the kgb?
Steve Bannon
I'm talking about the kgb. I'm talking about the guys in power in the Kremlin, the people that Wyckoff and the president across the negotiating table. These are not angels. These are not Jeffersonian democrats, just like Stalin. We know that. Unfortunately, the tragedy of the Russian people is that they've been ruled from the czars to the Bolsheviks to the KGB by not good guys. The Romanovs were. They were terrible. Everybody said, oh, the Romanovs, they were awful people. And they did awful things to the Russian people. The Bolsheviks were as bad as the Nazis. And the kgb, they're slightly better, but man, they're thugs. Let's understand we're trying to cut a deal on a rapprochement to take away from China a bigger group of criminals. But this is not a group of angels. You know, we're not gonna look in Putin's eyes like Bush and see an evangelical Christian. That's not gonna happen.
Chris Acavella
Of course not. But if there's going to be any kind of commercial relations or trade with Russia going forward, there has to be some semblance of rule of law some of the time. And the point being.
Steve Bannon
Well, he's just said. Leo just said Mars and Pepsi, it's the law of the jungle. And the bigger survive because Pepsi and Mars and American Tobacco and those guys clearly either have deals, understandings or whatever.
Glenn Beck
I will give.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, I'm sorry, I will give you a good example. It was a company called Ariston, part of Bush. They were given temporary government management which is in reality is expropriation. And Italian government got involved and they talked to Russia and they say they told them to slow down and give the company back. And as a result, it was just recently happened maybe less than a month ago. As a result, the company was given back to Italian stockholders.
Steve Bannon
Just have they. Have they. Have they actually. You're the Campbell Soup of Russia. Have they seized your company or they just make it harder for you to run your company there as a business?
Stephen K. Bannon
The way it goes first, it's a degree. It's called temporary management. In reality. In reality. In reality they take over your company permanently.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's permanent temporary management. And the second step. Second step. Second step. They bring the prosecutor general who will find. Like for example, they accuse me, they just opened a lawsuit against me and my American company and they accused me in United uniting with the US Government to cause strategical defeat of Russian Federation. That's in a prosecution language. Okay.
Chris Acavella
For making suit.
Steve Bannon
So.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, so. So I would like to see. And I know.
Steve Bannon
Charge over your head. I would not be going to Moscow anytime soon. That sounds like a gulag. That's. You lose that one, you go to a gulag. Right?
Stephen K. Bannon
That just happened. My hearing first hearing is on Friday and the prosecution general demanding final confiscation of the company company with the three factories and 1,000 people and so on and so forth. And I think, I think. And you understand, I don't know if you know that after this war started and after the sanctions which was placed on Russia by United States and the European Union, it was anti sanctions and after that, in 23, Putin said, well, you know, we're going to find everything what's belong to United States, regardless if it's a state property or it's a private property. We're going to take it all.
Steve Bannon
Leo, hang on for one second. We're just going to go to commercial break, but this is Tick for Tack. We, we seized their, we seized their bank holdings but Putin, these guys seized.
Chris Acavella
But haven't dispersed them, haven't they maybe arrested them, but.
Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
I don't have that. But I do have a message for President Trump. I'd like to say okay.
Steve Bannon
Yep.
Stephen K. Bannon
I would like to ask President Trump to get involved and protect American business in Russia and to show everybody that American business is protected. And that's why I vote for him. Everything is for America. Make America great again, not only here, but everywhere else with American business. And American people doing business. And I think if he will put his mind to it, he will be very successful. As a matter of fact, during the interview with Brembart, he, he said that he did not know about it, but he, if he would have known about.
Steve Bannon
It, that's my Putin would be generous. My recommendation to help you is you got to get a website. You got to get all. You got to get some social media people. You got to get all these. It's not real until people know about it. And just coming on here, you got to get a website. You had great articles. Breitbart, Sirius, New York Post, put them up. And then he should know about it. The way he's going to know about it is get it out into the media. Leo, we'll talk to you. I'll talk to Eric and we'll talk to you afterwards. Thank you for coming on. Appreciate it.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you.
Chris Acavella
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
The underpinning of the Russian rapprochement is going to be the underpinning of the Russian rapprochement is going to be some sort of economic, particularly around energy, just throwing a random thing out there. Energy. What does Russia need? Because these guys, let's be honest, the KGB took power in Russia and these are hard dudes. President Trump, this negotiation right now is a hard, tough negotiation to rapprochement.
Chris Acavella
Right?
Steve Bannon
And it's going to be tough. That's why he's got Wyckoff and the president. And the president is the kind of guy that can deliver. He's the kind of guy can stand at the Chinese Communist Party. He's the kind of guy to deal with the Russians, the kind of guy deal with the Persians. And that's why he's commander in chief.
Chris Acavella
Putin is not even the hardest core end of exactly. By the way, this is what I.
Steve Bannon
Keep saying was she don't expect she to make a phone call, because she going to make a phone call and say, I'm ready to talk. She can be gone. Okay. They got harder guys in China than she and they got harder guys in Moscow.
Chris Acavella
Extreme Russian nationalists, ultra nationalists, want to deal with.
Steve Bannon
Does this say screw the United States. Right.
Chris Acavella
Which is why enforcing the rule of law, even trying to get a rule of law to flourish in any way in Russia is important. Thus the Leo story.
Steve Bannon
But good luck.
Chris Acavella
The Russian.
Steve Bannon
Let's do the rapprochement of the deal first. The Russian lawless. It's a lawless group of gangsters.
Chris Acavella
The Russian to understand that the Russians.
Steve Bannon
You're not going soft on me. I've got Erik Prince. The world's tough. Okay, let's hear about your Francis Drake. Okay, give me Francis Drake. Don't give me the soft.
Chris Acavella
The Russians need US technology to stimulate their oil fields. Okay. Otherwise they're going to have diminished production and pipeline technology, fracking, all of that. Second, I think there's 800 gigatons of greenhouse gases released every year. Human input from that is 80. So the simplest way to. If people are actually worried about climate change, the simplest path.
Steve Bannon
We're not.
Chris Acavella
Fine.
Steve Bannon
Okay.
Chris Acavella
But as a way, as the ninja move for the left to shut them up, right is.
Steve Bannon
Screw the left. Tell me the technology Russia needs to get those fields and, and, and integrate Western Europe because they're still buying. They're buying the gas anyway. Let's integrate Russian.
Chris Acavella
So the reason the United States is energy independent is because of Texas independent small and medium drillers and frackers and pipeline people. That is what's massively expanded that production. That technology. Exactly. That technology badly needed in Russia. Forbidden now because of the stupid war. End it. Tie us together in the, in the oil and gas space.
Steve Bannon
And I don't have enough time because I want to do too. True to the story. But you're going to come back. I'm either do it by Skype tomorrow. Where are you tomorrow? Can I get you on Skype tomorrow? No, I can't get you.
Chris Acavella
Yeah, I can be in person.
Steve Bannon
Okay, let me figure. I got to tell that story about. About Lexington and Concord and I don't have time to tell it now.
Chris Acavella
I can do it right now.
Steve Bannon
Again. Hit it. Hit it.
Chris Acavella
Since Our President is 78 years old, the morning of Lexington and Concord, 19 April. 19 April, as the British are heading there, Samuel Whitmore, a French and Indian war veteran, 78 years old, hears the British going by. He says, not today. He grabs his two dueling pistols that he'd taken off a dead French officer and his musket heads out and single handedly attacks a British unit going by killing three British soldiers. They then turn on him of course, and they shoot him in the face. And they bayonet him six times as he was drawing his sword, which didn't require reloading. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was covered with blood and trying to reload. And he survived. He lived for another 18 years. And when he finally died at the ripe old age of 96, his 10 children and 100 some grandchildren and descendants gathered around to say goodbye. So I just think it's fitting since he was 78. Trump is 78. It's a great point that you are never too old to be out of the fight. That is the grit that made America.
Steve Bannon
That is what made America take. What I love is you take the that you take the weapons you got from the French and Indian War.
Chris Acavella
You take what you got and you.
Steve Bannon
Deploy it and go right ahead. Go to the gunfire. Eric Prince.
Chris Acavella
Cheers, man.
Steve Bannon
The Francis Drake. Don't get soft on me, Prince. You've got to. You're Francis Drake. I'm gonna give you that letter of mark. I'm gonna give you. I love this hell. We'll call John. I'm gonna call Johnson this afternoon. Recall his office. Say, hey, can you issue a letter of mark? Can you issue the speaker of the House a letter of mark to Eric Princeton. We'll be turning around vessels and taking the oil and stopping the CCP and shutting down molas.
Chris Acavella
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Steve Bannon
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4417: No Rule Of Law In The Jungle While Dealing With Russia
Release Date: April 16, 2025
In Episode 4417 of Bannon's War Room, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, the discussion centers on the challenges of enforcing the rule of law when dealing with adversarial nations, particularly Russia and China. The episode features insightful dialogues with key figures such as Erik Prince and Chris Acavella, delving into economic sanctions, intellectual property theft, and strategic military considerations.
Timestamp: 00:51 – 02:13
The episode kicks off with Steve Bannon raising concerns about the implications of delisting Chinese companies involved in espionage and improper accounting practices. He questions the potential fallout on U.S. pension funds tied to these companies.
Steve Bannon: "What’s going to happen if we delist these companies and they drop in value by 50%, and then people's pension funds have gone down?" (01:19)
Erik Prince: "We’re going to cut off the flow of capital to an adversary. We cannot continue to fund our own destruction." (01:08)
Erik Prince emphasizes the necessity of severing financial ties with adversarial nations to prevent economic self-destruction. He advocates for reinvesting funds into compliant U.S. companies that stimulate economic growth and job creation, aligning with President Trump's policies to reorganize the international economic order.
Timestamp: 02:13 – 07:22
The conversation shifts to the strategic importance of controlling advanced technologies that could enhance military capabilities of adversaries. Bannon discusses the potential escalation involved in imposing additional government licensing on critical components like Nvidia's GPUs.
Steve Bannon: "How escalatory in your opinion is putting additional licensing on the Nvidia RTX 20 chip?" (02:30)
Erik Prince: "Those chips will allow our enemy to build a military capable of rivaling us. It’s necessary to impose sanctions on their quantum computing capabilities and semiconductors." (02:58)
Chris Acavella: "The next strategic offset is at the AI edge. Nvidia servers are the brain matter of AI. Cutting them off from China is appropriate." (07:22)
The panel underscores the strategic necessity of restricting access to advanced technologies that could empower adversaries militarily and economically. By controlling the flow of such technology, the U.S. aims to maintain its technological and military supremacy.
Timestamp: 04:26 – 07:22
Drawing parallels to historical events, Bannon illustrates the long-term strategic encroachment by China, particularly in critical industries like rare earth elements and ball bearings.
Steve Bannon: "They’ve planned on this for 20, 25 years. They’ve cut us off from rare earths and ball bearings." (04:51)
Chris Acavella: "Precision strike technology has become pervasive and cheap. The next competitive edge is in AI." (05:48)
The discussion highlights China’s strategic planning to undermine U.S. industrial capabilities over decades. By cutting off critical materials and technologies, China aims to weaken the U.S. economic and military infrastructure, necessitating robust countermeasures.
Timestamp: 06:03 – 08:29
Bannon addresses the issue of intellectual property theft, comparing China's actions to historical instances like Japan's oil embargo in 1941.
Steve Bannon: "The $30 trillion of intellectual property that we either gave or the Chinese stole was the reason the Russians had the nuke." (06:16)
Chris Acavella: "They stole it. The Chinese are actively trying to steal from leading companies." (07:22)
The panel discusses how the theft of intellectual property has significantly bolstered China’s technological and military advancements. This economic warfare necessitates stringent measures to protect American innovations and maintain global economic leadership.
Timestamp: 10:05 – 17:13
Bannon introduces a controversial proposal to issue letters of marque, effectively legalizing privateering against Iranian vessels accused of supporting adversarial activities.
Steve Bannon: "You need a letter of marque. It’s like the British Empire’s privateers." (11:20)
Chris Acavella: "Privateers can seize Iranian vessels under their flag to enforce judgments without direct naval involvement." (10:15)
Erik Prince: "As the Francis Drake of America, I support issuing letters of marque to stop Iranian activities." (11:43)
This proposal aims to empower private entities like Prince’s Amer Securities to enforce economic sanctions and disrupt Iran’s ability to monetize its resources. By leveraging privateers, the U.S. can impose economic pressure without overextending military resources.
Timestamp: 24:38 – 32:37
The discussion shifts to domestic policies, specifically mass deportations, highlighting the administrative challenges and proposed solutions to handle the large number of individuals without final deportation orders.
Steve Bannon: "You're actually proposing mass deportations, but DHS doesn't have the infrastructure." (24:58)
Chris Acavella: "We need to maximize resources by involving local sheriffs and building holding camps near airfields for efficient processing." (31:00)
The panel debates the feasibility of mass deportations, emphasizing the need for scalable solutions involving local authorities and private sector partnerships to address illegal immigration effectively.
Timestamp: 33:03 – 43:00
Leo Smirnoff shares his experience as an American business owner whose operations in Russia were seized by government-backed gangsters amid geopolitical tensions.
Leo Smirnoff: "I built my business in Russia, but now the Russian government is expropriating it due to the war." (34:12)
Steve Bannon: "The Kremlin is run by thugs. Negotiating with them is futile." (36:45)
The episode highlights the vulnerability of American businesses operating abroad, advocating for stronger protections and retaliatory measures against nations that undermine foreign investments. Bannon underscores the need for President Trump to prioritize American business interests globally.
Timestamp: 46:23 – 48:32
In the closing segments, the panel reiterates the importance of economic independence and technological supremacy. They advocate for measures such as integrating U.S. energy technologies with Russia to reduce Chinese influence and emphasize the strategic necessity of cutting off adversarial nations from critical resources.
Steve Bannon: "President Trump is the kind of leader who can stand up to the Chinese Communist Party and the Russians." (46:35)
Chris Acavella: "Energy independence is key. Empowering U.S. drillers and frackers has made us energy independent, a model that needs to be applied globally to weaken adversaries." (47:21)
The episode concludes with a call to action for strategic economic policies and technological controls to safeguard national interests and maintain global dominance.
Steve Bannon (01:19): "Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved."
Erik Prince (02:58): "Those chips are going to allow our enemy to build up a military that’s capable of rivaling us, and we cannot have that."
Chris Acavella (07:22): "The next strategic offset, the next real competition is at the AI edge. And so the Nvidia Servers processing units are effectively the brain matter of that AI."
Steve Bannon (24:58): "You're actually proposing mass deportations because right now DHS doesn't have the infrastructure."
Leo Smirnoff (34:12): "American businesses should be the priority. Not even the Ukrainian border."
Economic Deterrence: Severing financial ties with adversarial nations like China is crucial to prevent economic and military advancements that threaten U.S. interests.
Technological Control: Restricting access to advanced technologies is essential to maintain military supremacy and prevent adversaries from bridging the technological gap.
Private Sector Empowerment: Leveraging private entities through mechanisms like letters of marque can enhance economic sanctions and disrupt hostile nations' financial capabilities without overburdening military resources.
Protection of American Business: Strengthening support and protection for American businesses abroad is vital to prevent expropriation and ensure globalization works in favor of U.S. interests.
Strategic Immigration Policies: Addressing illegal immigration requires scalable solutions involving local authorities and private sector partnerships to effectively manage deportations and uphold national security.
Energy Independence: Promoting U.S. energy independence through supporting domestic drillers and frackers reduces reliance on adversarial nations and strengthens economic resilience.
Episode 4417 of Bannon's War Room presents a robust discussion on the complexities of enforcing the rule of law in the face of powerful adversaries like Russia and China. Through strategic economic policies, technological controls, and protected support for American businesses, the panel advocates for measures to secure national interests and maintain global leadership. Notably, the episode emphasizes the importance of proactive and innovative approaches to address both international and domestic challenges.