
Episode 4461: Stopping All Funding On Foreign Wars ...
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Steve Bannon
All of the changes that President Trump is making to our government and our democracy are shocking, but should not come as a surprise. Remember this? Almost all of it, from the attacks on abortion rights to the gutting of the civil service, to the dismantling of the Department of Education, it was all spelled out very clearly in Project 2025. It was always accessible to the public. We knew what was in it, we knew who was writing it, and we knew what they were planning. We knew that the architects of it were drafting executive orders in anticipation of Trump's victory. We knew they were training a new class of political appoint to outmaneuver checks and balances. Only 104 days into his presidency, Donald Trump has already pushed through dozens of Project 2025 policies that we warned about on this show last year. Logical design, right? It's not supposed to be. We're doing what the public wants in the sense of, you know, we have done focus grouping and we figured out what the thing is that we're trying to maximize in order to, like, be most popular. It's that they believe they have a once in a generation attempt to revolutionize. Excuse me, revolutionize the structure of the American government to move it into something that more closely resembles something like Viktor Orban's regime in Hungary. I don't think they would explicitly say this, but if you look at the policy details as they're laid out, the end result of it is something that very much does resemble what political scientists might call a competitive authoritarian regime, one in which the opposition is playing on fundamentally loaded playing grounds. And that is what's happening right now. Granted, they're doing it very badly. If I were a foreign autocrat, I'd be a little bit embarrassed to say that these people are following my playbook, but that is, nonetheless what they're attempting. What do you say to those who.
Donald Trump
Believe you are taking the country down an authoritarian path?
Steve Bannon
Well, there you go again. Why don't you ask it a different way? Many people wanted to come into our country. Many people love Trump. I won the election. They didn't win the election. I got a lot more votes than they did. I got. I won the popular vote. I won all seven swing states by a lot. A lot of people were surprised. I said, I think he could win four, maybe five. No, I won all seven. And I won by a lot. And I won, actually. I think there was a lot of hanky panky going on, but it was too big to rig. That's the good news. It's too big to rig. But let me just say so when you make these statements about people, say this people, well, you know, they had their chance at the election and they lost big. So you should ask the question differently. You should say, what about the people that want to be in this country? What about the people that love this country? But what are you saying? Say, I'm asking it on behalf of those people to give you a chance to respond to them.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
What do you say to those people, sir?
Steve Bannon
Those people are going to be very happy. They're going to have to see some results. And I think we had a great hundred days. There are a lot of people that say it was unprecedented. It was an Absolutely unprecedented 100 days. And I hope that they're going to be right. There's a thing called unitary executive theory. There's the destruction of the administrative state, some of which the Supreme Court has helped with. These are concepts of governing that Project 2025 is underpinned by. And Zach's right, people don't think about these things. They literally don't think about these things. So when you dismantle usaid, they're only a small group of people who actually protest that. Even when you dismantle things that matter to Americans, like the National Institutes of Health and their funding of universities, people don't realize that the medication that they get to cure the diseases they don't even need, that they don't even know they're going to get, are funded by the government. But it's conceptual reframing of how the American government runs. How badly can that go? In other words, can the next president just undo this stuff and fix it?
Donald Trump
Zach is totally right, and he can.
Steve Bannon
I mean, I think one of the things that makes Project 2025 so important and so influential is they have thought deeply about how to make permanent changes to the structure of government. And, you know, you can roll back.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Executive orders, you can try to restore.
Steve Bannon
Funding for things, but you're not going to bring back the brain drain.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
You're not going to restart the things.
Steve Bannon
That are going on.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
So I think the government that the.
Steve Bannon
Next president inherits is going to very different from the one that Trump did on January 20th.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
If you had one piece of advice to give President Trump or this administration, what is that?
Steve Bannon
Triple down. Just make it. Make every day more intense than the day before. You're on the right track. You've got the right policies, you've got the right people. Obviously, today the National Security Advisor, you're going to make changes directionally. You're right. You're fighting, you're on the side of righteousness. I think you've seen this Trump. ISI can tell you having a front row seat to this 16 was providential. That was the hand of God. We had a plane, we had a jet, a man, a message. We had no organization, no money. That was the American people stepping and say, I want this guy. This guy's different. I've heard enough of the Clintons. I've heard enough of the Bushes. I've heard enough of this crap. I want to give this guy a shot. The stealing of the 2020 election, the pandemic, and the Stalin of the 2020 election was also the hand of God. At the time, it didn't seem that, but if we had gone right into a second term, it had been like trench warfare. It had been like the Western front in World War II or World War I. Just two sides dug in and they kind of had Trump surrounded. God's hand worked that we would step back, right, and put it on the burden on MAGA and the burden on his followers to make sure you had his back and did the precinct strategy and all things you had to do to make sure you were there for him and if he committed to do it, that we would drive to victory. But it showed us how these Democrats are not traditional Democrats. You think these people are neo Marxists, right? They're autocrats. They were trying to destroy people. They're using the pandemic to destroy people. They're using the government to destroy people. They ran this thing like you run, like the Stasi ran East Berlin. That was all revealed to us. Plus, we had the time. We had the time to regroup. Trump had the time to think. We had the time to put the project 2025s and the center for Renewing America. We had the time to think through what we had to do with the Chinese Communist Party, what to do with these things. You had those four years of preparation. How do you think, you know, I gave this interview to PBS after I left the first time. I said, hey, you know, flood the zone. Here is our strategy to have two or three things every day. So they would bite on one. And we drive. We're doing a dozen of 15 a day. What I would tell the President and his team, urgency, action, intensity. Every day when you got an enemy on the run, you keep them on a run. Never, never take the foot off the pedal. No gas, no, no. Don't let them retreat. Run the tables and continue. Run the tables and let's break this globalist that run this, that run the imperial capital here in Washington, D.C. because victory's at hand. We just got to keep pounding down. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
MAGA I wish in my soul, I.
Steve Bannon
Wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Monday, the 5th of May, year of our Lord 2025. Kind of explosive news over the weekend because it's made the lead in Fox News. Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia had a couple amazing tweets over the weekend. Kind of make the case of exactly where we stand at the end of the hundred days, beginning the second hundred, the most dangerous. Congressman Green is in the House this morning. Thank you so much for coming.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Good to be here, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Getting here early because it's all kicking off today in the House. Your first off, Fox is making a huge deal of this. Everybody's making a huge deal of this. Now you see a wedge coming between the base and President Trump. Nothing be further from the truth.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's a lie.
Steve Bannon
But, but you were a truth teller of exactly what has been some of the focus and what you think needs to be the focus while you put this tweet out. Was it Friday or Saturday?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I believe it was Saturday morning.
Steve Bannon
Saturday morning. Because we, I saw it right after the show. We put it up.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
No, Friday morning. It was Friday morning. Yep.
Steve Bannon
So walk us through it.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well, basically, it's a complete lie.
Steve Bannon
Denver, if you can, if you can put it up, too. I want to put up her actual tweet right there.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
There. It's a lie. There is no wedge between the base and President Trump. The wedge is between Congress and the establishment Republicans that are undermining the president's agenda. And also anyone that gets in the president's ear and is lying to him about what he should be doing. You know, here's the real issue. This country rose up in a, in a historic way, something that we haven't seen in our lifetime. Steve, and delivered a mandate and that mandate was to the Republican Party. The mandate was President Trump's agenda. The American people said, no, we're done with the, the old Republican Party ways. We are rejecting the Democrat Party's policies. We are embracing make America great again. Maga, America first. Maha, no more foreign wars. This whole populist movement supporting America and American workers and American companies and American interests in solving American problems. That's what November 2024 was about. And Washington, as usual, is tone deaf and has not heard the message. What we saw is all these Republicans that rejected Trump, fought Trump in his first administration, you know, networks, even like Fox News, that did not support the President and didn't Support him in 2021 and 2022, part of 2023, and didn't support him until they realized they had.
Steve Bannon
To support him late on the evening of the 5th of November, 2024.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Right.
Steve Bannon
About 10 o'clock at night when Pennsylvania and Michigan fell.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
All of a sudden they got on board.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Exactly.
Steve Bannon
Talk to people about how this place works, because you've had the most interesting journey. You came in as a MAGA Trump fire breather immediately, and then you were banned by your own, by the Republican Party being even on committees. So you went out and became a media figure and taking the MAGA message to the people, you've been President Trump's closest supporter. Now we're at the end of the first hundred days and you're seeing some basic building blocks that the Republican Party won't get in back of him on. Or they have their own kind of globalist, particularly in national security, of what they want to accomplish. How can these guys up there think they exist without Trump and his base?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well, here's the issue. Never forget, I got here on my own with the people. I didn't get elected with the President's endorsement. I fought through a primary and a runoff and I won. And I won a general election. President Trump endorsed me then, but I already won the general election anyways. I would have won even without it. I'm here because I genuinely believe and I'm fighting for what I believe in. And what I believe in is what most Americans believe in. So when I am. When I am making a call to action, and it's always early, I'm an early indicator. But when I'm making a call to action, people better pay attention. And here's the issue, Steve, is they think they can manipulate the President, but you can't manipulate the base. You can't manipulate the base. And continuing to pursue the war in Ukraine it's really a proxy war against Russia. The CIA has been running it the entire time. And it started years ago.
Steve Bannon
You've asked and demanded, and I thought a condition precedent of these funding things were you demanded a simple audit. Have you seen, have you seen the odd. This is four years ago now, three years ago. Have you seen the audit?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
No, I haven't.
Steve Bannon
I thought they promised in the House. You kind of filibustered for a while and said, we're not going to prove that. You had a bunch of people voting with you, Gates in that crowd.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
And you guys, they committed to do a basic audit. And now President Trump is saying $350 billion. Other people are saying 250. There's a big spread, but nobody knows where the money went.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's because nobody knows. And the Pentagon has failed its audit every single year, over and over. The money's been stolen. This is pure money laundering. Our weapons have been stolen and sold to our enemies. Zelensky canceled elections in Ukraine. They silenced people's First Amendment rights. You know what else they did? They silenced Christians rights. This has been. And this is not democracy in Ukraine. It's everything, the opposite of democracy. And I'm outraged to find out today. And read the details. Read the details of the agreement signed with Ukraine. That ensures the. Listen to this, ensures the security, prosperity and reconstruction of Ukraine. And the American people are tied in for. There's no end date to this. The American people are not responsible for what happened in Ukraine. The American people did not bomb Ukraine. The American people did not murder Ukrainians. The American people should not be on the hook. On the hook for their security, prosperity and reconstruction. Let's talk about reconstruction. How about California? How about where the California fires have destroyed so many homes? How about Georgia and North Carolina on the hurricane, 100%. How about reconstructing Americans homes? What about Lahaina? We can go down the list. We can talk about every hurricane. We can talk about every natural disaster in America. How about, let's talk about reconstructing American lives from the drug pandemic that has been forced on this nation by the Mexican cartels. How about that one? And when I listen, when I look on social media and I see threats to. We're going to bomb Iran, but then we're going to ask permission from the Mexican president. If we can go in and take out the cartels that are murdering Americans every single day. I'm sorry, this is not what resonates with the American people. They scream hypocrisy.
Steve Bannon
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
This is the opposite of what we said. It's the opposite of what we promised. We said no more foreign wars. We said, enough with Ukraine. We're going to end that war. Enough of the bloodshed. People have been. Too many people have been slaughtered. It's wiping out an entire generation of young men, husbands, wives, people's brothers, sons. It's horrific. However, we just sent weapons to Ukraine. That's the opposite of what we said. That's the opposite of what I said and that's the opposite of what the President said on the campaign trail. And this minerals deal that was signed is not in the best interest for America.
Steve Bannon
President Trump said he was pretty, he was pretty reluctant to do this, but he said if we somehow get our money back, we'll try to do this.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
We can't get our money back. That's like saying that going into Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction, saying that oil in the Middle east will pay America. Well, we're $36 trillion in debt today. That really wasn't a good deal. We're not going to get our money back by spending a fortune in Ukraine with security, military and mining their rare earth minerals. That's not going to pay us back. Afghanistan. You know what, Steve? Let's not ignore the fact that we abandoned rare earth mineral mines in Afghanistan, that we spent 20 years building the infrastructure for those mines.
Steve Bannon
Trillion dollars.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
China owns those now. This is, this is the reality that should be a write off. You know what? When you have a failed product launch in a business, you write off the loss and you move on and make a profit.
Steve Bannon
If the base is opposed to these, why is it that the Hill overwhelmingly supports these actions you just talked about? They're in President Trump's ear all the time. Plus the Republican establishment and the national security and finance part of the establishment is all for this, all of this too. And they surround President Trump and in Israel all the time. How can there be this, this separation from the elected officials that the MAGA base voted for and put in here in the policies that they ran on?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well, you know, I think, I don't think President Trump wanted this deal. I think there's, there's a massive amount of people here in Washington that make money on these deals. This is going to make a lot of people rich mining rare earth minerals in Ukraine. Now let's, let's face the reality though, Steve. There are minerals that we need. America definitely needs rare earth minerals, but it's my belief that we can find them either right here in the United States on federal lands.
Steve Bannon
We just need to process them.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
We just need to release the land and mine for them.
Steve Bannon
Rare earth is essentially dirt, right? There's plenty of it. We got it here.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Plenty of it here, everywhere. And that will make America rich. American jobs, American companies, American mining. This is how you put America first. So I'm just, I'm sorry, I'm not on page with this. I support the President with all my heart, but I'm not on page with this. And I won't vote to fund a single bullet or penny to Ukraine. I'm personally not going to do it. I'm not going to be on the hook for that.
Steve Bannon
Over the weekend, talk about the House, there was this bill and you're a Bible believing Christian, correct?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
100% from the first page to the last.
Steve Bannon
And you've been a supporter of Israel this weekend. Talk to me about this bill that, that some of the biggest supporters of Israel, Gates, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon and parts of the Bannon operation, the worm operation mtg, were adamantly opposed to coming out of the House.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
We're defending freedom. This is an anti Semitism that we are. We're not pushing that. We don't promote it. We don't want to have anything to do with it. We don't want hate for any people for their identity, rights, religion, whatever. Here's the situation. This bill is promoting anti Semitism in America, Steve, and I'll tell you why. Because when Americans see another country, any country and their interests constantly being pushed and promoted here in Washington D.C. before the American people's interest and the things they voted for are being voted on on the House floor, that is driving anti Semitism.
Steve Bannon
Is that why one of the reasons people under 40 or it's like 90, 10 now don't support Israel is that the, is this one of the reasons.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I can't speak for that, I have no idea. But I'll just tell you, it's black and white and simple. We're not gonna. I'm not. I'm sure plenty of my Republican colleagues were going to. But I am not going to vote on a bill that tells Americans or American companies who they can buy and who they can boycott. Because in America, you have the freedom to buy and boycott whoever you want. Steve, whether I agree with it or not, people hate on me every day. They give me death threats every single day. They say lies about me every single day. And I still defend their freedom to do that. That's called the First Amendment. And I'm completely opposed to a bill that would push international court and international laws on Americans. And that's what that bill was going to do. That's why I oppose it. However, there's a lot of people in America that are sick and tired of saying, I don't want to fight Israel's wars. I don't want to have to constantly support Israel's interests. And that is what is driving anti Semitism in America. And it's wrong. It's completely wrong. Here's if we just do our job and our job and what we campaigned on is, was putting America first. And it's so simple. But in the House, House, I have yet to see President Trump's executive orders en masse being voted on. We hardly have seen that. I have yet to see rescissions, doge cuts made permanent. And I haven't seen our reconciliation bill done. And let me tell you what a big deal that is, Steve. In Joe Biden's first 100 days, Nancy Pelosi got 11 bills to his desk, and that included the Democrats, Democrats reconciliation bill. They had it done in the first 100 days. President Trump's first 100 days, Steve, we got five. And we got a cr, a Biden Democrat cr to President Trump's desk that he should have never been half to force to endorse, and I should have never been forced to have to have a.
Steve Bannon
We're going to have a $2 trillion deficit this year, fiscal year, because we're off of Biden's numbers. I want to go back of the 130Some executive orders, which will leave whenever President Trump, which will go, the next president, has the ability to either enforce them. Right. You're saying you want to see those codified. You have not seen any movement in the House to codify most of his executive orders.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's right. We have a Republican controlled House. We have a Republican controlled Senate. Now we do have the 60 vote problem in the Senate, but is it.
Steve Bannon
No interest in the, at least in the House you can get this rolling and make it a political issue.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
If every Republican understands the mandate in the House, they should have no problem voting for all these executive orders. After all, this is what we campaigned on.
Steve Bannon
This is my point. That's the separation. President Trump's action coming from the executive, not followed up by the legislative.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Every single one of President Trump's orders, Executive orders are temporary unless the House codifies them into law. Every single one of them are temporary. Every single thing we fought for for the past four years, every single dollar donated, every single door knocked, every single vote cast will be thrown away unless Republicans codify these things into law.
Steve Bannon
Let's go to the money side. President Trump and I was with the CRA guys over the weekend and they not going to go forward with impoundments because the House says we're going to do rescissions first. Where are the rescissions?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I haven't seen them. Here's the situation. Rescissions, there's no excuses pass the House and you need only a majority in the Senate. You only have 51 votes. That's not a 60 vote margin. Rescissions are easy.
Steve Bannon
And we could have hundreds of billions of dollars of rescissions right now. Correct?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's right. We could easily do that in America. Want. America supports Doge. Americans support this.
Steve Bannon
So there's no action coming from the House at all to codify those cuts?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I haven't seen them. I held an explosive hearing as the, as the chair of the Doge Committee. Absolutely. On NPR and pbs. We should have seen a rescission the very next week. President Trump had to write an executive order defunding NPR and pbs. This is a no brainer. Why haven't we seen that? Voted on the House floor. Why haven't we seen that go to the Senate?
Steve Bannon
What came off of your committee? It seemed like House could just turn around and just do it. President Trump's head blew up everybody's when they saw it.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
That's why he waited long enough and finally said, I'll sign an executive order.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
And do you know what Republic, you know what people across the country would have done? Good job, Republicans. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Finally.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
But we had nothing.
Steve Bannon
And I want to hang on. We're going to talk about reconciliation. We get back. Can you stay for another segment?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene in the House, by the way. In the House here. What, What Action. Are you going to demand they take today when you get back up to walk across street to the Capitol?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Well we don't gather up until 6:30 for votes so I don't really get to demand anything today.
Steve Bannon
By the way, I looked at the schedule. You guys are not here that much between now and the fourth of July break.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
To get to here this week and then two more weeks after that. We have a Memorial Day week off. We're back. I think three to four, three and a half weeks in June.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, yeah, but it's not a lot of time.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Not a lot of time.
Steve Bannon
Did you take this much time off when you ran?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Never. Never.
Steve Bannon
You're a seven day a week.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Seven days a week. Seven days a week, boys and girls. That's what everybody watching the show understands.
Steve Bannon
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
Not chaired. I was on the subcommittee, but it.
Steve Bannon
Was like you were the chair. You kind of took it over. Talk to me about cdc, Wuhan lab, Fauci, China reparations, this whole thing. You guys found tremendous information, incredible hearings where we. Where are we with that?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
It's hilarious to watch the New York Times come out and try to tell the truth about COVID Steve, here's the situation. Let's look at the dynamic of the people that voted for the president and Republicans in November 2024. A very important part of this segment is the maha movement. And RFK Jr gets incredible.
Steve Bannon
Make America help. If you merge Maha and maga, you have a.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
That's how we won.
Steve Bannon
It's like Exactly. It's like 19, 1932. You govern forever.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
One hundred and so many Americans that, that were against the COVID lockdowns, against the forced masking, especially of their children in schools, against the COVID vaccine. And now are outraged that why haven't we seen the CDC pull the COVID vaccine off the childhood vaccine schedule? Healthy children do not need a COVID vaccine. Covid vaccines are responsible for millions and deaths and vaccine injuries. Myocarditis, carditis is all documented. And many Americans are saying, where's the accountability? When are we going to see justice for this? When are we going to see Fauci prosecuted? Well, we, we can't lie. We have to recognize the fact that Joe Biden gave Fauci a pardon. There is that to deal with. So you can't just go in there blind and say, damn it, arrest him. That why isn't that happening? There is that pardon.
Steve Bannon
But you're calling for a formal investigation? Has to start.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
100. It has to start. And, and look, now we've got China trying to blame the United States of America for, for COVID 19. Well, yeah, we can be really honest about the gain of function and the money that was funded to the Wuhan Lab. We can't ignore those facts. All of that is real and have.
Steve Bannon
To address in front of the American people. American people don't know this.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
And the American people do know it. And see, that's where the dishonesty is repulsive. And the American people are.
Steve Bannon
The CDC's in Georgia, in Atlanta. Correct.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
CDC is.
Steve Bannon
What do you want to see in the cdc? Reorganization. Refocus. What?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
The number one thing I want to see is, I want to see the CDC pull the COVID vaccine off the childhood vaccine schedule. As a matter of fact, that childhood vaccine schedule is terrifying.
Steve Bannon
The amount of 60 vaccines or something.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
72, 72 or 74. I'm not sure on that number, but I know it's, it's very high. And the autism rates are off the charts. And this is, this is, this is, this is.
Steve Bannon
You support RFK and what he's doing on the new re. Rethinking through the, the vaccine protocols and the vaccine research.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I saw. I support him 100%, but I say move faster. There's, there's one that there's no excuse on. Take the COVID 19 vaccine off the childhood vaccine schedule. We don't need research. There's plenty of research already there.
Steve Bannon
Let's talk about reconciliation. We got time for spending and cuts. So we were told we had to take Biden's budget, Nancy Pelosi's budget. You've been fighting this for years. I remember in the middle of the night, you were at the subcommittees or in the House fighting like usaid. USAID and Republicans were voting. The majority of the committees that we controlled, you, Eli Crane, Matt Gaetz, 3:00 in the morning, fighting it and the Republicans. So now, right now, I had a.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Bill to defund the entire thing. I think Eli Crane's was half of it. Mine was defund the whole thing, throw it away. It's nothing but a spy apparatus that does regime change in foreign countries and fake news everywhere. It's like, why funded a penny?
Steve Bannon
So President Trump's come forward. $163 billion already. People are in an uproar or that's too much, you're going to end everything. The Pentagon's at a trillion bucks. What is your general thinking as the big beautiful bill spending part starts to work its way through the committees and starts to work its way back to the general House floor. What are your thinkings on, what are your thoughts on spending right now?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I love the military. My dad was a Vietnam combat veteran that honorably served in Vietnam. I love every men and women that serve our nation. But our military budget is too high. Everybody's sick of the foreign cars.
Steve Bannon
You come from one of the most patriotic parts of this country, you better bet.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yes.
Steve Bannon
And what are those, what do you constituents say about the Pentagon spending?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Oh, they're sick of it. The Pentagon's failed an audit every single year over and over and over again. People from my district, you know where, you know who they are. They're veterans that aren't getting help from the va. They're veterans that, that suffer from all kinds of health problems throughout the. Because of their military service, where they were sent in the world because of what they were exposed to. And they're, they're like, why can't, why can't we get help? Why is our suicide rate so high? Why do we wait so long for doctor's appointments? That's what I hear from people in my district. I don't hear, Listen to the. Steve, I was joking about this weekend. I was like, you know, I could go down to Waffle House and go, hey, Jimmy, Jimmy, you seen any houthies in here? Hey, I could go down to Walmart and go, hey, hey, Eileen, you seen any hoofies? Are they down on aisle nine? You know what? I could, I swear to you, I swear to you, I could go down there and go to the barbecue restaurant in downtown Rome and go, look, hey, y'all see any Russians, Any Russians killing Americans in here? No. The answer is no. People in my district. And I'll argue this is the general feeling. And pretty much most of America is, they're like, we don't care. We don't care. But I can tell you what I do know is that every emergency room across America, every single night, has people coming in because they're overdosing on drugs. And those drugs come from the cartels. Those come from the cartels. So if we're going to put up on truth Social, that we're just going to go bomb Iran, why are we not doing the same thing with the cartels in Mexico? Because that's who's murdering Americans. That's who's killing Americans.
Steve Bannon
President Trump said on the plane on the way back last night he's not waiting for the Mexican president She says, hey, he offered military assistance. She turned it down. Down. Your thought? What would you tell the president?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I think President Trump is being very diplomatic and he's giving the president of Mexico. And look, let's be real honest. The Mexican people don't want to be controlled by the cartels. Look at what happens to horrors in Mexico. Human trafficking, child trafficking, unbelievably violent deaths, the kinds that we only see on movies. And they're in its horrific. I think Mexico, I think the Mexican people, if they had their choice, Steve, they want to be great economic trade partners with the United States. The Mexican people are Christians. They don't want to be controlled by organizations that make their money on the blood, the death and the drug addiction of Americans. That's repulsive. And I can't imagine that the president of Mexico supports that either. However we're going to come to, there needs to be a line in the sand. And I know the American people have said enough. I've talked to enough mothers and fathers in my district who had teenagers overdose on fentanyl because they didn't know that's what they were taking. They thought they were taking a little pill to get high at some party, but yet then their teenage daughter is dead hours later after she comes home and they find her in her cold body in the morning like, that's the cartels. That's who our enemy is.
Steve Bannon
Pivot to spending. How we're going to afford to pay for this? The tax cuts you support, I take it? The Additional, besides the 17 tax cuts being permanent for middle class and working class, also no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. How does that playing in your district or people realize that these things are.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
On the table massively? I talked to a police officer at the airport yesterday in Atlanta and he told me that he's allowed to take 80 hours of overtime per month. He would love to take all of it. But you want to know something? It's a tax penalty if he takes more than about 20 to 25. Here's the deal. When we give no tax on overtime in particular, that is going to help so many Americans in so many different kinds of jobs, from police officers to firemen to nurses to factory workers to all these kind of people. A lot of Americans have no problem working longer hours, but they shouldn't have to pay taxes on it. And the best way to help Americans through these difficult financial times were especially young people. Steve, my kids age in their 20s. They have no hope of having like a single parent I mean, I'm sorry, a one person working and then a stay at home, mom or dad. They have no hope for that.
Steve Bannon
And to own a house.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
And to own a house. No tax on tips on one salary. And for the love of God, ladies, senior citizens alone.
Steve Bannon
Tax on Social Security. Do people now realize how deficits add to the debt and how that adds to the inflation and the financing of this? Are people concerned about the debt?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
People are concerned about the debt, but you know what? They're more concerned about their ability to pay for groceries and rent. They're more concerned about, like I said, drugs on their streets, homeless people that are just drugged out everywhere. They're concerned about their.
Steve Bannon
We got about three and a half minutes left. What is your recommendation given how everybody's talking about your tweet? Fox News has got a huge story up there. You got three minutes. What is your advice to the president? Because he listens to you.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
My advice to the president is simple, is stick with the agenda and ignore the people here in Washington that are trying to get you to do something different. And it's the Republicans that are the problem, Steve. Here's the issue. We're not going to get it done in two years. It's not going to happen. And actually, the American people are way smarter than Washington. They know it's not going to get.
Steve Bannon
Done in two years because you already shut the border. You show what you could do. So just hit.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Just Tom Homan and them.
Steve Bannon
Remember, Lankford's bill had 2 million additional like a year before anything kicked in. He. Trump's done it and shut it down 60 days.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah. And we had Republicans supporting that bill. Republican bill, Republican bill, Republican.
Steve Bannon
We had to do it. Trump was terrible because he wouldn't get along.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I know. Is that whole, Whole. It's so absurd.
Steve Bannon
So stick to the program.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Stick to the program. Deliver the campaign promises that we made and understand that the way to win the midterms is by the House and the Senate delivering the campaign promises because Trump's not on the. He's not on the ballot in 2026. And that big turnout was for President Trump in 2024 for War Room.
Steve Bannon
He's always on the ballot.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
He's. It's per. It's in perpetuity.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
But Republicans have to understand that they can't walk away from the president.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, but here's the thing. If you take the training wheels off, they fall off the bike right away. Because you see it right now, there's not just a 100%, 120% backing of the, of the agenda in the Hill newspaper stuff. They'll say Republicans are on board. But you're up there. You know they're not on board. Every day. You're fighting every day behind scenes.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I'm telling you, if you ignore the, the parents that are furious over Covid vaccines being on their childhood vaccine schedule, you're going to lose the midterms. If you ignore the campaign promises of no tax on tips, overtime and Social Security, you're going to lose the midterms. If you ignore the executive orders that the American people are like, yes, applauding for every single day, we're going to lose. Here's why. Here's why. If we're campaigning in 2026 on, you have to vote for Republicans because the Democrats are going to impeach Trump. The American people are going to go, we don't care. We've seen that TV show before. We've seen it twice. We do not care. We still support.
Steve Bannon
They can't hurt President Trump. And it's got to be something deeper than that.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
It's got to be something deeper. It's got to be something deeper. And they have to, it's passing the agenda.
Steve Bannon
Where do people, where do people go? Because now you're going to be doing media again, right? We were just playing clips of you because we didn't think you're doing media. What they were great.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
I'm available for media, by the way.
Steve Bannon
There are great clips. Where do people go to get all your content?
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Rep MTG is where you can see my content.
Steve Bannon
It's on fire. That Twitter feed this weekend, man, you were, you were changed in the direction.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Of current politics, as we say, just by being honest.
Steve Bannon
Imagine that talking from the base. Congressman, you're a patriot and a hero.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
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Donald Trump
Hi, Steve. We totally bashed the globalist here in Romania. We. I had 40% of the votes, and my opponent in the second round had only 20% of the votes. He is the mayor of Bucharest. As I told you in Washington, we'll have elections in Romania and Poland for naming the next presidents of Romania and Poland. Me and Carol Novrotsky are being the candidates on the Maga ticket. So the Romanians love the American people, freedom. And President Donald Trump. We won big time yesterday. And the same thing will happen in Poland with our friend Carol Noski. They started beating each other, the candidates of the establishment of the deep state. And I was the only sovereignist candidate. I am replacing Colleen Georgescu, who was banned Iran style. In. In Romania, with the canceled elections, we had the millions of dead people on the electoral lists. And now CNN and the other media outlets present in Romania are telling their usual lies about me, trying to convince the Romanian people that Romania will be isolated and we will exit NATO in the European Union. If I am the next president, if I am the next president, we will be the best partner for the United States, together with Poland. And our competitor in the second round is the candidate that is supported by Ursula von der Leyen and Emmanuel Macron, by the French and the German, who want a split in the free world, who want different geopolitical bloc. EU versus us. We want to keep the free world as it is free and united under the American flag. Though we'll have a very interesting two weeks ahead of us. I had some campaign events today. All the Romanian people are supporting us. You can imagine I almost obtained a majority of the votes yesterday. So if the elections will be fair and free, if they will not try to arrest me. I said last time when I was in your TV show that it's possible they would try to eliminate us. They will. They will even try to kill us. And the globalist Ms. Sam said Simeon is telling lies in Washington. They would do anything in their power not to have MAGA people winning elections in Europe. But the European people are awakening and we are winning the elections everywhere.
Steve Bannon
George, why do they fear you? Why does the EU fear? Your candidacy is all about the sovereignty for the Romanian people. European, unabashed nationalist, very much like President Trump and the MAGA base here. You're a populace. What is it specifically they fear about you, sir?
Donald Trump
They fear that they will lose their jobs. They are controlling every action in every EU state. And it's clear that the people from the 27 states of the European Union don't want them anymore. Macron has problems with popular support in France. They cannot form a majority in in Germany, they have to put together in government all the parties. So now we have a majority here in Romania that are voting, like you said, the nationalist populists. And they are scared that we will soon have a majority in the EU institutions in the European Parliament. And Ursula von der Leyen cann lead us. And we will change the path like you changed it in the United States from The globalist Soros financed people puppets actually to patriotic government style, Trump style in which we will give power to the people.
Steve Bannon
We gotta bounce. Only got two minutes. What is your fear about election integrity two weeks from now? And what can this audience do?
Donald Trump
Sir, they will try anything to stop us. You must spread the word. We will have to invite you, Steve, to some independent podcasters and TV channels that are still on the good side of things in Romania. We need all the maga important figures to send signals that we want fair and free elections and the result will be a landslide. We will be victorious and we will start the conservative revolution here in all 27 EU states. I already was congratulated by Matteo Salvini, by Santiago Abascal, by other important right wing leaders across the Europe. So now it's your turn to spread the word in the states and assure that we will have a fair and free elections here. This is what we need from your side.
Steve Bannon
George. Social media. Where do people go to find out more about your heroic and patriotic campaigns, sir.
Donald Trump
So we are very popular on Facebook and on TikTok, but you, you can use X because I'm publishing in English materials there. This is my account that you are seeing now on the screen. Follow me. Join us. It's important to spread the world also internationally. I'm the most popular political figure here on Tick Tock and on Facebook. I have over 1 million and a half followers there. But it's important to get their support groups in all, all three, three countries. Thank you, Steve. Keep in touch.
Marjorie Taylor Greene
We will.
Steve Bannon
We will push it hard, sir. We'll push it very hard. Congratulations. And we'll make sure this is not stolen from you in two weeks from Romania. Tom Finn Benton in the war. In the war. In the war room and in the house. Next. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need Done With Debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card and loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit dawnwithdet.com talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today. Hey War Room. Hope you're all doing well. My name is Trevor Comstock, I'm one.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room - Episode 4461: Stopping All Funding On Foreign Wars
Release Date: May 5, 2025
In Episode 4461 of Bannon's War Room, hosted by Steve Bannon, the discussion centers around halting funding for foreign wars, with a particular emphasis on the Ukraine conflict, the influence of China, and the pervasive impact of Mexican cartels on American society. The episode features in-depth conversations with key political figures, including Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, and even a surprising segment featuring former President Donald Trump. Below is a comprehensive breakdown of the episode's key topics, discussions, insights, and conclusions.
Steve Bannon opens the episode by highlighting the rapid implementation of policies under President Trump, attributing these changes to Project 2025, a strategic plan aiming to reshape the American government. Bannon draws parallels between the emerging governmental structure and Viktor Orban's regime in Hungary, suggesting a drift towards a competitive authoritarian model.
Bannon criticizes the dismantling of critical departments and the undermining of civil institutions, emphasizing the lack of public awareness about these strategic moves.
The conversation shifts to the significance of codifying Trump's executive orders to ensure their permanence. Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Greene discuss the challenges of getting the Republican-controlled House and Senate to back the administration's policies.
Greene underscores the temporary nature of executive orders, stressing the necessity for legislative action to make these policies enduring.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to critiquing ongoing foreign engagements, particularly the support for Ukraine amidst allegations of corruption and mismanagement. Greene expresses strong opposition to the war in Ukraine, advocating for reallocating funds to address domestic crises like natural disasters and the opioid epidemic fueled by Mexican cartels.
The discussion also touches upon China's economic machinations and the influence of Mexican drug cartels, positioning them as primary threats to American security and prosperity.
Greene delves into the controversial topic of COVID-19 vaccines, advocating for their removal from the childhood vaccine schedule. She criticizes the government's handling of the pandemic, highlighting adverse effects and calling for accountability.
Bannon supports Greene's stance, emphasizing the need for public awareness and action against perceived governmental overreach in health policies.
The episode addresses the looming fiscal challenges, including the national debt and budget deficits exacerbated by extensive military spending and tax cuts. Greene advocates for reducing Pentagon expenditures and reallocating funds to more pressing domestic needs, such as veteran support and combating drug addiction.
She also champions tax reforms, including eliminating taxes on tips, overtime, and Social Security, to alleviate financial burdens on American workers.
In an unexpected segment, former President Donald Trump discusses his involvement in European politics, specifically his candidacy in Romania's presidential elections. Trump positions himself as a champion of American values abroad, aiming to influence the European Union's direction away from globalist agendas.
Notable Quote (45:56):
Donald Trump: "We will have elections in Romania and Poland for naming the next presidents... We are winning the elections everywhere."
Notable Quote (49:13):
Donald Trump: "They fear that they will lose their jobs. They are controlling every action in every EU state."
This segment underscores the podcast's broader theme of extending "America First" policies beyond U.S. borders, advocating for a global resurgence of nationalist ideologies.
Bannon and Greene discuss the slow progress of reconciliation bills in Congress, which are crucial for passing significant budgetary and policy changes without presidential vetoes. They express frustration over the lack of swift action, despite the Republican majority in both chambers.
The conversation highlights the disconnect between executive initiatives and legislative follow-through, posing a threat to the sustainability of the administration's agenda.
Both Bannon and Greene critique the establishment within the Republican Party and mainstream media outlets like Fox News for not fully supporting President Trump. They argue that these entities undermine the MAGA agenda, leading to a rift between the base and traditional party structures.
This section emphasizes the internal battles within the party and the struggle to maintain unified support for the administration's policies.
In discussions about personal finance, the episode briefly touches upon strategies to manage personal debt amidst economic instability. While this segment contains advertisements, the core conversation remains focused on fiscal responsibility and economic empowerment for individuals.
The episode includes a short segment promoting Sacred Human, a brand offering natural supplements. This segment underscores the podcast's alignment with promoting health products that align with their ideological stance on natural living and resistance against perceived governmental overreach in health matters.
Episode 4461 of Bannon's War Room presents a fervent critique of current U.S. foreign and domestic policies, advocating for a withdrawal from foreign conflicts, stringent fiscal measures, and a reorientation towards nationalist principles both domestically and internationally. The conversations underscore a persistent tension between executive actions and legislative support, the challenges of maintaining party unity, and the overarching goal of preserving and advancing the MAGA agenda. With outspoken endorsements of figures like Marjorie Taylor Greene and former President Donald Trump, the episode reinforces the podcast's commitment to radical restructuring of American governance and prioritization of American interests above all.
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This summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing insights into the strategic discussions aimed at reshaping governmental policies and priorities in alignment with nationalist and populist ideologies.