
Episode 4424: The New York Times Fears The New Normal ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Have a great weekend.
Steve
Have a beautiful Easter Sunday.
Stephen K. Bannon
Talk to you Monday.
Steve
Steve, thank you. Thank you, sir. It's Good Friday. Thank you for being here for our afternoon early evening Show in the second hour, Patrick K. O'Donnell is going to join me and it's going to be very, very special. This is not just good Good Friday, the most solemn day in the calendar of the Christian and Catholic Church in the Orthodox Christian church. It's also the eve of the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, which will be doing Lexington and Concord on the morning show tomorrow morning or Saturday show and tying it to what events are happening now and where you come in. This audience comes in both in the history of what happened in our country back then and people are taking action. And what's going on today. Tonight is the 250th anniversary of the ride of Paul Revere, the Midnight Ride. And Patrick K. O'Donnell will be joining us and giving all the context and history. You'll want to stick around for that because it's very special as only Patrick K. O'Donnell can do. We've got an incredible call open, just amazing day for news on every different vertical. Let's go ahead and play it. Natalie Warren is going to join me on the other side.
Marco Rubio
Sir, when are we going to see accountability and consequences for sanctuary state and local officials that are violating a USC 1324 by harboring legal aliens, as well as isn't it kind of bizarre that Chris Van Hollen tried to smuggle and facilitate reentry of this illegal alien also in violation of AUSC 13? We also haven't heard any stories about the Logan act this time around for whatever reason. So the It's a great question.
Steve
Thank you.
Marco Rubio
An analogy question. I don't get a lot of questions around here where people are citing the Immigration Nationality Act. So that's great. You're exactly right that the sanctuary cities are engaged in multiple criminal violations, harboring, smuggling, inducing obstructing justice, obstructing official proceedings and many other crimes. And this is something that the Department of Justice is taking a very hard look at. I will just say that it is my view, the view of this administration, that these cities are engaged in systemic criminal violations and that they are engaged in a scheme to nullify and obstruct the duly enacted laws of the United States of America. And I would again note, when you talk about morality, talking about decency, sanctuary cities shield criminal illegal aliens from removal. We repeatedly go into communities and arrest illegal aliens who were previously in custody that they refused to turn over, that were sent back onto the street, that have subsequently raped or abused a child. I just want you to think about that for a second. You have sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, like Boston, like Chicago, where illegal aliens will be booked, arrested, placed into city or state custody, charged with serious crimes. ICE will ask them to be turned over for deportation. They will willfully release them back onto the street, obstructing federal law enforcement, doing so at a time and place of their choosing, making sure that we don't know where and when they will be set free. And then those illegal aliens will go out and take someone's son or someone's daughter and abuse and rape them.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
So we came here yesterday to sort of begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might take to end the war, to try to figure out very soon. And I'm talking about a matter of days, not a matter of whether or not this is the war that can be ended. If it can, we're prepared to do whatever we can to facilitate that and make sure that it happens, that it ends in a durable and just way. If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he's going to say, well, we're done. You know, we'll do what we can on the margins. We'll be ready to help whenever you're ready to have peace. But we're not going to continue with this endeavor for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable in the. Over the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's hot, then we'll have to. We have other priorities to focus on as well.
Steve
If for some reason one of the two parties makes it very difficult, we're just going to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass. But hopefully we won't have to do that. And Marco is right in saying it. We're getting. We want to see it end.
Natalie Winters
So, diplomatically speaking, what do you make of this tactic of threatening to just move on from the peace talks?
Steve
Alex?
Marco Rubio
It's hard to say. I mean, you never know whether they're bluffing, whether they're just mistaken, whether they don't really care. The language is very imprecise.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
I mean, I don't know exactly what.
Marco Rubio
Moving on means, does that mean we're not going to be a party to the peace talks? Does that mean we're not going to give aid to Ukraine anymore? It's really unclear. And yes, as you mentioned, President Trump famously said he would end the war in 24 hours. Now they're finding it's a lot more complex than they thought. Now, by the way, they did, I saw just moments ago, they announced that they signed a memorandum of understanding with Ukraine about access to rare earth minerals and some mutual Ukrainian an American fund for reconstruction in Ukraine, which is, which is a good thing.
Steve
Some breaking news. NBC News has learned the acting commissioner.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Of the irs, Gary Shapley, is being.
Steve
Removed amid a power struggle at the highest levels of the White House. Let's go to NBC's Yamiche Alcindor, who's covering this story for us. Yamiche, what's happening here?
Natalie Winters
What can you tell us?
Yamiche Alcindor
What we know is that the acting head of the irs, as you said, is being replaced by the treasury secretary because he believes the treasury secretary believes that he was installed the acting IRS secretary was installed behind his back essentially because Elon Musk wanted him there. He complained the treasury secretary, Scott Bessant, to President Trump saying that he did not want that acting IRS secretary to be there, Iraq commissioner be there. And as a result, his replacement is going to be coming in. He's the deputy treasury secretary. This is all really in some ways feeling like maybe inside baseball. The big bottom line here is that you have a power struggle between Elon Musk and an agency head. And this is really coming as we know that the that Elon Musk has really had issues with a number of agency heads, including Marco Rubio at the secretary of state and other heads of agencies. That's him. And the Department of Government Efficiency have essentially tried to take over roles and taken over decisions that agency heads are making. Now the White House is out with a statement that they provided to the New York Times. That statement says in part from Caroline, from Caroline Levitt. She said in part it's no secret. President Trump has put together a team of people who are incredibly passionate about the issues impacting our country. Disagreements are no more part of any healthy policy process. And ultimately every mo everyone knows they serve at the pleasure of the president. So really interesting that the White House in some ways is actually acknowledging that this was a power struggle. I mean, it shows you that there's going to be in some ways more to come of this as Elon Musk and Doge continue to make decisions and as agency heads really try to wrestle back some of that power. ALEX.
Steve
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it.
Mike Lindell
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.
Steve
In the world to stop that, but.
Mike Lindell
You'Re not going to stop it.
Steve
It's going to happen.
Marco Rubio
And where do people like that go.
Steve
To share the big lie?
Marco Rubio
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Mike Lindell
I wish that any of these people.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
People had a conscience.
Mike Lindell
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Steve
Friday, the 18th of April in the year of our Lord 2025. Another furious news day on many huge developing stories and new stories, as I said with Eric Bolling, by the way. So it's the 250th anniversary this evening of the historic riot of Paul Revere to warn the colonists about the impending military action of the British Expeditionary force. Tomorrow's the 250th anniversary of the shot heard around the world, both at Lexington Common and then later at Concord Bridge. And we will be doing both PATRICK Hayne, Donald and I break it all down later at on the 6 o'clock hour. And then I will be on tomorrow with other guests to break things down and to be live and do some of the ceremony, some of the commemoration. MARCO Rubio a couple things before we get Natalie on. MARCO RUBIO so a big development coming out of with everything else going on and now engaged in this war, this economic war with the Chinese Communist Party folks understand something. We're really have embargoed everything with the terrorists where they are. We've embargoed essentially everything coming from China that is a big deal. And the rest that's going on working on the Russian rapport, etc, this kind of peace deal or ceasefire, whatever you want to call it, in around the Ukraine. They've kind of got I think, a general sense of at least what the Russians want and surely what the Ukrainians want. I just don't think that there's enough urgency on at least the Ukrainian side to want to bring this thing to a head. And I think Secretary Rubio is justified and I can tell you he's not kidding around because before he would say that he ran that by the president United States I Think there's limited, very limited patience for this. And I think that if people don't want to move on, the United States is going to move on and there's going to be no more money, no more arms, zero, and let Europe have at it. If the Europeans are prepared to commit and put up that kind of, those kind of resources and potential troops, then, you know, this thing could drag on. But I can tell you the French don't have the money, nor the political will, nor the people in France have the interest. Same thing in the United Kingdom. Each one of those are in a pretty bad financial shape after years over borrowing. They all, I think, what could potentially have sovereign debt crises. Their people right now are scrambling about social service in France, they're, they're at each other's throat about where these cuts are going to come from. So the Ukrainians, as we've said on the show, forever and ever, unless, unless the Americans are prepared to just give unlimited resources. And remember, it's been up to $60 billion a year. I think President Trump says we're in 350. We calculate 250. The worst case, I think, is 175 to 180. I think even Zelensky said, hey, I see it's supposedly 175. I only got 60 of it. If that's cut off, I don't think with the big beautiful bill and what's happening on the budget side, and here they're arguing about tax increases. And look, I don't want to increase taxes of people just to increase them, but the upper bracket is going to have to go to 40% to somehow be part of filling this gap, this massive gap on, I don't know, war rooms, calling for a two and a half trillion dollar deficit this fiscal year. 2.5 trillion. Given where I think tax revenue is coming in and expenses are so no more 60 billion. I'm not sure he could get 6 billion, 5 billion. We would fight, we would fight tooth and nail just to make sure they got zero reality. He's got us. Uncle Sugar is gone. The President, Trump's attitude and his cut. And this is why if Karl Rove, the thing about Ezra Klein, Karl Rove and David Brooks, all part of the establishment. One's a little more progressive, just a little bit more. Brooks and Rove are epitomes of the conservative. You've seen David Brooks on TV for years. You've seen Karl Rove all the time since Bush 43. They're breaking. Ezra Klein calls it what he called this morning. We did the cold open with Ezra Klein? It's the crisis is here. The crisis is here. David Brooks essentially calling people to go to the streets that now you have to, we have to make our move. We have to shut this thing down. And Karl Rove sitting there going, it's going to end badly. People are tired of Trump already within 100 days. What they're tired of, Carl, is phony Republicans like you that yammered for tax cuts for the wealthy ran up $9 trillion in two wars that you guys had as wars of choice. Yes, the Afghanistan war was a war of choice. You could have gone hunt, you could have gone hunted down Osama bin Laden and eradicate the Taliban. The paramilitary guys didn't had turned over 30 days to stay there for the democracy project, to stay in Iraq for the democracy project. $9 trillion, 10,000 dead, 40 or 50,000 wounded. And I'm not counting the contractors, the tage gills of the world that they got off the payroll and put on contracts. Bush, the guy you work for, is the worst president in the history of this country. And I include James Buchanan in that category. The worst. So you're tired of it. We don't give a damn what you're tired of because, bro, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're just getting revved up. President Trump's on a roll right now, taking them all on, hammering down every vertical in his. Folks love it. So if you think it's going to end badly, fine. Everybody's getting a free country. Get an opinion. But President Trump not going to back off. He doesn't care what Rupert Murdoch has say. Shows you about Fox and the Wall street journal. They're 100% against populist nationalism and one of the reasons is their heads are blowing up. Because guess what, old man Murdoch, you got a 40% tax rate coming at you, bro. Suck on that. Grover Norcrest, Karl Rove, I think it's going to end badly. And I'm not so sure it's for us. There's a new day dawning in the United States of America next right here in the war room in America's heart.
Mike Lindell
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Steve
Can you put up the by the way, I'm get to the. I'm gonna get in a little while to the to the irs. Elon Musk having a quite bad run here recently. I think it's going to get a little worse. And you saw this, this story. The IRS is a huge story, as we say, and I'll give you the underpinnings of it in a moment. Natalie Winters, you're here. You also want to come and Karl Rove. This is what I love. In fact, I put up on Getter in the early morning hours. I think of this morning when Brooks thing came out that, you know, we done broke. We done broke David Brooks real good. He's a broken man. He's calling for a national mass movement of law firms, university professors, the credential class, because he says Trump is, you know, is in a comprehensive power move to destroy it all, every institution that he holds a dear. Walk me through your thoughts on that. You've also got a, he's tucked in there a younger generation also in this. What do you think about David Brooks?
Natalie Winters
Well, I guess the Trump derangement syndrome truly has metastasized. But I think that this piece is quite compelling for a lot of reasons because I think it affirms a lot of what we've been discussing here in the war room, not just the stage four meltdowns, the color revolution theory, the importance of civil uprising protests, and in some cases very violent protests at that. But if you look at the key researcher that he cites throughout this piece, making sort of the argument as to why they need to engage in this national civic uprising. By the way, pay attention to the words that they use because it used to be mass demonstrations, it used to be nonviolent protests. It used to be peaceful protests. Now they're calling for a civil uprising. Just put that one in the book. But they're citing Erica Chenoweth and people may recall, what was it two weeks ago, the story that we broke. It gained, I think, tens of millions of views across platforms about, how you guessed it, Harvard, in conjunction with USAID and the State Department, were working to fund these new resistance labs in concordance with Democratic members of Congress, the same ones that I guess are back channeling with Democratic ags. So it just sort of shows you that it's the same pattern recognition whereby it's the same people who, when you really start to peel the layers back, are also the same people who for the last four years have been intricately linked and involved in the lawfare against President Trump and have been on sort of the receiving end of what I would really call the global empire. Empire, at least the construct of it in the minds of people like David Brooks. And frankly, Steve, when I was reading this article talking about the sort of divide between what Trumpism seeks to oppose or tear down, which is the established world order, the sort of neoliberal, neocon, you know, rules based international order that they're talking about, which they want to defend, which I think the fact that War Room is ascendant in viewership in the New York Times and the Washington Post are failing, shows you whose lived experience, whose lived reality is actually more true and more prevalent. But I think the most interesting point that I would make is that I see very similar parallels to, I think, how these legacy media outlets covered the rise of China. What do I mean by that? It was Joe Biden, right, who wrote a very notorious op ed in 2008 saying that the rise of China is great for the United States, it's great for the American people. But what it really comes down to, and I think you see this recurring theme particularly poignant in this David Brooks piece. The concept or the construct of the version of American people that they're talking about is not people like me. It's not people like you. It's not our audience. It's a very, you know, small beltway elite, the group who is on the receiving end not just of the USAID contracts that's perhaps too on the nose, but just of this globalist ruling class. And they're doing the same propaganda where they're sort of doing this limited hangout version. But I just think our audience should really, really be paying attention to the sort of analytical aspect of it, this idea that they're now calling for an uprising on the heels of a bunch of violent protests that frankly didn't do anything and didn't really work. So they're stuck in a corner, you know, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't know what to do, and they're lashing out.
Steve
How important is it, you think, that these public intellectuals like Karl Rove and David Brooks are now starting to basically be shattered, look like they're having nervous breakdowns, but also calling for, you know, Carl Rosenau. He's saying, hey, this is going to end badly for Trump. So he's implying something like this, but that David Brooks actually uses the line that we need a mass mobilization effort of all these institutions, from law firms to universities to all of it against Trump.
Natalie Winters
Well, I don't know if I would call these people public intellectuals, maybe pseudo intellectuals at that. There are, of course, some people on the left and establishment right who I at least respect intellectually. I don't know if Karl Rove is necessarily one of those, but I think you can sort of link it to what you're seeing going on in the White House, right, in terms of this whole new media initiative and just the absolute rejection, the apoplectic nature of sort of the establishment, credentialed institutional class that sits in there, that is really upset at my face being there at a bunch of other outlets. I mean, put it this way, they will give more nuance and will probably give a warmer welcome to Ms. 13 and convicted wife beaters and gang members and illegal aliens than they will new media, than they will you, than they will our audience. Right?
Yamiche Alcindor
It's.
Natalie Winters
This is the same group of people, right? We can go after the media angle because I think that's sort of the front row, the flank, the Praetorian guard. But these are the same, same people who, for what, how long, told the American people that we have to accept being jammed down our throats, tens of millions of legal and illegal aliens replacing us, taking our jobs. We have to train their replacements. And now all of a sudden, these pseudo intellectuals get a little bit of competition because now it is actually, shall we say, free and fair trade in the sense that there's no censorship. All of those guardrails have been stripped off. Now, no one cares what they have to say because they've always been wrong. They've just rested upon this global censorship complex, the news guards of the world, to buttress their ideas. They're beyond and above reproach. That's why they hide behind These foreign funded think tanks, but now that they actually have competition, that they have shows like War Room, right, the equivalent of importing an H1B visa, they actually can't hang, they don't like it. And that's what they've been doing to the American, American people for how long? For years. And they say that we're nativists and we're xenophobes for daring to criticize it so they can try all they want to terraform and manipulate the American populace into accepting their ideas. But the difference is that people will show up and support President Trump. People show up and listen to War Room voluntarily. They don't need to be paid protesters, they don't need to be whipped up with usaid, State Department for funded propaganda to actually believe something. And now that the core of it is that, now that that entire censorship ecosystem and really the globalist superstructure and power structure to its core, which people like Mike Benz have done wonderful work exposing, now that the wheels are spinning off that these people, it is a sink or swim moment. And I think that they're realizing that they have been living on borrowed time for a very, very long time because their ideas are extremely unpopular. And without the censorship, no one cares what you have to say, Karl Rove. And if it weren't for idiots like you, I probably wouldn't have been so incentivized at age, what, 19 to get involved in all of this. Because the truth is actually not that hard to share if you aren't being paid by a bunch of globalist, you know, neo Marxist corporations.
Steve
What do you think about the senator from Maryland going down and having a margarita with someone and we're gonna have Michael Patrick Leahy up in a little while about a guy that obviously was a child trafficker, or I shouldn't say child trafficker. Human trafficker, ma'am.
Natalie Winters
Well, look, I think Kilmar Garcia would probably get a warmer welcome in the White House briefing room or the New York Times offices or the Washington Post offices than I would, and I'm not even kidding when I say that. And apparently Democratic senators are willing to fly down. And by the way, the best part of it, Steve, Senator Van Hollen. I don't really even want to call him a senator anymore because I don't really think he represents the United States. But Van Hollen posts the picture, not including the margaritas. It was Bukele who posted the pictures, including the margaritas. But I think the most interesting takeaway from that meeting. I'm going to read you the direct quote, because it's almost incomprehensible. You can't even believe these people. Quote, he said he's sad every day. That was Senator Van Hollen's big takeaway. Punchy quote from meeting with the beloved Kilmar Garcia down in El Salvador. Do you know who else is sad every day? Patty Morin, whose daughter was killed, brutally raped by a member of the same gang that this animal was a part of. I don't hear him putting out statements for her. It's absolutely despicable. I mean, I know at the dnc, right, Steve, these people had the American flags and at least pretended they have some element of performative patriotism. But the party that has gone from at least trying to pretend like they maybe don't hate America, though we know deep down they do, they're now flying down to meet with illegal aliens who are part of criminal organizations that have killed countless Americans. So spare me the American flags, spare me the protests, spare me the idea that you guys care about sovereignty. The Democratic Party, I mean this is mainstream. It's treasonous. And good luck running on it in the midterms. But that's the headline that they're upset that Kilmar Garcia is traumatized in C cut. Yeah, that's the frickin point.
Steve
Sad. Natalie, good to have you back. Social media, ma'am. Where do people follow you over the weekend, over the Easter weekend?
Natalie Winters
Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. Thank you for having me.
Steve
Good to have you back, Natalie. Natalie G. Winters on fire as usual. Michael Patrick Leahy, we're going to try to get up. Michael Patrick Leahy is breaking some incredible news out in Tennessee about this individual that is pretty shocking. What the FBI knew and other people knew. We haven't spent a lot of time on this. Heaven want to waste time on it. But now it's pretty evident that the Democrats are going to make this a huge point if they want to, if this is who they want to get in back of. We just want to make sure the United the folks out here in the country know exactly what's going on. Want to thank our sponsor, Birch Gold. Look, the capital markets are turbulent. The financial markets are turbulent. The economies are turbulent. President Trump's going through a massive reorganization of the global commercial relationships. That's a work in progress. You want to understand what the impact is going to be, go to birchgold.com and talk to Philip Patrick and his team. They will talk to you about why gold has been a hedge against times of financial instability for 5,000 years. A man's recorded history. Birch Gold document and talk to Philip Patrick and his team. We've got tons of free information to give you to make sure you make contact with them. Particularly now more than ever when things are a little choppy and gold is on the rise. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, we have sources all over the country and in Tennessee. And we learned and inquired of the Tennessee Highway Patrol about an incident we discovered. Here's the facts of the case. On the evening December 1, 2022, Kilmar Abrego Garcia. He's the El Salvador illegal immigrant deported to El Salvador in March. He was driving a 2001 Chevy Suburban with eight other individuals inside in Tennessee on I40 just west of Nashville in Putnam County. He was observed by the Tennessee Highway Patrol of speeding and not maintaining his lane. So they pulled him over. When they pulled him over, they asked him to produce his driver's license. He produced an expired temporary driver's license from Maryland, which tells you that he's an illegal alien. So the highway patrol officer went into his car, entered the data into a computerized system called the ncic. That's the National Crime Information Database. It goes right to the Terrorist Assessment center in Virginia. And they sent back a code. And the code was. And I got a lot of this from talking to Todd Bensman about how this works. Hey, this guy is on one of our lists. You need to get some information from him. And they went in, they talked to him they Talked to the 8th individuals there who apparently were unable to speak English very well and who they listed their.
Steve
Of course they don't speak English very well. They're being. They're being trafficked. It's human trafficking. They're not going to speak English. Come on, dude.
Michael Patrick Leahy
He told them, by the way, Garcia told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer he was transporting them from Texas to Maryland for the purpose, he told them of working for his boss, a construction business owner who purportedly owned the vehicle they were driving it. So this caught the attention of the terrorist center. They told the THP officer, take pictures of everybody and everything there. After that, the FBI, after an hour and 45 minutes, stop the FBI. And we've confirmed this. Now, we reported from a source on Tuesday, but late last night, the Tennessee Highway Patrol confirmed with us that the FBI told them to release Kilmar Abrego Garcia even though the officer there suspected him of human trafficking. He filed a, what's called a dispatch report which Homeland Security got a few days later. And they said, oh, yes, this is a problem. And they put him on another list to watch. But what's terrible about this is the FBI told the Tennessee Highway Patrol officer, hey, the guy's been speeding. He's driving without a tick, without a license. Those are misdemeanors. What they should have done is they should have taken him to a holding cell right away, taken all the eight individuals there, got their information, got an interviewer and find out who they were, where they were from and what really was going on. But the FBI ordered them to be released. And an hour and 45 minutes later, they were released.
Steve
Hold, hang on, hang on. I want to go through the logic. Why would the FBI override basic law enforcement procedures in immigration service and ICE procedures and border patrol procedures? Why in a billion years would they sit there and say, let these guys go. What is the logic of that? What is the FBI said about that?
Michael Patrick Leahy
There's no good logic. Now, remember the Tesla Highway Patrol who we pressured to confirm the story, finally did late last night? They called it was they were ordered by the Biden era FBI and that they were simply following a quote, standard protocol. Now that's a bizarre protocol, I would say when these, this individual had violated two laws in the state of Tennessee and was suspected of human trafficking and put all the facts together. They can't speak English, they can't write, they had the same address as he had in Maryland and they had no luggage. I mean, come on, it sounds like human trafficking. And he wrote that right in his report. But the protocol at that time for the Tennessee Highway Patrol was to, you know, basically bow down to the order from the FBI. Big mistake all around, I think. And it leads to, why did the FBI tell test the Highway Patrol to let him go when they suspected him of human trafficking? Now, I talked to Todd Benzeman, our friend, about this, and he said, well, he thinks the protocol was, well, you don't want to let them know that they're on some list. Well, that's ridiculous. There was a purported potential human trafficking crime going on right there, and they let it happen.
Steve
Unbelievable. Do you know, okay, what's the state of play of this right now? Tennessee Highway Patrol is just kicking it up to the FBI. We had no control. They made a call, which is. I'm not sure that overrides it, but let's assume for purposes conversation, it does. Where does it stand now?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, now we've got public records requests going to both the FBI in Washington and the Tennessee Highway Patrol. They took pictures there. They have body cam images right there. They should have the names and addresses of all the passengers. They should have the registration of the owner of that vehicle. We want to know, Steve, who are these eight individuals that were being transported from Maryland, from Texas to Maryland? Where are they now? Are they alive? Were any of them women? We don't know.
Steve
No. This is unbelievable. Can you believe a US Senator went down, is coddling this guy, got him out of jail and went and had margaritas with him down in El Salvador, sir.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Well, you know, Steve, the Democrats have long been on the 20 side of 8020 issues. And I think Senator Van Hollen is trying to drive that down to a 95.5 issue. And I think he'd probably accomplish that this weekend over. Over the past couple of days.
Steve
Listen, I'm fine. If this is who they want to defend, if they want to defend MS.13 and the Venezuelan gang that President Trump is commander chief trying to get out of the country to save women from being tortured, raped and murdered. Hey, we'll take that. Right. It just. The Democratic Party is now in the fever swamps, particularly a guy like this. This guy's not defendable. That was clearly human trafficking. They were not out for just a spin down to the Dairy Queen. They're going from Texas to Maryland with eight folks packed into a vehicle with no luggage, phony IDs. That's what we got to find out. This one's got to be drilled down. The Democrats want to rally around this one. We ought to get all the facts and make sure that when they do the embrace, they're embracing the whole cactus plant. It's not something we want to cover, but if we got to, we'll do it. And we'll get the Michael Patrick Leahy's who will go get the receipts on this. All the Democrats sitting there. You think this guy's, you know, Vasco da Gama or something? Some national hero that needs to be protected? He's a scumbag criminal with a murderous criminal gang. Right? And all they do is make excuse. Well, that's not a gang ball cap. That's a different year. The Chicago Bulls or a different mode of hat. Those, those tattoos up his neck are not really, you know, it's every excuse. And Von Holland, he goes down there and makes a big deal about it. At the same time, the trial's going on of the. Of the woman, the mother of five children, five motherless children right now, who is tortured, raped, and murdered in the most brutal fashion possible. That her mom. Since nobody will cover it, the President United States has to invite her to come to the White House briefing room, which she tells the nation. And they still will not ask a question. They sat there and heard it. This is what scumbags they are. They just don't want to, like, pretend it doesn't exist. They would not raise their hand. The one question was jumping on Caroline Levitt about something about the president of this situation. We ought to hit him with both barrels on this thing.
Mike Lindell
If they want to own this guy, own him.
Steve
But I gotta tell you, the Leahys of the world are gonna get all the facts and they're gonna rub your nose in it every day. So if you want to do it, the Democrats want to do it. Aoc, you guys want to do it? Have at it. This is your boy.
Mike Lindell
Fine, you got him.
Steve
And we'll. We'll show the nation what he is. Cause down in Tennessee, he was trafficking human beings, okay? Full stop. And the FBI had to insert themselves. This is how. Yo, Cash, my man. Pam Bondi. Yo, when are we going to get an investigation of this? Why isn't Michael Patrick Leahy having to do all this? Why is my York is not in cuffs right now?
Mike Lindell
They invaded our country.
Steve
Somebody's got to step up to the plate. I don't need a sharply worded letter, and I don't need a congressional investigation. I need a good old fashioned grand jury. Let's start rolling some evidence in there and then start taking people to trial and lock them up.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Michael, Patrick, we've asked, we've heard nothing from the FBI on this. And it seems obvious that this. All of the circumstances here point to human trafficking. I mean, you have to be pretty much a dullard or a dishonest person to think anything otherwise. And yet the FBI ordered the Tennessee Highway Patrol to allow him to go without any. Any stop, any cite, any citation, any warning. It's very, very troublesome. And the other question is how often did this happen?
Steve
Yeah. All the time. Note to cash. Let's break it up, okay? We don't need the counterterrorism photos or how great they are. Let's break it up. Let's break it up into a million little pieces. Put the. Put the. Put the law enforcement guys with the U.S. attorney somehow in the U.S. marshals figure out with the counterterrorism what you do with the rest of the thing. Take the building. Let's go to the jackhammers. Let's take the jackhammers and take it down and salt the earth around it so nothing else could ever be there. Give them a Carthaginian piece and let's put a little plaque. Once upon a time, a very ugly building housed very bad people that did very terrible things to the greatest country on earth. Full stop. That's all the plaque's got to say.
Michael Patrick Leahy
Michael Patrick Leahy.
Steve
Where they go for your social media, Sir?
Michael Patrick Leahy
Go to Tennessee Star.com Tennessee Star.com on. On X. I'm Michael P. Leahy. We should have the body cam video from this December 1st stop within three days. If the Tennessee Highway Patrol is playing. Playing it right.
Steve
Okay, sir. Well, thank you. At least they're.
Yamiche Alcindor
They're.
Steve
They're more responsive than anybody else.
Mike Lindell
Human trafficking.
Steve
Human trafficking. That's who they're defending. That's who they're flying down to. Have a margarita with lovely short break.
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Steve
Yes.
Mike Lindell
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Steve
Hell, you want to be the when.
Mike Lindell
He in 2012, he just gave a dead wrong answer. Russia was not the biggest geostrategic threat in 2012. Wasn't even close. It was China and radical Islam.
Steve
Right?
Mike Lindell
Russia is just kind of a backwater at the time. And this is what the problem with the country is, that the elites in this country, it's not just the greedy and venal, they're dumb. Okay? They're dumb. And we've been led by dumb people and stupid people and people that didn't want to put it on the line. And that's why I'm so proud of MAGA and I'm so proud of the anti ccp. Remember, I'm the only civilian in history to ever be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party. Two minutes after Biden was was inaugurated, Matt Pottinger, Peter Navarro, Mike Pompeo, myself and those three were government officials. And I'm proud of that because I don't believe that the Chinese Communist Party is the legitimate government of Lao Beijing, of the Chinese people. And guess what? Lao Baijang agrees with me. So look, you separate. You separate Trump from the gop.
Steve
That's why I'm asking.
Mike Lindell
I know how you feel about the Dems. How do you feel about the gop? The GOP did nothing. The gop, the same neoliberal neocons invade everywhere and have huge tax cuts for the wealthy. This is what Trump brought to the table. This is when 14 when I see Trump there, he's against all these other GOP politicians. He talked in another nomenclature, he talked in another vernacular. People lean Forward. This is not the traditional thing. That's very thin, without substance. Trump was talking about substance and he wasn't a, he's not a polished politician. He wasn't a politician at all. But people leaned into it. And that's the populism that we have brought to the Republican Party and took over the Republican Party. But I'll tell you, most elected officials behind closed doors are not pro Trump and they're certainly not pro our policies. This is why heads have exploded the last couple of days, including your good buddy Sean Hannity, whose head blown up the most about we are going to raise taxes on the wealthy. The tax bill that's there is being worked on right now does not, does not extend the tax cuts to the upper bracket. It has a snapback. It goes from 37 back to probably 40% for the upper bracket and maybe even something else for people that are millionaires. And Sean Hannity is having a total meltdown right now because that's not traditional Republican policies. This is what President Trump and his economic populism, this economic nationalism has brought into the Republican Party. And this is why we have people who are Democrats and independents, including so many young African Americans are listening to Trump finally, because he's talking in a different nomenclature and his policies are different.
Steve
Okay, I was invited on and did the Chris Cuomo podcast this week, came out yesterday. And also Stephen A. Smith, which came out today. Both of them getting a lot of traffic. Grace and Mo are going to make sure that we get it to the audience so you guys can watch it at your viewing pleasure. But they were, I thought they were good interviews, interesting questions and two interesting guys. So we get into a lot of different stuff and both of them are long. I think one's an hour and a half or one's an hour and the other's 45 minutes something. So there's a lot there. Field of greens. How do we get up in the morning? Get that warpath coffee. Boom. Right. Let's get jacked up because we're pre dawn hours of getting the morning show ready with our crack staff here and of course a little later in the day with the guys in the men and women in Denver are in the Denver adjacent, I guess it is. Field of greens is also, it's the super, it's the organic, real organic superfood. You get all your fruits and vegetables and it's processed in a way that is totally natural. And this is totally organic. Not like the brands that you see so heavily advertised. That means you get more impact for your money, more natural impact. And I gotta tell you, you feel great with all your fruits and vegetables because you do this. You're good for the day. Of course, obviously, you should eat much more fruits and vegetables. But also, I get an energy boost. So I do it early in the morning between cups of Warpath coffee, and I get jacked up. Field of greens. Go to fieldofgreens.com, put in Bannon, you get a discount. So go check it out today. Field of greens. Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell. They're writing stories about my brother Mike Lindell. You're whining in a courtroom. You're crying in a courtroom. That's not the Mike Michael Lindell I know is tough as bootle. Brother, you've been in me. You've been in worse jams than this. What the hell? What the hell's going on, man? On.
Stephen K. Bannon
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Steve
On. On. On Easter weekend. He has risen. Come on. Come on, bro. Is the fake news? Is the fake news true or is the fake news fake?
Stephen K. Bannon
They are fake, everybody. But I will say this. I did not. The lawyer for the voting machine company did not say that my pillows were lumpy. So I was able to keep any. Any feelings I had down. Okay, that they. Yeah, it seems like, Steve, every time I show up to these hearings or these depositions, they pull stuff out of there and make stuff up. And you guys, I did. I was not weeping and begging for mercy or whatever they had going on out there. That was completely lies. I'm going to keep fighting to secure our elections. I don't care what they do to me out there. These. This law fair. I did tell the judge, this law fair is. They're trying to ruin me, your honor. And so they came out. Mike is. Mike is weeping. He said he's in ruins and they're going to do anything. They came first. They tried to say, look at. He's an angry Christian when we call his pillows lumpies. Now they're saying, you know, he's just crying. If you. If you. If you. And try and help your country, you too could be Mike Lindell in Cheers. It's all lies, Steve. All lies. We're here, we're standing. We're still fighting. And that's the way it's going to be.
Steve
Mike, to close out today, next hour is going to be incredible. Patrick O'Donnell is going to join me. And for an hour, we're going to break down the 250th anniversary of Paul Revere's ride. What it means for today. Also we're going to tee up the shot heard around the world at Lexington and Concord, which will take place tomorrow. Mike Lindell, can you please sell me a set of sheets, sir?
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Mike, have a blessed Easter and we'll talk to you on Monday. Sir. Short break, 250th commemoration next.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon`s War Room - Episode 4424: The New York Times Fears The New Normal
Release Date: April 18, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program delivering up-to-the-minute news analysis. Stephen K. Bannon engages with medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline operatives to provide insider insights on the latest developments.
The episode opens with Stephen K. Bannon and his co-host Steve setting the stage for a significant day. They highlight the convergence of Good Friday—the most solemn day in various Christian traditions—and the 250th anniversary of Paul Revere's Midnight Ride, an event pivotal in American Revolutionary history. This dual commemoration is intended to draw parallels between historical and current events, emphasizing national action and historical reflection.
Steve (00:04):
"Tonight is the 250th anniversary of the ride of Paul Revere, the Midnight Ride... This audience comes in both in the history of what happened in our country back then and people are taking action."
Guest: Senator Marco Rubio
Timestamp: [01:11] – [05:31]
Senator Rubio addresses the contentious issue of sanctuary cities, asserting that local officials are violating federal laws by harboring illegal immigrants. He criticizes political figures like Chris Van Hollen for facilitating the reentry of illegal aliens, which he argues undermines the rule of law.
Marco Rubio (01:43):
"Sanctuary cities are engaged in multiple criminal violations... they are engaged in a scheme to nullify and obstruct the duly enacted laws of the United States of America."
Rubio elaborates on the dangers posed by sanctuary cities, including the failure to deport individuals who commit serious crimes, thereby endangering communities.
Marco Rubio (03:19):
"Sanctuary cities shield criminal illegal aliens from removal... illegal aliens will go out and take someone's son or someone's daughter and abuse and rape them."
Guest: Patrick K. O'Donnell
Timestamp: [03:19] – [05:31]
Patrick K. O'Donnell discusses the ongoing war in Ukraine, emphasizing the urgency to determine whether peace can be achieved imminently. He highlights the administration's commitment to ending the conflict swiftly and justly, or otherwise focusing on other national priorities.
Patrick K. O'Donnell (03:19):
"We need to determine very quickly now... whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's not, we'll move on."
Marco Rubio (04:32):
"We're getting... we want to see it end."
Discussion:
The episode delves into the removal of Gary Shapley, the acting IRS commissioner, amid a power struggle influenced by Elon Musk. The White House attributes the removal to internal disagreements, particularly Musk's dissatisfaction with Shapley's appointment.
Yamiche Alcindor (05:46):
"Elon Musk has really had issues with a number of agency heads... The Department of Government Efficiency have essentially tried to take over roles and take over decisions that agency heads are making."
The hosts suggest that this incident reflects broader tensions between influential tech leaders and governmental agencies, indicating potential future conflicts.
Steve (07:21):
"This is the primal scream of a dying regime... the people have had a belly full of it."
Guest: Michael Patrick Leahy
Timestamp: [28:11] – [43:10]
Michael Patrick Leahy presents a detailed account of a human trafficking incident involving Kilmar Abrego Garcia in Tennessee. Garcia, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, was apprehended while transporting eight individuals under suspicious circumstances. Despite indicators of human trafficking, including expired licenses and lack of proper documentation, the FBI reportedly ordered Garcia's release.
Michael Patrick Leahy (32:09):
"On December 1, 2022, Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped for speeding and driving without a valid license... the FBI ordered them to be released despite suspicions of human trafficking."
Leahy criticizes the FBI's protocol, questioning the rationale behind releasing individuals suspected of transporting humans illegally. He calls for transparency and accountability, urging authorities to investigate the case thoroughly.
Steve (36:03):
"Why in a billion years would the FBI override basic law enforcement procedures?... There’s no good logic."
Guest: Natalie Winters
Timestamp: [14:59] – [24:16]
Natalie Winters critiques mainstream media and public intellectuals like David Brooks and Karl Rove, arguing that they perpetuate globalist agendas and undermine American sovereignty. She asserts that mainstream media fails to represent the interests of ordinary Americans, instead catering to elite classes and promoting harmful policies.
Natalie Winters (19:00):
"The concept of the version of American people that they're talking about is not people like me. It's a very small beltway elite... Their ideas are extremely unpopular."
Winters connects these critiques to broader themes of censorship and manipulation, suggesting that alternative platforms like War Room are essential for representing the true interests of the American populace.
Natalie Winters (22:02):
"They’ll give more nuance and will probably give a warmer welcome to individuals involved in criminal organizations than they will to our audience."
Guest: Michael Patrick Leahy
Timestamp: [28:11] – [43:10] (Continued)
Leahy provides further details on the investigative efforts surrounding the Tennessee case, highlighting the lack of response from the FBI and the urgency for a congressional investigation or grand jury involvement. He emphasizes the severity of the situation and the potential for continued human trafficking facilitated by federal inaction.
Michael Patrick Leahy (38:13):
"We want to know, Steve, who are these eight individuals that were being transported...? Are they alive? Were any of them women? We don't know."
Stephen K. Bannon wraps up the episode by teasing the next hour's focus on the 250th anniversary of Paul Revere's ride and its relevance to contemporary issues. He encourages listeners to stay engaged and participate in upcoming discussions and commemorations.
Steve (51:14):
"Next hour is going to be incredible. Patrick O'Donnell is going to join me... We'll break down the 250th anniversary of Paul Revere's ride and what it means for today."
Notable Quotes:
Marco Rubio (01:43):
"Sanctuary cities are engaged in multiple criminal violations... they are engaged in a scheme to nullify and obstruct the duly enacted laws of the United States of America."
Patrick K. O'Donnell (03:19):
"We need to determine very quickly now... whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it is, we're in. If it's not, we'll move on."
Natalie Winters (19:00):
"The concept of the version of American people that they're talking about is not people like me. It's a very small beltway elite."
Michael Patrick Leahy (32:09):
"On December 1, 2022, Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped for speeding and driving without a valid license... the FBI ordered them to be released despite suspicions of human trafficking."
Steve (36:03):
"Why in a billion years would the FBI override basic law enforcement procedures?... There’s no good logic."
Conclusion
Episode 4424 of Bannon`s War Room tackles critical issues ranging from immigration policies and federal interventions to human trafficking and media manipulation. Through in-depth discussions with political figures and investigative journalists, the episode underscores ongoing struggles within American governance and society. Listeners are left with a heightened awareness of the complexities surrounding these topics and an anticipation for the upcoming historical commemorations.