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Episode 446: Trump’s Medicaid Promise Under Siege By RINO’s, President Trump Selects New Surgeon General
Episode 446: Trump’s Medicaid Promise Under Siege By RINO’s, President Trump Selects New Surgeon General...
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Natalie
Which frankly, I think makes their MAGA subversion escapades just all. All the. All the worse.
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Laura Loomer
Excellent assessment. Take over the show, Natalie.
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Natalie
Have a great couple hours.
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Laura Loomer
Talk to you again soon.
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Natalie
Eric Bolling, thank you so much. And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me today. Wednesday, May 7th, in the year of our Lord 2025. We have a probably enraging cold open that I want to roll for you. I'll put a trigger warning. If you care about borders and sovereignty, you're probably not going to like this one very much. Let's roll it.
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Stephen K. Bannon
New surveillance video showing immigration enforcement agents talking to management at the Millie's Restaurant on Massachusetts Avenue Tuesday morning. Millie's owner says agents asked to see i9 forms.
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Laura Loomer
It's very concerning. The employees are very scared.
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Mike Davis
We're worried about some of them not coming back to work and just a general panic amongst the people that it affects.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Nearly a dozen law enforcement and immigration officials wearing DHS uniforms. Also walking into El Centro restaurant in Georgetown, Chef Jeff's restaurant on New Mexico Avenue Northwest, and Ghost Burger on 9th Street Northwest. Again, wanting i9 forms, which are employment verification forms used to make sure if employees are legally allowed to work in the United States. This video showing what appears to be someone taken into custody. D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser saying D.C. police are not involved in the crackdown.
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Wayne Pacelle
I have heard those reports. I've been getting them all morning. I am disturbed by them. It appears that ICE is at restaurants or even in neighborhoods, and it doesn't look like they're targeting criminals. And so it is disrupting immigration.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Support organizations want to remind workers that they have a right to remain silent. Don't sign any documents and and call an immigration attorney.
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Mike Lindell
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cause we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. It's going to happen.
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Natalie
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Wayne Pacelle
MAGA Media.
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Natalie
I.
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Laura Loomer
In my soul, I wish that any.
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Natalie
Of these people had a conscience.
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Mike Lindell
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Natalie
War room.
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Mike Davis
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Natalie
You're in the war room here in Washington, D.C. where I guess something good, something pro sovereignty and no, no caveat for Ukraine necessary this time around. Happened for once in this city. And we're going to drill down on that ICE raid that we saw go down. A lot of interesting characters involved in that one, but frankly, because I think it is a sinisterly accurate microcosm for what the ruling class of this country has done to what is so supposedly their own country. What they've done to us through the vertical of immigration. Which to summarize, maybe I'd quote Andrew Breitbart and say war, but of all forms. Economic, cultural, kinetic, take your pick. But last night, ICE agents raided a slew of D.C. restaurants. I'm going to single out two of them. I'm proud to say that I've never eaten there, nor will I. But one of them, it gets really interesting. It goes by the name of Chef Jeff's, which is a small chain of restaurants owned by the husband of catch this, CBS's Nora O' Donnell. I'll run that again for you. The spouse of someone who has spent what, decades on air, a taxpayer, somehow subsidized, I'm sure, propaganda mill telling you that you're a nativist and a racist for daring to question what is the great replacement theory. Her husband is busy, I guess, at least per ICE or dhs, probably allegedly hiring illegal aliens. And my personal favorite part of this story is the way that the New Republic decided to spin it. Quote, is Trump now using ICE to take revenge on cbs? Let that sink in. An establishment is potentially caught using legal alien labor and the left wing media's defense of it is that that's somehow President Trump weaponizing Immigration and Customs Enforcement to go after, frankly, a news outlet that probably deserves it. But I digress on that point. I've probably seen no better example of what do we call it in the media, Darvo? The deny attack and reverse victim and offender. Sorry, New Republic, it's not, not the restaurants or the illegal aliens that are the victims. That's victim blaming. It's the American people and the American citizens who I'm sure would have loved to have had those jobs or at least the very least not had their wages depressed by the scam, the racket and the fraud that is illegal immigration. And then it gets even better because the other restaurant that they targeted, Jaleo. I think that's how you pronounce it. Like I said, I've never been. I don't really think the food is probably all that good. I don't know about you guys. I guess I like my cuisine prepared by citizens and not illegal aliens. Call it an America first palate, but this is a restaurant by Jose Andres who not only was he recently bestowed the, what was it? Presidential Medal of Freedom by Joe Biden, but in 2022 he was appointed as Joe Biden's co chair of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition. But here's where it gets really good because President Obama actually made him the ambassador for citizenship and naturalization. Now I would say that's quite ironic that his restaurant's getting raided for hiring illegal aliens. But I think that's maybe just the self fulfilling prophecy that is the way that elites have always viewed citizenship, naturalization, immigration and sovereignty, which is I guess a corporate subsidized or business subsidized, complete and utter destruction of the American working class. So I guess Norah o' Donnell cannot just lie to you every night on tv, but her husband can have better profit margins at his restaurant at the expense of your wages. So he can hire illegal aliens from I guess Venezuela. And speaking of Venezuela, this now gets very interesting and it's going to run all the way back to, you guessed it, Mark Zuckerberg. But some of the groups that actually guess we can start the clock because we're going to need an investigation on this as well. But one of the groups that actually had advanced notice of these raids happening is a group, a very radical group at that by the name of CASA Maryland. Now we had exposed I believe last month on this show that this organization has received at least $250,000 worth of funding from Forward US which is the that Mark Zuckerberg co founded one of the largest pro open borders advocacy organizations that exists on the left and the right. But let's read the quote that they put out to their network of people to try to avoid deportations. Quote we received notice about a specific kind of operation on how they were going to be conducted. What the pretense of maybe entering some of these small businesses were going to be the fact that they were looking specifically at food businesses and possibly delivery workers. So I think DHS maybe needs to get to the bottom of who's leaking there. I fully endorse the use of polygraphs on that one. But what's so interesting too you want to talk about the subversion of this country from start to finish from the border all the way to the interior of this country. CASA Maryland has also received millions of dollars from Venezuelan government owned companies such as Citgo Petroleum. So let that sink in. The Venezuelan government is funding organizations that are preemptively Letting illegal aliens know that they may be deported by President Trump's ice. And I know we always say that we're on both sides of the trade when it comes to Middle east wars or what's going on in Ukraine. But this even gets more interesting because casa Maryland, again, the group at the tip of the spear trying to avoid these illegals from getting deported, well, they also receive millions of dollars in federal subsidies and contracts and grants. Now, the funding is very dark. Money is very clandestine, shall we say. But certain reporting, even from the Washington Post all the way back in 2011, noted that nearly half of their 6 million dollar budget comes from local, state and federal appropriations. And all the way through 2017, they've received at least a million dollars from the DOJ and the Department of Labor. And to make this whole story, I think, even more concerning, and I'm going to use the word that I'm pretty sure Nora o' Donnell has probably told me that I'm not allowed to use. And that's called the Enemy Within. There's another group called the Get Ready for this one. Migrant Solidarity Mutual Aid Network. That's a mouthful, but I'll cut through that. It's basically, again, helping illegal aliens avoid deportation. And you want to know how they conduct their fundraising operations. They use a little platform that you've probably heard of called ActBlue. It's quite interesting, right? The same organization, that's what's busy taking in foreign cash and smurfing donations from American citizens to fund Democratic candidates. And suddenly we have a very, very well financed open border invasion. I would humbly suggest that the DOJ look into that as well. And I think the logical question to all this would be, well, where are the Republicans? And I think you guys are the smartest audience that exists in all of this wonderful new media sphere that we inhabit. And you would know that they're probably busy trying to sabotage President Trump's agenda. I'm looking at you, Thom Tillis, when it comes to Ed Martin, but someone who I guess really just has a penchant for getting it wrong and wrong and wrong. Or I guess maybe in his weird donor funded worldview, getting it right on illegal immigration. And that's none other than Senator Lankford while this raid was going down. Let's see what he was talking about, why it's so important for due process to be had by illegal aliens in the United States.
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Senator Lankford
What's been confusing on this is some people see due process, like as an American citizen, that's a right to A jury trial, that's all those different things. That's not true for due process. For someone who's not a citizen of the United States, it's a different process. It's often just literally what people call an immigration judge is not a typical federal judge or a state judge. This is someone that's in the bureaucracy that their task for DHS is that task on it. So they're, they're a government employee career, that's an immigration judge. So it's a very different process for it. But yes, there is a, there is a need to be able to give an opportunity for someone to be able to make an argument before they're removing the country.
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Natalie
Now, Senator Lankford, I know the phrase due process is apparently 50% of Washington D.C. 's vocabulary right now, but it's quite interesting to me because the same people who are now apoplectic and melting down over due process for, I don't know, convicted rapist, illegal aliens yet where were you guys on calling for due process for I don't know how many millions of Americans who were censored from every big tech platform, government coordinated, might I add. I would agree. America is in need of due process for people like, I don't know, the Jan Sixers, people like Stephen K. Bannon, people who protested outside abortion clinics and prayed the rosary. Yeah, they probably need some due process. As far as I'm concerned, all legal aliens need is processing. It's sort of like to me, when you hear them euphemize, what is it, you know, the mutilation of young children. Right. It's not gender affirming care. Right. That's the sort of whitewashed PR term that they use to make it more salient among the masses. Yeah. Process is what essentially, I guess just the whitewashing euphemism for saying, hey, I don't think we're allowed to deport a bunch of people who essentially invaded this country last time I checked. Have you ever heard these people call for, I don't know, due process for Ukrainians to kill Russians? Due process for Russians? No, because to them that's an invasion. So, you know, whatever, do what you want. But what happened to this country under Joe Biden apparently is not as bad. It didn't reach the level of invasion. So they now are, I guess, bestowed due process from countries where I'd love to see if the rule of law even exists in a bunch of these third world countries that these people are coming from. Something tells me it doesn't. And I guess what Speaking of the rule of law, that's apparently the other phrase that occupies the other 50% of their vocabulary. Yeah, I'm going to push back on that at face value. Rule of law? Really? You think that exists in this country? Rule of law means what, you get a trial with Judge Merchan as your judge whose daughter is going to be fundraising off of your motivated political persecutions against President Trump or I don't know, conveniently how Judge Boasberg seems to keep getting every single case that's against President Trump. That's what rule of law is to you. It is all performative. The, the R word and the D word, due process and rule of law. And by the way, these Republicans on the House side too, they're equally bad. They decided this week to cancel the vote. That would have stripped the funding that doge found from USAID. I think we're talking upwards of $9 billion in addition to P, PBS and NPR. These are not serious people. It's purely performative. And guys, I know you watch this show. It's insulting to our intelligence. We'll take a little due process on you guys and make sure that you're actually implementing the MAGA agenda because as far as I've seen, even if you started the clock, just, I don't know this morning, there's a lot of evidence that you guys aren't. We got a PAC show Laura Loomer, Mike Davis, so much more. Make sure you hang around. Explosive scoops, as you could probably guess from Laura Loomer. We'll be right back after this break.
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Mike Lindell
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Mike Davis
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Natalie
You know the drill. You got to be checking out birchgold.com/bannon or texting Bannon to 989898. You know, all the horrible, feckless Republicans that we talk about sabotaging, whether it's Ed Martin or take your pick, you really trust those people to be helming the financial system here in this country? I don't know about you. I don't. So I got to be checking out birchgold.com Bannon Someone, though, who I think is equally powerful at holding these Republican traders and of course the Democrat traders, I guess equal opportunity offenders there to account is none other than Laura Loomer, who I'm honored to be joined by. I want to read you a headline from the Bulwark, which I don't typically unironically quote from, but I like it. Today, Laura Loomer just called the GOP's bluff on Medicaid cuts. This audience knows that we've been really, I think, duking it out with some of the more rhino establishment wings of the Republican Party over these Medicaid cuts. You have a really groundbreaking scoop, which when I first texted you, it was just percolating. Now it seems like the man that you, shall we say Loomer, is already adjusting, deleting some tweets. If you want to walk the audience through this story sort of from start to finish and then we can talk, you think, talk through maybe where you think these, these Medicaid cuts are going to end up.
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Wayne Pacelle
Yeah. So thanks for having me on. Look, a lot of the discussion as it relates to the big, big, beautiful bill over the last couple of weeks and a lot of these talking points that are being spewed by the radical left as it relates to their strategy to undermine President Trump and somehow find a, to regain a sense of power as we head into the midterms in 2026 has revolved around this false idea that President Trump is going to be cutting Medicaid. President Trump has doubled down on his commitment to protecting Medicaid countless times over and over again. And yet every single time, either myself or Loomer unleashed staff are out in the field in Washington, D.C. or around the country documenting all of these radical left Democrat protests that we're seeing pop up. They all have signs that say protect Medicaid or Don Trump and Elon Musk are, are going to be cutting Medicaid. And one of the individuals who is going around Washington D.C. trying to encourage Republicans to cut Medicaid is an individual by the name of Brian Blaze. We can go ahead and get my tweet pulled up if you want and people can see this for themselves because I like to show the receipts, you know, and all the receipts are underneath my tweet, but it says that Trump's Medicaid promise is under staged by rhino saboteurs like Paragon Health CEO Brian Blaze. And he's funded by the Kochs and he's a Trumper, according to his previous social media tweets that I've uncovered. Obviously trying to masquerade as a MAGA loyalist, which is what all of these subversive, subversive creatures try to do. And this is a really dangerous game that he's playing, going around trying to create this sort of playbook, authoring letters and pamphlets for congressional Republicans. There was a report that came out on May 4th that even said Koch funded group authored House GOP letter demanding Medicaid cuts. And so he's trying to undermine President Trump's agenda. I don't know who this guy thinks he is. He I guess worked within the Trump administration at some point and so he thinks that that gives him a license to call himself a Trump ally. Little does he know that some of the worst offenders when it comes to never Trumpers and saboteurs and people that like to attack and subvert and malign Donald Trump and his administration and his America first agenda are people who worked within the Trump administration. Some of these individuals are still there, unfortun, as I have uncovered over the last several months through my White House vetting crisis series. And so Natalie, this guy now is crying and trying to go back in time and delete a lot of his tweets. And I guess I caused him to have a full fledged meltdown because he's been taking to the Internet attacking House Republicans, congressional leadership and the gop, saying that if they don't succeed in cutting Medicaid, then they are just a bunch of failures. And you can see there on the screen it says this is why we can't have Trump. Entitlement reform is the most important issue. So clearly Brian and I have different understandings of what it means to be a Trump loyalist, because to be A Trump loyalist means you've never crossed Donald Trump, you'd never attacked Donald Trump in terms of being against him as a, as a candidate for president. And I just showed you the receipts, he clearly was opposed to Trump. He said we can never have Trump. So I don't, I don't know where this guy is getting the term MAGA loyalist from, because he's not a MAGA loyalist. A MAGA loyalist. Brian Blaze, not so much.
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Natalie
I'm curious. There was a quote that I think is quite interesting from you. We know Medicaid cuts would be a death wish during the midterms. We obviously believe that here in the war room. I'm curious, when you try to understand the motivations, obviously the Koch network, you know, this guy is, to use a phrase, a listless vessel for their ambitions, their aspirations. But do you think that this is something that is contained solely to the issue of Medicaid cuts? In other words, it's, you know, health care apparatus, big pharma, all of those people just wanting to have their payday, or do you think that this is something more nefarious in terms of kneecapping and sabotaging President Trump's momentum, barreling into 2026, potentially leading, you know, to him being impeached if we lose the House?
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Wayne Pacelle
This isn't just, you know, designated to the issue of Medicaid or healthcare. Natalie. I've been talking about what I've coined as the Coke coup, and I've been talking about this for several months now as I've been watching the subversive nature of some of the appointees who have been nominated to serve in position in the Trump administration. And some of the most glaring examples of the vetting crisis that I've uncovered are individuals themselves who are tied to the Koch network. And so there seems to be this subversive, calculated effort by members of this Koch network to find ways to sneak into key positions within the Trump administration, whether it be Ruger over at DNI under Tulsi Gabbard, or whether it be this individual himself, Brian Blaze, who is the head of Parag Health and is funded by the Kochs. How can you call yourself a Trump ally when we know that the Kochs, you know, essentially exists and the current, the current state of affairs to undermine and sabotage Donald Trump? I mean, from the very get go, the Kochs invested millions of dollars opposing President Trump when he first ran. And we saw that even now they're, they're, they're funding lawsuits against his tariffs. This is another story that I exposed a couple of weeks ago. And the groups that the Kochs are notorious for funding, especially the Federalist Society, there was this big scandal a couple of weeks ago in the media, Natalie, for these donations and, and how the Koch network is trying to subvert the Trump administration. And so it doesn't matter if they're so called libertarian or Republican donors. We know, we have the receipts, we have the financial record. We have followed the money to prove that the Kochs are trying to undermine President Trump. And so by that logic, if you are funded by the Kochs, how can you then call yourself a Trump ally? Right. This is what he's doing is you can pull up another article that just came out, I believe it came out today in Politico, and he's talking about how, oh, Laura Loomer isn't being honest. I'm a Trump ally. I worked with President Trump. I support his agenda. But then he doesn't want to answer for his previous tweets in which he said, we can never have Trump. And he doesn't want to answer for why he's trying to get House Republicans to go against President Trump, who is on video. I mean, how many times do we have to play these clips from President Trump saying that he's going to secure Medicaid? We have. We have all of the numbers here. Recent polling that was just released a couple of weeks ago, and I know that Steve Bannon also covered this here on War room, shows that 78% of Republican voters firmly support Medicaid, according to recent polling. And so why would we want to hand the Democrats an advantage in 2026 in the midterms when we already have such a slim majority and we now. Reckless and incompetent and stupid. Well, maybe they're not stupid at this point. I think it's just deliberate sabotage and malicious intent from the Republicans. Right? We give them too much credit when we allow them to have the excuse that they're stupid. It's all coordinated, right? These are people who have shown us that they do not want to codify President Trump's agenda. So if they're not going to codify Trump's agenda, that's already going to lead to voter suppression going into 2026. Imagine what cutting Medicaid, which 78% of MAGA MAGA voters support, according to recent polling, is going do to suppress turnout in midterms. It's almost like they want the Democrats to win so that they can get their final stab at Trump, Their last. Their last shot. Right? They failed at assassinating him multiple times. They failed at impeaching him. They failed at stealing the election this time around. It's their last shot, Natalie, to lose the House so that they can give the Democrats one last excuse to impeach Donald Trump and slow down and obstruct his entire agenda in the last two years of his administration.
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Natalie
We've got a few minutes before break. I'd like to hold you, if we can, to get into the, shall we say, developing news when it comes to President Trump's surgeon general pick. But just today, for example, they sort of, you know, covertly canceled votes on defunding usaid, pbs, npr, essentially all one in the same. But your thoughts on how you even attempt to, you know, justify this idea that if we're going to make cuts, which apparently we can't do on the Doge side. Right. It's only going to be 150 billion. It's not the 2 trillion that was initially promised, but they're willing to draw down on, on Medicaid, which is, you know, so inherently important to not just MAGA voters, but to the country writ large. I mean, I think that that sort of is the case that you are making, that this is political. But your thoughts on the cancellation of that vote?
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Wayne Pacelle
Well, look, I think it's really simple and I think it's very telling that there's not discussions taking place about increasing the speed of mass deportations and the enormous burden on our health care industry and just, just, you know, health care in general that illegal aliens present to the American taxpayer. And so I think it's logical don't cut Medicaid right. From hardworking Americans and, you know, key MAGA voters, the heartland of this country that secured these election victories for President Trump, start increasing mass deportations and decreasing the burden that these criminal, illegal aliens are placing on our health care system. Right. On the Medicaid system. So, you know, it's not rocket science. You don't have to be a member of Congress to understand how this works. But apparently it's very difficult for people like Brian Blaise to understand this subject. And it's very difficult for House Republicans to, you know, simply go along with President Trump's, you know, deportation efforts and to support his agenda and to codify his agenda. And I don't know, maybe, maybe if people like Jim Jordan started putting more effort into impeaching some of these radical judges who are trying to stop the mass deportations, we could kill two birds with one stone. Right? We could get all the illegals out. We could lower they can do is.
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Natalie
Not even a full committee hearing. It's a subcommittee hearing that I guess ultimately gets canceled. Laura, if you can hang with us through the break, love to get your thoughts on the surgeon general pick because you probably had a hand in some of that, at least allegedly. And by the way, quick shout out. Charles Downs, who is part of your Lumen team, does wonderful work. I always see him walking around the Capitol sort of, I guess, mini looming a bunch of people. So you guys do a great operation here. Honored to have you on Warren Posse. In the meantime, before we're back, make sure you check out Patriot mobile. That's patriot mobile.com Bannon maybe use your patriot mobile phone to give 202-224-OR-225-3121 a call and let them. Or as Steve would say, give him the old.
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Mike Lindell
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Mike Davis
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Natalie
You're back in the war room where, as always, you got to be checking out birchgold.com Bannon texting Bannon to 989-898. Give Philip, Patrick and the team a call or get the latest installment not of the end of the dollar empire. I think we have reversed that under President Trump. But the new installment that Steve just wrote is absolutely wonderful. So make sure you get your copy. But back to the news. Laura, we got a few minutes left with you. We're Mike Davis on after, but as you were coming on there was some breaking news that President Trump, Trump's pick for Surgeon general, Jeanette Neuschwat, has been abandoned, scrapped, in favor of Casey Means, or rather Callie Means, who I think is wonderful as a strong maha person myself. But, Laura, walk us through sort of what happened here. I know you had had some, shall we say, receipts on Dr. Neuschwad.
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Wayne Pacelle
Thanks, Natalie. Yeah, look, this is just a continuation of the White House vetting crisis. I don't know who's in charge of this vetting department that doesn't really seem to exist within the White House, but it's becoming extremely problematic. I had a meeting with President Trump in the beginning of April that was quite, you know, largely publicized. I mean, everybody saw it, right? There's no denying what happened in the aftermath of that meeting. A lot of people were fired. And the problem is, Natalie, is that we wouldn't be needing to have these mass firings of people who are in charge of vetting or during, you know, the transition period, would have actually done proper vetting on the individuals who have been brought into the Trump administration. And so I don't work for Donald Trump. I don't tell Donald Trump what to do. But I am an independent journalist. I do my own investigations, my own research. I am an opposition researcher. And I believe I have a duty to help protect the president and to make sure that the people that are up for these confirmations are the best people who are best suited to be serving the president and his agenda. And I don't know who nominated Jeanette Neuschwa. I don't know if she only got the position due to nepotism because she happens to be the sister in law of now. You know, the now former. Right. Former NSC adviser Michael Waltz, who was just exiled to Siberia when President Trump made him the United nations ambassador last week. But she is on record supporting vaccinations for Covid, even after there were tons of studies published showing that these vaccines, really, DNA modifiers were causing extreme health ailments. She's on video advocating for the masking of children. Okay, it's child abuse. She's on video entertaining this tranny delusion with gender dysphoria in children, essentially supporting the idea that children can be transgender, which is totally oppositional to President Trump's health, public health vision for America, and also just. Just conservative values in general, period. She also encouraged and supported Facebook censoring vaccine information during the COVID vaccine mandates, in which we saw Facebook censoring people in the Maha movement and in the alternative medicine world when they were promoting things like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, and they were saying that this was dangerous to public health and that it needed to be censored for the good of the American people. Because, according to Mark Zuckerberg, we. We can't make our own decisions as it relates to our bodies. Want to abort a baby? Sure, no problem. But my body by choice when it comes to vaccines, unacceptable, according to these people. And that's what she supported. But through my own investigation, I uncovered that the nominee for Surgeon General is embroiled in active litigation, a malpractice case that suggested that she didn't seem to understand the difference between an infection and a foreign object, which is, you know, kind of just general knowledge. You should know that if you're going to be the Surgeon general. And then, of course, there were other reports that came out earlier in the week, Natalie, that suggested that she lied about her credentials or fabricated some of her credentials to make it seem like she went to an American medical school when she, in fact, went to a foreign medical school. So I think it was just, you know, death by a thousand cuts. And, you know, it seems like the receipts that I published about four days ago seemed to be the final nail in her coffin. So it's great that President Trump is very receptive to this information and that he's taking this additional vetting quite seriously in his decision making. And I'm happy to see that her nomination has been pulled. We really dodged a bullet. She was supposed to go before the Senate tomorrow for her confirmation hearing, and now President Trump has nominated somebody else. So hopefully, you know, it all works out for the good. But. But Jeanette was very unpopular with the MAGA base. And, you know, anybody could have done some surface level vetting to figure that out. But as I said before, it's very concerning, Natalie. There doesn't seem to be any proper vetting or any vetting at all happening in this administration. So hopefully we can rectify that soon.
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Natalie
And, Laura, last question real quick. Before I let you go directionally, the next people that you are looking into, hopefully looming, people who are pretending to be pro Trump and aren't. Can you give our audience show a little bit of ankle, as Steve would say, on. On anything that you're looking into right now?
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Wayne Pacelle
Well, I'm looking into a lot of the HHS appointees. You know, when President Trump made his deal with RFK Jr. The deal was you got to stay in your lane, right? He tried to be friendly about it and joked about it at the rallies. You know, I told him he's got to stay in his lane. It doesn't look like RFK is staying in his lane. And so I am investigating officials at HHS who have been appointed by Kennedy because it appears that. That some of these individuals have, you know, radical views. They're Marxists. These are individuals who are climate activists. Radical climate activists who seem to be engaged in anti Trump propaganda while they are still working within the Trump administration. I just broke a story the other day about a woman by the. By the name of Stephanie Speier who was appointed by RFK Jr to serve as his deputy chief of staff. She's the founder of a group called Eco Watch. She was RFK Junior's press secretary for his presidential campaign. And Stephanie Spear was the founder and was listed as a CEO for this group, Eco Watch, which is a climate change activism group. Well, even though she's working at HHS in the Trump administration, Eco Watch the other day took to their Twitter account X account, oops, just dead named X to literally trash the Trump administration. And to say that all of his tariffs and everything that he's done has basically put us back two years and that we were better under Joe Biden. And it still shows that she's the CEO and founder of Eco Watch and RFK also works with her on this project. And so that's very concerning. The receipts have been posted online for that investigation as well. And I'm going to be looking at other officials at hhs, but unfortunately. Look, I know everyone likes to sing Kumbaya and pretend like we can all get along and we can all be friends, but if you're not ideologically compatible, eventually you're going to clash. And I don't think that this idea that people can stay in their lane is reasonable. And the receipts show, Natalie, that some of these HHS officials are not staying in their lane. And that's going to be a problem if we have people using secret social media accounts to try to subvert Donald Trump and push out anti Trump propaganda while they're working inside the Trump administration.
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Natalie
Well, Laura, I think you probably just caused an emergency meeting to be called at hhs. And on that note, you know, this audience appreciate, appreciates your work. If people want to follow you, check out everything you're doing, your whole team, where can they go to do that?
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Wayne Pacelle
Yeah, you can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and also on X at Loomer Unleashed. And my website is loomer.com I have a show on Rumble every Tuesday and Thursday called Lumer Unleashed, 9pm Eastern. And also for people listening who are interested in having their own executive level vetting and opposition research, whether you're a candidate or whether you are a corporate executive or whether you're thinking of running for opposition office. I launched my own opposition research firm called Bloomberg Strategies. And I think it's really important that you know, with the midterms coming up, that Republicans, consultants, strategists, Republican candidates, I know that a lot of Republican candidates and elected officials watch War Room. They have the best opposition research possible because information is a weapon and it's time to get weaponized. You need to kneecap your political opposition with the best information. And that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to niche recap all of President Trump's enemies and all of the saboteurs who are trying to subvert his agenda so that we can protect Donald Trump.
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Natalie
It's information warfare. Laura, always an honor to have you on. We'll have you back on soon.
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Wayne Pacelle
Thanks for having me. Really appreciate it.
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Natalie
Of course. And I think Steve would call this Murderers Row. We're now going to go to Mike Davis. Mike, you've got a few minutes. I know the Article 3 project was celebrating a lot of the judicial nominations from President Trump in his first hundred days. If you want to walk through some of the, the heavy hitters, the I guess for once, judicial nominations and nominees that are actually good and not radical activist judges, let's hear it.
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Mike Davis
Yeah. President Trump's biggest and most consequential accomplishments of his first term was the appointment of three justices and the transformation of the federal judiciary to the first constitutionalist majority in 90 years. And you know, these judges and justices will disappoint us from time to time. But just imagine how bad it would have been if Hillary Clinton replaced the late great Justice Scalia instead of President Trump. And President Trump is going to build on this first term accomplishment in his second term with even more bold and fearless judges. And the Article 3 project is working very closely with President Trump, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Dave Warrington, the White House counsel, Steve Kenney, the deputy White House counsel who we've had on the war room, Attorney General Pam Bondi and her team. And they've, they are off to a very strong start with their first batch of judicial nominees. You have Whitney Hermandorfer. Her on a Tennessee based seat on the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals. She is a brilliant, brilliant legal mind, a rock solid constitutionalist. She's clerk for Justice Alito and two other Supreme Court justices. She's, she has taken on the woke left transgender ideology. She's been a strong advocate for First Amendment rights for people with Christian beliefs and other conservatives. She's going to be a great addition to the 6th Circuit. And then President Trump has picked four All Stars for district court seats in the state of Missouri, particularly in the Eastern District of Missouri in St. Louis, which is going to become a litigation hotbed because I think it's like seven of the eight district court judges are now Republican appointed. You have Christian Stevens, Joshua Devine who worked on the Senate Judiciary Committee and all star Maria Lanahan, Zachary Bluestone. We have, we are off to a very strong start. These are even more bold and fearless judges. These are not your typical Federalist Society cookie cutters judicial nominees. These are Article 3 Project Approved Judicial nominees. And that's what President Trump wants. He's, we've, I've spoken with him several times about judicial not many, many, many, many times about judicial nominees. And we are delivering for President Trump and the American people with even more bold and fearless judges. This is more important than ever. When you see this ongoing lawfare against President Trump, they before the election they tried to bankrupt him for non fraud. They tried to, they tried to take him off the ballot several times unconstitutionally under the 14th amendment. They tried to throw him in prison four times for life for non crimes. They tried to take off his head. And President Trump got a decisive mandate from the American people. Now we have these activist judges around the country, these Obama and Biden radicals around the country who are sabotaging the president. And that's why we need judges like this first slate of judges that President Trump just put up, these bold and fearless judges who are going to follow the law and they're going to make sure that we're following the Constitution and they're not cowed by the left like too many of these Republican appointed judges have been in the past. More bold and fearless. We want Supreme Court justices in the mold of justice Justice Judge Eileen Cannon rights instead of some of these other.
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Natalie
I guess you could just say no more Bozbergs. How about that? Mike Davis, We've got to bounce. Give the audience your coordinates. The Article 3 project. If they want to reach out, where can they go?
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Mike Davis
Article3project.org article number 3project.org you can donate there. Follow us on social media. The War Room Posse Superpower take action. And thank you, Natalie.
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Natalie
Mike Davis, as always, thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. Warren Posse, don't go anywhere. Not only do I have the 6pm but we're going to get into maybe some finally good news on the Fauci Beagle Gate front. The horrible things Democrats are doing to animals. We'll be right back after the short break.
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Mike Lindell
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Mike Davis
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Natalie
Welcome back to the War room, I think, I think home of all things Anthony Fauci. Typically we talk about the gain of function research, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but on I guess just a basic human decency level. I'm sure you all remember Beagle Gate, what was going on here. I also think in Tunisia and China the horrible things they were funding. Someone who is an expert on all of that. I'm honored to have him on that is Wayne Pacelli, the former CEO actually of the Humane Society. Talk about the big tent that we have here. I wanted to have you on to talk about the Trump administration' moves to cancel so much of these horrible beagle experiments, but also just more broadly, particularly your organization's kind of been tracking how the Trump administration really has been revolutionary in terms of weeding out, cutting out animal testing, at least here in the United States.
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Laura Loomer
Yeah, Natalie, I'm glad to be with you and your audience President of Animal Wellness Action. And I think what's happened recently in the month of April with Jay Bhattacharya, the appointee to direct the National Institutes of health and then Dr. Marty McCary to be commissioner of FDA is the biggest gain on animal testing in the 150 year history of animal testing and vivisection. And so much credit is due to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Obviously, President Trump. I've been working with Lara Trump on this issue for years. She and I were, were calling lawmakers with the FDA Modernization act that Rand Paul led in the Senate. Rand Paul did a fantastic job leading this effort. We had a government mandate. The federal government was telling pharmaceutical companies that the only way they could screen, screen new drugs, a new cancer drug, a heart drug, a pain drug, a bone drug, was to do extensive multi year testing on animals. We showed that the data, data was conclusive in the wrong direction for the, for the scientists who are advocating for this. In nine of 10 cases, when drugs pass muster in animal tests with beagles, primates and other animals, it would fail in human clinical trials. What kind of success rate is this? If it's a 90% failure rate, 10% success rate. So we made the case. Rand Paul led the bill to eliminate the animal testing mandate. And the backdrop of all this was NIH and its different agencies supporting these ghastly beagle experiments. I'll tell you as a beagle owner and lover, these animals are so trusting, they are so gentle and that's the reason that they're used in these labs, do these diabolical tests on them. But Makary was approved or confirmed by the Senate on April 1. On April 10, his first public announcement was to say we're getting out of this entire business. This, we're getting out of animal testing, which was a 1930s depression era strategy. And we're going into this new 21st century set of human relevant methods of screening drugs. And then just two weeks later, J. Bhattacharya leading nih, the biggest grantor of biomedical research in the world, said they're going to follow. So hats off to President Trump, to Lara Trump for really being an incredible advocate. Kit Rand Paul, so many of the lawmakers, Buddy Carter of Georgia has been leading on the House side on this. It's been an incredible effort. We have a new dawn when it comes to beagle protection in the United States and it's only because of the change in the administration, because the Biden team was stonewalling and blocking even after we passed the FDA Modernization act to Eliminate the animal testing mandate that had been in place for 84 years.
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Natalie
And just give me a few minutes, a little bit on your organization. But particularly, I think there's an even more nefarious side to the animal testing or experiments which we saw go on in Wuhan. Right. With the transgenic mice, the sort of gain of function, experimentation. Obviously, the Trump administration has made great strides, but where would you say they, you know, in conjunction with Congress? What do they have left to do to, you think, really, you know, seal the deal on this issue?
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Laura Loomer
Well, we need to. There's a lot more to do because these were vision statements, and they were as good as they could have been. But now we need to shut down seven national, regional, regional primate centers that have tens of thousands of primates that are destined for laboratories. Unless we, we shut down those efforts, this should be a top priority for the DOGE to shut down these national primate research centers. We have two massive private beagles breeding colonies to feed those beagles into the lab system. There's one in upstate New York that has 20,000 beagles, like on a factory farm, and then there's another one in Wisconsin with about 3 or 4,000 beagles. So we've got to shut down the regional primate centers. We've got to. If we're doing grant making, and obviously grant making in many areas of medical research and drug screening is important. We've got to make sure the animals are not involved because they're just not working as a proxy for humans. They're not forecasting, testing the human reaction to drugs. What we have are organs on a chip, organoids, artificial intelligence, all of these 21st century methods, to be more accurate, more reliable. One reason we have enormously high drug prices is because of all this animal testing. It jacks up the pricing for, for, for the drugs. Because it takes 10 to 15 years for a drug to get to market. It's $2.2 billion in costs, partly because of the government mandate on the pharmaceutical chemicals. And then it fails nine to 10 times. So every drug that passes muster has to cover that 2.2 billion, but then also the nine failures. And if it's 2 billion for each one, that's $22 billion. That means we have to go for the blockbuster drugs. When you have 7,000 diseases afflicting people, we're not able to get at the diseases that are affecting millions and millions of Americans.
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Natalie
And, Wayne, we're coming up against the end of the show. We'll definitely have you back on. In the meantime, if people want to check out your organization keep up to date with you. Where can they go to do that.
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Laura Loomer
That animal wellness action.org and we're really grateful. We just exposed the terrible Native American animal sacrifice plan. They're smothering eagles to sacrifice these eagles to the, to the spiritual guides there. So please join us, get involved. We're fighting animal cruelty, which is a vice in our society. Animal cruelty is tied to other abuses, criminality, a loss of empathy for others. And again, I want to thank, you know, the leadership at NIH and FDA and the president and also Bobby Kennedy for this incredible turnaround on animal testing.
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Natalie
Thank you so much for joining us, Wayne. Have a good one. And Mike Lindell, I think we got you down line. Bring us home the latest on all things MyPillow.
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