
Episode 4467: Media Continues To Lie About Trade Policy; Reshoring Manufacturing And Rebuild Our Economy ...
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Economist or Analyst
Keeps saying we're spending $200 billion a year to subsidize Canada. But for fact sake, that is not remotely true. It's not even clear what he's talking about. He might be talking about the trade deficit, but last year America's trade deficit with Canada in goods and services was only about 45 billion. Even when you look at just the goods, the deficit was 63 billion. But there is a bigger problem. This is not a subsidy to begin with. And I want you to think about this. Think about this administration for a moment. It is filled with the wealthiest group of businessmen we have ever seen in any modern White House. Yet not a single one of them has explained to the President that when the richest country in the world, that's us, buys more stuff from other countries than they buy from us, it's not a subsidy. We want and need the stuff that those other countries make. We don't have the resources to make everything in America or we've chosen not to. Part of capitalism is American companies making choices about whether or not they would rather produce things here or import them from other countries. Importing is not necessarily a bad thing. A trade deficit is not necessarily a bad thing. And the businessmen surrounding the President in this White House, they know that, but they appear to have no interest in telling him. Which leaves our economy in the hands of someone who apparently wants to isolate America as the rest of the world economy is moving on without us. These cases involving the administration and immigration policy, we keep hearing about due process applying to non citizens. Many people are asking why. Can you explain this?
Moderator or Host
Absolutely.
Legal Expert or Constitutional Scholar
Due process is guaranteed by the Constitution in two different places. It was one of the foundational guarantees that the founders of this country insisted upon. It was a key cause of the revolution. It traces its roots all the way back to the Magna Carta in 1215. And I say all that because these are not just words on a page. This is one of the most foundational promises of a free and democratic society. Without due process, any of us can be snatched up off the street, imprisoned, deported, without any trial, without any hearing, without a judge even taking a look to see if there are charges against us, to see if those charges are legitimate. It is fundamentally anti American to reject the premise of due process. After the Civil War, one of the very first things that the Reconstruction Congress did was apply the guarantee of due process to the states so that everyone would be protected. The states, the federal government, the President himself, every single government official in this country must respect every person's right to due process. Not Just every citizen, not just every lawful immigrant, but every person. That's not me riffing. That is the language of the Constitution. It literally could not be clearer.
Political Commentator
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised to see that this completely unthought out, sort of off the cuff tariff deal hasn't resulted in China bending to American wheel. Well, who could have predicted that?
Economist or Analyst
Everyone. Anyone who has ever studied economics, global economics, or China could have told you that.
Political Commentator
So, yeah, have to wonder what the end game is here because it just has seemed to be so haphazard and random and just simply not strategically thought out. I don't know what they thought was going to be the outcome of this unforced error of just declaring a war on our closest trading partners and allies.
Political Analyst
It kind of beggars the imagination.
Economist or Analyst
Have we ever seen our Constitution been tested in this way like this before?
Legal Expert or Constitutional Scholar
I think only the Civil War could be a comparison to our current moment to see a president, and frankly also a Congress, abandon these basic premises of our Constitution. You know, the framers really did not envision a president as corrupt and lawless as Trump entering office. They constructed an office whose holder would not be able to wield so power and pushed down so many checks and balances. Unfortunately, the United States Supreme Court took away a lot of the checks and balances on the president in decisions like the horrible immunity ruling from last summer. And so we are left now with a president who feels understandably that he's empowered to push aside any constitutional restrictions that clash with his agenda. She came in saying he wanted to do mass deportations. And the reality is you cannot do deportations at that scale without violating due process, the rights of both immigrants and citizens who will be caught up in those raids. I mean, we had ICE raids here in Washington, D.C. today. Masked agents bursting into restaurants attempting to arrest undocumented immigrants. What if a citizen was there and was Hispanic and didn't have their passport on them and got snatched up and put on a plane that was sent to El Salvador without due process? That person is gone, possibly forever. That's why the Supreme Court intervened recently to try to put some restraints on what Trump is doing here. But the Supreme Court has not been a consistent protector of liberty under this administration yet. And I really hope it wakes up to the threat that Trump poses.
Conservative Commentator
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Legal Expert or Constitutional Scholar
And where do people like that go to share the big L. MAGA Media?
Political Commentator
I wish in my soul, I wish.
Legal Expert or Constitutional Scholar
That any of these people had a conscience.
Conservative Commentator
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War room.
Political Commentator
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. All right, morning everyone. Dave, Brett sitting in with the great Stephen K. Band and he's out on assignment today. So I got a thousand newspapers in front of me. Yesterday was a little bit slower. News day today is absolutely huge. I'll just start off with a few remarks. Stephanie Ruel from MSNBC there. The whole world is moving on without us. The whole world is moving on without us. I was in a room with 20ambassadors last night who love the United and are in trade talks with us. They're not moving on without us. They want us. They want to be friends. So she missed those 20 and I think she's wrong on a whole host of other countries that are moving our way. But she's not alone. Msnbc, on the more liberal progressive side of things, is in agreement with the Wall Street Journal, one of our favorite papers here at the War Room. Tongue in cheek. Washington's trade war spurs other nations to make deals. So here's the Wall Street Journal. You think they would know their business and economics here? Let me read a couple lines. The US Is backing away from free trade under President Trump, but much of the rest of the world is not. Huh? The US Is backing away from free trade with whom, dear? Wall Street Journal, with, with China. Can you do free trade with a country that's a communist totalitarian surveillance state? Wall Street Journal. I'd love to hear a response to this. Are you serious that you can do that? We can do. The US can do free trade with China? Please just answer me. Just that one. Right. And that's a good start. The rest of the countries, the G20 people, you know, you. The Trump chart that came up that's, you know, kind of correlated with the size of the trade deficits is mirrored by. Exactly. Bank of America with a similar chart. Bank of America, World Bank, PricewaterhouseCoopers. I think all the G20 countries have 200 to 300% higher tariff and non tariff barriers against us than we have on them. Two to three times 300%. All of the G20 rich countries, tariffs against us are they free trade? We're backing away from free trade. And now they're moving toward free trade. They're lowering their tariff and non tariff barriers. And the Wall Street Journal, I mean come on guys, this is, this is just really bad. Who wrote this thing? Max Colchester and Kim macrial quote, the US is acting as an accelerant to the lowering of tariffs by everyone else later in the story. I mean these guys, economic theory, you know, when you do science, the theory is supposed to, you know, try to match the data or have the tell a story that matches the data. And that's what theory is. You guys are not shooting straight here. And this reporting by the Wall Street Journal, it seems similar in tone. You can tell when I hope you can tell when I'm joking. No one can match the great Steve Bannon. And so I tried to use humor as my source, but the Wall Street Journal. Let me shift over to another great newspaper that the Wall Street Journal seems to be mind melding with is the China Daily. The China Daily paper. China, China. Their headline today, Tariff Barrage hits harder in Washington. Washington's so called reciprocal tariffs. This is China writing, by the way. Right. Are hurting the US more than China? I don't think so. Because if you go out on YouTube right now, you're going to see riots and rebellions and marching in the streets of people who are not getting paid. They're not getting their wages, they're not getting their retirement benefits, they're not getting paid. Their jobs have laid them off. They're moving on to other people in China. What they do to solve that problem is they arrest. That's a novel idea. So all the people concerned about civil liberties and justice in the news clips you just saw, you might want to contact China on that one. In an exclusive interview with China Daily, Justin Yifu Lin, dean of the Institute of the New Structural Economics at Peking University, said that the US ignores basic economic rules when it claims to suffer losses from trade with China. The US is missing the rules. So we've set up the rules based order that made the whole world rich after World War II. Those rules are great. We follow them, we put them in place. Right? We founded the World bank, the imf, the United nations, all of it. We allow China into our trade regimes. They cheat, they steal our intellectual property rights. They violated every trade agreement we've had. Navarro's gone over that. He's got books on it. And China writes the following. Trade is mutually beneficial. Different countries have different comparative advantages. The US buys Chinese products because they are of better quality and cheaper than those produced in the US and vice versa, etc. It does not make any sense for the US administration to claim it suffers losses from trade with China. Look at our trade deficits. Look at the gutting of 5 million manufacturing jobs. We, the United States of America is only doing two and a half trillion dollars of manufacturing this year. China is doing five trillion dollars worth of manufacturing. A lot of that came from the United States. That's why Trump is doing what he's doing. He is moving manufacturing and therefore capital equipment back. As we said on the show Yesterday, we have 2 trillion commitments from US firms, as Steve pointed out, and 7 trillion total capital investment promises. Commitments made to President Trump. $7 trillion. The last administration, no other administration. I've never even heard of a strategy that's in the ballpark here. So there's going to be a few ripples along the way. It'd be nice that the Federal Reserve would accommodate that right to give American people jobs. They accommodate two $2.5 trillion government spending deficits every year without question. They accommodated Wall street bailouts, without question. But their dual mandate, which includes jobs and employment, it seems to be good to put the American worker back to work at wages that matter. So that's the China Daily. And then just one other piece of interest. If you want to know who China likes and who they don't like. And this is a hint for the politicians in the US I've heard a lot of folks not talking polite and not being nice to our war room friends around town here when I get up here. And so here's another headline. I want you to see it because he says the print matters. This is China Daily. Again, Navarro still up to his anti China tricks. So who do they, who does China name by name when they want to play hardball and make a point? And they're spending money on this print. Peter Navarro seems to be over the target. China is upset with Peter Navarro, not the old establishment in Congress. Right. The congressman in this town, they always say, well, there's the, there's the Freedom Caucus. They're a bunch of show horses. We're the workhorses. Well, those workhorses on the intelligence committees, et cetera, have missed a thing called China for the past 30 years. That's why we're in the ditch. Those workhorses in Congress and the Senate have also put US $37 trillion in debt. So the next time you hear your congressman or woman or senator mention they're the workhorse, they're working Hard. While these show horses are just out making noise. You may want to educate them and you might want to ask them for their statements in writing. Right? Ask them where have you put in writing your commitment on this new budget deal for $7 trillion in spending? Let's see what the workhorses have to say on paper. On the endless wars, on the 10 million border invasion, on the 37 trillion debt. Make sure they use numbers when they make their promises to you. Ask them for it in writing and then share that with all your friends. If you've got a good congressman, woman or senator, that's great. But the war room is keeping an eye on everybody. Back in the second half of the break.
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Political Commentator
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. All right everybody, back in the war room we've got EJ and Tony on the economics. Coming up, Eric Tietzo with the Russ Vote group on the budget. Eric, why don't you set the table for us on updates on the budget talks. What can we expect? The war room's been all over that. Bannon's been all over the debt and the bond market vigilantes paying attention to the debt and so bring us up to speed. Eric, thank you.
Economic Advisor
Yeah, thanks Dave. It's great to be with you. You know, the American people hired the President again because they're fed up with this woke and weaponized government. And they're looking for somebody who's going to get into it and rip it down from the inside. And that is exactly what is reflected in the President's budget proposal that just came out late last week. You're talking about a 17% net cut in spending year over year compared to FY25. That's unprecedented. I know people are thinking 17%, how about 70? Trust me, we share your view. We'd like to get there. And in some cases this budget actually does get there. When we say It's a net 17% cut that includes a massive investment in national security. You know, the one thing that the federal government is like supposed to do, defend the American people and secure the border. The President is investing in an unprecedented way in national defense while also cutting the woke and weaponized government along the way. This would be spending levels, non defense discretionary federal spending spending at the same level as 2017. So people talk about getting to pre Covid spending levels. This is actually the spending levels under Barack Obama's last year in office before the first President Trump term had his opportunity to get in there and sort of make his mark on spending. If you include inflation over the years, this would be the lowest level of non defense discretionary spending since the early aughts when I was still in college. So this is exactly what the people elected the President to do. The big question obviously is what next? You know, traditionally the President's budget has been kind of symbolic, maybe a marker. And then the House and the Senate start their appropriations process, such as it is or isn't, and work from there. I think this time's going to be different. The President means it. You see that in Doge. You see that in the work that Russ and the team are doing at omb. And I think that this is going to be the framework for the actual FY26 appropriations. And and we should expect nothing less than this budget.
Political Commentator
That's great.
Economic Advisor
From the members of the House and Senate.
Political Commentator
Great. That's great. Eric, maybe can you explain to the war room also, I mean the real good news here is this is going into law. So this budget will become law. And then, you know, the left in the future they'll have to change the law if they still believe in the rule of law. But can you explain maybe there's some interaction effects between what Doge has been doing, the personnel cuts. How does all that work together? That's not clear to many of us. So you've got the good budget cuts you're talking about, but Doge has been doing work. There's a lot of news on usaid, for example, huge personnel cuts, their university funding cuts. How do, how do all those stories kind of fit together just in a minute or two? Overview.
Economic Advisor
Sure. Happy to do my best to create some clarity here. You know, after 15 years in Washington, if there's one thing I'm convinced of, it's that they make this complicated on purpose in order to avoid accountability. Right. So here's what we're talking about. There was a budget resolution that was passed and that has to do with teeing up reconciliation. That is an entirely separate thing from what we're talking about here. What we're talking about is the President's budget proposal for FY 2026. Looking forward. Reconciliation has to do with reconciling spending that's already been passed into law with the budget resolution. What we're talking about here is the future. Where are we going?
Political Commentator
Right.
Economic Advisor
And what Congress is supposed to do now is take this budget that the President has proposed and use it as the framework for the FY 2026 appropriations process that they'll go through. In an actual world, that means that the 12 Appropriations subcommittees go through the budget line by line and figure out exactly how they want to spend taxpayer money. Right. Moving forward. This is the President saying, I think you should do it this way. And when it comes to dogeco, what you see in this President's budget is the DOGE identified opportunities for cuts put into law, put into writing. So when the President says we got to get rid of all of this weaponized and wasteful and, and progressive money that's going to NGOs through international aid programs, that is reflected in the cuts that he's proposed in this budget, and so on and so forth. And now, as I said, it becomes incumbent on Congress to actually take that proposal and make it real.
Political Commentator
Right. Very good. Excellent. Outstanding. Eric, hang with us. EJ Antoni is also with us. He's got a bombshell you're going to. Your heads are going to explode on this one, E.J. let us have it.
Political Analyst
David. I tell you what, the big downward revisions for Biden administration ERA data keep coming in thick and fast. The latest that we literally just got this morning at 10:00am from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that in the third quarter of last year, a period when we were previously told the economy added 399,000 jobs, it turns out that private sector job growth in that quarter was precisely zero. We added no private sector jobs during that time.
Political Commentator
Again, Steve would say hit rewind. Say that one again.
Political Analyst
In the third quarter of last year. So that's the period from the end of June through the end of September. We were told that last year the economy added 399,000 jobs after all the already existing downward revisions. We so supposedly added almost 400,000 non farm payrolls, as they're called. And now the latest data from the Business Employment Dynamics Report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, these are official government numbers, shows the private sector added exactly zero jobs on net during that time. In other words, all the job losses equaled the job gains, a net zero change. So there goes 399,000 jobs that we supposedly had. You know, once again, David, this is an example of where we got data that was inaccurate. Of course it was inaccurate to the upside. In other words, things looked better than they actually were. And this is a big reason why President Trump got reelected last November. People could only be told so much. Don't believe your lying eyes and don't believe your empty wallets. Didn't matter how many times the media told us everyone has jobs. There were a lot of people sitting there who couldn't get jobs, at least not very good ones. And this report confirms that. Now, of course, these, these data that we got today are essentially going to be part of the annual revisions. But those annual revisions don't come out right away. As the name implies, annual. They only come out once a year, and they cover a period from March of one year to March of the next. So that means that we're not actually going to get these data until next year. In other words, we're not going to see the total impact on the jobs numbers during the Biden during the entirety of the Biden. And what was last year until 2020.
Political Commentator
What was last year's, what was last year's revision? Just as a reminder to the war.
Political Analyst
Room, it was a downward revision of 800,000. I mean, it was absolutely massive. And, and what that, what that essentially covers, though, is just so people understand these aren't calendar years the way the Bureau of Labor Statistics does. This is from March of one year to March of the next. So it essentially includes quarter, quarter one of a certain year and quarter two, three and four of the previous year. Again, it runs from March of one year to March of the next. So it doesn't quite line up with the calendar.
Political Commentator
Yep, outstanding. E.J. give me. And then, Eric, if you're still with us, give us, you know, we cover the downers and the reality of the papers. But President Trump, you know, trillion capital investment committed by US firms, 7 trillion overall from other countries coming this way. How would you frame that good news for the American workers, for manufacturing, for jobs back, E.J. and then, Eric?
Political Analyst
Well, we got to remember, when we're talking about all this investment pouring into this country, what are people getting in exchange for this investment? In other words, this capital surplus, all this capital flowing into the country, which is going to create American jobs, it's going to create revenue streams for Americans. Right. We're going to see return on investment here as well as return on investment abroad. That's great. When we see capital flowing into the country, that's the flip side of the trade deficit. We, we often look at the trade deficit and we think that it's always and everywhere bad. It's really not. You think of a trade deficit like putting on weight. You can put on weight for a good reason or a bad reason. You can either be gaining muscle because you're working out, or you can be gaining fat because you're eating too much and not working out. When we talk about all this investment pouring into the country, that's like putting on muscle. Conversely, when we're selling off all of our farmland to the Chinese Communist Party, that's like putting on fat. So when we talk about trade and we talk about all these trade negotiations, remember we're trying to get a better deal for American exporters and for American workers. We are not trying to eliminate the trade deficit. The trade deficit very oftentimes gets a bad rap. But the flip side of the trade deficit right now is an investment surplus, and that's a good thing. We don't want to see that go away because that investment surplus is how we get, again, more American jobs and more return on investment.
Political Commentator
Eric, why don't you close us out? One minute left. Eric, why don't you close us out?
Economic Advisor
Just think about what EJ Is saying. Every job that was created under the Biden administration was a government job. Every single job. That's not an economy. I agree with E.J. you do want this capital investment, but you want it to flow into real productive capacity, real industry. And I'm excited that the president is leading America into a place where all these government workers whose budget he's cutting will have a place to go and get a real job before long.
Political Commentator
Yep. Great news, E.J. antoni, Eric Teachel, thanks for being with us. You're not Going to get two smarter guys together only on the War Room. Make sure you're sharing this show, this platform and all the hard work Steve Band puts in every day with all your friends. This what I have people I go across the country talking now and everywhere I go, people once they watch this show, the other news shows are just weak. It's the only way to put it. The War Room stands unique what Steve puts together every day with these hundreds of newspapers. Unbelievable. Stay tuned.
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Political Commentator
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. All right, Dave Bratton, war room sitting with the great Stephen K. Bannon out on assignment. I'm just going to share one quick headline. Huge New York Times lead opinion piece. Again, just total distortion of reality coming from these. The elitist crew. The presidency has become too powerful by Jack Goldsmith. President Trump's wrecking ball second term has revealed the full latent power of the presidency. Thank God. Perhaps Jack Goldsmith has forgotten about the latent power of President Biden that he exerted. Bringing in 10 million illegal immigrants, strategically coordinated events, a million dead boys laying over Ukraine, Russia that could have been easily avoided. 37 trillion in debt. Biden pardons everybody on the way out the door. And Jack Goldsmith, the opinion leader here at the New York Times, instead of weighing in, he was, I think he's under George Bush. It says. Yeah. So instead of going after Congress. Right. Why isn't anybody going after Congress? If The President's too powerful. Well, why don't you write a letter about the Congress not doing anything? That seems to be a more, more profitable way to go. Anyway, on that note, we've got Dave Walsh coming in to explain President Trump is using his full latent powers to restore our economy and restore energy. And so, Dave, give it to us. I think you've got a chart up for us and so just call for it when you need it.
Energy Expert
You know, electrification in abundance at low cost is certainly at the core of any ability to reshore manufacturing and restructure and rebuild the economy and for us to export heavily again industrial products. We've had recently a majority of the major grid coordinators, pjm, miso, the Southwest Power Poll, swac, which is California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, before Congress reporting out in more vigorous terms than I use the electric electrification shortage in all of their regions and These regions include 280 million US citizens. We've got half of the regions in the country under warning by NERC for the National Electoral Liability association for shortages and brownouts like the one in Spain affecting possibly up to half the people in the country across the upper Midwest, the West in sbp, pjm, which is where you're sitting, Dave, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, miso, which is 15 states in the Midwest covering about 40 million people. Warnings in the, in the peak days of the summer heat and the peak days of winter cold. The accelerated possibility of brownouts due to not enough electrification. MISO has made a big point of this. I have a slide, one slide to show about that, how this, how this works. If you look the Blue line across 2042, this is within MISO again, 15 states across the Midwest, 40 million people. The blue line is the advertised rating plate capacity of new generation being added out there, which looks like a lot, looks like close to 60 gigawatts. The trouble is that's momentary maximum capacity. That number the rating plate number, the real energy capacity is the red line. And you can see net net capacity on continuous energy is reducing in the same period by close to 38% because all of the resources being bid in to be built in the next 20 years across miso basically are solar. A the big part now, solar, secondly, wind, third battery storage, little bit of gas turbine combined cycle that actually runs all the time. But in the vast majority, 80% of the queue. What investors are bidding into MISO to erect and PJM to erect and actually around the country is all solar and battery storage based on taking advantage of these huge incentives, incentives to buy equipment from China, install it here and go ahead and electrify with vastly reduced energy equipment it. So you've got a lot of the country under warning for brownouts just the same as Spain had. And we came perilously close last summer in spp, the southwest power pool. Fifteen states on three separate days in August of losing the grid there under severe warnings of a resource advisory on August 23, August 25, a conservative operations advisory and finally on the 26th an emergency alert because 37,000 megawatts of wind in that region, in that huge region, 15 states dropped to 1200 megawatts all of a sudden. So we had warning advisories that we were that close on a. If you go to a Monte Carlo simulation or gambling, we were that close to losing that whole grid last summer, Texas, just two years before, eight separate days we were that close. Within 5 to 6% of losing the entire grid because of now not enough electrification due to the mass adoption of part time, very part time devices. This just doesn't work mathematically and the grid and the grid management are saying it's very loud and clear.
Political Commentator
Yep, good. Dave, give us closing minute. How did we get here? The border. The border invasion. 10 million orchestrated this almost. You know, no one's, no one's this incompetent. How did this happen and how long will it take us to turn it around into. In about a minute.
Energy Expert
The left in Sierra Club put a wrecking ball to nuclear power about 35 years ago. Basically we stopped erecting new nuclear in this country that we now love again. Thank God we stopped erecting it 35 years ago. The capacity to build that now is very very limited here. Then under the Obama administration his eight years in office put a wrecking ball, this is well documented through his DOE and EPA to the coal industry. So where we were about 53% coal fired continuous duty baseload coal pile equals storage four months worth of storage. Put a wrecking ball to that industry wanted to terminate coal. And those were the words of his EPA which, which helped us attack the clean power plant via scotus that they were overreaching their power and their charter in doing so. But he put a wrecking ball to coal. Biden during his administration put a wrecking ball to gas fired combined cycle power plants which is now 42% of the electrification of the country. Stuff that runs all the time based on American natural gas. He put in place EPA mandates to discontinue unless carbon capture were applied natural gas fired power by within about six years. So The Democrats have consistently made moves under the guise of no strategy, only a carbon reduction strategy. Nothing about added energy to SAP the electrification of the country. So look at the last six years. We've added supposedly 330,000 megawatts of equipment, only adding only.4% growth in energy because it's all part time stuff. It's 90% of its battery storage and solar, which operates five hours a day and two hours a day respectively. That's a disaster.
Political Commentator
Very outstanding, Dave. We got to bring in Erik Prince on the latest India, Pakistan news. How do people get you, Dave?
Energy Expert
Reach me on the getter. True Social and X at Dave Walsh Energy. Thank you, Dave.
Political Commentator
Thanks. Hugely important Dave Walsh. Follow him. Erik Prince and headline Washington Post. Today India hits Pakistan and retaliatory strikes. Pakistan says they're going to punch back. How serious is this Erik Prince with us? He's one of the most knowledgeable guys about all things military in the world. Lucky to have him on the war room. Welcome, Eric. What's going on over in India? Pakistan.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's quite an intro, Dave. Thank you. Look, the last time that India hit back at Pakistan some years ago, all of their bombs missed. They had spent a lot of money and it's very dangerous when you spend a lot of money to think that spending money equals capacity because clearly the last time they hit the targeting data, the geocoordinates and elevation have to be exactly right for the bomb to hit where it's supposed to. I think in this case, the attacks which were obviously done by Muslim extremists inside India, I'm not convinced that it was with any kind of actual Pakistani government sponsorship. The fact is the Pakistani military is battling the Pakistani Taliban, takes up about 60% of the military's efforts combating them along the Afghan border. I would not be surprised if those same Pakistani Taliban stimulated this attack to cause this level of trouble with India. But both the Indian military is not very capable, not very serious and you know, Pakistan will try to hit back. I don't see this going anywhere because both of those countries would suffer massively if they got into an actual dust up with tens of millions of refugees on top of, you know, displaced people, casualties and mayhem. Both of those countries are kind of living on the edge as it is. The last thing they need is a war.
Political Commentator
Good, good. Well, hey, that's positive, more positive news. You won't hear it in any of the mainstream media. The Wall Street Journal, I just covered today, just total misinformation on the progress Trump's making on Trade. One of the biggest moves is with India Modi. They, they had a great meeting. It looks like India has made a bunch of moves that are pro US Trump likes win wins. Are you following India? How do you think we're doing with India? And then any, any more you want to report on the trade wars and how that's going to make the US Great again?
Stephen K. Bannon
You know, I would not be that excited if we got to a 0,0 trade deal with India because their cost of labor is a micro fraction of what ours is in United States. Their cost of environmental compliance is zero compared to what it is the United States. It would put a lot of US Manufacturing at a significant disadvantage. Look, Dave, I'm very old school on tariffs. I think a flat 10 or 15% tariff on anything coming to the United States is a good thing. I think protecting domestic manufacturing is a very good thing. And until the idea of free trade with a country where less than 50% of the people actually use toilets is a fool's errand. And the last time I was in Delhi was four years ago and on the there was a big billboard in the airport from the National Ministry of Health saying help us reach our goal this year of 50% toilet use across the country. So I don't get all excited about anything to do with India culturally not like us at all. And a long ways to go until their manufacturing has the same cost structure that America's does. And I would rather protect the American heartland versus in any way making India great.
Political Commentator
Yeah, I agree. I think that's all spot on and I think that is part of the trade framework. It's trade, non trade, unfair practices, all that's in the negotiation. I think you know all that and that's why you said the 10%. There's a buffer until we get there. The good news in my mind there had to do with the second most populous country on Earth, India as a strategic vehicle versus China. From what I'm and I want to get you on to hear what you're hearing in China. I mean, I'm out on YouTube and there's riots and protests in the streets across China there. It's not a one off. People wages not getting paid, no benefits, retirement is out of whack, the youth are upset. Xi could be in trouble, according to some folks. What do you know on that one, Eric?
Stephen K. Bannon
Even before this trade dust up, what I can even tell you from Trump Administration 45, the Chinese Communist Party was very concerned about Trump's policy on trade and actually getting tough with them. Now that he's actually clearly gotten tough with them, it is a massive threat that the Chinese people kind of have this deal with the Chinese Communist Party that they're supposed to deliver economic development and in exchange, people have effectively no rights and no actual freedoms. And now that the economic growth is very much in peril in the short term, there's going to be major unrest because of it. And on top of that, Xi's, Xi's war on corruption before that really crushed a lot of the entrepreneur class and created the small medium enterprises which were creating the jobs, that's all largely dried up. And when you take Jack Ma, who's the Bezos? Steve Jobs of China and you disappear him from society and he reemerges six months later having embraced supervision because he said something negative against the state, that's a problem. So China has, yeah, they wrote a wave of massive economic expansion for years and G has crushed that innovation.
Political Commentator
Can you hold with us over the break? Eric, we're going to break. I'd love to get you back. I want to see if there's other even more hardline power brokers in line to replace Xi. Your comments on that after the break. Stay tuned. War Room posse, back in one minute.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. All right, Dave Bradley, War Room. The great Stephen K. Band Bannon. Today, one of the War Room favorites, Erik Prince. Everyone weighs his words very carefully. Eric, give us a closing 2 minute summary on China, China's weakening and Xi's position within that weakening apparatus of the ccp.
Stephen K. Bannon
So even in China, there's political factions. Xi is part of the young princelings. His father literally rolled with Mao back in the day for the Long March. There's the Shanghai faction, which he really crushed over Covid and the Communist Youth League. Those two segments have been degraded a lot. However, the, the weakening of the economy, the uncertainty around economic growth and all those things have definitely made Xi's inevitability impaired. On top of that, all the generals that surround him have all paid for their positions. And so it's a very interesting quandary what they're going to do on Taiwan, because the generals, I'm sure, are saying, let's go. They believe their own, they're high on their own supply. And Xi needs to make a deal to have some kind of economic pathway through this. So I think Trump is in a very good position to hold their feet to the fire and to correct it. If Trump had not done this, the consolidation of economic, of manufacturing in China outside the United States was getting to the point of no return. And so it is high time to bring a lot of that manufacturing back to America, whether it's pharmaceuticals, chips, electronics, a lot of things we take for granted. It makes sense to make it in America, not in China, not with, not with people that hate our, our Constitution, our freedoms and our way of life.
Political Commentator
Yeah, excellent. Outstanding overview. Last short question. Is China past the point where they can just crush their population? Social media communication over there, if the hardliners come in, I think the Taiwan play, like you said, is, is a way they can pull that off. But can, can they still just 100% repress their people like Tiananmen?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, that was a very small segment. There was a few thousand people. They brought troops from the most rural areas, the most ignorant troops to come in and smash them. I'd say just like the Soviet Union, what the United States did with the Catholic Church and the British MI6, we weakened the, the ability in Poland and inside the Soviet Union for the state to control everything. China has dozens of different ethnicities, and if you look at China's history over the last two millennia, they come together under a strong dictator and then they fragment apart. And I think if we help China come apart and come apart into some of its component parts, where it's not all under the Chinese Communist Party, that is in our interest, that's in the neighbor's interest, and that is a better to reduce the hegemony that China has over their neighbors. And that will require some strong trade practices and I would say some strong covert action and cleverness by the US Government. I'm not convinced we're there on the trade. I'm not convinced in the COVID action side. The agency is up to it yet, but who knows, maybe the leadership will come through.
Political Commentator
Yeah. Unbelievable. Erik Prince, national treasure. Blessing. Eric, thanks for being on with us. God bless you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thanks, Dave.
Political Commentator
Have a good one. You too. All right, Mark Lucas on deck. Mark, you with us? And if so, if you want to comment on anything you just heard and I think you got an ad we're going to play and you can explain that one. But any comment on on the previous.
Moderator or Host
Yes, Dave, thanks for having me on. We sure live in a very volatile world and I think it's is just a testimony to the complete freedom of maneuver that Joe Biden gave to America's enemies. You know, I saw this in Afghanistan. I came in in 2010 and the enemy was given quite the freedom of maneuver and we had to stir up a hornet's nest. So President Trump is America's first foreign policy. It's going to take some time to get its footing, whether it's with the Houthis or with the Ukraine war. But I'm very optimistic that President Trump is also our negotiator in chief. Looks like he landed a solid deal with the Houthis because we want peace and veteran action and war fighters like myself. We do not want to get entangled in these forever wars.
Political Commentator
Yep, you got a clip. Why don't you set us up for the clip before you play it? Give us 10, 10 seconds on what we're about, ready to see and why veteran action, what you're doing.
Moderator or Host
Pete Buttigieg is coming to my home state of Iowa next week for veteran town hall and we wanted to remind Iowans and the whole country about Pete Buttigieg's woke and radical agenda for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Political Commentator
Denver. You want to roll it? Pete Buttigieg is fighting Donald Trump's VA reforms and he's pushing a WOKE agenda. He backed taxpayer funded sex changes and wanted to rewrite Lincoln's VA motto, making it more gender inclusive. Buttigieg wants to take us back back to Joe Biden's broken woke VA veterans deserve better, not woke politics. All right, Mark, give us, give us the overview, what you're up to with your group. And all political views are my own. But Mark, have at it.
Moderator or Host
Well, veteran action, I built this to be a smash Mouth grassroots political organization that fights for our veterans and promotes President Donald Trump's America first foreign policy. And we're not going to allow these radical leftists like Pete Buttigieg to come to Iowa to attack President Trump and his VA agenda. You know Pete Buttigieg, he won the Iowa caucus in 2020. He narrowly lost the New Hampshire primary. He was a very formidable candidate and he turned in to be one of the most effective surrogate for Joe Biden. So no Democrat is going to come into Iowa uncontested. And Veteran Action is going to bring this smash mouth philosophy that I learned with my good friend Mike Davis. You know, Mike Davis and I went to college together at the University of Iowa. He's my senior counsel at Veteran Action. And I helped build the A3P action center, which I'm bringing that same approach to Veteran Action. So not only can you see that ad, but we're encouraging the war room pop to go to veterinaction.org, click on the Take Action button and contact your lawmakers. Tell them to pass the Veteran Access Act. We believe that veterans deserve choice in their health care. They should get expedient care. We shouldn't have to wait for arbitrary wait times like a 30 minute drive or a 20 day wait. So Veteran Action, you can contact your lawmaker via phone, email and on social media. You can take all three of those actions in less than five minutes. The strategy is proven. We used it to promote President Trump's cabinet. Cash Patel and Pete Hegseth, they told Mike Davis and I that those nominees were dead on arrival. A3P changed the politics and now Veteran Action is doing the same thing for vets.
Political Commentator
Great. Hey, Mark. Well, we're going to hold you over the break. Stay with us for a minute. You can close it up. And we thank you for what you're doing for the veterans. Get your comments right after the break. Stay with us.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room Episode 4467: Media Continues To Lie About Trade Policy; Reshoring Manufacturing And Rebuild Our Economy Release Date: May 7, 2025
Bannon's War Room delivers a comprehensive analysis of current trade policies, economic strategies, and geopolitical tensions, emphasizing the need for reshoring manufacturing to rebuild the American economy. Hosted by Stephen K. Bannon and featuring insights from economists, legal experts, political commentators, and energy specialists, this episode delves into the intricacies of trade deficits, budget reforms, and international relations.
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This episode of Bannon's War Room provides an in-depth examination of the current economic landscape, critiquing both domestic policies and international relations. Through expert analysis and robust discussion, the episode advocates for strategic economic reforms, increased investment in American manufacturing, and cautious engagement with global powers to ensure the United States' continued prosperity and security.