
Episode 4463: Trump Bans Gain Of Function Research ...
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Donald Trump
Weaponry was. And these kind of research was always that we have to do this, develop vaccines to counter a future pandemic. In all of the history of gain of function research, we can't point to a single good thing that's come from it. And today I commend President Trump for his courage and his vision in ending U.S. bioweapons research. And Jay, I'd love you to talk a little bit about. Yeah, Jay, sure. This is a historic day. The conduct of this dangerous gain of function research, which aims at taking pathogens and making them more virulent, more transmissible in humans, many scientists believe is responsible for the COVID pandemic. The conduct of this research does not protect us against pandemics, as some people might say. It doesn't protect us against other nations. What it does is there's always a danger that in doing this research, it might leak out just by accident even and cause a pandemic. Any nation that engages in this research endangers their own population as well as the world, as we saw during the COVID pandemic. This proclamation makes it so that most science is actually poses no threat to human populations. The vast majority of science will go on under this as normal. But the fraction of this research that has the risk of causing a pandemic harming every single person on the face of the Earth, we're going to put it, this proclamation, this executive order puts in place a framework to make sure that the public has a say, that if such a risk is being taken, that only scientists alone won't be able to decide that. That in fact the public is saying, no, don't take this risk. And I'm really, really proud to be here with President Trump who signed this order ending this research and for the first time putting in place a real regulatory framework to make it go away forever. So it can leak out, like from Wuhan. And a lot of people think that. I think I said that right from day one. It leaked out, whether it was to the girlfriend or somebody else. But scientists walked outside to have lunch with a girlfriend or was together with a lot of people. But that's how it leaked out, in my opinion, and I've never changed that opinion. So it can leak out innocently, stupidly, incompetently, but innocently and half destroy the world. Right? That's right.
Jay Bhattacharya
That's right.
Donald Trump
Mr. President, Mr. President, there are, I think, three leaks, BSL 3 and BSL 4 labs, our highest rated laboratories almost every week. There's no laboratory that does this. Right. There's no laboratory that's immune from leaks. And this is going to prevent those kind of inadvertent leaks from happening in the future and endangering humanity. The COVID outbreak cost 20 million lives and cost the world at least $25 trillion. And this executive order is a precaution against us being involved and that kind of research in the future. Thanks, Claire. Very honored to do this. Marty, what do you have to say? Yeah, it's unbelievable to think the entire nightmare of COVID was likely preventable. And you had good instincts early on, Mr. President, in suggesting it came from the Wuhan Lab. That is now the leading theory among scientists. It was five miles from the hospital where it first broke out. So it's crazy to think that this entire nightmare was probably the result of some scientists messing with Mother Nature in a laboratory with technology exported from the United States that is inserting a furin cleavage site. So I hope this does some good in the world, Mr. President. Thank you for doing it. Anybody have any questions on that? Yes, please.
Jay Bhattacharya
On your proclamation designating this Mental Health.
Donald Trump
Awareness Month, can you speak to concerns.
Jay Bhattacharya
People are having regarding your administration cutting a billion dollars in mental health programs for school?
Donald Trump
Well, we're looking very closely at waste, fraud and abuse, of which there's tremendous amount. People on that should be on illegal immigrants, on people that came into the country illegally. We have many of them, and we're looking for that. But for the population that's supposed to be there, it's perfecto. And they want us to do that. They don't want to have the waste, the fraud. And the fraud is big, by the way, or the abuse. Question? Yeah, please. Thank you, Mr. President. I actually have a question for Secretary Kennedy, if you don't mind. Go ahead. You mentioned the anthrax attacks of 2001 at Zero Hedge.
Jay Bhattacharya
We're working on a piece revisiting that. And I've heard you speak at length.
Donald Trump
About how that was likely a conspiracy from the inside of the Bush administration. So with your new current position, would you consider relooking into that, given the questions that I've heard you raise in the past? Well, we're not at this moment going back. I mean, the FBI has already done an extensive investigation. They said that the anthrax was Ames. Anthrax came from a US Lab. Their accusation was that it was released by a scientist called Bruce Ivins, who subsequently committed suicide. There are many people who believe that Bruce Ivins was falsely accused and that it was somebody else in the lab. It's not something that we're currently investigating. But it's something that the FBI, the fact that it came from a US Lab is something the FBI determined. Yeah, please.
Jay Bhattacharya
There have been several MAHA aligned bills being proposed throughout the country and I wanted to know what your thought was on that and the progress that Secretary Kennedy is making. First and second, when you. No, I'm sorry, let's answer.
Donald Trump
You want to go ahead. I mean, we've had a wave. I think we have MAHA legislation now in 36 states in the past two or three weeks. I've been to Arizona, to Utah, to West Virginia, to Indiana, signed SNAP waivers to get candy in the soda office. Snap, change the school lunch program so that we're feeding our kids food instead of food, like substances that are made in laboratories. And to do a number of other initiatives that are being passed by that are being driven by local MAHA movement inspired by the President and that are being signed into law by various governors. And we're very, very grateful for that. We've invited Brooke Rollins and myself have invited the governors of all the states to apply for SNAP waivers. So we make sure that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program is actually paying for nutrition and not sodas. 10% is now going to soda. There's no nutrition in a soda.
Jay Bhattacharya
And at the same time, you have like 19 attorneys general so suing you and the Trump administration.
Donald Trump
Like, what do you make of that? Who are they? Are they Democrats? Are they Democrats? Like crooked Democrats? Like really crooked Democrats? Is that who's suing? They know what. They know what they're doing. They're just hurting our country. These are very dishonest people. They've lost their way. They've lost their confidence. They have no confidence. They have no idea what they're doing. They don't even know what they're suing for. So it's just one of those things. Yeah. Please, Mr. President, on the pharmaceutical side, have you made any determination on kind of what those tariff rates may look like and the timing of those tariffs? I have. I'll announce it over the next two weeks. Okay. Will, please. Oh, sir, do you have anything to say about this morning, what we just discussed? We have had this crazy system in the United States where American pharma manufacturers in the United States are put through the wringer with inspections and the foreign sites get off easy with scheduled visits while we have surprise visits in the United States. Well, a scheduled visit is no inspection. So we are at the FDA delivering on this promise in the President's executive order and switching from announced to surprise inspections. Overseas, we're also not going to have our inspectors hanging out for three or four weeks. They're going to get in and out and we're going to do more inspections with the same resources as a result. Good, Jay. I mean, I think it's very, very important that Americans have a drug supply, a pharmaceutical supply that they can count on. We saw during the COVID pandemic that the reliance on overseas production of pharmaceuticals led to shortages of essential medicines. And that's happened over and over again. Making the American, making America produce the drugs that it's long been able to produce is a huge priority. And this executive order the President just signed is going to make that possible. Vince, you're a big policy person. You've done so great for me for so long. What do you think, sir, you've always said it's vitally important that we have national self sufficiency when it comes to critical pharmaceuticals. We learned that in 2020. It was a key campaign promise. We've seen shortages in the past of critical cancer drugs, people on chemotherapy. We have to produce those here at home. And this is an important contribution to doing that. Thank you. Any questions of them? Okay, just two more, sir. We have a slate of 39 Senate confirmed senior officials of your administration. This slate includes a significant number of new U.S. attorneys. Those will be the top prosecutors in judicial districts around the country, will prosecute crime and help advance your agenda. Okay. There's a lot of people and they're very good people, I hope. Who knows? I hope so. Thank you. And then lastly, sir, we have another proclamation. This week is National Hurricane Preparedness Week. This is an issue that's particularly important, obviously to your home state of Florida. This is just a proclamation recognizing National Hurricane Preparedness Week 2025. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. I want to thank you. So we're going to be having some conferences next week. I'll also be going to Saudi Arabia and other places, going to UYI and Qatar, and some of you will be going with us. An interesting time, but I think we're going to have another conference next week which will be very important, having to do with the world of the medical. And I think we'll be very productive. These are really very important that we signed today. And thank you very much for being here. Thank you very much. You. Oh, my goodness. Thank you, guys. I will always believe, by God's grace, I did my duty that day to support the peaceful transfer of power under the Constitution of the United States of America.
Jay Bhattacharya
There is no wedge between the base and President Trump. The wedge is between Congress and the establishment Republicans that are undermining the president's agenda. And also anyone that gets in the president's ear and is lying to him about what he should be doing. You know, here's the real issue. Country rose up in a historic way, something that we haven't seen in our lifetime, Steve, and delivered a mandate. And that mandate was to the Republican Party. The mandate was President Trump's agenda. The American people said, no, we're done with the old Republican Party ways. We are rejecting the Democrat Party's policies. We are embracing make America great again. Maga, America first. Maha, no more foreign wars. This whole populist movement supporting America and American workers and American companies and American interests in solving American problems. That's what November 2024 was about. And Washington, as usual, is tone deaf and has not heard the message. What we saw is all these Republicans that rejected Trump, fought Trump in his first administration, you know, networks, even like Fox News, that did not support the president and didn't Support him in 2020 22, part of 2023, and didn't support him until they realized they had to support him.
Donald Trump
The president, again, just one preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
Jay Bhattacharya
Of course, this all begs the question.
Donald Trump
Asked in the same interview, of whether he might seek to violate the Constitution in a different, specific way.
Jay Bhattacharya
There is, of course, a constitutional amendment.
Donald Trump
That limits presidents to two terms in office. So does he plan to run for a third term? It's something that, to the best of my knowledge, you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's constitutional, that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else. This is not something I'm looking to do. There's that phrase again. I don't know. Trump himself really kind of all over the place on this one.
Jay Bhattacharya
Maggie Haberman reported back in February that.
Donald Trump
In private, the President says this is just one of many things he said to get attention and frustrate his opponents. Then five weeks ago, he told NBC, quote, I'm not joking, when he was asked about potentially seeking a third term. And there really seems to be no one in his inner or his outer.
Jay Bhattacharya
Circle that's saying definitively no, at least in public. I think he's going to be finished probably after this term. Probably.
Donald Trump
Well, the Constitution.
Jay Bhattacharya
We'd have to look at the Constitution.
Donald Trump
President Trump is going to run for a third term. And President Trump is going to be elected again. On the afternoon of January 20th of 2029. He's going to be presidentized states. But you don't really think he's running.
Jay Bhattacharya
In 2028, do you?
Donald Trump
I'll let the president speak to his political future. Our Stephen Collinson put it this way.
Jay Bhattacharya
Writing today, quote, Americans are learning what.
Donald Trump
It'S like to live with a president who sees no constraints on his actions and who apparently fears paying no price for them. Is this like that moment in Mean Girls? If you're my age, you'll remember this.
Jay Bhattacharya
When Lindsay Lohan wins the Mathletes tournament.
Donald Trump
Because she realizes that the limit does not exist. Is that America and President Trump right now, except, you know, with stakes that actually really matter. The FinTech recommendation to the President of the United to our chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, which be the guy that occupies the Oval Office. You're recommending a appointment of a special prosecutor, special counsel. You're saying if you go back and look at the Constitution and by custom and tradition that you believe that President Trump should keep open the possibility of appointing himself maybe with a Matt Gaetz as a deputy. Is that what I'm hearing? Or Jeff Clark or Rudy. He could bring Rudy back in as a deputy. He's. He's as sharp as attack and has more experience. I love this so much. I just got to, I want to make sure you and I are. Because we go back a long way. We're not trolling here. This is serious. Because when he said Trump is special prosecutor Gates, Clark, Rudy, they're literally going to explode. They're going to lose it. The point is I'm highlighting, you know, there's kind of like, oh, that would be the perfect response. Right. But their response is short of that. And I'm highlighting for the, for your listeners and the American people, educating them on the powers of the presidency. And Attorney General Bondi can get support from the president to get this done. He can, like, short of this, just direct the attorney general to engage in the criminal investigations and any resulting prosecutions and manage it as closely as he wants. This fake constitutional construct that the left has stuffed down our throats post war against the to justify their attacks on Nixon. It's a total lie. Is not only a lie, but it's a dangerous lie because it gives that awesome power of prosecution to unelected bureaucrats or people who aren't subjected to the checks the founders intended to have in place, meaning the president running the show. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these Networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Monday the 5th of May, year of our Lord 2025. Thank you President just wrapped up, signing executive orders Make America healthy again. In this case, make the world healthy again. A huge executive order on gain of function. No longer any association or any American funding of gain of function in countries that listed including China, that I'm glad the president did this. This ought to be part of the active negotiations in the trade deal with the Chinese Communist Party. And also this one of the reasons we had Fenton on this morning should be going begin a major investigation of all the gain of function. Fauci everything that went on also that's one the war room's been all over. Also active pharmaceutical ingredients. The president signing executive order to start focusing on getting them back over here to the United States of America. This is Rosemary Gibson and her fantastic book and of course the guys at Jace Medical built a business around this to actually make sure that you're never caught because the Chinese Communist Party have 100% of active pharmaceutical ingredients. I'm sure that's come up in this, in the supply chain, in all of it too. So a couple more great executive orders. Naomi Wolf's going to be with us in a little while to discuss. Also Mike Howe is going to come back give us an update on Ed Martin tonight. This thing has to be notified. My understanding, I think he may be going over to the Senate floor. I think he's been meeting with the head of the Judiciary Committee, Senator Grassley, Mike Howell. Give us an update here in a few minutes. Of course that's vital. If we do not schedule the hearing for Thursday tonight because it's got to be three days notice. It'll blow through. It'll blow through everything because my understanding is a shifty shift and these guys still have some delayed taxes. Anyway, Mike Cal is going to join us. Ed Martin, want to give a hat tip to the entire war Room posse. People using the Article 3 app, people using the war Room Grace Chung, her development team, Bill Blaster, app. My understanding is that the Senate Judiciary Committee got an earful this afternoon. So for right now, just hang on. Let's get an update and and we'll proceed from there. Jane Zirkel, Jane, you one of the things we're working on, a thousand things behind the scenes folks should know. And every now and again we get to highlight them as efforts go forward. The criminal justice reform and particularly the prisons. What President Trump did on the First Step act and many, many other things. Peter Navarro, Jared Kushner, myself taking particular interest on this. Tom Barracks pitching in others. We just got a new head of Bureau of Prisons from West Virginia I think last week. I think he got sworn in last week. Building a team around him. Prison reform and actually executing on President Trump's First Step Act. Vitally important. Jane Zirkel, you wrote a really smart piece about Fulton county, the disaster down there. Fani Willis, the entire team. Walk me through what are you talking about when it comes to prison reform regarding Fani Willis and the Fulton County Jail.
Jay Bhattacharya
Sure.
Donald Trump
Well, you would think that the facility.
Jay Bhattacharya
That had the Hutzpah to book the president of the United States would have their act together, but that's not the reality in Fulton County. The Fulton County Jail is one of the worst run facilities in the United States. It has one of the highest inmate death rates in the United States. In 2023, when President Trump was booked there, 10 people died in the jail. And that's largely due to negligence and lack of access to the proper medical care that inmates needed. I want to just run through some of those cases. There was a man by the name of Lashawn Thompson who was found, quote, eaten alive in his cell. The jail has been known to have a very bad pest control problem. He was eaten alive by bedbugs in his cell. And in 2023, the DOJ actually launched an investigation into the jail which found that it needed a sanitation plan in place. It also found that inmates 8th and 14th amendment rights were being violated along with the American Disabilities Act. There was another man by the name of Samuel Lawrence who hand wrote a federal complaint detailing that he was in fear of his life from not only his fellow inmates, but but also from the staff. And four days later, he was strangled in his cell. There are around 400 stabbings a year at the jail. That's one to two per day. It is a facility that's meant to house around 1300 inmates. It typically houses upwards of 3000. And the building is literally falling apart. Inmates are Making makeshift weapons from the walls that are crumbling around them. And one other really particularly awful case was of a 19 year old woman. I know President Trump just signed an EO in relation to mental health. Well, she came into the facility with severe mental health issues. She was diagnosed with psychosis. And she, 53 days into her stay in that jail, ultimately was found dead during a dinner run and she was bashing her head against the wall. Her cellmate reported her having extreme mental episodes. And the officials who reported on her death sentence said that there were no signs of injuries. So to start with criminal justice reform, the Fulton County Jail should be made an example of. And the facility needs to be completely dismantled. And this is very critical for Republicans in the state of Georgia who are going into a gubernatorial election in 2026. I know that Brian Kemp has been the administrative state's waterboy, but he needs to take serious action here because what is going on in his state is a massive human rights abuse. And the sheriff has even gone on record to say that there is a humanitarian crisis taking place in this facility.
Donald Trump
How does. And also, how did Fani Willis and all these folks get time to come after President Trump? Remember how vicious that was? When you have something like this for the citizens of Georgia, that is clearly absolutely inhumane. I mean, I don't know how these progressives and how these Democrats. I mean, Fulton County, Atlanta, that's a Democrat city. How can this go on? Jane Zerkel.
Jay Bhattacharya
Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely time for change. And there's a mayoral election this year. The 15 city council seats are also up for grabs. But there needs to be a massive purge of faculty and administration within this facility. And the doj. And the DOJ needs to get further involved. You know, this whole doj, it's rooted in getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse. Well, that starts with taking out the Bureau of Prisons and looking into these state jails, because remember, even though this is a state facility, it's still getting millions of dollars in federal grant money. And I also recommend in this piece that we start implementing sort of a tariff model when it comes to funding these facilities, that we take away the funding from institutions who are violating constitutional rights of inmates. I mean, for the DOJ to write in the report that a basic requirement is just to follow the Constitution in regards to the treatment of inmates. I mean, what a concept. But this report was largely criticized as simply performative action. And we need real, tangible results here, which includes prosecution of staff. There needs to be real accountability here.
Donald Trump
I tell you how hard it is. The First Step act, which is President Trump and really Jared Kushner was the architect. Just a brilliant, brilliant piece of legislation that can help families and help inmates. Because the federal system, I can tell you, is there to break families. Never exit, never really implemented, not really executed. I mean, Peter Navarro has been all over this. In fact, Peter Navarro is working with people right now about the algorithm, about how it's computed, about the team that computes it, how it's promulgated through the system. It took us. Peter and I talked about this. We started talking about it with Jared on the morning of the 6th, the day after we won, about a new BoP management team. I think the west. The guy from West Virginia was designated or announced like two weeks ago and then sworn in last week because it doesn't have to be confirmed. These are very hard billets to find. Real reformers and quality people. It's not easy. These prison systems are messed up and the states are in worse shape than the federal and the federals in terrible, terrible shape. Jane, where can people go to get your social media? Where can they go to get this social piece? I want Grace and Mo to put it up everywhere because it's very profound.
Jay Bhattacharya
You can find me at Jane Zirkel on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and of course, Getter.
Donald Trump
Jane, thank you so much. Appreciate you. Okay. When Jane was talking there about the prisons in this DOJ report, this is one of the reasons Fitton. So we had two. We had Mike. How. We had Mike. How. Today on Mike. How was here about the Ed Martin situation? The Ed Martin situation is still evolving even as we speak. Everybody put down. We don't need to call anybody. You guys have done your duty. The message has gone out loud and clear. More impasse. Once again, tip of the tip of the spear. Thank you so much. But also Tom Fitton. We had Tom Fenton come in because of this situation with the special. The special counsel. This gets back to the prisons. The folks at DOJ at Main Justice, Pam and this team, they are overwhelmed right now. To take an apparatus like that, that has been so twisted, at least from President Nixon's administration before, but even had deep, deep roots of problems before then. To turn this round, when you only with political appointees and then people even in the apparatus that agree with your program, let's say 15%, 20% max, 80% of the building is still adamantly opposed. What you're trying to do you take cash or the FBI. I'm not making excuses for people. All at all. I'm telling you, given these institutions and given the administrative deep state just dug in, how hard it is. This is why these two things today, Jane. First of all, Jane's analysis of Fulton county, of what has to happen at these state prisons and right there in Georgia, great opportunity for maga, great opportunity for Republicans to make a huge issue of this, to try and get this sorted. But also here, this is why someone like Ed Martin is so needed. Ed Martin, who is Phyllis Schlafly's wingman, brings a different perspective than what you normally see in a US Attorney in D.C. in the US Attorney in D.C. outside a couple of top people at Main justice, it's the head of the Southern District of New York and the U.S. attorney in D.C. those two U.S. attorneys are the two that are massive because of their jurisdiction. One Wall street and all corporate America, the other all of Washington, D.C. not just the District, but everything related to the District. And Tom Fenton right there, Tom has told me, I think he sued the Trump administration now 12 times. His point is that you're so swamped of doing what your regular job is, you have to identify a special counsel to actually get it done on the outside on all these investigations. Okay. Short commercial break the second hundred days of President Trump starts with a bang, a flurry of executive orders around Make America Healthy again. 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Well, nearly every single Republican Attorney general supports him via a letter today to the U.S. senate. Then they tried saying he didn't have the law enforcement support. They all lined up behind him. The entire base is behind him. He may be the D.C. uSA and not have a home state senator to blue slip him, but DC Is the people city and the people have spoken very loudly. They're all for Ed. He's Trump's mandate man. He's got to get across the finish line and we will know tonight. And I don't even think the US Senate can screw this one up that bad. He's Trump guy. He's not. The Senate's not going to let Durbin or Boasberg pick Trump's guy. So tell us what we have to do because the audience was all revved up after you left this morning. We're just in kind of I told ready to stand down until Mike Howe comes on. Tell us what we need to do. Just stand down and what's happening and what should we look for? I think the number one thing the Warren posse and everyone can do is reach out to the US Senate, particularly the members on the Judiciary Committee and let them know that you stand behind Ed Martin because he has done a great job making D.C. safe. We don't need to even lean into the politics too much here. His record speaks for itself. He has done a bang up job in D.C. crime is on its way down. He's going after the bad guys. He's refocused the office into law and order. So just let the Senate know that he is, he deserves the full time nod and they need to act today to get him through because he's Trump's mandate man in D.C. brother. How where do people go to keep up in touch with you, particularly social media? Because we are going to want to know something after the show's over tonight. Where they go. I'm at mhow tweets and the oversight project is at its YourGov. We're posting news as it's breaking and it's hard to keep up with because so many people, organizations and others are just supporting U.S. attorney Martin right now. It is a groundswell of support I've never seen for a U.S. attorney. This is a supreme level or supreme Court level amount of support and that's because the Senate Democrats are going after him just like they did for Kavanaugh. This is their fight. We're not going to let them win it. Mike, how thank you so much. Great work coordinating all of this. Really monumental. Thank you. You see every level when they said the Jewish community didn't support him, you get the letter with all the Jewish groups and they said the cops didn't support him. You get the sheriffs and the cops when they said the across the nation had no support. You get all the US you get all the attorneys generals from the red states. Every vertical, every time they say something, boom, it's there to refute it. Grace has got Bill Blaster, Mike Davis over at Article 3 has Article 3 app. Make sure you make and let's be polite and nice today. Just go look at the Judiciary Committee. You know, you got, you got Cornyn, you got Tillis, you got a couple three folks like that. Just give them a hey, just checking in. Ed Martin's our guy. President Trump wants him, the nation wants him and the war room wants him. So let's go ahead and do that and do a few follow up text messages, calls, emails, et cetera. Ed Martin still in the balance. We're gonna know that. We gotta know it tonight. So we'll know it in the next couple hours. Let's go ahead. We got a cold open. Naomi Wolf joins us. Let's go ahead. And we got a cold open. Let's light her up. The first relates to gain of function research. Gain of function research is a type of biomedical research where pathogens are adulterated, viruses are adulterated to make them more potent or to change the way that they function. This many people believe that gain of function research was one of the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck us in the last decade. What this executive order does, first of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce the ban on federal funding for gain of function research abroad. It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue and creates an overarching strategy to ensure that biomedical research in general is being conducted safely and in a way that ultimately protects human health more. It's a big deal. Could have been that we wouldn't have had the problem we had. A lot of people say that, sir, if we had this done earlier. Thank you. Gain of function. The whole story about how Fauci went back over after the Obama administration National Security Council restricted the use of gain of function, how he weaseled his way back over to EOB in December of 2017. Of course, Tom Fenton said today, those pardons don't matter. Go ahead and investigate them, indict them, try them, and then when you come down to the fact of giving them the prison sentence, then you bring up the pardons to see if they're even operative. He's adamant about Fauci. Naomi Wolf joins us now. Naomi, all the investigations about all of it, including today, President Trump signs us about gain of function. Are you happy where these actually stand, given all the, you know, either malfeasance and, or incompetence, malfeasance, criminal activity, I don't know, across the board and so much of make America Healthy, it's the reason this part of the movement caught on fire. Ma'am.
Jay Bhattacharya
I've come a long way with the posse and all of you and today I'm happy to say this is what I voted for. This is exactly what Maha voted for, what Maga voted for. And it's also, mind blowing Steve, that you've got people who were targeted as the most outcast, marginalized dissidents, Dr. Bhattacharya, RFK Jr. Marty Makari standing next to the President. And even more incredible since they've been in office they're issuing policies that are so commonsensical. For instance, let's have actual trials of the drugs that you inject into your child. And now you know, with the gain of function research, let's end a horrifically dangerous damage.
Donald Trump
Hold on, hold on, hold, hold on, hold on, hold on. The media is telling me exactly because we had the deputy on that's going to do the trials. They said this is more Bobby Kennedy voodoo, this is more crazy Naomi Wolf in war room that they're actually doing the trials for the vaccines the wrong way. And, and we're just doing it because we're all anti vax nut. Your response, ma'am?
Jay Bhattacharya
I think RFK Jr answers that really well when that issue comes up. I mean it's the science we learned in eighth grade. You know he's just, I mean when people understand what he's been trying to say for over a decade that vaccines come to market not only without any liability protection, right. They can do anything, you can't sue them but also without proper trials, parents heads explode and so he's just making that case over and over. And of course the pharma funded spokesmodels are going to say that's voodoo science and try to confuse people. But I think the American public is done being gaslit like that. And I think many people understand what RFK Jr. And Dr. Bhattacharya is saying because they learned in 8th grade what appear what a double blind spot study is, what real science is and they want it before they put substances in their kids.
Donald Trump
You've also found you're working on something new about Big Pharma again. What's your latest?
Jay Bhattacharya
Well, there's a big story that came out if that's what you're referencing which Dr. James Thorpe, the only obstetrician really maybe one other brave enough to stand up for women during this onslaught against fertility in the last five years. He broke the story yesterday on X and he pointed out that Pfizer and this is so evil, Steve. And it picks up on things that the posse has been learning along with me and Amy Kelly and the daily clout war room Pfizer documents research volunteers. Dr. Thorpe pointed out that Pfizer entered into a collaboration with Myovant Scientist, another pharma company to develop and commercialize a medication called Myfembri. And I looked up Myfembri and sure enough, this collaboration, this partnership to produce and distribute this medication was launched in May of 2021. And it's kind of been under the radar, but it's been. Pfizer and Myovant have been selling Myfembri. Well, the backstory of this is so dark and evil, you know, because I got deplatformed for it in 2021 for warning that women were having menstrual problems upon receiving the MRNA injection. Subsequently, the war room daily cloud Pfizer documents, research volunteers found in the Pfizer documents that Pfizer was developing the injection essentially to cause menstrual problems and fertility problems. I'm just going to say that. And there's even a chart that was sent over by Pfizer to the FDA in April.
Donald Trump
What do you mean? What do you ho ho, what do you mean? The cause? What does that mean?
Jay Bhattacharya
Well, I mean, we've had this kind of philosophical moment before. So much of the research advisor papers proves that the MRNA injection disrupts human fertility in multiple, multiple, multiple ways. And they were looking very closely at this to the point where they created charts and spreadsheets proving that this injection had a horrible effect on women's menstrual cycles and caused miscarriages disproportionately. In fact, a report just came out from the Czech Republic that live births are down 30%, which is lower than the 13 to 20% that I updated the posse about the last one of the last few times I was on. But the men's. The focus on menstrual damage is so weird, but now it makes sense. So is it a cause? Is it effect? An effect? Are they, you know, monetizing a side effect that they knew about? I can't answer that. There's no smoking gun. That's where hearings should come in. But what I'm trying to describe is that they created a spreadsheet showing tens of thousands of women that they had damaged menstrually with the injection. 15,000 women bleeding every day. 10,000 women bleeding twice a month. 7,500 women with no periods at all, meaning totally infertile. 10 year old girls bleeding upon being injected. 85 year old women bleeding, Women having horrible hemorrhages and pain. I won't go into any more gory detail. The point is that chart went to the White House on April 20, 2021. It went to Dr. Walensky, it went to the FDA, it went to Potis, right. Fifteen White House staffers. It went to all of them. And then three days later, Dr. Walensky told the women of America, there's no bad time to get your Pfizer or your COVID injection before, during or after your pregnancy. Well, simultaneously, Dr. Thorpe broke this story and I looked into it. I've researched it. It's shocking. While Pfizer was doing the trials for the COVID shot that proved that it destroyed women's menstrual cycles at an industrial scale like millions of women have been in at the same time they were doing this. They were developing a product to give women who are having menstrual too much menstrual bleeding. And this is what they rolled out. One month after the report went to the White House showing that they were going to generate millions of women with horrible bleeding problems. Upon rolling out the COVID and the fta.
Donald Trump
Hang on for a second. Hang on. We're going to hold you through the break. I've got to follow up on this. Now even Bannon understands. Wow. There are no coincidences, ma'am. No coincidences. Wow. Incredible. At six o'clock, Saleha Motion is going to join us. The author of the book Paper Soldiers, also a senior D. Senior Washington, D.C. correspondent for Bloomberg. She's going to be here to talk about the weaponization of the US Dollar. We're kicking off our road to Rio. The Rio reset. July 6th. Every couple of days, going to be doing some special about the US Dollar and what it means and its relationship to gold. It ain't the price, it's the process. Go to birchgold.com ban and the end of the Dollar Empire. The seventh free installment, the Rio Reset. Find out what's going on in the world, the capital markets today, and why gold is a hedge in times of turbulence. Birchgold.com Bannon talk to Philip Patrick and the team short. The April 15th tax deadline is coming and it's coming fast. Do you have unfiled tax returns? Can't pay the irs. The IRS is more than aggressive and more aggressive than ever. And the longer you wait, the worse it gets. Wage garnishments, bank levies, even property seizures are all on the table. You need to get ahead of this. You need to get ahead of it today. But going up against the IRS alone is a big time mistake. Take my advice. Call the experts at Tax Network usa. Know the system. They have an edge. A preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10,000,000. Their genius strategies are designed to quickly settle your tax problems in your favor. Tax Network USA's attorneys and negotiators have already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Let me repeat that. They've already resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. Tax Network USA can help you, too, but you need to move. You need to move fast because April 15th is already here. Remember, if you get that letter, don't put it in the drawer. It just metastasizes. Talk with one of our strategists today. It's totally free. Stop looking over your shoulder. Stop the anxiety, stop the worry. Put it all behind you. You call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com Bannon that's Tax Network USA. Go to tnusa.com Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. We're going to look to get an update on Ed Martin. This is it all hangs in the balance early this evening. We'll give you an update as soon as we know more. Birch Gold, take your phone out, text ban at 989-898. You get the totally free guide to investing in gold and precious metals in the era Trump. This is a must read. Once you do that, reach out to Philip Patrick and the team. It gives you access. If you go there to talk about, hey, I hear it's not the price, it's the process. They will learn you up at Birch Gold because now more than ever, in times of financial turbulence, we're going to have that. You saw the budget just came out. You saw the gap, saw the deficits. We talked about a little bit about that this morning. I'll do it tomorrow morning in more depth. Dave Brown will be my co host. We're going to clear up plenty of time for us to go into the details of all of that Birchgold 989898. Also, make sure you have, I don't know, 90% of your net worth tied up in your house. If you're lucky enough to have a house, you're under 35, you kind of screwed. But if you have a house, 80 to 90, 95% of your net worth, make sure that no one can steal it. That little piece of paper called your title the $1 million triple lock protection from home Title lock. Remember that piece of paper is the only thing that shows contractually you own your castle. Triple lock protection, what is it, 24 hour coverage in the middle of the night. Anything happens, you get alerted immediately. And if all else fails, $1 million restoration protection. Talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team. Go to hometitlelock.com promo code, Steve. Pretty simple promo code, Steve. Do it today. Relieve your anxiety and your angst. Naomi Wolf. That's pretty brutal. I think it's even worse than that. What else, what else is. Revolves around this because this thing is pretty disgusting, ma'am.
Jay Bhattacharya
Well, it's, it's a scandal in the making that we, we can't even imagine, Steve. Because what's happening now is you've got millions of women, of course, who are MRNA vaccinated, bleeding too much. They go to their doctors. Their doctors will prescribe my Fembri because the FDA approved it. All right, what are the side effects that you're probably not going to hear about? This is such a one, two punch to the women of America and the world. If you survived the COVID 19 shot, you know, if you, if you, your fertility survived, wait till you take my Fembre. It does reduce bleeding, right? So women are going to take it. They're going to see an improvement. It reduces bleeding by about 85%. So they're going to think it works. What else does it do? It reduces your estrogen. It causes pregnancy loss, so more damage to your fertility, more miscarriages. It raises the risk of thrombosis and blood clots. It causes you to go bald or lose your hair. Also, it causes loss of libido and suicidal ideation. So the women of America, you know, millions of them, it was 5 million women in America who had too much bleeding because of other conditions. Now it's many, many millions more because of the MRNA injection. All of those women now are going to be having, you know, being turned into kind of no sexual desire, no hair, no fertility, you know, at risk of heart attacks and depressed or suicidal. And in addition, the ingredient in my Fembri is being used, says the fine print, to develop contraception and to help in assisted reproduction. So it's a lock. I mean, basically the evil tech people or the evil globalists behind the war on America and on the West. We've talked about this, which is why the executive order that President Trump signed was so important, making sure that our drugs are manufactured at home and not by our enemies in the Chinese Communist Party. But American women are going to be, are going to be hit with so many side effects that make them unable to want to have babies, you know, unable to want to do a lot of other things. But you know, unable to parent well to mother well, if they do have babies, it's. It's a whole new war on women, motherhood and the family.
Donald Trump
We've got about two minutes. Are you're putting all this stuff up and you're one of the leaders of this movement to make America healthy again, are you? My understanding is that somehow your message is not getting out on Twitter, ma'am.
Jay Bhattacharya
Well, it's very sad. A few days ago I posted about an alternative health remedy which is over the counter. It's perfectly safe. And my. I got kicked off of X again. We just settled with Elon Musk and his team, you know, a settlement I can't describe. My co plaintiff was President Trump for the first time. They kicked us off of X in 2021 for warning about exactly this. Right. But they're not done with me. They've kicked me off again. And the reason they keep telling me I'm being locked out of my X account with about 450,000 people who follow me ranges from paid partnerships. When I thank my sponsors, as everyone in independent media does, as you just did, for instance, on this show, everybody does it. But also when I just link to my own website or substack, Daily Cloud or Outspoken, it's my own thing and it's free. And they're calling it a paid partnership and locking me out. And also they accused me of impersonation because I linked and promoted a show by Shannon Joy, who's one of the commentators on my network. I said something like, watch the Shannon Joy Show. So for these absolutely insane and absurd reasons, they keep kicking me off. They forced me to delete posts. Going like 30 plus posts.
Donald Trump
Is anything this audience can do to assist?
Jay Bhattacharya
That's a good question. I mean, you can, I guess, let X know and let Elon Musk know that they need to stop muzzling me. I think it's very petty. I guess the only other thing you can do is Support us on DailyClout IO and over on my substack because I'm gonna have to do them again.
Donald Trump
Where do people. Where do people go to support you? We gotta bounce because I'm banned for life. So where do people go to support you, ma'am?
Jay Bhattacharya
It's terrible. Go to Substack and it's my substack, Outspoken. You can subscribe or donate there. You can follow me. It's the last living platform. Or over on DailyCloud IO where you find also all the war room, Daily Cloud, Pfizer documents, reports, and you can also help by Ordering the wonderful book that Skyhorse and the Steve Bannon imprint produced called Pfizer Papers. And we'll just fight on, I hope.
Donald Trump
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room
Episode: Episode 4463: Trump Bans Gain Of Function Research
Release Date: May 5, 2025
Host/Author: WarRoom.org
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program to bring the most up-to-the-minute information on the news of the day. Stephen K. Bannon brings medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and those on the front lines for a comprehensive look at the latest news from all angles and provides their insider insights.
Donald Trump initiated the episode by lauding the signing of an executive order that bans gain of function (GoF) research in the United States. He emphasized the historical lack of benefits from such research and its potential risks.
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Trump addressed concerns about the administration cutting a billion dollars from mental health programs in schools, attributing the cuts to eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse.
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The discussion shifted to the implementation of MAHA-aligned bills across various states, focusing on reforms to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).
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Trump and his guests discussed reforms in the pharmaceutical sector, particularly focusing on reducing reliance on foreign drug manufacturers and increasing domestic production.
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A substantial portion of the episode focused on the dire conditions within the Fulton County Jail and broader criminal justice reforms advocated by the administration.
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The episode covered the ongoing situation regarding Ed Martin's confirmation as a U.S. Attorney, highlighting the bipartisan support he has garnered despite opposition.
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Stephen Collinson introduced discussions on the weaponization of the US Dollar, linking it to global economic strategies and the importance of gold as a financial hedge.
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The conversation delved deeper into the implications of GoF research and criticized pharmaceutical companies for unethical practices.
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Jay Bhattacharya addressed issues related to censorship on social media platforms, specifically discussing his own experiences with being banned from X (formerly Twitter).
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Episode 4463 of Bannon's War Room covered a wide array of topics centered around the Trump administration's policies and initiatives. Key discussions included the termination of gain of function research, reforms in mental health and SNAP programs, pharmaceutical industry critiques, prison system overhauls, and the confirmation of Ed Martin as a U.S. Attorney. The episode also delved into economic strategies involving the US Dollar and gold, as well as concerns about media censorship affecting free speech. Throughout the episode, notable figures like Donald Trump, Jay Bhattacharya, and Mike Howe provided their insights, often citing specific examples and calling for legislative and societal changes to align with their agendas.
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to capture the essence of the discussions without endorsing or verifying the factual accuracy of the statements made by the speakers.