Episode 4502: The WHO Continues To Propagate lies In Geneva; Life 3.0 Being Human

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4502: The WHO Continues To Propagate Lies In Geneva; Life 3.0 Being Human

Release Date: May 21, 2025

Introduction

In Episode 4502 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into critical global and national issues, primarily focusing on the World Health Organization (WHO) and the emerging challenges posed by artificial intelligence (AI). The episode features insightful discussions with experts like Nor Ben Lydon, Max Tegmark, Michael Lindell, Jane Zirkel, and John Solomon. This summary captures the key points, debates, and conclusions drawn during the episode.

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1. The United States and the World Health Organization (WHO)

Guests: Nor Ben Lydon

Stephen Bannon opens the episode with a conversation with Nor Ben Lydon about the United States' ongoing withdrawal from the WHO.

• US Exit Process: Lydon explains that President Trump initiated the process of exiting the WHO with an executive order signed on day one of his administration. The withdrawal is set to take a full year, becoming effective in January 2026. Despite the withdrawal process, the US is still expected to pay membership fees for 2024 and 2025. However, the Trump administration has refused to fulfill these payments, resulting in a significant budget shortfall for the WHO.

  Nor Ben Lydon [00:42]: "President Trump's moves to exit the WHO is really front and center here this week. But it's a one year long process. So on day one of President Trump's new administration, he signed an executive order to kickstart the process of leaving."

• Financial Implications: The refusal to pay dues has led to a budget reduction of approximately $260 million for the WHO this year, causing distress among WHO officials, including Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

  Nor Ben Lydon [02:08]: "President Trump's administration is refusing to pay, leading to the WHO members here this week, including Tedros Gabriel Reese, who's the Director general, to be shedding quite a few tears about the slash in budgeting."

• Political Maneuvering: Bannon emphasizes the strategic impact of the US withdrawal, suggesting that it diminishes the WHO’s influence and highlights the internal weaknesses of the organization.

  Stephen Bannon [02:08]: "So reality set in. They know the United States is out. And now you're having the gnashing of teeth and the wringing of hands, ma' am."

Key Discussions:

• World Health Assembly (WHA): The absence of US delegates at the annual WHA meeting underscores the effective withdrawal, signaling reduced American influence in global health governance.

  Nor Ben Lydon [02:43]: "President Trump's administration sent a strong signal at this year's World Health assembly that no US Delegates are present here."

• Pandemic Treaty Concerns: Lydon addresses concerns regarding the WHO's efforts to draft a pandemic treaty, highlighting the lack of consensus and the postponement of critical components like the Pathogen Access and Benefit-Sharing (PABS) system.

  Nor Ben Lydon [07:09]: "They are trying to pretend that this is a huge thing, victory. They're calling this a win for multilateralism, when in fact it is anything but."

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2. The Future of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Human Control

Guest: Max Tegmark

The episode transitions to a deep dive into the implications of artificial intelligence with renowned AI researcher Max Tegmark, author of "Life 3.0."

• AI’s Dual-Edged Sword: Tegmark discusses the immense potential of AI to revolutionize industries and improve lives, juxtaposed with the existential threats it poses if left unchecked.

  Max Tegmark [10:16]: "AI is like a knife. It's just the most powerful tech that we will ever have built."

• Regulatory Necessity: Emphasizing the need for robust regulations, Tegmark warns against leaving AI development solely in the hands of tech conglomerates based in San Francisco, advocating for moral and ethical oversight.

  Max Tegmark [12:54]: "It's insane if we let the people who are just trying to make a buck off of AI make all the decisions about how it's gonna be used."

• States’ Rights vs. Federal Control: The discussion highlights the tension between state-level regulations and federal preemption in managing AI advancements. Tegmark criticizes legislative attempts to override state controls for a decade, labeling it a "massive power grab."

  Max Tegmark [30:46]: "It's complete insanity. And I'm actually very proud of Josh Harley for calling it out as the giant corporate boondoggle that it is."

Key Discussions:

• Economic Impacts: The potential for AI to replace a significant portion of the workforce, leading to economic disparities and loss of income for ordinary Americans.

  Max Tegmark [13:42]: "The largest American AI companies are all saying that their goal is to build machines that can do all the jobs basically all Americans better than we can in two to five years."

• Moral Leadership: Tegmark advocates for inclusive decision-making involving diverse stakeholders, including moral leaders like Reverend Johnny Moore, to ensure AI benefits society at large.

  Max Tegmark [26:54]: "They want to have a say in this, to make sure that this technology actually benefits Americans and not just San Francisco CEOs."

• Historical Context: Drawing parallels between the Industrial Revolution and the current AI boom, Tegmark underscores the transformative and potentially disruptive nature of technological advancements.

  Max Tegmark [20:33]: "If we actually treat the AI companies like everyone else and have some safety standards for them, we can cure cancer with AI."

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3. Michael Lindell’s Legal Battle and Election Integrity

Guest: Michael Lindell

Michael Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, shares his ongoing legal struggles related to election fraud claims and the impact on his business.

• Upcoming Trial: Lindell announces his upcoming jury trial scheduled for June 2nd, asserting that his defense against lawsuits is crucial not only for his company but also for the broader fight to secure election integrity.

  Michael Lindell [34:06]: "June 2nd, the trial starts and they come after my pillow. Like my pillow and my employees."

• Corporate Resistance: Highlighting his refusal to settle despite financial pressures, Lindell emphasizes his commitment to fighting what he perceives as unjust legal actions aimed at silencing his election fraud claims.

  Michael Lindell [35:19]: "We're raising funds right now. We have to win. So the best way to do it is a win-win."

Key Discussions:

• Support from War Room Listeners: Lindell encourages listeners to support his legal battle through purchases and participation in special promotions, framing it as a fight for democracy.

  Michael Lindell [35:21]: "Promo code, War room. If you guys get a free American flag with any purchase, that's a thank you for helping MyPillow all this time."

• Impact on Employees: He underscores the personal and professional stakes involved, noting that lawsuits have targeted not just him but also his employees.

  Michael Lindell [38:07]: "Your employees, you're reaching out for them and we need funds for this trial."

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4. Jane Zirkel on Tina Peters and Colorado’s Incarceration System

Guest: Jane Zirkel

Journalist Jane Zirkel provides an in-depth analysis of Tina Peters’ incarceration, arguing that it represents political repression within Colorado’s penal system.

• Tina Peters’ Case: Zirkel describes Peters, a 69-year-old gold star mother, as a political prisoner unjustly incarcerated due to her outspoken claims of election fraud in Colorado.

  Jane Zirkel [41:26]: "Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud in Colorado and as a result, Colorado state retaliated and arguably a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners."

• Systemic Issues: She criticizes Colorado’s high incarceration rates, mandatory sentencing laws, and the disproportionate impact on women, illustrating a cycle of abuse and over-incarceration.

  Jane Zirkel [43:34]: "Colorado puts on this false facade of being this progressive, reform-heavy criminal justice system. But in reality, it epitomizes the mass incarceration epidemic in America."

Key Discussions:

• Inmate Conditions: Highlighting Tina Peters’ harsh conditions, including threats, lack of medical care, and unsafe living arrangements, Zirkel paints a picture of systemic neglect and abuse.

  Jane Zirkel [41:26]: "She was forced to sleep on the top bunk with no ladder that is not safe for anyone, let alone a woman with her conditions."

• Legal Precedents: Referencing past lawsuits, such as the 2019 ACLU case against the Larimer County Jail for inmate abuse, Zirkel underscores the persistent issues within Colorado’s correctional facilities.

  Jane Zirkel [41:26]: "There was a 2019 lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of a woman wrongly incarcerated and denied court appearances."

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5. John Solomon on the Big Beautiful Bill and Fiscal Responsibility

Guest: John Solomon

John Solomon discusses the legislative efforts to address the United States' fiscal challenges, focusing on budget cuts and governmental efficiency.

• Budgetary Constraints: Solomon explains that the proposed bill aims to reduce federal spending by $1.7 trillion, a step towards addressing the rising national deficit exacerbated by COVID-19 expenditures.

  John Solomon [50:23]: "You're going to have to fulfill the wish of Congress. That's the important thing."

• Efficiency Measures: He advocates for setting congressional appropriations as a funding ceiling rather than a floor, allowing the administration to return unused funds and promoting fiscal discipline.

  John Solomon [51:25]: "If Donald Trump could deliver what Congress asked for in his administration, the agency delivers it and he can do it for less."

Key Discussions:

• Political Will: Addressing the challenges in Congress, Solomon notes the lack of political will to enact meaningful cuts, emphasizing the need for executive action to manage the budget effectively.

  John Solomon [51:25]: "The conservatives have been crying and bitching and whining and they never cut a thing they can't the system won't let them do."

• Legislative Strategies: He outlines strategies for integrating efficiency into the bill, such as mandating that agencies return excess funds, thereby reducing overall spending without overstepping constitutional boundaries.

  John Solomon [50:37]: "It's a brilliant idea. How are we going to do that?"

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Conclusion

Episode 4502 of Bannon’s War Room provides a comprehensive exploration of significant issues ranging from global health governance and technological threats to national fiscal policies and political incarcerations. Through spirited discussions and expert insights, host Stephen K. Bannon and his guests shed light on the complexities of these challenges, advocating for strategic withdrawals from international organizations, stringent AI regulations, legal battles for election integrity, and fiscal responsibility. The episode underscores the importance of informed citizenry and proactive governance in navigating the multifaceted landscape of modern geopolitics and technology.

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Notable Quotes:

• Nor Ben Lydon [02:43]: "President Trump's administration sent a strong signal at this year's World Health assembly that no US Delegates are present here."

• Max Tegmark [10:16]: "AI is like a knife. It's just the most powerful tech that we will ever have built."

• Michael Lindell [34:06]: "June 2nd, the trial starts and they come after my pillow. Like my pillow and my employees."

• Jane Zirkel [41:26]: "Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud in Colorado and as a result, Colorado state retaliated and arguably a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners."

• John Solomon [50:23]: "You're going to have to fulfill the wish of Congress. That's the important thing."

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Additional Resources:

• FutureofLife.Org: For more information on AI and its implications.
• WarRoom.org: To access more episodes and related content.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. We're going to go to Geneva. Nor Ben Lydon, so nor. I'm totally confused. Now, through your hard efforts and work, not only did we stop, stop American involvement, I think in this, in this World Health Organization, the treaty, the pandemic treaty. In addition, President Trump made a priority that. Aren't we pulling out of the World Health Organization? Does this still have its grip on the United States of America? I thought we were out, ma' am.

[Nor Ben Lydon]

Great to be with you, Steve, and to be with the posse and reporting on the WHO here in Geneva. There are quite a few things happening, but definitely President Trump's moves to exit the WHO is really front and center here this week. But it's a one year long process. So on day one of President Trump's new administration, he signed an executive order to kickstart the process of leaving, of exiting the who. That's going to take a year. So that will only be in effect in January 2026. That being said, the membership fees, the annual membership fees for 2024, 2025 supposedly are still due, but President Trump's administration is refusing to pay that, leading to the WHO members here this week, including Tedros Gabriel Reese, who's the Director general, to be shedding quite a few tears about the slash in budgeting because that represents about US$260 million that won't be included, included in the WHO coffers this year. So you've had quite a few discussions about that. There was as well as side panel today talking about the fallout and the slash of budgeting due to the US Pulling out of the who.

[Steve Bannon]

So, hang on, hang on. So reality is set in that we're out in our money's out. And in fact, Trump's saying 24 and 25, you ain't getting it either. So Tedros and this bunch of Chinese Communist Party corrupt bureaucrats in administrative state that, remember Geneva is the engine room of the United Nations. The UN in New York is just performative. That's where they go for the TV cameras and the Security Council. But the engine room where it all works is in Geneva. So reality set in. They know the United States is out. And now you're having the gnashing of teeth and the wringing of hands, ma' am.

[Nor Ben Lydon]

Yes, especially another very strong signal that the Trump administration sent at this year's World Health assembly is that no US Delegates are present here. So just to give a little bit of context how it works, so the World Health Organization every year holds its annual meeting, which is called The World Health assembly and the WHO is comprised of 194 member states. And each member states sends their delegates each year for this week long health so called health Fest. And the US did not send any delegates this year.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, so Michele Bachmann warned, and I think you warned too. Even though we're in the process of pulling out, we're six months away. It's starting January 26th. We already notified him. Can they still pass all this madness and kind of encircle the United States? So if you want to travel, if you want to take a job overseas, if you want to do anything that they've got their tentacles around the throat of American citizens. Ma' am.

[Nor Ben Lydon]

Yes. So that's a really great question because it brings me back to what I've been covering on the WHO with you, Steve, also on the show previous years. But what we need to understand is that they've been working hard on two instruments, two kind of conventions or treaties or laws. The first, first track is the International Health Regulation Amendments to which the United States is a part of. And one thing that the administration absolutely needs to do before July 19th is actually to reject the amendments to the international health regulations which were adopted last year at the last World health assembly in 2024 here in Geneva. And obviously it is of my opinion that the US should actually just annul the international health regulations or their ratification of the international health regulations altogether. So that's the first track. The second track is this so called pandemic treaty, the pandemic agreement that we've been hearing about ad nauseam for the past four years, ever since Boris Johnson and so slew of other world leaders in March 2021 published that letter calling for all the different governments and the who, with the leadership of the who, to draft this pandemic agreement. So they've been working on this for over three years now. The first working group that was set up, their first session took place early 2022. And the reason why I wanted to show this clip of all these delegates applauding in the main hall of the United Nations European Headquarters here in Geneva is because it is so emblematic of the fakeness and performative nature of all of these entities and organizations and the people that form them, because they are trying to pretend that this is a huge thing, victory. They're calling this a win for multilateralism, when in fact it is anything but. It is a, a complete damage control operation and PR Mitigation, disaster mitigation campaign that they've put on here this entire week. In Geneva. Because the truth is that this pandemic agreement hasn't been actually signed. It's been signed, so called adopted. But the main, the main, the meat of the bone of this agreement hasn't been agreed upon. There hasn't been consensus. And they actually moved that part of the agreement, which is the TABS system, the Pathogen Access and Benefit sharing system. They've moved it to an annex and they're going to, they're going to continue negotiating on the PAB system at least until the next wha. And so in effect, this was pure, a pure like show that they put on for us because otherwise they would have been left with egg on their face because they've been working this for so long. Last year already they delayed the adoption of this agreement, saying they couldn't reach consensus. It's.

[Steve Bannon]

It'S, it's obvious they're going to try to brazen this out and, and get some weak Republicans to cave on this and get Trump to reverse it or try to get Trump to reverse, although this is what we voted for, and then try to turn it around in, if they steal it in 28. How many more days does this last, Ma' am?

[Nor Ben Lydon]

So this year's WHA is from May 19 to May 27. So I believe next Monday or Tuesday.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, we want to get you back on. We'll go to more depth about all this tomorrow. Where do people go to get your content normal?

[Nor Ben Lydon]

Well, with regards to the who, I urge people to go to the website we Hurt others dot com. I also reported a podcast with James Roguski yesterday, breaking down everything you need to know about these latest developments because it's, it's confusing and convoluted on purpose and it's very important to actually read the documents. But obviously they put you to sleep with all of their wording and nomenclature. But what, what comes out is actually very deceiving.

[Steve Bannon]

So where do they get, where do they get the podcast? You and Redusky or Fantastic. Where they go get the podcast?

[Nor Ben Lydon]

I have a channel on Rumble Norman Laden, but everything on the who is on we heard others.com you'll find all the links, all the different press releases of the who, the official documents. We've made a really good of different information that you need to know. It's basically everything you need to know about the who and with regards to the pandemic agreement, in essence, this pandemic industry that they've created out of thin air in order to push more, quote, pandemic related products and push more poison onto the population.

[Steve Bannon]

You're one of the key people. You're one of the key people to get us out of this mess. And so I know you're going to be one of the key people at the forefront of this to shut this whole mess down. Nor Bin Laden will work to try to get you back up tomorrow. I want to go back even more in depth on this. Thank you ma' am. Great work.

[Nor Ben Lydon]

Thank you very much.

[Steve Bannon]

What a warrior. Nor Ben Lund, Talk about a warrior. Andy Harris just announced. Yeah, you gotta pull that over. Andy Harris just announced that. Is this even in a camera shot, Mr. Producer? Okay, Andy Harris, I'm gonna direct where we do this. Andy Harris just announced. Hey, they made progress, they're back on. Maybe last night was not as terrible, but he's saying it's 10 days before he thinks this thing gets sorted out. So we'll give updates to go. Max Tegmark, the future of Life, one of the leading lights in artificial intelligence and particularly the dangers of artificial intelligence and what we have to do to keep our humanity. Brother, thank you so much for joining us today in the studio.

[Max Tegmark]

Thank you so much for having me on.

[Steve Bannon]

You're at Catholic University on a panel this afternoon. We're going to, we're going to live stream this at 1:30. Is that when it's going to take place?

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah, I'm really excited about this actually because I said for a long time we really need some moral leadership on AI. We can't let these big decisions about humanity's future being done by some tech bros in San Francisco.

[Steve Bannon]

So I said yesterday in the Financial Times they had this article about the populace versus the, the Berlagarchs. And I said that in Washington D.C. you need five times more regulations to open a nail salon or a hair braiding salon than the top four guys right now. You know, Altman, Musk, all of them. The top four have in all regulation on artificial intelligence. And in fact the big beautiful bill I think has a part of it and it's going to be fought, I think extensively to ban any state from putting in any regulation to slow down the march towards artificial general intelligence. How does that set with you?

[Max Tegmark]

It's obviously a giant corporate handout boondoggle for the, for these tech lobbyists. But it's also quite dangerous because you know, when the United States was formed, a core part of the agreement with the states was that they were going to have the right to make their own laws about things that really affected them. So to now come and say to these same States that, hey, you know, that was a long time ago. Forget about.

[Steve Bannon]

So you're a states rights guy when it comes to artificial stuff. By the way, Elon Musk is one of your biggest supporters. The back of the book and when I first picked it up years ago, this is a compelling guide to the challenges and choices in our quest for a great future of life, intelligence and consciousness on Earth and beyond. He's one of your biggest supporters, but now he's one of the guys driving this. Are you a Luddite? I mean, do you just don't want. Because you're one of the leading guys in artificial intelligence now you're saying, hey, we got to slow down. We're, we're going off a cliff?

[Max Tegmark]

I think so. Elon is actually the one CEO who has come up for regulations. For example, California had this state legislation, SB 1047. He supported it. All the other guys DeepMind open AI and said, no, no, no, we don't want it. He is a complex person. He is, has for the 11 years since I first met him, been consistently very afraid of us just building our own replacement. It's completely separate from all of his other opinions. I think he's been very steady there and just feeling that it's kind of crazy to do this. The other companies, I think, are just acting very predictably like you think their lobbyists sort of want them to coming back to states rights. You know, why shouldn't Texas have the right to weigh in on the most important issue of our time for 10 years?

[Steve Bannon]

You think this is most important? Why is this the most important issue of our time?

[Max Tegmark]

Oh, AI itself. Simply because, you know it's going to be vastly more impactful than the Industrial revolution, which was itself a big deal there. We built machines to figure out how to replace our muscles with faster and stronger things. And in the end it worked out pretty well for us because we could go and work with our brains instead. And now you have these companies who want to build machines that can outthink us in every possible way. And if they do that and basically end up taking all the money that's now going as income to us on our paychecks and go all to the pockets of some dudes in San Francisco, you know, who are we kidding if we think the benef that money is ever going to come back?

[Steve Bannon]

You're seeing this because in the Microsoft layoff, right? Of the 3%, they're saying 30% of that is directly related to high value added. Former coding jobs directly related to artificial intelligence are you starting to see this?

[Max Tegmark]

Those are just the first shots of the revolution. Some, some groups here and there, in this case programmers feeling it. But if you look at the websites of these corporations, they say very clearly, clearly OpenAI for example, that their goal is to replace all economically valuable work with machines. And so that's an insane power grab because you're not just talking about money here. You know, if ordinary American workers are no longer needed, do you think anyone is going to care what they want? I think it would be very naive to think that this isn't enormous power grab as well.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Max Tegmark]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Make your case.

[Max Tegmark]

It sounds like hyperbole, but it's not. The largest American AI companies are all saying that their goal is to build machines that can do all the jobs basically all Americans better than we can in two to five years.

[Steve Bannon]

And they tell investors this, they tell investors this. So they have a fiduciary. I mean they tell investors this is why you're putting the money in. Because we're looking to basically take out the workforce and replace it with combination of AGI and regenerative robotics. Right?

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah. And they try to calm ordinary people by BS claims that oh, this is not going to replace you. It's just going to, if you pay $20 a month, it's going to make you better at your job. And there's no way the numbers add up that way. The way they're going to actually make their investment back is to replace the entire person and charge 10,000 bucks from their employer to replace the whole human. And, and this is.

[Steve Bannon]

You were a huge advocate at this one time. You were one of the leaders in artificial intelligence. What was your cathartic moment when did all sudden you flip and go hey, I think that this thing may have a dark side. I didn't really understand at first.

[Max Tegmark]

Well, we have to remember technology itself is not evil. It's also not morally good. You know, a knife, is it evil? No. You can make a great barbecue with it, but you can also stab someone. AI is like that. It's just the most powerful tech that we will ever have built. So it's just incredibly important to show some moral leadership. We've done it with knives. Knives are mostly used for good things in dc, but sometimes for bad things. And that's why we have laws about this for AI. Similarly, if we actually treat the AI companies like everyone else and have some safety standards for them, we can cure cancer with AI. We can make America very strong and prosperous down here. Let's go back. That's not the direction we're going right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's go back to the Industrial Revolution. You know, mankind is kind of flat to hit the Industrial revolution in the 19th century and then productivity. So all the agricultural revolution, man's life really didn't change to hit the Industrial Revolution right by that Industrial Revolution. You saw it a little bit in the Civil War, a little bit in some of these wars. But then from 1914 to 1989, we killed, I don't know, a quarter of a billion people in like the dark. It's the new Dark Ages. Because of technology isn't technology, when it first comes on, is always used. And just mankind's nature, it always goes to some sort of weaponization, to use, to, to of. Of power. Is that history? The history of technology? Show me that or not.

[Max Tegmark]

You're saying that curiosity killed the cat.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm saying more than curiosity that people realize right away this got all kind of great. It's like in the Industrial Revolution. This is why the Civil War was so bloody, the technology was so far advanced, and hey, they'd only been around a couple of years, right?

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

If you look at the 20th century, it led to all these weapons systems from World War I all the way through that allowed mass annihilation of people, ending with nuclear weapons, biological weapons, all of this. Now we're sitting on a new generation of technology that's orders of magnitude more powerful. Why is it not going to go immediately into some sort of war making that we can't control?

[Michael Lindell]

Yeah.

[Max Tegmark]

Let me add some optimism here. You know, there's a reason why we still have not had nuclear winter which might kill 99% of all Americans. It's because people start to realize this is not something anyone wants. And we steered in the direction where we instead use it for green energy and nuclear power plants. And we have reasons to be optimistic for the same reason about AI. If the decisions are actually made by American voters democratically, we will use all this wonderful AI to build tools that can help us cure disease.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's go back to the 20th century. The reason we were able to do that is America. The Germans didn't get the bomb, the Russians got the bomb later. We always had a more. We were first and we had the most powerful arsenal. And so it was kind of reign of terror.

[Michael Lindell]

Right?

[Steve Bannon]

You can't, you can't. We just talked this morning, started the show with the golden. The golden dome to really build a ballistic missile, anti ballistic missile capability here to keep. Because now you got Pakistan, you got all these nations that got it in hypersonic. Here are we. We're not guaranteed that we're going to.

[Max Tegmark]

Be the leader in AI, but here's the optimism. You know the reason things we didn't end up in a nuclear war was because we didn't let the decision we let kept the decisions for about nuclear strikes with the US government. We didn't let the uranium industry decide what was gonna happen. Similarly, it's insane if we let the people who are just trying to make a buck off of AI make all the decisions about how it's gonna be used.

[Steve Bannon]

But here's one of the problems we just had Rudy on about a massive scandal where you had the deep state in this country with Biden. We have no earthy idea. You gotta adjudicate this. We just had followed with Nur bin Laden in Geneva saying hey, these guys were to sign us up for the whole. To make the case that the US Government per se, we're comfortable when Trump's in there and maga's running it. We're good. We're not so good. If you just got John Brennan and the rest of these guys, you're making.

[Max Tegmark]

My case for me. These tech companies are exactly the people who silenced the Hunter Biden laptop story and so much else and came out and you can look up their tweets, how they celebrate the defeat of Trump and now they're pretending that they've always been Trump's best friend. Friends. Right. Do you really trust these people to make these big decisions about the future? So this preemption legislation is simply an attempt for them to be able to continue making all the decisions themselves and not let states do anything about it. And they're trying at the federal level.

[Steve Bannon]

Also just talk about your future life. You put this together a group, what is its purpose? And let's talk about what you're talking about. At least some sort of legislation or something that allows us to get our hands around this.

[Max Tegmark]

First thing we need is to have not just these tech CEOs from San Francisco in the room, but also people who actually are guided by moral principles. That's why I'm so proud of Reverend Johnny Moore's announcement this afternoon. They want to have a say in this, to make sure that this technology actually benefits Americans and not just San Francisco CEOs. Second thing is the whole problem can be fixed if we just start stop coddling these, these San Francisco CEOs and treat them like all other companies. You know, why should there be more safety standards on sandwiches than on AI companies? You said it's five times more regulation on nail salons. Actually it's infinitely many times more because there's zero, zilch. If some company in San Francisco wants to release technology tomorrow that they can't even control, there's no law against it at all.

[Steve Bannon]

Who's coming to your cause? Who's coming to the future life? Because all as soon as chat GPT, which was the big thing they had to get around, was announced in Davos. All the venture capital, all the stock, all public equity, all they want to talk about what your AI component, Tesla spun off. Its a. They were going to become an AI company. Now he's huge in AI. It's all AI and money is chasing it non stop.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

So how do you. Who's coming to your cause? To the, to the. I'm not calling you a Luddite because I believe in your cause, but who's coming to your side?

[Max Tegmark]

First of all, there's very broad support for it from really all walks of life. You know, polls show that most Americans just hate the idea of building some sort of new digital master race, regardless of whether they're MAGA or not. It's just a disgusting, appalling idea. So most people support this. Not the tech lobbyists, of course. Second, business people generally, what do they actually want? They want tools. AI tools. They would love tools for better medicines, making America more efficient. People in the military want better AI weapons. Those are all supposed to be tools that work for us, that we control. Right. We don't want the drone swarm that's uncontrollable. We don't want the self driving car that persuades you to vote for your least favorite politician. You want tools, Right? So I'm all for AI tools. What I'm against is this AGI thing that you're supposed to build some sort of digital God that can do it or some sort of just swap and replacement for humans. We don't need that and we don't want that.

[Steve Bannon]

What? And today you go to. Why are you going to Catholic University? I mean, Pope Leo XIV said he took the name Leo XIV because Leo XIII was, was the social justice for workers during the Industrial Revolution. And his big concern is artificial intelligence, which the church has not been, or Christianity overall has not really been at the forefront of this argument. He's saying he's going to put it as the center of his papacy. Is this why you're going over to Catholic University today?

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah, I'm going to Catholic University because I'm really delighted to see some moral leadership from people who are driven by something else than just getting a bit more profit on their, on their San Francisco company. I think we have to ask ourselves not just what we can do, but what we ought to do.

[Steve Bannon]

And that's what you're in. Your panel is going to be at, at 1:30 today and we're going to stream it. Can you hang around? I want to keep you for a part of the next break. Okay. A lot of breaking news. 3:00 clock today. Andy Harris, the House Freedom of Caucus with the speaker of the House, is going to go over, I don't know, probably the Roosevelt Room, maybe the Cabinet Room to meet with President Trump. He's going to walk through why they should close this deal today, have a vote and get on with it. Andy Harris is saying it's going to take another 10 days. So you got the bid and you got the eight Ask. I think President Trump's going to convince some people over there. You don't get called over to the White House. They couldn't call over to the woodshed. Okay, hometitlecom, remember, 90% of your net worth, if you're lucky enough to own a home, 90% of your net worth is tied up in that real asset. The only thing in life that shows that you own it is that little piece of paper called a title. Home title locks at the 1 million dollar triple lock protection 20, 247 coverage, middle of the night. If somebody's messing with your title, get alerted. If all else fails, $1 million restoration with lawyers and others to get your title and get your money back. Hometitleact.com promo code Steve, talk to Natalie Dominguez. Do it today, short break. You've heard me talk about Patriot Mobile for a while now. You probably know that for years they've stood in the gap for every American who believes in faith, family and freedom. So here's the question. Have you switched to Patriot Mobile yet? You'll get exceptional nationwide coverage because unlike most cell phone service providers. Patriot mobile utilizes all three major U.S. networks. Switch today without sacrificing quality or service. They even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. Let me repeat. They can even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. It's like you're carrying two phones in one. They have unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, Internet on the go devices and Internet backup. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. Best of all, switching to Patriot Mobile supports your values. If you believe in our first amendment and second amendment rights, the sanctity of life supporting our veterans and first responders, this is where you belong right now. Go to patriot mobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot. Get a free month of service with promo code Bannon. So if you call in, tell Embannon also switch today. That's patriot mobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. So Max, in the, in the big beautiful bill that they're going to go talk to the President about, one of the things that slid in there is this and I just want to make sure that we've got it up because I know in the Senate Josh Hawley and others going to say this is not going to survive. Just talk to us about what they the Tech Bros have slid in there about the state's ability to control for their citizens artificial intelligence.

[Max Tegmark]

The Tech Bros have slid in this trojan horse which, which basically is a massive power grab to San Francisco saying for example that if Texas passes a law in two years restricting something crazy that an AI company wanted to do, the Tech Bros in San Francisco be like we can do whatever we want because they override the bill.

[Steve Bannon]

Federal law would override the state law.

[Max Tegmark]

Bans the states from passing any laws for 10 years.

[Steve Bannon]

Any laws restricting artificial intelligence.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah, it's complete insanity. And I'm actually very proud of Josh Harley for calling it out as the giant corporate boondoggle that it is. But it's important to remember even if it doesn't make it this time in this bill, it's going to be like many headed hydra that's going to come back. They're going to try to bring it back in other ways again and again. And we just have to in order.

[Steve Bannon]

Of importance of all the issues this nation faces right now, which are manifold a technology that has unlimited opportunity. You're saying right now it's got so much potential downside that we've only got a chance now. Now you're not going to have it a year from now but you've got to now come together and start to reason together about how this is actually going to be used.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah. President Trump is the AI President because it's going to be most likely during his term that it gets decided whether we just build a new what about the or whether we're going to make this into something really great that helps us.

[Steve Bannon]

We're going to have a special at 6 o' clock. We're talking about the Chinese and human organ harvesting, the secret deal with the Catholic Church, all the things of the Chinese Communist Party and why there's such a criminal element to do to profit and monetize human organs and human organ harvesting. The argument from the Tech Bros is that hey, they've had a Sputnik moment with Deep seek. If you don't unchain us they're going to control the world and then the United States is going to be basically submissive to the Chinese Communist Party. Your answer sir.

[Max Tegmark]

There are of course very real geopolitical issues but the Tech Bros are just using that as an excuse to enrich themselves and avoid regulation. They keep saying but China, even if you try to ban non consensual sexual deep fakes and anything it's the truth is that the Chinese Communist Party wants to keep control of China. It's indisputable. So for some San Francisco based tech bro to say oh, China is going to let the Chinese company build something uncontrollable, it's just a lie.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay. We're going to stream you at 1:30 but I want to have you back on hopefully later in the week by Skype. I know you got to travel to to give your assessment of how it went at Catholic University today. Thank you. You're doing God's work. And this is. We're going to make one more time. Where do people go to find out more about the future of life? Futurelife.org and you've got all your information there.

[Max Tegmark]

As best as we can. We can. Yeah. Maybe we should have work even harder to have more stuff there. But it's not a really new site. But educate themselves.

[Steve Bannon]

That's what I'm saying. And social media. You on social media where they go.

[Max Tegmark]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Hashtag tag mark and to get your book.

[Max Tegmark]

Amazon.

[Steve Bannon]

Amazon. Okay, fine. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for coming on. And your escort today he's being escorted by the Joe Allen. So it ought to be interesting. We look forward to seeing it.

[Michael Lindell]

One thing.

[Steve Bannon]

30. Thank you, sir. Michael Lindell, you're going to court, brother. You're going to court. Tell us about it.

[Michael Lindell]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Michael Lindell]

We need your support. Call my operators. There it is. If you go to the website and click on Steve and scroll down, it's all there. Also, everybody we have on the website. When you get there, you can learn all about what's happening with MyPillow and this trial, what it's all about. We've come this far. Everything. Steve. I waited this for four and a half years. This is going to be one of the most important trials.

[Steve Bannon]

Slow down, slow down. This is a bet. The company move. Why didn't you just settle and just go along? Why are you betting your entire company on going to a jury trial? Which, as everybody knows, could go one way or the other, particularly in Colorado. Dude, that's kind of enemy territory. You got great people out there, but it's run by a bunch of maniacs, sir.

[Michael Lindell]

It sure is. But this is. This all ties in with Tina Peters and everything. Everybody, it's all about one thing. I want to secure our elections. I've been fighting four and a half years for this. We've been attacked from every you Name it. It's happened with lawfare. I've been sued. My pillow's been sued. I got the attorney general in Minnesota attacking my Lindell Recovery Network and my foundations. It's all about my voice. They want me to shut up about the elections and I will never stop, ever. And they've tried everything. They've attacked my pillow. Everyone says, well, Mike, look what you've done. Look what's happened to my pillow. You know what? We're still here because of you Warm Room Posse and God's grace and Steve, I would never settle. And I. In fact, the attorneys even said to me, you know, Mike, we could sell if you walked away and you just would never bring up these elections again. Would you do it? I said, no. They could give me trillion dollars and I wouldn't do it. I will never stop till we save this country. Everybody, we. I told our great president just a few weeks ago, I said, sir, I promise you these next four years will not be in vain. We will secure our elections here and be like 132 other countries that have paper ballots hand counted. This is what we need to get. We need to have the best elections in the world, not the worst. And we are going to get there, Steve. And we're under a timeline. We can't let our president's four years be just a blip in history. And all for. And we've got to keep. We've got to win this. We've come this far. It all comes down to next week. I'm heading to Colorado tomorrow. I'm going to be there. It's like three weeks long. But June 2nd, the trial starts and they come after my pillow. Like my pillow and my employees. I'm so. I was so upset when they all got sued. I'm going, what did they do? Just USA employees, everybody. Usa, you know, and it's disgusting, Steve, but I'm. I'm loving it because I'm there to fight.

[Steve Bannon]

We know it. One more time, talk to us about the specials. I know you guys need funding, so where do people go?

[Michael Lindell]

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[Steve Bannon]

No, no, no, no. You're the one. The front line. Hell, you're going to. You're taking. And Mike Lindell's not coming back down. He could have taken a deal. He's not going to take a deal. One more time. Where they go for all the. Where they go. The most powerful promo code in all the business. War room. Where do they go to? Where they go right now?

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[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

[Michael Lindell]

Thank you, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

I have you on every day, twice a day. We'll see you back here tonight. Jane Zirkle, Tina Peters, you wrote a brilliant piece. Tell me about it.

[Jane Zirkel]

Yeah. So Tina Peters, a 69 year old gold star mother who is currently incarcerated at the La Vista Correctional Facility in Colorado. This facility is actually a rehabilitation facility. It has actually really incredible opportunities for inmates. It has a cosmetology program, it has an economic program, it has a honor house unit that essentially transitions prisoners back into society. And these are all great things, especially when they're implemented correctly. But what I examine in this piece is what good is rehabilitation when incarceration in the first place was unjust. And that of course is the case of Tina Peters, who is being held there as a political prisoner. Now, of course, she started at the Mesa County Jail where she noted that she was in fear for her life. She was facing intimidation and threats from staff and other inmates. She was threatened with solitary confinement. She has a history of lung cancer and fibromyalgia. And this 69 year old woman was forced to sleep on the top bunk with no ladder that is not safe for anyone, let alone a woman with her conditions. And she told the guards and they simply really didn't care. And this facility has a well documented history of abuse, including the 2019 lawsuit that was filed by the ACLU. It was filed on behalf of a woman named Michelle Reynolds who was wrongly incarcerated there for 15 days and denied a court appearance, denied the opportunity for a bond hearing. So she was well within her reasoning to be in fear for her life. Ultimately, she was transferred 300 miles away to the Larimer County Jail, which has a reputation for overcrowding and understaffing and is facing a lawsuit of its own regarding the suicide of 43 year old Ryan Harmond, who took his own life after his cries for help were repeatedly ignored by the staff and faculty there. And so Colorado puts on this flight facade of being this progressive, reform, heavy criminal justice system. But in reality it is really the epitome of the mass incarceration epidemic in America.

[Steve Bannon]

Jane, can you hang for a second? I just want to hold you to the break. I got a couple of questions about Tina, which is horrible, horrible, horrible. Short commercial break. John Solomon's also going to be with us to talk about the big beautiful build next, the war room. There's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening their grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot Supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get a free 4, 24, 7 food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Okay, Full stop. You're going to have to insert this. Okay. And right now when you get there, four week emergency food supply, you'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're going to get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It shipped fast and it's shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist Party does. You can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop my patriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.

[Michael Lindell]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

So the President of South Africa is coming. The President's got the president South Africa for a lunch. I'm sure he's going to do a press avail. And this is driven by, you know, President Trump's office at golf are very close to people like Gary Player, Ernie Ells, Retief Goose and I think Retief Goose and Ernie Ells are coming also. So the real American voice cover all of that supposed to take place starting right now up till noon. Then the House Freedom Caucus is going to be over there. Three o' clock, University of Florida getting the national championship. They're going to of course all the gators here and our production staff are all giddy running around. They're going to be there at 4 o' clock. We'll be back at 5. Charlie curse and take over noon. Listen, they're going to be looking for revenue everywhere. They're fighting over now costs and deficits. Tax Network USA, 800-958-1000 if you didn't file, if your filed wasn't complete, if you got a letter from the irs, they've solved a billion dollars worth of tax related issues. Stop worrying and start talking to the people at Tax Network USA, 800-958-1000 or tnusa.com promo code Bannon get a free consultation. Do it today. Also, if you like geopolitics and capital markets and baby, you should because that's driving the modern world Records War Room Jim Rickards we're going to try to get Rickards on here before the end of the week to talk about everything that's going on. One of our contributors, Rickards war room.com you get access to strategic Intellig intelligence which every important chairman and CEO the Corner C Suite reads. You can get it too. Rickardswarroom.com he's also got a special book he throws in Free Money chatgpt about artificial intelligence and currency. Get it today. Jane Zirkel Is Tina Peters a political prisoner? And isn't the purpose of the case to torture her by Jared Polis and the people in Colorado, ma' am, 100%.

[Jane Zirkel]

Tina Peters simply told the truth about election fraud in Colorado and as a result, Colorado state retaliated and arguably a large portion of people incarcerated in Colorado are political prisoners. They have an incarceration rate of 556people per 100,000 that is higher than any democratic country in the world. They have around 70,000 people on prison probation and parole and a large amount of their prison population is a result of those parole and probation technical violations. They have mandatory maximum sentencing which leaves no room for circumstance based conditions for when judges hand down these sentences. They also have habitual offender laws, which is a three strike you're out felony type law that even if your third felony is nonviolent, you will receive a life sentence in prison. And increasingly women are disproportionately affected in Colorado. They are being entrenched in this cycle of abuse and drug abuse and they are just stuck here and they're being increasingly incarcerated for nonviolent offenses.

[Steve Bannon]

Jane Zirkel where do people go on social media to get you?

[Jane Zirkel]

Ma' am, you can find Me Ayne Zirkel on Getter, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. Fantastic work on Tina Peters. Great. Jane Zurb.

[Jane Zirkel]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Maybe put her at a bop. You're going to watch the, we're watching the. The arrival of the South African President. John Solomon. You said you buried into these documents and you've got some ideas and concepts on the big beautiful bill. The President's going to host the Freedom Caucus. I'm sure that's going to be lovely this afternoon at 3:00. What's your advice.

[John Solomon]

Man? I don't know. Listen, spend less and generate more money. Right. I think that's the key. You got to find revenue. I used to remember the old beer commercials. Tastes great. Less filling in Washington. The longer the bill stands in Congress, the more spending goes up and the less savings go down. They got to stop it. And you know, $1.7 trillion, which is where they'll be in this bill, is a good deal. It's a lot of savings, but it doesn't even cover the 2 trillion a year that we've added since COVID Right. So it's really a drop in the bucket. Here is I think, the notion that a lot. Congress is never going to solve this. They don't have the political will, whether Republicans are in power or not, they don't have the political will to rew the sort of cuts. But Marco Rubio can cut the State Department in half in a short period of time. I think the most important thing Donald Trump could come out of today's meeting with is a deal saying, put this language into the bill. Tell me that all congressional appropriations are a ceiling, not a floor, meaning if I can deliver the programs for you at less than the money appropriated, I can give the money back. Now what have you done? Congress has empowered him. You don't have to do the stupid rescission votes which never happen. You don't have to go to court.

[Steve Bannon]

You want to codify. Hang on. You want to codify impoundments? You're going to say, hey, it's a ceiling. That's impoundment. And if Trump doesn't like where the program's going, he can do that. Tell me how we're going to do that. It's a brilliant idea. How are we going to do that?

[John Solomon]

Yeah, you got, and you got. Listen, you have to fulfill the wish of Congress. That's the important thing. So it is an impoundment because that is a different process. If Donald Trump could deliver what Congress asked for in his administration, the agency delivers it and he can do it for less. You just give the money back to the Treasury. That is a big thing. You want to be careful not to step on either branch's individual article powers but by saying you'll fulfill Congress's wish. But if you do it cheaper. We're all CEOs. We're smart guys. The whole administration is full of ROI guys. Right. They can do it. It shifts all of these onerous decisions away from Congress where there's no will to a CEO president that could cut it. I think that's on the table and being discussed right now. Now maybe the conservatives won't like it but the truth of the matter is the conservatives have been crying and bitching and whining and they never cut a thing they can't the system won't let them do.

[Steve Bannon]

The conservatives tapped this along as everybody did. Beryl Howell just wrote a blistering 100 page opinion about President Trump trying to trying to shut down the Institute of Peace. That went right to the heart of this. She said it was unlawful 20 times. Your solution makes it lawful. Is that where we are? Yeah.

[John Solomon]

You can have the Institutes of Peace at a fraction of the cost as long as it meets the objectives of what the Congress said. And then, and then it goes on. So it does it. Listen, Barrel Howe is going to get. How many times Barrel Howe been reversed? She's going to be reversed again. Right. It's not. Not a doubt about her. She's. She likes being reversed. I think so. But yeah it does. It solves these problems and it takes. It puts the chips in a place where there's political will to cut. There's just not the political Congress is too dysfunctional to cut. Cut to cut meaningfully.

[Steve Bannon]

Unbelievable.

[Michael Lindell]

John.

[Steve Bannon]

Where do people go to get all your content? Brother.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. Justinnews.com and I get the lucky. I follow you Every day at 6 o' clock clock here on Real America's Voice and Jay Solomon reports on all of the social media platforms.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you brother. Brilliant idea and good to be with discuss. That means being discussed behind the scenes. This may be a thing pop up. Okay. Charlie Kirk this is going to be action packed at the White House on Capitol Hill all day into the night. Charlie Kirk snacks poso after that Steve Gruber after that Eric Bolling after that. Then the war room baby.

[Michael Lindell]

Wow.

[Steve Bannon]

What a morning. Think we cover the waterfront of us tomorrow. Alex Jones is going to join us tomorrow morning. Alex Jones is going to join us. Nor Ben Lon back from Geneva. We got so much going on Also trying to get General Flynn some discussion about Romania. Trying to track down General Flynn. All of it. Okay, Rebecca here, five. It's gonna be a heck of an afternoon. Stick around to Real America's voice. Charlie Kirk. Two hours of populist nationalism served up hot. Next. See you back here at 5. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, Money GPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos, bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go torickards war room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's Rickards War Room dot com. Do it today.

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