
Episode 4460: Germany Labels AfD An Extremist Organization ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Kane
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Steve Bannon
Saturday 3rd May, year Valor 2025. We're going to have alternative for Deutschland is going to join us in the bottom of the hour to go through. They've been now ruled by German intelligence and German authorities, an extremist party and platformed out to be banned. This follows what's happened of trying to put Le Pen in prison in France with Bolsonaro on trial, to be put in prison in Brazil with President Trump. As you know, 32 felonies and many more from Jack Smith to come. Prison for 300 years, 400 years. You're seeing it across the board. A coup d'etat happening in South Korea, but big news coming. South Korea and a candidate, if you look around the world, to the populist, you know, populist nationalist movement, of which Nigel Farage had a massive victory and essentially crushed both the Labour Party and the Tory Party yesterday. The rise in democracy, the rise of us winning in ballot boxes is being thwarted by the deep state. That's the only way they can defeat it. A bombshell. So, Kane, I just got it to you. I had it up on Gettert last night. I was in the Financial Times. It was actually sent to me by people that are in the middle of these negotiations. So, folks, and this is one of the reasons to go to Birchgold, go to birchgold.com right now. The Rio reset drill down onto it is like ripped from today's headlines. All of this is free. But you got to understand this because what have we been preaching at the worm? So go to birchgold.com promo code abandoned. Get it? It's free. Homework assignment. Because on July 6, we're going to do something every day. In fact, we have the Amazing Arthur. As I said, Salia Motion is going to join us on Monday for an hour to go through about the weaponization of the dollar and how that led to a new world order. We're going to go through all this to make sure that you are as intelligent as anybody that's been here. Now, why do we make such a big deal about these deficits and debts? Because it has to be financed and refinanced.
Unknown
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
What it means is that before when Dick Cheney said deficits don't matter is because it was all in the out years. You know, Kane is an intern. It was two just past $2 trillion world 38 years later, it's at $37 trillion and basically accumulating at approximately a trillion dollars every hundred days because it's so out of control, the spending sort of control. One of the things we remember we, when Liz Truss came in two years ago and we made such a big deal, Larry Kudlow and all these guys were running around saying, hey, it's a Reagan tax cut and this is going to be great. And right on the show we said they missed the plot point here. What they're doing is a massive tax cut with no spending, with no concurrent spending cuts. The bond market will not believe it. The bond market won't believe it and they're going to turf her out. And what happened 30 days later, she was turfed out by the bond market. Right here. It's about refinancing this. It's not in the out years. Deficits matter because this is how inflation's embedded into the system. This is how the oligarchs make money. The concentration of wealth comes from the federal spend and these massive deficits. Now you talk about, and we've warned about this, the Japanese let the Americans know in this negotiation, as reported by the Financial Times of London, leaked by the Japanese to say, look, we understand, we have. Not only do we have high tariffs, we do have non tariff barriers. You caught us, Trump exposed us. We got it and we're engaged and kind of become part of your trading block and even block out the ccp. But when you bring. But we don't know if that will eventually close these trade deficits. And you guys have said, hey, there's got to be some way to do it. Maybe even be some sort of bond that you have to take or some sort of financial commitment. All types of alternatives. People are talking about, well, they came back and put a shot across our bow. They said, yeah, that, okay, everything's on the table and let's discuss everything. But hey, suck on this, we own a trillion dollars of this crap, okay? And we can see how Scott Bessen's got to sell 10 trillion to refinance it. You're going to come back to us and want us to own a trillion more. We understand it, we're partners. But guys, you just ain't going to sit there and jam us with this crap all the time and then come to us and say you're ripping us off in trade. This is my point. We must get our own house in order. The alternatives that we have are not American alternative other people. The global capital markets are gonna be making decisions for American citizens and this is the path we're hurtling down. And these gutless morons over here in Capitol Hill don't wanna face it. And the people at msnbc, they don't care cuz they don't do the math. They just wanna spend everything. Kaine, your thoughts and observations sir.
Kane
Yeah, ending with the last one. You're right. MSNBC and cnn, they don't care. They don't do the math. They only care about feelings. That's why they freaked out about 163 million in non defense discretionary. That's the only thing they cared about. They didn't even pay attention to the fact that the overall budget didn't go down because their minds never even think about deficits. You're right in pointing out that it's about financing the debt. What people need to understand is this debt is generally and has been financed on the short end, the six month, the one year, the two year treasuries. So this stuff is coming up for refinancing all the time. So the tre. You know the most important thing people need to watch in financial markets isn't the stock market and how it's moving but the bond market and how it handles these weekly treasury auctions where Bessant and others have to show back up and sell this debt. And you bring up the point. I mean we've known this for decades.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Don't, don't skip over. You're bearing the lead here. Let's go back in time. And this is what this shows to teach a working class and middle class audience. We financed this during Biden like a banana republic, okay? And they knew exactly what they were doing. They couldn't sell the bonds out, they couldn't sell tens and thirties because they'd have to pay too much. So what they did, they went to a what a banana republic does like Argentina in the old days. Right before what you do is you Just have six months and years and just churning all the time to try to keep it down and try to keep your head about this is your whole point about how do you go bankrupt, right? Slowly at first and then all at once because eventually it catches up with you. It's like financing your house on a credit card, on an expensive credit card. That's what the American elite have been doing. The Wall street people have been doing, the corporations have been doing it, the government's been doing, the Federal Reserve's been doing. They all understood this modern monetary theory, deficits didn't matter and they would just do it and they allowed it. And nobody called them out except here in the war room. And a guy named Scott Besson would come on this show three years ago and say, hey, look, let me just give you a heads up. We're kind of like a banana republic because we're financing this on a credit card and that day. And the chickens are going to come home to roost. Well, hey, guess what? The chickens are coming home to. Ro Kane, your thoughts?
Unknown
Yeah.
Kane
So people understand that even with more, you know, with more granular detail, the low end of the treasury, the three month, the six month, the one year bills, though the interest cost on those is much lower. So that's why, that's the third world stuff you're talking about. That's why the Biden administration and Obama, even before him, the interest rates were so low on the low end that they were, they were refinancing this stuff at 1%, not thinking about how difficult it was going to be when interest rates finally started to rise. And that sort of throws the whole thing onto Scott Bessant, onto his lap. He's got to deal with this sort of massive refinancing caused by the fact that no one was able to go, you know, that Biden wasn't willing to go out five years on the treasury market. So look, let's get to Japan. And you know, it's because China owns a trillion in our, in our US Treasuries as well. And I want to cover that really quickly. That is the leverage point. That's the, you know, the point you're making is perfect. Look, they have leverage over us, you know, yeah, we've got, we've got certain things on them, but when they own $1 trillion of US treasuries and as you said, they're going to, we're going to want them to buy more. Well, look where, you know, where did our leverage go? And something else, Bannon, that we haven't talked about is the threat of downgrades. I'm talking about Moody's S and P and Fitch. As our Debt grows from 37 to 40 trillion, 12 months from now, 43 trillion, 12 months more after that, we're going to get hit by downgrades again. Wall street and sort of the bond market vigilantes are going to demand it. We've allowed it. So foreign bond traders and foreign governments can essentially control our political decisions because we need them to buy our debt. As you know, the freak out a month. Go ahead. All right, go Bo.
Steve Bannon
No, you keep going.
Kane
Three weeks ago with the hiccup with tariffs, with the 90 day pause, a lot of that was due to the Bo bond market. These four, the bond market vigilantes walked away. The 10 year treasury went from yielding 3.8 to 4.5 overnight. This is a massive move. And what it showed is that you know, and part of that is revenge. Right? We're trying. That's one of the downsides of having this huge internationally financed national debt is when you want to crack the whip on tariffs and trading. The foreign governments can say, you know, are not even foreign governments. Foreign traders and foreign banks can say you know what, we're not going to show up to treasury auctions or we're going to require a percent more. So the whole thing is dangerous. I hope people understand how we got here and why it's so important to fix it now why I'm so pissed off. Go ahead.
Steve Bannon
The control of our nation is about to go from the hands in the 100% decisions of Americans, whether they're liberals or conservatives to the international capital markets. Three things are happening. The conversions of this as we're redoing the trade which you have to redo the commercial relationships because you can't keep getting ripped off anymore and having basically free access to this market. You that the mood, the manufacturing here, are you going to have to pay a toll? Number one. Number two in the, in the capital market, the Japanese and the Chinese who have been buying, you know up to a trillion dollars of this and are going to be looked at to buy more sitting there going well you know, maybe we, maybe we that's fine but maybe we got to say so on that the hickey in the bond market was it froze remember two weeks ago about the trade in the uncertainty. It froze for a while and then Besson oversaw a 10 year auction that day. But, but Keynes 100% right. There was an explosion in the tens. Right. These bond vigilantes, the Same people that turfed out Liz Truss and they're going, hey, we'll do it but you got to pay us. You got to pay us more. The third aspect, this is why we're covering the brics because that's also global capital markets. You have the Japanese are saying this has to be part of the negotiation. The Chinese are already telling you that, that if you're going to make us pay more and you say that we're at economic war with you maybe have a say. So the third element is the BRICS nations, the all others, they're sitting there and saying, hey look, we're having to convert all this into dollars. Maybe there's an alternative for us. Maybe there's an alternative. And this is the CCP understands that de dollarization right now when we're weakest right to commence the process then makes the takes the US off the prime reserve currency. Look, Kane and I are absolutely a believer that we have to have a national debate whether we want to continue to be the prime reserve currency and some sort of, you know, Bretton woods and some sort of thing post war. It's not the post war international rules based order because there's a ton of responsibilities that come with that. But that's a national debate. You have over many years. You just don't, you get off it in a short period of time. The United States is Argentina. The only reason these people got to suck on it right now is the dollar is the prime reserve currency. They need the dollar to convert transactions. The only great export we have besides, you know, airplanes and some advanced chips is the dollar because everybody needs it. Okay. And that just keeps printing at the Federal Reserve. Yeah.
Kane
And if it, and if it ends, if, if dollar hegemony ends, the gravy train ends. I mean the only reason that we're able to run these kind of deficits year after year and run up a $37 trillion national debt is because the dollar is the world's reserve currency. So you said it. If we go off in even a short time, we're Argentina. What is it going to cost to get countries to buy U.S. treasuries if the dollar isn't the global reserve currency? Something else you said I want to touch on really quickly. You were talking about the spending and revenue. I want to mention that revenue has to be part of this. Our eyes have to be open to raising revenue. You know, I understand that taxes are the bugaboo, the thing that you can never talk about. But look, if we're really going to reform When I talked about, you know, cutting a $2.4 trillion deficit down to zero in four years, you can't do that. All from spending cuts. A lot of that has to come from structural changes to some of these entitlement programs, which may mean slowly, over 30 years, slightly raising retirement ages. It may mean that the Social Security limit of what, 160,000, that's what the tax ends, maybe that's that number has to go up. There's things that have to happen at the high end. I don't want to touch the middle class and the lower class. These people have had it enough. But there's some stuff that's got to happen at the higher end to raise revenues. Anyway, go ahead. I can, I saw that.
Steve Bannon
No, no, come up in. No, no, hang on, hang on, hang on. Just, just. I'm gonna take you through the, take you through the break. Wow. Also, we're going to talk about coffee. I need a cup, I need a cup of, I need a cup of War path right now. Cain's on fire. I think it's my, I think it's my deficit soulmate Cain. This guy's more obsessed about it than I am and I'm pretty obsessed about it. If we didn't have Cain, and Cain had not launched Citizens Free Press, I'm telling you, it's providential. God works in mysterious ways and he works through very imperfect instruments. Remember that lesson for the day. Short commercial break. Back with Cain in a moment. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need done with debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card and loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit donewithdeck. Com Talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, I'm trying to book Tom Fenton for, for Monday because we got to get on. Fenton's up on his Instagram and Facebook and others. I'll be pushing it. We can all over this situation with the deep state, right? And I mean, Fitton's now going nuts. We got to get. I keep, I keep at the speech I gave this morning, the remarks I gave this morning. We've got to get focused on that. It's just not enough happening quickly enough. We need the same urgency. We're doing all these other verticals with. It has to happen and it's not happening. And I don't want to hear where. It's a lot of work going behind scenes. No, there's. You've had enough time for things to come out. And now fitting and others. You saw mtg. People just had enough of this. You got to have. You got to, got to do this. This is the moment in time. We have to do it. So. And here's the reason. And Taj is going to hang out and Kainiac, the great Citizen Kane is going to stick with him a lot more on this spending and taxes and all that in a field of greens. Look, when I do the coffee in the morning, I do my field of greens. Real organic superfood. It's a superfood. You get all your vegetables, you get all your fruits, your necessary requirements organically, not one of these fake powders. This is the real deal. You feel amazing and you get an energy jolt. Fieldagreens.com promo code Bannon get a discount. Make sure you absolutely do this. I'm telling you, it's. It's kind of changed my life because people tell you we're working 18, 20 a day, seven a week here and you got to do something to keep on the edge. It's Field of Greens, the company's spectacular. This product. Spectacular Real organic superfood. Okay? The deep state. This is why we started in Vatican, right? This Vigano's, this interview, if you're not a Catholic, you got to read it because this stuff's all connected. He's the, really the voice of one of the leading voices against Davos. For years he was the ambassador from the Vatican to the United States. He was warning about this for years. About what this kind of party of Davos is the World Economic Forum. He's got an explosive interview. He basically says the Obama administration worked hand in glove to get a left a radical like Bergoglio there because they want to control the Catholic Church is very important. So you've got to read it. The deep state is all over stunningly and they don't care. They talk about democracy and anti democratic. Trump just won a massive victory in November. They try to put him in prison for 700 years and don't think if they don't, when they steal it in 28 or attempt to steal it in 28, if they're able to steal it, they're going to put him back in prison. Don't think we're past this sort of Damocles by any stretch of the imagination and people do. And all the tech bros and running around all is great. You're not facing reality. Bolsonaro. They went at ICU the other day to an ICU unit. The guy had the 12th operation for seven hours or the seventh operation for 12 hours of the assassination attempt to serve him to come back to court because they're going to put him in prison and assassinate him in prison. Le Pen, they just gave a four year prison sentence to four years in Korea. They just had a coup to throw a guy out who is complaining against, wait for it, election fraud. It's so obvious what they're doing. They can't beat us at the ballot box. So now they're using like here. What are they stopping Trump with? They say, well Steve, all this concert, they don't care about the Constitution. They're stopping Trump from his core responsibilities under Article 2. They don't care. They're Marxist radicals. There is no rule of law. It's the rule of the powerful. Of all of these, the most stunning is alternative for Deutschland that the folks, they're trying to save their country and have been right about everything they've said on mass immigration. 100% correct. And their pressure and rise with nothing, with no media and being terrorized by the police. Terrorized because I've been with these people now for 10 years. Terrorized by the police. They've saved their country and broken Merkel and what do they do now that they're rising in the polls? They're the leading party. It's like Nigel Farage in Reform. The leading party in Germany with a real spread between the other parties. Why the German people are sitting there going, we hear what you're saying and we support you. They've just come out with a deep State report to say they're an extremist group and they need not just be shut down, they need to be shut down and jailed. Beatrice Van Stork joins us now from Germany. Ma'am, of all the outrageous things I've seen, and this is people on trial for their lives, like Bolsonaro, this may be the most extreme.
Beatrix von Storch
Yes, I guess so. This is a deep attack against democracy in Germany, and we are very, very grateful. And it has been widely seen that we get support of Machio, Rubio and J.D. vance. That's very helpful. Thank you very much. And maybe we need even more, because the process only starts. They are declared as to be an extremistic organization. This has been done by the government. They always say it's an independent agency, but this is not an independent agency who came to the conclusion that we are an extremistic organization. It's the government, because this agency who came up with this report, with this expert opinion, this is an agency which reports to the Minister of Interior and it has to carry out the government's instructions. And this is what they're doing at the very moment. So declaring us an extremistic organization is the first step to then ban the whole party. And this is what we are facing. And so it's very, very helpful if we get a lot of international support.
Steve Bannon
No, no, we have you back. Let's play. We got a short clip. Let's play how it's being explained to the rest of the world will bring Beatrix back in.
Unknown
A little bit of breaking news coming into us from Germany. The Reuters news agency is reporting that the country's domestic intelligence agency has classified the Alternative for Germany party as an extremist entity that threatens democracy, a move that enables it to better monitor the party which came second, of course, in February's federal election. Now they go on to say that certain factions of the AfD, such as its youth wing, have already been classified as extremists. But the party at large was also classified as a suspected extremist case in 2021. But now the domestic intelligence agency in Germany is classifying the AfD as an extremist entity that threatens democracy.
Steve Bannon
You see how they put it there in that clip? BRITISH accent and you add in Reuters. Right. And it all sounds official that these people are Nazis is what they're saying. Beatrice, we understand what they're doing. This is the deep. And I keep telling people, it's not deep. It's up in your face. And this is up in your face. They say a Threat to democracy. In democracy, you're winning, you're blowing them out with no money, no resources, police pressure all the time, terrorized by state authorities already. This is a populist nationalist uprising saying, hey, we need to save our country. Our country's being overwhelmed. And what we got to save it for is. What we have to save it from is this deep state that's running Germany and running all the politicians. Germany's just de industrialized. The climate policy is a sham, the deindustrialization is a sham. They're kowtowing to the Chinese Communist Party. Ma'am. How do you guys punch your way out of here?
Beatrix von Storch
Well, there are different ways, of course. We will appeal at the courts, what we are currently already doing. But now it's one more reason to do so. Second, we rely on international support. So again, we are very grateful for the support we've gotten from Marco Rubio and from JD Wands and hopefully from President Trump. This has an impact. People are listening. They're debating about this international support in German media. And at the same time, we keep on doing what we do. We work in the parliament, even though they reject us and they try to prevent us to do what we have been voted for into office. They are not even willing to give a room to us in the Parliament so we can have our parliamentary group meetings in a room where everyone fits in so they want. It's just unbelievable. And so, and the next thing, what we have the debate on today is that they are starting to debate to defund AfD so to no longer give the public funds to us, which we have a right to, and all the other parties get the funds as well. So they're trying to destroy us with money. It's really, really. Democracy is at stake. And I think if it's possible to go against the opposition party in Germany, a Western democracy still, if that works out, that will be a precedent for the rest of the world. I mean, we will never be able to blame any other authoritarian regime, any other dictatorship, which is banning the opposition party. If German succeeds in doing so.
Steve Bannon
It's.
Beatrix von Storch
I think one couldn't stress it more. It's very, very severe what's going on here.
Steve Bannon
By the way, your polling is at 20, is at 27%. I mean, it's not like you're some marginal, tiny party like the Greens. You're, you're the leading in the polls. Are you not leading everywhere to the other two establishment parties?
Beatrix von Storch
Ma'am, we had been leading two weeks ago or something, but we are very stable number two. We are number two in the parliament. 150 out of 630 members of parliament. This is the strength of our group. We had 20.8% in the last federal election. And ever since this election took place on 23rd of February, our numbers are going up. The numbers of the running not even yet in charge government, the one who will start taking office on Tuesday, their numbers are going down. And if there would be an election right now, this government, which will be only in office by Tuesday, has already lost their majority. So they really, they always declare they are afraid for our democracy. They are afraid we're losing our democracy. What is true is they are afraid of democracy. They are afraid of having an opposition party gaining French, getting strength, getting more powerful by the day. And they don't have arguments against our policy. So now they're coming up with a government against the opposition party. This is a concept which works in Germany, but of course no other western democracy knows this concept, that the government is able to label the opposition party, to spy on the opposition party, to get the secret service involved in that party and to label it as an extremistic organization to then take the next step and push forward the. The procedure to ban the party as a whole.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, Beatrix, where do people go for social media? Where do, where do people follow you.
Beatrix von Storch
On all social media platforms? Like, like X. That's the biggest, that's the most important one, of course. And Beatrix von Storch or even afd, you can find me on Telegram. I've got a telecom channel on, on Instagram, on TikTok, even though that's, that's currently banned again. And on Facebook, of course.
Steve Bannon
Well, we'll put, as always, one last. We'll get it out. Mo and Grace will put it into the chat rooms. One last thing. Are you in fear of actually being arrested by German authorities right now as a leader of Alternative for Deutschland?
Beatrix von Storch
Well, not arrested at the very moment, but, you know, we are, we are facing severe problems in acting as a Democratic Party. They will not give us the democratic rights we should have in the parliament. We cannot participate 100% in what's going on in the parliament because they will not, you know, get us our vice chairmanships of the parliament. And the committees, they're not letting us into some important committees, so we cannot participate there. So that's one thing we are addressing. But people realize, and when they start, you know, really squeezing us into a room which is not big enough for us to have a group meeting, then the people will see the way they are treating us. They're not treating us, they're treating the voters. We've got millions of voters who are voting in favor of a political shift in Germany, like you had in the US And I think blaming us and going against us is also a response for our support for President Donald Trump. We are the only party openly favoring Donald Trump and, you know, being favorable for the new administration. And our policy is in line with what the Republicans are trying to implement on the United States when it comes to mass migration and others, the World Health Organization and other policy areas. So this is what they want to stop. And they want to stop a movement which is going against this globalist elite politics. What we can see in all the Western states.
Steve Bannon
Beatrice, you're a hero. We've got your back. Thank you very much. We'll make sure everybody pushes out your social media. Thank you so much for coming on with us.
Beatrix von Storch
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Steve, you talk about a hero and tough. Those folks at Alternative for Deutschland, they're heroes and they're tough and they're under siege. As bad as it was for us in those four years. And it was awful. Right? These people are actually getting it worse right now because you read this report, they want to put them in prison for being the leading. Being the leading party in Germany. It could take over very quickly. We get fitting on here on Monday. We're going to go through this because not enough is being done right now in the deep state. I need a cup of coffee like I've never needed it before. Taj, Gil, what do you got for me?
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You drink it black like you're drinking on a navy ship. A combatant. Right. Thank you so much. You get on the navy ship. This is why he takes such long to do it. Does it on the perforated drums. Because it's the champagne coffee. You can drink it black and it tastes amazing. And no acid kickback, no acidity. So you don't have to mask it with cream and sugar and all that. You can drink it like coffee. Supposed to be drinking. Supposed to be taken black. It's amazing. Love this stuff. Cain, you brought up something before the break. You talked about the revenue side. I will tell you. Cain is an entrepreneur. Cain is a capitalist capitalist. Kane is an entrepreneurial capitalist. Cain knows capital markets. Kane is not a soak. The rich aoc Bernie Sanders. So Steven. But we come to the conclusion based upon mathematics that unless there is a change and that change would have to be about either a growth rate that was real and actually at three and a half percent or four percent and maybe we can get there one day but we ain't there today. A growth rate so that more tax revenues came in just on basic growth or significant cuts. And I mean significant cuts. You're going to have a gap. And we. It's not even get to balanced budget. Remember Best since just six and a half percent. We're about seven percent now of of deficit to GDP down to three and a half percent. He didn't even get to a balanced budget. He says let's do that. And right now this is not going to hack it more than ever with this budget with Trump and these guys doing the best job they can. And this is our guy, Russ Vogt. The math's just not there right now. This actual budget cut and it's nothing but a firestorm. The defense guys want more money. The NBC's going. MSNBC is going crazy. New York Times going crazy. We're all barbarians and shutting down arts in humanities and taking food away from people and all that. Right now this makes the case. You're going to have over $2 trillion deficit unless you do not give the tax cut to the upper bracket or create a new bracket of a million bucks and make it 40%. Kane. Or is the mathematics of Citizens Free Press and Kainiac in the war room and Steve Bannon incorrect on that, sir?
Kane
No, it is not incorrect on that, Bannon. This can't be done with spending. This cannot be done with spending cuts alone. Look, we're just talking about non defense discretionary, right? That was the MSNBC freak out that we cut it from 750 to 583,583 million a year. That's chump change. This is nothing, folks. We've got 2.5 trillion and if we have to do it all in spending cuts, then we're going to have to take a meat hatchet to the entitlement programs, which no one wants. So this has to come from a revenue side. I want to tell people who are upset about the idea that Bannon and I are talking about raising revenues understand that when we get this under control, when we get this to a manageable level of debt to GDP or even, God forbid, a balanced budget, then we can really fix things. Then we can come back in and lower some of these tax rates. But until we get there, there is no way that Trump's full 2017 tax cuts can be re implemented. The high end stuff that you're talking about, the new potential millionaires tax that Mike Johnson has already said is dead on arrival. Well, I think he's wrong, number one. But those things have to be on the table. And other revenue, you know, other revenue forms, as I alluded to briefly in the previous segment, look, social Medicare, it's 2.93% on all income. You make 3 million, they're getting 2.93% of it. But as people know, Social Security income taxation is capped at what, 159, 160,000. That's a number that I think could go a little bit higher. So we would tax Social Security on slightly higher incomes. And then as I said, you know, the great, the thing you're not supposed to talk about, but I would do it very slowly and cautiously over 30 years, I would raise the retirement age of Social Security by another three, getting it to 70. So that means every 10 years it goes up one year. So this is not going to hurt people who are really close. But these are the kind of Solutions that have to be on the table. And the last thing I'll say, Ben, before I throw it back to you, I think Trump needs to appoint a deficit czar. Look, somebody who will, who will get make a national address from the oval office every three months. This is a winning formula for 2028. Independents and even Democrats know that the national debt is a huge problem. So if you make that one of sort of the tenets, one of this MAGA party is willing to do the difficult things and appoint a deficit czar and talk to the American people three months about the cuts that have to happen and maybe the changes in entitlements.
Steve Bannon
Get there the only person. And look, you're not going to get into entitlement. So you show that you do the discretionary. We have to do this look, the addition the tax cuts by extending it for the middle class and the 17 cuts for the middle class and working class plus no tax on tips, no tax on overtime and no tax on Social Security for the middle class and working class. That's somehow got to be financed. This is the biggest tax cut for middle class and working class people in history. And it's gotta be presented like that. The only person that could be the tax czar from the Oval is only one person. It's Donald Trump. This is Trump. This is Trump's. Only Trump can explain it to the American people. Only Trump. Only Trump's gonna have the credibility that the American people believe. All the issues about entitlements to me can't get done until you've solved this thing for the discretionary. Cuz we're a long way from solving it. The 570 down to 595. That cuts a 23% cut on non defense discretionary. The firestorm you're about to see over the weekend on the Sunday shows and next week is like President Trump, this is the Visigoths outside of Rome and 400 and are about to burn the city. Right. You watch. And this is where I keep saying about the convergence of deportations with these cuts. They're gonna have cameras in front of every little kid's face saying, you know, Trump's taking away my toys on tariffs and trade from China and now he's taking away my school lunch program. It's gonna be a firestorm. Kaine, I know you got a bolt. You're amazing. Where do people go for citizens? Free press. How did they get there? How they usually get about a minute.
Kane
Yeah. Bannon, you're look, what you just said is out of the you're gonna see crying like you've never seen it before. These people are freaked out about 163 billion. How would they possibly deal with 600 billion in cuts that we need to sort of do every year? In terms of finding me, look, go to. Go to Citizen Free Press. I am there from about 8 in the morning until 2 in the morning. I have no other life. I've given it all up for the stack. Hopefully that's gonna change. I'm gonna get some help, but just go there. It loads in half a second. There are no ads and it's ready to go. And you can find me, obviously, on Twitter. Bannon, I'm going to say, you know, you're my brother in arms on this. We think the same. I enjoy joining you once every six months to beat the hell out of the Washington establishment. And I look forward to the next time. And Republicans, I want Congress, anybody in Congress, Republican side, Who's listening? Look, the American people are ready for this. And President Trump, we are ready for you to give us speeches every three months on how we're going to get to a balanced budget. And with that, I say goodbye. Love to the War Room posse.
Steve Bannon
One last thing, Kane, I've known you now for a number of years. Kane always tells me I'm about to hire some people so I can take some time off. It's never he said, this guy's a bigger control freak than I am. Kane, we love you, brother. Take care.
Kane
All right. Take care.
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Steve Bannon
So I'll be up all weekend on social media, on getter. We're going to be putting a ton of stuff up. A lot of work happening over the weekend and the president. Now you got the budget, that skinny budget. They're going to come with more depth, but you got the House working on these different appropriations processes. The Senate's doing their thing the next 100 days. These hundred days we're in are going to define the direction this goes. This is more important than the 100 day start. 100 day start. We had years to prep and get ready and kind of have muzzle velocity and bang, bang, bang, flood the zone. This is now where there are forces of resistance. Institutionally, you know, you kind of run these guys keep momentum and you got to keep momentum. But now you're getting into it. Remember the three verticals. One, end the Kinetic Wars. Two, make sure you can seal the border and deport 10 million and you're making massive progress on both of those. And number three, get into the middle of the trade, the commerce, the economy, the how you finance it, the deficit, all of that, which is enormously complicated, many moving pieces. So now it's full engagement and we're going to see, we're going to win. It's just going to be, I tell folks, it's going to be quite gnarly, quite gnarly. This has kind of gone from the revolutionary generation to the foundation of the country. Remember, Trump is like Washington and Lincoln in the fact of the three great presidents, both at the birth of the nation, the rebirth of the nation under President Lincoln, the now rejuvenation and restoration of the nation under President Trump. All those kind of go from one sort of almost like a revolutionary to a new Stacy of It's like the revolutionary generation versus the founding generation. They're slightly different, some same players, a lot of different players. That's where we are today. Also about being divisive and uniting that great presidents unite. That's only in the judgment of history. At the time, Washington was quite divisive. Why he was leading a revolutionary army that only about one third the people Max actually supported. Don't, don't fool yourself that there was overwhelming support for the revolution. Kind of at the beginning, you had one third Admirally opposed, which are the Tories here in this country? Americans or, you know, all of them were British subjects when they started, but people that were Tories and he had one third in the middle, like in life, like he got in the United States. Now they're going to kind of figure it out, who wins, and they'll jump on the side and get to the front of the parade and wave the flag. Isn't this great? They're only with you if you win. Right. And they're getting you if you lose. That's from President Trump. That's where this movement. That's where you as a revolutionary vanguard. Because you are a revolutionary vanguard. So. So much going on. Make sure Birch Gold this weekend. Homework assignment. The Rio Reset. Seven free installments. Download it all, start to absorb it all. Even if you don't understand it the first couple times through, that's fine. Just get the nomenclature and the ideas and just. Just what the sound of the words are. It'll make more sense over time. I think we've made it accessible enough for everybody. It's now taught in college finance courses for undergraduate finance, which we're very proud of because we kind of wrote at that level. But remember, we don't lower the bar here. We raise the bar. We make you stretch. We make you reach. Why, you're better when you stretch. You're better when you reach. We're not here to dumb down television for you. We're not here to dumb down information for you. Look at today, the complexity of the issues we talked about today. But you understand it and you can act upon it and it interconnects what's going on in the world. Because we want to make your world bigger. Just like if you join our movement, particularly if you get a little older and you say, hey, my world's narrowing, my friends, my relationships. I'm more shut in. I'm more cut off. Once you join it, things open up. You'll meet people you never thought you'd meet, connections you never thought you'd make. Parts of the country that you know, parts of the world that you would know. The same thing with the information. We're here to give you information, to expand your world, to give it more so that you can have a depth of experience in it and understand it better, understand the way things work. Mike Lindell. We're wrapping up here on a Saturday. It's been an incredible Saturday. Want to thank everybody at Real America's Voice. Make it all the way from Vatican to Germany to Berlin to tie it all Together. Mike Lindell. I need a pair of sheets. Where do I go, sir?
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Summary of Episode 4460: "Germany Labels AfD An Extremist Organization" – Bannon’s War Room
Release Date: May 3, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
In Episode 4460 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the recent decision by German authorities to classify the Alternative for Germany (AfD) as an extremist organization. This move marks a significant escalation in efforts to curb populist nationalist movements across Europe. The episode features insightful discussions with financial expert Kane and an exclusive interview with Beatrix von Storch, a leading figure from the AfD. Additionally, Bannon and his team analyze the broader implications of such actions on global democracy and the United States' economic stability.
At [20:55], Beatrix von Storch joins the War Room to address the German government's recent declaration of AfD as an extremist entity. This classification paves the way for the potential banning of the party, a move that von Storch argues is a direct assault on democratic principles in Germany.
Notable Quote:
“Declaring us an extremist organization is the first step to then ban the whole party. And this is what we are facing.”
— Beatrix von Storch [22:05]
Von Storch elaborates on the systemic efforts by German authorities to suppress the AfD, highlighting the use of governmental power to undermine opposition parties. She emphasizes the need for international support to combat what she perceives as an overreach against legitimate political discourse.
Bannon draws parallels between Germany's actions against the AfD and similar attempts to suppress populist leaders elsewhere, such as Marine Le Pen in France and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. He underscores a global trend where establishment forces target nationalist movements to maintain political stability.
Notable Quote:
“It's not deep. It's up in your face. They say a threat to democracy.”
— Steve Bannon [22:12]
Bannon argues that labeling AfD as extremist is a tactic used by governments to eliminate opposition, thereby stifling democratic debate and maintaining the status quo.
A significant portion of the episode features an in-depth discussion between Bannon and financial expert Kane on the United States' burgeoning national debt and fiscal deficits.
[00:02:51] Bannon criticizes the US government's increasing debt, noting it has ballooned from just over $2 trillion thirty-eight years ago to a staggering $37 trillion, accumulating at roughly $1 trillion every hundred days.
Notable Quote:
“It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?”
— Steve Bannon [00:02]
[02:50] Kane explains the US's dependence on short-term Treasury bonds (three-month to two-year) to finance its debt, making the country vulnerable to bond market fluctuations and increasing interest rates.
Notable Quote:
“The most important thing people need to watch in financial markets isn't the stock market... but the bond market and how it handles these weekly treasury auctions.”
— Kane [02:50]
[07:47] The conversation shifts to the US's trade deficits with countries like Japan and China. Kane discusses how foreign ownership of US debt grants these nations significant leverage over US monetary policies, posing risks to national sovereignty.
Notable Quote:
“Foreign bond traders and foreign governments can essentially control our political decisions because we need them to buy our debt.”
— Kane [07:48]
[10:22] Bannon warns that the US’s financial instability could lead to increased control by international capital markets, diminishing American autonomy in economic decisions.
Notable Quote:
“The control of our nation is about to go from the hands in the 100% decisions of Americans... to the international capital markets.”
— Steve Bannon [10:22]
[37:39] Kane and Bannon discuss potential solutions to mitigate the fiscal crisis, including significant spending cuts and revenue enhancements. They advocate for raising taxes on the wealthy and restructuring entitlement programs to ensure long-term fiscal sustainability.
Notable Quote:
“We have to do this... it's the biggest tax cut for middle class and working class people in history... Only Trump can explain it to the American people.”
— Steve Bannon [40:24]
Beatrix von Storch provides a firsthand account of the challenges faced by the AfD in Germany. She details the governmental strategies aimed at weakening the party through financial restrictions and limited parliamentary access.
Notable Quotes:
“They are declared as to be an extremistic organization is the first step to then ban the whole party.”
— Beatrix von Storch [22:05]
“This has been done by the government. They always say it's an independent agency, but this is not an independent agency...”
— Beatrix von Storch [22:05]
Von Storch emphasizes the importance of international solidarity and legal avenues to resist the ban, asserting that such measures threaten democratic norms not just in Germany but globally.
The episode underscores the interconnectedness of global political movements and economic policies. Bannon posits that actions against populist parties like the AfD are symptomatic of a broader attempt by established powers to suppress democratic dissent.
Notable Quote:
“If German succeeds in doing so, we will never be able to blame any other authoritarian regime... if any other dictatorship... which is banning the opposition party.”
— Beatrix von Storch [25:53]
Bannon further connects these international developments to the US's internal struggles with debt and economic policies, suggesting that both scenarios reflect a deeper antagonism towards populist and nationalist movements challenging the established order.
In this episode, Bannon’s War Room meticulously explores the ramifications of Germany's action against the AfD, drawing insightful connections to similar global trends and the United States' financial predicaments. Through engaging dialogue and expert analysis, Bannon and his guests highlight the existential threats posed by entrenched political and financial interests striving to maintain control over democratic processes and national economies.
Final Notable Quote:
“We need to keep momentum. But now you're getting into it... this has kind of gone from the revolutionary generation to the foundation of the country.”
— Steve Bannon [32:53]
The episode serves as a call to action for supporters of populist movements, urging vigilance and resilience in the face of systemic attempts to undermine democratic and economic sovereignty.
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